Latest / The Jake Wimberly Podcast / Kelley Ford Stays on to Talk about Conference Outlook in NCAA and Miami Hurricanes Football
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- 0:00Kelly Ford Withthlones dot com. Kelly, I know you guys are doing you
- 0:02do a lot with football, but I see some basketball. Do a little
- 0:05bit of everything at the lines. Yeah. Over at the Liones dot com.
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- 0:16out in the Lines dot com. Kelly. When you look at the conference
- 0:19averages, I like what you've done here. Conference average k Ford rating points
- 0:22per game above or below Division one average, Big Ten are Big twelve e
- 0:27scus me comes in at twelve point two, the Big Ten right behind them
- 0:30at ten point four, moving up the SEC ten point three, Big easton
- 0:34then the ACC and of course we know this when you get into college basketball,
- 0:37you get into you know, as much as what you've got thirty three
- 0:40different conferences here. It really is interesting that how many I think we forget
- 0:44how many people play Division one basketball that could get into the tournament. But
- 0:47let me ask you about the SEC. How deep is this league? You
- 0:51know, we have those conversations down here. Is this a seventeen league to
- 0:55the tournament? Is an eighteen league? Nine league team. How deep is
- 0:58this is this league in your estimation? Yeah, the SEC is obviously the
- 1:03Kings of the grid iron, but very good and men's basketball as well.
- 1:07I think you can go seven, eight, nine deep into the tournam of
- 1:10this year. Of course, the bubble starts getting murky, you get your
- 1:11bid Steelers. But in terms of the best teams in the SDC, if
- 1:15for me, it kind of starts with the top tier of grouping Tennessee,
- 1:19Auburn, Alabama, all very similarly power rated up there in the top five,
- 1:23the top ten in the country. So to me, that's kind of
- 1:26the class of the SDC. If you will, Kentucky, it is probably
- 1:30in that next kind of tier, that next grouping of teams Texas, A
- 1:33and M Florida, Mississippi State right there in your backyard, Jake. Those
- 1:38are also some teams that from a power rating standpoint, are performing at a
- 1:42very very high level, at top forty level nationally. You talk about next
- 1:47year what the SEC is going to look like. Both Texas and Oklahoma right
- 1:49now in the top thirty five of my power ratings on the basketball side,
- 1:53So I think you can get all the way down into the middle, maybe
- 1:57even that third quarti of the conference where you've got resumes that put you in
- 2:02a position to be under consideration on selection Sunday, because that's what the committee's
- 2:07looking at. And if someone who works in a conference office and overseas basketball
- 2:10in the Horizon League, I can speak pretty detailed on what the committee's valuing
- 2:15and what they don't value. When you play in a conference like the SCC
- 2:20or like the Big Twelve, where night in and night out, these games
- 2:23that you're playing their Quad one, their Quad two opportunities. You get rewarded
- 2:28by the committee for winning those games. You do not get punished for losing
- 2:31those games. So even if a team has collected some losses and that lost
- 2:37columns really piling up, if all of those losses are in Quad one and
- 2:39Quad two in the eyes of the selection committee, you actually still have a
- 2:44pretty good resume. And that's how you can see, you know, eight
- 2:46nine teams from a single conference get into the tournament. Which conference, in
- 2:52your estimation, are we sleeping on this year? That could be, you
- 2:54know, somewhat of a surprise. I mean, obviously we know about the
- 2:58Big Twelve, of the Ten, the SEC, the Big East, the
- 3:00ACC, I mean we're looking at the you know, Mountain Valley Conference.
- 3:02Are we looking at the West Coast Conference? Are we looking at maybe a
- 3:07WAC. I mean, where are you looking that? Maybe a lot of
- 3:08people aren't looking. Yeah, I think you know, outside the Power six
- 3:14if you will in college basketball, that'd be your your traditional Power five plus
- 3:16the Big East. For me, it's easy to go right to the Mountain
- 3:20West. I think the Mountain West they might get four teams in the tournament
- 3:23this year. And you know, for a for a for a high mid
- 3:27they're a mid major, high major, whatever you want to call them.
- 3:29They do play FBS football of course in the Mountain West, but typically not
- 3:32a basketball powerhouse that comes to mind, the Mountain West Conference. I also
- 3:37think the A ten is a conference to keep an eye on, with some
- 3:38good teams the WCC, you know, the West Coast Conference. Usually they've
- 3:43got Gonzaga and then you know Saint Mary's will will be a strong team too.
- 3:46In recent year, San Francisco has made the tournament out of the WCC.
- 3:51Gonzaga is down this year. This is not the Gonzaga type team that
- 3:54you're used to seeing from the last twenty five years. So I'm not sure
- 3:58how much the w C he's going to be a big player come March this
- 4:01year, but definitely the Mountain West, the A ten, that's where you
- 4:04need to be looking if you're looking outside the traditional power six. Let me
- 4:09shift back to college football real quickly and get your thoughts on a couple of
- 4:13Well, I've talked to Chris Landry about this yesterday, way too early,
- 4:16but you look at the Miami Hurricanes and what they have been able to do
- 4:19in the transfer portal. You start really chalking through their recruiting and you know
- 4:24what they obviously bringing in cam Ward, and it looks like this could be
- 4:27a you know, banger bust year for Mario Crystal Ball and talent wise,
- 4:31it looks like they've got as good a talent as anybody in the ACC coming
- 4:34back. Is this a banger bust year in your estimation for Mario Cristobal?
- 4:40Yeah, I hate to put that kind of label on it when we're this
- 4:43far out, as you said, but I think that's reasonable. And Jacobs,
- 4:46we've talked about before in the New Look ACC. I mean Florida State,
- 4:53you know a recent you know, the last half century or last half
- 4:56century, has risen to power, has really really good teams in the eighties
- 5:00nineties. Of course, you know, played in or won national championship at
- 5:02twenty thirteen with James Winston, got maybe snubbed this year. Florida State's the
- 5:05team that you look at in the ACC and say they could be a flag
- 5:09bearer. Clemson with what they've accomplished Underdablos winning in the last ten fifteen years,
- 5:13they could be a flag bear outside of those two programs in the ACC.
- 5:16Now we're talking football, not basketball. I mean, where else are
- 5:20you going if you're not going Miami as kind of that team that really should
- 5:25be at the top of the conference standings every single year. Mario Christball is
- 5:29a Miami guy, alum, right, he knows how to recruit. We
- 5:30saw that at Oregon, We're seeing that at Miami. The biggest thing for
- 5:34me is can Mario Christo Ball improve really his game management skills, his time
- 5:39management, the way that he calls a game, the way that he affects
- 5:43the game from the sideline. If he can piece that together, you said
- 5:46it, They're putting pieces together. In the transfer portal. They've got a
- 5:48really strong roster. There really is not excuse for Miami. And I'll say
- 5:54this regardless of who the coach is, there's not an excuse now for Miami
- 5:57to not be in the top two or three on a year in and year
- 6:00out basis in the ACC and that should have been the expectation there since they
- 6:03joined the conference in two thousand and five. I believe it was. Of
- 6:06course, they have not been a perennial power in that conference. There's really
- 6:11no excuse. And as the landscape continues to shift in college football with conference
- 6:15realignment, Miami needs to make sure that they're playing at a peak level here
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- 6:26Check them out at the lines. Kelly. Always appreciate your time, have
- 6:29a great week. Look when we talk next week, it'll be a lot
- 6:30about the Super Bowl and we'll tee that up as well as other things as
- 6:33well. Looking forward to it, Jake, appreciate you as always,