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Credlin | 27 June · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Pedo Krandlin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to show. Here's what's coming up tonight
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Speaker 2: on Kredlin. The PM's plans for a victory lap with
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Speaker 2: Julian Assange in Canbra dumped a Zassange barely registers and
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Speaker 2: mentioned in question time, showing that Labour's clearly picked up.
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Speaker 3: The public mood.
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Speaker 2: The death tax by stealth that's about to be brought
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Speaker 2: into Victoria and coming to a state near you. It's
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Speaker 2: a six hundred and fifty percent increase in probate costs.
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Speaker 2: People are only just learning about it. I'll explain exactly
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Speaker 2: how it works and cool pay Shortly growing unrest to
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Speaker 2: inside federal labor over the PM's failure to sanction floor
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Speaker 2: crossing Senator Fatima Payman.
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Speaker 3: As Penny Wong was forced to defend.
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Speaker 2: Albanesi this afternoon last the brave young woman visiting Australia
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Speaker 2: to share her story of de transitioning after undergoing hormone
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Speaker 2: treatment at just thirteen years of age. Now, given what
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Speaker 2: we've seen around the world, not to mention the refusal
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Speaker 2: of our own political leaders here to have an inquiry
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Speaker 2: inter gender medicine, you will not want to miss my
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Speaker 2: interview with Chloe and following that shock inflation spike yesterday
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Speaker 2: and other rate hikers on everyone's mind as we learn
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Speaker 2: a majority of mortgage holders.
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Speaker 3: Are now under financial stress.
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Speaker 4: Core inflation the Reserve Banks preferred measure is at four
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Speaker 4: point four percent, the highest level this year. Prime Minister,
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Speaker 4: why do Australians have to live in fear of yet
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Speaker 4: another rate rise under this hopeless government?
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Speaker 2: But first, while the federal Labor Government's fixated on demonizing
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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton's nuclear plans outside the Canberra Bubble, power bills
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Speaker 2: only get higher blackouts, loom, jobs disappear, and industries migrate
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Speaker 2: offshore along with working class jobs. So while Labour's playing
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Speaker 2: politics in the real world, the slow motion energy train
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Speaker 2: wreck continues, especially in Victoria. Today, the Victorian Chamber of
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Speaker 2: Commerce and Industry released a paper stating that the lack
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Speaker 2: of gas fired power to back up whether dependent energy quote,
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Speaker 2: it's the whole entire East Coast of Australia's energy security
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Speaker 2: at risk. This is on top of warnings from the
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Speaker 2: Energy Market Operator last week of looming blackouts if the
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Speaker 2: Iona gas storage in western Victoria runs dry before the
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Speaker 2: end of winter. The Chamber of Commerce Reports says that
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Speaker 2: bans on gas exploration and extraction, plus bans on connecting
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Speaker 2: gas to new homes would cause and I quote the
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Speaker 2: closure of manufacturing and other gas reliant businesses, mass exodus
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Speaker 2: to other states, or relocation offshore. It says that the
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Speaker 2: state government's total focus on interbitten wind and solar power
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Speaker 2: has produced and I quote again energy in security and unreliable,
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Speaker 2: plus rising energy prices that leave local industry uncompetitive and
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Speaker 2: limit new investment, and it's causing the loss of thousands
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Speaker 2: of jobs. The Chamber of Commerce says this is leading
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Speaker 2: to a deepening of social economic disadvantage, as current policy
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Speaker 2: settings benefit high income earners who can avoid solar panels,
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Speaker 2: electric cook tops, evs, batteries and heat pumps, and it
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Speaker 2: excludes the low income earners, who are typically renters and
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Speaker 2: who cannot afford these costly appliances. So much for Labour
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Speaker 2: being on the side of the battler, not anymore, not
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Speaker 2: under this hard left prime minister who's more interested in
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Speaker 2: courting the Greens than looking after Labour's traditional base, and
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Speaker 2: with the typical hypocrisy of a party now focused on
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Speaker 2: inner suburban elites. While Labour might publicly insist that the
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Speaker 2: only way to save the planet is to festo in
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Speaker 2: the country with wind, turbines and solar panels, both the
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Speaker 2: Victorian and New South Wales labor governments are quietly subsidizing
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Speaker 2: coal fired power just to keep the lights on.
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Speaker 3: That's the madness of our current policy.
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Speaker 2: We're subsidizing wind and solar, forcing consumers to pay more
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Speaker 2: to drive take up, making the big players who invest
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Speaker 2: in renewables richer, the foreign companies who own those assets richer,
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Speaker 2: the Chinese manufacturers of turbines and solar panels richer, but
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Speaker 2: ordinary Australians poorer. And then we're subsidizing coal to keep
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Speaker 2: the lights on because renewables can only, ever, at best,
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Speaker 2: do half the job. And as a result, both state
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Speaker 2: and federal labor governments and our subsidizing households facing bill
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Speaker 2: shock to avoid being wiped out at the ballot box.
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Speaker 2: This is what happens over the past fifteen years. We
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Speaker 2: run the power supply more to reduce emissions than to
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Speaker 2: produce affordable.
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Speaker 3: And reliable electricity.
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Speaker 2: Right now, federal labor from Anthony Albert easy down. They're
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Speaker 2: all hyperventilating and demanding that that Peter Dutton cost his
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Speaker 2: plan for seven emissions free nuclear power stations get two
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Speaker 2: years into government with all the resources of offers a
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Speaker 2: quarter of a million public servants at their beckon call labour,
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Speaker 2: still hasn't costed its own so called green transition. It
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Speaker 2: insists that nuclear power is impractical, too expensive, potentially too
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Speaker 2: dangerous and will take too long. Quite rightly last hit
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Speaker 2: last night here on Kredlin, former Prime Minister Tony Abbott
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Speaker 2: called that out.
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Speaker 5: This idea that we can't do nuclear when at least
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Speaker 5: thirty three other countries do, it's ridiculous. This idea that
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Speaker 5: nuclear is somehow unsafe when we've had a nuclear reactor
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Speaker 5: at Leucasytes within a stone throw of backyards for sixty years.
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Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.
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Speaker 5: This idea that somehow we can't have nuclear on land
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Speaker 5: when we're going to get it at sea, that's ridiculous.
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Speaker 5: This idea that nuclear would take too long, when hell,
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Speaker 5: we've got this snowy two point zero which is going
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Speaker 5: to take more than a decade to bring to fruition,
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Speaker 5: and where the costs have blown out from two billion
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Speaker 5: to twelve billion plus. Again, all of the arguments used
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Speaker 5: against nuclear don't stand up.
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Speaker 2: As any of the Energy Minister Chris Bowen has admitted
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Speaker 2: cutting coal five power back from the current sixty percent
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Speaker 2: of our power generation to under ten percent in just
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Speaker 2: six years is our own version of an industrial revolution.
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Speaker 2: Yet it was the government's own regulator, AEMO, that built
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Speaker 2: the cat this week saying that Australia was wayberh schedule
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Speaker 2: on these ambitious, indeed fanciful plans.
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Speaker 3: Still we've got Chris.
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Speaker 2: Bowen insisting that we need to have eighty two percent
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Speaker 2: of our total electricity coming from renewables by twenty.
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Speaker 3: Thirty six years away.
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Speaker 2: Bowen the same bloke that blew up our borders when
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Speaker 2: he was Immigration minister. Well, he was the people smuggler
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Speaker 2: as a best friend, and now he's sending us broke.
