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A Love Letter to Redemption: Daniel Roebuck on Faith, Hollywood & The Hail Mary! · Anchored by the Sword

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Thank you for joining me on this episode of the Anchor by the
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Sword podcast. I pray that today's episode will
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leave you encouraged and also challenged in your faith.
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And I pray that. You would take the stories.
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That are talked about here today and share them with other
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people. Thank you so much for joining me
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and enjoy today's episode. Hey guys, welcome to this
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episode, the Anchor by the Sword podcast.
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I am excited today to introduce you guys to Daniel Roebuck and
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he has a movie that just recently came out called Hail
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Mary, and you may recognize him from some other TV movies and
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other fun stuff. So I'm so excited to hear your
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story. Daniel, thank you for joining me
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today. Thank you, Gina.
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I'm so happy to be here. I'm very excited.
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Yeah. Can you tell my listeners a
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little bit about yourself? Well, I'm a father of two
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wonderful kids, a husband of a wonderful wife.
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I am a practicing Catholic and this movie we're talking about
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today is my love letter to the nuns who helped raise me.
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And I just, you know, I've done 4 movies that have a faith
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element and I do believe, Tina, that God led me through all the
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success that I've had so that I could be here today telling his
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stories. Yeah, absolutely.
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So let's talk about your personal testimony.
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Sure. I, I mean, generally I, I kind
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of lead with my faith. Hopefully.
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I used to say my, I hope my face is familiar to you because I've
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been in hundreds and hundreds of movies, the television show.
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But lately my faith might be familiar as well.
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When you grow up in Catholic school, you know, you're, you
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grow up in a ritual of, of worshipping specifically praying
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constantly. And as I got older, I moved to
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Hollywood. You know, sometimes it's hard to
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get to church every week. But whenever I've been single,
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I've had all the churches. So when I wake up Sunday
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morning, I'd have the bulletins. I'd be like, what?
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OK, I'll go to this one. You know this one today.
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So I've just, I've always found a great peacefulness in my
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faith. And I'll say lately as I get
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older, communion to me is such a, a fascinating enterprise, so
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unique in the, in the Catholic tradition.
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And I, I find it so gratifying that I can take communion and
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it, I, I do feel like there is a, a really great change that
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happens. So, you know, and now I make
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these movies like I don't have a pulpit because I wasn't chosen
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to be a priest or pastor as chosen to be a filmmaker.
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And that's, I think a desire God's put in me to be a
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storyteller since I was a very little boy.
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So now I use the movies to exemplify God's great love for
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all of us. I love it.
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Have you always walked in your faith?
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Well, I certainly try to. I, I think with these are
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conversations we could have on this, although I'm not afraid to
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have them elsewhere. I think demons are very much I,
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you know, I remember being on the set, I was hearing an actor
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with a serious regular time, you know how I'm doing.
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These idiots, you know, they believe in the devil.
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And he was going to make a documentary with his money about
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how believing in the devil is stupid.
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And all I kept thinking is, could you spend a lot of time
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with your guest on a show? I kept thinking, yeah, but the
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devil's stupid. And he's, he's got you right
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where you want you, boy, Especially if you're going to
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spend your money to, to, you know, tell people he doesn't
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exist. Do I always live my faith, boy,
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I try and I fail. I am a Sinner.
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I am a Sinner and then I try to fix it as I get older.
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What happens, Gina, is you don't don't you start saying I want, I
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don't want that person to feel bad.
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So I'll fib about that. And then, you know, then you're
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fibbing and then you're fibbing in business and then free.
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And and it doesn't always, you know, lead to degradation, but
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it leads to degradation of you, right?
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It leads to your, your diminishing your, your
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godliness, that or the, the God within you.
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So, yeah, as I've gotten older, I've really even, no matter
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sometimes it's hard to tell people the truth.
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It's hard to say I'm not coming to your play because the last
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three plays I went to were terrible.
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And you know, you have no understanding of what's good and
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what's bad. So I can't give you another
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three hours from my life. Sometimes it's hard to say that
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to people and nobody wants to hear the truth sometimes.
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But can I tell you an interesting story?
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And this is not throwing a guy under a bus, but especially in
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terms of your faith in Hollywood.
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So what you have to know is a Christian person or person of
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faith, you know, you're a Jewish person or whatever.
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If you lead with your faith, that is exactly how you will be
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judged. So if you're going to lead with
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your faith, man, you better be 100% committed to it.
