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S2 E34: Another Epic Interview with Our Friend James Arnold Taylor, Voice of Obi-Wan Kenobi · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  Hello there this is Obi Wan the right Obi Wan, the dog Obi Wan
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  and this is most things Kenobi. I have a bad feeling about this.
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  Hi everyone, welcome to another episode of Most Things Kenobi, a
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  podcast about Obi Wan Kenobi and all things Star Wars.
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  I'm your host, Lauren. And I'm your host, Leanne.
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  Hello there and I'm Obi Wan Kenobi or James Arnold Taylor,
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  the 3rd and 4th hosts. You've got James.
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  And you've got Obi Wan. Obi Wan should be third though.
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  He shouldn't be fourth. He shouldn't go after James.
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  No, I agree. Obi Wan.
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  You're right. You should get.
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  Thank you very much, James. That's very kind.
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  We'll just step aside You 2 just take.
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  Yeah, you 2 take as much time as you need.
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  Welcome back. It's great to be back.
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  It's been far too long. I think it's been quite a quite
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  a while now. The last time though, I think I
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  was more so on we. We did a chat with all of your
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  patrons and I came on that that was probably the last time we
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  were all together together but long we've seen each other at
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  cons, right? A con.
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  No, I was trying to like see if you'd be anywhere in my
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  peripheral area. And there there wasn't really up
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  here in the chilly northern states, up in the Midwest.
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  Well. I'll be in.
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  I'll be in Columbus, OH in a week.
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  Really. But I'll be in San Francisco in
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  a couple days. Yeah.
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  Oh. Nice.
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  I love San Francisco. Very nice.
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  I've not been in a very long time now.
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  I used to live up in that area when I was a kid, but I've not
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  been. And it's a fan Expo.
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  It's a big show. And Matt, the chosen one will be
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  there. Ashley Padme, Kat Tabor will be
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  there. Have you had Catherine Taber on
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  your show? No, no, you're the only one
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  we've had. And we had Beth Revis, who is a
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  writer. But yeah.
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  Yeah OK, well I'm gonna see cause cat would be great.
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  Yeah, we would love. Vouch for us please.
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  I mean, I will put in a few good words.
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  I will. Done, done and done.
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  So yeah. So we will all be together and
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  then Nika Ventris will be. There oh.
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  Fantastic. Oh my gosh.
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  I love her, she's so talented, Oh my God.
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  A great lineup. I gotta get to one of these
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  soon. Have you ever been to 1?
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  I, I've been to to celebration and that's when I was scheduled
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  to meet all of you guys with Lauren.
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  And then it was the weird double booking.
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  You live too far away, Leanne. You're out and.
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  It's just me and nature up here in the mountains.
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  So we did and I know we're just like jumping in.
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  I hope that's OK. But so we did 20 cons this year.
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  This will be the 20. Last year will be, I think, 20.
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  And yeah, so there's a lot I don't know.
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  I don't think I'm going to be doing as many next year.
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  There are few already in the books and we'll announce them,
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  but I can't say anything yet. Yeah, Yeah, it must be honestly,
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  it must be so exhausting to because it's not just the
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  meeting people and answering the same question 6,000,000 times,
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  but you're traveling and that's very exhausting on the body to
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  travel and. It is, yeah.
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  It's a lot. I've always been curious about
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  that. How do you keep your energy up?
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  I, you know, and I don't drink coffee.
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  I'm not a caffeine person, so I. Even more, I need to know your
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  secrets. No, I have.
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  So here's the whole thing. So we leave on Thanksgiving.
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  So I don't know if that gives away too much information for
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  everybody else to when you guys are recording and such, but
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  we're a few days away from Thanksgiving right now and we
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  will be flying out on Thanksgiving, my wife and I.
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  And it's because it's the least crowded day actually, too.
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  And my daughter is now, you know, a big shot, lives on her
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  own, has her own place and has a job full time.
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  So she's working on the holiday. So she's like, well, I won't be
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  able to come over anyways. And so we said, well, then we're
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  going to go to a Comic Con and no.
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  And so, so we're going to fly out.
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  And then the show starts on Friday and then Friday,
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  Saturday, Sunday, and then we fly home Monday.
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  And then we stay home. Well, we get home Monday, and
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  then we're home Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
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  And then Friday we fly to Columbus and we do Friday,
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  Saturday, Sunday, fly home Sunday for that one.
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  So amazing. So do you just not speak out
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  loud for a couple days after? I had sometimes, yeah.
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  And if there's a job in between where I have to have a certain
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  voice or whatever, it's, it's tricky.
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  Like sometimes I do Justin Timberlake's doubling for things
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  for like trolls for Branch. Oh cool.
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  Did you know that? Yeah.
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  I think I yeah, I knew that. Way more up on stuff than I am,
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  but that's really cool, I didn't know that.
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  So Justin Timberlake, everybody's voice is just much
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  cooler than mine, but it's right about there.
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  It's pretty similar. And one time after a big thing
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  of shows, it seemed like every time after I did the show, I had
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  to do his voice. And I was like, this is really
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  hard because then you end up sounding like this after a show.
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  Is there any downtime? Do do you really have to kind of
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  rest the voice? Yeah, I do.
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  And my wife and I both know a little bit of sign language and
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  we've forgive me if I'm repeating myself on this, but so
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  when I rest my voice, we can communicate at least with sign
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  language. Very nice.
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  Kind of amazing, actually. Brilliant.
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  It's fun, it's a great language, It's actually a beautiful
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  language. And we had, years ago, we had
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  two neighbors that were deaf. And so we learned as much as we
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  could so we could all communicate.
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  That's amazing, yeah. But it the whole thing.
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  So what I do is OK, so today is Monday, I leave Thursday.
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  So Wednesday is to answer your question, I'll go in, I'll go to
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  my doctor's office and they give me an IV drip of vitamins and
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  glutathione and you know, all the good stuff there.
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  And I do that for like, you know, 1/2 hour it takes.
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  And they they say I have very good veins.
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  Oh, that's good. That's actually a good thing.
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  Normally takes people like 45 minutes, takes me 1/2 an hour
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  so. Oh well.
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  Yeah, just remember that now and and then.
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  So I'll do that and then I will go to the physical therapist.
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  I go tomorrow and they will do what they call dry needling.
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  Have you ever heard of dry needling?
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  Oh yeah, absolutely. I have had it.
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  Have you had it? I had it last year.
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  Oh. Boy, it's a special experience.
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  Yeah, I have it done in my neck and in my up near my ears.
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  Oh wow. When I fly, I have bad ears and
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  so when I fly they just what I have is I have very thin
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  eardrums. I was told this as a kid.
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  So sometimes they won't pop when I'm flying.
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  You know when you go to kind of make them pop, they won't.
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  So if I do the dry needling it helps.
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  Amazing. Wow, how interesting.
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  See, these are the behind the scenes things you don't get.
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  It, I mean, it's, yeah, it's fascinating though.
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  It. Is because we don't get a look
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  into this. Right.
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  It just seems like instead I show up and I'm like, hello,
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  that's it, you know? But no, there's all this.
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  There's a lot of needles involved, I guess, you know?
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  So when Reiko Hardeen happened, how many needles were needed to
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  go completely bald and hairless? That no, that was the best ever.
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  That was a that's a total. That's a different dry needle
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  they. Haven't done a action figure of
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  him though, have they? If they haven't, they should,
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  because they. Should have right?
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  I would like a pop. I mean I remember burning the
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  hair off of my barbies as a child.
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  Does that count as removing the? Hair, yeah.
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  We would do so back in my day when I was a kid, GI Joe were
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  actually like the size Barbie and they had this Peach fuzz
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  hair and we would shave it off of them, too.
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  It's just like, yeah. It never grows back.
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  That it doesn't. But I had I had a toy called the
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  Fuzzy Pumper Barbershop, and it was a play DoH thing.
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  And you filled the little people with play DoH and you sat them
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  on the little Barber chair, and then you cranked the thing, and
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  then hair grew out and it was cool.
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  So this is the fuzzy say that again.
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  Fuzzy Pumper barbershop. This is my new username the.
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  Fuzzy pumper barbershop. I had that and I had the Snoopy
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  snow cone machine and that was the greatest thing ever.
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  I love snow cones. You put ice in it.
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  It looked like Snoopy's doghouse.
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  Yeah. And there was a little center
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  where the where the entry was. There was actually instead this
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  little thing where you put ice cubes in the top and you push
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  down and then you crank. Both of them were crank.
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  I liked a lot of cranking toys. The cranking toy.
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  Yeah, and. Then you made a snow cone and
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  then you set the cup there and you cut all the ice.
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  And then you you put in the, you know, the flavors and.
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  Everything. What was your favorite flavor?
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  Cherry Cherry can't go over on red's not my color.
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  No, they didn't. Back then they didn't have a
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  blue. Disagree.
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  Disagree. OK, hard disagree.
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  Yes, because that's why that's what started this.
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  That's why I'm here. I think I know where you're
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  going. I know what started all this.
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  We're so predictable. We are very partial to the non
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  traditional Obi Wan outfits. Well, he had the Hawaiian print
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  shirt for vacation. That was, yeah, that was great.
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  One of our the artists who does all of our artwork, she actually
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  did a version of that art and it's fantastic.
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  And we've all talked about getting those Hawaiian shirts
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  made so that we can wear them at like celebration or.
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  To celebration together, yeah. That's great.
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  OK. You won't be able to miss us.
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  If you do though, I got to get one too, and then we'll all be
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  together. That would.
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  Be fun from most things. Can I?
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  In size small. Very good.
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  People always so everybody sends me T-shirts and stuff and they
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  always give me medium and I think they're trying to be
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  polite and I'm like, no, I'm tiny.
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  Like I'm like Seth Green and I we see eye to eye, you know,
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  it's like, and so people always go, I got you a medium.
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  I'm like, well, that's just going to look like.
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  A giant potato sack. Flag.
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  Yeah, it's like a safe bet, run-of-the-mill right down the
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  middle. But you know, it's just hard to
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  know other people's sizes. Unless you go to the boys
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  department at like Macy's or something, then you can get me a
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  large and then I feel pretty good about myself.
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  Just like RIP right through. It I'm secretly over here just
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  keeping keeping all these notes so that when we when you do get
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  the Hawaiian shirt and it's no joke, it's it's the correct
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  size. But so so dark Obi Wan is where
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  I thought we were going though too with the.
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  Red. Yeah, that's where we're going.
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  So we got to know. You finally voice.
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  Finally did it. And you know what, I can finally
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  talk about it. That was the other thing is, is,
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  you know, So what happens with all of these any, any Star Wars
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  stuff, generally, you know, it's way in advance that especially
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  the animated stuff we record and then it takes at least six
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  months. But it was always well over a
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  year that I think I had first recorded.
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  And then they had me back in and I did a couple more things
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  little, you know, you know, for fights or what have you.
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  I think. And I think they changed one of
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  the lines or two. There was a couple lines that
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  changed and so now, but the scene is like, I mean, it's it's
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  you blink and it's that's. What we said, yeah, that's what
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  we said. We were bummed out.
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  Someone sent us the whole, well, we thought it was just a teaser
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  and it turned out to be the entire sequence.
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  And I was like, wait, I thought, he comes back.
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  More honestly, that scene ended and I said OK, we'll we'll get
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  it back because I honestly thought that mall, like Happy
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  Mall and Evil Obi Wan would meet and it would be like a clash of
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  the opposite world meets. And that didn't happen.
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  And that was where I was very disappointed because I think
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  Dark Obi Wan and Happy Mall is something we'll never see again.
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  I mean, they've got to see, well, I will make sure that they
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  listen to this then, right? Because they got to hear that
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  it's so true. Because I was assuming when I
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  read it that I was going to come back later.
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  I thought, oh, this is just one scene.
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  Sometimes they'll do that. They'll go, we're just going to
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  have you do 1 scene for now and we haven't finished writing.
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  And I'm like, OK, well he's got to come back because this is
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  amazing. And then he didn't.
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  And then when I had the second session with them, it was just
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  finessing some of the lines. I'm like, but where isn't there
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  more? So I was very sad.
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  Or was I? It's.
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  Hard to. It was so good though and I just
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  wanted more and we always want more.
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  That's our complaint, yeah. The perfect sass, yes.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  It's our one little opportunity because of course we agree with
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  you that there's really no reasonable way that everyone
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  would ever really turn to the dark side.
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  So it would have to be some sort of what if for a like a Lego
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  movie and. Some safe ground.
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  You know, Matt Lanter and I have been trying to get them to do a
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  what if for a long time because we always get asked this
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  question when we go to the cons and we do our panels and
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  everybody says what would you guys like?
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  And we say a what if. And, you know, Matt usually is
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  like, you know, what if Padme and Anakin got married and was
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  like, like happily married and and stayed and all of that.
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  And Obi Wan was, you know, like the annoying neighbor, you know,
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  on the other side of the fence and.
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  But but but. But then also like the real way
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  of doing it too. Would be fascinating too, to
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  dive deep into the actual stuff of what if he could have saved
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  him, you know? What if when the high ground
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  came, he didn't try it? You know, what if all those
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  different things, but Matt always likes to say that he
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  goes, oh, but what if? What if the high ground didn't
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  work? That's the one I go.
