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- 0:23Speaker 1: You know, I guess we should begin today's episode by
- 0:27Speaker 1: pointing out that it is not, to our knowledge, sponsored
- 0:30Speaker 1: by Miller Lite. Although we had a lot of fun
- 0:32Speaker 1: with those guys. You had the best tagline of all times.
- 0:36Speaker 1: I'm really surprised they haven't like purchased this from you.
- 0:39Speaker 1: You know, it was a gift. We're just very giving
- 0:41Speaker 1: people on this show, and that is the gift that
- 0:43Speaker 1: keeps on giving in social media form. And I don't
- 0:46Speaker 1: know if they'll ever give us any more ads again.
- 0:47Speaker 1: But what was it again? Then? Uh, Miller Lite. The
- 0:50Speaker 1: beer is so good that you can drink it with
- 0:52Speaker 1: your mouth, and I think that we arrived at that
- 0:56Speaker 1: on our earlier episode about ritual alcohol enemas or ak A.
- 1:01Speaker 1: You're not gonna say it. You're not gonna say it.
- 1:02Speaker 1: I tried to make you say last time. That was
- 1:04Speaker 1: a sore spot. But chugging is the word chugging. Today
- 1:08Speaker 1: we're talking about a different kind of chugging, chugging, chugging
- 1:12Speaker 1: it to the streets. Yes, yes, taking into the streets.
- 1:15Speaker 1: That's well put. Uh, I'm ben oh, I'm null. And
- 1:20Speaker 1: we are of course joined with our super producer Casey
- 1:22Speaker 1: Pegram give it up for and fellow ridiculous historians. Our
- 1:27Speaker 1: journey today takes us to the early eighteen hundreds in
- 1:33Speaker 1: foggy Old London Town October, specifically when a bizarre sequence
- 1:41Speaker 1: of events through the community of St Giles, London into
- 1:46Speaker 1: a state of pand ammonium and terror. What happened and
- 1:50Speaker 1: how did this come to pass? Okay, so let's set
- 1:53Speaker 1: the scene. He already did. Foggy London Town eighteen fourteen. Uh,
- 1:59Speaker 1: there's a brewery, right, There's a brewery called the Horseshoe
- 2:02Speaker 1: Brewery which was located at the corner of Great Russell
- 2:05Speaker 1: Street and Tottenham Court Roads. The Horseshoe Brewery was the building.
- 2:09Speaker 1: It was like this historic brewery and the mu and
- 2:12Speaker 1: Company brewers I guess had taken it over or they
- 2:15Speaker 1: were the ones occupying it at this time, and they
- 2:19Speaker 1: had a They were all about being up to the
- 2:23Speaker 1: latest technological brewing standards, which at the time where giant
- 2:28Speaker 1: wooden vats secured with these iron rings like a giant
- 2:33Speaker 1: barrel basically right, yeah, yeah, these giant barrels girdled with
- 2:37Speaker 1: heavy iron hoops. And this was sort of a a
- 2:42Speaker 1: fad or a trend for breweries at the time, the
- 2:47Speaker 1: vats were meant to be displayed to visitors, right, They
- 2:51Speaker 1: were meant to be a show stopping spectacle and to
- 2:55Speaker 1: impress potential customers. So there was this kind of one
- 2:59Speaker 1: ups ship contest wherein different breweries would try to build
- 3:03Speaker 1: progressively larger vats and barrels. And you just said how
- 3:09Speaker 1: how big these were? To put it in another perspective,
- 3:13Speaker 1: there three stories tall, and as you said, they're built
- 3:16Speaker 1: of wood with just some hoops around them, very heavy
- 3:20Speaker 1: iron hoops for structural integrity. Yeah. And um, let's not
- 3:25Speaker 1: forget the type of beer that was being brewed. Here
- 3:27Speaker 1: was something akin to a stout, like a dark porter ale,
- 3:32Speaker 1: which was very popular at the time. Um, and this
- 3:35Speaker 1: vat would hold three thousand, five hundred barrels of this
- 3:39Speaker 1: brown stuff. And everything is fine for years, for like
- 3:43Speaker 1: four years, everything is fine until it isn't. On October fourteen,
- 3:50Speaker 1: in this area of St. Giles, which we should mention
- 3:52Speaker 1: as a poor area of London, several things are happening.