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Speaker 3: We have got to wake up here.
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Speaker 2: No country on Earth is attempting this transition, this fast
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Speaker 2: and this heart. The recent net zero Australia study involving
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Speaker 2: three premier universities, headed up by a former chief scientist,
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Speaker 2: put the cost of getting to net zero without nuclear power,
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Speaker 2: given all the firming and unavoidable overbuild of infrastructure needed,
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Speaker 2: at an eye watering one point five trillion dollars by
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Speaker 2: twenty thirty former Labor Minister head of the new Net.
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Speaker 3: Zero Authority, Greg comm Well.
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Speaker 2: He's even admitted that the government's plans will cost to
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Speaker 2: night quote hundreds of billions of dollars. Yet somehow, in
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Speaker 2: Labour's view it's the Opposition that's got a costumes issue.
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Speaker 2: By admitting that there's no cheap way to get to
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Speaker 2: net zero and advocating for the only form of power
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Speaker 2: that can get us there and keep the lights on,
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Speaker 2: Dutton has finally injected some overdue honesty into the energy debate.
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Speaker 2: Not so Chris Bowen, though, who had this to say
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Speaker 2: in question time this afternoon.
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Speaker 6: I read that bipartisan respected commentator in The Australian this morning,
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Speaker 6: Peter Kredlin pointing out arguing that the leader of the
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Speaker 6: Opposition has turned the energy debate on its head.
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Speaker 7: So Dunton turns debate on its head's objective.
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Speaker 8: And I've got to say I don't always agree with
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Speaker 8: Peter Creedlin, but I thought you hit the nail on
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Speaker 8: the head this morning, mister Speaker, because the leader of
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Speaker 8: the Opposition has turned the energy debate on its head
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Speaker 8: by arguing that the way to reduce bills is to
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Speaker 8: introduce the most expensive form of energy available.
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Speaker 3: Nuclear, Good trime Minister.
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Speaker 2: But if you want to quote me, get it right,
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Speaker 2: read beyond the headline in the Australian. Otherwise you just
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Speaker 2: underscore the fact that you're a deal. Here is what
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Speaker 2: I actually wrote. Finally, Dutton has injected a note of
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Speaker 2: realism into the debate by offering an alternative that reduces
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Speaker 2: emissions without jeopardizing the security of supply. The government's response
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Speaker 2: asenine cartoons about deformed fish and the rushed appointment of
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Speaker 2: a turncoat liberal to supposedly independent climate authority shows just
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Speaker 2: how debauched our public debate has become. Because the Government
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Speaker 2: can't demand Dutton's costing without also producing its own, we
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Speaker 2: might finally be able to make some energy decisions based
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Speaker 2: on rational judgment rather than green religion.
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Speaker 3: But Chris bow and I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 2: I encourage you to keep reading my columns, perhaps even
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Speaker 2: listening to this show. We can only hope, can't we,
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Speaker 2: that you might actually learn something before it's too late.
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Speaker 2: All right, it's a end of a pretty hectic sitting week.
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Speaker 2: One water go, but we'll head then out of camera.
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Speaker 2: Cambriddan's got the headlines good evening.
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Speaker 9: Julian Assange has kept a low profile on his first
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Speaker 9: full day as a free man, but his return has
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Speaker 9: already proven politically sensitive. Freedom sealed with a kiss. Stella
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Speaker 9: Massange welcomes her husband home a freeman after fourteen years.
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Speaker 10: He's slept in his first real bed, so he's starting
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Speaker 10: to get the first taste of freedom.
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Speaker 9: He's conviction, ending the United States legal pursuit, but lawyers
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Speaker 9: remain hopeful of one day achieving a presidential pardon and
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Speaker 9: wiping the slate clean.
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Speaker 11: What we're interested in is not just a pardon for Julian,
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Speaker 11: but in changing the law to make sure that no
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Speaker 11: other journalists can be prosecuted in this way under the
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Speaker 11: Espionage Act.
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Speaker 9: Julian Assange spoke with the Prime Minister over the phone,
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Speaker 9: thanking Anthony Alberanzi for saving his life, a personal welcome.
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Speaker 9: The opposition says overstepped a mark.
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Speaker 12: There's not the role for the government to celebrate an
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Speaker 12: outcome like.
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Speaker 13: This that just sends all of the wrong signals.
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Speaker 3: There will be people who have different views. The Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister did lead the advocacy on this.
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Speaker 9: Colleagues of Labour Senator Fatima Payman have expressed their frustration
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Speaker 9: after she crossed the floor to back a motion to
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Speaker 9: recognize the state of Palestine.
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Speaker 3: She indicated to you she was going across the floor.
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Speaker 3: She out and indicated exactly what she was going to do,
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Speaker 3: but she said she was thinking about it.
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Speaker 9: The senator from Western Australia will avoid expulsion for breaking
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Speaker 9: party rules, but has been asked to sit out the
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Speaker 9: next caucus meeting.
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Speaker 3: On this occasion. The Prime Minister has shine restraint.
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Speaker 9: Income tax cuts and energy bill relief arrive on Monday
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Speaker 9: as the cost of living remains stubbornly high, and on Monday.
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Speaker 13: Will be making more of a positive difference to more Australians' lives.
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Speaker 9: Treasurer Jim Chalmers lashing the Green and Coalition in question
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Speaker 9: time for delaying the passage of Labour's builds to Rent scheme.
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Speaker 4: Now, if you.
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Speaker 12: Really gave us stuff about homelessness in this country, you
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Speaker 12: would vote for the policies that would build more housing supply.
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Speaker 2: All right for more in today's headlines. I'm joined now
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Speaker 2: by media writer at The Australian, Sophie Ellsworth, and the
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Speaker 2: Deputy executive director of the Institute of Public Affairs, Daniel Wilde, Well,
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Speaker 2: welcome to you both.
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Speaker 3: Julianus Sange.
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Speaker 2: As we saw he touched down last night, he made
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Speaker 2: a fist as he walked across the tarmac, Sophie, no
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Speaker 2: surprises the Prime Minister pretty promptly, then face the cameras.
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Speaker 3: Have a look.
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Speaker 13: I was pleased to speak with him immediately upon the
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Speaker 13: wheels touching the ground. I believe in standing up for
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Speaker 13: Australiances and we have got this done.
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Speaker 2: So what was interesting here He does a press conference
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Speaker 2: as soon as he could once assangees in the country.
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Speaker 2: He takes a photograph or his office does, of him
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Speaker 2: on the phone to Assange.
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Speaker 3: He puts it out there.
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Speaker 2: I think he was putting Burley in the water. I
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Speaker 2: think perhaps he was going to do a lot more
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Speaker 2: with Assage and he's pulling that back. I'll come to
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Speaker 2: that with you in a moment, Daniel. But I'm interested.
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Speaker 2: You know he has not spoken the wife and the
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Speaker 2: lawyers have been out fronting cameras. Is he perhaps holding
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Speaker 2: back to get a multi million dollar payday with his
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Speaker 2: first interview on Australia.
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Speaker 3: Well, you would think so, Peter.
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Speaker 11: Look, I don't know that for sure. I have been
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Speaker 11: asking around or if he's got interviews and book deals,
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Speaker 11: and people are very tight lipped about this. I would
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Speaker 11: suspect that he thinks this is his moment. Maybe he
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Speaker 11: could make significant money.
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Speaker 3: Out of this. So why would you go out and.
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Speaker 11: Do a heap of interviews when you could secure a
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Speaker 11: lucrative television interview or perhaps a book.