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  Have you guys ever answered that question?
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  You know, The thing is, is Matt, I think I've, I know I've told
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  you this before, he lives down the street from me, but he lives
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  up on a hill and he has the high ground.
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  So that's always his answer. He's always like, I do have the
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  high ground and I'm like, no, Obi Wan is not happening.
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  But in Canon, Obi Wan did beat Darth Vader a couple of times
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  every time. Many times at this point.
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  So how was that for all of you then watching Kenobi?
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  I know you're you're watching through it.
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  I don't. Know we've all seen it, yeah.
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  OK. So it's no big deal that for me,
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  when I first saw that, though, I thought that I was a little
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  worried that that's going to take away from, you know, A New
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  Hope and that meeting. And, you know, it's, it's, it's
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  tricky because it's the fight you want to see, but at the same
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  time it's it's weird. Then, you know, when they say we
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  meet again and you know, all that.
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  So it's tying all those pieces together.
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  How do you all fare with that? Do you enjoy it?
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  Do you like it? Do you think it's great?
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  You know, what happened again, if they do, I'm guessing they're
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  going to do another season. Did they already say they're
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  doing? They keep denying it so far.
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  I know nothing. I mean, I, you know.
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  I know, put it on the books. He knows nothing.
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  I feel like with we kind of talked about this recently when
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  we were discussing the Ben Solo movie that got kind of squashed,
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  that Star Wars recontextualizes itself every time they release
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  something new. And I just kind of take
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  everything. It's compartmentalized now.
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  So yeah, it recontextualizes A New Hope so much that I kind of
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  have to just put a wall up there and then take A New Hope as its
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  own thing. Same thing with like Andorra and
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  Rogue One. It's just totally changed a lot
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  of how I saw that movie. And it's not necessarily always
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  a bad thing, but it's getting hard to keep track of it and.
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  Yeah. And I can't remember if I shared
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  with you all before when I, you know, because I did voices in
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  the in those in Rogue. One.
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  Yeah, you did. When?
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  We did that and when we saw that, that, you know, end moment
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  with Darth Vader and, and all that, and I thought that at the
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  time, I thought now I can't wait to see them together and how
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  that plays out. And it is really interesting,
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  isn't it, what it does? Yeah, it's long form.
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  When we had someone ask us recently what our thoughts were
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  on when Obi Wan in A New Hope, when he says to Vader, if you
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  strike me down, I'll become more powerful than you can imagine.
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  What did that mean? When that movie first came out,
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  they had no plans for a second movie at the time.
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  They hoped, but it wasn't finalized yet.
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  And. Yeah.
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  It's a good question there. Was no Force ghost at that
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  moment either. You know, we kind of tossed this
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  around. We didn't know if you take it
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  into consideration that there was no second and third movie in
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  a trilogy and it was its own entity, kind of a throwaway
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  line. But then if you put in the Force
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  ghost influence and that sort of thing, it kind of ropes it into
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  a little bit better. There's a lot of wiggle room in
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  there, yeah. It, it, it is wild.
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  Well, it's just, it's also like now when you watch it and we've,
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  I think we've talked about this before though, but when he's in
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  the desert with Luke and you know, and he says, no, that's
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  the name. I've not heard a long time.
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  And and you go he but Alec Guinness did so much, he gave us
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  so much that I've seen people's videos that they've made where
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  it's like these flashbacks just off of those looks and all the
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  stuff. So, yeah, I love the one.
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  Actually. It was done years ago I think
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  like a Japanese animator did it or not a a film company where
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  they did the scene the fight scene with Vader and.
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  Oh yeah. Yes.
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  It's been like if it was modern and the battle is so much bigger
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  and I really dig that. I think it's cool.
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  And then like when he does, because that's the other thing
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  is, you know, he Obi Wan goes away right as the Saber goes
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  through goes away. So how what did he know that?
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  You know, I mean, I guess when Yoda disappears, it was to infer
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  that it was the same thing. Yeah, it's like an instantaneous
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  joining of the force. As a little kid, I just was like
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  where he just disappeared into a pile of robes.
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  I was so confused as a little kid.
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  And it is funny, if you think about it, that Vader like steps.
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  Oh yeah, yeah, no, he's just making sure he's not.
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  Writing. Nothing left.
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  OK, we're good. He's he's.
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  This tall. Is there a trap door?
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  I saw a meme the other day about the scene with Yoda where he
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  dies, where as a parent you understand this scene with Yoda
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  when your child asks you so many questions you just decide to die
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  rather than answer all the questions.
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  I'm too tired for this. That's it.
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  Yeah. I have to say, with the Obi Wan
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  in the Kenobi series, the final fight and then you Fast forward
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  to like A New Hope. I think I have.
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  I was OK with it. I have more of a problem since
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  we were again talking about the changes that come with Star Wars
• 19:22
  sometimes. I have more of a problem with
• 19:25
  the undermining of Darth Vader's sacrifice when he threw
• 19:28
  Palpatine down the shaft. And then in the sequel trilogy,
• 19:32
  Palpatine returns, as we all know.
• 19:34
  And so mine's on the other side of that because I want, I don't
• 19:38
  want Palpatine to return because Vader, Anakin returned in that
• 19:42
  moment. And it's like.
• 19:44
  That's I, I agree. I mean, you know, look, if I'm,
• 19:48
  if I'm going to be really brutally honest, I, I was
• 19:50
  brutally honest with the movies when they came out and I was in
• 19:52
  all of them. You know, I did voices in all of
• 19:54
  them. But like with Force Awakens and
• 19:55
  stuff, I felt like I didn't like Han Solo getting killed.
• 19:58
  I don't care what Harrison Ford wants, don't kill Han Solo.
• 20:01
  Han Solo and. And don't bring the Emperor back
• 20:03
  like that. If you want to get anecdotes to
• 20:05
  come back, fine, but don't have it be the emperor like that it
• 20:08
  because I agree. I think it does take away.
• 20:11
  Well, return to the Jedi is is a magical ending.
• 20:13
  And you know, I was a little kid when it came out and that was
• 20:16
  the happily ever after. And then we cut forward and you
• 20:18
  go, oh, so none of it mattered. It's like, I don't know why.
• 20:21
  Why? That part is hard.
• 20:23
  Otherwise it's just two geriatrics having a fight in a
• 20:26
  hallway in A New Hope. You know what I mean?
• 20:28
  But The thing is, it's fine. They're slower.
• 20:31
  Yeah, exactly. It's.
• 20:33
  We've all been there, my shoulder.
• 20:38
  My back I mean. I feel that now, but how cool is
• 20:43
  it when Obi Wan in A New Hope looks over and he sees Leia and
• 20:47
  Luke and now that we have little Leia in the Kenobi series, he
• 20:51
  sees them both and he's like, OK, my job here is done.
• 20:54
  And then that moment happens. But he gives that little, that
• 20:57
  little smile, that just that little Obi Wan smirk that he
• 21:00
  knows. Oh, it's such a it's, it's
• 21:02
  magic. It's so great, like now he sees
• 21:04
  them together. I've never thought of that,
• 21:08
  Really. You made Obi Wan Kenobi think of
• 21:10
  something. How?
• 21:11
  Me. Beautiful.
• 21:13
  It's beautiful. You're so right.
• 21:15
  It's fantastic. And now that we have little Leia
• 21:20
  and some back story and the beautiful moments they had
• 21:22
  together when he tells them about her mother and her father
• 21:26
  and Oh my God. Yeah, because we were thinking
• 21:29
  he's just looking at Luke, really.
• 21:30
  No, but now, now we know. Well, now I've kind of hijacked
• 21:34
  everything as I do, but is there anything you want to ask me
• 21:37
  specifically before you know, so I don't go Oh, I didn't get to
• 21:40
  ask that. Is there anything we.
• 21:41
  Have a document. We'll always have, yeah, yeah,
• 21:43
  we have. But we'll always have questions
• 21:45
  afterwards. Darn it.
• 21:46
  We got to ask James next time. I love this question.
• 21:51
  Lauren comes up with most of this, but I I read through these
• 21:55
  and this is the one that really grabbed my attention that I'd
• 21:57
  love to know from you. Since I already mentioned like
• 21:59
  happy Mall and Dark Obi Wan, have you noticed when Obi Wan
• 22:06
  duels with mall and we've talked about this a lot of times on
• 22:09
  different episodes of the show that Obi Wan kind of loses it a
• 22:12
  little bit. He gets sloppy, he kind of gets.
• 22:17
  Oh yeah, I saw a clip of that where you were talking about.
• 22:20
  Did you so anyway? Yeah, we were saying that his
• 22:23
  only trait as a Sith is that he becomes a sloppy figure.
• 22:27
  Yeah. That's not what would happen.
• 22:30
  But you stop that right now, getting very frustrated.
• 22:35
  Wow, that's the worst we get. Here.
• 22:37
  We have Anakin over here who's just like hot mess express, and
• 22:41
  Obi Wan kind of gets a little sloppy and loses it, growls.
• 22:45
  Yeah. Yeah, that's about it.
• 22:47
  But in your opinion, James, if you could sum it up, when you're
• 22:51
  performing that, is there like a mindset that you go into that is
• 22:55
  Obi Wan's at the time? Could you describe that?
• 22:57
  Like what do you think Obi Wan's going through emotionally when
• 23:01
  he's dealing with Moll? That's a great question.
• 23:03
  It really is because, you know, the other thing is, is I know
• 23:06
  that so many people would say, oh, it's just, it's just an
• 23:09
  animated series. So you're just voice actors.
• 23:11
  You're probably not kind of part of that whole thing.
• 23:14
  But so much of it does come from that.
• 23:16
  For one, as I've said before, you know, they always had
• 23:18
  cameras on us. And you do as an actor, you just
• 23:21
  go there. And I really very much so.
• 23:25
  And so when you would hear those little grunts and groans, it
• 23:27
  would be, you know, I'm reading the stage direction of what's
• 23:30
  happening in the battle. And, you know, and Dave Filoni
• 23:33
  might say, you know, OK, so now he's he's really getting him.
• 23:37
  He's getting the best of him. And he's kind of frustrated, you
• 23:39
  know, and it's he'll be like, you know, and you do that.
• 23:45
  And so I would be making these expressions.
• 23:48
  And I kind of wonder sometimes it's like they saw it in me and
• 23:52
  then they put it out there on Obi Wan.
• 23:54
  And I think it made sense too, because it's the one place there
• 23:58
  is deeper, darker passion, anger, whatever inside him than
• 24:04
  anyone else. Right then, all because bygone
• 24:07
  and you know, Satine later, but you know, it's, it's a deep
• 24:12
  rooted thing. So I would go there at very
• 24:14
  much. So when we would record those
• 24:16
  things. And so then it would come up.
• 24:18
  I, I think most of the time they would take the sounds that we
• 24:21
  did when we so the way it work is we would record, then they
• 24:24
  animate to what we've done. And then sometimes they would
• 24:28
  come back with ADR, automatic dialogue replacement where
• 24:32
  you're watching it and then reacting.
• 24:35
  So like if I was watching the scene, I might be, you know,
• 24:41
  like that. But I think most of the ones
• 24:44
  with Maul like that, I think it was probably taken from Sam and
• 24:47
  I just, you know, him doing his thing.
• 24:52
  And so it was in the moment. So yeah, I mean, absolutely,
• 24:57
  you're right. Sam is so good as mall, right?
• 25:00
  Is he? Oh, he's so bad.
• 25:02
  You. Don't know if this is fair for
• 25:05
  me to ask. Is he a little intimidating when
• 25:07
  he's doing mall do you feel? I don't know.
• 25:10
  I would be, but I'm not a voice actor actress.
• 25:14
  You know, where it was the most was when it was him and Clancy
• 25:17
  together, Clancy Brown as Savagio Press.
• 25:21
  The two of them would be, Dave would put them both together,
• 25:25
  which is is unique because usually like Matt and I,
• 25:29
  sometimes we would be together too.
• 25:30
  But usually the people that have the most lines together, they
• 25:33
  separate in the room because they don't want bleed on the
• 25:36
  microphone. But I think he felt it was
• 25:38
  better, you know, I mean, they had control of it enough and
• 25:41
  they felt that they always got a better reaction when Matt and I
• 25:43
  were next to each other. And then it was the same with
• 25:46
  Sam and Clancy. And I do remember at times we'd
• 25:49
  be like, oh, that's the dark side of the room over there.
• 25:53
  Don't go over there. You just glance up and see it
• 25:57
  getting too. Real over this you.
• 26:01
  Know like you're glad you're wearing headphones because when
• 26:05
  he is doing that stuff, if you weren't your ears would like
• 26:08
  blah because he. Has because.
• 26:12
  The headphones at least kind of protect your ears a little from
• 26:14
  it because you can control your volume.
• 26:16
  And but, yeah, I remember there were times where he, you know, I
• 26:19
  mean, he's working up a sweat doing that, you know?
