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Coming up. On this week's episode of hip Hop Now podcast, Push the
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t says his solo albums fall short of the clips catalog. My thoughts on
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the new album by No Name Sundial and Complexes best mcs out of n Y.
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This one's personal. Let's do it. Welcome to hip Hop Now Podcasts.
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If you from the future, you don't do show as out of don't
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disrespect the leg leg hip hop to say this day, Let's get right into
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the business. What up, y'all? I am your host Vegas and this
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is hip Hop Now Podcasts, a podcasts specifically designed to keep you caught up
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on all things hip hop, music and culture that happened throughout the week.
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Fifty years of hip Hop fressh Off of Birthday hip Hop is fifty now,
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So I can't retire yet, but you know whatever, midlife crisis maybe.
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But if you missed it, the last episode I produced was in celebration,
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obviously of fifty years of hip hop, but also I did a ten impact
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artists in hip hop history. Not a top ten, not necessarily v ten,
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literally just ten artists who had an impact on a large impact in my
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opinion, on this culture and the music we all enjoy if you would like
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to check that out. The link to that episode is at the end of
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this episode, which should be really good. Now, big shout out to
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hip Hop DX dot com, All hip hop dot com, Complex dot com.
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Let's get ready into the business. Push Your t says his solo albums
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falls short of the CLIPS catalog. I ain't gonna hold y'all. I think
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I agree, but let's go on. This article is on hip Hop DX
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dot com. Let's see we can get a quote from Push your team.
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He admitted taking an ell when he compares his solo catalog to the CLIPS catalog.
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This is what he had to say in our quote, just to be
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all the way honest. Ever since I went solo, I heard the cries
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from the fans of what they were missing from the clips and my solo albums.
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And I've tried to mimic and infuse and tried to cater at some point,
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but it's never enough. And I had to come to terms with that.
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What he said, he actually brings a level of I guess he's referring
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to his brother No malice used to be malest. He actually brings a level
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of introspection that's like man, I can dial into it and do it the
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way the people and the fans want to hear it. And I've taken that
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al so I'm not gonna read anymore. You can check it out on Hip
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Hop dx dot com. Check out that article. There is something different that
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I know me as a CLIPS fan. It was an adjustment for me to
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hear a solo album from Push Your Tea, mainly because what I liked about
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the Clips were their brothers. They both could rhyme. They had similar voices,
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but you can tell them apart, and they complemented each other, and
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not only in the content of their bars, but also delivery. You know
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what I'm saying. They played well off each other. It was just like
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a perfect group, to be honest, and now you're just hearing one.
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And for me in particular, Malice was my favorite out the group, I
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thought, and I know it feels like blasphemy to some of y'all, but
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I thought he was better than Push Your T. And I could point to
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a number of moments performances where I just preferred His verse didn't make Push Your
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T's verse whack. But there was something about Malice that was what Push Your
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T does but on another level, right, and it might have just been
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experienced from him being the older brother and just his perspective, Right, it
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just might be different. But I will say Push Your t probably does not
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have a whack album. He does or doesn't he has, He has albums
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that I preferred more than others. But just to really really focus in on
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this point, is he has most of his best work is his recent work
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between Almost Drive, which I believe was his last album, and Daytona Right
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my Name is My Name? Like, those three joints are dope and they
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don't sound anything alike, so I find it. I think I'm cool with
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Push Your Teeth being solo. I think he's done enough in recent years to
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make me anticipate his solo albums. Now. Will I take a new Clips
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album, of course, but I don't know if it's going to be the
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same thing, because for one, we hadn't heard in a while, and
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two, Malice is now no Malice, and no Malice don't talk about the
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same stuff that Malice used to talk about, Right. He may talk about
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it from a standpoint of that's what I used to do, but some of
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the swag is gone as a result now there is a way to achieve what
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he once was with his new ideals. I just don't hear it. Sometimes
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when I hear a song from him or hear him featured on something, it's
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not the same. So while I agree will push your T to a certain
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point, you'll never You'll never be better than you were when you were in
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the Clips. But as a solo artist, he's really good so far when
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he's released. I believe the last two projects Daytona and Almost Dry made my
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top five. Yeah, I think I remember that Daytona definitely. I still
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bump that joint to this day. It's perfect. It's perfect. Okay,
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it's perfect to me. So I don't know what do you think. Do
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you think push your T comes close to comparing his catalog to the Clips catalog?