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Speaker 3: Deal, perhaps even a seat in the Parliament. We'll get
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Speaker 3: to that in a moment.
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Speaker 2: Daniel angel Clonel this afternoon said there was word around
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Speaker 2: Parliament House that he was going to turn up to
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Speaker 2: question time, go back to the point I sort of
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Speaker 2: alluded to there with Sophie. I think Labor thought this
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Speaker 2: would be a bit of a payday for them. I
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Speaker 2: think they were going to do a hell of a
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Speaker 2: lot more with Assange.
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Speaker 3: I think they've pulled this back. What do you think?
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Speaker 1: Well, I think you're right about that because Labour has
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Speaker 1: these two issues at the moment. The first is that
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Speaker 1: it is being led by the radical left. This is
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Speaker 1: a political move because this has been going on for
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Speaker 1: fourteen years. Why has the release just happened now? Because
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Speaker 1: Albinizi is worried about the Greens vote. We've seen that
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Speaker 1: with his capitulation on Palestine. We've seen it today on
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Speaker 1: the Environmental Protection Agency. The bill has gone through. They're
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Speaker 1: going to put a climate trigger to do a deal
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Speaker 1: with the Greens, which they said they wouldn't do just
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Speaker 1: eighteen months ago. The other point here, Peter, I think
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Speaker 1: is it's sort of come home to them that they're
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Speaker 1: not talking about the issues that Australians are concerned about.
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Speaker 1: They're talking about issues that have interested the political class,
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Speaker 1: to the inner city elites, but to Australians who can't
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Speaker 1: pay their mortgage, whose energy bills are going up. They
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Speaker 1: look at those images of alb and Easy and Julian
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Speaker 1: Assange and they say, is this government really fighting for me?
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Speaker 1: Or is it actually disinterested in its own pet issues like.
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Speaker 2: The PM three days of the tenants, like the PM
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Speaker 2: turning up to events on the red car. But I
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Speaker 2: think that's where Australians are sitting around the table at
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Speaker 2: the end of the month of trying to make their
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Speaker 2: bills that up, and he looks like he's just living
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Speaker 2: the high life on the taxpayer and loving every minute.
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Speaker 1: Well, you'd be hard pressed if you're someone at home
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Speaker 1: right now, you'd be hard pressed look back on the
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Speaker 1: last two years and find what has this government actually
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Speaker 1: done for me to improve my life and that of
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Speaker 1: my families. We've had mass migration which has made housing unaffordable.
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Speaker 1: We've had net zero policies that are making energy bills unaffordable.
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Speaker 1: And we've got cultural disintegration and a lack of social
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Speaker 1: cohesion because the government refuses to provide leadership on those issues.
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Speaker 1: So on any of the big issues, I don't think
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Speaker 1: the government's kicking the ball forward for those on the street.
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Speaker 2: And of course we fly home a criminal of assange
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Speaker 2: and he is a criminal, is it a clear criminal
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Speaker 2: now convicted felon We fly him home in a private
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Speaker 2: jet and most Australians can't afford it top on Jetstar
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Speaker 2: up north where it's warm at the moment, but he
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Speaker 2: gets a private jet. I want to go to an
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Speaker 2: issue in Queensland. It's really disturbing a read today. But
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Speaker 2: a sixteen year old who has been charged with being
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Speaker 2: a member of a terrorist organization has got nothing more
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Speaker 2: than a slap on the wrists. There's a probation of
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Speaker 2: eighteen months. He has to go into a deradicalization program. Sophie,
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Speaker 2: we know there was a House of Lords report on
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Speaker 2: d read programs. They don't work, they're not proven in
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Speaker 2: any way. A police founding with terrorist propaganda, violent videos
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Speaker 2: and instructions on how to conduct a lone wolf attack,
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Speaker 2: we're not serious, Peter.
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Speaker 11: That is incredibly concerning. As you said, he is a
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Speaker 11: sixteen year old teenager. I would hope to think there
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Speaker 11: is hope for him and he can create good out
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Speaker 11: of what is a shocking situation and could have eventuated
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Speaker 11: into something incredibly serious. But I think it sends a
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Speaker 11: message that if they do something wrong, if these kids
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Speaker 11: get involved with these terror groups, you will just get
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Speaker 11: a slap on the wrist and given a second chance.
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Speaker 11: So I think it could be seen as lenient and
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Speaker 11: not deterring others from perhaps doing the same thing.
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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the Parliament. There's changes that Labor
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Speaker 2: are bringing in in relation to superannuation, Daniel. They said
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Speaker 2: they would have touched super prior to the election, but
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Speaker 2: it looks like they've got a stumbling block. A leg
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Speaker 2: respender is joining with I think it's Jackie Lamby and
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Speaker 2: David Pocock to oppose these changes. You know, if it
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Speaker 2: gets through, of course it's a broken promise. But this
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Speaker 2: is about taxing unrealized gains. It's about taxing I guess
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Speaker 2: an increase in people's supervalues that they don't actually have.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 1: It'll also be retrospective because you know, as you know,
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Speaker 1: saving few retirement is a thirty forty year proposition, So
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Speaker 1: whenever you think about the tax rates, once the rules
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Speaker 1: are in, you've got to stick to the rules. Otherwise
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Speaker 1: it's going to discourage people from investing into that system.
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Speaker 1: And the whole point of it is to reduce the
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Speaker 1: reliance on the pension system because of the pressure that
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Speaker 1: an aging population will bring to that financial issue. But
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Speaker 1: there's also a much bigger issue with super Peter, and
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Speaker 1: you've been talking about this a lot over the years,
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Speaker 1: which is just the sheer power that his industry super
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Speaker 1: funds now have because of the billions of dollars that
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Speaker 1: get funneled into that system. So this just gets to
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Speaker 1: the point that we have to completely rewrite the superannuation
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Speaker 1: system because labor are not the party of the worker,
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Speaker 1: they're the party of capital, and they're exerting significant economic
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Speaker 1: control as a result of that.
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Speaker 2: What about David Sharaz, I mean, these guys don't go away,
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Speaker 2: do they. Brittain Higgins, David Sharaz, Bruce Lherman still in
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Speaker 2: the news. David Sharraz, the reports already wants to shut
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Speaker 2: down Justice Lee. This is the federal court judge that
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Speaker 2: dealt with the defamation matter of Bruce Lherman very recently.
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Speaker 2: He wants to shut him down and doesn't want him
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Speaker 2: to discuss the case at some upcoming event.
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Speaker 11: What can you tell us, Well, that's right, there's women
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Speaker 11: in media conference in August. Justice Lee is going to
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Speaker 11: be speaking there with Item Buttros. He's going to speaking
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Speaker 11: quite candidly at this event. Peter, But look, he was
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Speaker 11: obviously involved in the handing down of this decision between
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Speaker 11: the defamation case with Bruce Lehman and Channel ten and
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Speaker 11: Lisa Wilkinson. He was quite scathing of David Chiraz, saying
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Speaker 11: basically he used Britney Higgins's situation for political motivation. He
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Speaker 11: was very scathing of him. But really the audacity of
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Speaker 11: him to think he can shut down what Justice Lee
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Speaker 11: is going to say is quite remarkable. I mean, Peter,
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Speaker 11: he just got married. I wish him all the very best.
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Speaker 11: He's living in France. I don't know why. He's very concerned.