• 26:23
  Yeah. You know, I mean, it's, it's
• 26:25
  fantastic to watch, but it is intense for sure.
• 26:29
  Yeah. We're really, really holding out
• 26:31
  hope that you'll be in the mall show.
• 26:34
  I know you probably can't say anything if you are, but we
• 26:37
  heard, I heard today somebody sent me a video of Sam saying
• 26:42
  that he has unfinished business with someone specific.
• 26:45
  And I was like. We all know who it has to be.
• 26:50
  I, I know nothing about the show.
• 26:53
  All I know is, you know, Sam and I are at some comic cons
• 26:57
  together and he says they're having fun.
• 26:59
  That's great. That's good.
• 27:00
  All right. It would be wonderful.
• 27:02
  I think the dynamic between Yeah Mall and Obi Wan is fascinating
• 27:08
  on so many levels. Yeah, I agree.
• 27:11
  I totally agree. Really deep seated stuff there,
• 27:14
  especially on mall's end. Well, I remember so much when we
• 27:17
  were in Season 4. Did he return in Season 4?
• 27:23
  I think it's. 4. He came back in season 4 and
• 27:26
  it's you know, and it can't be when when he says it can't be,
• 27:29
  you know, those moments. I remember all that going like,
• 27:32
  wow, this is this is going to be really something for the ages.
• 27:36
  This is, you know, all those little moments throughout those
• 27:39
  next few seasons. But the best, you know,
• 27:42
  everybody you know, comes to the table at a Comic Con and they
• 27:44
  say what's your favorite, you know, episode and or when we do
• 27:47
  the panels. And I I'd still say, you know,
• 27:50
  the lawless with Sam and Anna. And it was awfully mean.
• 27:55
  I've shared that before, but because I did not know what was
• 27:58
  going to happen. But yeah, yeah, I did not.
• 28:02
  We got the script right then. So you know.
• 28:04
  I know in the season 2 when they introduced the Duchess I'm like
• 28:08
  well she's not in any of the others.
• 28:09
  We knew what was coming eventually if she's not in
• 28:12
  later. Although everybody did that with
• 28:16
  Ahsoka, right? So.
• 28:18
  It's true, yeah. And apparently, you know you can
• 28:21
  die and come back, so let's. Do that.
• 28:25
  Yeah, yeah. Everyone but Qui Gon can get
• 28:28
  stabbed. Everyone but qui gon.
• 28:29
  I'm so this is my platform, this is my, this is my.
• 28:33
  Qui gon, qui gon and cetine. She didn't come back.
• 28:37
  One of the big complaints we have is that they don't
• 28:39
  reference the team in like the Kenobi series in particular,
• 28:43
  which is. I was actually really surprised
• 28:45
  by that. Really surprised.
• 28:47
  But they didn't reference Asoka either.
• 28:49
  Yeah, either one. No, I, I was very surprised by
• 28:53
  that. And I thought, gosh, because I
• 28:55
  thought for certain they would. You know, you get Cate Blanchett
• 28:57
  and there you go. You're done.
• 28:59
  They were easy. And and that was because that
• 29:02
  was always it, you know, I'm doing Ewan McGregor's voice in
• 29:05
  Anna always said she was just, she was just thinking of Kate
• 29:08
  Blanchett in her head, you know? Fabulous.
• 29:11
  And that one way of doing, you know, and it's just, yeah.
• 29:15
  So I'm surprised. So I don't know if that, you
• 29:18
  know, it's, it's curious to see what they will do with it.
• 29:21
  I I would love to see more of it.
• 29:22
  I'm a I'm a fan like anybody else.
• 29:24
  I guess so. Yeah, Speaking of Satine, have
• 29:27
  you noticed that Corky looks just like you?
• 29:31
  I don't know what you're talking about, you can try it.
• 29:37
  It is. It is probably one of the top
• 29:40
  questions I get at comic cons. I bet, yeah.
• 29:44
  And you know, I mean I. You can't answer, I just.
• 29:48
  I can't because they, you know, and they'll they Dave would
• 29:50
  never give me his his real opinion of it, I'm sure, because
• 29:53
  then he knows. Well, see, I'm like Superman.
• 29:55
  I can't tell a lie. So it's really like, so people
• 29:59
  will go like they'll come up to me.
• 30:01
  And if it's, you know, Ratchet and Clank, which is a video game
• 30:04
  series, I do, I play Ratchet or it's Star Wars or whatever.
• 30:07
  And and they'll say, you know, are you doing this?
• 30:09
  And I'll go no. And they'll say, OK.
• 30:12
  And I say, now if I say no, you have to know I'm like Superman,
• 30:15
  I can't tell a lie. So if I say no, I mean no.
• 30:18
  But if you ask me something and I go, Oh yeah, that's, I mean,
• 30:22
  yeah, then then you know that I'm trying to be Superman.
• 30:29
  But maybe I'm Clark Ken. OK, so now we know how to decode
• 30:34
  all of your answers. That's right.
• 30:36
  That's right. Where's your code book?
• 30:39
  Although, although I will say no, as far as I know, I'm I'm,
• 30:42
  I've not been part of the mall series, no.
• 30:46
  OK, well, there's still time maybe.
• 30:48
  Yes, there is, right? We've one of our most popular
• 30:52
  episodes is the is Corky A Kenobi, and we've recorded that
• 30:59
  that was one of our first episodes and it's still one of
• 31:01
  our like a top believe. That people are always wondering
• 31:04
  what what people think. They want it to be true.
• 31:07
  They want it to be true so badly.
• 31:10
  I think the roughest part is, is let's let's just say it's true
• 31:14
  for a moment, OK? Then, you know, Obi Wan's still
• 31:18
  around, but Satine isn't, right. So it's not like you could have
• 31:22
  this wonderful kind of, you know, Thanksgiving, family
• 31:25
  gathering later or anything, you know, although it would be
• 31:30
  interesting if he visited Tatooine or something, right?
• 31:33
  See, I can play like any other fan.
• 31:35
  Yeah. It's just like these these
• 31:38
  things would be really interesting, you know, within
• 31:39
  the timelines and stuff. We do these head cannons, we
• 31:43
  have them all the time. We we discuss these all the
• 31:45
  time. Do you have a favorite head
• 31:48
  cannon by chance for Obi Wan? I just really still still want
• 31:53
  them to bring Anna and I back and do the young Obi and Sateen
• 31:59
  story. Yes.
• 32:01
  I just think you just do it like a three-part animated
• 32:04
  miniseries, right? We've talked about this before,
• 32:07
  but it's yeah. So that yeah, I think last time
• 32:10
  I said six part. We can hire a plane to fly a
• 32:14
  banner over Disney. There you go.
• 32:18
  We get a petition going and we get I don't know how many.
• 32:22
  And then at every Comic Con, I go when people go, can I get
• 32:24
  your autograph and go? Yes, but I need yours first.
• 32:27
  Sign my petition. Oh, they would.
• 32:30
  They would be so angry at me, you know?
• 32:32
  Yeah. It's like I get the phone calls,
• 32:34
  you know, Then hold for Mr. Filoni.
• 32:36
  You know, it's like Dame stop it, Stop it.
• 32:40
  You can't do that. I.
• 32:43
  Want to know what a phone call with Dave Filoni is like?
• 32:47
  Yeah, I've gotten a phone call a few times, Yeah.
• 32:49
  Because he's he's like my kind of my hero.
• 32:51
  He's like a hometown hero for me.
• 32:53
  We're from the same area. We like the same hockey team.
• 32:57
  Oh, is that right? Oh, we we go way back.
• 33:00
  Are you a hockey fan? Born and raised a Penguins
• 33:04
  Pittsburgh Penguins fan grew up wow near the town of Pittsburgh.
• 33:07
  No, I was in Pittsburgh this year.
• 33:09
  How did you like it? It was good I was there last
• 33:12
  year too. Did did you have a good time
• 33:14
  there? Did you go to a hockey?
• 33:16
  No. OK, So when I go to Comic Cons,
• 33:20
  I get on the plane and then I fly to the airport and then they
• 33:24
  take me in a little car to the hotel and they take me in a
• 33:28
  little bigger car because then it's me and Ashley and Matt to
• 33:31
  the Convention Center. And then the car brings us back
• 33:33
  to the hotel and then we stay there and then we go back and
• 33:38
  then forth and back and forth for three days.
• 33:39
  And then they take us back to the hotel or the airport and
• 33:42
  then we're gone and we never get to see anything.
• 33:46
  That's a shame. It is although my wife and I
• 33:49
  walked around. You guys make really fun videos
• 33:51
  though. Behind Yeah, you're the videos
• 33:53
  of all y'all together. Fantastic.
• 33:56
  It's the best. Ashley always goes, OK, what
• 33:58
  should we do this time? You know, like what are we going
• 34:01
  to do, guys? We got to top this, OK?
• 34:03
  And then she'll get and I go, oh, oh, oh, OK.
• 34:06
  And then, you know, we have to go along with whatever, Ashley.
• 34:09
  You're good sports. I think it's great.
• 34:11
  I think it's great. I love seeing them.
• 34:13
  I actually like to come up with like I'm a, I'm a bit of a goof.
• 34:16
  I like coming up with ideas too. And so and Matt, Matt is one of
• 34:20
  the funniest people you ever meet.
• 34:21
  It's just like my wife. My wife is like an introvert, so
• 34:24
  quiet. But when she drops a comedy
• 34:26
  bomb, it's like. It's cold.
• 34:28
  I can't wait to meet her at a con.
• 34:30
  Honestly I feel so left out. Y'all have all met and stuff and
• 34:34
  I'm just up here in the mountains being in nature and
• 34:37
  not doing anything. That sounds actually lovely to
• 34:40
  me. Now, did you know that Matt
• 34:42
  Lanter was on Weakest Link? Did you see that?
• 34:44
  No, I didn't see. I don't.
• 34:47
  If you have Hulu you can go to weakest Link the the celebrity
• 34:50
  version. You did a celebrity version of
• 34:53
  weakest link this last season and look for teen idols or
• 34:57
  whatever and they did one with all the from 90210 and Friday
• 35:00
  Night Lights and all that. Matt Lanter was on there.
• 35:03
  I'm going to have to go see it. I have Hulu, I can watch it
• 35:07
  tonight. Yeah, I was watching it the
• 35:09
  other night and texting him and sending him pictures of, you
• 35:13
  know, his responses and things. And I'll, I'll give this one
• 35:16
  away. His very first answer he gets
• 35:19
  wrong and and he does. And you go like, how could I
• 35:24
  won't say what it is, but I go like how could he have gotten
• 35:26
  that wrong? And my wife, no, my wife goes, I
• 35:29
  bet he can't see it. He can only hear her because he
• 35:33
  missed a letter like. They asked what does.
• 35:37
  You know these? What do these initials stand
• 35:39
  for? Oh, I see.
• 35:41
  We're a sports initials and I'm like, Matt's a sports guy.
• 35:44
  There's no reason he should have got that wrong.
• 35:47
  And it was because so Jane Lynch, Janie, I've known Jane
• 35:51
  for years. She's wonderful.
• 35:52
  She's the host of it now. She's like 15 feet away from
• 35:56
  him. And he's, you know, in his thing
• 35:59
  at his little station and he's doing a stand that far away and
• 36:03
  they don't have it. Like the audience sees the
• 36:05
  question up on screens, but the people there don't see them.
• 36:09
  So he can't read the, you know, he's not looking at like a
• 36:11
  prompter or anything. He's just seeing her.
• 36:14
  And he realized he's like, yeah, after the first one, I went, oh,
• 36:17
  I got to really focus and concentrate.
• 36:19
  So I. Don't want to be the weakest
• 36:22
  link. Now I know I.
• 36:23
  Say that so when you watch it, know that of course Matt Lanter
• 36:26
  knew the answer to the first question.
• 36:29
  Look at Obi Wan trying to cover for his.
• 36:32
  Boy. He even here.
• 36:37
  No, I love it. I have this whole like picture
• 36:40
  in my head because he lives up the street and he has the high
• 36:42
  ground that he comes down, you know, to your level and brings a
• 36:46
  casserole over and like, hey, James, here's the casserole.
• 36:49
  I feel bad. You're below me.
• 36:50
  Bye. And then he goes up to his, you
• 36:51
  know, I don't it's. Just he.
• 36:53
  Brings lasagna. Because he's just.
• 36:56
  Cooking in the in the molten lava.
• 36:57
  Yeah, yeah. But he's got no legs to bring it
• 37:01
  down on. He goes careful.
• 37:04
  That cheese is like lava. Yeah.
• 37:07
  That's. Tucson so when when we first
• 37:11
  moved here and the, the neighborhood was brand new and
• 37:15
  so they were still building places.
• 37:16
  So there was no house. And right now there's a house
• 37:19
  between. So I have to go down at the end
• 37:20
  of a cul-de-sac and then his house.
• 37:23
  But then it's actually some other friends of mine and they
• 37:26
  actually produce movies and stuff and they live in the house
• 37:28
  there. And they said, well, you can cut
• 37:30
  through to go see Anakin if you need to, which is very nice.
