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Scheme Insider: How Matt Patricia Has Improved Ohio State's Run Defense · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Thursday, October 22nd. I'm
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  Speaker 1: be one of our Scheme Insider episodes. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: welcome in Michael Pettit. He is our defensive specialist. This
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  Speaker 1: show is going to focus just on the Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: run defense. Guess what tomorrow's show is going to focus on? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you got it. The Ohio State pass defense. The good
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  Speaker 1: news is that there's pretty much good news on both
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  Speaker 1: sides of that, on the run defense and the pass defense. Michael,
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  Speaker 1: looking at the run defense.
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  Speaker 1: It has felt like they have just kind of consistently
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  Speaker 1: gotten better all season. And Matt Patricia is always very
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  Speaker 1: upbeat when we talk to him. We got a chance
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  Speaker 1: to talk to him on Tuesday. He was once again,
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  Speaker 1: very upbeat. He talked, you know, the first name he
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  Speaker 1: mentioned when he was talking about how well they've played
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  Speaker 1: was Edward Houston. Jay Timmons came up as well, but
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  Speaker 1: it just feels like, man, they have taken some really
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  Speaker 1: tangible steps on defense since the start of the season
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  Speaker 1: to improve in a lot of areas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty amazing, honestly. I mean, it's tough thinking
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  Speaker 2: back to that Texas game and thinking that this is
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  Speaker 2: the same defense, especially thinking this is the same defensive
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  Speaker 2: line and stuff like that. I mean, Edrick Houston, he's
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  Speaker 2: been phenomenal. We'll talk about him today. He's got some
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  Speaker 2: highlights on here. But the entire defensive line has really
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  Speaker 2: taken a step forward. The linebackers are also playing better.
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  Speaker 2: And I think they're kind of like settling into a scheme.
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  Speaker 2: You know, early on, I was pretty critical of the
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  Speaker 2: scheme at times. And, you know, admittedly, I think some
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  Speaker 2: of that on my part was like, they're doing some
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  Speaker 2: stuff that I'm not used to seeing. And I had
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that I understood it fully. And I
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  Speaker 2: think I've got a better understanding on it now. And
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  Speaker 2: I also think there's been some other tweaks that have helped.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, this defense has just gotten so much better.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously the run defense is gotten a lot better. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, really running past the events have been really good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty happy about where things are at right now.
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  Speaker 1: So on this show, we're going to be looking at
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  Speaker 1: seven different plays, and it's sort of a combination of
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  Speaker 1: different coverages that they've been working in and different schemes
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  Speaker 1: they've been working in, as well as some different types
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  Speaker 1: of runs that they've been going up against. And this
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  Speaker 1: is going to be mostly a good vibes show for you,
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  Speaker 1: so you can enjoy that. We're going to start with
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  Speaker 1: Tampa 2, and this is one of these things where
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  Speaker 1: we're Generally, when we talk about Tampa 2, that's a
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  Speaker 1: sort of back-end pass coverage kind of thing. So when
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  Speaker 1: you're in that defense, you think, okay, maybe you're a
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  Speaker 1: little more vulnerable against the run. They were able to
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  Speaker 1: be pretty effective against the run in that as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this clip is a good look, this diagram
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  Speaker 2: and this clip, it's a good look at what this
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  Speaker 2: defensive structure is now. They've got three defensive tackles on
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  Speaker 2: the field, usually two four-eyes, and then a nose tackle,
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  Speaker 2: who they sometimes play in a zero-tech right over the center.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes they'll shade them as a one technique. A stand-up
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  Speaker 2: defensive end, usually to the boundary, and then they've got
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  Speaker 2: a flex linebacker to the field. It's not quite close
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  Speaker 2: enough to the line to be what I would consider
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  Speaker 2: a stand-up defensive end, but certainly not in an off-ball
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  Speaker 2: linebacker position either. And it's usually Christian Allegro or Riley
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  Speaker 2: Patajan playing there. You've got your off-ball linebacker. And you've
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  Speaker 2: got three high safeties. Earl Little is the safety who
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  Speaker 2: plays that pole runner spot in the middle of the field.
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  Speaker 2: And so he's kind of in a position to fill
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  Speaker 2: against the run as needed. And that's kind of one
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  Speaker 2: of the keys to this. I think, first of all,
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  Speaker 2: they're only using odd spacing now for the most part.