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Speaker 2: Take about and go home. I think the NDIS will
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Speaker 2: finish here. I mean every single day, Daniel. This story
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Speaker 2: about a software company spending one would have to be
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Speaker 2: millions of dollars gifts for public servants, golf troops, the
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Speaker 2: whole box and dice. And we find out they got
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Speaker 2: the contract and in fact their costs loud costs. We're
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Speaker 2: paying for it as taxpayers have gone up some four
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Speaker 2: hundred percent.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's clear that the government's not serious about actually
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Speaker 1: fixing the NDS. It's no longer working for those with
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Speaker 1: the disability it's work.
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Speaker 3: So do we scrap in the start again.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think what you need to do is actually
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Speaker 1: return it to its original focus of providing assistance to
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Speaker 1: those with a catastrophic, can profound disability, rather than becoming
20:23
Speaker 1: a catch all. It's not serving their interests. It's serving
20:26
Speaker 1: the interests of the so called service providers and the bureaucracy,
20:30
Speaker 1: which is growing and growing. And the issue, Peter is
20:32
Speaker 1: the government has said the best they can do is
20:35
Speaker 1: to limit the growth to eight percent per year, which
20:38
Speaker 1: is four percent in real terms. That's double the economic
20:42
Speaker 1: growth rate.
20:42
Speaker 3: Of the country.
20:43
Speaker 1: So clearly that's financially unsustainable and that's not a serious plan.
20:49
Speaker 1: You can't have government spending growing at a rate that's
20:51
Speaker 1: faster than your economy into perpetuity because that's going to
20:54
Speaker 1: lead to big financial problems down the road.
20:57
Speaker 2: And I'll say again, it's eight hundred people, hundred thousand people,
21:02
Speaker 2: but it costs more than Medicare, which services the medical
21:05
Speaker 2: needs of twenty five million.
21:07
Speaker 3: How does that work?
21:09
Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't. It doesn't work. And the problem is
21:12
Speaker 1: that the government is just focused on scoring political points
21:15
Speaker 1: against the coalition rather than actually doing the hard yards
21:18
Speaker 1: of thinking how are we going to structurally reform this
21:21
Speaker 1: to stop the routing and make sure it's actually delivering
21:23
Speaker 1: better outcomes for those who need it?
21:25
Speaker 2: Right, Great Tavy Both back on the show, Great Tavy Company,
21:28
Speaker 2: or right after break?
21:30
Speaker 3: How are you liking to see a vape? Riese?
21:32
Speaker 2: Well, I think you're going to see one. I hate
21:33
Speaker 2: to say it. I've on a mortgage too, don't like it.
21:36
Speaker 2: That's where we're headed with inflation up yesterday. Ross green
21:38
Speaker 2: Wood joins me soon. Plus how we got to the
21:41
Speaker 2: point where it is Lamist extremist group Countries.
21:44
Speaker 3: Like the UK have branded a terrorist.
21:46
Speaker 2: Outfit, could be calling the shots at Sydney UNI. More
21:49
Speaker 2: on that soon, Welcome back still to come. I'll speak
21:57
Speaker 2: with a young woman who's been sharing her own personal
21:59
Speaker 2: experience with gender medicine and transitioning.
22:02
Speaker 3: Has she campaigns for change here in Australia.
22:06
Speaker 2: Yesterday, though, we saw a surprise increase to monthly inflation,
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Speaker 2: up four percent from three point six percent in April,
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Speaker 2: and it's fueled fears.
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Speaker 3: Of a rate rise when the Reserve Bank x meets.
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Speaker 2: Now that'd be a major political blow for the Labor
22:21
Speaker 2: government as they continue to sell their cost of living
22:24
Speaker 2: measures outlined in lasspnth's budget. Let's bring in the best
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Speaker 2: journalists in the financial game. We have Sky News Business
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Speaker 2: editor Ross Greenwood. All Ross, we know inflation is a
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Speaker 2: global issue, so let's put yesterday's increase into a bit
22:38
Speaker 2: of context.
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Speaker 3: Where's Australia placed.
22:41
Speaker 2: In the world economy And do you think the height
22:44
Speaker 2: we've seen is going to trigger a rate rise?
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Speaker 14: Well, you can see it right here, and that is
22:49
Speaker 14: that global inflation is broadly coming down, very sharply, and
22:52
Speaker 14: that's because the rest of the world did something that
22:55
Speaker 14: we here in Australia didn't necessarily do. They went harder
22:59
Speaker 14: on interest rates and what we didn't here in Australia.
23:01
Speaker 14: Here the plan was to try and glide the inflation
23:05
Speaker 14: rate down over time to try and preserve as many
23:08
Speaker 14: jobs as possibly could be done. And that is a
23:11
Speaker 14: noble ambition, I've got to say, because a person at
23:13
Speaker 14: least with a job can try and cut back. A
23:16
Speaker 14: person without a job has got nowhere to turn. So
23:18
Speaker 14: it's a noble ambition. But the reality is, Peter, it's
23:21
Speaker 14: never been tried really successfully anywhere in the world. So
23:24
Speaker 14: even in the United States where they have gone harder
23:28
Speaker 14: and their inflation is also proving to be sticky, it
23:30
Speaker 14: really is a situation where you know their economy right
23:34
Speaker 14: now they're looking at interest rate cuts here in Australia.
23:37
Speaker 14: After that inflation number came out yesterday, the market odds
23:41
Speaker 14: of a rate rise in August when the Reserve Bank
23:44
Speaker 14: next meets rose from eleven percent and tonight as I
23:48
Speaker 14: just go to, where is sitting at forty one percent.
23:51
Speaker 14: So it's not a fatal complete that rates will rise
23:53
Speaker 14: in August, but it certainly says that the market has
23:56
Speaker 14: turned its attention to say that the Reserve Bank will
23:58
Speaker 14: be actively looking to raise rates right now. And remember
24:02
Speaker 14: that that goes against the global trend where in almost
24:04
Speaker 14: every other developed economy right now, interest rate cuts have
24:08
Speaker 14: either happened or are being actively considered.
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Speaker 2: Go back to the start of the year, I mean
24:15
Speaker 2: you and I were talking about what it might look
24:17
Speaker 2: like for rates this year, and it was absolutely on
24:20
Speaker 2: the cards that there would be very little increase at all.
24:23
Speaker 2: In fact, we were looking to see cuts, particularly going
24:27
Speaker 2: into the end of the year, and we thought, you know, politically,
24:29
Speaker 2: the timing then would be positive for the government to
24:32
Speaker 2: go down the path. Now you know, we're not far
24:35
Speaker 2: from a federal election where we're not just talking about
24:38
Speaker 2: rates on hold, we're talking about rate hikes.
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Speaker 3: That's deadly.
24:42
Speaker 14: So you're right, and the government was looking for nirvana. Effectively,
24:46
Speaker 14: what they were looking for was cost of living relief
24:49
Speaker 14: out of the budget, which Steve announced. They were looking
24:52
Speaker 14: for the tax cuts, the revised tax cuts where everybody
24:55
Speaker 14: got a tax cut, not just those on the top end.