• 37:32
  But I always feel funny doing that.
• 37:35
  But so at first we had the first snow here and my daughter was
• 37:40
  still young and we have a hill behind us and she wanted to go
• 37:43
  down the hill and Matt had an extra little sled and so we
• 37:47
  walked up there. Those are my fond memories of
• 37:48
  going up to get go up the high ground to get the sled from
• 37:52
  Anakin to take my. That's a nice.
• 37:55
  Go down, but yeah, so. That's a cute story that's
• 37:58
  really nice. Really sweet.
• 38:01
  You guys didn't have snow where you lived before, did you?
• 38:04
  No, my first time in snow I was something like, I think I was
• 38:08
  like 48 years old when I first experienced snow.
• 38:12
  And. Yeah.
• 38:13
  So now we're here. We live in Tennessee and there's
• 38:16
  snow every year. It's it's for like 2 days and
• 38:19
  then it's gone, which is great. It's manageable.
• 38:21
  And so it's exciting and nobody knows how to drive in it, which
• 38:23
  is great. Yeah.
• 38:26
  We were just talking about this with one of our parents who
• 38:29
  lives in, she lives in South Carolina or North Carolina, I
• 38:32
  can't remember which. And she's like, yeah, when it's
• 38:34
  like 3 inches of snow, everything shuts down.
• 38:36
  I'm like nothing shuts down here when there's 6 feet of.
• 38:39
  Snow. No.
• 38:40
  No. Easy.
• 38:42
  Yeah, we have. We get a ton of snow here and
• 38:45
  they don't even cancel school. They think it's character
• 38:47
  building to to wade through 24 inches of snow to get to school
• 38:51
  here. So.
• 38:52
  They only canceled classes when I was in college once because it
• 38:56
  was actual temperature -40 and it was not safe to walk to
• 38:59
  class. That's different.
• 39:01
  That's cold, cold. It was very cold.
• 39:04
  I bought a scarf that came up to my eyeballs and only my eyes
• 39:08
  were out. I had It was just.
• 39:09
  And this isn't even the tundra here.
• 39:11
  This is just Illinois, gives Hoff.
• 39:13
  The new perspective. Yeah, we do love Hoff that
• 39:17
  Leanne and I. Oh, I love and this reminds me,
• 39:19
  we were going to ask you. Yes.
• 39:22
  If you could go to any Star Wars filming location, where would
• 39:26
  you go? Oh, see, now I like that because
• 39:28
  a lot of times we'll get asked, you know, what planet would you
• 39:30
  go to? Or sure, what?
• 39:32
  Yeah, filming. Yeah, filming anyone that you
• 39:35
  could go to, any era, any media. Well, you know, I did the fan
• 39:41
  film Kenobi with my friend. That's right, Jamie.
• 39:45
  Costa and I played the bad guy in that, and we shot that at
• 39:49
  Trona Pinnacles in the desert in California where they actually
• 39:52
  shot some of Star Wars. Very nice.
• 39:54
  So that was very cool. And that was a bit of a, you
• 39:57
  know, kind of a neat little thing to check off the list.
• 39:59
  Because. We actually shot in areas where
• 40:01
  they shot, so to some degree I was like, wow.
• 40:03
  I was like, I was there and it was really cool.
• 40:05
  But where would I want to go now I've been also when you go to
• 40:11
  Lucas, when you would go to the ranch, when we would go up to
• 40:14
  Skywalker Ranch and such and you're driving up in Marin.
• 40:18
  Those trees in that area is where they did and or you know
• 40:21
  that the whole. Oh yeah.
• 40:24
  Speeder Thanks, man. Yeah, I had an Obi Wan senior
• 40:27
  moment. Speeder bike James Yes.
• 40:30
  And zipping through, I was picturing Princess Leia.
• 40:33
  Yeah, yeah. And.
• 40:36
  So I guess to some degree I've been to those, but where would I
• 40:41
  really want to go? And I've been on the set of The
• 40:43
  Mandalorian, which is, Oh yeah, just a giant circle.
• 40:48
  It is just a, you're just that's it.
• 40:52
  And, and there's the roof even has camera or you know, screens
• 40:56
  on it. And that is really weird because
• 41:00
  they said that people even walk into the walls sometimes.
• 41:03
  Oh, I bet altered reality. Yeah, that would be.
• 41:07
  Yeah, I think Hoth would be really cool.
• 41:09
  I mean well, I know. Oh right.
• 41:12
  Oh no Pug very cool. No, but I I like Dagobah.
• 41:19
  I think the set for Dagobah would be really.
• 41:22
  That would be cool. Minus the snakes, I couldn't do
• 41:25
  that. They're fake, right?
• 41:29
  No, they're not. They're real.
• 41:30
  That wasn't where. Mark Himmel actually got bit by
• 41:34
  a snake, yeah. Did we talk about this?
• 41:37
  We talked about this because we did the whole episode on The
• 41:40
  Cave scene. Yeah.
• 41:41
  Oh, yeah. I just tend to, like, take
• 41:44
  things out of my brain when I don't like them.
• 41:47
  Like snakes? Now I'm, you know, The thing is,
• 41:51
  is when you've been in Star Wars as long as I have, I, I so now
• 41:55
  I've been in Star Wars for 23 years.
• 41:57
  I've worked in Star Wars and then I grew up with Star Wars.
• 42:00
  But see, I'm usually the oldest guy in the room and I know I am
• 42:04
  now. And so I can always say that I
• 42:07
  experienced these things when they first came out, you know,
• 42:10
  and when that scene in The Cave happened as a little kid, your
• 42:16
  brain like it was different than when kids see it now.
• 42:20
  I feel like because they there's so much already kind of they're
• 42:22
  just exposed to of Star Wars and it's not this shocking thing.
• 42:27
  So how does it hit you that scene?
• 42:31
  What is what does that scene mean to you?
• 42:33
  How does it hit you? Was it as freaky as it would
• 42:36
  have been for, you know, how old was I at the time?
• 42:39
  Gosh, I don't even know. Well, I remember when, you know,
• 42:44
  if you see a head roll as a young kid, I'm a little freaked
• 42:49
  out. But I was also, I was, I've
• 42:52
  always been more into the symbology of stuff.
• 42:55
  And so I knew it was more than just like a freaky, like, oh,
• 42:58
  why is Luke's head on the ground?
• 43:00
  Invader's helmet, You know? And it was fun with Lauren when
• 43:03
  we got to explore that entire episode and like what it meant
• 43:06
  to us and what we think it was supposed to mean versus what
• 43:09
  people took away from it. And I always took it away as
• 43:12
  you're going to end up here if you don't make the right
• 43:15
  decisions. And I think that still holds a
• 43:17
  little bit today. But I mean, seeing a head roll
• 43:19
  across the floor and then you're looking up at yourself is a
• 43:22
  little is a little creepy, but I love stuff like that.
• 43:26
  And also practical, you know, filmmaking back then too, that
• 43:29
  was just so great because it looks so real, you know, and it
• 43:32
  wasn't like some fake. It was Marks face in the helmet,
• 43:35
  you know, like. Shoved up through the floor.
• 43:38
  I never got to talk to him about that.
• 43:40
  I've interviewed him so many times.
• 43:41
  I should have asked him about that.
• 43:42
  Like how was that? Because you do it, it's such a a
• 43:47
  look right the. Oh yeah, I mean.
• 43:50
  The like, glassy eye. And the there's like the steam
• 43:53
  and fog around it. And so yeah, yeah, it's pretty
• 43:56
  good. I love it.
• 43:57
  The magic of filmmaking, yeah, that's I, I like that.
• 44:00
  I think that you're right. I think it is careful or you're
• 44:03
  going to end up here. I think that that's what we
• 44:06
  should have taken from it, right?
• 44:09
  But instead, all of us went, oh, it's because he's made her son
• 44:13
  right after. We knew.
• 44:14
  Oh sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 44:16
  Of. Spoiler alert, sorry.
• 44:17
  Oh, I mean, yeah, I. Haven't.
• 44:19
  Seen we'll put the tags. On your late guy.
• 44:22
  Well, my mother still hasn't seen it.
• 44:25
  Oh, Oh my. Gosh, she was a Star Trekkie.
• 44:27
  But let me tell you something. She feels bad for Obi Wan.
• 44:31
  She she thinks he's a very sad man and she feels bad for him.
• 44:34
  She thinks he's a very good man and she's watching YouTube
• 44:38
  videos and she's seen Clone Wars episodes.
• 44:40
  So I'm I'm getting her in but she hasn't seen any of the
• 44:43
  original trilogy. So she has all these questions
• 44:46
  and so I have to supplement for her but she's never spoiler
• 44:49
  alert. It would work for her because
• 44:51
  she she has never seen it. Wow, I know.
• 44:54
  That's awesome. You know I did.
• 44:56
  I don't know if I've ever talked about this.
• 44:58
  You can tell me if I did, but if not, because I'm thinking about
• 45:01
  putting this out. So years ago I had a friend of
• 45:04
  mine, Joseph Scrimshaw, who's a very talented podcaster and
• 45:07
  comedian, but he's also a huge Star Wars fan and A and a very
• 45:11
  talented writer and a stage writer.
• 45:13
  I wanted to do a one man show of Obi Wan Kenobi telling the story
• 45:18
  of Star Wars from his certain point of view.
• 45:21
  Yeah, that'd be great with the 1st 6 movies and Clone Wars of
• 45:27
  that. And I have the script.
• 45:30
  I, I've been sitting on it for about 6 years and I've
• 45:32
  considered just reading it because I was going to do it
• 45:36
  where I was going to, you know, hello there and I come out and
• 45:39
  I'm on stage and then, and then I can age back and forth
• 45:42
  different versions of Obi Wan and stuff.
• 45:44
  And it was going to be a big production.
• 45:45
  There'd be a lot of animations and things going on.
• 45:47
  Of course, I would have had to have gotten permission from
• 45:50
  Lucasfilm and they never would have given me permission.
• 45:52
  No. But but I have the script and I
• 45:57
  think I should just read it on my YouTube channel sometime
• 46:01
  because I think of people like your mom then yeah, Star Wars
• 46:04
  from that. Very sad.
• 46:10
  She has tinnitus, so she lists she falls asleep to audio books
• 46:14
  and listens to them all all day long.
• 46:17
  So if you read anything, first of all, she loves you because of
• 46:20
  the show and everything. And the last time you were on
• 46:22
  the show on our podcast, she was here and was like waiting in the
• 46:28
  living room, like she was visiting during that time.
• 46:31
  So I told her, don't call. We're doing another one.
• 46:34
  She's. Like, oh.
• 46:35
  He's so talented. It's so, but if you read
• 46:38
  something on YouTube, she would undoubtedly love that because of
• 46:42
  the tinnitus thing. And she's, she's kind of in it,
• 46:45
  you know, she's in Star Wars. So Oh my goodness.
• 46:47
  Hello, Lee Ansom. Hello there, Lee Ansom.
• 46:51
  Her name's Gina. Gina, hello there.
• 46:54
  Gina Toby Wan Kenobi, The Force is strong with you, my dear.
• 46:57
  Live long and prosper. Oh my God, she'll lose it.
• 47:01
  She will look. Thank you, that was so kind.
• 47:05
  I hope she can hear it. No, Crank it up, mother.
• 47:09
  Yeah, so I have, I have tinnitus as well from years of, you know,
• 47:13
  working and sound and stuff and and wearing headphones and and
• 47:17
  things and then too too loudest stuff.
• 47:20
  So I I know that feeling. Oh, you know the feeling.
• 47:23
  Drowned it out, yeah. I have it too, it just got bad
• 47:27
  this last year and I have to sometimes put headphones on to
• 47:31
  sleep too. It's so loud when you suddenly
• 47:34
  notice it, you're just like. Oh, it can be.
• 47:36
  Diet can can. Certain things in our diet can
• 47:38
  aggravate it too. Coffee and chocolate, things
• 47:40
  like that. Can't.
• 47:40
  Yeah, Well, I can't give up coffee and chocolate, James.
• 47:43
  I know. How could you suggest?
• 47:45
  It with the noise I'd. Rather suffer.
• 47:52
  So on this similar topic, one of our patrons actually said would
• 47:55
  you do a Star Wars audio book? And if so, which book?
• 47:58
  That came from our patron, Adela OH.
• 48:01
  Hello there, Adela. We asked them to our our lovely
• 48:04
  patrons to submit any questions that we may want to throw at you
• 48:07
  and that was one of them since you kind of were on the same
• 48:09
  vein of. I love your patrons by the way,
• 48:12
  and everybody watching this needs to become a patron of.
• 48:15
  Yours, yes. Because it's a, it's a great
• 48:19
  group. It's a great group of people.
• 48:21
  And so, yeah, I, you know, I did do, we did a Clone Wars book a
• 48:26
  while back where we all read different ones.
• 48:29
  Oh yeah, I have that one. I don't.
• 48:31
  Know how many stories there were?
