Latest / Real Donald Trump Wisdom / The Apprentice US - Season 1, Episode 3 - Respect (2004)
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- 0:00Hey guys, back for episode 3 of The Apprentice
- 0:03season 1, episode called Respect. In this episode,
- 0:08Donald Trump is going to ask the two teams to
- 0:11go head -to -head in the challenge of who can
- 0:17negotiate the highest markdown on a set of items.
- 0:24So you'll have again the men versus the women
- 0:27and the goal is to... get the highest discount
- 0:31on a set of items. So as always, we're going
- 0:37to hear a couple of clips that we will comment.
- 0:40The first one is a lesson directly from Trump.
- 0:45So let's go straight into it. The art of the
- 0:50deal. Negotiation is a very, very delicate art.
- 0:57Sometimes you have to be tough. Sometimes you
- 1:00have to be as sweet as pie. You never know. It
- 1:03depends on who you're dealing with. I've always
- 1:05said that negotiation is not really learned.
- 1:08It's almost innate. It's in the genes. A negotiator
- 1:12is born. All right. So very simply here, we understand
- 1:20that negotiating is a dynamic process, that the
- 1:24rules aren't very... It depends on who you're
- 1:28speaking to. Sometimes killing with kindness
- 1:31is better. Sometimes being very sweet, very friendly
- 1:37is the right approach. Sometimes being very tough
- 1:41is more appropriate. And that's why Trump is
- 1:45saying that it's not taught. It's innate because
- 1:51you can't really teach. to someone how to have
- 1:58the right response or the right attitude towards
- 2:03negotiation as a rule. It's really an instinct.
- 2:08And when are you tougher? When are you kinder?
- 2:13Where do you draw the line is really on a per
- 2:17situation basis. And that's why it doesn't...
- 2:22fit the mold of you know cookie cutter textbook
- 2:25college university description so essentially
- 2:31for him the art of the deal is innate it is innate
- 2:38and he's going to ask of his apprentices right
- 2:42the contestants to to really use that skill and
- 2:47show him who can negotiate the better deal next
- 2:52Next clip we're going to see is very interesting.
- 2:56It's Trump taking the time to go see kind of
- 3:00the underdog of the competition, the one who
- 3:03is most badly talked about. And this is going
- 3:07to echo Trump's mantra that all publicity is
- 3:13good publicity. And in a way, we see that the
- 3:16guy who made the most noise, even though it was
- 3:21not in the most productive way, he did get Trump's
- 3:26attention. So listen to the next interaction
- 3:28and you're going to see that Trump goes out of
- 3:31his way to greet someone you would not otherwise
- 3:37think he would stop. I hear you're in charge.
- 3:40I am in charge, Mr. Trump. I am the coach of
- 3:43this team. How are you doing today? Well, we're
- 3:45going to see because the men are taking a big
- 3:47beating. Are you going to turn it around? We've
- 3:49already turned it around. I never knew you were
- 3:51so short. Huh? You want to shake my hand? I want
- 3:55to shake your hand. You really do? Give me a
- 3:57hint. How's he doing, fellas? All right? He's
- 4:01taking his charge. You think they maybe made
- 4:03you the team leader to get rid of him? That is
- 4:05possible. Well, you know how that doesn't happen?
- 4:07If you win. Good luck. Thank you. Thank you.
- 4:10Have a good day. That was one of the biggest
- 4:13moments of my life, shaking that man's hand.
- 4:15He is my mentor. All right. So first of all,
- 4:18we see Trump is extremely respectful and courteous
- 4:21to go out of his way, shake hands of the, you
- 4:27know, he's intrigued by the underdog. He does
- 4:31see he has a fight in him. He does see he's creative.