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So we're we're one day like enough time on the location
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scout of the Munsters and now the Munsters for me, a little
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boy who grew up loving universal monster movies and loving the
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actors in them and then loving the Munsters on TV.
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And that was our daily routine. That I'm in the Munsters is
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proof that God loves me beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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He let me live my dreams. You, you might be living your
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dreams on living my dreams. So we're on a location scout and
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we're in a cemetery in Budapest. And there's a very specific
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sculpture of Jesus. And Rob Zombie made a comment
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about it. And I said, you know what?
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We're not going to have to make lightning and Thunder.
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It's just going to fall down from heaven on top of us, you
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know, because he he made a joke. Well, we're walking along and I
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say, dude, am I the only Christian on the set?
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He said, Dan, you're the only Christian we know and we study
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you like a Zulu. Now, when I told him that
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comments later, he said that is so rude.
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I hope I really didn't say that. I'm not telling the story to out
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him, telling the story to remind everyone that if you're going to
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be like a person of God, they're always watching, always, always
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someone else on the show. You know, I'm a Catholic and you
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know, it's Lent. Like now we shot at 20 Lent.
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But I have a very specific palette.
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So I've been given dispensation. I eat meat on Fridays, but I've
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given up something equally as important to me.
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And whenever the other performer said, oh, you're a Catholic, but
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I see you're reading meat on Friday like they're always
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watching you is the point of this.
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And I love these people I'm talking about and I love Rob
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Zombie. I love his creativity.
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I love his talent. God obviously loves him too.
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And I always say, you know, he doesn't really worship the
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devil, but I see his next album is called Hail Satan.
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But I, I think it's, you know, it's just a money making thing,
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although I can't, you know, it's not my place to speak.
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But I can say this about Rob Zombie.
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He's a good person and he's a kind man.
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And that's, you know, that's important to me in the long run
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when things are going bad. And one person was always like,
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dude, we're doing with the monsters.
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Dude, me and you were dreams are coming true when things were
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hard. And it is hard when you make a
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movie and the studio made it hard and whatnot.
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But the point I'm making, when we're done and done, maybe,
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maybe Rob thinks, jeez, what did Roebuck have that made him happy
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all the time? And it might occur to what I
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have. Right.
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Yeah, I don't. I don't want to cast.
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There's no aspersions, aspersions on Rob Zombie.
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He's a good guy. I'm giving exempt exemplary
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stories, but there's 100 exemplars.
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I spent a lot of time on Hollywood sets looking at my
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shoes because people talk and you can't.
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You know what? By the way, I something that's
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very important is you're sometimes called to witness and
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not be a witness. You're in your in your
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witnessing. You're showing vehement
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disagreement with their point of view by just listening proves
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that you're one step ahead. And so it's important.
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Others might argue that you always have to push back.
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No, I don't believe that's true. I think sometimes you have to
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let the truth out and let it lie there and let them boil in the
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absurdity of it. You don't always have to say
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Jesus, God, Jesus, God. Sometimes you just listen and
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say thank you for explaining that.
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I'm, I'm hearing what you're saying, yeah.
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Does that make sense? Yeah, it does, because sometimes
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you can be so forceful that it can turn people away.
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Right and then and then you're doing the opposite of what he
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needs you to do. What he needs you to do is to be
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a witness and to and to and have people go well, he's acting like
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Jesus would act. You know, we only have all the
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conversations in the Bible, in the New Testament, Jesus is only
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rebuking people very few times He's correcting people, but he's
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only rebuking them in the temple when they're selling things.
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He's correcting, He's reminding, but he's not yelling at them.
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Nobody, nobody learns anything by being young, Brad.
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No, I wish all every father in America knew that.
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Yeah, I, I agree with that. So when you're going through a
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different trial or you're at the point where you're kind of
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thinking about you're on a set and you're like, OK, I need to
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stay anchored to this verse. What would that verse be?
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Those who humble themselves will be exalted.
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That's extraordinarily important as an actor because in the 1st
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place, you're already, well, you're an actor, so you're
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already nuts, right? And then you're arguing on
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behalf of a person who's not you, who doesn't really exist.
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And you're like, no, my guy, this is what my guy would do.
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But your guy doesn't exist. And you know, as a director, you
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know, I spent a lot of time letting actors kind of find and
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it's important that they define the person to the extent that
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they want to play them because they can only be believable if
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they're comfortable playing the character.
