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Almost Famous OGs: Back to the Beginning with Shannon Oliver · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio. Hey, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to Almost Famous the Ogs. Bob Guiney here with
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  Speaker 1: the beautiful Trista Stutter. Trista.
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  Speaker 2: Who do we got on the show today?
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  Speaker 3: We have Shannon Oliver, who I am so excited to
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  Speaker 3: talk to. If you don't remember that name, she was
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  Speaker 3: on the very first Bachelor with me. She was I
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  Speaker 3: think we were roommates actually, and then she got to
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  Speaker 3: be part of Bachelorette too, So we're gonna we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: hear what's up with her, what's up with her life,
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  Speaker 3: if she still watches the show, what she loved about
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  Speaker 3: being on the show, all that good stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So excited.
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  Speaker 3: I love Shannon, I know, same, same. So let's bring
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  Speaker 3: in Shannon. Hi, Bob, how are you today? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Sutter?
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  Speaker 2: I'm great? Thank you?
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  Speaker 3: Hey.
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  Speaker 1: I like your new background.
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  Speaker 2: Where are you? Where are you going from?
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  Speaker 3: This is my dining room, kitchen's over here, living room,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just trying to change it up here she
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  Speaker 3: has We've got she Oliver Oliver. Everybody, you don't age,
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  Speaker 3: you don't don't.
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  Speaker 4: Guys, stop it. I literally was trying to think back
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  Speaker 4: to how old I was, and I was like, oh
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  Speaker 4: my gosh, no, I can't. I can't even go that
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  Speaker 4: far back.
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to back to how old I was.
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  Speaker 3: I love the way you put that.
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  Speaker 1: I try to forget how old I am pretty much
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  Speaker 1: daily and at my age, I do forget those things.
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  Speaker 1: I forget where my car keys are, where my car is,
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  Speaker 1: where I live.
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  Speaker 2: Who I am?
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  Speaker 4: How old is your youngest?
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  Speaker 1: He is two and a half, he'll be three. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I guess he's two and three quarters. He'll be three
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  Speaker 1: in July.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so you win. You have the youngest child out
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  Speaker 4: of all of us.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure out of me for next week.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I love it. You're born to be
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  Speaker 1: a mom.
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  Speaker 2: You're so.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you are just such a great personality
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  Speaker 1: and demeanor and temperament and everything to be such a
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  Speaker 1: great mom.
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  Speaker 4: My kids might disagree with you.
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  Speaker 3: No, So for those of you who do not remember,
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  Speaker 3: Shannon was on the very first Bachelor season with me,
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  Speaker 3: and we have remained friends since. She's actually come out
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  Speaker 3: to Colorado with her family. I got to meet Did
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  Speaker 3: I meet both boys?
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  Speaker 1: Then?
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  Speaker 3: Were they both born?
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  Speaker 4: I just had Jack?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? Yes, Okay, so we've stayed in touch, and as
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  Speaker 3: I've said on here numerous times, I feel like the
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  Speaker 3: connections to the people who have been on the show
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  Speaker 3: are you know. I mean, obviously I met my husband
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  Speaker 3: and that's pretty pretty amazing. But the connections that I
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  Speaker 3: may have made with other people are you know, a
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  Speaker 3: close second. And so that includes you obviously, Shannon. But
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  Speaker 3: it's been a while. We haven't seen each other.
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  Speaker 4: It's been way too long. So funny, you know, schools
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  Speaker 4: have mystery readers and so you always like take your
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  Speaker 4: kid's favorite books up there. Jack always wants me to
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  Speaker 4: take that book that you gave him and you had
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  Speaker 4: like the artists like draw picture, sign it. That's when
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  Speaker 4: I was a boy. When I was a boy, I dreamed.
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  Speaker 4: Is what it's called speakers Now send it? Yes, Oh
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  Speaker 4: my gosh, it's funny. I send that to almost everyone. Bob,
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  Speaker 4: I have to send it to you too. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if I if I sent you one, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: Say I would say you didn't, because no one sends
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  Speaker 1: me anything. As we've we've talked about this week. A
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  Speaker 1: few times people come on the show and they were like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, promoting their book, and Trista will go I
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  Speaker 1: will tell you I read it. I love it. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for having sent it to me, autographed
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  Speaker 1: with a five hundred dollars bill in it. And I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's so weird because I I must have gotten left
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  Speaker 1: off that mailing list again, got it?
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  Speaker 3: No, I this is not my book. This is just
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  Speaker 3: a book that I sent to Shannon when she had
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  Speaker 3: Jack so very nice, so I need to send you
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  Speaker 3: to you. It's amazing. But that makes me so happy
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  Speaker 3: that he picks book.
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  Speaker 4: I love it, loves it. I mean still so Bob,
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  Speaker 4: your kids would love it too. They're like, it's the
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  Speaker 4: perfect ages for this book.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would.
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  Speaker 1: Love that they you know, I would love to have
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  Speaker 1: something to read them, given the fact that today this
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  Speaker 1: is going to show the shortcomings of me as a dad.
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  Speaker 1: Uh you know, my wife's out of town. So I
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  Speaker 1: had to get the voice ready for school this morning.
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  Speaker 1: And it's Show and Tell day, and it always goes
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  Speaker 1: by the alphabet, you know, and so Grace and.
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  Speaker 2: Says Daddy, today's end.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, okay, en, And I'm looking around
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  Speaker 1: the house and I.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, here we go. Perfect.
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  Speaker 1: I threw a box and Nilla wafers in his bag
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  Speaker 1: and I go this, this is excellent.