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Or do you agree with him and said he's kind of taking the l
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because of this one last point on that to have fans to try to meet
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the demand of fans to capture what was and the Clips, it's impossible.
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So he should never try that because the Clips is the Clips. It's you
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and your brother Infrarell, and it's his bars and your bars, and that's
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what makes up the secret sauce. You can't take out and ingred a major
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ingredient and just try to replace it with whatever. You know. That's like
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when something requires milk, would you use water? Right? And then you're
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just like, nah, this is this is not the same pancakes you may
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yesterday. So there you have it. So recently, on hip hop's birthday,
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a new album from an artist you may or may not have heard of
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before plenty half but some haven't. Female MC name no name right. Her
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name is no name, Like I don't have a name, but my name
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is no name. So who I've heard of before? I heard of music
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before and it really didn't move me enough to like anticipate it. But I
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knew she was good at what she did, and I knew this new album,
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Sundown was coming out, and I was saying to myself, you know
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what, it's been a while since she dropped, and a couple of things
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have happened as far as her and what she tweets and what she says about
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things and having certain people on this album. But I'm really about the music.
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And sometimes it's difficult to separate the two because sometimes the ideals that you
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disagree with are in the music, So how can you say, well,
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it's just a good song. No, you gotta listen to the lyrics also,
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right, So I never really had the biggest problem with that stuff because
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there's plenty of hip hop artists out here that I can listen to. If
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I don't like her music, it just is what it is. So I
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decided I'm gonna give her new album, Sundal a spin. And just so
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you know, in detail, eleven tracks on this album clocks in around thirty
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two minutes, so it doesn't take up much of your time. Honestly,
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that's an ep but eleven tracks. Guest appearances include Jay Electronica comments on this
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record also Pilly Woods if you haven't heard of him, And in general,
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I like it. I like it. I like the production. I really
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like the production. Let me just say that first and foremost. I really
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like the production. I think this is a well produced album from top to
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bottom, and I feel like it's a perfect given her flow and subject matter.
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I feel like the length of time for this album is perfect for what
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it is. She as an MC can be in a quiet taste right,
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but her style is specific for certain types of hip hop fans. So,
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for example, She can be a little monotone when not many inflections in her
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delivery, but in a lot of ways without the without doing that, she
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still kind of gets her point across, you know, and usually having inflections
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in your voice will say well, I mean that line, or I'm happy
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about that, or I'm upset about that, and I still kind of get
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that from her. So for some people it may be dull it maybe a
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little monotone, but I think it's fine. What I like about her the
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most is her wordplay. I think she's like one of those unassuming mcs where
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on the surface, if you're not paying attention to the way she lines,
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there is up and uses the words and meanings and attaches like just basically puts
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together her verse. You won't even notice because it can come across soul monotone.
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But the more you listen, the more you like. That line is
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kind of crazy, you know what I'm saying, Like it's like slipping out
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of consciousness like most rappers. She a rapper two, Like that's kind of
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a dope line, you know what I'm saying. That's one of those lines
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that people start going crazy over if someone else said it in a different way.
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It's all delivered it in a different way. So she is dope in
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a lot of ways with the word play now the subject matter. Right.
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I am of the mind that it's free speech in this country. Right.
