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Midday Missing - Bianca Carrasco · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Speaker 1: you all about Bianca Crossco in her disappearance on our
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  Speaker 1: July twenty second episode, and today we have her sister,
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  Speaker 1: Yovanna Bernie, on with us to help give us further
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  Speaker 1: details and information about her sister's disappearance. So I want
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  Speaker 1: to welcome you, Hi, Yovanna, how are you?
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  Speaker 2: I am?
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for being patient. I actually help coach my
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  Speaker 3: daughter's volleyball team and we're about to head into the season.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, it's it happens. Life gets in the way.
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  Speaker 1: I just hope you've cooled off because it is hotter
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  Speaker 1: than haities here in Texas today. My water, I know
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  Speaker 1: I've got fight too, and I'm like, my third is
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  Speaker 1: very hot, very hot. So well, thank you for agreeing
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  Speaker 1: to come on and talk with us about Bianca. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm still wearing my bracelets. Got lucky that they're pink
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  Speaker 1: and that's my signature color, so I can wear them
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  Speaker 1: every day.
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  Speaker 3: Because I was looking at your chair, Beyonca, would I
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  Speaker 3: have loved your chair?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm a pink girl. People say, is pink your
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  Speaker 1: favorite color? And I say, no, I am pink. That's
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  Speaker 1: just the way it is. That was beyond oh c
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  Speaker 1: and we're both July babies, so we have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of similarities there. But before we get into the questions
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  Speaker 1: and talking about Beyonica, I just want to recap for
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  Speaker 1: anybody who didn't see the July twenty second one. Bianca
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  Speaker 1: went missing on May fir twenty sixteen after an argument
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  Speaker 1: with her husband. Now, according to Bianca's husband, Bianca walked
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  Speaker 1: out of the house after an argument and basically, guys,
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  Speaker 1: he's saying she left behind her children and her life,
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  Speaker 1: and today Bianca has not been found. So if Anna,
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  Speaker 1: can you before we get her, tell us a little
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  Speaker 1: bit about Bianca and what she was like as a person.
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  Speaker 1: Besides the fact she was perfect and left pink.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she was really funny.
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  Speaker 3: You'll hear me say this so many times, probably people
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  Speaker 3: watching right now. I say that a lot if they've
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  Speaker 3: been following. But she really was funny. She's so witty
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  Speaker 3: because I say funny, she was witty. She could just
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  Speaker 3: come up with something outrageous that would just make you laugh,
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  Speaker 3: especially during hard times like this. So I really miss her,
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  Speaker 3: miss having that in my life, just that presence in
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  Speaker 3: my life.
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  Speaker 2: She was such a good nurse.
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  Speaker 3: She was very committed to her career, but not just
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  Speaker 3: as a career. She just really loved her patients and
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  Speaker 3: wanted to help. She always said she wanted to change
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  Speaker 3: lives and that was her way to do it. And
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  Speaker 3: she loved her children. She was an overcomer and so
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  Speaker 3: some that may have already heard a podcast or something,
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  Speaker 3: they may have heard her story. They know that she's
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  Speaker 3: gone through a lot of really not easy things, and you.
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  Speaker 2: Can see that.
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  Speaker 3: I can see that as a big sister, how much
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  Speaker 3: she was growing since she's become a mommy and always overcoming,
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  Speaker 3: always trying to be better and do better than than
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  Speaker 3: what we had.
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  Speaker 2: And that was my sister.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, I mean I love that she was a
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  Speaker 1: nurse because I I've been in the hospital so many
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  Speaker 1: times in my life, but nurses, I can tell you,
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  Speaker 1: I've had some amazing nurses that I think they actually
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  Speaker 1: helped me heal faster because they were just so positive
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  Speaker 1: and so kind and I didn't feel stupid by asking questions.
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  Speaker 1: And then I've had others that weren't so great. But
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  Speaker 1: I have to say, I truly think that you heal
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  Speaker 1: faster when you have someone that you know truly cares
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  Speaker 1: and that they have empathy for what you're going through.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, so I definitely believe that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, now she was a mother, she had was it
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  Speaker 1: three children? Is that right? Three children? Okay? Now, how
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  Speaker 1: would you describe your relationship with Bianca before she went missing?
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  Speaker 1: Because everything I've heard and seen, I kind of think
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  Speaker 1: you too were close, But I wanted to know was
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  Speaker 1: it always like that?
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  Speaker 2: No? I mean, the thing is what we've always been close.