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  Speaker 2: It kills two birds with one stone.
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  Speaker 1: Buddy. You take this in, you hold it up, and
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  Speaker 1: then you give it out.
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  Speaker 2: As your snack.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. She's going to be a hero for the day.
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  Speaker 2: This is how dad brains work.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Either a fistful of Nichols or it's a Nilla.
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  Speaker 3: Wafers Nickles, Well you mentioned it. Shannon was meant to
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  Speaker 3: be a and has since after Jack had another boy.
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  Speaker 3: She's a boy mom. But you do it so well
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  Speaker 3: for anyone who wants another follow on Instagram. Follow Shannon
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  Speaker 3: for all of her stuff, Like you not only work,
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  Speaker 3: but you are like, go get her fundraiser. It seems
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  Speaker 3: like either for school or community and super involved in
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  Speaker 3: your school obviously mom and doing all the things at home.
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  Speaker 3: How do you do it?
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  Speaker 4: Asking me this and like behind my phone all I
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  Speaker 4: see is like yellow and blue. It is a sea
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  Speaker 4: of minions Cooper's birthday party. Like as a boy, I
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  Speaker 4: wanted a girl, like I'm very girly all of everything,
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  Speaker 4: gurly tea parties. And when I found out we were
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  Speaker 4: pregnant with Jack, I actually cried. I cried sat tears
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  Speaker 4: because he put the boy and not a girl, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't even the boy for me. I
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  Speaker 4: got boys that let me indulge in all of my
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  Speaker 4: party planning.
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  Speaker 3: And they not.
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  Speaker 4: Only let me indulge, but they embrace it. So Cooper's
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  Speaker 4: turned into party diva. He like, so, Mom, what party
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  Speaker 4: prep did you do last night? Granted, he's turning four
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  Speaker 4: parties in a park and I feel like I should
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  Speaker 4: have just rented out a venue at this point because
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  Speaker 4: he keeps adding everything to it. We've got Minion's popsicles today,
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  Speaker 4: he woke up and he was like, I want a
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  Speaker 4: snowcone truck.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, we.
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  Speaker 4: Already popsicles, we don't need a snowcone truck, and like,
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  Speaker 4: but that would work on today, mom.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh my god, I love that.
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  Speaker 2: He said, what party prep have you done?
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  Speaker 3: Mom?
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk.
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  Speaker 4: Not my mom, No, Mom, it's like, what did you
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  Speaker 4: do last night for my party?
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  Speaker 1: A little notebook? You know, Mom, I'm going over my
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  Speaker 1: notes and the party prep seems to be lacking this year.
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  Speaker 1: Uh that's funny, Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: You know, my my my wife is a boy mom. Also,
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  Speaker 2: of course, we have two boys.
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  Speaker 1: And we're five and two and a half are the ages,
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  Speaker 1: and she's kind of you know, I think I think
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  Speaker 1: it sort of comes with the territory for people, because
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  Speaker 1: you know, you you and she have very like similar
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  Speaker 1: you know, very organized and very well like everything's put together,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, just very sweet and kind people, and
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  Speaker 1: so she is always.
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  Speaker 2: On the party uh planning tip as well.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why I felt like such a loser today
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  Speaker 1: when I was like getting him ready for school and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, my wife would have had like a duffel
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  Speaker 1: bag full of accouterments, and on snack day it would
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  Speaker 1: not have been the show and tell item also being
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  Speaker 1: dispersed as a snack. It would have been like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, it would have been nutella. If that's
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  Speaker 1: even allowed in a school. I don't know, because I'm
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  Speaker 1: a dad, right, but if it.
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  Speaker 2: Were not, probably not. It's something with any newt in it,
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  Speaker 2: So not.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, So Shannon, you mentioned that you're you know,
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  Speaker 3: a girly girl, and what I remember and I want
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  Speaker 3: you to share one of your favorite memories from the Bachelor,
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  Speaker 3: But one of the big things that I remember is
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  Speaker 3: being in the living room of the Bachelor. I guess
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  Speaker 3: the mansion that we lived in. It wasn't the mansion
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  Speaker 3: that they have now, of course, but when we had
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  Speaker 3: that and we got the date box. Back then it
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  Speaker 3: was a date box, right, And we got a box
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  Speaker 3: and all of us are huddled around this velvet, this
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  Speaker 3: beautiful velvet. I don't I don't know if it was
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  Speaker 3: a box or an envelope at this point, but it
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  Speaker 3: had an HW on it and everyone is like, hwhw.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like Harry starting, I'm figured it out,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my gosh, who's going on
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  Speaker 3: a date that revolves around Harry Winston? Ama Shannon. She
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  Speaker 3: got the very first of anyone of anyone on a
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  Speaker 3: franchise princess date. So amazing. That was one of my
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  Speaker 3: favorite like memories, and of course I was super jealous.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone was fair. That was an amazing date. And I think,
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  Speaker 4: like you, and to come from such a different place
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  Speaker 4: because everything was brand new, like we never knew what
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  Speaker 4: was next. We literally had no clue and like you said,
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  Speaker 4: you know it used to be a box, like yes,
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  Speaker 4: you I remember for my overnight date. I think when
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  Speaker 4: there was four of us left. I got this huge
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  Speaker 4: gold box and it was full of like fake snow
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  Speaker 4: and ear muffs. Like that's how they told us what
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  Speaker 4: we were going to do, and now they get like
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  Speaker 4: it's totally different. But I kept that stuff for the
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  Speaker 4: longest time. I think I finally got I still have it?
