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INTERVIEW: Melanie Fiona On Embracing New Beginnings, Saying YES, Motherhood + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
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Speaker 2: Everybody is d j Envy, Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
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Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
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Speaker 2: in the building.
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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Melanie Fiona Welcome.
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Speaker 3: Hello.
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Speaker 4: Oh you were a long time no see man, I'm
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Speaker 4: so happy back. Why is it so cold? Tell me no,
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Speaker 4: not in here. I'm of your streets. Yes, seventy eighty
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Speaker 4: threes a couple days ago. Why can we keep that
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Speaker 4: same energy?
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Speaker 1: But you're not used to call weather no more.
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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm in California.
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Speaker 3: My Canadian blood is it's gone. It's not, no, it's
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Speaker 3: never gone. But the Caribbean blood is living. She's thriving.
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Speaker 5: Now how has it been for a woman from Toronto
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Speaker 5: living in uh La? Nor in the Kendrick Lamar.
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Speaker 1: Starts right up.
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Speaker 3: Wow, wow, wow, welcome active active Okay, you know I'm
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Speaker 3: very Canadian in La.
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Speaker 4: That's my position.
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Speaker 1: You're very day yeah like that. How are you doing?
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Speaker 1: How are you doing? We haven't seen form in a
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Speaker 1: long time. How is everything?
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Speaker 4: You know what life is?
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Speaker 1: Blood?
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Speaker 3: I feel very you know, blessed to be here again.
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Speaker 3: Talking about new music, motherhood, it's a full scope journey
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Speaker 3: for me. I'm just like I said, I'm just blessed
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Speaker 3: to have gas in the tank, still have creativity, to
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Speaker 3: still have opportunity, and I'm just doing everything that I
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Speaker 3: love to do.
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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm happy. I'm grateful. Congratulations you got married.
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Speaker 4: I did.
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Speaker 3: I still think four years ago was recently four five
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Speaker 3: years ago, so it is.
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Speaker 4: It is recently.
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Speaker 3: And we've been together for like, you know, thirteen years now,
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Speaker 3: so it's twelve I don't know, don't quote me a
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Speaker 3: long time, but you know it, it's getting married. Except
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Speaker 3: we did it in the pandemic, and that was really
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Speaker 3: just a testament to making it happen.
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Speaker 4: However you got to make it happen.
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Speaker 3: We had planned a huge wedding, just decided, you know what,
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Speaker 3: we're just going to walk down, get this done, and
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Speaker 3: it was really one of the best decisions we made.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's interesting people always talk about during
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Speaker 5: the pandemic called folks got divorced because they realized that
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Speaker 5: they didn't really like the significant other time.
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Speaker 1: But then there's the other side too, like your story.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we we did realize in that year. We were like,
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Speaker 3: I really do like you. I mean, we'd already had
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Speaker 3: a kid at that point, but we were like, I
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Speaker 3: really like you, like, let's do this.
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Speaker 4: It actually made us closer.
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Speaker 3: And then actually at the end of twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 3: we had like a ceremony in our backyard just for
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Speaker 3: our family, because we didn't have any family when we
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Speaker 3: did it.
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Speaker 4: So that was really special too.
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Speaker 3: You know, I had my dad walking me down the
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Speaker 3: all I got to wear the dress I never wore,
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Speaker 3: so it was it was special. And I think that
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Speaker 3: that's kind of what the last few years of my
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Speaker 3: life has taught me, is that you just got to
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Speaker 3: make the moments like we don't know if tomorrow's promised,
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Speaker 3: so you got to say yes today and that.
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Speaker 4: And is that what the scope of say yes is?
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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely so as the journey of life goes, you know,
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people talk about saying no
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Speaker 3: a lot, you know, we say no how to set boundaries.
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Speaker 3: I had to do a lot of that in my
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Speaker 3: life throughout my career, and I think that everything remarkable
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Speaker 3: that I've really learned, that I've seen that I can
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Speaker 3: do has come on the other side of saying yes,
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Speaker 3: you know, saying yes to overcoming fears, saying yes to
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Speaker 3: the love and the life that you want and desire,
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Speaker 3: saying yes to the people who show up for you
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Speaker 3: and say how can I be down and how can
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Speaker 3: I help? But obviously with discernment that takes work. So
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Speaker 3: I just want people to hear say Yes as a
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Speaker 3: musical project, but also to have affirmative language in their life.
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Speaker 3: Say yes, say yes to you, Say yes to whatever
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Speaker 3: it is that you want, and go for it.
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Speaker 1: Deshonda rohmas book influenced this.
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Speaker 4: You know, it's so funny. Yes, I was reading it. Yeah, absolutely,
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Speaker 4: Yeah cool.
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Speaker 2: Thirteen years off the grid? What you've been doing for
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Speaker 2: thirteen years? Last time we seen off the grid?
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Speaker 1: Off the grid? You know?
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Speaker 4: But you know what I was, I really wasn't. I
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Speaker 4: really wasn't.
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Speaker 3: I was outside in different ways, you know. I was
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Speaker 3: making a life as well as a living. I continue
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Speaker 3: to do shows. I am a part of a podcast
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Speaker 3: now called The Mama's Dan. It's a motherhood podcast, a collective.
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Speaker 3: I just started developing motherhood community and initiatives.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: I decided to expand my wingspan and just really step
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Speaker 3: into everything I could possibly do with my voice, all
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Speaker 3: while figuring out how I wanted to continue to do music.
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Speaker 3: You know, the industry is one one siloed experience of this.
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Speaker 3: And you know, after everything that I had went through
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Speaker 3: the peak of success, enjoying that, having difficulties with my voice,
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Speaker 3: like just all these things, it really made me ask myself,
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Speaker 3: how do I want to live and create for the
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Speaker 3: rest of my life. And so that took some shifting,
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Speaker 3: That took some refocusing, That took some severing conversations and
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Speaker 3: relationships and just going independent, you know, and really just
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Speaker 3: figuring out how I want to live my life. And
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Speaker 3: so you need experience, you need to love and learn
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Speaker 3: and live and make new music and get inspiration for
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Speaker 3: all of that. So I think a lot of people,
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Speaker 3: especially in the music industry, we live in this space
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Speaker 3: or an entertainment where you feel like there's this clock
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Speaker 3: ticking on you, you know, this clock ticking in The
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Speaker 3: only clock I'm on is God's clock. If I'm alive
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Speaker 3: and I have another opportunity, I will show up when
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Speaker 3: I am called to show up and when I have
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Speaker 3: something to say, when I have something to offer, and
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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm in that space now. And so
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Speaker 3: my mom for myself and for anyone out there is
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Speaker 3: take your time. It's yours to take. Like, we don't
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Speaker 3: work on anybody else's clock. So, you know, I just
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Speaker 3: feel grateful that in all that time, I've still been
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Speaker 3: able to reach the fans, continue to build community, continue
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Speaker 3: to build fan base, and like I said, just have
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Speaker 3: more products and creativity to put out.
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Speaker 4: So, you know, thirteen years to still have people checking
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Speaker 4: for you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a blessing because some people nobody's calling for them,
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Speaker 3: you know, and God bless those people because they don't
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Speaker 3: know how they're going to work or what else they
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Speaker 3: can do. So in that space, I figured out what
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Speaker 3: else I can do and what else I can create.
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Speaker 1: Now you mentioned your voice, Orry jessin what happened with
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Speaker 1: your voice?
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Speaker 3: So right after the MF Life came out, I remember
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Speaker 3: it was just off the Grammys. Everything was just at
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Speaker 3: the peak of success for me, and I started having
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Speaker 3: trouble with my voice and I couldn't sing for like
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Speaker 3: more than thirty minutes.
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Speaker 4: You know, I have the ballads, Yes you do.
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Speaker 3: She has to sing all the time up here, and
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Speaker 3: so that was a really terrifying place to be at
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Speaker 3: because I had never had any voice issues.
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Speaker 4: So I started to see all these specialists.
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Speaker 3: They were all like, there's nothing wrong with their vocal cords,
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Speaker 3: nothing wrong with their vocal cords. And it was one
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Speaker 3: doctor that said, what kind of a year have you had?
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Speaker 3: And it was just a floodgate of emotions because nobody
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Speaker 3: had asked me how are you. I had just come
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Speaker 3: off of a really bad breakup. I had moved states
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Speaker 3: and cities. I had had this extreme disparity in a
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Speaker 3: contrast of like high and low that I was experiencing,
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Speaker 3: and it was literally all energetic. I was just blocked
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Speaker 3: in my throat chakra. Literally I had to go for
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Speaker 3: energetic healing acupuncture. I just started to seek alternative methods.
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Speaker 3: And that was really the place where I started to
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Speaker 3: have to really recognize if I wanted to live happily
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Speaker 3: in my purpose, I had to be mindful with my purpose.
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Speaker 4: I had to be protective of my purpose.
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Speaker 3: I had to find peace and set boundaries and really
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Speaker 3: start to define how I wanted to move through my
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Speaker 3: life and my art. So I remember, I just went
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Speaker 3: for a few sessions, started to be really mindful, and
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Speaker 3: I was back on tour for six weeks with Mary J.
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Speaker 4: Blige and DiAngelo with no voice issues after that. Wow,
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Speaker 4: So it was just stress.
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Speaker 3: It was just stress and tension. And you know, there's
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Speaker 3: Louise Hayes, the body keeps the score, like we are
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Speaker 3: energy and we hold everything that we go through. This
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Speaker 3: is trauma, This our conversations, our pain points. And you
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Speaker 3: don't understand why sometimes we have progressive and consistent ailments
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Speaker 3: and things like that, and a lot of it is
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Speaker 3: from the stress and the trauma that we've been through
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Speaker 3: in our lives. So I really encourage people to approach
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Speaker 3: their life from a very holistic standpoint. Don't be so
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Speaker 3: close mind to think that it's just one thing we are.
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Speaker 3: We can actually be responsible for our own healing as well.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I completely agree, And I'm wondering, like, over the
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Speaker 5: last thirteen years, did you take a break from music
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Speaker 5: because you were kind of like rediscovering yourself.
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's a little bit of all of it.
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Speaker 3: It's it's you know, discovering myself in motherhood, in womanhood,
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Speaker 3: in an independent space, you know, stepping away from the
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Speaker 3: big machine of things a little bit, going and choosing
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Speaker 3: to go independent. A lot of that requires time, you know,
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Speaker 3: and more time than we think, Like we think a
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Speaker 3: lot of these things just happen overnight, you know, especially
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Speaker 3: when you got legal stuff involved.
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Speaker 4: Oh that could take a long time, and some of
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Speaker 4: it did, you know.
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Speaker 3: But also at the same time, I just really was
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Speaker 3: enjoying the presence of my moments of life, you know,
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Speaker 3: being present for my son in the first three years
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Speaker 3: after having him, because I was working on an album
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Speaker 3: that never came out at that time, but that you know,
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Speaker 3: entrance into motherhood really made me say, I think I
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Speaker 3: need to reshift some things in my life. But during
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Speaker 3: that time I was able to be present with my child.
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Speaker 3: So it was a lot of rediscovery. It was a
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Speaker 3: lot of shifting. It was a lot of living, you know,
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Speaker 3: and at a pace for myself in my family, which
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Speaker 3: was really healthy for me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: You had sat down and did an interview with be
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Speaker 3: et wh You were talking about the sanity of moms
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Speaker 3: and us feeling like we don't have the safe space
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Speaker 3: to be able to say things like I don't feel
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Speaker 3: like mommy in today and things like that because.
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Speaker 4: We'll feel bad for it.
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Speaker 3: Do you feel that you have that you're in that
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Speaker 3: safe space today? Yes, Yeah, And I think it took
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Speaker 3: having a second child. I never thought I was going
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Speaker 3: to have a second child. But again God's plan and
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Speaker 3: you know, a little bit of reckless behavior during the pandemic, but.
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Speaker 4: You know it really it really was.
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Speaker 3: It was me allowing myself the permission to understand that
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Speaker 3: it's going to be okay, and that I'm doing a.
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Speaker 4: Great job and I love my children.
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Speaker 3: And also the thing that I always want to encourage
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Speaker 3: women who are mothers in any capacity of their lives
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Speaker 3: is your children need to.
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Speaker 4: See you being you.
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Speaker 3: You know how many of us have seen there our
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Speaker 3: moms be Like my mom was so self sacrificing.
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Speaker 4: She's miserable.
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Speaker 3: She got back pain and stress and high blood pressure
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Speaker 3: because she was so self sacrificing for everyone else.
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Speaker 4: There's no reward for that.
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Speaker 3: You know, you have to pour into yourself and so
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Speaker 3: that whole empty cup analogy and metaphor, like, it's a
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Speaker 3: real thing.
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Speaker 4: Poor as women, we are nurturers.
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Speaker 3: We are nurturing the earth, we are nurturing our offices,
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Speaker 3: we are nurturing our children, our partners. We have to
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Speaker 3: create space and demand that we have space to pour
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Speaker 3: into ourselves.
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Speaker 4: It's the only way we could show up.
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Speaker 5: And that's why it's very important for you know, kids,
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Speaker 5: even though at our age, get to know your parents,
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Speaker 5: like to have conversations with them and learn who they
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Speaker 5: were before they were your parents.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. You know it's interesting because somebody asked me about
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Speaker 3: this the other day. They're like, how do you feel
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Speaker 3: your perspective has changed making music now versus making music before?
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Speaker 3: You know, before children, I was singing heartbreak love songs
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Speaker 3: and people love me for that. And you know, my
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Speaker 3: kids now they listen to these songs, they don't really
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Speaker 3: have the context, but they're going to understand the journey
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Speaker 3: of who their mother was as a woman, and they're
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Speaker 3: going to hear these songs on say yes and know
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Speaker 3: that these songs are a reflection of transformative, affirmative love
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Speaker 3: and they're going to understand that they're a part of that.
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Speaker 3: And so I do think it's important that your children
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Speaker 3: know who you are. This generation that we all cloak
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Speaker 3: and dagger and secrets and traumas like that's done.
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Speaker 4: We can't do that for our children anymore.
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Speaker 1: We didn't do ourselves no favors keeping secret.
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Speaker 3: No no, no no, And our children deserve to know
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Speaker 3: who we are so that they have permission to be
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Speaker 3: who they can be in their lives and understand that
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Speaker 3: it's not a straight line and there's no perfect you know,
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Speaker 3: you just do your best.
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Speaker 1: How is it doing?
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Speaker 2: Because you said you're independent now, so you're no longer
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Speaker 2: with UMG or rock Nation. No, why did you decide
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Speaker 2: to go independent?
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Speaker 3: You know, that's just like the trajectory of life. I
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Speaker 3: had the opportunity to and I took it. You know,
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Speaker 3: it wasn't a bad situation. You know, shout out to
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Speaker 3: Steve Rifkin and SRC Records. You know, I had the
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Speaker 3: opportunity to make an exit, to change the trajectory of
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Speaker 3: my life, and I took it. And again, even that
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Speaker 3: had his issues going independent, and even that had its
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Speaker 3: learning curves. But you know, now in this space, this project,
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Speaker 3: I've partnered with a Canadian label, you know, some friends
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Speaker 3: from back home who were like, yo, what do you
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Speaker 3: want to do? And I was like, I want to
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Speaker 3: put out some new music and they were like, bet,
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Speaker 3: we'll help you, you know, And even in that space
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Speaker 3: with a little bit of help, it's still a lot
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Speaker 3: on me. So I'm still driving this ship. I'm still
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Speaker 3: steering how I want it to feel and look like.
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Speaker 3: And having the long existing relationships of people that you
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Speaker 3: have history with and coming back to see them. So
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Speaker 3: I don't feel like I'm starting from scratch. I'm just
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Speaker 3: starting again and it feels good, like it feels free.
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Speaker 3: And also I think for me creatively, I'm not trying
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Speaker 3: to chase who I was. I've already done that. It
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Speaker 3: kills me, exists for him, exists wrong side of a
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Speaker 3: love song full for you, they already exist, They've already
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Speaker 3: amounted the success I want to be and create new
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Speaker 3: art that it has its own light and own life.
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Speaker 3: So you know, it's it's good. You know, people, artists,
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Speaker 3: everybody's like, you know, get to the artists are the bag,
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Speaker 3: like you're you're the bag.
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Speaker 4: So you have value Once you know that, people.
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Speaker 3: Come to you and they want to help and they
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Speaker 3: want to collaborate with you. But it definitely takes a team,
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Speaker 3: and so I'm rebuilding my team. It's been you know,
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Speaker 3: as I expand in the motherhood space in different ways
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Speaker 3: to use my voice, team will continue to expand. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's a lot of responsibility, and I got two kids now,
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Speaker 3: so it's way more responsibility. But again it's blessed stress
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Speaker 3: as I call it. You know, we're all stressed about something,
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Speaker 3: at least be stressed about what.
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Speaker 4: You love doing.
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Speaker 3: Do you have ever feel guilty, have those guilty thoughts
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Speaker 3: that you're not spending enough time with your children because
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Speaker 3: now you're you're delving back into music and you're you
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Speaker 3: have all your podcasts and everything else that. Do you
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Speaker 3: do you still feel yourself struggling in areas where you
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Speaker 3: like can.
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Speaker 4: Improve, where you want to improve? You know what I mean? Definitely?
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Speaker 4: You know, I'm getting ready to go on tour.
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Speaker 3: You know, this is the first time I'm going on
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Speaker 3: tour with two kids, and since having both old three
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Speaker 3: and nine and.
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Speaker 1: I got two of old in the house.
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Speaker 4: You really do, Wow, it's a it's a you like
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Speaker 4: that jump, you like that space of the te I.
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Speaker 1: Actually I got three, six and nine and then a
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Speaker 1: sixteen year old.
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Speaker 4: That con to me one more time.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really, I really am kind of bracing myself
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Speaker 3: for that. What that's gonna be like to be away
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Speaker 3: from my children for three weeks. I mean, they'll probably
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Speaker 3: pop out and say hi on a couple of shows,
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Speaker 3: but you know, they have they have school now, and
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Speaker 3: that's a big part of my mental load. I run
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Speaker 3: that ship. Even though I'm out here, gonna go do television.
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Speaker 1: He gonna be calling you everywhere socks. Now.
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Speaker 3: Actually, he's really good, and we have help right now.
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Speaker 3: We have family with us who know how we kind
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Speaker 3: of run our house, so we've kind of had to
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Speaker 3: enlist that help. But I think that that's one way
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Speaker 3: that I kind of give myself permission and I try
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Speaker 3: to quiet the guilt down. I think guilt is a
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Speaker 3: thing that naturally comes up, but you have to work
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Speaker 3: actively to say that's not really real.
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Speaker 4: Like my kids are.
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Speaker 3: Actually taking care of I am actually out here doing
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Speaker 3: what I need to do. They're cared for, they're loved,
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Speaker 3: and it's temporary. Everything is temporary. Like my parents are immigrants.
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Speaker 3: I think about my parents leaving my brother in Guyana
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Speaker 3: to come and immigrate to Canada, to set the life up,
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Speaker 3: to bring their children and their family up to Canada,
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Speaker 3: and how devastating that must have been to be like,
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Speaker 3: we don't know if it's gonna work, we don't know
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Speaker 3: what's gonna happen. But I have to leave my child
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Speaker 3: in a different country and re establish my life, you know.
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Speaker 3: So I always use that as as a guiding light
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Speaker 3: for me every time I think about guilt, and every
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Speaker 3: time I think about what's possible, because we made it.
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Speaker 3: We all made it, and we're doing all right. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and I'm seven months postpartum.
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Speaker 4: So it's like.
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Speaker 3: Yes, right, and no, this is my second My son
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Speaker 3: is twelve, okay, started over right, yeah yeah. So And
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Speaker 3: although I do have help. You know, my fiance's mom.
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Speaker 3: She moved from Kowait to come and be the nanny
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Speaker 3: and help, you know, And and that is don't play
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Speaker 3: with me. Don't play with no Melanie anyway. I'm not
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Speaker 3: gonna come for the mamas. I got you girl. Because
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Speaker 3: she's Mexican. I'm like, yeah, she was working over there.
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Speaker 1: Should you say that at the time, like this just
16:10
Speaker 1: you just got here, like.
16:16
Speaker 3: Just go so and I still find myself feeling guilty.
16:21
Speaker 3: You know, I was breasting, but out of nowhere, I
16:24
Speaker 3: just stopped producing milk. And I'm guilty because I can't
16:28
Speaker 3: give her breast milk anymore. Now she has to get
16:31
Speaker 3: on formula and everything, and it's just like uh. And
16:35
Speaker 3: and I'm touring because I'm a stand up comedian as well,
16:37
Speaker 3: and so I'm here this weekend and then I'm there
16:40
Speaker 3: this weekend, and I have to get up early and
16:41
Speaker 3: leave her because I do radio from six to ten
16:43
Speaker 3: or six to like whatever that is. So I'm still
16:46
Speaker 3: in the thick of it where I'm trying to balance
16:49
Speaker 3: that that guilt or even just rebuke the guilt because
16:53
Speaker 3: I know I.
16:55
Speaker 4: Shouldn't feel that way, but I do. I cannot. But
16:58
Speaker 4: because you love, yeah, love your child.
17:02
Speaker 3: And when you love something so much, when you love something,
17:05
Speaker 3: think about everything that you love, even professionally, like you
17:08
Speaker 3: want to show up if you love right, and this
17:11
Speaker 3: is someone that you made, like you carry, you know,
17:14
Speaker 3: the sacrifice, the bond and yeah, like that breastfeeding thing.
17:17
Speaker 4: Girl, Oh my gosh.
17:18
Speaker 1: Let me tell you.
17:19
Speaker 3: When my first one, I was so sad when that
17:21
Speaker 3: milk was like bye girl.
17:23
Speaker 4: With my second, I was like are we done? Whatever?
17:26
Speaker 4: Are we done?
17:27
Speaker 3: Because I'm not enjoying like it was so difficult the
17:30
Speaker 3: second time around, by three months, I remember my husband looked.
17:33
Speaker 4: At me and he was just like, if you're unhappy,
17:35
Speaker 4: I just stop.
17:35
Speaker 3: I was pumping non stop just to be like she
17:38
Speaker 3: gotta get Yeah. My body was like no, we're done now.
17:42
Speaker 3: And I felt the second time around when I released
17:46
Speaker 3: myself from that. So I know everything that you're saying,
17:49
Speaker 3: and it's a journey, and no one's actually gonna help
17:51
Speaker 3: you get there.
17:52
Speaker 4: It's just you. You're gonna have to arrive.
17:54
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to see I think once you start
17:57
Speaker 3: to maybe once you start to just really, when she
18:00
Speaker 3: sees you happy, she does not know any like you
18:04
Speaker 3: being happy is actually what makes her happy. And I
18:07
Speaker 3: think that that's the thing that we forget. Your children's
18:10
Speaker 3: happiness and they've done studies on this depends on the
18:13
Speaker 3: happiness of the mother more than anyone else in their life.
18:17
Speaker 3: So you being happy and fulfilled in my only advice,
18:21
Speaker 3: even though we're not really supposed to give advice, my only,
18:24
Speaker 3: you know, suggestion, would be to try to find the
18:27
Speaker 3: happiness in your presence. You know, we talk about balance,
18:31
Speaker 3: like it's supposed to be fifty to fifty.
18:32
Speaker 4: No, some days it's ninety ten.
18:35
Speaker 3: But when you're there at nine, if you're there in ninety,
18:37
Speaker 3: be there with her, you know, enjoy your time, show
18:40
Speaker 3: her enjoy, like, create those moments, and when you're not there,
18:44
Speaker 3: then she knows that she's loved and then you're in
18:46
Speaker 3: your full purpose as well. But it's hard, I get it,
18:50
Speaker 3: It really is hard and it's a real thing, Like
18:52
Speaker 3: we talk about it on the podcast all the time
18:54
Speaker 3: because it's a real thing.
18:55
Speaker 1: What did you meet your husband? How did y'all meet Ooh?
18:57
Speaker 1: Maybe looking for exactly I've been married twenty four years.
19:02
Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you very much.
19:06
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. He wants to
19:08
Speaker 1: be based so bad. He wants to be based so bad.
19:11
Speaker 3: Messy, y'all still messy? Oh my gosh, sale message.
19:19
Speaker 1: Where you meet your husband?
19:20
Speaker 3: Because he talks about he's asking the thoughtful questions.
19:24
Speaker 4: I love this question. Thank you very much for asking you.
19:26
Speaker 3: So there's a fun A funny story is we actually
19:31
Speaker 3: used to work in the same studio, right next to
19:33
Speaker 3: each other and didn't even know for years, and one
19:36
Speaker 3: day he used to be a songwriter. Now he's a
19:38
Speaker 3: manager and an executive. He's a partner at a media company.
19:41
Speaker 4: He's doing very well. I'm very proud of him.
19:43
Speaker 3: But at that time, he was a songwriter and I
19:45
Speaker 3: was working on my second project and the first time
19:47
Speaker 3: we met this guy for my team was like, Hey,
19:50
Speaker 3: these guys next door want to play you a song?
19:52
Speaker 3: When she stepped next door and go, so I walked inside.
19:54
Speaker 3: That was the first time we met, but we were
19:55
Speaker 3: both in different relationships. And then cut to like a
19:58
Speaker 3: few years later, we're both out of relationships and we're
20:02
Speaker 3: in a writing trip. We're like on a writing camp,
20:06
Speaker 3: and we ended up on an island together. It was
20:10
Speaker 3: just like a writ like a creative you write for
20:12
Speaker 3: you just write and then like you place the songs
20:14
Speaker 3: or whatever. And it was my first writing camp and
20:16
Speaker 3: I didn't even know him. We took the same flight.
20:18
Speaker 3: We got off the flight and we saw each other
20:20
Speaker 3: and it was like, oh, hey, I know you. I
20:21
Speaker 3: know you, but instantly we were just like really familiar.
20:25
Speaker 3: And that's how that's how it started. We just met
20:28
Speaker 3: on this island and I was like, this is like
20:30
Speaker 3: I don't know, this is really weird. And I had
20:32
Speaker 3: actually gotten out of a relationship like a year and
20:34
Speaker 3: a half before.
20:35
Speaker 4: I was doing my dating thing being outside.
20:38
Speaker 3: And I remember right before I went on that trip,
20:41
Speaker 3: I said to my friend at the time, I was like,
20:42
Speaker 3: I think I'm ready to meet someone for real, for real,
20:45
Speaker 3: Like i think I'm ready to like venture into a
20:47
Speaker 3: serious relationship again. And I went on that trip and
20:51
Speaker 3: we met, and then we came back to New York
20:54
Speaker 3: and we kind of started dating. We dated for almost
20:57
Speaker 3: a year, like kind of figuring it out, and then
21:00
Speaker 3: we broke up.
21:03
Speaker 4: No, it's a brilliant story. No, you know what the
21:09
Speaker 4: thing is.
21:09
Speaker 3: I always say this because I always used to say
21:11
Speaker 3: I was like, no, U turns like at that point
21:13
Speaker 3: in my life, I was like, I've already done the
21:16
Speaker 3: you know how it's going to work out when you
21:17
Speaker 3: make when you spend the block, if you have this turnaround,
21:20
Speaker 3: it usually don't work. So what I always do. What
21:23
Speaker 3: I said was is like I just kept going and
21:25
Speaker 3: he met me where I was at. So yeah, because
21:28
Speaker 3: I wasn't looking back, I was like, if you are
21:30
Speaker 3: my person, you we will align. I don't have to
21:33
Speaker 3: pull back and you don't have to like You're going
21:35
Speaker 3: to meet me where I'm at. And I had done
21:37
Speaker 3: a lot of work at that time, so I wasn't
21:39
Speaker 3: willing to compromise the amounts of self work I had done.
21:43
Speaker 3: I knew the love that I deserved, I knew the
21:44
Speaker 3: love that I wanted. I felt like we could have it.
21:46
Speaker 3: But again, you got to say yes to overcoming some
21:50
Speaker 3: of those things. You know, at that time, we I
21:56
Speaker 3: don't I'll say this, We've both gotten out of long
21:59
Speaker 3: relationships and I had done the work to figure out
22:01
Speaker 3: how to move on from that, and I don't think
22:03
Speaker 3: that he had.
22:04
Speaker 4: At the time.
22:04
Speaker 3: He had never given himself permission to be single, he
22:06
Speaker 3: had never enjoyed that part, and so I think when
22:09
Speaker 3: he met me, I think it was a moment where
22:11
Speaker 3: he was kind of like, WHOA, I think I just
22:13
Speaker 3: met the person I'm gonna be the rest be with
22:15
Speaker 3: for the rest of my life.
22:16
Speaker 4: Like, am I ready for that?
22:17
Speaker 1: Yeah?
22:18
Speaker 3: I need to be the man that she deserved for sure,
22:21
Speaker 3: and I respected him for that, And when we parted ways,
22:23
Speaker 3: it was in love like that was one of the
22:25
Speaker 3: most beautiful breakups I think I'd ever had, because we
22:28
Speaker 3: saw each other for who we were as individuals, and
22:32
Speaker 3: I was just like, whatever work you need to do
22:34
Speaker 3: for yourself has nothing to do with me, and I
22:37
Speaker 3: actually don't even want to be the catalyst for it.
22:39
Speaker 4: So I'm going to remove myself so that you.
22:41
Speaker 3: Have the space to go and do and be what
22:43
Speaker 3: you want to do and be without my influence or
22:46
Speaker 3: me planting seeds. And so I know that if you
22:48
Speaker 3: show back up, you showed up because you want to
22:50
Speaker 3: be here. You showed up because this is where you
22:52
Speaker 3: know you supposed to be, not because I've been planning
22:55
Speaker 3: the seed of hope, Like are you gonna hey, I'm
22:58
Speaker 3: still here now. I started dating someone else, like we
23:01
Speaker 3: really started.
23:02
Speaker 1: He called the lady immediately after that, he got the
23:04
Speaker 1: therapist online.
23:05
Speaker 3: What but he did that work. He did that work,
23:08
Speaker 3: and when he showed back up, it was on. Like
23:11
Speaker 3: I had whatever reservations that I had thought about spinning
23:17
Speaker 3: in the block or getting back together with an X,
23:19
Speaker 3: they were just gone.
23:20
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm choosing to do this with you.
23:23
Speaker 4: So what was the moment that it was okay, He's ready? Like,
23:27
Speaker 4: what was it?
23:27
Speaker 3: Or did you just feel I just I just knew.
23:30
Speaker 3: He he came back. We didn't talk for six months.
23:33
Speaker 3: I'm like a no contact kind of person, right.
23:40
Speaker 4: Exactly. He hit me.
23:41
Speaker 3: I told him, I said, don't call me. I said,
23:43
Speaker 3: don't call me about the weather. I said, don't ask
23:45
Speaker 3: me how I'm doing.
23:45
Speaker 4: I'll be fine. But I was like, when you call me,
23:48
Speaker 4: have something to.
23:48
Speaker 1: Say, no.
23:54
Speaker 4: Grandest surmisings queen.
23:57
Speaker 3: No, you know, he just hit me, and he was like,
24:00
Speaker 3: you know, hey, I was just you know, calling to
24:01
Speaker 3: see how you were doing I was like, I told
24:02
Speaker 3: you I'm doing good.
24:03
Speaker 4: You know, I'm doing good cookie, but I had to.
24:10
Speaker 4: I had to. And then finally he hit me.
24:12
Speaker 3: I was in LA, and you know, he was like,
24:15
Speaker 3: he was like, hey, will you have dinner with me?
24:16
Speaker 3: And I was like no, and no, I was I
24:20
Speaker 3: was really trying to. I was trying to. And a
24:22
Speaker 3: friend of mine was like, she was like, you love
24:24
Speaker 3: this person, why don't you just go have dinner with them,
24:26
Speaker 3: like he wants to see you. And so I went
24:28
Speaker 3: and we had dinner, and you know, he he was
24:31
Speaker 3: like hey, Like I was just hoping. He was living
24:33
Speaker 3: in out of state at the time. He was living
24:34
Speaker 3: in Florida and I was living in California, and he
24:36
Speaker 3: was like, you know, He's like, I was wondering if
24:38
Speaker 3: you know you come out and like just you know,
24:40
Speaker 3: hang out with me. And I was like no. I
24:42
Speaker 3: was like I'm not I'm not coming out. And he
24:44
Speaker 3: was like he's like, okay, well then I'm coming back
24:47
Speaker 3: to LA. And so then he came out to LA
24:49
Speaker 3: and this this is like my favorite part of the
24:51
Speaker 3: story because I was like, don't do this, Like I
24:55
Speaker 3: don't do this.
24:56
Speaker 4: If you're not read like for real, like I'm not playing.
24:59
Speaker 3: So then after he's like, I'm coming to LA and
25:01
Speaker 3: he's like, I will be here for three days and
25:04
Speaker 3: he's like, if you will see me, He was like,
25:06
Speaker 3: this is where I'll be and I was like, I'll
25:08
Speaker 3: let you know. And I didn't even And then I
25:10
Speaker 3: called him thirty minutes before and I was like, I'm
25:12
Speaker 3: pulling up in thirty minutes.
25:13
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm here.
25:15
Speaker 3: So he really posted up and when I went there, wait, no, no, no,
25:20
Speaker 3: this was at a hotel. He was at a hotel
25:21
Speaker 3: in LA and I but I was really, I really
25:24
Speaker 3: was like, let me see if you're really about that action.
25:26
Speaker 3: But like I wasn't making it difficult for him. I
25:28
Speaker 3: was just really being firm on my boundaries.
25:30
Speaker 1: Did you know?
25:32
Speaker 3: I did, you know, cause if it's the last time
25:35
Speaker 3: you go to see somebody, you gotta leave the impression.
25:38
Speaker 4: But it wasn't.
25:39
Speaker 3: It really wasn't, and and you know the things that
25:41
Speaker 3: he said, it was just the most genuine. I just
25:45
Speaker 3: knew spirit was like we're aligned here, and I knew
25:48
Speaker 3: that it was it was the right decision for me.
25:51
Speaker 3: I knew that I was going and that's you know,
25:52
Speaker 3: even on the EP, I wrote this song called I
25:54
Speaker 3: Choose You because I think that choice is the greatest
25:57
Speaker 3: thing we have, and when we exercise it in empowerment,
26:00
Speaker 3: it can be so beautiful. And so for me, I
26:03
Speaker 3: was like, all right, I'm going to choose to say
26:05
Speaker 3: yes to this. You're choosing me and I'm choosing you,
26:09
Speaker 3: and we are going to do this together. We know
26:11
Speaker 3: where we've come from, we know what we've been through.
26:13
Speaker 3: With all of that said, let's choose to do this together.
26:17
Speaker 3: And so we did, and in six months I was pregnant.
26:19
Speaker 4: Oh so this is about him. Ye listen, listen, let
26:24
Speaker 4: me tell you something.
26:26
Speaker 3: That moment of us finding out I was pregnant again.
26:29
Speaker 3: Like I didn't think I that wasn't the plan.
26:32
Speaker 4: But it was God's plan.
26:33
Speaker 3: And when I really have like as soon as we
26:36
Speaker 3: got pregnant and then we had our son, I literally.
26:37
Speaker 4: Was just like, oh, this is why.
26:40
Speaker 3: Like I of course we have a beautiful love and
26:42
Speaker 3: life and connection and I really do feel like that
26:45
Speaker 3: is my person.
26:46
Speaker 4: But when we had our son, I literally was like, oh.
26:49
Speaker 3: This, yeah, this little spirit needed us to get our
26:52
Speaker 3: shit together so that he could be here.
26:55
Speaker 5: There's so much that I'm hearing in what you said
26:57
Speaker 5: Number one, The power of intention. Absolutely, you told your homegirl,
27:01
Speaker 5: I need to find my person.
27:04
Speaker 1: The set boundaries find peace feet. The set boundaries find
27:07
Speaker 1: peace part is very important. And you know, just people
27:10
Speaker 1: doing the work and what's for you won't escape you.