24:58
Speaker 14: And on top of that also that they would be
24:59
Speaker 14: looking at interest rate cuts. So in other words, we're
25:02
Speaker 14: the government who gave you the relief, where the government
25:04
Speaker 14: who gave you the tax cuts where the government who
25:07
Speaker 14: gave you these interst rate cuts, and then everybody would still,
25:12
Speaker 14: presumably in their ideal world, have a job. But the
25:15
Speaker 14: reality is now that there'll be no interst rate cuts
25:18
Speaker 14: between now and most likely the election. It is highly
25:21
Speaker 14: likely by the time we get to an election unemployment
25:23
Speaker 14: is rising and rising sharply, and it could well be
25:26
Speaker 14: that we have interest rate increases as well. And then
25:30
Speaker 14: if you consider that there's around twenty five billion dollars
25:33
Speaker 14: worth of those revised Stage three tax cuts that are
25:36
Speaker 14: likely to be handed out, So that's twenty five billion dollars,
25:39
Speaker 14: not over the in totality, twenty five billion dollars in
25:42
Speaker 14: the first year. It's the best part of one hundred
25:44
Speaker 14: and eight billion dollars in total over the next four years.
25:47
Speaker 14: That's going into people's pockets. Now, people might need that money,
25:50
Speaker 14: they might feel I need that money, but the reality
25:52
Speaker 14: is that when they get that money, because of the
25:54
Speaker 14: cost of living pressures, they're likely to spend it. And
25:57
Speaker 14: so what will that do? Well, those companies are picking up,
26:00
Speaker 14: don't matter whether it's your insurance company or whether it's
26:02
Speaker 14: the landlord that you've got, whether it's indeed the supermarket
26:05
Speaker 14: that you go to, the natural reaction will be to
26:08
Speaker 14: raise those prices, and especially if another interest rate rise comes,
26:12
Speaker 14: then their costs will be rising, so they will be
26:15
Speaker 14: under pressure to raise their own prices. So the spiral
26:18
Speaker 14: of inflation that we were fearing could very well be
26:22
Speaker 14: coming to fruition.
26:25
Speaker 2: What you've just explained there for people at home, Ross
26:27
Speaker 2: is textbook economics one oh one about spiking inflation, and
26:33
Speaker 2: the government was at pains. Prime Minister and Treasurer were
26:36
Speaker 2: at pains to say, if they put this money, is
26:38
Speaker 2: that this relief, these handouts in the budget, they would
26:41
Speaker 2: not be inflationary. Well, that's exactly what they're likely to be,
26:46
Speaker 2: and they come at the worst possible time.
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Speaker 14: Well, the reason for that is because the way in
26:51
Speaker 14: which the cost of living relief in terms of energy
26:54
Speaker 14: bills is devised, so that is three hundred dollars go
26:57
Speaker 14: into everybody's pocket, which, of course, nega, it's a pre
27:01
Speaker 14: election advertisement that the Coalition would have put out saying
27:05
Speaker 14: they promised to cut your energy bills by two hundred
27:08
Speaker 14: and eighty dollars or whatever it was, and here we go, well,
27:11
Speaker 14: you know there's there. Well, they negated that ad but
27:13
Speaker 14: that what that also would do is knock down headline
27:16
Speaker 14: inflation because energy prices obviously are part of the inflation
27:20
Speaker 14: basket and so therefore they take it off the headline rate.
27:23
Speaker 14: But the Reserve Bank looks through that, It looks to
27:26
Speaker 14: the underlying inflation for inflation, the trim mean and even
27:29
Speaker 14: if you go to the number that came out yesterday
27:32
Speaker 14: in these monthly numbers, which do bounce around a bit.
27:35
Speaker 3: Admittedly, but they do agree, I agree, and to.
27:39
Speaker 14: Rise from four point one to four point four percent,
27:41
Speaker 14: that was what was alarming and that's what certainly would
27:44
Speaker 14: cause concern at the Reserve Bank as it sits down
27:47
Speaker 14: and just mulls what its next move will have to be.
27:52
Speaker 2: What about that stinging rebuke today from the Victorian Chamber
27:55
Speaker 2: of Comments though they put out a policy paper they
27:57
Speaker 2: say it's not just Victoria's energy policy a problem for Victoria,
28:01
Speaker 2: but they're saying it's putting the whole Eastern seaboards prosperity
28:05
Speaker 2: and its energy grid at risk. They say, you know,
28:08
Speaker 2: there's big problems in Victoria land tax hikes, energy efficiency
28:12
Speaker 2: standards that are sending landlords to exit the market, sell
28:16
Speaker 2: their houses, and the businesses are exiting the state at
28:20
Speaker 2: a record pace, not to mention, of course, Victoria's horrific
28:24
Speaker 2: state debt. I mean, Victoria is the Canara in the
28:27
Speaker 2: coal Man and yes it is one state, but it
28:29
Speaker 2: is a significant or was a significant economic player to
28:33
Speaker 2: the national economy. Who the hell would invest in Victoria
28:37
Speaker 2: at the moment?
28:38
Speaker 14: Well, this is an alarming situation for Australia. State debt
28:42
Speaker 14: rising not just in Victoria, but New South Wales Queensland
28:45
Speaker 14: particular as well is a growing concern to the credit
28:50
Speaker 14: ratings agencies because it's not just the federal government's debt
28:53
Speaker 14: that's rising and will continue to rise.
28:54
Speaker 3: Remember there is no.
28:56
Speaker 14: Surplus forecast for the next decade in the federal government's
28:59
Speaker 14: budget and so this rising vent really puts a big
29:02
Speaker 14: question mark over Australia's Triple A credit rating going forward.
29:05
Speaker 14: But then you go to Victoria and even to the
29:07
Speaker 14: whole of Australia, and that is about competitiveness. We talk
29:11
Speaker 14: sometimes about productivity and if we have more productivity, there'd
29:14
Speaker 14: be less pressure to raise interest rates in Australia. But
29:17
Speaker 14: the reality is because we haven't explored for enough onshore gas,
29:22
Speaker 14: because we are not competitive enough when it comes to wages.
29:25
Speaker 14: The reality is that businesses right now can move their
29:28
Speaker 14: capital to other parts.
29:29
Speaker 10: Of the world.
29:30
Speaker 14: And if you find that energy prices in the United
29:33
Speaker 14: States are a third of what they are in Australia,
29:36
Speaker 14: and you've got a big aluminium plant or a steel planet,
29:38
Speaker 14: or you're considering doing something in parts of the world,
29:41
Speaker 14: this is a very safe place, a very good place
29:43
Speaker 14: historically to invest well. The reality is, if you make
29:46
Speaker 14: more money somewhere else, you'll take the chance to go
29:49
Speaker 14: somewhere else and try and make that money and not
29:51
Speaker 14: create the jobs here. And that's why in time we
29:55
Speaker 14: could have a significant growing unemployment rate, particularly in productive
30:00
Speaker 14: there is of our economy now. Not to to cry
30:02
Speaker 14: people who work as civil servants or public servants, or
30:06
Speaker 14: work in the health sector or work in education, but
30:08
Speaker 14: those wages are going up fast and the reality is, yes,
30:11
Speaker 14: they create a better society, but they're not making things
30:15
Speaker 14: that we actually need in the long term to make
30:18
Speaker 14: our economy be driven forward. And the reality also is
30:21
Speaker 14: as a result, more employees are coming under the government's
30:25
Speaker 14: control and less it're coming under private enterprises control, and
30:29
Speaker 14: that also is a danger when it comes to wages
30:31
Speaker 14: outcome therefore inflation, therefore your future interest rates.
30:37
Speaker 2: You're the economic analyst. I'm the political analyst. But that's
30:40
Speaker 2: been the lefs long held desire to have more and
30:44
Speaker 2: more people working for and dependent on the state, and
30:47
Speaker 2: that's exactly where we're headed.
30:49
Speaker 3: I'm afraid to say ross Green with thank you. Okay, okay.