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  Speaker 1: Do you?
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  Speaker 4: I still have you? I have my Harry Winston box?
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  Speaker 4: Because that was pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Where did you go you went to obviously you went
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  Speaker 3: to Harry Winston, but didn't you get like dressed up
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  Speaker 3: in dresses? Didn't you get to pick out a gown?
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  Speaker 4: I think it was a scatta. I don't even know
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  Speaker 4: if that's still in business.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, Oh it was so much fun. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So what was one of your favorite memories from the show.
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  Speaker 4: I think, oh my gosh, I mean, to pick one
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  Speaker 4: would be near impossible. But like you said, like it
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  Speaker 4: was like we I don't even think, like now people
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  Speaker 4: know what to expect, Like you have a total different
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  Speaker 4: framework going into the show now than we did back then.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't even know what was going to happen in
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  Speaker 4: five minutes, let alone for the whole entire six weeks
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  Speaker 4: that we were gone. I think is that we did
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  Speaker 4: become friends in that environment. Now, I think it's easier
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  Speaker 4: because they know the whole deal, Like the guy's gonna pick,
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  Speaker 4: Like you are probably gonna go on Bachelor in Paradise
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  Speaker 4: with most of the people in the house. You might
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  Speaker 4: as well get to know them cause you're gonna have
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  Speaker 4: be with them again.
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  Speaker 2: Like none of that.
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  Speaker 4: So the fact that all of us became friends and
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  Speaker 4: stayed friends, I think says a lot that you know,
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  Speaker 4: we really just in it for the guy. Back then,
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  Speaker 4: you're not in it trying to get Instagram followers, trying
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  Speaker 4: to get like some you know, product sponsorships. Gosh, can
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  Speaker 4: you imagine if that was around back then, Trista, you'd
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  Speaker 4: be like a billionaire.
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  Speaker 1: I know, right, we would if you So when when
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  Speaker 1: Sally Anne later went on to create Jersey Shore, and
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  Speaker 1: I remember saying to her one time, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: if you would have monetized us the way you monetized
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  Speaker 1: the Jersey Shore people, we would all.
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  Speaker 2: Be in a pretty good spot.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It was crazy, but yeah, you're absolutely right. No, there
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  Speaker 1: was there was no social media back then. What would
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  Speaker 1: we have done?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, and even the whole like remember, Trista,
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  Speaker 4: do you remember this? Like we had a notebook and
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  Speaker 4: we passed the notebook secretly around and everyone wrote their
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  Speaker 4: phone numbers in it so we could Yes, I think
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  Speaker 4: I still have that. Actually, ill to go.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I want to see it.
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  Speaker 4: So I remember afterwards like it was very weird. They're like,
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  Speaker 4: you can't talk to anyone about this, like no one can,
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  Speaker 4: and they threatened, like they threatened us to like our
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  Speaker 4: lives ending if we told anyone. So I was there
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  Speaker 4: to even tell my family, and I Trista and I
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  Speaker 4: became friends, and I was like, I'm just going to
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  Speaker 4: reach out to Trista.
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  Speaker 3: I have her phone number.
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  Speaker 4: No one knew I had her phone number, so I
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  Speaker 4: called and I left a message on your answering machine
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  Speaker 4: because we didn't even have help.
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  Speaker 1: We are so, oh my gosh, you couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: I I can picture it right now too, my answering machine.
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  Speaker 3: That is so funny.
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  Speaker 4: I think that maybe it was your mom or someone
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  Speaker 4: her message and they told Legal that I had reached out,
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  Speaker 4: and Legal called me and they were like, maybe it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't your mom some somehow.
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  Speaker 3: Like my mom wouldn't have done that.
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  Speaker 4: But no, it wasn't your mom, but maybe they told
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  Speaker 4: me was your mom, because you know how how that works,
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  Speaker 4: so like we know, yeah, right, so they were threatening
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  Speaker 4: me with legal action, and now I feel everyone to talk.
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  Speaker 4: They want little spoilers to get out.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I remember that that time was so different.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I was right after you guys, and of course,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I got a little bit of legal wrangling
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  Speaker 1: for having a record deal. When I went on the show,
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  Speaker 1: I already had a record deal. And now they bring
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  Speaker 1: people on there and they're like, you know, Serenader with
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  Speaker 1: your guitar, Jimmy and all these guys go on the
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  Speaker 1: show and they're like all of a sudden, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even sing on the show, Like what are
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  Speaker 1: guys talking about?
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  Speaker 2: But it was crazy.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know you got in trouble for that or like.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we'll talk.
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  Speaker 1: Well you can talk offline about that one, but it
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  Speaker 1: was major.
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  Speaker 4: I have no Well that is it's a different, totally
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  Speaker 4: different show, totally different.
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  Speaker 1: With social they don't even take the phones away. Now
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  Speaker 1: they want everyone posting, you know, if they're on a
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  Speaker 1: group date and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, but I think I think they still take their
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  Speaker 3: phones away, because I just read that Maria, who was
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  Speaker 3: on Joey's season, this most recent one, she was asked
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  Speaker 3: to be bachelorette and she one of her demands was
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  Speaker 3: who knows if this is srue or not? Of course right,
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  Speaker 3: So one of her demands supposedly was that she wanted
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  Speaker 3: to keep her phone. So I know that they they
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  Speaker 3: take away their phones, but what they do is they
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  Speaker 3: give them or producers take pictures with their phones, or
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  Speaker 3: they get like I don't know if they get like
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  Speaker 3: some kind of like disposable or something like that where
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  Speaker 3: they have them take pictures. I know, I know that much.