- 4:36He can, you know, speak for himself. stands out
- 4:40from the crowd and he often says it's either
- 4:42going to be like his great success or his great
- 4:45downfall but trump is intrigued he is interested
- 4:48in in other people especially those who are trying
- 4:52so so i guess uh what we can learn from him is
- 4:57that by putting yourself out there and doing
- 4:59the effort you do catch some positive attention
- 5:02and here There's another lesson. And Trump basically
- 5:06is telling him, right, he understands that he,
- 5:09that Sam has been picked as team leader so that
- 5:13if his team fails, he is one of the three candidates
- 5:15potentially to be ousted. And at this point,
- 5:18after three losses, it's most likely, you know,
- 5:21it's going to fall on him. And Trump gives him
- 5:24a very sage advice. And this advice is echoed
- 5:28in other business literature, say from Jeffrey
- 5:32Pfeffer in, seven laws of power essentially it's
- 5:37seventh law basically that that success justifies
- 5:45you know the in in a way that if the outcome
- 5:51is positive then it excuses the eccentricities
- 5:58of the person he tells him you know how that
- 6:01doesn't happen how he doesn't get kicked out
- 6:03of the show and still has a chance to be the
- 6:05apprentice is if his team wins and and in a way
- 6:10uh you know success is the ultimate revenge right
- 6:16it's it's often said and and we can clearly see
- 6:20how how it makes sense that ultimately um ultimately
- 6:26the The outcome will, you know, the story is
- 6:34told by the winners, right? So if he manages
- 6:41to pull the first one for the team, then he can
- 6:44completely reverse how the script is. And same
- 6:49story for Trump. in the way that he reshaped
- 6:56the Republican Party. He was an outsider to the
- 7:00Republican Party and he came with his own vision,
- 7:05truly his own vision. He understood what the
- 7:08Republican electorate, he really reached out
- 7:11to him and also to other, you know, center and
- 7:14other members of the American public and he made
- 7:17all his support coalesce around his vision and
- 7:21winning, the fact that he won, overwhelmingly
- 7:25in 2016 and in 2024 um it it's the outcome gives
- 7:36him proves that he was right in a way so it it
- 7:41proves all of his critics wrong and it uh it
- 7:47validates all the people who believed in him
- 7:50and and it kind of the doubters the people who
- 7:54doubted him are you know to not go too much on
- 7:59that topic of course they're they're a bit you
- 8:04know they they have to to to go or revisit their
- 8:10assumptions to say the least and this is a very
- 8:14satisfactory feeling for trump we'll see in some
- 8:17of his books he's going to make references to
- 8:21to how revenge in certain ways, like via success,
- 8:28it is a very wholesome feeling. And so this is
- 8:37some of the mentorship he gives to Sam ahead
- 8:41of the challenge. So we're going to pursue and
- 8:47go a little further. So I'll sum up the episode.
- 8:52The women, of course, I mean, they were more
- 8:56successful at negotiations because they went
- 8:59for items that had a bigger margin. So if the
- 9:05woman, for example, went to a golf store, I'm
- 9:09going to play a short clip of that, and they
- 9:12negotiated a good amount off of the club, whereas
- 9:15the men want to try to negotiate. gold and gold
- 9:20is really set at market prices and they were
- 9:24much less successful in getting a discount. We'll
- 9:26just hear a clip of one of the women closing
- 9:29a discount on a golf club. So how about cost
- 9:35plus 10 %? You're making money. Yeah, plus 10
- 9:39% to your ideal. For 300 bucks, you got yourself
- 9:43a deal. Okay, there we go. We got a deal. And
- 9:49here we just witnessed getting a $120 discount
- 9:53on golf clubs. One that should be $419, one for
- 9:56$300. And that's because the woman knew that
- 10:01this was a high margin item. And they proposed
- 10:07a solution that was win -win in that the club
- 10:12owner was making a profit. And they were kind
- 10:16of... asking him to make this concession for
- 10:18the sake of the competition. And he kind of felt
- 10:21sympathy towards them, but he was still winning.
- 10:23He was not at a loss, whereas the men, when they
- 10:31were trying to negotiate percentage points off
- 10:34of gold, they were literally trying to get gold
- 10:37at lower than the market price. And it was a
- 10:41very tough... They weren't able to pull it off.
- 10:47So ultimately, the women win again and Trump
- 10:51is going to congratulate them. And notice you're
- 10:54going to encounter something very interesting.