30:52
Speaker 2: Now I want to return to something I discussed with
30:54
Speaker 2: Senator machayleeay Cash a little bit earlier in the week.
30:56
Speaker 2: And that's a worrying influence. So the Radical Islam group Hasberteria.
31:01
Speaker 2: Now in other Western countries, Hissberteria is listed as is
31:05
Speaker 2: a listed terror organization, it is banned, it's prohibited, but
31:10
Speaker 2: not here in Australia. It's been evolved alongside pro Palacitian
31:14
Speaker 2: protest is at Sydney UNI in striking a deal that
31:18
Speaker 2: would give them influence over decisions the university makes now
31:22
Speaker 2: this situation so concerning that today a coalition of Australia's
31:27
Speaker 2: peak Jewish groups have come together to say they've lost
31:30
Speaker 2: confidence in Sydney UNI to provide for the safety of
31:33
Speaker 2: Jews on campus and that the organizations are quote ready
31:38
Speaker 2: to provide support to Jewish students and staff who now
31:41
Speaker 2: wish to leave Sydney University.
31:44
Speaker 3: For more of this, I'm.
31:45
Speaker 2: Joined now by Director of a Strategic Analysis Australia, Michael Schubridge. Well, Michael,
31:52
Speaker 2: we've talked about these protests and all these idiots who
31:56
Speaker 2: think the rivet of the.
31:56
Speaker 3: Sea chant is innocuous.
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Speaker 2: Are you surprised though, that we've reached a point where
32:02
Speaker 2: we've got Jewish organizations now expecting an exodus of staff
32:07
Speaker 2: and students from Sydney Uni.
32:11
Speaker 12: No, Peter, I'm not surprised because what the University of
32:14
Speaker 12: Sydney seems to have done is welcome in to its
32:18
Speaker 12: decision making processes voices that are influenced by extremist Islamist
32:24
Speaker 12: groups that clearly celebrated and advocated violence, including celebrating the
32:31
Speaker 12: atrocities of the seventh of October. So you can see
32:36
Speaker 12: why giving voice groups influenced by those voices a seat
32:40
Speaker 12: at the table and decision making decisions about the university
32:44
Speaker 12: makes every Jewish person fearful, anxious, and I would say
32:50
Speaker 12: more than disappointed in the University of Sydney.
32:56
Speaker 2: You and I know that amongst the Five Eyes nations
32:59
Speaker 2: there's a lot of information sharing. One of the five
33:02
Speaker 2: eyes is obviously the UK. We're another party. The UK
33:06
Speaker 2: have banned Hissberteria. I have absolutely no doubt the reasons
33:11
Speaker 2: why they are banned would be well communicated to our
33:15
Speaker 2: intelligence agencies. Why have Hissbitteraria not been banned here in Australia?
33:20
Speaker 2: Why is the Attorney General refusing to list them as
33:23
Speaker 2: a terror organization and just take people through some of
33:27
Speaker 2: the history of Hissbittaria.
33:30
Speaker 12: Well, Peter, I don't think this really needs to depend
33:33
Speaker 12: on intelligence agencies between the UK and Australia talking. The
33:37
Speaker 12: real problem is that this group has publicly celebrated and
33:43
Speaker 12: reveled in the atrocities and violence committed by Hamas. On
33:46
Speaker 12: the seventh of October, they called for the demise of
33:49
Speaker 12: Israel after those attacks, they celebrated Hamas's muja Hadeen killing
33:54
Speaker 12: and kidnapping Jewish people, and they put all this out publicly,
34:00
Speaker 12: so it's known that they have promoted and reveled in
34:03
Speaker 12: those atrocities. So they have no place in public discourse
34:09
Speaker 12: or discussion here. They should be banned for what they
34:13
Speaker 12: have said. They are clearly celebrating and reveling in terrorist violence.
34:20
Speaker 3: What about the.
34:21
Speaker 2: Actual deal though that Sydney UNI's done with these protesters.
34:25
Speaker 2: It gives them some level of oversight of defense and
34:28
Speaker 2: security rated related research and activities that the union might
34:32
Speaker 2: be involved in. Now you work in this space, would
34:35
Speaker 2: you have confidence working with Sydney UNI?
34:39
Speaker 3: Now?
34:41
Speaker 12: No, Peter, right now, we want Australian universities and their
34:46
Speaker 12: best researchers in academics working more closely with our defense
34:51
Speaker 12: organization and to help our nation security. To do that,
34:55
Speaker 12: we have to trust these institutions like Sydney University, and
34:59
Speaker 12: they're ability to do anything but be influenced by extremist
35:06
Speaker 12: protesters who clearly have advocated hateful things. That just undercuts
35:11
Speaker 12: the trust you can have working with that institution. So
35:15
Speaker 12: they're going the wrong way. They should becoming more trusted
35:19
Speaker 12: as partners for our national security, and the kind of
35:22
Speaker 12: deal they've struck with these fairly extremist voices undercuts the
35:28
Speaker 12: trust we can have in Sydney University.
35:33
Speaker 3: I mean, where are we headed, Michael.
35:34
Speaker 2: We've got serious and legitimate concerns about the infiltration of
35:40
Speaker 2: Chinese state owned entities and others in our research in Australia,
35:45
Speaker 2: buying their way into our universities and compromising our research.
35:48
Speaker 2: And now we've got to be concerned about Islamist terror organizations.
35:52
Speaker 2: That's called HASBITTERI for what it is, terror organizations having
35:56
Speaker 2: a seat of a table and this is extraordinary.
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Speaker 12: Well, Peter, I think it's a time. It's time for
36:02
Speaker 12: some leadership from the government. They need to be clear
36:07
Speaker 12: both with foreign influence schemes like we saw with Chinese
36:11
Speaker 12: Premier Lee, with all those render crowds are trying to
36:14
Speaker 12: intimidate peaceful protesters, and now with a group that has
36:19
Speaker 12: reveled in terrorist violence. The government needs to be clear
36:23
Speaker 12: and stop narrow casting to tiny little electorates they seem
36:27
Speaker 12: to be worried about. They need to stop thinking about
36:30
Speaker 12: this as domestic electoral politics and start thinking about the
36:34
Speaker 12: safety and security of Australia and our cohesiveness as a community.
36:41
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, Michael, that's the sorry truth. It's about
36:43
Speaker 2: seats in western Sydney and narrow casting to seats in
36:46
Speaker 2: Melbourne where there are high Chinese speaking populations. All right,
36:51
Speaker 2: thank you for your time out of the great when
36:53
Speaker 2: it's all to a young woman who's spoken out about
36:56
Speaker 2: her experience with Jenda medicine as a child and the
36:59
Speaker 2: harm it's caused her as she campaigns for change in Australia.
37:03
Speaker 3: Plus a bit later.
37:04
Speaker 2: On, you won't believe the backlog of legislation yet labors
37:08
Speaker 2: yet to pass, and what this might mean for an
37:11
Speaker 2: election sooner rather than later. Welkerback still to come the
37:19
Speaker 2: uproar from right leaning Labor MPs over the Prime Minister's
37:23
Speaker 2: weakness when it comes to Senator Fatima Payman. But first,
37:27
Speaker 2: there's now a growing number of countries that have moved
37:30
Speaker 2: away from the gender affirming model of care that Australia
37:35
Speaker 2: uses when it comes to miners questioning their gender. It
37:38
Speaker 2: was just earlier this year that the Landmark Cast Review
37:42
Speaker 2: revealed in the UK that they found gender medicine to
37:46
Speaker 2: be built on shaking foundations, prompting a swift response from
37:49
Speaker 2: the government to ban puberty blockers for miners. Unfortunately, here
37:54
Speaker 2: we can't even get a parliamentary inquiry into gender medicine.