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  Speaker 3: They definitely don't have their phones, but what they do
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  Speaker 3: have is direct access to everybody who has an Instagram account,
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  Speaker 3: because all you have to do is DM somebody and
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  Speaker 3: you can read and you can look out. So we
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  Speaker 3: had no way of getting in touch with each other
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  Speaker 3: except for writing and in our little Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 3: that is hysterical. So do you think, Shannon, that you
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  Speaker 3: would be able because I have been asked this question
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  Speaker 3: if social media had been around back then, would I've
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  Speaker 3: still done the show? And I don't know if I
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  Speaker 3: would have because I am so super freaking sensitive that
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that I could take all of the
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  Speaker 3: judgment that strangers just like to spew, you know, what's up.
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  Speaker 4: For the message boards? ABC used to have like chat boards,
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  Speaker 4: and that broke me. And I can't remember's name. Shoot,
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  Speaker 4: I'm totally blinking. I could have told you if I
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  Speaker 4: wasn't trying to tell you. But anyway, I was like
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  Speaker 4: taking me the airport. She was like, whatever you do,
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  Speaker 4: just don't get online and don't read like message boards.
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  Speaker 4: Just don't read them. She was like, stay away from them.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, then I got home, like.
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  Speaker 2: What's the best. That's what I did too. They're like,
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  Speaker 2: don't look at the message boards.
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  Speaker 1: I dove in beside, I didn't even know there was
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  Speaker 1: a message.
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  Speaker 3: Human worship you're going to do that?
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  Speaker 1: And Shannon, if you're anything like like I know, Tristan,
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  Speaker 1: I've had this conversation before. But you would see like
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: a million nice things, right, and you'd be like, oh,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: that's nice, that's nice. Then one person would be like,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't like her.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Banks, what are wrong with my banks?
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: You know? Or like for me it would be like
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I don't like his laugh, What the hell was wrong
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: with my laugh. I can't change my laugh. I mean,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: it was like I would obsess about the mean stuff
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: and not even recognize all the nice stuff, you know.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent, which is so sad. It's those
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: little tiny and then my caps were fat. I mean
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: just like it's like, okay, but you and now looking back, obviously,
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: like we were all a lot younger when we did this,
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: and that felt you felt it a lot more. I
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: don't know what else to say.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Older.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Now I have like a bigger reference point. I've got children,
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: like I feel differently about things in life than but
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: that was all I had back then.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: And like you said before, there was nothing like it previously.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: So it's the first time that someone I mean, I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: remember having this conversation with a friend of mine who
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: was on was one of the executive editors of US Weekly,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: and they would just do all these kind of like
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: what we would now call clickbait, right, but they would
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: like make statements on the cover and I'm back to
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: my normal life. You know. The show hasn't even aired yet,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, at Kroger and I'm like
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: seeing a cover of a magazine with my face on it,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: and they're like saying mean things about me. I'm like,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: what what's going on? You know, you weren't ready to
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: be plucked from obscurity and then all of a sudden
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: be someone who is being put under a magnifying glass
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: and just dissected.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: By all these people behind a keyboard. You know, It's
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: just it was tough. You weren't prepared.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and now girls have a problem with like something
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: that happens or the format of the show. I'm like,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: well you should know better, like what are we on,
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: like season twenty eight or something.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Don't be stupid and don't act like you've never in
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: the show.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't know I was going to come
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: on and someone else.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: But you're not going to do your research and actually
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: watch the show before, even if you've never watched it before.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: You're not applying to be on the show if you've
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: never watched it before.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Absolutely Yeah. And you know the way it works too.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: You know there's thirty people dating the same dude or
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: thirty guys dating.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: The same girl for that first night.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: It's like, come on, man, you know, and if you
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: can't handle it, but you know what, I think that's
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: a play too, though, Shannon.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of these people go on the show.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: And say that so they get the attention for it,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: and then they you know, now they're like, okay, and
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: now now I've got something to you know, beat the
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: drum too. I'm the first one that said it, just
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: like the whole you know, I'm not here to make
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: friends thing became a thing right and it was like all.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: It's like, what are you there for? Like what are
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: the right reasons they go on a dating game show?
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're there to potentially meet somebody, but ultimately,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: wouldn't it be great to meet thirty people from across
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the country that you would have never met otherwise?
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Awesome?
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: I like, yeah, that's my favorite part from ours is
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: like us because we still have that. I still tell
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: a lot from the first season and I don't feel
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, now how many people have been on The Bachelor,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: like eight million, because there's been so many, but someone
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: understood and you could never understand if you hadn't itself.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: And so we had aized together, you know, like we
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: went through the situation that no one would get if
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: you hadn't done it. So I think that helped us
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: like bond together too, because we got it, like and
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: we got the mean messages and oh my gosh, like
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: all those auction like the Bachelor auctions that they would
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: do after the show. Yeah, well maybe you didn't because
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: you went right onto the Bachelorette. But for those of
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: us who weren't, like they would, like Chris Harrison's mom
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: even did one where you would go and someone would
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: pay a lot of money to this charity and then
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: y'all would go on like a group dinner together like
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: it wasn't any.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right, did you do that?