- 3:56Speaker 1: There is a woman named and Seville who is mourning
- 4:01Speaker 1: the tragic death of her two year old son, John,
- 4:04Speaker 1: who had just died the day earlier. On October six,
- 4:07Speaker 1: and she is mourning in her seller apartment. A lot
- 4:12Speaker 1: of people live in basements in this area. And then upstairs,
- 4:17Speaker 1: on the first floor of this tenement on New Street,
- 4:20Speaker 1: a lady named Mary Banfield is sitting down for tea
- 4:23Speaker 1: with her daughter Hannah, who is four. And then across
- 4:28Speaker 1: across the way or nearby, there is a fourteen year
- 4:31Speaker 1: old named Eleanor Cooper at the Tavistock Arms public House
- 4:35Speaker 1: who's scouring pots. Teenage barmaid. A teenage barmaid, yeah, her
- 4:40Speaker 1: scullery maid. At the very least. She is by this
- 4:44Speaker 1: outdoor water pump that's right next to a brick wall
- 4:47Speaker 1: that's about twenty five ft high. And the brewery that
- 4:50Speaker 1: you mentioned a um that that you described for us
- 4:52Speaker 1: earlier is directly on the other side of that barrier.
- 4:58Speaker 1: They're famous for this porter that you mentioned, and they
- 5:02Speaker 1: produced more than one hundred thousand barrels of this each year.
- 5:06Speaker 1: It was big business. And around four thirty pm that day,
- 5:10Speaker 1: a storehouse clerk named George Crick looks at one of
- 5:14Speaker 1: these huge wooden vats and he's looking at it from
- 5:18Speaker 1: above right, and as he's staring down, he notices something's off.
- 5:24Speaker 1: One of those hoops, which weighs seven hundred pounds, has
- 5:28Speaker 1: slipped off a cask and the porter that storing is
- 5:32Speaker 1: ten months old. Crick has been with the company for
- 5:35Speaker 1: almost two decades, and he knew that this kind of thing,
- 5:40Speaker 1: the slippage of the hoop could happen maybe once the
- 5:45Speaker 1: three times a year, and he didn't think too much
- 5:48Speaker 1: of it. He was just like, sometimes things happen. Were
- 5:50Speaker 1: they not doing proper maintenance on this monstrosity. It's hard
- 5:55Speaker 1: to say, man, you know, they must have had to
- 5:58Speaker 1: do some sort of regular maintenance just because it's would Yeah,
- 6:01Speaker 1: but I imagine that like safety and you know, health
- 6:03Speaker 1: inspections wasn't really much of a thing back in these days,
- 6:07Speaker 1: so that's probably like left their own devices a little bit.
- 6:09Speaker 1: But yeah, so that one who pops off, and you
- 6:11Speaker 1: can imagine like what we're talking like maybe like eight
- 6:14Speaker 1: of these hoops for the giant cask, right, So that's
- 6:18Speaker 1: significantly weakening it structurally, and then um, the other hoops
- 6:24Speaker 1: start to kind of follow suit, or at least the
- 6:27Speaker 1: I don't know, it starts to weaken the entire thing.