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  Speaker 3: We just had when you look at the ages, we
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  Speaker 3: just really come from a lot of hard stuff. And
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  Speaker 3: when I think of my sister and our relationship, it
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  Speaker 3: was like we were always fighting against you know, whatever
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  Speaker 3: challenges work on us, you know, and our relationship was
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  Speaker 3: the same.
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  Speaker 2: We just always we're trying to stick by each other.
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  Speaker 3: We would say, she would say that we fought hard,
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  Speaker 3: but we loved harder and that's how we were.
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  Speaker 2: And so something like this.
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  Speaker 3: She would have absolutely been doing. I think she might
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  Speaker 3: have had more wisdom as to what to do because
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  Speaker 3: I was never in a true crime, but she was.
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  Speaker 3: So I think about that. I think about how right
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  Speaker 3: before she was missing, I get emotional. I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 3: I think about the thing she wasn't sharing to protect me.
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  Speaker 3: She knew, she knew I would be worried about things.
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  Speaker 1: So well, now is she the big sister, You're the
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  Speaker 1: big sister.
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  Speaker 2: I'm the big sister.
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  Speaker 1: She worried about her.
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  Speaker 3: She did not want me to worry about her, and
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  Speaker 3: she knew that I did worry about her. I was
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  Speaker 3: always up in her business, you know. But that's something
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  Speaker 3: I think about too. My sister would not have just
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  Speaker 3: been out letting me be out here talking, crying in
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  Speaker 3: front of everybody all the time. Whenever I cried, Bianca
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  Speaker 3: knew something was really wrong. She was the crier. I
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  Speaker 3: wasn't the crier.
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  Speaker 2: And so.
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  Speaker 3: I just think of all the moments that it's in
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  Speaker 3: the news and I'm crying or I'm on it. She
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't have let that happen. She would have been like,
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  Speaker 3: oh wait a minute, what happened to my you know,
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  Speaker 3: what's going on with my sister? Something that's really silly
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  Speaker 3: that I say. I know.
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  Speaker 2: That's why she didn't walk away. She wouldn't have done that.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, I hear that from so many people,
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  Speaker 1: and I just got goose bumps from that. Because everything
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  Speaker 1: I've heard and seeing about your sister, I can't imagine
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  Speaker 1: she would have put you or her children through it.
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  Speaker 1: She wouldn't because she had overcome so many things. She
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  Speaker 1: couldn't have overcome what she was going through. She seemed
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  Speaker 1: to have that tenacity to do it.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: And I do think she was in a hard chapter
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  Speaker 3: of her life about to go through a divorce. I
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  Speaker 3: think she was scared, but I don't that just wasn't
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  Speaker 3: my sister to just walk away from everything. She just
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't have done that. She worked too hard. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you said it. She worked too hard, and she wasn't perfect.
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  Speaker 3: You know, she wasn't perfect.
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  Speaker 1: None of us are, I six say, is any one.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: No, none of us are. I think that's why I
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  Speaker 3: hate some of the comments that people make on her story.
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  Speaker 3: People are so mean.
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  Speaker 1: But oh, I have to tell you, I have a
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  Speaker 1: huge problem with these people who get behind a keyboard
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  Speaker 1: and say things. And I have had to bite my
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  Speaker 1: tongue and not engage them because I know that's what
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  Speaker 1: they're looking for and they want that. But I have
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  Speaker 1: seen some of the most disrespectful things, not on Bianca's
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  Speaker 1: but on others, and I just really want to pick
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  Speaker 1: up the phone and call people and say who raised you,
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  Speaker 1: who raised you?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it is really sad when you when you see
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  Speaker 3: comments like that. I of course, in the beginning of
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  Speaker 3: this that would make me outrage, but now it's like,
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  Speaker 3: I just feel so sorry for you and I.
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  Speaker 2: Would not pray or wish this on anyone to go
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  Speaker 2: through this, and it's just yeah, I don't know, it's just.
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  Speaker 1: Sad it is.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Can you walk us through the days up leading to
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  Speaker 1: Bianca's disappearance and what was going on in her life.
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  Speaker 3: I'll try to do a short version. There was there's
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  Speaker 3: so much to it the.
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  Speaker 1: Way there is, and I'm going to stop you real
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  Speaker 1: quick and just let people know her watching. On our
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  Speaker 1: Facebook page, we are reposting all of the podcasts who
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  Speaker 1: are covering this news articles because it is a big
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  Speaker 1: story and we could probably do five or six episodes
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  Speaker 1: on it if you want to know the truth. There
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  Speaker 1: is so much, so I am going to recommend anyone
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  Speaker 1: go and listen to the others and search it out
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  Speaker 1: because there is a lot. So yeah, just give us
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  Speaker 1: kind of an overview.