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  Speaker 2: when they go to this three high package, which is
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  Speaker 2: a lot better, like earlier in the year, they were
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  Speaker 2: using both odd and even spacing, but I think using
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  Speaker 2: odd spacing is best if you're going to use this
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  Speaker 2: approach and they're just executing better. So like right here, Indiana,
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  Speaker 2: you get a good look at the Tampa two coverage
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  Speaker 2: they're running is Indiana's running an ISO draw play, but
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  Speaker 2: this is a great rep from, you know, Riley Pettijohn
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  Speaker 2: really stands out in this rep to me and the
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  Speaker 2: defensive tackles do well. So Indiana runs, because it's a draw,
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  Speaker 2: you get a good look at the initial pass drops,
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  Speaker 2: but the defense reacts so quickly, and this play is
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  Speaker 2: essentially stopped for nothing. But I think just the wide
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  Speaker 2: view of this play is a pretty good look at
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  Speaker 2: the overall kind of structure of this defense as it
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  Speaker 2: currently stands.
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  Speaker 1: All right, next up, we're going to watch them try
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  Speaker 1: and stop Indiana's inside zone, and this is one of
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  Speaker 1: these plays where We've talked a bunch about gaps and
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  Speaker 1: do they have all the gaps covered earlier in this year?
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  Speaker 1: And there was a lot of questions about, okay, are
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  Speaker 1: they doing it correctly? What's the scheme here? Do you
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  Speaker 1: have all the gaps covered? This is one where you
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  Speaker 1: watch from the end zone view and it's like, yep,
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  Speaker 1: you can see exactly what they're trying to do. And
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  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, there's a gap. And then boom, there's
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  Speaker 1: a little to wrap them up and make a stop
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  Speaker 1: for not much.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Earl Little has just been a phenomenal player.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they like him in this middle safety, this
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  Speaker 2: pull spot, because, you know, again, against the pass, he'll
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  Speaker 2: be in coverage. But Earl Little is a very aggressive player.
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  Speaker 2: This puts him in a spot to come fill against
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  Speaker 2: the run. And really what his job is in this
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  Speaker 2: defense is, like, to fill wherever's needed. And that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of what he does here.
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  Speaker 1: So....
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  Speaker 2: Here, you're going to see a gap open up. What
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  Speaker 2: they're having the defensive linemen do on some levels, they're
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  Speaker 2: playing a gap and a half, which means it's almost
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  Speaker 2: like they're responsible for two gaps. They've got a primary
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  Speaker 2: gap that if the ball declares to a different gap,
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  Speaker 2: they're also supposed to fill that too. I know it
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  Speaker 2: sounds unsound, but it is pretty common. Little is just
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  Speaker 2: filling as needed. You're going to see him do that here,
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  Speaker 2: get downhill pretty quickly. stop the ball carrier on this.
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  Speaker 2: And this is just a good example of Little being
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  Speaker 2: just really good in this role.
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  Speaker 1: All right, next up, we're going to start that. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to watch them defend a couple of counter plays.
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  Speaker 1: First one is GT counter, which is guard first, then tackle.
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  Speaker 1: That's how they designate it. You get the guard pulling
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  Speaker 1: first and then the tackle. That's the G and the T.
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  Speaker 1: This is one where this is a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: an Edric Houston appreciation clip, but You watch the end
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  Speaker 1: zone on this one and it's like, man, there is,
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  Speaker 1: you want to look at what nothing there looks like?
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  Speaker 1: This is what nothing there looks like in the run game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And I think a big reason for that
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  Speaker 2: is what I believe to be a schematic tweak and
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  Speaker 2: not just a player making a play. I think it's both.
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  Speaker 2: We'll give them both credit. They both deserve it. But
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  Speaker 2: so usually when a guard pulls, the defensive tackle over
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  Speaker 2: the guard, which is like Edric Houston in this case,
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  Speaker 2: depending on the defensive call, they're either going to hold
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  Speaker 2: that gap or they're going to fight over the top
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  Speaker 2: of like the center's block, just one gap. But Edward
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  Speaker 2: Houston here tracks the guard all the way across the
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  Speaker 2: formation to where the ball is supposed to hit. And
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  Speaker 2: that's not something very many defensive lines are coached to do. Ironically,
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  Speaker 2: one of the only defensive lines I've seen who's coached
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  Speaker 2: to do that on a regular basis is Indiana, um,
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  Speaker 2: which makes sense. It kind of goes along with their
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  Speaker 2: whole stunting and twisting mentality, but yeah, you'll watch this.
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  Speaker 2: Edward Houston, um, You know, once the guard pulls, he's
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  Speaker 2: not just moving over one gap. He's tracking and following
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  Speaker 2: that guard all the way across the formation. And he's
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  Speaker 2: the one who meets the ball carrier, which I would
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  Speaker 2: say in the hole. But as you kind of pointed out,
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  Speaker 2: there's really no hole here. It's completely shut down. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this was an interesting tweak in my opinion. And just,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a great way to, you know, show Edgar
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  Speaker 2: Houston some love and appreciation because he's been playing so well.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so that was GT counter. Now we're going
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  Speaker 1: to go to GY counter. So instead of guard and tackle,
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  Speaker 1: you've got a guard and a tight end pulling on
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  Speaker 1: this one. And instead of Edric Houston, this is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a Will Smith play. And man, that felt
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  Speaker 1: like the best game of Will Smith's career by a
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  Speaker 1: not insignificant margin on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: It was absolutely the best game of Will Smith's career.