- 6:31Speaker 1: It's like a domino effect on this right, Yeah, that's
- 6:34Speaker 1: a good way to put it. So George Creek goes
- 6:37Speaker 1: ahead and fills up the vat all the way almost
- 6:41Speaker 1: to the top, almost to the brim, I think four
- 6:43Speaker 1: inches away from the top, and this like more than
- 6:46Speaker 1: high way. He sees the thing pop off, and then
- 6:48Speaker 1: he's just like a screw it and still sees that
- 6:50Speaker 1: it's slipped. At this point, it slipped, and he told
- 6:54Speaker 1: his boss about it, and his boss said that quote
- 6:57Speaker 1: new home whatever would inceed and sounds like a real
- 7:01Speaker 1: villainous type. I can't help a picture him as such.
- 7:05Speaker 1: And he told Craig. He was just like, George, you
- 7:07Speaker 1: should write a letter to another guy who works at
- 7:11Speaker 1: the brewery and they can fix it later, but we'll
- 7:13Speaker 1: be fine for now. Don't worry about it. And then, uh,
- 7:17Speaker 1: Craig sits down and he he's filled up the vat.
- 7:20Speaker 1: He writes this letter and it's it's about five thirty
- 7:23Speaker 1: when he finishes writing the letter, and then he hears
- 7:25Speaker 1: a massive explosion. Yeah, yeah, a massive explosion that set
- 7:33Speaker 1: forth all of those thousands of barrels of this. It
- 7:38Speaker 1: was hot actually, because it was mid ferment right, just gushing,
- 7:45Speaker 1: and it was so forceful that it actually took out
- 7:49Speaker 1: a wall in the brewery that allowed it to continue
- 7:54Speaker 1: to flood into the streets of that area where he's cribing.
- 7:58Speaker 1: And not to mention that as it went it took
- 8:02Speaker 1: out the other casks that were around as well. They
- 8:06Speaker 1: may have not held the same volume total, but added
- 8:09Speaker 1: up together made for a whole another problem. Right exactly
- 8:13Speaker 1: so that large barrier we mentioned earlier, where the fourteen
- 8:17Speaker 1: year old Eleanor Cooper is working, that wall collapses, it
- 8:22Speaker 1: kills her instantly. The sheer force of this explosion sends
- 8:26Speaker 1: bricks flying through the air across Great Russell Street, and
- 8:31Speaker 1: a deluge of beer rushes through the neighborhood. And it's
- 8:36Speaker 1: sweeping away like this is an actual flood. It's sweeping
- 8:39Speaker 1: away everything in its path. Well, this is like three
- 8:43Speaker 1: d and twenty plus thousand gallons of beer. Yeah, and
- 8:48Speaker 1: that one, that first vat alone held the equivalent of
- 8:51Speaker 1: one million pints of beer. Jesus. And again, as as
- 8:55Speaker 1: we said just a moment ago, that wasn't the only
- 8:58Speaker 1: vat that went, and there was no drainage. We should
- 9:02Speaker 1: mention that on these city streets, there's not like a
- 9:04Speaker 1: sewage system have we talked about the great Stink of London, Ben,
- 9:07Speaker 1: I think we have. Remember how nasty that city was
- 9:10Speaker 1: pre sewage system. You know, it was just the streets
- 9:13Speaker 1: were literally caked in human excrement, and so this beer
- 9:17Speaker 1: is washing all that along with it. People are getting
- 9:20Speaker 1: swept up in the flood. Can you imagine the smell.
- 9:23Speaker 1: It must have been disgusted. I mean, think about how
- 9:25Speaker 1: it smells like downtown Atlanta or somewhere like Little five Points,
- 9:29Speaker 1: like after like a weekend. You know, it just smells
- 9:31Speaker 1: like pea and stale beer, or just outside of our
- 9:35Speaker 1: building building. It's true, this must have been that like
- 9:38Speaker 1: to the mph power, and it happens so quickly it's
- 9:42Speaker 1: difficult for us to fully articulate how quickly this occurs.
- 9:47Speaker 1: People who live in the neighborhood are losing their minds.