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Even even an awful evil character as I played many you,
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you've got to be comfortable playing him or it's going to
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reek of self sabotage and you won't feel it's authentic.
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But I the hardest thing for an actor to do is to know when not
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to speak because you're there and this guy's saying this and
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this guy's saying that and they're talking and it's got
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nothing to do with you. And eventually an actor will
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just start saying, let me tell you what I think, but nobody
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needs their opinion. That's not how it works.
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And I'm constantly saying to people, hold up, let this is
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between that and brother. And sometimes you're an actor
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and you're in the center of the tornado and you're listening to
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the DP, the director of photography say, you know, I
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want that light 10 feet lower. And the gaffer saying I I've
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only got 3 yards and maybe 1 little other piece to lower it.
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And you're like, well, that's the same gosh darn thing, you 2
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idiots, you know, but they're fighting about it.
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And you're hearing that. I mean, that's a really dumb
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example, but you know, you're, you're hearing everything.
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And so for the 40 years that God put me literally in the in front
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of the greatest directors in the last 50 years of Hollywood, in
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front of the greatest screenwriters, in front of the
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greatest actors, I've I've stood in the middle of the maelstrom
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and I've watched them all and I've learned from them all.
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And the mistakes they make, I don't make.
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And the all the grand stuff they do, I steal.
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I steal all their good ideas and I take none of their screaming
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and yelling. There you go.
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I've, I've learned to do that as a nurse as well because I'm a
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nurse by trade. So I have learned that as well.
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When you get when you get doctors arguing with each other,
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you just kind of sit there and go, I'm not going to get in the
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middle of this because I want nothing to do with this unless
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they ask me. And then you get rid of the bad
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stuff that they said and everything.
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And then just try and remember the good and steal it for your
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own practice what you can do. Right.
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Steal. Well, thank you for your
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service. We have our daughter-in-law to
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be just became a nurse. We're very proud of her.
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That's awesome. My, my, my, my son's lady.
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Yeah. Especially doctors, you know,
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they have egos like actors. So, you know, you can't tell.
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Tell them that they're wrong. Yeah.
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That it's just funny when you're in the middle and you're hearing
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stuff. What an interesting life we
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have. You know, the everybody has a
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minefield. Actors aren't the only ones.
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Directors aren't the only ones. Look, a nurse, you know, a guy
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working at Arby's. We all have like these.
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We've got to we navigate and negotiate our way through life.
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Guess what? There is a playbook.
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It's called the Bible. If you read it, it will teach
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you how exactly to navigate these difficult situations and
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how also to navigate the really great ones.
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Because it's so easy to think, you know, I did it, you know,
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and do you guys have kids? No, I have 5 nephews. 5 nephews
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is probably you've and they're all boys.
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Yeah, that's God. God is God's telling you
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something. What?
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Boys. Boys, there's something wrong
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with boys. And I know that as one.
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And all this crazy thing that's been going on where these kids
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want to think they're a different sex.
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You know, a girl who says that it should be solved this way.
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A girl who says, I think I'm really a boy.
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You should say, yeah. Have you said or thought
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something really stupid 50 times a day, every day of your life?
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No. Then you're not a boy with it.
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You know, we're, we're not there's something about us.
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We're not. I mean, I and I and my new
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argument to all that, by the way, as I, I say now, have you
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ever made a child? Oh, you've never made a child,
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but you have an opinion on this. Well, I've made two of them.
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You know, I raised them, I paid for them.
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And I can tell you they're they're they're as different as
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night and day. And you, you, you will never
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convince me otherwise after. Yeah, I know with the five boys,
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they are 24 to 13 now and they do some similar things and the
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similar things that they do are stupid, but they each have their
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own. Like my night, soon to be 19
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year old. He's very intelligent, like an
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old soul, but he does stupid stuff.
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And you're just sitting there going, how can you be so smart
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yet so stupid at the same time? Like I love the head of your
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butt. I know no, my, my nephew, who's
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probably got an IQ of 220 was at the at the glasses store and and
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his mom goes, those look nice and he goes, well, I don't, I
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don't think so. She goes when he goes, well,
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like it says Perry Ellis, like I'm going to have to look
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through there she goes, She goes, don't they take that off,
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honey? You know, like, you know, I
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mean, this kid, this kid will be running Universal Studios one
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day, But that's always been him. You know, you're like, and on
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the other side of that is my son, who was not blessed with
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that, that size of an intellect is very good at reading people.