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  Speaker 2: And on a similar note, we're going to get to
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  Speaker 2: this other guy later, but the other Smith, James Smith,
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  Speaker 2: had his best game of the season as well. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the whole defensive line room was very, very good. So
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  Speaker 2: this is another example. I've got the safeties circled here
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  Speaker 2: just to, again, just kind of for a look at
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  Speaker 2: the three-high structure. Earl Little does come down and help
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  Speaker 2: and run support on this play. Once again, you're going
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  Speaker 2: to see Edrick Houston track this guard all the way
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  Speaker 2: across the formation. It's kind of amazing, though, because the
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  Speaker 2: center is able to just straight-up tackle Edrick Houston, and
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  Speaker 2: of course there's no flag, but when Carson Hinsman cleanly
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  Speaker 2: pancakes an Indiana defensive tackle. There's apparently a flag. So
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to show that. But again, you see
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  Speaker 2: this little tweak here. But yeah, you've got Will Smith
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  Speaker 2: here making a play. And this isn't the first play
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  Speaker 2: we're going to cover of Will Smith today either. But
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  Speaker 2: just again, just a really good look. This run defense,
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  Speaker 2: this defensive front is really starting to control things at
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  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage throughout the course of games.
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  Speaker 1: All right, the next one is full. You just have
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  Speaker 1: it labeled as full line reduction, which sounds like you
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  Speaker 1: need to put the defensive line at a low simmer
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  Speaker 1: for several hours on the stove. I'm guessing that's not
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  Speaker 1: what it actually means. But this is one, once again,
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  Speaker 1: this is another Will Smith play.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So a line reduction, that's just kind of a
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  Speaker 2: fancy way to say that you're slanting your defensive line
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  Speaker 2: one way completely. Like everyone's just going to slant over
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  Speaker 2: one gap. So here, you know, they start in an
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  Speaker 2: odd front, odd spacing, um, and, uh, everyone is just
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  Speaker 2: going to slant over one gap to their right, our
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  Speaker 2: left from where we're looking at on the screen. And
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  Speaker 2: it's just a good example of like how stunting and
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  Speaker 2: moving can put guys in positions to make plays. Like
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  Speaker 2: I often kind of refer to this type of stuff
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  Speaker 2: as like a cheap tackle for loss. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: trying to like diminish it, but I refer to it
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  Speaker 2: as being cheap because like the player didn't do anything.
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  Speaker 2: Like the stunt that was called for the players, what
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  Speaker 2: got him in the backfield was, Like, which, again, I
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  Speaker 2: don't even want to diminish the player's effort from there.
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  Speaker 2: But the point is, it's like we see Ohio State's
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  Speaker 2: offensive line struggle with these. And it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think when I think when offensive linemen get beat
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  Speaker 2: this way, I think they're the ones they probably view
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  Speaker 2: it as cheap. Like they don't like this. They would
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  Speaker 2: rather block people straight up. But, you know, Patricia mixed
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  Speaker 2: in these line reductions a couple of times. And here,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you get to see Will Smith make another
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  Speaker 2: good play.
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  Speaker 1: Next up, we're going to be looking at a play
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  Speaker 1: where Indiana's running wine back, and that's a play we've
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  Speaker 1: talked about a bunch on the offensive shows. Now you're
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  Speaker 1: going to kind of get the flip side of it,
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  Speaker 1: where how does the defense defend it? This is a
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  Speaker 1: James Smith play, but this is also a TJ Alford play.
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  Speaker 1: Those are two more guys who have been really solid and,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, feels like taking some significant steps over the
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  Speaker 1: last month or so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, TJ Alford, man, he's really impressed me recently.