- 9:51Speaker 1: They're screaming zoie and what dot, and they're hopping up
- 9:54Speaker 1: on pieces of furniture. They're trying to save themselves from drowning,
- 9:59Speaker 1: which was a real possibility because this flood was so
- 10:03Speaker 1: strong and so forceful that some of the houses that
- 10:06Speaker 1: were in disrepair crumbled themselves. So your house could fall
- 10:12Speaker 1: on you, all right, here's where it gets gross. Okay,
- 10:19Speaker 1: it's already pretty gross at this point, but um, a
- 10:21Speaker 1: lot of the folks were trying to, you know, make
- 10:24Speaker 1: this see the silver lining in this situation. And you know,
- 10:28Speaker 1: likely they were alcoholics because they were just like, hey,
- 10:30Speaker 1: free beer. So they would get like whatever receptacle they
- 10:34Speaker 1: get their hands on, a bucket or whatever and start
- 10:37Speaker 1: scooping this stuff up and drinking it. And some people
- 10:40Speaker 1: just lapped it up off the street. And again, lots
- 10:43Speaker 1: of poop mixed in with this beer at this lots
- 10:46Speaker 1: of lots of poop to try this road dirt road kill. Yeah,
- 10:50Speaker 1: and let's also not forget that this beer was mid fermentation,
- 10:54Speaker 1: so it wasn't even done. Yeah, it was even like
- 10:58Speaker 1: beer beer. So where are we fatality wise at this point? Ben,
- 11:01Speaker 1: As this deluge makes us way through St. Giles Rookery,
- 11:04Speaker 1: another area where I believe some of the city's poorest
- 11:08Speaker 1: we're living. Um, and this is another very sad detail here, Ben.
- 11:13Speaker 1: This happened during the day, so the men would have
- 11:16Speaker 1: been away at work. So the folks that were at
- 11:19Speaker 1: home that would have experience the brunt of this beer
- 11:22Speaker 1: nami would have been children and women right exactly. Let's
- 11:28Speaker 1: explore some of the fatalities. So we mentioned the unfortunate
- 11:32Speaker 1: end of fourteen year old barmaid Eleanor Cooper. She died
- 11:37Speaker 1: pretty quickly, near instantly as far as we can tell.
- 11:40Speaker 1: But let's also revisit some of the characters we introduced
- 11:45Speaker 1: earlier in the story. And Seville, who was mourning again
- 11:50Speaker 1: the death of her two year old son John, was
- 11:54Speaker 1: holding a wake in their basement apartment when the beer
- 12:00Speaker 1: flood hit. They had no time or no way to
- 12:04Speaker 1: get out, so Seville, along with the other three mourners
- 12:09Speaker 1: were all killed by by this beer. And then the
- 12:15Speaker 1: couple that we had mentioned, the mom and daughter having
- 12:17Speaker 1: tea on the first floor of their tenement, Mary Benfield
- 12:22Speaker 1: and her four year old daughter Hannah, they both passed away.
- 12:26Speaker 1: So this this gets us up to let's see Eleanor,
- 12:30Speaker 1: the four mourners, Mary and Hannah. This gets us up
- 12:33Speaker 1: to seven fatalities in a matter of minutes. But that's
- 12:38Speaker 1: not all. There was one more fatality right now. Yeah,
- 12:41Speaker 1: and this is probably a direct result of these booze
- 12:44Speaker 1: scoopers that were talking about earlier that were just you know,
- 12:47Speaker 1: chugging the stuff from the streets, hence my opening phrase
- 12:50Speaker 1: chugging into the streets. And apparently this last death was
- 12:54Speaker 1: alcohol poisoning, and not not to make light, but you know,
- 12:57Speaker 1: it's sort of like you did it to yourself, buddy,
- 12:58Speaker 1: you escaped the act will del use that all of
- 13:01Speaker 1: these innocence you know, we're subjected to, and then you went,
- 13:04Speaker 1: You went and drank yourself to death like a jerk.