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  Speaker 3: I would just say the days leading up to her disappearance,
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  Speaker 3: there was a lot of fighting going on. He had
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  Speaker 3: found out that she was seeing someone else, nothing serious,
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  Speaker 3: but enough that was enough for him, based on the
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  Speaker 3: kind of guy he was. I think it just sent
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  Speaker 3: like a Everything was chaos, just the kids, him driving
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  Speaker 3: all around Texas.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why.
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  Speaker 3: It was just really chaotic, and Bianca trying to figure
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  Speaker 3: out what do I do next. That Sunday though, that
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  Speaker 3: she witnessing during the day, I spoke to her, and
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  Speaker 3: she seemed very calm.
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  Speaker 2: She seemed she seemed.
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  Speaker 3: To have They must have had I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: they had a talk or something when he got back
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  Speaker 3: in town, but that she knew what she had to
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  Speaker 3: do and she was gonna meet with the lawyer that Friday.
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  Speaker 3: I asked her if she needed help with anything, she
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  Speaker 3: needed to come stay with me, you're in Houston, if
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  Speaker 3: she needed help with the kids whatever.
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  Speaker 2: She said, No, she was okay, Everything was okay. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 3: She could not have Maybe, like I said, she kept
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  Speaker 3: stuff from me so that I didn't worry.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. She just sounded calm, and I talked
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  Speaker 2: to her, got to tell her I love her, and.
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  Speaker 3: From then on she did a few snapchats that day.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know what happened. There's phone pains, but nothing.
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  Speaker 3: She was at home, her phone last pined at home,
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  Speaker 3: and so on Monday, when I tried to get a
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  Speaker 3: hold of her, I couldn't straight to voicemail, texts not
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  Speaker 3: going through. Get a hold of him in the late
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  Speaker 3: afternoon and he tells me that they got into a
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  Speaker 3: fight last night, which would have been Sunday night, and
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  Speaker 3: she walked on foot away from their homes.
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  Speaker 2: That's the story.
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  Speaker 3: Her phone's never been turned back on, never pinged anywhere else. Again,
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  Speaker 3: There's been no activity on anything, her nursing license, Like,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's money.
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  Speaker 1: And her phone was not at home or it was no.
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  Speaker 3: It last pinged at home, but there has been where's
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  Speaker 3: her phone?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if she took off walking and took her
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  Speaker 1: phone with her, you would think it would ping somebodywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm not a detectives. But that's just my little
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  Speaker 1: common sense brain thinking, Now, you reported her missing, what
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  Speaker 1: was the initial response from law enforcement?
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  Speaker 3: So Monday I didn't report her missing because it was
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  Speaker 3: really confusing. I found out that the kids were left
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  Speaker 3: alone overnight that Sunday night.
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  Speaker 2: So he said he left.
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  Speaker 3: He took off to Odessa, Texas for those who don't
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  Speaker 3: live in Texas, San Antonio and Odessa.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, five hours west. Nothing all.
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  Speaker 1: He left the children at home alone. Now they weren't
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  Speaker 1: old enough to be left at home alone, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I think that set me the most initially, that they
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  Speaker 3: were left home alone.
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  Speaker 1: How old was the oldest?
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  Speaker 2: Nine?
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  Speaker 1: And the police didn't find that a problem?
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  Speaker 3: Well, CPS to get involved, Child Protective Services they got
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  Speaker 3: involved that week. There was a whole separate case for that.
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  Speaker 3: But just trying to get a hold of her, and
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  Speaker 3: then he was discouraging me from reporting her missing.
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  Speaker 2: But I knew something was wrong. I just knew it.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't good. It was crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And so Tuesday when she didn't show up for work
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  Speaker 3: again when I called and find out she didn't, And
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  Speaker 3: she wouldn't have not called if she was going to
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  Speaker 3: not show up.
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  Speaker 2: That's just her work ethic was so.
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  Speaker 1: She was a nurse, she wouldn't want to leave her
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  Speaker 1: patients and.
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  Speaker 3: Even her like she had a hard time calling in
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  Speaker 3: for like if she was sick, she just did not.
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  Speaker 3: That just wasn't her work ethic. She was going to
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  Speaker 3: push through whatever she needed to do to not miss
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  Speaker 3: a day work.