37:59
Speaker 2: My next Scues has had first hand experience with gender medicine,
38:03
Speaker 2: starting puberty blockers and cross sex hormones at thirteen. She
38:08
Speaker 2: had a double mastectomy at fifteen and then began to
38:11
Speaker 2: transition at the age of sixteen. Since eighteen years of age,
38:16
Speaker 2: she has been a fierce advocate for changes to the system,
38:21
Speaker 2: not wanting others to now go through what she did.
38:24
Speaker 3: At such a young age.
38:26
Speaker 2: I'm pleased to say that a very brave Chloe Cole
38:29
Speaker 2: joins me now.
38:31
Speaker 3: Chloe, welcome to the program. Thank you for having me.
38:33
Speaker 2: I'm not joking when I say you're brave. I'm not
38:37
Speaker 2: joking when I say you're brave. I think this is
38:38
Speaker 2: such an incredibly personal thing to make as public as
38:43
Speaker 2: you do. You've been through so much as a young person.
38:46
Speaker 2: What's prompting you to speak up as you are?
38:52
Speaker 10: I mean, there are a lot of things that motivate
38:54
Speaker 10: me to speak up about my own experience and to
38:56
Speaker 10: connect with other people who have been through the very
38:58
Speaker 10: same thing. And so it was very sick. Stories of
39:00
Speaker 10: all the other people who I have met who have
39:03
Speaker 10: been through this, the young men and women, and the
39:05
Speaker 10: people who have gone through this as children and their
39:07
Speaker 10: families who are suffering through this with them. Have maybe
39:11
Speaker 10: feel as though I have a responsibility to use my
39:13
Speaker 10: voice to help elevate theirs and to encourage them to
39:16
Speaker 10: speak out as well to affect change. And prevent our
39:18
Speaker 10: stories from feeding themselves.
39:23
Speaker 2: You're not someone who is talking about a transition like
39:25
Speaker 2: Mede from a story I've read. You have lived this experience,
39:30
Speaker 2: but you're still cap criticism.
39:31
Speaker 3: Because you're speaking out. Has that surprised you not at all?
39:38
Speaker 10: I mean the very moment that I decided to Bettrenchon,
39:43
Speaker 10: I had lost all my friends from within the transgender community,
39:48
Speaker 10: and these people viciously went after me just for talking
39:51
Speaker 10: about the grief that I was going through, the pain
39:54
Speaker 10: from the regrets and everything, every single part of.
40:00
Speaker 3: Of the treatments.
40:01
Speaker 10: And this is well before I was speaking out publicly
40:04
Speaker 10: or involved in any sort of legislation or anything like that.
40:08
Speaker 10: This was just when I was talking about my story
40:10
Speaker 10: and trying to find help, and as difficult as it was,
40:15
Speaker 10: especially in those early stages, dealing with the bullying from
40:18
Speaker 10: this community that had once accepted almost like they were family,
40:22
Speaker 10: it's helped prepare me to.
40:27
Speaker 3: Go forward publicly with my story.
40:31
Speaker 2: When I talked to psychologists and psychiatrists here in Australia
40:35
Speaker 2: but from around the world, they say we need much
40:38
Speaker 2: more sort of mental health support for young people, counseling,
40:42
Speaker 2: information support before we push them down the path of
40:46
Speaker 2: drugs and in your case, horrifically a double mistectomy.
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Speaker 3: I mean, what sort of support or no support did
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Speaker 3: you get? Did did you end up.
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Speaker 2: Straight away down that medical and surgical interventionist path with
40:59
Speaker 2: things have been different if you'd been better supported earlier
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Speaker 2: rather than go down this course.
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, I mean I had a lot of red flags
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Speaker 10: at every step along the way, including before I even
41:14
Speaker 10: went down any any of the medical pathway. I I
41:21
Speaker 10: really didn't have any issues beforehand that weren't out of
41:26
Speaker 10: the ordinary for an awkward, tomboyish adolescent girl, although I
41:32
Speaker 10: also had some trauma around being sexually assaulted and an
41:36
Speaker 10: early and early puberty, and yet none of that was
41:39
Speaker 10: really questioned. These feelings I had around these feelings of
41:43
Speaker 10: discomfort that I had around my around my sex were
41:47
Speaker 10: never really questioned, and it was just accepted as a
41:49
Speaker 10: fact that I was my parents' son and that I
41:52
Speaker 10: was a transgender boy. And as I've come out of
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Speaker 10: transitioning and it's it's not like those feelings of discomfort
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Speaker 10: have gone away, but I found that the best way
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Speaker 10: for me to deal with it, to help with it,
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Speaker 10: is just to accept the way that things are, that yes,
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Speaker 10: I am a woman, that there are some difficulties that
42:12
Speaker 10: come with that, but that there are also gifts that
42:14
Speaker 10: come with that as well.
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of women find that too. I
42:20
Speaker 2: have to say, I was a tomboy growing up and
42:23
Speaker 2: I would hate to have been a young girl in
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Speaker 2: this modern age and find that pushes me down a
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Speaker 2: path that I'd regret. In the case that you're regretting,
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Speaker 2: I mean, we had the cast Review in the UK.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's been a tremendous amount of
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Speaker 2: learning available to medico's right around the world.
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Speaker 3: But it I think is really alarming.
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Speaker 2: It in the case of Australia, where the Cast Review
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Speaker 2: has been dismissed, that we can't even get a parliamentary
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Speaker 2: inquiry into gender medicine for young people. We are still
42:54
Speaker 2: using puberty blockers here that have been banned in countries
42:58
Speaker 2: right around the world. That is in part why you're
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Speaker 2: in Australia, isn't it to sort of, I guess, expose
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Speaker 2: the community to what happens on the other side of
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Speaker 2: when this goes so horribly wrong.
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Speaker 10: Yes, I want to warn the Government of Australia and
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Speaker 10: the people of Australia about something that's not only happened
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Speaker 10: to me, but something that is actively happening in your
43:23
Speaker 10: own communities. Do not think of this as just a
43:26
Speaker 10: crazy California or a US issue, or there's this idea
43:30
Speaker 10: going around that the standards here in Australia for the
43:35
Speaker 10: care model for people with generous for you are different
43:37
Speaker 10: from that from other countries like the US or the UK,
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Speaker 10: for example, but they actually follow the same guidelines by
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Speaker 10: the WPATH, by the World Professional Association of Transgender Healthcare,
43:50
Speaker 10: and it's leading to the same exact outcomes that have
43:56
Speaker 10: happened in the UK and that are happening in the
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Speaker 10: US right now. Don't want to end up like the
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Speaker 10: Westerns right now with what is going on with this
44:06
Speaker 10: transitent fire, with these struggling children and young men and women.
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Speaker 2: I think it's a christ for a whole generation. Chloevic,
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Speaker 2: as I said at the top of the show, you
44:18
Speaker 2: incredibly brave.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining me tonight, Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 3: That's Chloe Cole.
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Speaker 2: She's in Australia at the moment, and we need to
44:30
Speaker 2: listen to what she's had to say all right after
44:32
Speaker 2: the break, how likely are we to see Senator payment
44:35
Speaker 2: affect the Greens and what would have been for Labor
44:38
Speaker 2: in the Senate class communities left in the dark as
44:41
Speaker 2: the Queensland Government refuses to reveal details on Indigenous land claims.