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And, and he's, he works with kids all day and he's very good
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at, you know, getting kids to compromise and understand
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because, because that's another part of the brain that's
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necessary. But yeah, yeah, boys are boys
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are nuts. I I had one of the women who
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plays one of the nuns in the Hail Mary was actually, she was
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a student teacher when I was in fifth grade.
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It's so amazing making movies in your hometown where you're
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putting this wide swath of people from your life.
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And she goes, have you ever been diagnosed with ADHD?
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And I said no, but man, would that answer a lot of questions
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why she goes? Because when you were in fifth
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grade, I wanted to shove a pencil in your head.
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So Can you imagine what kind of crazy nut I was in fifth grade?
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I, I, you know, I, I can. And I feel bad for them.
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I feel bad for them all. But those nuns stuck with me.
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Oh, that's, that's funny that I, I went to catechism when I was
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younger and I always remembered Sister Coletta.
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She was so sweet. But man, she could go.
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If somebody was giving her a hard time and it was normally
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the boys, she could knock them down a few pegs.
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Oh, yeah, it's, it's funny, when I was saying, how would I
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remember one of the boys took a swing at one of the nuns in 4th
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grade. And then we never saw him again.
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We were like, well, they took him somewhere.
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They took him somewhere and killed him.
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You know what's funny? You, you kids use catechism CCD,
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right? And I, I even, I've, I've taught
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Sunday school, I've taught CCD over the course of my life.
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And to us who went to Catholic school, the, the CCD kids.
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And, and by the way, I want to just, I'm going to say we read
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Mass the other night for Ash Wednesday and there were a lot
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of kids there at the four O clock mass.
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And I said to my sister, is this the CCD kid?
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She goes, yeah. And I I went eraser Steelers.
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That's all they are. Because you would have in your
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desk, you know, you're, it's hard because you're younger.
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You'd have your Feto bandido eraser and you'd have the thing
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you got out of Captain Crunch and you'd have your little quiz
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mobile and they'd be all on your desk.
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So, you know, you can lift your desk.
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And they were like, oh, there's my stuff.
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You put it down. And then CCD was Tuesday,
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Wednesday morning. You were always like, what did
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they take? And they always took something
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CCD Have you ever stolen some kids?
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Frito Bandido Eraser. Not no.
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You no. I I still remember the desks
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though, when you're talking about the desks that pulled up
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like that. So I'm I'm 46 so I still
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remember. Those OK, you're.
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Look, that's funny. When you said you had a nephew,
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I thought that he must be young. You look young, Gina.
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Well. Thank you.
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I'll take it. Keep it up.
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Thank you. So let's talk about Hail Mary.
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The Hail Mary filmed in my hometown, filmed in my even some
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of it at my alma mater, and the the team that my fictitious team
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plays is my high school football team.
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Oh, that's awesome. So let's talk about what the
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movie is about and what you hope people get out of the movie.
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Oh, well, the the movie is about a guy who's so down on his luck.
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He is, he is down and out and this religious sister, this nun,
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you know, he, they run into each other and she decides that he's
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her project and she's going to lead him toward his redemption
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by counting him into creating a football team for her all boys
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Catholic school. And so he's the it's he
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inadvertently puts the ID in her head and then she kind of makes
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him bring it to fulfillment. And it's, it's a buddy comedy.
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The the the religious sister and the guy are very are very
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different people, very diametrically opposed, hit heads
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a lot. And that's obviously where the
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humor is. And then, you know, it's a
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movie. So things they try to work
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things out and there's great football in it.
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We have a great young cast playing the football players, a
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great overcast playing the other nuns and the, you know, the his
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various friends and people there at school.
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And you know, what do I want people to take from it?
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Well, it's a redemption story. So I, you know, what I hope is
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people realize no matter how far you fall, our God is there to
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pick you up and he is there to hold you up and he is there to
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raise you up. And you know, you just have to
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meet him halfway. You know, you just got to come
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with, come with humility and gratitude and anything is
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possible and love of God because he doesn't ask a lot from us,
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but he does say you, you've got to remind yourself that I am
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God. I, I figured that out, by the
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way, when I was a kid. I want to talk about that.
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Can I? I always thought that was weird
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because they talked about God. God needs you to love him.
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God needs you to worship him. And I didn't get it.
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You know, he loves you no matter what.
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It's he loves you, but you have to give him this.
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Well, now we're in a world where the whole world's divided.