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  Speaker 2: So that was off in the very beginning, when.
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  Speaker 3: They told me that she didn't come in again, no call,
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  Speaker 3: no show, nobody can get ahold of her.
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  Speaker 2: That's when I I made.
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  Speaker 3: The phone call to police, and I had to call
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  Speaker 3: Houston police first. San Antonio wouldn't accept it because I'm
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  Speaker 3: here in Houston, So I did that. They came to
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  Speaker 3: my house, took a report, tried to call him and
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  Speaker 3: he's on speaker and they asked him, uh, is this
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  Speaker 3: show Danos Cross going? He says, they have the wrong number.
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  Speaker 3: And then from there there was just so many things.
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  Speaker 1: That Okay, he lied to the police, and did you
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  Speaker 1: have the wrong number?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, to the Houston Police Department.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, Okay, yeah, I'm gonna just say he's making himself
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  Speaker 1: look a little suss.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean there was a lot of things like
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  Speaker 2: that too before that.
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  Speaker 3: But I finally get through to San Antonio because it's
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  Speaker 3: the whole thing, the whole the same story, and adults
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  Speaker 3: allowed to walk away if they want to, and I
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  Speaker 3: just had to keep giving them all everything, like all
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  Speaker 3: the information. I knew everything leading up to her disappearance,
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  Speaker 3: what was going on.
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  Speaker 2: That's that was a big thing for me.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, no way there was too much going on
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  Speaker 3: before that you had something happened, and they got her
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  Speaker 3: listed Tuesday night. Initially it seemed like they would help.
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  Speaker 3: They were, you know, they searched the home, cars to dabberdogs,
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  Speaker 3: We got texts equa search to come to her peeing locations.
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  Speaker 3: It was there at her home and they got to
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  Speaker 3: question him. Once asked him.
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  Speaker 2: If he would take a polygraph test.
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  Speaker 3: He said yes, but then right after stopped responding to
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  Speaker 3: police altogether and will not go in for questioning. He
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  Speaker 3: was asked about her phone, her laptop. He just won't
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  Speaker 3: respond to anything and got a lawyer.
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  Speaker 1: I have said so many times. I'm sure if people
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  Speaker 1: have heard me before, they're going, Okay, Terry, we get it.
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  Speaker 1: But I to this day do not understand why the
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  Speaker 1: person who was seen last with the person who's gone missing,
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  Speaker 1: why they can't be compelled to talk. I know they
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  Speaker 1: have the right to not incriminate theirself that hello, you
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be able to say, oh, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: talk to you back.
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  Speaker 3: Something definitely has to change, especially because the more I've
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  Speaker 3: learned over the years and other missing person's cases, I mean, Beyonca,
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  Speaker 3: what happened and Beyonca. Happens to a lot of women
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  Speaker 3: and they're missing because of the same story. We got
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  Speaker 3: into a fight, she walked away and left her life
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  Speaker 3: for another man.
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  Speaker 1: Did they have a history of any domestic violence or
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  Speaker 1: any calls to police or anything.
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  Speaker 3: Not that I'm aware of. I don't think so. There
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  Speaker 3: were things I talk about this in some of the podcasts.
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  Speaker 3: There were things in the beginning that it wasn't a
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  Speaker 3: healthy relationship, it wasn't the best choice. But she did
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  Speaker 3: get pregnant pretty quickly and really again tried to overcome
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  Speaker 3: a situation and make it better than you know, sitting
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  Speaker 3: there trying.
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  Speaker 2: To do nothing about it.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I just when I refer flexed back, I've had eight
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  Speaker 3: years to reflect. I just think there was probably more
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  Speaker 3: going on than I really knew, and it could be
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  Speaker 3: I was going through my own stuff too. There were
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  Speaker 3: just a lot of things he even said in the
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  Speaker 3: months before her disappearance that were just very if if anything,
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  Speaker 3: there was definitely emotional abuse, definitely, okay, like without a
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  Speaker 3: shadow of doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and as somebody who's been married and lived through that,
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  Speaker 1: I and I'm maybe a rare person, but I found
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  Speaker 1: the emotional abuse harder to deal with than the physical abuse.
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 3: I mean people don't know that I would make I
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  Speaker 3: would say that it feels worse.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it is.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: It happened physically abuse, so I yeah, so I know,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: like I just feel like it's worse.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Now. Has there been any significant developments
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: that the police have gotten tips or anything?