44:51
Speaker 2: A lot of messages there about Chloe Cole. She's amazing.
44:54
Speaker 2: We will follow that story, but let's.
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Speaker 3: Get into the panel now.
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Speaker 2: Paul En Hansson's One Nation chief of Staff James Ashby
45:01
Speaker 2: and Spectator Australia columnist Terry Barnes joined me.
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Speaker 3: Now will start.
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Speaker 2: James, You've got to eat to the ground up there
45:07
Speaker 2: in Canberra senator payment before that from crossing the floor,
45:11
Speaker 2: talk that she might even move over to the Greens.
45:14
Speaker 2: The PM's given her a bit of a sanction none
45:16
Speaker 2: at all. Really miss the next caucus speeding. I mean
45:19
Speaker 2: that's a blessing for most MPs, the Labor right, of course,
45:22
Speaker 2: they're not happy. It's worth noting. You know, she was
45:26
Speaker 2: third on the ticket in Wa. That big Morrison swing
45:31
Speaker 2: to Labor meant she's got elected. As I said, you've
45:34
Speaker 2: got your ear to the ground.
45:36
Speaker 3: What's going on? Do you think she will stay with Labor?
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Speaker 15: Well, she went into that chamber yesterday knowing very well
45:45
Speaker 15: that she would be booted out for not adhering to
45:48
Speaker 15: Labour's caucus rules and the rules of Labor in general.
45:51
Speaker 15: So I think she's already one foot out the door.
45:53
Speaker 15: I think she fully expected Labor to kick her out.
45:56
Speaker 15: This is an indication that Anthony Albanezi has lost the
46:01
Speaker 15: confidence of Payment on this decision. But more to the
46:05
Speaker 15: point I picked up yesterday when she was at the
46:08
Speaker 15: back of the chamber, still John, Senator still John actually
46:12
Speaker 15: said to us it's almost over. In other words, I
46:17
Speaker 15: think the Greens know a little more what's going on
46:19
Speaker 15: with senator payment than what the Labor Party themselves do.
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Speaker 15: And you're right to suggest that senator payment is only
46:27
Speaker 15: there just by the skin of her teeth. Remember it
46:30
Speaker 15: was the Liberal Party's preferences in five seats in Western
46:34
Speaker 15: Australia that went to Labor that got her across the lines.
46:37
Speaker 15: So she's no certainty if she does remain with Labor
46:41
Speaker 15: to get reelected next time.
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Speaker 2: A very good reminder there about dirty preference deals. Hey, Terry,
46:48
Speaker 2: I take a what Victoria and there's not a day
46:51
Speaker 2: that goes past without this being some ridiculous hit on the.
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Speaker 3: Poor old taxpayer.
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Speaker 2: This time it's the introduction of a death tax by stealth,
47:02
Speaker 2: I mean, probate fees in Victoria about to skyrocket six
47:06
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty percent if this goes ahead. Families
47:11
Speaker 2: could be slugged thousands of dollars extra just to bring
47:15
Speaker 2: in the wills of those They laughed. I mean, this
47:18
Speaker 2: is, isn't it? Death duties by another name?
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Speaker 7: Well, indeed, Peter, I mean Benjamin Franklin once said, didn't
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Speaker 7: he that there are only two certain things in life,
47:27
Speaker 7: death and taxes. And Jacinda Allen, the Premier of Victoria,
47:30
Speaker 7: she's decided to create a one stop shot death tax
47:33
Speaker 7: because probate fees that are ten times the cost of
47:37
Speaker 7: actually doing the probate service. There are tax that's.
47:40
Speaker 3: Revenue grab, that's blatant revenue grab.
47:43
Speaker 7: And I think, well, look when they're so hard up
47:46
Speaker 7: because of their own stupid mismanagement, particularly in terms of
47:49
Speaker 7: their big build and their suburban rail loop, I mean,
47:52
Speaker 7: they can try and find money any oldwhere, and they're
47:54
Speaker 7: happy to tax the dead, but forgetting that the people
47:57
Speaker 7: who mourn those dead are the people who pay the
48:00
Speaker 7: probate and the the people who vote.
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Speaker 2: And of course they've got their public servants back in
48:06
Speaker 2: the office either that's a big cost to them, and
48:09
Speaker 2: they give them all this leave and they let them
48:10
Speaker 2: work four days but pay them for five.
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Speaker 3: Haven't we do some changes there? Just into Allen.
48:15
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, James, I had to look at the schedule,
48:19
Speaker 2: the shitting schedule and the bills that are clogging out.
48:21
Speaker 2: You've got sixty bills before the Parliament. A lot of
48:25
Speaker 2: them relate to promises Labor made at the last election.
48:28
Speaker 2: So what's your sense of things. If we start seeing
48:31
Speaker 2: Labor move these bills through, ramming them through using the guillotine,
48:35
Speaker 2: surely that's a sign we're headed to an early election.
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Speaker 15: Well, if you can believe what's been said around the Parliament.
48:44
Speaker 15: The Prime Minister's office has given strict instructions to Upper
48:48
Speaker 15: House and Lower House members within Labor not to sit
48:52
Speaker 15: on their communications budgets when we were all over into
48:55
Speaker 15: the new financial years. So that may be an indication
48:59
Speaker 15: that we might be going to an early election. The
49:01
Speaker 15: two dates that have come up are the seventh of
49:03
Speaker 15: September and the seventh of December. So I watched those
49:06
Speaker 15: two dates. Look, yeah, they will do this. They'll ram
49:09
Speaker 15: through as much legislation as they can They've got a
49:11
Speaker 15: couple of muppets on the cross bench within the Senate
49:14
Speaker 15: that often just give them the additional two votes along
49:17
Speaker 15: with the Greens, to push these bits of legislation through,
49:20
Speaker 15: often without any oversight. And if you have a look,
49:23
Speaker 15: they've passed on average over two hundred and twenty nine
49:26
Speaker 15: pieces of legislation in the last year. That is way, way,
49:31
Speaker 15: way more than what has previously been passed in the
49:35
Speaker 15: last ten years, which is a bit more than one
49:37
Speaker 15: hundred pieces of legislation a year. So they are already
49:41
Speaker 15: ramming stuff through. There are unintended consequences as a result
49:44
Speaker 15: of that, and it spells disaster for Australians and future
49:48
Speaker 15: governments that have to go back and fix this nonsense up.
49:53
Speaker 3: You are not wrong.
49:53
Speaker 2: I'm laughing because that's a very technical term. Their muppets.
49:57
Speaker 2: There is a few muppets on the cross bench. You
49:59
Speaker 2: are absolutely gentlemen.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
50:02
Speaker 2: I just want to mention too, We've got the big
50:04
Speaker 2: debate tomorrow at eleven o'clock here on Sky News. This
50:07
Speaker 2: is Trump v Biden heading into that debate. This is interesting.
50:10
Speaker 2: Trump's leading Biden forty eight to forty four. This is
50:13
Speaker 2: in a new York Times poll conducted after the hush
50:17
Speaker 2: money trial. But Nate Silver he reckons it will absolutely
50:21
Speaker 2: be a Trump win come November five, and he's a
50:24
Speaker 2: very credible polster. All Right, we'll watch it there tomorrow
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Speaker 2: at eleven o'clock. That's it for me, See you Monday night.
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Speaker 3: Up next, The Bolt Show.