- 13:06Speaker 1: Because isn't like half fermented booze dangerous. Isn't it like
- 13:11Speaker 1: ethanol really strong or something like? Oh, I don't know,
- 13:14Speaker 1: I thought so, I know, like moonshine, if you drink
- 13:17Speaker 1: it before it's finished or something like that, it can
- 13:19Speaker 1: be really really dangerous. But I don't know if that applies.
- 13:21Speaker 1: I'm just spit on here. But do we know know
- 13:23Speaker 1: whether or not that was intentional alcohol poisoning? You know
- 13:27Speaker 1: what I mean? Were they just trying not to drown
- 13:30Speaker 1: and they managed to not drown? Interesting? But they unclear?
- 13:34Speaker 1: But uncle, I don't know. I just want to just
- 13:38Speaker 1: not that they need me to defend them, but possibly,
- 13:42Speaker 1: I though I don't want to sound too cynical about it,
- 13:45Speaker 1: I'm tempted to think it's the first idea you proposed,
- 13:49Speaker 1: and that they just drink themselves to death. There could
- 13:52Speaker 1: have been more deaths, more fatalities. It's pretty astonishing in fact,
- 13:56Speaker 1: that so few people died as a result of this
- 14:01Speaker 1: flood this which is say earlier beer nami, like the
- 14:05Speaker 1: worst damage does occur there on New Street, and now
- 14:11Speaker 1: this neighborhood is soaked in beer. Everything stinks. People are
- 14:17Speaker 1: covered in hot malt liquor. Three brewery employees almost died,
- 14:21Speaker 1: but they were luckily pulled from this temporary raging river
- 14:26Speaker 1: and people rescuers arrived on the scene and they were
- 14:29Speaker 1: trying with their bare hands to go through the rubble
- 14:33Speaker 1: and find anyone who is trapped inside, and they had to.
- 14:37Speaker 1: They were in a really weird situation because people are
- 14:40Speaker 1: losing their minds, wailing and screaming, and they're like, you
- 14:43Speaker 1: have to be quiet because we're trying to hear people
- 14:46Speaker 1: in the rubble. Yeah, it's a real scene, ben Um,
- 14:50Speaker 1: And surprise, surprise, this story doesn't have a happy ending
- 14:54Speaker 1: on on multiple levels, on the corporate level, right on
- 14:58Speaker 1: the corporate greed and corrupt and level, there's some real
- 15:02Speaker 1: palm grease and going on here, and some shady backroom
- 15:06Speaker 1: deals that caused, uh, the responsible parties being the brewers,
- 15:13Speaker 1: to kind of get away scott free. And remember Ben,
- 15:16Speaker 1: you mentioned houses were lost, foundations were wrecked, homes were
- 15:21Speaker 1: crumbled because of this. This was that much beer. Can
- 15:24Speaker 1: you believe it? It blows my mind that it would
- 15:25Speaker 1: have kept that momentum going long enough to actually damage
- 15:30Speaker 1: people's properties. I can't even picture the sheer volume of stinking,
- 15:34Speaker 1: brown hot booze. And yeah, this does have a maybe
- 15:39Speaker 1: sobering it's not the right word for this episode, but
- 15:42Speaker 1: it's funny. There is a sobering aspect to this story,
- 15:45Speaker 1: which is that this community was largely composed of Irish
- 15:50Speaker 1: immigrants and newspapers in the establishment at the time very
- 15:54Speaker 1: much looked down on immigrants from Ireland, and the company
- 15:59Speaker 1: that own the brewery eventually did just fine. Because you
- 16:03Speaker 1: would think they would take an enormous financial hit right
- 16:06Speaker 1: from losing literally all of their inventory, killing eight people,
- 16:10Speaker 1: and destroying a neighborhood. But they initially thought they were
- 16:15Speaker 1: going to be in tough times because they had already
- 16:18Speaker 1: paid the excise taxes on the booze. But somehow they
- 16:23Speaker 1: got Parliament to give them a pass and they got
- 16:25Speaker 1: their money back. Yeah. Not only that they got um
- 16:28Speaker 1: Parliament or whatever governing body was overseeing this thing, UH
- 16:34Speaker 1: to rule the disaster. The collapse of this cask as
- 16:39Speaker 1: an act of God, an unavoidable act of God, meaning
- 16:44Speaker 1: no mortal entity could be held responsible, and meaning no
- 16:47Speaker 1: mortal UH got a dime. Right, And this was only
- 16:52Speaker 1: two days after the flood. Jury convened to investigate the accident.