• 48:32
  But like, I think Matt read a couple, I read a couple,
• 48:36
  Katmayev and Ashley did, and they were Clone War stories and
• 48:41
  that was fun. And then I did an excerpt from
• 48:44
  the Kenobi book, John Jackson Miller's book, which I thought
• 48:47
  was fantastic. You know, I got to be honest,
• 48:49
  as, as much as, you know, we all appreciate and love the Kenobi
• 48:51
  series, I thought they were going to die.
• 48:54
  I wish they had based it on that.
• 48:55
  Did you ever read the Kenobi book?
• 48:57
  I did. And I actually, I listened to
• 48:59
  the audio book and I listened to your excerpt and I really wish
• 49:03
  you had done the whole book. That's very nice.
• 49:06
  I thought he did great though. That was, Who was it that did
• 49:10
  that? Yes, not mark the other one.
• 49:15
  Mark Thompson was it? Mark Thompson was it?
• 49:17
  No, I don't. Think it was Mark Thompson.
• 49:18
  It was. It was.
• 49:19
  I can picture his face I saw him at.
• 49:22
  I'm out of this because I don't know but.
• 49:25
  I thought he, I thought he'd. Be great, you know, but he he
• 49:29
  does a very good Ewan McGregor, you know, and my Obi Wan by that
• 49:33
  point had become it kind of its own little thing.
• 49:37
  And so when I listened to mine, I went, oh, his, his sounds
• 49:39
  better so. All the Obi Wans get together
• 49:43
  like no, you're the better Obi Wan.
• 49:44
  No, you're the better they. Are the Obi Wans?
• 49:45
  What do you think? I don't know.
• 49:47
  No, I think you're very good. Oh, hello.
• 49:49
  Hello It. Would be the most polite
• 49:51
  argument ever. But someone would end up losing
• 49:56
  a Lib at some point, yes? Someone would have the high
• 49:59
  ground. Ewan McGregor has the high
• 50:01
  ground. If you saw that picture of me
• 50:03
  and I in Star Wars Celebration London, where we.
• 50:05
  Did one of my favorites. I, you know, and I've got that
• 50:09
  goofy look, as I said, you know, on my face.
• 50:11
  But he is like, you know, a foot taller than me easily, it seems
• 50:16
  like. So yeah, he's got.
• 50:18
  Wipes in his shoes, I'm. Just kidding.
• 50:21
  And if he's having a good hair day that adds another like 6
• 50:23
  inches. Even that hair is so.
• 50:25
  Voluminous I. Need to like spike mine up like
• 50:27
  I used to wear it now. Do you remember, you know the
• 50:30
  movie 16 Candles? Do you ever watch 16 Candles
• 50:33
  and, and some of the other and The Breakfast Club and stuff?
• 50:36
  So Anthony Michael Hall was in those.
• 50:38
  He played the the geek, the nerd, right.
• 50:40
  Well, he and I are about the same age and we were.
• 50:43
  So when those came out, I was the same age as him and I looked
• 50:46
  exactly like him. And I used to get stopped.
• 50:49
  People used to stop me and think I was him.
• 50:51
  I've posted pictures even before.
• 50:54
  But it's funny because now he's, he's a big guy.
• 50:57
  You know, he grew up and I never did.
• 50:59
  I see him at comic cons now and I'm like, I need to just go.
• 51:02
  So believe it or not, we actually still look just a
• 51:04
  little. That's funny.
• 51:07
  How funny. Funny.
• 51:08
  Oh, man. Breakfast Club.
• 51:10
  I grew up with that movie. Yeah.
• 51:12
  It's. Yeah, it's supposed to take
• 51:16
  place somewhere around here in a town that doesn't exist, but.
• 51:20
  Well, and then they shot it in the they made the library in the
• 51:22
  gym, right? They were they.
• 51:25
  Oh yeah, yeah. So that was all a set, which was
• 51:27
  amazing, but you know, the original cut of that movie was
• 51:30
  over 3 hours. Oh my gosh, really?
• 51:34
  I'm kind of not surprised. I, I I could see that happening,
• 51:37
  yeah. Yeah, I wish they would release
• 51:39
  it, you know, because John Hughes had made a cut.
• 51:42
  It was that, but tragic. So yeah, so I, I, I loved his
• 51:46
  movies. And so I wrote a movie called
• 51:47
  The Comic Shop that I'm still trying to get made at some
• 51:50
  point. But he just basically The
• 51:51
  Breakfast Club meets, you know. Cheers.
• 51:55
  You know, it's like. I love this.
• 51:57
  So much. That's a great mash up.
• 51:59
  Like this club set in a comic shop because these kids are
• 52:02
  waiting in line from 5 to 5 different kids from 5 different
• 52:06
  walks of life waiting in line to meet their favorite voice actor.
• 52:09
  And he's, you know, the mystery is, is this guy going to come
• 52:12
  because he's never been seen before and all of that.
• 52:15
  And, and so the whole movie is the five of them getting to
• 52:19
  figure out why are they there? What's their specific reason?
• 52:22
  Kind of like it was my homage to The Breakfast Club and each one
• 52:25
  of them story as to why they want to be one of the first five
• 52:28
  people in line because the first five people in line get this
• 52:30
  special package from the voice actor.
• 52:34
  Yeah, Oh. That's cool.
• 52:36
  Yeah. I wanted to ask you about that
• 52:37
  project because then we had talked about it last time you
• 52:40
  were on and can we crowdfund it? Well, you know, I guess that's
• 52:45
  The thing is maybe I should just do that.
• 52:47
  I you know, I, I thought about, I mean, there's so my producing
• 52:52
  partner is actually working on a a really huge big budget movie
• 52:55
  right now and he's going to be in different countries shooting
• 52:59
  and stuff and it's all still kind of top secret.
• 53:01
  But I'm like, the bummer is, is because he's busy.
• 53:05
  I can't like get in this morning.
• 53:07
  But I don't know. I mean, I guess I should I just,
• 53:10
  I'm, I always, I like, I, I, I don't like taking people's
• 53:15
  money. I always feel bad.
• 53:15
  I'm like, Oh, I don't want to so.
• 53:19
  I mean, I go yeah, but. Then I feel bad.
• 53:22
  Yeah, but they won't feel bad because you'll make the movie,
• 53:24
  dummy. Oh, OK Yeah.
• 53:26
  You know, it's like, and they'll be a part of it and they'll feel
• 53:28
  good about it. It's like, it's like when you go
• 53:30
  to the comic cons, you know, it's always feel bad.
• 53:33
  But I had somebody say to me once, you know, Consetta Parker,
• 53:37
  who? Consetta was my publicist.
• 53:38
  And Consetta is a wonderful Star Wars aficionado.
• 53:42
  She had a Star Wars wedding and all.
• 53:44
  We love Consetta. And she said to me, she said,
• 53:46
  James, you don't realize people get in line and then they talk
• 53:50
  to each other and they make friends and they make community.
• 53:53
  And then it's all this they have in common.
• 53:54
  Very true. They're time to meet you and
• 53:56
  then the other person's rooting for you and then vice versa.
• 53:59
  And then afterwards they share stories and it's this wonderful
• 54:02
  time. And I went, oh, OK.
• 54:03
  So I guess it would be the same thing for if I, you know, it's
• 54:06
  like I I'm always like, I don't want to put anybody out.
• 54:08
  I don't want to bother anybody, you know, it's like it would
• 54:11
  just make your movie, dummy, you know?
• 54:13
  So anyway. Yeah, I mean, people want the
• 54:16
  opportunity of giving like of supporting you in some sort of
• 54:19
  tangible way. And then, yeah, it's true.
• 54:21
  It's it's something that we've seen it with our podcast.
• 54:25
  It's weird to have people who want to become patrons because
• 54:30
  you feel like we're just talking.
• 54:31
  But then it does feel community and it gives people, and I'm
• 54:35
  speaking as your fan, like the chance to support your work and
• 54:40
  and help you if that's what you want, because we care about you
• 54:44
  and. Yes.
• 54:45
  They did that with the The Miss Fisher movie.
• 54:48
  That was a TV show that they wanted to turn into a movie and
• 54:51
  they didn't have the funding. It's very expensive because it's
• 54:53
  set in 1930 and they crowdfunded the whole thing and just gave
• 54:57
  people parts as extras as like a reward and oh, that's awesome,
• 55:02
  it became a movie. We love Miss Fisher on this
• 55:05
  show. I've got to check that out.
• 55:07
  Oh, it's great. What is?
• 55:08
  Very cute. Service is it on?
• 55:11
  You know it's on Acorn TV, but you could probably rent it on
• 55:15
  Amazon. It's it's just surprisingly
• 55:18
  delightful. Yes, it's a British show.
• 55:20
  It's Australian. Australian.
• 55:22
  It's Australian. Oh, OK.
• 55:24
  'Cause I have Brit box. Do you have Brit box?
• 55:26
  Do you know? That it might be on Brit box you
• 55:28
  can check. See, I'm wondering if it is.
• 55:30
  I'm going to check tonight 'cause that's pretty much all my
• 55:32
  life that I want. Yeah, it's fun.
• 55:35
  It's. She's a great character, really
• 55:38
  dynamic and and fabulous in every way smart.
• 55:42
  A lady detective in the 1930s. Well, we, yeah, we love all
• 55:47
  those detective shows. They have a lot of them on on
• 55:51
  Brit Box. There's one called Shakespeare
• 55:52
  and Hathaway which is very goofy.
• 55:55
  Like that one? Because we love, in fact, I'm
• 55:57
  going to if, if y'all get a chance to watch Shakespeare and
• 55:59
  Hathaway there it's, it's, it's these two private investigators.
• 56:04
  And then their assistant Sebastian, the actor is, is so
• 56:08
  wonderful. He's he's great and he is, I'm,
• 56:11
  I like that's the best role in the world because they always
• 56:13
  make him go undercover and he's this good looking young guy and
• 56:17
  he's got this wonderful, you know, British accent.
• 56:19
  No, but they, he does wonderful voices and he's so talented and
• 56:24
  I'm like, man, that guy should be like a movie star.
• 56:27
  He's so good. So yeah, that's, you know, I, I,
• 56:30
  we watch that. We watch as one of my favorite,
• 56:33
  all time favorite shows is called As Time Goes By, And it
• 56:36
  is with Dame Judi Dench and Jeffrey Palmer.
• 56:38
  He shot in the 90s in the early 2000s.
• 56:41
  But it's charming. It is about a couple that was in
• 56:44
  love when they were like 18 and 20 something.
• 56:48
  He was a soldier in the Korean War and she was a nurse.
• 56:51
  They met, they fell in love, and then he went to war.
• 56:54
  And then his letter got lost in the mail and they didn't see
• 56:56
  each other again until 38 years later.
• 56:59
  They reconnect. And it's a comedy and it's, it's
• 57:03
  hysterical, it's sweet, it's charming.
• 57:06
  It sounds like. Judi Dench is so good at comedy,
• 57:09
  she's brilliant. She's hilarious.
• 57:11
  I'm going to have to check that out.
• 57:12
  That sounds like just like something I would love.
• 57:15
  But anyway, we're trying to promote you, James, No.
• 57:18
  No, no. So, OK, so no, I hear you.
• 57:20
  I hear you. Yeah, 'cause I mean, my idea, as
• 57:22
  I shared before, I'm sure, was that I want the art from
• 57:24
  everybody and stuff to be in the movie.
• 57:26
  But yeah, I mean, and this movie would not cost that much, but
• 57:30
  we're just I just my so I made a movie called Hidden Blessings,
• 57:34
  which we've talked about before probably.
• 57:35
  But a young man in it, Mason McCarty, he played my son.
• 57:41
  He played the prodigal son, the the youngest, the youngest.
• 57:44
  And so, yeah. And he's he's actually been
• 57:47
  getting a lot. He was in one of the what's that
• 57:49
  horror film that that the clown, the scary.
• 57:53
  Oh it. No, not it the other this new
• 57:56
  one that is awful. They're like there's.
• 57:59
  No answer. They're like really bad, you
• 58:05
  know, I, I would never watch them.
• 58:07
  Yeah, I don't. Think I do.
• 58:08
  I can't watch horror. You know the.
• 58:10
  Creeper one or what? It's it's in one of the new
• 58:12
  ones, the terror fire. That's what it is terrified and
• 58:16
  he's in terrified 3 and but so he so Mason and I have been
• 58:20
  talking and I want Mason to help me produce this movie because he
• 58:24
  he's got a great eye and I'm like, oh, we should do it.
• 58:26
  So I just ran into him at a place that we frequent and say
• 58:30
  OK we got to meet. So now you all saying this is
• 58:34
  also as well. So now, OK, here you got it.
• 58:38
  Universe is sending you a secret.
• 58:40
  I mean, you've got 2 right here who are willing to support you
• 58:45
  and really and. I mean, it would be great.
• 58:48
  I'd have to sneak you into the movie somehow, That's the thing.
• 58:51
  So yeah. We're easy to look.
• 58:54
  We're both black. We can go.
• 58:55
  We can go Incognito. You can just make our outline
• 59:00
  like Hitchcock, and we'll just step into it.
• 59:05
  It is a fun movie. I, I mean, I really, you know,
• 59:08
  if you'd like, I don't do this with anybody, but I can send you
• 59:11
  both the script. If you'd like.