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We don't have to like the speech. We just don't. We don't even
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have to agree with this speech. I just feel like it's her prerogative to
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say what she wants to say on her album. Period. I've seen some
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things about people being upset that she has Jay Electronica on her album. Now
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this is the thing. This is the thing that's being left out of this
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conversation. But I'm inserted into it the conversation. Won't you Paul's guards to
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get crazy? Jay Electronica being featured on album. He had some things to
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say about Jews, so obviously they don't want to touch him when it comes
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to hip hop at all, which is understandable. But the problem with No
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Name is the majority of her fans are white, and she knows it,
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and I don't think she likes it. I think in a lot of ways,
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some of the things she says on Twitter and some of the things she
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may allude to or say on this project is a way of sort of kind
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of like saying, well, I don't want y'all anyway as my fans,
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and I want my people to like my music more even though we don't really
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show up for you. So I'm mad at you also, you know what
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I'm saying, Like it's it's kind of like both, right, I don't
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want y'all. I want y'all, but y'all don't want me, so I
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don't care about y'all, But like, do you want no fans? Like
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that's kind that's kind of how it is. And when that's organically your fan
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base because they dig your music, please understand you are popular on a different
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level. When you have that fan base in America, we may not like
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it. We may think it's unfair. It's the same thing you said about
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Eminembo. This is a sister we're talking about who has a predominantly white fan
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base, unfortunately, And all you gotta do is look at the fifty years
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of him pop concert and look at who's at the front of the stage.
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Predominantly they come out to pay the most money to support. They will book
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you for things, They will go to the merch area and buy your stuff,
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whereas some of us would do that as well. It's just not the
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majority of us, that's all. That's the difference. Some of us will
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do everything I just said, but the majority of us won't even show up
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to the show. And I'm no different. I'm not gonna lie, I'm
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not gonna point a finger, nothing, So you see what I'm saying.
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It's it's sort of like to me, when you get a record deal,
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you have some decisions to make. You are either going to be at the
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industry and people like me because I say that and I don't care and I
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say what I want and I exist and whatever opportunities I don't get as a
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result, so be it. And maybe that's how she feels, and I
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feel like that's okay. But if you become a person who starts to complain
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about your position in this space and complain about the lack of opportunities, while
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you gotta understand business, there's analytics and statistics that say this is your fan
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base, So why would you say something that or do something that would piss
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them off. Now, I don't know if the black hip hop community is
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going to jump in and just all of a sudden become fans of yours,
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But I wonder why they haven't yet. But I say all of that to
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say, the album as it is to me is one of the best of
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the year. I love the production, I love her wordplay. Sure it
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could be better. It's not in my top five of the year, but
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I'll tell you this much. I've listened three times, and I keep listening,
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and I keep listening, and at some point, if this happens by
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the time I reach my Best of the Year Top five of the year,
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it may have a chance to get into my top five of the year,
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as long as I feel that it's better than the five, or at least
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one of the five that I currently have on the list. Right now,
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I feel like it's just one of the best albums of the year, So
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they have it. How do you feel about this whole thing? Are you
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familiar with? No name? Leave your comments in a comment section, but
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low, and lastly, so before I even get started, y'all, if
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you've watched this podcast, if you listen to this podcast, you already know
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how I feel about Complex. And it's not like a place that I wouldn't
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like work there, right I think I should work there because I understand the
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business side of it. So everything isn't emotional for me or personal when I
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see one of their lists. But since we're talking about it, and since
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they did a top fifty New York Rappers of all time lists, I felt
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compelled by the hip hop guys on the birthday of hip hop to have something
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to say. Now, for those who don't know, is it's never seen
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a complex list. It tends to be a little controversial between complex and rolling
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stones. That's what they do, and honestly, more importantly, they probably
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do it just for engagement. So some of the people that appear on this
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list, you're like, why are they even on the list? Right,
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especially especially when you're talking about New York hip hop. There are other places
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where they got a couple of dudes who did things. But you know,
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can you hit fifty, it's probably gonna be twenty local cats on there,
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you know, if not more. Whereas when it comes to New York being
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a birthplace of hip hop, there's a ton of rappers that can make this
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list. So with that being said, I just want to say that I
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haven't looked at the list, but I'm going to look at the list right
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now, live with you, and it's not live if if It's like the
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future and you're watching this later and you're like, whoa. I mean,
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I'm saying you already know, get your ass out of here. All this
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stuff already happened. Okay, but let's get right into it. Let's just
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cheer it with the jokes and just get right into it now. I did
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see one person on this list. I saw a number fifty. And remember
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when I said earlier about why is this person even on this list? That
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person being Ice Spice. I can name a hundred rappers from New York and
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fifty years of hip hop who I will put ahead of her. And why
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do I say that? It's not hate. It's not hate because she's a
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woman. It's not hate because she's like skin. It's it's not hate because
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she's of this generation. It's hate because she's not good. She's not a
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good rapper. What's the measuring stick? Now? You can have a popular
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song and not be the best singer you can. People can agree collectively yo,
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that brother cannot sing that song is dope. So that's what I mean.