- 16:55Speaker 1: They visited the side of the tragedy, They viewed the
- 16:58Speaker 1: corpses of the victims. They heard testimony from Crick we
- 17:03Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, and as you said, no, they said this
- 17:07Speaker 1: had been an act of God and that the victims
- 17:10Speaker 1: had met their death casually, accidentally, and by misfortune. I
- 17:16Speaker 1: would agree with the last part. I would. It was
- 17:18Speaker 1: definitely a serious case of misfortune. And there was a
- 17:23Speaker 1: lot of speculation about the court being corrupt or bribed,
- 17:28Speaker 1: but there was never an official statement made, and the
- 17:32Speaker 1: brewery soldiered on for a long time, for more than
- 17:36Speaker 1: a century. It wasn't until that it was demolished and
- 17:41Speaker 1: they built something called the Dominion Theater on part of
- 17:44Speaker 1: the site. In two thousand and twelve, there was a
- 17:47Speaker 1: pub in the area. The whole born whippet that's began
- 17:51Speaker 1: marking the Great Beer Flood of eighteen fourteen with a
- 17:56Speaker 1: vat of porter brewed especially for the day, which to
- 18:00Speaker 1: me feels like it's impoor taste. I'm just gonna go
- 18:02Speaker 1: on the record and say that I would agree with
- 18:04Speaker 1: you on the record. So another strange aspect of this
- 18:12Speaker 1: story is that this is not the only strange beverage flood.
- 18:18Speaker 1: I think do we ever mention the Great Molasses Flood.
- 18:21Speaker 1: I don't know if we've done a full episode on it,
- 18:23Speaker 1: but there's definitely a parallel. It's like the American equivalent, yeah,
- 18:27Speaker 1: of this, because I don't know there's ever been another
- 18:28Speaker 1: booze flood kind of like this because they switched after this,
- 18:31Speaker 1: This did bring about some change in the brewing process
- 18:34Speaker 1: where they changed it to concrete casks as opposed to
- 18:37Speaker 1: these shoddy, you know, rickety wooden cast But what's the
- 18:40Speaker 1: Great Molasses Flood? Because it's great as well. We were
- 18:43Speaker 1: talking off air about how it's funny when we have
- 18:45Speaker 1: a date and then the Great a thing, implying there
- 18:49Speaker 1: may have been lesser versions of that, the mediocre beer flood. Yeah,
- 18:53Speaker 1: so the Great Molasses Flood also known as the Boston
- 18:56Speaker 1: Molasses Disaster, occurred in January of nineteen nine teen, when
- 19:00Speaker 1: a huge storage tank of molasses burst, causing molasses to
- 19:05Speaker 1: rush through the streets at like thirty five miles an hour.
- 19:09Speaker 1: Fifty people were injured, twenty one people died. And then
- 19:12Speaker 1: there was the Honolulu Molasses spill, which happened in two
- 19:16Speaker 1: thousand thirteen. So this stuff isn't just ancient history. Luckily,
- 19:20Speaker 1: no humans as far as we know, passed away in
- 19:24Speaker 1: that molasses spill, but it did tremendous damage to the
- 19:27Speaker 1: maritime environment. And then there's one other one. I just
- 19:30Speaker 1: like the name. I don't know if you've heard this name.