• 59:13
  My gosh. That's I would love that.
• 59:15
  I would love that, but that's that's on you.
• 59:18
  That's up to you. OK, now I'll send you the
• 59:20
  script. I'll say I just love.
• 59:22
  That well. We're in 'cause we should be
• 59:24
  together for this I. Know no, we'll have a little,
• 59:29
  we'll have a little session. We'll we'll read next to each
• 59:31
  other on Zoom. You read way faster than me.
• 59:35
  I do read that, but that's OK. It's OK, we'll do it together.
• 59:38
  My wife and I are like that. My wife reads so fast and she
• 59:41
  reads I don't and I go yes you do.
• 59:42
  We were reading earlier today together and it's like she beat
• 59:47
  beat me by a like a mile. She's so fast.
• 59:49
  But then again, that's this would be a script.
• 59:53
  You got to kind of savor that. That's something you got to slow
• 59:55
  down some reactions in the description.
• 59:58
  That's different. It's a different type of, yeah.
• 1:00:01
  I don't know. Yeah, I would love.
• 1:00:02
  To I say, I say yes, Lauren, yes.
• 1:00:04
  Yes. OK, OK.
• 1:00:06
  We will keep it top secret. We put Yeah, and I know.
• 1:00:09
  I know you would, that's why I'm asking.
• 1:00:11
  Oh, so we can cut this part out if you want?
• 1:00:13
  No, you don't. Have to cut it out.
• 1:00:14
  It's fine, it's fine. I want people to know that's how
• 1:00:18
  much I trust you there. Oh well, thanks I.
• 1:00:21
  Appreciate your your opinions on it and I'd love to see what you
• 1:00:24
  think of it. Oh, that's really nice.
• 1:00:26
  Thank you. No.
• 1:00:27
  No, you can be honest. That would be the uncomfortable
• 1:00:30
  part is you're like, oh, James, we read it.
• 1:00:33
  How about that? I just don't see that happening
• 1:00:36
  there. Were so many.
• 1:00:38
  Words on the there was, there was so many.
• 1:00:42
  And the words you chose were, I mean the black and white.
• 1:00:48
  The the white page with the black letters was really neat.
• 1:00:55
  Your typing skills are just really.
• 1:00:59
  I have to give my wife credit for that because she corrects
• 1:01:01
  everything I. Oh, that's me.
• 1:01:03
  That's me. I'm that person.
• 1:01:05
  Oh, are you? Yes.
• 1:01:06
  Yep. Do you like it?
• 1:01:08
  I do. Do you like I do?
• 1:01:10
  I love it. Yeah, I do.
• 1:01:12
  Now see, because I you know, when you both are on this and I
• 1:01:16
  watch and I listen, you're both extroverted because you have to
• 1:01:19
  be because it's a podcast. But are you both introvert?
• 1:01:23
  Extrovert. How?
• 1:01:24
  Like, I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:01:27
  I am deeply introverted. OK, I I assumed that 'cause when
• 1:01:32
  we met, I got that sense that you're introvert.
• 1:01:34
  Yeah. I'm scared to death of coming up
• 1:01:37
  to people and talking. Leanne.
• 1:01:38
  One time I was like, look, it's me.
• 1:01:40
  It's Nicholson. And she like, took a photo over
• 1:01:42
  my shoulder. I'm too afraid.
• 1:01:44
  It was her going, which is. Yeah, it was terrible
• 1:01:47
  photograph, but I, I've taught myself to get over it 'cause I,
• 1:01:52
  I'm sole proprietor, like self-employed.
• 1:01:55
  So I have lots of clients and I have no problem whatsoever being
• 1:02:00
  on stage or speaking in public, but I don't like that one-on-one
• 1:02:05
  staring into each other's eyes that I feel my introvert comes
• 1:02:09
  out a lot in that scenario. OK.
• 1:02:14
  I am technically on the line, so I I get very tired.
• 1:02:21
  I can be gregarious and in a group of people, but I have to,
• 1:02:24
  I have to like pull the plug for a day afterwards and be quiet
• 1:02:29
  and be alone. So I do OK extrovertedly, but
• 1:02:34
  then I I really have to, I need my alone time just to kind of
• 1:02:37
  recoup but. That's what comic cons have done
• 1:02:41
  to me. We go to the shows and there's
• 1:02:45
  thousands of people, and then there's hundreds of people to
• 1:02:48
  come up to the table and, you know.
• 1:02:50
  Hello there. How are you?
• 1:02:51
  Yes. Wonderful.
• 1:02:52
  Oh, yeah. Oh, you like Johnny Test?
• 1:02:54
  Oh, he's totally awesome, man. All I can do, Hiccup, from How
• 1:02:57
  to Train Your Dragon. Oh, you know.
• 1:02:59
  Well, wait a second, Doc. You know.
• 1:03:00
  Great. Scott, Marty, I'll go through
• 1:03:02
  the whole thing. And then you do that literally
• 1:03:07
  300 times in a day. And then you go back and you
• 1:03:10
  stare at the wall in your hotel room.
• 1:03:12
  People are like, you know, like, oh, do you write when you get
• 1:03:14
  into that and you're like, no, I get home, I go back.
• 1:03:17
  We watch Golden girls like if it's a good, The Golden Girls
• 1:03:22
  will have, you know what is it is on like Hallmark or and
• 1:03:25
  there's two different channels. There's CMT and there's Hallmark
• 1:03:27
  that are on and that's the first thing we look for when we get
• 1:03:30
  into the room. Turn it on.
• 1:03:32
  OK, good. CMT is on.
• 1:03:33
  Golden Girls goes starts at 11 and goes till 2:00 in the
• 1:03:35
  morning. What do you know?
• 1:03:36
  Comfort show. It's so easy to just turn on.
• 1:03:41
  Yeah, so there you go. That's me.
• 1:03:42
  But that, that is my unplugging because, yeah, it is a lot to
• 1:03:47
  do. And, and the The thing is, I
• 1:03:50
  truly mean it when I meet folks, I'm truly invested in their
• 1:03:53
  lives because again, I, there's no reason why I should be the
• 1:03:57
  luckiest guy in the world to do what I do.
• 1:03:59
  And and so it's just the grace of God.
• 1:04:02
  I'm so grateful that that he's given me this gift and the
• 1:04:04
  ability to do what I do that when people come up and go, oh,
• 1:04:07
  it means it's like people go, don't you get sick of saying
• 1:04:09
  hello there? It's like, why would I get sick
• 1:04:11
  of saying something that makes people happy?
• 1:04:13
  You know, it's like the best so. Yeah, that's nice, because
• 1:04:17
  sometimes you see people who do get kind of cynical about it and
• 1:04:20
  they don't want to be asked about things anymore.
• 1:04:23
  I do wonder, though, how? How it I've seen it just at your
• 1:04:27
  table where people come up, everyone who comes up has some
• 1:04:30
  like heartbreaking example of how you've helped them through.
• 1:04:35
  And I have one of those stories too, like the worst periods of
• 1:04:38
  their life and people put that on you.
• 1:04:40
  That must be a lot to carry in your heart.
• 1:04:44
  It is, yeah. Like when I say to people I'm
• 1:04:47
  praying for you, I mean it, you know, and I do.
• 1:04:49
  But it's also what a what a wonderful gift.
• 1:04:52
  And how fortunate am I to be able to do that?
• 1:04:55
  You know, it's like I but yeah, I and I think about people and
• 1:04:59
  and Allie and I. So when when my wife is Allison,
• 1:05:04
  I call her Allie. My daughter is Lydia.
• 1:05:06
  And when it was when Lydia was working with us, she no longer
• 1:05:09
  does now. The three of us would then on
• 1:05:11
  the way home we'd say, OK, favorite person of the day, what
• 1:05:15
  was the best? What was the best story?
• 1:05:17
  Oh, who do you love? You know, OK, did you know all
• 1:05:19
  that? And we still do that now, just
• 1:05:21
  Allison and I. But it's pretty great.
• 1:05:22
  And, you know, it's there's some amazing stories.
• 1:05:24
  There's wonderful people out there.
• 1:05:26
  So I can't wait. This next week, as we wrap the
• 1:05:29
  the year of these last two shows, we'll be in San Francisco
• 1:05:32
  and Columbus, OH and then and then the holidays and.
• 1:05:39
  And the 2026? Yeah, my daughter just moved
• 1:05:42
  out, so she's got her own place and and it's very exciting for
• 1:05:48
  her, but it is weird for us 'cause now there's.
• 1:05:50
  This whole. Wing of the house that is empty.
• 1:05:52
  So we're like, what do you do with that?
• 1:05:55
  So movie theater, I'm thinking. Yeah.
• 1:05:57
  Maybe get a pet? You know, we had a dog, his name
• 1:06:03
  was Elmo and and he was fantastic before.
• 1:06:08
  So Elmo was, he was 12 when he passed.
• 1:06:12
  He was he held on three months before Lydia.
• 1:06:17
  So we adopted Lydia from China and the three months, the first
• 1:06:21
  three months of Lydia being with us, Elmo hang on, held on.
• 1:06:26
  And then that was it. And so it was it hit my wife so
• 1:06:31
  hard that I go everything and she's like, I can't, I just
• 1:06:34
  can't. And, and, and I understand also
• 1:06:37
  those like animal lovers here would be going yes, but that's
• 1:06:39
  the reason you got to do it again.
• 1:06:41
  And, and I agree. So we talk about it a lot, but
• 1:06:45
  Oh yeah, pets are amazing so. Yeah, my parents won't get one,
• 1:06:50
  even though they all they've had pets.
• 1:06:52
  Then they had four children and my my dad, I'm like, don't you
• 1:06:55
  want the dog again? And every time he comes to play
• 1:06:59
  with my dog, he's like a little child.
• 1:07:00
  And he's like, no, no, I like giving the dog back to you.
• 1:07:04
  Yeah, I mean, I like being. Retired in an empty nest or so.
• 1:07:08
  There's something nice about just handing it back, right?
• 1:07:10
  I mean, yes, and visiting babies are.
• 1:07:13
  Like that too? Yes.
• 1:07:14
  Yeah. And I mean it's, it's for us
• 1:07:16
  because of the travel. It was like it just wouldn't be
• 1:07:19
  fair. Yep.
• 1:07:20
  You know, for the last many years, because we did talk.
• 1:07:23
  About you gotta get papers for it that say it's an emotional
• 1:07:25
  support animal. Well, then we can go everywhere.
• 1:07:29
  So, OK, So what? That's the thing.
• 1:07:31
  So I love, I like I am a big I was scared to death of dogs as a
• 1:07:36
  kid. I got bitten by dogs four times
• 1:07:38
  as a kid. Oh my gosh, to a Chihuahua and
• 1:07:43
  and then one of my best friends growing up had these two
• 1:07:46
  wonderful dogs. One was a chocolate lab named
• 1:07:49
  Misty and that dog made me love dogs and made me feel safe with
• 1:07:54
  dogs. So I encourage anybody watching
• 1:07:55
  who has kids that are afraid of dogs.
• 1:07:57
  It's like get them to be because once I was around them then now
• 1:08:00
  I love them, but I always so so Elmo was a mutt.
• 1:08:05
  He we got him from a a rescue and he was he was like a Jack
• 1:08:09
  Russell Chihuahua mix, but he was the size of a Jack Russell,
• 1:08:13
  but he looked he had the coloring, the tan coloring of
• 1:08:15
  the Chihuahua. He had the big ears, but he had
• 1:08:18
  all of the best qualities of both.
• 1:08:21
  He was a really sweet dog, very loving.
• 1:08:24
  He wasn't yippee, he wasn't, and my wife always said he's like
• 1:08:27
  you. He's tiny, but he has a big
• 1:08:29
  voice. So his bark was big.
• 1:08:32
  He. He oh wow, he was like root.
• 1:08:33
  Root but he was this little dog, so.
• 1:08:37
  I love that. That's cute.
• 1:08:39
  That's really cute. Do you have any pictures to
• 1:08:42
  share? I you know.
• 1:08:44
  I mean, not to put you on the spot now, but at any time have
• 1:08:46
  you ever shared a photo of? I don't know if I've ever posted
• 1:08:51
  him or anything on on Instagram. I I guess I should.
• 1:08:55
  Well, I was. Just going to dig a family album
• 1:08:57
  out somewhere I. Mean if it's trouble, don't
• 1:09:00
  worry about it. But I was just saying.
• 1:09:01
  Yeah, no, I need to. I I will send you, I'll send you
• 1:09:03
  a picture. OK.
• 1:09:06
  And I have recordings of him barking.
• 1:09:08
  Actually, I, I worked in radio at the time and I worked in
• 1:09:12
  radio comedy. And so I would write, voice,
• 1:09:14
  produce and record comedy bits for radio stations across the
• 1:09:17
  country, everybody from Rick DS and Howard Stern to all in
• 1:09:21
  between. And so I would record these fake
• 1:09:25
  commercials and comedy bits, and anytime we needed a dog, a sound
• 1:09:29
  effect, I would have. And Elmo was great at taking
• 1:09:31
  commands. And so I would do these and then
• 1:09:34
  I could, if I needed to be even bigger, I could pitch the voice
• 1:09:37
  down and Oh yeah. Sure, sure.