- 10:59Remind you, this is 2004. So this is really one
- 11:05of the first times you see an equal... board
- 11:09women and men we talk a lot about equality in
- 11:13the work workplace and have you know having you
- 11:18know elevating the role of woman executive and
- 11:22you're going to see this is trump is surrounded
- 11:25on his right he has a male advisor on his left
- 11:28he has a female advisor and he has the two teams
- 11:30fight off each other. And the team of women is
- 11:33exceptionally competent. Trump is admirative
- 11:36of that. And I'll let you listen and add some
- 11:39comments. I'm starting to think that I may never
- 11:44hire a man again. I'm very disappointed in you.
- 11:52All right, look, the men lost, the women won.
- 11:56That's that. To celebrate, here's what you're
- 11:58going to do tonight. You're going to have dinner
- 12:00at the world famous 21 Club. Now, my father was
- 12:04a builder in Brooklyn and Queens. His biggest
- 12:06treat ever was the ability to go to the 21 Club
- 12:10on occasion with his friends and have dinner
- 12:12there. And he had one table that he loved. That's
- 12:16my father, Fred Trump. And you're going to have
- 12:18dinner tonight at the Fred Trump table at the
- 12:2121 Club. So you're going to enjoy it. All right.
- 12:25So Trump treats. the winning team to a table
- 12:29where his dad want to celebrate business deals.
- 12:33So he, it shows, you know, a generous personality
- 12:37that despite his status, he is open to share
- 12:41some of the most intimate and, you know, prized,
- 12:46sentimental, you know, places, things that we
- 12:53saw in the first episode. He, he did give a tour
- 12:56of his. private apartment. Now he's treating
- 13:02the women to a dinner among themselves at his
- 13:08dad's favorite restaurant at his habitual spot.
- 13:17And we'll see how the women react to that. They're
- 13:19very grateful, of course. And of course, they
- 13:21are going to repeat the fact that he said, you
- 13:24know, what he said about the fact that he feels
- 13:27that women in this case were more competent.
- 13:30And this just dispels some of the myth about
- 13:34Trump and, you know, some of the false characterizations.
- 13:38We see that he is indeed very much pro -competence.
- 13:42And when he recognizes, when he sees it, he recognizes
- 13:45it. egos for the more competent uh person regardless
- 13:50of gender in this case absolutely uh it was a
- 13:53woman so here we're gonna hear their initial
- 13:57uh reactions this is where donald trump ate when
- 14:03he was little how many deals have been made how
- 14:06about mr trump's comment about never hiring another
- 14:12All right. They noticed that. And that was 2004.
- 14:17So it's just, if you watch the show, you're going
- 14:21to see, you know, how he was good at spotting
- 14:24talent and at recognizing talent, where it comes
- 14:27from. Now, we're going to segue into probably
- 14:33the final clip for today. And this is kind of
- 14:38the assessment done with the man. after the women
- 14:41are gone for for fun the men have to face an
- 14:45elimination and in the elimination round uh basically
- 14:50it's kind of the time to examine what went wrong
- 14:56what went wrong and uh i'll let the clip play
- 15:00it's gonna be self -explanatory for for most
- 15:04of it and we may comment you know as a man i'm
- 15:09so I'm disappointed with you guys. I don't know
- 15:12what's happening. George, what happened this
- 15:14time? I mean, this is just nuts. Sam, you were
- 15:17the team leader. Yes, I was. Well, I think we
- 15:20had a successful plan, and everybody understood
- 15:22the plan. And at the end of the day, although
- 15:25everyone did try, the plan was not implemented.
- 15:29Is it Sam's fault, do you think, fellas? Kwame.
- 15:31Yeah, I think it is Sam's fault. If you look
- 15:33at how the overall procedure broke down, we knew
- 15:37that the golf club had a large spread and we
- 15:39can negotiate. We also knew that the leg wax
- 15:42had a large spread. And that's where we got beat
- 15:44on those two items. $119 on the golf club and
- 15:47$50 or so on the leg wax. So what did Sam do
- 15:50to mess you up? So we were on our way to get
- 15:52the leg wax. We immediately got a call around
- 15:541130 or so saying, you must go to buy the gold
- 15:58now before noon. Gold is not going to change
- 16:00based on whether you buy it before noon or not.