- 19:32Speaker 1: No one want to see what you think about it.
- 19:34Speaker 1: The Pepsi fruit Juice Flood. That sounds like a drink,
- 19:38Speaker 1: that sounds like a really cool band. He he has
- 19:41Speaker 1: going to see the Pepsi fruit juice Flood. Red Rocks.
- 19:45Speaker 1: I caught him in Bonnaroo. You know, I just I
- 19:48Speaker 1: love their live work. They've taken a different direction on
- 19:53Speaker 1: the new album. Yeah, the Pepsi Fruit Juice Flood, which
- 19:58Speaker 1: I feel like they might put out his a beverage.
- 20:00Speaker 1: One day was a flood of twenty eight million liters
- 20:03Speaker 1: of fruit and vegetable juice into the streets of a
- 20:06Speaker 1: town in Russia called Lebedian, and it was caused by
- 20:10Speaker 1: the collapse of PepsiCo warehouse. UH No deaths resulted from
- 20:15Speaker 1: the spill, but there were two injuries and the streets
- 20:18Speaker 1: were awash with pineapple, apricot, tangerine, grape, mango, pomegranate, apple, cherry, orange, grapefruit,
- 20:25Speaker 1: and tomato juice. So if you're going to make a
- 20:27Speaker 1: commemorative drink for that, those would be the ingredients. And
- 20:31Speaker 1: I think that would taste pretty nasty, right, it does
- 20:33Speaker 1: seem so that doesn't seem like a very good combination
- 20:35Speaker 1: of flavors. It's like, I did you ever drink V eight?
- 20:39Speaker 1: I like the it splash, but no, not like tomato juice.
- 20:41Speaker 1: If that's what you're asking me, what I'm drink clamato next? Like,
- 20:44Speaker 1: what's the difference between V eight splash and V A.
- 20:47Speaker 1: V A splash has like fruit juices in it. It
- 20:49Speaker 1: has just a little bit. It hides the carrot juice
- 20:52Speaker 1: in the tomato juice. It's veiled. Kids like to drink it.
- 20:55Speaker 1: It's a tasty juice beverage well, you know what, maybe
- 20:58Speaker 1: I'll give it a shot. Well, I have never tried
- 21:00Speaker 1: V eight nor V eight splash have I experience in
- 21:03Speaker 1: all life unlived? No, but it takes. I mean, you
- 21:06Speaker 1: know you you're You've got your path, I got your story.
- 21:11Speaker 1: You know doesn't have to include V eight. Thanks man.
- 21:14Speaker 1: You drink other beverages that you know that I don't.
- 21:17Speaker 1: I don't drink like, uh, milk, I don't drink milk.
- 21:21Speaker 1: You don't drink milk, no nut milk. I feel like
- 21:24Speaker 1: milk is an ingredient. We actually we had this conversation
- 21:27Speaker 1: before with one of our coworkers, a great guy, Paul Deckant,
- 21:32Speaker 1: who also has the nickname Mission Control, and he is
- 21:36Speaker 1: definitely a fan of drinking milk. Wouldn't you say so? Caseys,
- 21:40Speaker 1: Have you guys had that conversation about milk as an
- 21:42Speaker 1: ingredient versus a beverage? I mean I consume it as
- 21:45Speaker 1: a beverage too, So I'm right there with him. I
- 21:48Speaker 1: like chocolate milk. Yeah, same same, I used to Did
- 21:51Speaker 1: you guys ever hear the story? This has nothing to
- 21:54Speaker 1: do with a great beer flood of eighteen fourteen, But
- 21:56Speaker 1: did you guys ever hear this story of I guess
- 22:00Speaker 1: the old urban legend that chocolate milk was originally created
- 22:03Speaker 1: to hide blood clots and impurities. Delicious way to hide it. Okay, well,
- 22:09Speaker 1: Casey on the case, and this ends our tail for today.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning in ridiculous historians. Thank
- 22:18Speaker 1: you super producer, Casey pegram No my friend as always,
- 22:23Speaker 1: Thank you for exploring this strange, disturbing tale. Yeah, there's
- 22:28Speaker 1: a lot going on here. It's sort of a tale
- 22:30Speaker 1: of wealth and poverty and uh, you know, the rich
- 22:33Speaker 1: running rough shod over the poor. We sort of didn't
- 22:36Speaker 1: only see that aspect of it until the end, but um,
- 22:38Speaker 1: it's definitely there. And it's gross. It's gross u philosophically
- 22:43Speaker 1: and also physically gross because it's hot beer rushing through
- 22:47Speaker 1: the poop laden streets of London town right washing away
- 22:50Speaker 1: children having tea parties, I know. And no one got
- 22:54Speaker 1: in trouble. No one went to jail. It's a shame,
- 22:58Speaker 1: but at least it did lead to better or safety standards.