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Man, it's kind of disrespectful, But to be fair, let's see
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what they had to say and why they chose this fifty, because that's the
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key. What is the criteria for this list? Obviously, US hip hop
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heads already think about who's nights on the mic. That's why I would react
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to ice spikes like that. But that doesn't mean complexes lists that was the
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only requirement. In homage to New York's impact on hip hop, the Complex
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Music team has curated a list ranking fifty of the greatest rappers from the city
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and its surrounding areas, from some of its founding fathers and mothers to young
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bloods who have injected new energy into the city sound in the last five years.
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Skill lyrical ability if that ain't the same thing, okay, whatever,
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an impact on the genre and culture in New York and beyond were key factors
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in determining who made the cut. There are a few names on this list
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who may not have originated from New York, but their formative years were spent
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within the city and their music certainly annals the essence of New York's culture and
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sam Now their requirements skill, lyrical ability, those are the same thing if
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you ask me, But I get it, she is none of those,
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by the way. An impact on the genre that I could give to her.
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But I don't know how great of an impact that is when you're only
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talking about fifty from the birthplace of hip hop. To me, she doesn't
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make the cut. One out of three shouldn't make the cut. So let's
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just see who's in the last ten and who's in the top ten. So
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fifty Ice Spice forty nine, Faraoh manch Lord had Mercy. No, they
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don't have barrel Mancheff at forty nine. Let's just keep going. Did he
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at forty eight? Did he's on this list? The same thing applies the
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Diddy that I just said about Ice Spice impact. Hell yeah, I don't
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care. Who doesn't like the Shiny Suit era, the Lots and Big and
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black Rock. They're all signed the bad boy hip hop. They don't get
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no more hip hop. I don't care what shank, I don't care what
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suit they were wearing. People respect them lyrically. And but again, Diddy's
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on this list. I can't believe it. All right? Forty seven Bis
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Markey forty six, Styles p Lord had Mercy, styles P is not.
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He's not even in the top twenty, okay, all right? Forty five
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Jim Jones, Well, Jim Jones could be on this list. I think
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later in his career he's proven to be more of a respectable MC. I
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put Jim Jones on this list before I put somebody like me. No,
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I'm just saying, so, yeah, I don't mind that one. I'm
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not mad at that way. Forty four grand Pooba do, y'all? Well
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put it this way. I'm happy he's on the list, but I think
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Grand Pooba could at least get top thirty. Come on, man, he
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was the guy for a minute. All right, I'm getting upset, y'all.
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Melle Mell at forty three, Sean Price at forty two, Sean at
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forty, Sean Price is at forty two, Okay, forty one eight Sad
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Rocky and forty kol Mo d Some of those aren't. I'm not that bad
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at but others, I'm just like, I can argue for a couple of
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those people to come off the list, and I can argue for movement with
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like stouse P. How do you have staus P and Farrell marching Sean Price
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and the like the forties Farrell. Okay, let's go to the top ten
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before I get truly upset, because we're not gonna go through this whole list.