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: We I met a ton of people from the other
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: seasons after us, from those because they would do like us,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: and then the second season us in the.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Third season, so that like and it put on by
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: ABC people, by the producers, like they would coordinate it.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: It was put on by like charities people trying to
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: raise money.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's great. They should do that now. I mean,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: the charities would make a whole lot of money if
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: they did that with all kinds of reality shows.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: They'd make a lot more now than because there was
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: no way to really promote them before. It was just
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: like locals, you know, for the people who would write yeah.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my gosh, that's so funny. I mean, I
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: know that we had little reunions like Jesse Sinsak, I
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: feel like planned so many of those, and I feel
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: like we went to a couple right you did, didn't
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: you go?
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Right?
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: It was a Colorado RT your person rage right.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Yes, and we had the spa day and then the chef.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, wasn't there one on a cruise ship?
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I remember there being one on a cruise ship that
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I wanted to go on and I couldn't go.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, plenty of that.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: I think there was.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: I feel like multiple, yeah, right, Oh my gosh, that's
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: so yeah. Who do you still stay in touch with?
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: I had to like scan my brain. I'm like, Jesse,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: who's Jesse?
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: I know, Jesse the honest person. Yeah.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: I think he did one in Vegas.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: We did well. The first one was in Vegas. I
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: remember the first one. That's when I met That's when
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I met you, Shannon was.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I met everybody at that first one in Vegas at
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the hard Rock you met.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: She met you on my season?
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I know, but it.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Was this was while I was off the Bachelorette. But
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor your season of the wait. I was, oh,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: that's right, I didn't even.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Because you were not you. We like, you weren't part
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: of Bachelor Nation until my season. So he doesn't remember
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: or has it watched it in a long time. They
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: let me, and I feel like they should still do
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: this to this day. This is like my biggest advice
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: to them is to have friends come in for the
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: lead and help them through it. So it was Sarah,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: my best friend from college, mis see my best friend
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: from grad school Shannon, and oh gosh, who am I missing?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: There was Oh no that it was just the three
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: of you guys, remember, then came in and got to
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: like pick out dates and hang out in the house. Right,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: you guys, did you live in the house with the boys?
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think so, I feel they did.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: We didn't know where they were because we I mean
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I remember thinking, I remember thinking, I wonder where they
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: all went, because I thought we thought you went back
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: to download.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: So late at night, and we were like, like you
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: were gone on a date, but we were there like
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: partying with the rest of the guys because something with
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: dog food.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know Jamie blythe Jamie Yeah, that was Oh
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: my god, that is the Faithful Night when Tricia the
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: faithful Night, I guess it would be when Trista came
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: home and was mad at me, and that was because
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: they made me. So we played the Sentry Club and
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: we were all doing one hundred shots of beer in
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: a hundred minutes, and Text threw his first can up
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: on the roof because we had that kind of like
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: weird roof, and so we all started throwing the cans
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: on the roof, and then as Trista's pulling up, they
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: come up to me. They throw an apron on me,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: hand me a broom and a ladder, and they go,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you got to go on the roof and clean all
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the cans up. I'm like I do, and I'm like, yeah, God,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't throw any cansler. They're like, it's okay, you're
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: it was your idea for this party. So I go
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: on the roof. I'm sweeping cans off. I still have
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: on my bathing suit and apron, and Trista comes in
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and she's like, hmm, why is it when I go
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: on a date and you and I'd been on a
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: group date with her. I come back and everyone was
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: like asleep and reading the Bible and I go on
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: a date without you and I come back and it's
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: a frat party gone sideways, and I'm.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Like, what what's going on here?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Like they totally set me up to take the fall.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I remember it.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, no, I was not mad. I couldn't.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: I couldn't have been mad at that.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: You were you were you were giggling through it, and
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: that's why I knew, like I knew, you know, And
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, all right, I get it.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't be mad at you for that. I'd
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: love And then when my friends got to come in
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: and actually like hang out with you, and give me
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: the scoop because they hung out with you. It wasn't
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: like at your house, you know. It wasn't like they
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: were coming in just being present at like a bar
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: that they had a date at. Like you guys got
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: to really truly like get to know them, which I love.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: It was so interesting though. So we went in and
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: we legit like we interviewed every guy there well, and
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: we were like, we were like, We'resa's future husband. So
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: we we had big pow wows. We talked about all
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: the guys and we figured out the ones that we
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: wanted to go on, like the one on ones with you,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: and then we went back and told the producers and
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: they're like like, no, you shouldn't send her with that one.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you remember who it was?
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Oh? I mean that was like twenty years ago, so no,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I'm not remembering something that they said that he said
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: something while he was in the bathroom and they heard
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: it on his mic, like he was there to promote
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: his music career or something.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: But we never do you remember that? Yeah, Greg, I'm sure.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: Greg, Thank you, Bob. Yeah, So we were going to
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: pick him as one of your guys to go on
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: one time and.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: They're like, uh huh, don't pick So he was the
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: one that went. We went to New York. I'm trying
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: to find a picture of the four of us. Was
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: one that was in New York a tiny, small apartment
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: and everyone like made a big deal out of it
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: when like, honestly, it wasn't like that big of a
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: deal because we were we were young, he was living
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: in New York, he was a musician, like whatever, It
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: was not a big deal. But of course they made
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: a huge deal out of it, and they were like, oh,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Trista has to have like more than a teeny tiny
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: apartment with the whatever I'm like, don't make me out
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: to be high maintenance when I'm not. Okay, this is
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: this was I don't know if you can see it,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: but on my fortieth birthday. Remember look at that advice
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: look out that was during the show. And then this
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: was in my mansion. I think you guys came over
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: to the mansion the girls here it is, Yes, it
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: is in the mansion. Remember those like flowers that they
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: had everywhere? Look at the floors, do you remember the floors?