• 1:09:41
  But oh, but OK, so here's what I did do.
• 1:09:44
  I'm giving you all this is you have to know I I'm giving you
• 1:09:48
  all like we're just this is just like hanging out with James.
• 1:09:50
  It is that's that's the beauty. We're going to talk about you.
• 1:09:53
  I'm sorry but. No, we were just wanted to talk
• 1:09:56
  to you. Yeah, that's all.
• 1:09:57
  I would make movies because it was at the time, it was in the
• 1:10:00
  90s, early 2000s, early 2000s, when I got my first iMac, which
• 1:10:05
  was that, you know. Yeah.
• 1:10:08
  And you could plug a camera in. An iMovie was new and you could
• 1:10:11
  make movies. So I would make Christmas movies
• 1:10:14
  with Elmo and it was Elmo's Christmas.
• 1:10:16
  Oh, I love that. So maybe what I'll do is I'll
• 1:10:20
  send you both a link to see Elmo's Christmas that.
• 1:10:23
  Would be amazing. That's that's great and a good
• 1:10:29
  way to honor Elmo too. That's right.
• 1:10:32
  And and how much I spoiled him, actually, because he's good
• 1:10:35
  about him opening all of his Christmas presents.
• 1:10:38
  Oh. So it is, it is literally him
• 1:10:41
  opening, you know, tons of Christmas.
• 1:10:43
  I love that a lot. We do that with our dog too.
• 1:10:46
  Even our family gives gifts to the animals.
• 1:10:49
  Oh, yeah, that's a must. It's a must, yeah.
• 1:10:53
  They know when there's a present coming they can smell.
• 1:10:56
  It they do it all. Goes.
• 1:10:58
  Yes, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:11:00
  So now all of that then to say the holidays are upon us, Yes.
• 1:11:04
  What then is, do you have your traditions?
• 1:11:07
  Do you have like holiday traditions, both of you?
• 1:11:09
  No, yeah. Yes we do.
• 1:11:11
  In my family, we always do Thanksgiving and then the next
• 1:11:14
  day we meet up and go buy Christmas trees together and
• 1:11:17
  it's like the kick off of the Christmas season.
• 1:11:20
  I like that, I approve. Give Thanksgiving it's due,
• 1:11:25
  right? That's right, it's my favorite
• 1:11:27
  holiday. Me too, James.
• 1:11:29
  Now they're putting Halloween up in like July, so I just, I
• 1:11:35
  can't. I think I probably you may have
• 1:11:38
  met. I think I mentioned on my
• 1:11:39
  podcast, my neighbors across the street, the day after Halloween,
• 1:11:44
  they put up their Christmas lights.
• 1:11:45
  That's crazy. And we have a glass door that is
• 1:11:50
  our front door has a big glass window.
• 1:11:52
  So everywhere I go in my house, I see these Christmas lights.
• 1:11:56
  And it actually, I'm not a Scrooge, but it does drive me
• 1:12:00
  crazy. Oh, I got you.
• 1:12:03
  Because I love because I, I love Thanksgiving.
• 1:12:08
  So it's like, I want to celebrate Thanksgiving.
• 1:12:10
  And if I'm seeing Christmas right here, you're getting in
• 1:12:13
  the way. My Thanksgiving, man.
• 1:12:14
  Yeah, I'm just sad. Like each holiday to have its
• 1:12:20
  due. And yes, yeah, yeah, my family
• 1:12:24
  always, always did Thanksgiving, did the Thanksgiving thing first
• 1:12:29
  and then Christmas. And I come from a very large
• 1:12:32
  Italian family. So for Christmas we did the
• 1:12:35
  Feast of the Seven Fishes, which is pretty traditional, 7
• 1:12:39
  different seafood, fish related dishes.
• 1:12:41
  And then it's kind of a big deal.
• 1:12:43
  Everyone had their part in the kitchen, in my grandmother's
• 1:12:46
  kitchen. Yeah, it was.
• 1:12:48
  It was pretty special. Now you know I'm a Italian on on
• 1:12:51
  my mom's side, I'm Italian. Yeah, right on.
• 1:12:53
  No. Awesome.
• 1:12:55
  Yes. It was right on.
• 1:12:56
  Very nice. Yeah.
• 1:12:57
  I'm. I'm full.
• 1:12:59
  I'm full on both sides. And what's interesting is my my
• 1:13:03
  mom and dad met in. I mean, they were high school
• 1:13:06
  sweethearts and they rode the bus together because my mom's
• 1:13:09
  side and my dad's side live on the same street.
• 1:13:11
  So it's very easy for me at Christmas just to walk to the
• 1:13:14
  other house. When that family got annoying, I
• 1:13:16
  would walk then to the other house and then just go back and
• 1:13:19
  forth. So it was.
• 1:13:21
  That was awesome. Very convenient, yeah, But it
• 1:13:24
  was. Yeah, it was cool.
• 1:13:25
  Do you know what my? Parents were high school
• 1:13:27
  sweethearts. Also, did we ever talk?
• 1:13:29
  About this, I don't know that we have, I don't know.
• 1:13:31
  And did you know that my wife and I are high school
• 1:13:33
  sweethearts? I love them.
• 1:13:34
  Are you really? This is great.
• 1:13:36
  This. Now I feel like if people fall
• 1:13:39
  in love in high school, I'm like, Are you sure?
• 1:13:42
  But back then people were more mature, I think.
• 1:13:45
  I think so. Oh, that's so nice.
• 1:13:48
  There we go. Yeah, we met in marching band I.
• 1:13:51
  Oh great. Do you know what I play?
• 1:13:53
  Do you know what instrument? I play.
• 1:13:54
  I was going to ask. I don't, I don't know.
• 1:13:56
  This is tricky. See if you can figure out,
• 1:13:59
  didn't you? You said your wife stood behind
• 1:14:02
  you, right? We I was actually the marching
• 1:14:05
  instructor. She was a underclassman.
• 1:14:07
  She was two years behind me. Oh, so I actually taught her how
• 1:14:11
  to March and so. Did you play it like drums or
• 1:14:15
  did you play like saxophone? I'm guessing trumpet, Saxophone.
• 1:14:19
  Saxophone. OK, saxophone is amazing, Yeah.
• 1:14:22
  Yeah, so I played Alto and tenor do.
• 1:14:26
  You still play. No, not as much as I should, as
• 1:14:29
  much as I should. My wife played flute and
• 1:14:31
  piccolo. Love Piccolo?
• 1:14:34
  I'm sure you had a great ombre. Sure, and that's why you're also
• 1:14:37
  a great voice actors part. There you go.
• 1:14:41
  Yeah, so and, and then in my early 20s when I was a DJI, also
• 1:14:45
  played in a lot of bar bands and stuff.
• 1:14:47
  And so nice. Huey Lewis in excess and all
• 1:14:50
  any, any of the 80's rock bands that had saxophones in it,
• 1:14:53
  they'd have me come up and play, you know the.
• 1:14:56
  Very nice. Yeah, I actually do.
• 1:14:59
  You know the band Toad the Wet Sprocket.
• 1:15:01
  Yes. No.
• 1:15:02
  Yeah, yes. So they are from my hometown of
• 1:15:04
  Santa Barbara and Todd and Glenn, and they, before they
• 1:15:07
  became Toad the Wet Sprocket, when it was just them writing
• 1:15:09
  songs and stuff, they actually had me come over and play a
• 1:15:12
  couple of saxophone parts for some songs they were working on.
• 1:15:18
  Claim to fame with that. Oh.
• 1:15:19
  Cool. Yeah, I wasn't very good.
• 1:15:21
  That's the problem is so they probably when they did told the
• 1:15:25
  Wet Spark, they're like we're not doing any saxophone.
• 1:15:27
  So I I just have to ask because Clarence Clemons, the
• 1:15:32
  saxophonist for E Street Band, could you do the Jungle Land
• 1:15:37
  solo? If if asked, could you do any of
• 1:15:40
  the any of the famous big man saxophone?
• 1:15:43
  Yeah. You know, The funny thing is I
• 1:15:45
  do remember some of the hooks that we would because at that
• 1:15:48
  time, yeah, you know, I was in school.
• 1:15:50
  It was very big and yeah, and then like cause and then at
• 1:15:53
  Christmas time, Springsteen's, you know, Santa Claus is coming.
• 1:15:56
  To town, yes. And he had the little, you know,
• 1:16:02
  you have to. So when you play and you play
• 1:16:04
  like Clarence Clemons or Lenny Pickett or any of these guys
• 1:16:07
  that David Sanborn, there's this kind of, you know, they make the
• 1:16:09
  saxophone kind of growl. They do how they do that.
• 1:16:13
  No. You actually growl in your
• 1:16:16
  throat. I was a percussionist, so I I
• 1:16:20
  can play nothing. I'm I'm the only one in my
• 1:16:23
  family who doesn't play an instrument.
• 1:16:24
  My mom played clarinet and my dad played Trump, but because my
• 1:16:28
  mom was in jazz band, she had to learn saxophone also.
• 1:16:31
  Absolutely. Nice, because I was in jazz
• 1:16:33
  band. They met in band like you and
• 1:16:35
  your wife. That is so cute.
• 1:16:40
  That's amazing. I didn't meet anybody in band
• 1:16:44
  when I was in it clearly. I wasn't even in band.
• 1:16:48
  I was in choir, but not. Bad.
• 1:16:49
  I was in choir as well. I was the only female who did a
• 1:16:53
  full drum set. Good for you.
• 1:16:55
  Yeah, at the time. Well, I hope I haven't taken up
• 1:16:59
  too much of. You.
• 1:16:59
  Oh my goodness, please, I told you.
• 1:17:01
  Never. Please.
• 1:17:03
  But it's been fun. This has been amazing.
• 1:17:07
  Are you standing? So you're like, can I please sit
• 1:17:10
  down now? No, I mean, I stand if I'm doing
• 1:17:15
  a so if so, that's my, you know, my voice over Booth right there
• 1:17:18
  behind the team. Poster.
• 1:17:20
  Yeah. And I stand for sessions there,
• 1:17:24
  and I stand for four hours. Amazing in.
• 1:17:26
  One spot with headphones on. I mean my.
• 1:17:29
  Stuff. So I'm very used to it.
• 1:17:31
  I'm I'm a stander. Just before we go yes, yes.
• 1:17:35
  Do we want to give them some rapid fires?
• 1:17:38
  Yes, sure. Yeah, let's do it.
• 1:17:39
  That's great. We did this last time, but we
• 1:17:41
  switched up the questions. OK, would you rather wear a Cape
• 1:17:46
  or a poncho? A Cape A.
• 1:17:51
  Cape. A Cape, hands down.
• 1:17:54
  Exactly. Absolute.
• 1:17:56
  I thought of you, Leanne, when I wrote that.
• 1:17:58
  Is there a particular Cape in Star Wars that you favor?
• 1:18:02
  It could be Landos, it could be Vaders, it could be Chronics, it
• 1:18:05
  could be anybody's. There's many capes and.
• 1:18:10
  They all have those, like the little chain, you know, and
• 1:18:12
  thing. And yeah, it's curious.
• 1:18:14
  To me, that seems like that would annoy me.
• 1:18:17
  Now I've I've worn a Lando Cape because Billy Dee and I are
• 1:18:21
  friends and on stage I would, I would put on the Billy Dee Cape
• 1:18:24
  and the mustache. We would do pictures and stuff
• 1:18:27
  together. And I find it that while it
• 1:18:30
  looks great, you have to be as cool as Billy Dee to pull that
• 1:18:33
  off. You know, because it's.
• 1:18:36
  There is a certain Billy Dee to it.
• 1:18:38
  You know there's a Billy Dee Ness of some sort.
• 1:18:43
  So I don't know. I've always, I like, like the,
• 1:18:46
  you know, Doctor Strange Cape. Oh, that's, that's a good one.
• 1:18:49
  Actually. That's a good one.
• 1:18:51
  Collar's up. Oh yeah, they yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:53
  You know what, if Obi Wan could get a collar up version of that
• 1:18:59
  he would be. He would be even cooler than
• 1:19:01
  Lando I think. Don't you think that if Obi Wan
• 1:19:03
  wore a Cape it would be that kind?
• 1:19:05
  It would be. You got it, Yes, Yeah.
• 1:19:08
  It would be just so cool. People's heads would just
• 1:19:11
  explode. So we.
• 1:19:12
  Especially if we had the mullet. If the mullet sat on the on the
• 1:19:17
  popped up Cape and it would. Do this you know.
• 1:19:19
  Mullet Obi Wan? Why not?
• 1:19:21
  Anyway, next question, yes. All right, this one was inspired
• 1:19:27
  by our patron Adela, who asked us this question.