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Because what what this Internet social media has done is it's
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made everyone their own God. It's made them their own
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storyteller. It's made them their own
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manufacturer of false truths. Oh, look how great my life is.
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Oh, look how I live. Oh, this is the food I
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everybody's lying on the Internet.
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And God, why he did that is he wanted to remind you that you
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could not make a God of yourself.
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He is the only one true God. And I didn't get it.
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And now I get it, because now I see what people do.
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Look, I'm on the Internet and that's expected of me.
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And of course I'm there promoting the Hail Mary.
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What am I, an idiot? I spent five years making it.
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I don't get paid anything to do it.
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You bet. I want people to see it.
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I want eyes on it. But but I am not my own God.
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I am not. I am not someone who does
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anything on his own in the 1st place.
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I have a a flanks of producers that help me.
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I have a wife who does if I do 4 things she does 12 and she's not
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one to remind me of that often. Only when I need the 13th thing
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she'll tell me she's done 12. But, you know, I don't do any of
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it on my own. But then I certainly don't do
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any of it without without God himself, you know, guiding me
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and being a force of positivity and good for me.
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Absolutely, I love that and that is such a great reminder today.
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I've watched part of the movie and I'm excited to finish it.
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So when does it come out and where can people see it at?
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Yes, please. So it'll be out nationwide on
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the 27th of February. And you know, we're riding more
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theaters every day. Very hard to get an independent
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movie out. But I'll tell you who loves the
25:30
movie, Angel Studios. So I think something good is
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going to happen there and we'll be on everywhere else, Amazon
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Prime or Apple, you know, wherever you buy movies.
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But this movie, I've made 4 faith-based Movies Now.
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I think this is our best movie and I think this is our biggest
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gut punch movie because I think this idea that you're unworthy
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of God's love is rampant. And I think that a lot of people
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really don't want the responsibility of God's love
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because they want to have an opinion.
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That's so stupid. But if there's a God, you can't
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kill a baby in a wall, you know, that's one.
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But if there's a God, you can only do that if you don't
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believe in him, if you don't believe in everything that that
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he's told us, that he's given us the value of life, the
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consideration of life, you know, I mean, and that might get me
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5000 emails of people telling me I'm sexist piece of crap.
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But you know what? It's It's undeniable.
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Life is precious. It's precious.
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It is absolutely, absolutely. And I've had people on here who
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who are post abortive and the first thing they say is they
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regret it. That's the first thing every
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single person has said. And you know, and people who can
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go out there and grave the flags and say all this stuff and brag
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about having fourteen of them. And I'm like, God, just be with
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them and show them the way. Show them what?
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What is wrong with this picture? Well, imagine, and this is kind
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of what I'm talking about when we can get back to our movie
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here because it it's not a terrible Segway.
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Imagine how far they'll fall when they understand the truth.
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So, and granted, they all won't understand the truth, but once
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you do look, I, I, you know, I've, as I said in the beginning
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of this, I am a Sinner man. Once I realized how much that
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that not only was no doubt an embarrassment to God And you
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know what helped me understand it was having my own kids and
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loving them like God the Father loves us because because when
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they when they fall, if you kick them when they're down, they're
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not getting up. You have when they falter, you
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know, you can only love them like God the Father loves us or
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you lose them. And, you know, I've been in that
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situation and, you know, especially with my boy, and, you
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know, our relationship is stronger than ever because, you
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know, when things were terrible, I said your father's here.
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Yeah, and I've had to do that. It's a lesson I've had to learn
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with the boys too, because especially because they're my
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nephews and I don't have a direct hand in raising them.
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And so I've had, I've walked through times where I've been a
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little judge mental and like getting on them.
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And then I've really in the last however many years I've had to
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realize, hey, there's nothing I can do.
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My job is to pray for them. My job is to be there for them.
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And when they fall, just say, hey, what did you learn?
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And let's, let's figure this out.
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And, you know, just to just to guide them and to help them.
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Hopefully maybe someday they'll grow out of everything that
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they're doing right now. I can only pray and hope that
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someday they will grow out of it, that they'll understand just
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how much God does love them and just how much myself and my
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husband love them. Yeah.
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Yeah, people fall into crisis and and it's, it's so because
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nobody wants to be part of crisis.
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I don't, I don't like drama in my life.
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You don't like drama, but but you know, just saying, I think
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you're in crisis and I'm here when you're ready to talk and
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then something else is a psychiatrist told me once that
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I've taken and I remember this so well.
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Do not offer to help if you are not in a position to help.