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You could check it out, but pay attention to who was in the
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forty or the fifty to forty, and who's in the ten to one category,
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and then think about who I didn't mention and where they could show up
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on this list, because we're not gonna go over it. Number ten Caress
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one not mad at that. Number nine Buster rhymes No now, Buster checks
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off some boxes. For sure, he might check off all of them right
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lyrical ability, but yeah, he might check off all of them. But
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at the end of the day, I think he's right outside of the top
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ten DMX. I feel the same way with X. I feel like X's
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impact was big, but I feel like lyrically it's a giver take things,
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so he should also be right outside the top ten. Number seven Nicki Minaj
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you know they did, No, they didn't. Nicki Minaj is number seven,
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but Pharaoh manches number forty nine. Nikki should be on this list,
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but she should not be top ten. Okay, number six fifty cent I'm
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sort of not mad at it, but if someone wanted to put him top
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fifteen, top twenty, I also wouldn't be mad at that. So l
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L cool j at number five. Listen, man, listen if you watch
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or listen to this podcast. I've been saying it all year, fifty years
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of hip hop. I've been seeing all year that LLL who J is the
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GOP. But that's my personal feeling, right. But number five, I
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don't know. Let's just keep going. Number four rock Cam Okay, So
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right, I already know what I'm about to see. With the top three,
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I already know, or at least I think I know. Number three.
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Nah's highly disrespectful considering this late run. But let's go number two,
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Biggie okay, and number one, and that's when I knew jay Z.
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Let's just talk about the top three. I told you all this is personal,
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Okay, Let's just talk about the top three. I love all three
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everything they have, whack albums, dope albums. I got them. It's
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a BIGGI duets because that's something else. I have everything, mixtapes, early
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stuff, everything, love all three of them. Really back then that love
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was like big and not bigger nas and jay Z kind of eventually inserted himself
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into that trinity holy Trinity of New York. Rat let the record State to
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Brooklyn Cats is in the top three. On this list, so I'm not
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mad at that, but jay Z should not be ahead of Nas. I'm
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sorry, now, do you want to talk about impact? You're trying to
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tell me Nas ain't have impact. He was on my Impact list last week
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and I explained exactly why he's there. But I think a lot of times
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with jay Z, people think about his wallet now more than the history of
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his music. He had a lot of hits, nice with it, mixtapes,
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freestyles on the radio, all of that, and not that this is
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the deciding factor. But Nas has had a nice run with these later albums
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that jay Z. He's not done anything like that. When you take jay
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Z's last three or four albums, it's hit a miss like crazy, like
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it really is, and it's not the same run late in their careers.
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And most importantly, because you could try to rewrite history. But I was
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there and I was on the radio when it happened. But jay Z and
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NAS did battle and the people decided who won, and it was Nas.
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And I don't care what you said. I was there in NY when I
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did my hip hop show and peedmore. It was the same thing on the
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commercial station out there. It's the same thing at other stations, like I
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think in LA two they did a vote to it was it was unanimous that
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NAS won the battle, and I don't care about what jay Z won the
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WARLD, what what are you talking about? This is hip hop. There's
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no wall who cares if NAS went to death Jam's business. Actually that was
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more of a hook up, right, But regardless. Now, when you
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talk about New York rat as much as we love jay Z and we love
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NAS, let's just go to one borough jay Z. I'm I'm gonna get
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close jay Z and never have Brooklyn in a way that Big did. And
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don't let anybody tell you any differently. He said it, but Big didn't
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have to say. That's the difference King of New York game from Big.
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He said it about himself. And then when he said it, you know
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what I'm saying, I'm a floor So they throw me a bed style parade
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dog. When Bigg's casket was going through bed Style was a sad moment,
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and then they had hypnotized and Brooklyn did what Brooklyn did. It was organic,
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it wasn't planned. It became a celebration of this man's life when most
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people were sad at that time. And that's when he passed. So let
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me be clad, Jane never had Brooklyn the way Big had Brooklyn. Never
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And that doesn't mean we don't claim jay Z. Of course we do,
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but it ain't never been the same, you see what I'm saying. So
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how can you have New York when it comes to rap in that way?
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You? You just can't, you know? So again, the list is
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for Gazzy, but it's their lists, and they have their motives and reasons
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and whatever. Why. But those were my personal feelings about the best hip
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hop New York rappers of all time. I think it's coolest, but whatever,
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also watch it on YouTube. Subscribe to the channel like Things you Like,
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comment if you will. I read the comments. I reply most of the
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time, but most importantly, if you like it, share it with the
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people you know would also enjoy it. All Right, until next time,
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y'all. I'm not a critic, I'm afraid Pace