• 1:19:30
  Would you rather fight an Ewok sized Wookiee or a Wookiee sized
• 1:19:34
  Ewok? Oh my goodness, they're both
• 1:19:37
  tenacious. I'm going to, I'm going to hope
• 1:19:45
  that the Wookiee sized Ewok might be so like, what am I
• 1:19:51
  doing? They wouldn't have the same
• 1:19:53
  fighting skills as a Wookiee that is a Ewok size because.
• 1:20:01
  Every Wookiee at one point was Ewok size.
• 1:20:04
  Oh, that's a good point. Too very smart.
• 1:20:08
  I never got that right now. That's a whole Obi Wan.
• 1:20:13
  Big brain on Obi Wan, yes. Next question, who's your
• 1:20:20
  favorite set of friends in Star Wars?
• 1:20:22
  I I'm thinking the trio now. I know you might be biased.
• 1:20:25
  I know you might be biased. I am, I mean, you know, well,
• 1:20:29
  like characters or people, I mean, like, 'cause you know,
• 1:20:32
  Matt and Ashley and I, we are. And then Cat joins us and that's
• 1:20:36
  right, but. I'm thinking characters.
• 1:20:40
  Lauren wrote this question, so I'll default to her if you have
• 1:20:44
  a specific. I was thinking characters, but
• 1:20:46
  it could be whatever you, you're, I was.
• 1:20:48
  Thinking characters. I I like Jabba and you know dude
• 1:20:53
  with the. Salacious Crumb.
• 1:20:58
  Salacious Crumb and then, but also his his guy, his right hand
• 1:21:01
  man with the. Please do the imitation, Lauren.
• 1:21:04
  Lauren does the please. Lauren does?
• 1:21:08
  Yeah, she does. One voice and one voice.
• 1:21:09
  OK. I want to hear you got to.
• 1:21:11
  Hear it but I will Taco to Jabba now that's I don't do that's.
• 1:21:14
  One voice. When she's really annoyed and
• 1:21:17
  she goes Taco to Jabba now she goes.
• 1:21:19
  She doesn't really. Want.
• 1:21:24
  I put you on the spot. That was so magical when I was a
• 1:21:28
  kid and you saw that. That was the first.
• 1:21:30
  That's the opening Return of the Jedi.
• 1:21:32
  It was amazing. And then you know that you will
• 1:21:34
  take me to Jabba now. And you know, Luke Skywalker is
• 1:21:38
  the coolest. Year.
• 1:21:39
  Yes, yes. Yes.
• 1:21:41
  Oh my gosh. And then that guy, yeah.
• 1:21:43
  And Jabba's mad at that dude because he's weak minded.
• 1:21:47
  I think I watched my VHS tape of that scene so much it got a
• 1:21:51
  crease in it and I always knew right where to stop or want.
• 1:21:55
  I have his action figures still from when I was a kid.
• 1:21:58
  I still. Oh wow.
• 1:21:59
  Very. Nice cool one, yeah, but OK, so
• 1:22:02
  no. And that's my comedy answer to
• 1:22:04
  it. But I get.
• 1:22:06
  It works. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:09
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:22:11
  Yeah. Is that a friendship though?
• 1:22:14
  I'm not sure if that's an abusive relationship.
• 1:22:16
  Absolutely. That's all our rapid fires.
• 1:22:22
  That's it, That's all we had. I know.
• 1:22:25
  What's your favorite Christmas movie?
• 1:22:28
  My favorite Christmas movie. Oh my goodness.
• 1:22:31
  See, the one we want all the time is I Love Actually.
• 1:22:37
  Oh. I love that movie.
• 1:22:38
  That's my. Favorite.
• 1:22:40
  Yeah, don't. Mean it kills me, though I know
• 1:22:42
  some people be like James. It's not very you know, it's
• 1:22:45
  it's very R rated It's but it's I don't know it's it's it's a
• 1:22:49
  great movie. You know what I I love the
• 1:22:52
  filmmaker that made that movie. Is it, what is his name?
• 1:22:57
  Curtis. But he makes great movies.
• 1:23:00
  He made about time. Did we ever talk about it about
• 1:23:03
  time? Have you ever seen that?
• 1:23:05
  He. Might have with.
• 1:23:06
  With Dominic Gleason, you know, from he's the he's the lead
• 1:23:13
  about Time is a beautiful movie made by the same guy that made
• 1:23:17
  Love Actually. And what I love about his movies
• 1:23:20
  is there's no like the third act doesn't always have this like,
• 1:23:24
  horrible thing that happens. Sometimes it's just life
• 1:23:27
  happens. And and yet it's still the
• 1:23:29
  characters and and it's there's loveliness and there's.
• 1:23:32
  So yeah, I, I love Love. Actually, I too.
• 1:23:35
  I think it's a really important message too, especially now that
• 1:23:38
  Love Actually is all around. Yeah.
• 1:23:41
  And we do our Hugh Grant impression, you know that Hugh
• 1:23:45
  Grant impression when he's walking through and he goes hi.
• 1:23:49
  Yeah. And then he and then he looks.
• 1:23:52
  Like he's like, what? Am I an idiot?
• 1:23:56
  Hi. Do you do the dancing?
• 1:23:59
  Yeah, the dance. Do you?
• 1:24:00
  Do you do that in your house when no one's looking and you
• 1:24:02
  got the music on? Yeah.
• 1:24:06
  I don't know if I listen to, you know, the pointer.
• 1:24:09
  Sisters. Oh no, but I mean.
• 1:24:11
  I listen to, you know, the Red Hot Chili Peppers singing higher
• 1:24:13
  ground, but it's the same, same dance.
• 1:24:16
  It works. It works.
• 1:24:18
  We were laughing the other day. Why is Oh 'cause Flea is in the
• 1:24:23
  Kenobi series and his concho is just so bright and colorful?
• 1:24:28
  It is. All laughing, yeah.
• 1:24:30
  So as much as I appreciate him being there, that's the thing
• 1:24:34
  that I don't get. So fleas in it, but I wasn't.
• 1:24:38
  No. Come.
• 1:24:40
  On we won Kenobi's snot in it, but flea how?
• 1:24:43
  Cool. Would it have been, you know,
• 1:24:44
  for me to be an alien in the background and go on?
• 1:24:47
  Hello there. I I would think of Boudaba now.
• 1:24:53
  You're going to think of me now every time you hear that.
• 1:24:58
  I love it. This has been so delightful and
• 1:25:02
  I so appreciate you both. And that's just you.
• 1:25:04
  You do what a podcast is about. You share, you laugh, you love
• 1:25:10
  you spread that out to all of your fans and the people that
• 1:25:13
  are are your patrons and the people that listen.
• 1:25:16
  And that's why I've always been so, so happy to be a part of it
• 1:25:19
  and, and all, and I just thank you because you do what what
• 1:25:22
  Matt and Ashley and I try to do as well, just love Star Wars, be
• 1:25:25
  a part of it and have fun with it and talk about it with other
• 1:25:27
  people. So.
• 1:25:29
  Yeah. That's really it.
• 1:25:30
  Oh, we want approves. Oh, that.
• 1:25:32
  Means a lot. That is the highest of praise.
• 1:25:36
  Thank you. And and, you know, you're just
• 1:25:40
  so genuine and it really, really shows.
• 1:25:42
  And having you on is like having a friend.
• 1:25:45
  If we could say that, you know, we.
• 1:25:46
  Yeah. Absolutely.
• 1:25:47
  Well, we are absolutely friends. Kind of recently we do a, a, a
• 1:25:51
  segment for our patrons called mindfulness with MTK and we
• 1:25:56
  spend a little time talking about being mindful and being
• 1:25:59
  thankful and grateful. And the last thing that we did
• 1:26:01
  was three things we're grateful for.
• 1:26:04
  And Lauren upstaged me and said the podcast and and I didn't
• 1:26:08
  upstaged. You, I was grateful for you and
• 1:26:13
  for Obi Wan for bringing us all. Together.
• 1:26:17
  And that's really you, James, 'cause it was the Clone Wars
• 1:26:20
  version of Obi Wan. I didn't even like Obi Wan until
• 1:26:23
  I watched Clone Wars and it was you and your performance.
• 1:26:27
  And that's what made us friends, Leanne.
• 1:26:30
  And I is it really is actually. You're the start of the ripple
• 1:26:33
  and it just goes from there. So thank you for all of that.
• 1:26:38
  Well, it's very incredibly humbling.
• 1:26:41
  As a voice actor, you kind of your job is to kind of blend
• 1:26:44
  into the background and let the character be and all of that.
• 1:26:48
  But the other thing it does is being involved in a franchise as
• 1:26:51
  big as Star Wars for so many years.
• 1:26:52
  And when you have someone as big as, say, Ewan McGregor or, or
• 1:26:56
  Sir Allen Guinness, but certainly Ewan McGregor, you
• 1:26:59
  know, I, I kind of, I don't ever think of myself as a real part
• 1:27:05
  of it. I think of like the lucky kid
• 1:27:07
  that got to play over here and, and he's getting away with it.
• 1:27:11
  Like, you know, it's that that imposter syndrome, I guess they
• 1:27:14
  call it. But so I really appreciate that.
• 1:27:18
  And it is it's when I go to the shows and people say, Oh yeah, I
• 1:27:22
  grew up with Clone Wars. So, you know, I go like, well,
• 1:27:25
  that's, that's amazing. So how lucky am I?
• 1:27:28
  Luckiest guy on the planet, so thank you in the bottom of my
• 1:27:31
  heart. You are greatly appreciated and
• 1:27:33
  and loved and we can't thank you enough for just being a friend
• 1:27:39
  of ours and being a friend of the show, truly.
• 1:27:41
  Yeah, and always being generous with your time.
• 1:27:43
  And you know, we try not to irritate you with tagging you in
• 1:27:48
  too much. Stuff No, it's good.
• 1:27:49
  Please always do yeah, because I'm I'm not always on Instagram.
• 1:27:53
  I went for a time where I wasn't on a lot over this time where we
• 1:27:57
  were moving our daughter and everything too.
• 1:27:59
  And I was like, Oh my gosh, I got to get back on.
• 1:28:00
  And then that's of course I get to see Dark Obi Wan.
• 1:28:04
  Well, we had to. We had to.
• 1:28:06
  Yeah, and you know, it's I did. I did various versions of that.
• 1:28:10
  Hello there. And I'm I've liked the one they
• 1:28:12
  landed on. But yeah, hello there.
• 1:28:15
  So sassy. All the texturing you did with
• 1:28:17
  it was it was great. Our friend, our patron.
• 1:28:22
  I hope so. Like just give you your own
• 1:28:24
  animated Obi Wan shows. Like I said, it's like CNN but
• 1:28:28
  for Obi Wan. It's like.
• 1:28:30
  All day. I like that all Obi Wan all.
• 1:28:35
  Day I so appreciate you both I really do and I thank you so
• 1:28:37
  much and Leanne tell your mom I said hello I know I.
• 1:28:40
  Absolutely will. I will point her to this when it
• 1:28:42
  comes out. Oh, actually, I might let
• 1:28:44
  literally into it kind of early, but I'll tell her I'm going to
• 1:28:47
  call her as soon as this is over.
• 1:28:49
  OK. And be fair, Lauren.
• 1:28:52
  Tell your folks hi. And from one childhood
• 1:28:54
  sweetheart with his wife to another marching band, Yes.
• 1:28:58
  Thank you, I will. Well, my best to all of you and,
• 1:29:02
  and for a beautiful, wonderful Thanksgiving, a Merry Merry
• 1:29:05
  Christmas, a Happy New Year, and I'm going to send you my script
• 1:29:09
  so you can read it. Thank you.
• 1:29:11
  Christmas is Comer on earth. Thanks James.
• 1:29:14
  Thank you so much. Thank.
• 1:29:15
  You so much, James. And the only way I can end it is
• 1:29:18
  the way I begin it. Why with instead of?
• 1:29:19
  Hello there. It's goodbye there.
• 1:29:28
  We'd like to thank James once again for taking time out of his
• 1:29:31
  really busy schedule to sit down and talk with us or stand and
• 1:29:34
  talk with us. He made time to speak with us
• 1:29:36
  during a very busy week. He was getting ready to leave
• 1:29:39
  for a con and it was also the week of Thanksgiving.
• 1:29:42
  So we want to reiterate how grateful we are for the time
• 1:29:45
  that we got to spend with him. For those who are interested,
• 1:29:48
  there's a full length video interview with him that's
• 1:29:51
  available on our Patreon for our Jedi Masters.
• 1:29:53
  It has many additional minutes of footage, including different
• 1:29:57
  parts of the interview that only worked in video.
• 1:29:59
  So if you're interested in watching that, please head over
• 1:30:01
  to our Patreon and support us at the Jedi Master tier.
• 1:30:04
  You'll also get access to tons of other content.
• 1:30:07
  We have lots of additional offerings on our Patreon,
• 1:30:10
  including different kinds of video, live digital events, a
• 1:30:13
  mini podcast, and much, much more.
• 1:30:17
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• 1:30:19
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• 1:30:21
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• 1:30:23
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• 1:30:37
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• 1:30:44
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• 1:30:47
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• 1:30:50
  So until next time, may the Force be with you, my friends.