- 23:01Speaker 1: That's true. Speaking of things leading to things, this is
- 23:03Speaker 1: the part of the show where we lead to the
- 23:05Speaker 1: end of the show. Nice see my seg game is
- 23:08Speaker 1: on fire. It's I'm really working on I've been saving
- 23:10Speaker 1: that one. You've been putting in the work. You can
- 23:12Speaker 1: find us on Instagram, you can find us on Facebook,
- 23:14Speaker 1: you can find us on Twitter, but more importantly, you
- 23:17Speaker 1: can find us and your fellow Ridiculous Historians on our
- 23:21Speaker 1: Facebook community page, Ridiculous Historians. Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
- 23:24Speaker 1: There's some good conversation there, some good memory, some good history, weirdness,
- 23:29Speaker 1: good conversation. Already said that all of those things. You
- 23:32Speaker 1: can find it right there, go to Ridiculous Historians. All
- 23:34Speaker 1: you have to do is like name one of our
- 23:36Speaker 1: names or something. And even if you just like make
- 23:37Speaker 1: up something clever, we'll we'll let you in. If it's funny,
- 23:40Speaker 1: we'll let you in totally. We'd like to thank our
- 23:42Speaker 1: research associate Gabe, who helped us out with this one. Um.
- 23:45Speaker 1: We'd also like to thank our buddy Alex Williams, who
- 23:48Speaker 1: composed this theme. Do you think he even knows that
- 23:51Speaker 1: we include a thank you to him in every episode?
- 23:54Speaker 1: Him to him? He had nodded. He's a very demure
- 23:58Speaker 1: kind of dude. Yeah, oh what our comic book recommendation.
- 24:02Speaker 1: Comic book recommendation for today, This one might be a
- 24:04Speaker 1: little on the nose. UM. But I had a friend
- 24:07Speaker 1: tell me how I got the movie version of Watchman
- 24:10Speaker 1: all wrong, how I need to go back and watch
- 24:12Speaker 1: it again. UM. I have not done that yet, but
- 24:14Speaker 1: I really felt like it kind of missed the mark
- 24:17Speaker 1: of what that comic was all about. UM, So I
- 24:19Speaker 1: really recommend going back and revisiting not the movie Watchman,
- 24:22Speaker 1: but the incredible seminal graphic novel Watchman by Alan Moore. UM. Watchman.
- 24:28Speaker 1: I also, oddly enough, have an Alan Moore recommendation that
- 24:32Speaker 1: I was thinking about Providence. Providence is the is this
- 24:38Speaker 1: story of a writer who explores the world of HP Lovecraft,
- 24:44Speaker 1: this guy who kind of who wants to mean HP Lovecraft.
- 24:47Speaker 1: It has all these weird experiences that if you like
- 24:51Speaker 1: HP Lovecraft, you like Alan Moore, you're gonna love this.
- 24:54Speaker 1: That's all I can say. See you next time, folks,
- 25:00Speaker 1: The Sexton Time