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Don't say call me anytime if you can't answer the phone anytime.
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Don't say if you need money if you don't have money to give
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them. Don't, don't offer to help
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unless you can help because you're going to do more damage
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than so. You know, it's good to be in a
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position where you can help, but it's important to not over
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promise. Just an interesting thing I
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never thought about. I've really taken that to this
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day. If I'm somebody's in crisis and
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I'm going out of town, my call is I'm going to be out of town.
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I'll be back in two weeks. If you still need me, I'll come
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over. You know what I mean?
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But you don't say I can come over anytime I need you right
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now. I'm not available.
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I'm not in town. Yeah, I'm not in town.
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So. But it's interesting, isn't it?
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I mean, that's kind of the joy gene of these things.
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You know, I want want the Hail Mary to create conversation.
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That's what that's what any director would want with this
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movie. He'd want people talking about
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it, thinking about it, wondering about it.
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And that's most importantly going back again and again to to
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review it and to say, oh, I did hear that right.
31:30
That is what he meant. But you know, so that would be
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great if that that could happen. But I love even this interaction
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you and I are having, man. It's there's nothing like
31:43
getting to know somebody. It's and you just got to
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sometimes step out out of yourself to have conversations
31:52
like this. But you know, I can tell you
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this also about the Hail Mary and you saw it last night.
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You will laugh, and you may not have gotten that far, but you
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will cry eventually. And, and why do I make movies
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like that? Because that's how our lives
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are. Because sometimes we laugh and
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sometimes we cry and sometimes we cry while we're laughing or
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laugh while we're crying. You know, that's just human
32:19
nature. Absolutely.
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So I have really enjoyed our conversation today, like we
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could continue this for quite a while.
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Well, you. You you're welcome to call me
32:32
anytime or put put me on and I'll talk about somebody else's
32:37
movie. But but I am grateful and I, I
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to your listeners, please keep us in your prayers.
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We make these movies through a not-for-profit and this ain't
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one of them. Minnesota, not for profits.
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This is a not-for-profit where those of us who make it don't
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take any profit. Again, I don't know that that's
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a sustainable ideology, but up till this point it happened.
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But we you go to achannelofpeace.org, you can
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donate to help us make these movies.
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The next movie Gina, we're going to make.
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I'm so excited. My daughter and I are writing it
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together and it's called Men of Granite and it's about four
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grumpy old men who do the honor guard at a local cemetery and a
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20 year old kid who gets thrown into their mix because the judge
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makes him do his community service there.
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Oh, that sounds good. Of course, they don't get along
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and then everybody kind of helps everybody change.
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I think it's going to be a great move.
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That sounds awesome. Where can people keep up with
33:46
you so that that way they don't miss that?
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So thank you. Please follow me on Instagram.
33:52
I'm Mr. Daniel Roebuck. I'm Daniel Roebuck on Facebook.
33:55
And because I'm old, I'm usually on Facebook more and they can
33:59
also follow our channel of peace on Facebook and and go to
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achannelofpeace.org anytime. And there's you can see we've we
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have built an infrastructure here in the Lehigh Valley.
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We've taken kids from PAS and we made them first ADS.
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We raise everybody up. We give kids an opportunity to
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learn about film makers, to raise them up and would it be
34:21
great if one day they all go make their own faith-based
34:24
movies? Think of that.
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We're planting our seeds so all of that comes with the help of
34:30
others. I can't do it alone, although I
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do as much as I can, but I definitely need help.
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And being honest and saying I need help, that's that's a fact.
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So I'm grateful. Thank you so much for taking the
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time to learn about the Hail Mary.
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And there's another movie coming out called Project Hail Mary.
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And just if you wanted to figure out which is which, theirs is a
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$300 million movie about saving Earth.
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Mine is a much less expensive movie about saving a soul, so
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that's how you can delineate them.
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Awesome. So thank you so much again for
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talking with me today. And yeah, and I look forward to
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talking again soon, and you guys have a great rest of the week.
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May God bless you and your husband and your nephews.
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Thanks, Gina. Thank you so much for joining me
35:21
for this episode, the Anchor by the Sword podcast.
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I pray that the story. That you heard.
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Today will encourage your faith, challenge your faith, and also
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help you as you walk in your daily life.
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If this episode has done that, please.
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Feel free to. Leave a five star rating and
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review wherever you listen to this podcast so that others can
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find it and grow as well. Have a blessed week and I'll
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talk to you next episode.