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Did this bring you back?
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Bob?
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: And like the red Belty, Oh my gosh, isn't that amazing?
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: And my big long hair extensions.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: You like showed us your wardrobe and I was like Christa,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: and it was of clothes.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: It was amazing. And then they sold them. But we
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: don't have to talk about that anyway. So we've talked
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: enough about my season. I would love to know, like,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: how how is life, how is justin? How is life
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: with the boys? What does your daily life look like?
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: And what are you up to?
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: It's honestly, it's so great. Like I joke about wanting
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: a girl so bad and being sad. But I was
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: meant to be a boy mom, Like these kids are
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: like they're my world. And and I think if I
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: had a girl, it would have been bad news, Like
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: I would have been like the worst helicopter mom over
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: a girl. But with the boys, you just have to
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: let them go. I mean, you have one of those.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: So every kid is different, but boys are wild and
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: they need to be free, and that's probably better for me.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Otherwise I would be like right there like all the time. Yeah,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: my boys, Oh bye, you stay here, we're going. But
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: it's great, Justin it's funny. So Ryan's out of town,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Bob's wives out of town, and Justin's out of town.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Oh that's funny.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: They're all well, really good work. But yeah he's out
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: of the cops. Yes, we're all seeing with parents.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all parenting. But it's great. We live in this
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: tiny little community that is like Pleasantville. It's just great.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Like there's I'm sure, like you were saying on social media.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: We've got huge events for Easter and Halloween and Christmas,
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: I mean every holiday. And it's just great for me
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: to be somewhere where my kids can just like have
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: a place to just enjoy life. You know, I tell
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: him all the time, you only how lucky you are
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: to live here with all of this like fun. It's
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: just fun, like everything fun.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Is this the house that flooded and you fixed it
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: up because your house got demolished and the yes, what
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: was that like Harvey?
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: What year was it? That was probably six years ago
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: or seven. That was during Harvey. So we just had Jack.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: He was like ten months old. We lived in a
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: little nineteen sixties like cute little house that we loved,
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: but it needed more space. Like the laundry room was
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: in a closet. I was like, I need like a
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: room like with a kid, you know, couldn't like for
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: us to do the clothes. So we were going to
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: add on a laundry room and then a room for
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Jack on top of it. And we moved out on Monday.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Harvey hit Friday. Our househouse that we had just moved
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: out of, flooded that Saturday. The next day, our rental
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: house that we moved into flooded Wednesday. And then we
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: had a weekend cabin on a river like an hour south.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: But all of the floodwater from Houston flooded down the river,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: So then that house flooded the following friday. So we
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: had three houses flood in one week.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Stop it. I don't remember like all you were going through,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: but that is so much, so much crazy. And Jack,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: was you feel like it made your your marriage stronger?
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Or did you guys stroll in those times? You honestly
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: like situations like that will make or break you. And
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: if we had only house flood.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: We may not abade it. But we had three, and
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: we had to find somewhere to live, and we had
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: to like we were constantly like working on everything, and
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: so you just had to like put your head down.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: And the hardest thing about that was my neighborhood over
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: ninety percent of the house is flooded because we back
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: up to it. By you were just like a bunch
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: of cold desat by you, and so just got to
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: the next neighborhood up they didn't flood, And so it's
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: like our world was turned upside down, but all of
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: your friends and everyone that you know just went back
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: to normal really quickly. That was the hardest part, was
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: like being in this like devastating place, but like just
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: if you literally went like five houses north of where
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: we are, everything was normal. So it was a rough
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: couple of years just with the newborn and trying to
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: figure out where to live. We moved. I think we
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: moved five or six times and three years.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. Yeah, that place that the places that
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: flooded are no longer yours, like you you're completely yeah,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: got it. I'm sorry. Just his internet just went out,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: so I know, be back.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: So this house like where this was, that's where our
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: house was, but it was completely totaled. So we had
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: the structure to do the add on. And he came
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: back after and our wood floors like they peaked up
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: when they swelled, but they also pushed out, so they
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: pushed our exterior walls off the slab and then all
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: the brick collapsed because there was nothing underneath to hold
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: the brick up.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was crazy.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: So you completely like just leveled it and started over.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we had he said, the head left was the slab.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: But I'm like, if we're rebuilding, we're not building at
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: this level, Like we're gonna build up so where the
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: flood was just in case, and I don't think we'll
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: ever flood again. Harvey was just a crazy, crazy like
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: probably once in a lifetime storm, but if you've got
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: to spend redo it. We just built up.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: But they're good.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Your home looks beautiful from where we are, and I'm
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: sure it's beautiful everywhere else with all of the Minion
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: stuff everywhere.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Like die if you saw what I see right now.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. We actually had a
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Minion party for Max when he was I don't know,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: probably around Jack's age. So much fun, so much Okay.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: That Denver, Like, how is Denver? I haven't moved?
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did. So. Ryan was commuting from Vail to
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Denver for three years, I think, and that you know
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: that drive because you've done it before, but it's like
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: a two hour drive and it was a lot. And
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: then Max asked he wanted to change schools just to
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: have an elevated academic and athletic experience. And we go
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: to a they're at a Christian school now and they've
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: got you know, the faith based stuff, which is really
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: kind of like makes my mom's heart just feel good
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: about the education they're getting because I've kind of failed
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: them as a as a Christian mom. I just, you know,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know about you guys, but I grew up Catholic,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: and I went to Sunday school every Sunday, right, and
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: and just learned a lot. Well, I just I didn't
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: do a lot of that for my kids. So the
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: fact that they're learning kind of more really about just
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: how to be a good person, you know, makes my
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: heart happy, makes me feel good place. So for a
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: lot of reasons. All of those. Plus Ryan's parents live
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: like five minutes away from us, and so we wanted
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: to be nearer them as they get a little bit older.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: There's a great dance studio for Blakesley. Just lots of
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: opportunity and lots of targets. So that's good.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: So you're shopping a lot.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: That's good.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: That's really good.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, And the mall, I mean we didn't have those
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: in Vail.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: No, I would forget like five minutes before I logged
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: in here.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: It's in there.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: It's an amazing convenience to have. So for lots of
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: good reasons. But yeah, it's going well. We of course
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: miss the mountains, but we're hoping to get back there
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: at some point and just you know, visit our friends
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: whenever we can. So yeah, it's good, it's good. I
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: have to visit. The next time you're coming through, make
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: sure you come. Just let me know if you're flying
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: into Denver, because I'd love to sk you, I know,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: and I.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Expears to become a hotbed for bachelor people too.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: True. Yes, there are a lot of people. Ben Higgins
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: is here. He's not in Denver proper anymore, but he's here.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: And then Blake's uh Portsman I think is his last name.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: He just had a baby. I heard with Gianna from
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Organ from Love Is Blind. Have you guys watch that show?
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, I've never seen the show, but I've met Gannina
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and Blake, so yeah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so there here I have I knowl Lace is here.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: She just had a baby too late. Lace had a baby.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I saw her when she was pregnant. We
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: did this jewelry store like photo shoot thing and uh,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: she was there and she was about ready to pop.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: She looked beautiful. Yes, good. So do you still watch
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: the show, Shannon?
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: Of course? I mean, don't we all. It's like, once
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: you're in, you've gotta like just it's like you're in
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: for life.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: That's how I feel.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I know that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I know a lot of people don't feel that way.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: But especially like this season, I feel like probably got
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: people back on on boat. Like Mollie Mesnik. She has
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: specifically said she met Joey at the Golden Wedding and
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: she watched her his season because she met him, and
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: then she's like, now I'm hooked, Like this was a
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: great season to get I meet.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Him at the I didn't meet Joey at the Golden Wedding.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: I knew you were going to say that he he
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: will not let this go. Like literally, Shannon, did you
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: meet Joey at the Golden Wedding?
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Because I didn't meet him.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: I didn't. Yeah, we all everyone but you.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I almost didn't say it, like I was like, I
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: shouldn't even say it because he's just gonna be like.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: It was just the best response ever though, Oh yeah,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: we all met him. Yeah he's lovely, love him.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Dormy's my new favorite guy.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: But what you were true, I feel like for a while,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: like obviously in the beginning, none of us knew what
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: we were doing and we didn't know this show, and
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: they throw some but then it just went like off
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: the rails with like remember the Chicken Lover, Like no
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: nobody really even had jobs. Everybody was just and now
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: like all of these girls, especially on Joey's in the
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: last few seasons, it's kind of going back to that
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: where everyone remember Trista, like for our season you had
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: to they were looking for professionals, like with professor jobs
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: that had focused on their careers and not focused on love,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: and then it just went the opposite end of that.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: And now I feel like they're going back like everybody
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: was working and you know, normal, they had good jobs,
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: and you know, I feel like it went back the
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: basics a bit agreed.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I think that may have been influenced by The Golden Bachelor, though,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: like Tristan and I talked about that, Like the one
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: thing about the Golden Bachelor was that it went back
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: to the basics exactly.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Okay, obviously we all watched that and you all went
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: to the wedding, some of us did.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: That's that he was joking about it. He's he has
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: a vendetta still that he didn't get all.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I was invited and then they called me back and
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: they're like, actually, Bob, we have to cancel your imitation
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: because Trip does a plus three. I'm like, what, it's.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Not true, that's not true. Do you dream about my children.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I'm totally teasing.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: No, you know, I did not get invited to that one.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: And but I love teasing Trista because you know, it'll
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: come up and she's like, oh, it was.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Such a great wedding.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: But I but I will say this about the show
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: and I and I've said this a lot, I was
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: worried about the Golden Bachelor because I thought, given our
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: experiences and what we know, I thought they were going
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: to be like stunt casting, you know what I mean.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Like I thought they were going to throw a couple
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: of cougars in there to to mix it up. And
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I was really not happy about it until I saw
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: the casting, and then I was so happy because it
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: was age appropriate and it wasn't sensationalized, and it wasn't
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, people coming in there just
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: to stir it up. And I really liked Gary and
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I you know, I was happy about the whole thing,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and I think it got us back to the roots
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: of the show. And so I feel like for Joey's season,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I think that that was actually kind of awesome that
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: it was like, like Shannon said, a bunch of people
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: who had jobs and were focused on finding love. And
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you know, I thought that was really cool. And I
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: think that Joey was a super nice guy, like I,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I liked him, and so yeah, I didn't get to
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: follow the whole season, but I was excited about the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: bones of it that I knew going into it.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Liked The Bachelor too because it's much older. They're more
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: mature than I was thinking they were going with. When
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: they just said they were looking for, you know, people