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  Speaker 2: You know, early in the year, there was a lot
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  Speaker 2: of calls for TJ Alford to play more. And I
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  Speaker 2: was kind of watching and like, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: quite get the, get the reasoning behind that yet. Like
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  Speaker 2: all the, I don't quite get the hype behind it yet,
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  Speaker 2: but in recent weeks, he's, he's really improved. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you can just tell his, his instincts, the way he
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  Speaker 2: reads plays have gotten so much better. And so that's
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  Speaker 2: really great to see him coming on. Um, another interesting
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  Speaker 2: thing about this play is, uh, this just shows you
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  Speaker 2: how highly they think of Earl Little and, you know, um,
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  Speaker 2: how versatile of a player Earl Little is because they're
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  Speaker 2: in cover one here, which is why Earl Little is
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  Speaker 2: walked down over that tight end. Um, the tight end
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  Speaker 2: who's right outside of Indiana's right tackle. And, but essentially
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  Speaker 2: by being walked down there on a play like this,
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  Speaker 2: Earl Little really is just, you know, a second off
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  Speaker 2: ball linebacker, but they like him in that position. They
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  Speaker 2: like him when he's, you know, near the ball. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, the offense is running a windback insert. So
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  Speaker 2: this is like a typical windback, but instead of that
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  Speaker 2: tight end blocking down and the windback player coming all
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  Speaker 2: the way around, they're kind of just going to create
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  Speaker 2: a hole for that windback player to come through. So
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  Speaker 2: it's like an insert or an iso play. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the star of the show in this play was definitely
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  Speaker 2: James Smith and He had some other plays, too. I
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  Speaker 2: know he's been a guy who most Buckeye fans have
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  Speaker 2: been kind of underwhelmed by. I think they expected a
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  Speaker 2: little more from the transfer. But I'll tell you, man,
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday, he had some really, really good reps. I
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  Speaker 2: think he's definitely trending in the right direction.
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  Speaker 1: All right, and the last one we're going to look at,
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  Speaker 1: this is a cat blitz. I'm pretty sure this is
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  Speaker 1: the first time we've talked about this particular blitz. uh,
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  Speaker 1: this particular blitz concept on one of these shows. So
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  Speaker 1: explain a cat blitz.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, a cat blitz is just a fancy
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  Speaker 2: way to say a cornerback blitz. Um, and, uh, this
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  Speaker 2: is against the run here, but you know, you can
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  Speaker 2: kind of tell the coverage is fire zone. Uh, so
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  Speaker 2: that's three deep, three underneath coverage. And you'll see that
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  Speaker 2: I have the, uh, the safety kind of marked as
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  Speaker 2: being in man coverage on that wide receiver to the boundary,
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  Speaker 2: but that's pretty common. Usually on these cornerback fire zones, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have the safety kind of take that
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  Speaker 2: receiver and man coverage instead of just dropping back as
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  Speaker 2: a zone defender. Just, you know, because you're leaving the corner.
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  Speaker 2: The corner's leaving the play. He's blitzing. So, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this is against the run. So I just wanted everyone
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  Speaker 2: to be able to get a wide view of this
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  Speaker 2: play first, and then we'll look at it from the
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  Speaker 2: end zone view as well. But, The end zone view, again,
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  Speaker 2: because they're running that cap blitz, everyone has to get
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  Speaker 2: over a gap, so you've got that full line reduction
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  Speaker 2: built into this already. The star of the show in
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  Speaker 2: this play is Jason Moore. My, what a surprise is
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  Speaker 2: Jason Moore, Ben. This was a guy who did virtually
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  Speaker 2: nothing through his first three years at Ohio State, and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of that wasn't his fault. He had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of bad injury luck, and at one point, like
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  Speaker 2: in 2024, you had Tyleek Williams, Ty Hamilton, Kaden McDonald,
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  Speaker 2: Hero Canoe, Edrick Houston. You have all of those guys
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  Speaker 2: in one defensive tackle room as it was. So tough
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  Speaker 2: to get on the field with that much in front
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  Speaker 2: of you. And he's had some bad luck. But man,
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  Speaker 2: Jason Moore has been really good this year. He's the
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  Speaker 2: starting nose tackle. And here you see him make a
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  Speaker 2: good play. He had multiple good plays on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so there you go. A run through seven
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  Speaker 1: plays against the Indiana run game and how the Buckeyes
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  Speaker 1: defended them. On the next show, we're going to take
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  Speaker 1: a look at the pass defense. There's mostly good news
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  Speaker 1: there as well. The vibes on the Ohio State offense
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  Speaker 1: this week, a little mix. The vibes on the Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State defense, pretty darn good. Of course, they head to
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  Speaker 1: USC next week, and that is generally the Lincoln-Riley teams.
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  Speaker 1: You're generally more worried about your pass defense and how
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  Speaker 1: it will hold up than your run defense. So we'll
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  Speaker 1: be looking at that on tomorrow's show. And if you
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  Speaker 1: our Scheme Insiders. Get the very best in Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: Scheme information all in one convenient spot. at buckeyeinsiders.com. And
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  Speaker 1: thanks again to our friends at Jeffery's of Columbus, the
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  Speaker 1: award-winning upscale steakhouse in downtown Columbus, named one of the
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  Speaker 1: top 50 steakhouses in America by Food Network. Just go
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  Speaker 1: to jeffery.com slash Columbus to check out the menu and
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  Speaker 1: make a reservation today. That'll do it for today. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you guys all for joining us. Have a great day.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow.