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- Lucas: So, Glossier. The brand that basically built a billion-dollar company by treating its customers like co-founders rather than consumers. Luna: And it worked. But how much of that was timing, and how much was actual strategy? Lucas: That's the question. And I think the answer is both, but let's untangle it. Glossier started in 2014, spun out of Emily Weiss's blog, Into The Gloss, which already had a massive following by then. The blog had this 'Top Shelf' series where celebrities and editors showed their beauty routines, and it had built this intimate community around real conversations about products. Luna: Right, so they had the audience before they even had a product. That's the dream. Lucas: Exactly. But the key wasn't just having the audience; it was how they listened. Weiss and her team would literally read the comments, ask questions, and let those answers shape what they made. For example, the very first product, a cleanser called Milky Jelly, was born out of a comment thread where readers kept talking about how they wanted a gentle, non-stripping cleanser they could use in the shower. Luna: So they didn't just ask for feedback after the fact; they let the community define the product spec. That's co-creation from day one. Lucas: Precisely. And they formalized that process. They called it the 'Glossier Reps' program, where they recruited superfans to share the brand in their own words, on their own social channels. But the bigger innovation was that they built a product development loop that constantly pulled from customer input. They'd launch a product, monitor what people said, then iterate. Luna: And that's why the brand felt so personal. It wasn't a faceless corporation pushing a one-size-fits-all routine. It was like your friend recommending something. Lucas: And that's exactly the marketing play. They turned their customers into their media channel. Glossier didn't need big ad budgets because their customers were out there doing the marketing for them, just by sharing their routines and their 'get ready with me' videos featuring the products. It's a flywheel. Luna: But flywheels can slow down. I remember when Glossier had that moment around 2020 where they had to lay off staff and pivot to more traditional e-commerce. Did the community approach start to hit a ceiling? Lucas: It did, and that's the honest part. When the brand scaled to millions of customers, the intimate feedback loop got diluted. You can't read every comment when you have five million followers. And the 'co-creation' can start to feel less genuine when you're a big company. But the early years, from 2014 to about 2018, are a masterclass in using community as a growth engine. Luna: So for a smaller brand today, what's the takeaway? Is it still replicable, or is that window closed? Lucas: I'd say it's replicable but harder. The window isn't closed, but the landscape is louder. The core principle still works: build a channel where you can have genuine two-way conversations with your most engaged customers, and let that drive what you make. You don't need a billion-dollar blog; you can do it on a Discord server or a private Facebook group. Luna: And that's something we've seen with brands like Glossier and also with smaller indie brands today. The 'community' is the moat. Lucas: Exactly. But it's not just about having a community; it's about actually listening. And Glossier had a secret weapon in that early phase: they were early to Instagram, early to the 'no-makeup makeup' aesthetic, and they tapped into a cultural shift toward authenticity and personal expression. That timing was huge. Luna: And the products were actually good. You can't build a billion-dollar brand on just community if the product is mediocre. Lucas: No, and that's a crucial point. Co-creation isn't a substitute for quality; it's a way to make sure quality is aligned with what people actually want. Glossier's Boy Brow, for instance, became a cult product because it solved a real problem that women kept talking about: unruly eyebrows. The community practically demanded it. Luna: And they launched it with a very clever social media campaign, right? They sent samples to micro-influencers, not just the big names. Lucas: Right. They used micro-influencers who had authentic connections with their followers, which felt more like a friend's recommendation than a paid ad. And that's a lesson a lot of brands still haven't fully absorbed: sometimes a hundred small voices are louder than one megaphone. Luna: So what's the one thing you'd tell a marketer listening who wants to apply this to their own brand? Lucas: Don't just collect feedback; act on it visibly. When Glossier would launch a new shade or a new product that came directly from customer requests, they'd say 'you asked, we listened.' That transparency builds trust and reinforces the feeling of co-creation. Show your customers that their voice matters. Luna: And that's a powerful feedback loop. It makes customers feel invested, so they talk about the brand even more. Lucas: It's a beautiful cycle. And actually, that reminds me of something we've been thinking about here at the show. A lot of what we do, exploring these marketing stories every day, is only possible because a small group of listeners chips in monthly through buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. It's that same principle: the people who listen and support directly shape what we make. No ads, just listener support. Luna: And we genuinely read every message we get from supporters. It's how we decide what to cover next. So if you're into what we're doing and want to keep it ad-free, that's the way to help. Lucas: Yeah, exactly. And on that note, back to Glossier. One thing I find fascinating is how they handled the community as they grew. They had to evolve from a small, tight-knit group to a broader audience without losing the essence. And that's a challenge every brand faces at some point. Luna: Did they do it well? Lucas: I think they did, at least for a while. They kept their tone consistent, they kept the 'skin first' messaging, and they continued to involve customers in things like naming products. But, as we said, the magic is hard to sustain at scale. But the lessons from that early period are still so valuable. Luna: So if you're a marketer today, what's the actionable takeaway? How do you start co-creating with your customers? Lucas: Start small. Pick one channel where your most engaged customers hang out, and ask them a specific question about a product or a piece of content. Then, actually implement one of their ideas, and credit them. Show them you're listening. That's the seed of a community-driven brand. Luna: And it doesn't have to be a huge production. It can be as simple as a poll on Instagram or a question in your email newsletter. Lucas: Exactly. And that's what makes this approach so accessible. You don't need a massive budget; you need genuine curiosity and a willingness to hand over some control. That's hard for a lot of brands, but it's what sets Glossier apart. Luna: So, the next time you're launching a product, think about how your customers can be part of the process, not just the target. Lucas: That's it. And that's the lasting lesson from Glossier's rise. It's not about the hashtag or the aesthetic; it's about building a brand with people, not at them. Luna: And that's something we can all apply, whether you're selling skincare or software. Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you next time.