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: for this show, I thought they were talking about people
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: like my age, you know, like everything on Bachelor's like
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: mid twenties to thirties, but really mid twenties. So I
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: thought they were trying to get like to forties to fifties.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: So I was happy where they went because then that I,
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: like you said, it just it worked, wasn't it, Like
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: the highest rated viewers. I feel like I read that somewhere, you.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Know, the viewership went up, that's for sure for a
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Golden Bachelor. And my thought was I have always advocated
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: for producers to pluck someone out of obscurity instead of
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: pulling a lead from a previous show because they have
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: a certain number of followers or whatever. And then all
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: of us can fall in love with the person together.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: And that was exactly what happened, and in the best
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: way possible, because of course everyone's going to root for Gary,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: who has a heart, you know, so much heartbreak after
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: losing his wife, and all of these women who many
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: of them have lost you know, husbands or partners, and so, yeah,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: I loved the show. Gary was exactly what I feel
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: like the franchise needed. And from what I hear there
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Golden Bachelorette too, so I think. So I haven't heard
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: like anything about who they're going to have. I have
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: a couple of favorites that I would I would love
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: to see, but but yeah, that would be exciting because
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I do think that people root for these people who
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: have been through so much and can offer so much
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: wisdom and knowledge from their experiences, and that they don't
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: care about the bullshit. You know, they're just no drama, please,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: like just let us like meet people and actually get
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: back to like the real reason that the show was started.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: And you know, if I started it because it was
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: a television show and he thought it would be sellatious,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: then that's one thing. But I always felt from the
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: beginning that it was truly a story about finding love.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: And I think that's they got back to that for
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Golden Bachelor for sure.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think of the same casting like they did
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: for Golden Bachelor for Golden Bachelor atte you know what
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I mean. I hope there is about the casting.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, And I love that they're ladies back because
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: think about it, like when we were at the end
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: of our shows, We've got no one, like there's no
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: one to talk to about the producers who are obviously
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: trying to make a show that is their job. So
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: even though they're your friends, like they're not. So I
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: love that they're Golden Bachelor women back. Like on Joey's
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: season to talk to the girls, I literally cried. I
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: got teary eyed thing to the final girls because you
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: could see those girls needed that they needed like a person,
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: like a figure to come in and just like give
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: them advice or listen to any questions or concerns that
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: they had. And I was like, this is so amazing
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: for these girls because we need that, like girls, like
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: we're always bouncing stuff off each other, and that was
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: one of the hardest things for ours is like we
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: were scared to deaths to talk to anyone, even each.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Other, right, you know it's true, It's so true. We
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: did really only had the producers and like the psychologists
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: to talk to afterwards, if anyone even used a psychologist,
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Did y'all? I know, Tristan, I did. How long was
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: that psychology quiz that we had to take forever?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I remember it being a lot of pages. I think
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: they've gotten away from that over the last few years.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: They must, until they kid it still have that because
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: they needed even more these days. I feel like, you know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: just getting into trouble with different contestants, and yeah, the
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: society is just so litigious or relatigonists or whatever that
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: word is.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: I'm excited.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I'm excited for the Golden Bachelorette, now that you said that, Trista,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: because honestly, it would make me so happy if they
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: bring a bunch of guys on there and they get
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: along the way that we got along in your season,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Because I mean, I honestly believe that that your season
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: was so great because you were obviously a wonderful lead
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: and the ending of course justifies everything. But we were
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: genuinely friends, Like I mean, I remember you know, I
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: filed this story a bunch, but I remember going places
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: and people would talk about Ryan and I'm like, uh, yeah,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Ryan was a professional football player, but no one knows
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: that he's the best athlete I've ever met in my life. Like,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: but we all talked about each other like that, you
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we were all you know,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: and it was genuine And I would I would so
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: love to see that again. I would. I would. I'm
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: really excited for that. I hope they I hope they
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: casked the hell out of the shell.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: I agree, well, now that you bring that up thing
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: that like nowadays, I feel like they always put a
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: few people in there and they tell them just to
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: stir it up, like of course, same like Sydney this season.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: I'm like Sydney just stopped like she's not doing anything bad,
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: and it was like it was just trying to make
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: something out of nothing. And I agree, like Trista, your guys,
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: like I don't feel like there was any of that,
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Like there was no drama, just like everyone was there
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: to day they got along, you know, yes.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: It was, And I can say honestly, like we really
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: and I and I I say we. I mean, I
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: guess the guys that I've cut in touch with over
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: the years genuinely wanted Trista to be happy, like so
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: it was you know, we would know, well, it's not us, God,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I hope it. Like I mean, I remember saying, I
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: hope it's Ryan, you know, because we like had our
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: little bunk beds in the same area, and like, you know,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: he genuinely would be there writing stuff down in his
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: journal and it was like I loved it. You know,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: it was poetry, but it was like it was like beautiful.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: And I remember thinking to myself, like it's got to
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: be him, Like especially when I went home and I
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: knew who the final four guys were, and I was like, Okay,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: it has to be Ryan, like please, it was Alert,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Shannon.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: We could talk to.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: You all day, all day.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: All day.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: I missed y'all. We need to read what we need
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: to do. We need to take over the audience like
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: at one of these final roses.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: We need to get a great idea beat the whole Yes,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: I have talked to Millsy, I have talked to Ben,
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: I've talked to all these people right about how we
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: need to have a readmion. We need to invite all
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: the people. Taking over the audience is a fantastic idea, Right,
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: I'm going to talk. I'm going to talk to them.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Oh that's so fun. That's a great idea.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: It's probably a good.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Time considering my doors being beat down by my two
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: year old right now.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, we'll go get Blake and Shannon. Love you and
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: thank you so much for coming on. Almost Famous. O
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Jeeves
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Another one on the label.