27:14
Speaker 3: It's there for you time and time again. You just
27:15
Speaker 3: have to trust the process, you really do. You have
27:18
Speaker 3: to be willing to journey and pay attention and learn
27:22
Speaker 3: and allow yourself to be a student of life. Like truly,
27:26
Speaker 3: like in all the work that I feel like I've
27:27
Speaker 3: done on myself, I'm still learning.
27:30
Speaker 4: I'm still being tested. These kids come along and test you.
27:32
Speaker 3: They show you parts of yourself that you didn't even
27:34
Speaker 3: know you know that you still needed to work on
27:36
Speaker 3: in marriage, even at this time right now, we're both
27:39
Speaker 3: in the busiest seasons of our lives together and that's
27:42
Speaker 3: a challenge, you know, So how do we navigate that
27:45
Speaker 3: we're not the same people we were, We have more responsibilities,
27:48
Speaker 3: more stress, So you know, it's just it's an evolution always.
27:51
Speaker 3: But the intention, the power of intention is everything. We
27:54
Speaker 3: cannot do anything without intention.
27:56
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say that the set and boundaries part, though,
28:00
Speaker 5: just the fact that you were firm in your nose.
28:02
Speaker 1: No one did expound on that. Why is that important?
28:04
Speaker 1: You know?
28:06
Speaker 3: I think for a lot of my life I was
28:07
Speaker 3: a people pleaser, and I think for a lot of
28:10
Speaker 3: my life I felt like I had to be nice
28:12
Speaker 3: and I had to get along and I had to
28:14
Speaker 3: go with the flow and not rock the boat. And
28:17
Speaker 3: I really realized that people you get more by people
28:21
Speaker 3: knowing that you know who you are and that you
28:23
Speaker 3: can't be swayed on that.
28:26
Speaker 4: And I think that no is we.
28:28
Speaker 3: Hear it a complete sentence, you know, and you don't
28:30
Speaker 3: have to be rude about anything like no, thank you, yeah,
28:35
Speaker 3: you know what not At this moment.
28:36
Speaker 4: I appreciate that, but no thank you, I'll pass.
28:38
Speaker 3: Like there's so many ways, you know, that doesn't align
28:41
Speaker 3: with me right now, There's so many ways we can
28:43
Speaker 3: say no. That's still empower us and if you don't
28:46
Speaker 3: want to feel offensive. But the setting boundaries is everything,
28:49
Speaker 3: because again, I think because of the boundaries that I've
28:52
Speaker 3: set for myself in my life, I can now freely
28:55
Speaker 3: say yes and feel like I'm doing it from wisdom,
28:58
Speaker 3: from experience, from divine protect I feel like the universe
29:01
Speaker 3: responds when you operate at a high frequency. And so
29:04
Speaker 3: I know that I've done the work. You cannot get
29:06
Speaker 3: to that free space of saying yes by just being
29:09
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna just say yes to everybody. That's people
29:10
Speaker 3: please intended Yes. The say yes from a point of
29:13
Speaker 3: empowerment comes from setting those boundaries. So they go, they
29:16
Speaker 3: go hand in hand.
29:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, why only six songs all the time?
29:22
Speaker 3: It's not enough, because that's what I got, That's what.
29:29
Speaker 4: I want to like.
29:31
Speaker 3: It's the timeline of your love, like of how you
29:34
Speaker 3: and your husband.
29:35
Speaker 4: Yes, it really is. And you know the thing is
29:37
Speaker 4: is that.
29:40
Speaker 3: We there's there's been so much time between these projects,
29:45
Speaker 3: and I understand that, but you know, six songs are
29:47
Speaker 3: still six songs.
29:49
Speaker 4: It could have been no songs, it really.
29:52
Speaker 3: Could, or it could have been twelve songs. But people
29:55
Speaker 3: only really love six.
29:56
Speaker 1: Just give them.
29:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't really love it. They don't like it.
29:59
Speaker 4: You know, I like it.
30:00
Speaker 3: It's not for everybody, And I think that that's the
30:02
Speaker 3: thing with this project. It's been so long. I wanted
30:04
Speaker 3: to give people something that allows them to I think
30:09
Speaker 3: connect with the foundation I think of who I am,
30:12
Speaker 3: like a like Mona Lisa smile of the project is
30:14
Speaker 3: very much a true Melanie Fiona fan record, like they
30:16
Speaker 3: will love that. But then you know, you got say Yes,
30:20
Speaker 3: which is a completely live song, you know, the version
30:24
Speaker 3: on the project. There's a version on the project that's
30:26
Speaker 3: seven minutes long. You know, it's fully artful, it's transcendent,
30:30
Speaker 3: it's ethereal, it's Andre Harris, Chris Dave, Thundercat, Charlie Burrell
30:35
Speaker 3: and sir like we crafted this. It's art, you know.
30:38
Speaker 3: So these songs are really special to me. L Russell
30:42
Speaker 3: is on the project, the feature. You know, I got
30:44
Speaker 3: James font Leroy on this project.
30:46
Speaker 4: We did this song.
30:46
Speaker 3: So these songs to me are just it's the right
30:51
Speaker 3: offering for right now. And I think that people will
30:53
Speaker 3: enjoy it and they'll want to run it back and
30:55
Speaker 3: listen to it over and over again, because like you said,
30:56
Speaker 3: you give some people twelve songs. People's attention spans are
30:59
Speaker 3: these days.
31:00
Speaker 4: Talk long, yeah, you know what I mean. And so
31:02
Speaker 4: it's been a while.
31:02
Speaker 3: I want to reintroduce and re establish myself, and so
31:05
Speaker 3: I felt like an EP was the best way. And
31:08
Speaker 3: you know, we can move on and make many albums
31:10
Speaker 3: and many songs and many projects.
31:13
Speaker 4: So I'm just not limiting myself. I'm just this is
31:15
Speaker 4: what we got.
31:16
Speaker 1: Well, the inspiration of Mona Lisa Smile. Was it the
31:18
Speaker 1: movie or was it the actual.
31:20
Speaker 3: No, So Mona Lisa's smile came from a place of
31:25
Speaker 3: honestly being a black woman in this world. Mona Lisa smile.
31:29
Speaker 3: You know when you think about the Mona Lisa and
31:30
Speaker 3: nobody ever knows that she's smiling if she's sad, like.
31:32
Speaker 4: We don't know.
31:33
Speaker 3: This very nondescript right exactly, but full right, well she's white, yeah, yes,
31:43
Speaker 3: well we have black Mona Lisa now and she's smiling today.
31:47
Speaker 3: But no, the thing is is that Mona Lisa smile.
31:50
Speaker 3: If you listen to it, it's this like beautiful song
31:52
Speaker 3: that sounds really pretty. It's got this vintage sound. But
31:55
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about is the stress of being in life,
32:00
Speaker 3: in love with somebody. It's just being like, I'm not
32:02
Speaker 3: going anywhere, and I'm going to put my best Mona
32:05
Speaker 3: Lisa smile on because if I love one tier fall,
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Speaker 3: I might fall apart. But as a black woman in
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Speaker 3: this world, as a woman in this world, I have
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Speaker 3: to show up with my head held high.
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Speaker 4: And nobody will know what's going on inside.
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Speaker 3: And that's really what Mona Lisa Smile is that even
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Speaker 3: in that side, it's just like when you're in a
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Speaker 3: relationship with somebody, it's just like, Ooh, I'm gonna just
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Speaker 3: hold it together right now.
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna just hold it together right now. You know.
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Speaker 3: So I really love Mona Lisa Smile that for that reason,
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Speaker 3: because I think it really is the untold story of
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Speaker 3: what so many women carry in their relationships and in
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Speaker 3: their roles in their lives.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Another thing that you've talked about, you know, this conversation
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Speaker 5: that I would love to just expound on is because
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Speaker 5: somebody was up here.
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Speaker 1: I forgot who it was, and they.
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Speaker 5: Were just saying how work life balance does not exist, Like,
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Speaker 5: there's no such thing.
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Speaker 1: It's a lie that we tell ourselves.
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Speaker 5: You're going to give your energy to your family and
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Speaker 5: that that's gonna be, that you're going to give your
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Speaker 5: energy to your work, and that's gonna be that. Like
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Speaker 5: you said earlier, it's not gonna be fifty fifty, it
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Speaker 5: might be ninety ten.
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Speaker 3: Could you just expound on that little Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 3: they say something that I've heard many people says, you
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Speaker 3: can have it all, you just can't have it all
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Speaker 3: at the same time. And so, you know, I think
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Speaker 3: for the well being of ourselves, we have to give
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Speaker 3: ourselves grace to be able to just be like, I
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Speaker 3: want to show up one hundred percent in everything, But
33:21
Speaker 3: all you got to do is show up one hundred
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Speaker 3: percent and where you're at in that moment. If that's
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Speaker 3: cooking dinner, that's what I'm doing today. I'm cooking dinner.
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Speaker 3: I'm doing that. Multitasking is this thing that they've told us,
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Speaker 3: you know, like we it's not actually real. We're not
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Speaker 3: supposed to be able to multitask. Like the only thing
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Speaker 3: we really can do is like talk and look at
33:38
Speaker 3: the same time walk maybe and talk. You know, in
33:41
Speaker 3: order to be present and really great at something, you
33:43
Speaker 3: really do have to give it your full attention, parenting, marriage,
33:46
Speaker 3: all of these things. So you can only do that
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Speaker 3: in certain times of your day. You know, I don't
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Speaker 3: know how many hours Beyonce has because they said, you know,
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Speaker 3: she got more than twenty four hours because she'd be
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Speaker 3: getting done. But you know, in my twenty four hour day,
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Speaker 3: I just do the best I can in the moment,
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Speaker 3: you know, right, now I'm not checking on my kids.
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Speaker 4: Yeah I can't. I'm here.
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Speaker 3: So you just have to give yourself the grace to
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Speaker 3: just say, like I said, sometimes it's ninety, sometimes it's ten.
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Speaker 3: Just do the best every day, one hundred percent. And
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Speaker 3: if you and if you're and if you're a hundred percent.
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Speaker 3: See we don't do have little lips.
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Speaker 4: But she is smiling. Once I zoomed all the way
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Speaker 4: in Melanie.
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Speaker 5: Does about how you focus your heads.
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Speaker 3: Right, And I had no idea that she was really smiling.
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Speaker 3: So what is she looking at?
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Speaker 4: What is she is?
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Speaker 1: She?
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Speaker 4: Is she stoic? Is she happy? Is she said? We
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Speaker 4: don't know what her I say, I say that she is.
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Speaker 1: Said, we don't even know if that's a woman. We
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Speaker 1: do it.
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Speaker 4: And that's the thing. There's so much conversation about the moment. Yes, yeah,
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Speaker 4: see no, there are things pieces about it. There are
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Speaker 4: like people who are just like, we don't.
34:48
Speaker 3: Know his name is Mona, not Malcolm, She's well fly
34:53
Speaker 3: not Malcolm.
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Speaker 4: Sad woman.
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Speaker 1: Can we get into a joint off the EP? What
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Speaker 1: you want to hear?
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Speaker 4: Yes, say yes, you can't feel that what you because
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Speaker 4: you got some upbeat stuff on it to have some upbeat.
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, this this is tricky.
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Speaker 1: It's six songs, yo.
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Speaker 4: Let's do it that Temple one, run it. What are
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Speaker 4: we gonna do? What's the name of it? We're gonna do,
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Speaker 4: We're gonna do. Make me feel Featured in l russell
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Speaker 4: Summer Bot.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Guy Russell, loved Russell. Let's get into it right now.
35:31
Speaker 2: And we appreciate you for joining us year stranger.
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Speaker 3: Never, I won't be, don't I won't be. I really
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Speaker 3: won't be. New York always has a special place in
35:39
Speaker 3: my heart. So I'm just happy to be back here.
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Speaker 4: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: And I got to tune into your podcast, girl, Yes
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Speaker 3: and mimmy stuff.
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Speaker 4: Let's have you on it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, next time you're in l A, please come through. Okay,
35:48
Speaker 3: we can talk about all the things. Thank and he
35:50
Speaker 3: is a safe space, absolutely appreciates all.
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Speaker 2: Right, it's the breakfast Club is Melanie fie Ony, Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club