- 16:02And also there's not a lot of margin in it. And
- 16:04we said that. We still got, look, you know, we
- 16:07did our research. You've got to leave Chinatown
- 16:09now and go get the gold. The problem with the
- 16:11golf clubs is we were furnished two numbers.
- 16:13The second number we called, the store didn't
- 16:15even carry golf clubs. Right. So we're sitting
- 16:18here looking at each other. What kind of backup?
- 16:20But you went to a golf store. Wait a minute.
- 16:21And we were kind of, that's when we were kind
- 16:23of perplexed. Like, this is the number, this
- 16:26is the address you gave us to go buy the golf
- 16:27club. I called the store and they said, we're
- 16:30sorry, we don't even carry golf clubs, sir. Nick,
- 16:33you think Sam's a leader? I think he displayed
- 16:36leadership qualities during the task. Whether
- 16:39or not I would have made the same decisions,
- 16:41I'm not quite sure. Do you guys think Sam's a
- 16:43leader? No. And here's why Sam's not a leader.
- 16:46When we have to all, the rest of the team, tell
- 16:48Sam, calm down. Stay calm, Sam. Stay calm. That's
- 16:52not showing Shana's a good leader. What about
- 16:54you, Kwame? I think he's already shown some success,
- 16:56but in your role, no, I don't think he'd be capable.
- 16:59I think it actually comes down to respect. If
- 17:02I had had respect, true respect. Did they not
- 17:04respect you, Sam? Not everyone. Who did not respect
- 17:08you? Kwame and Bowie. Do you respect Kwame? I
- 17:11respect everyone at this table. I have not earned
- 17:14the full respect of everyone at the table. I
- 17:16wouldn't say that's it. That's probably the most
- 17:19true statement that you've made. And I can't
- 17:22lead until I have that respect. They can't make
- 17:24it. You have to get the respect. I do. You have
- 17:26to earn it. And if you don't earn it, you have
- 17:28to demand it. Right. And you know what? Yesterday
- 17:30I could have demanded it better. And that's what
- 17:33I'm learning. But I am a leader. But they don't
- 17:36respect you, Sam. So look, Sam. All right. So
- 17:40respect is the name of the episode. And we see
- 17:43this is kind of the theme in this feedback. Sam
- 17:46is complaining that he doesn't have the respect
- 17:48of his teammates. Trump is telling him it's true
- 17:51that he doesn't seem to be respected. Carolyn
- 17:54is advising that he should. demand respect but
- 17:58of course we hear in the feedback from the colleagues
- 18:02that there are many points of improvement for
- 18:06sam the first one kwame is saying how they were
- 18:11giving him feedback on they were close to negotiating
- 18:15a discount i think in chinatown or downtown but
- 18:19he was rushing them to go more to midtown for
- 18:24The goal negotiations, right? And he made it
- 18:27a point for it to be right before noon. He didn't
- 18:32listen. So this is the first point. He did not
- 18:36listen to what was the reality on the ground.
- 18:39So if you're leading a team, before you set the
- 18:43direct, of course, you have a direction. You
- 18:45know where to go based on your own management.
- 18:47But listen to your teammates, listen to people
- 18:51underground. They have more insight into the
- 18:54reality than you or your own managers do. So
- 18:58the fact that he didn't listen, right, that was
- 19:00minus one on the mutual respect. for sending
- 19:08them to the wrong golf address, to a golf store
- 19:12that doesn't carry golf clubs. The item list
- 19:14was clear. They had to negotiate a golf club.
- 19:18If he sends them to a golf store that doesn't
- 19:20carry golf clubs, it's a lack of preparation.
- 19:23And here, people trust your leadership. People
- 19:28trust your command. They believe you've done
- 19:31the research. You are sending them physically
- 19:33to an address. They believe at minimum you have
- 19:36made the call or you know what's waiting for
- 19:39them there instead of just sending them to the
- 19:42first address that popped up. And once they realized
- 19:45that that was the case, right, that there was
- 19:48no proper preparation, no proper care, you know,
- 19:53again, a minus one on the mutual respect there.
- 19:56So first we mentioned. The lack of listening
- 19:59now is the lack of preparation or lack of care.
- 20:03And finally, Bowie mentions that Sam is not a
- 20:10leader when his emotional intelligence has to
- 20:13be put in check, right? He needs his subordinates
- 20:18or his teammates to calm him, right? So the role
- 20:25of a leader... On the opposite, it's to lead
- 20:28on the emotional intelligence front as well.
- 20:32It's to be there for his coach's sports team.
- 20:36You want the coach to have more emotional intelligence
- 20:40than the players to help them navigate their
- 20:43emotions and the ups and downs, not the other
- 20:46way around. And here, it's the other way around.
- 20:49So another minus one on the respect front. To
- 20:52summarize on the respect. Just if we focus in
- 20:58on why the man lost again and the specific team
- 21:06dynamics here that actually got Sam fired, despite
- 21:10the potential that Trump saw in him, it's that
- 21:14he did not truly listen to his teammates. He
- 21:19didn't make them feel heard. actually listened
- 21:22so he didn't really know what they meant and
- 21:25why they meant it he was not prepared right he
- 21:30he has a flaw of overconfidence and kind of like
- 21:34just wailing things into existence it's a it's
- 21:39a good quality but it can also also backfire
- 21:43so we can draw a quick example here from steve
- 21:47jobs who's of course known on the management
- 21:50front to be He wills the deadline he has in mind,
- 21:54and somehow his subordinates make it happen in
- 21:58time. It's impossible, and things worked at Apple
- 22:02that way. But when he was faced with his pancreatic
- 22:06cancer diagnosis, he kind of thought that he
- 22:10could just wish it away instead of following
- 22:14his doctor's advice to have surgery. And I believe
- 22:18that was one of his regrets. that he did not
- 22:21listen to... He was not open to input. That's
- 22:29what it meant. He has his vision, but if he's
- 22:32not willing to adjust it based on real -life
- 22:34reality's input, then there may be a mistake.
- 22:44Second one, of course, was that... a lack of
- 22:48preparation. Lack of preparation is a bit disrespectful.
- 22:50It's kind of like arriving late at a meeting
- 22:54without proper communications ahead of time.
- 22:58It shows the other side that there's a lack of
- 23:03care. And here, the fact that he sent them to
- 23:06an address not fully having vetted it, either
- 23:10it shows incompetence or it shows a lack of...
- 23:16A lack of respect, a lack of care for people
- 23:19who trust you is a lack of respect. So preparation
- 23:25equals caring equals respect in this regard.
- 23:33And finally, as a leader, Sam is expected, or
- 23:40you in your position of leadership are expected
- 23:42to... to keep your head cool a bit longer than
- 23:47the others and to stay level -headed and to kind
- 23:52of see the bigger picture and help calm others
- 23:56if there's a momentary turbulence, not the other
- 24:01way around. And a sign of a good leader or a
- 24:04good manager is one that can stay cool and help
- 24:08his teammates. If you're the one who needs the
- 24:12help, you're more draining resources rather than
- 24:16adding resources. And so that's good takeaways
- 24:19on the leadership front that we can take from
- 24:23this episode. And on the negotiation fronts,
- 24:26as we said at the beginning, every situation,
- 24:30every person is a bit different, right? So you
- 24:34have to adapt the style. And that's what Trump
- 24:37believes the negotiation skills are. are are
- 24:40innate they're not taught it really goes down
- 24:43to the instincts are you tougher are you kinder
- 24:48what works better depending on the circumstances
- 24:52it could be surprising what does work at the
- 24:55end but basically there's a whole range depending
- 24:59on who you're dealing with and what what's at
- 25:01stake and we saw a great move from the women's
- 25:06team is that you negotiate on items that have
- 25:10a high margin. So it's easier for the other side
- 25:14to meet you, let's say, halfway and still feel
- 25:18like it's a win -win. If you go try to negotiate
- 25:21something that has no margin, you want to eat
- 25:24at the profits or make them lose even on their
- 25:31quality basis, it's not a winning... It's not
- 25:37a winning strategy, as we saw here. Anyways,
- 25:39I hope you like this episode and stay tuned for
- 25:43more. Thank you for listening.