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I mean they were pretty straightforward with me in the beginning.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: When I sat down, I think a month had passed
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: they were investigating. I asked to sit down with the
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: homicide unit that had her case.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: So a homicide unit was brought in.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, so homicide is involved.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, they have her case. Sat down and that detective
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: looked me square in my face and said, we believe
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: that her husband has something to do with her disappearance.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: We believe he had help, but unless we find her body,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: there's nothing.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: We can do.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: There was no sugarcoating it. There was no.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I have to say it's becoming more common
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: that nobody cases are prosecuted. Do they just feel they
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: don't have enough evidence even though their guts says he
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: did it? Is it just they need more evidence?
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I feel.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I talked to you about this on the phone. It
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: is hard talking against law enforcement. For me, it has been.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: It's been very trying on my soul these eight years.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I believe it's easier not to deal with a missing
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: person's case. The accountability, there's nothing. There's no laws in
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: place to there's no accountability. I just spoke to a
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: lieutenant two weeks ago and I told her, any of
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: you could tell me that you're investigating her case. But
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know that that's true. I don't know if
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: that's true because you are continuing to tell me. I
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: can't tell you this. I can't tell you that because
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: it's an open case. But it's been eight years. So
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: where's the accountability.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: There's not I mean one positive thing, and I don't
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: know if it's positive, but one unique thing. They're at
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: least answering you. I talked to so many family members.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: They don't get returned phone calls, they get nothing. Oh
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: so they had stopped.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: It, Yeah, I said, lieutenant. I shouldn't have had to
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: contact a lieutenant. Actually, yes, I have been ignored. Emails,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: phone calls went above. A detective went to the sergeant,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: had some conversations with that one still getting they I
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: feel like they've told me what.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I need to hear to leave them alone just for
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Meetings, telling me that they would sit down with me,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: and then they don't. They ghost ghosting me and I
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: gave it. I wish I would have done it sooner.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Maybe God is in control, right so it doesn't say that.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: But I told myself when I got back from her
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: birthday event on the twenty first, that if they did
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: not respond to this long email that I had ce
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: seed so many, that I was going to be forced
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: to go to the captain.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: And that's what I did.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: And funny how I get an email back that very day.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: But you shouldn't have to do that.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have to.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: It was awful.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: And when I talked to the lieutenant, you know, she
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: told me I don't like getting emails like that. And
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: I used the word disgusted, and she said, I use
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: the word discussed. I said, it is disgusting. I said,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: with all due respect, it's disgusting to ignore a family
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: member who was searching for their loved one. And I said, lieutenant,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: would you not be doing the same thing for your
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: family member?
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Would you not expect a response and.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Then she proceeded to tell me, well, well, what would
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: you want to be told if there's no good news, Well,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: there needs to be accountability that you're working on this,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: and if not, let somebody else solve this case for you.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: If you're if you're at a standpoint where you can't
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: do anything.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Else, but for its just somebody else.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been really frustrating, really frustrating.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, I said, I think it was just
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: on Monday, I said, I don't get how if a
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: police officer was to call my house or to leave
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a card on my front door, they would expect a response,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and if I didn't give them a response, I would
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: be in trouble, right, be in trouble. Yeah, But they nothing,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: And I don't understand it. And I know it's not
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: just here in Texas, but it just it drives me insane.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Have they shared any of the file with you or
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: told you anything they found at the house when they
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: searched it?
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: So I feel like I don't know what is true
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: or not true. There's been a few detectives on her case.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I think one kind of told me maybe too much,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: but I mean I haven't shared that with anyone.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's one reason why they vote,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: because they think family members share. Well, I would want
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you to share, but I do want to.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Lieutenant, I told I want to know.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Well, this lieutenant that did that, I said, he was
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: straight honest with me, and this was years into to
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: her disappearance, and he said they screwed up. He was
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: the only has been the only one that has admitted
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: and said we screwed up. There were too many hands
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: on this, not enough focus.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: And yeah, so.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Now that somebody's getting away with right, right, Well, I'm
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: just thinking, like, right, you're wrong. If you get a
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: new detective on this case and you want to fresh
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: set of eyes, that's why you're bringing in a new detective.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Right, You're wrong.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I admit, respond to my emails, respond to
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: my phone calls.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Now I know that. Did you know before she went
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: missing that she was planning on divorcing him, that she
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: had made that decision, And.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Like at the end of February, that's when they stopped talking.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I thought that that was kind of normal for them.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: When they got into a fight, they wouldn't talk for weeks.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I could never do that, but that's how they did
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: it and they were together for ten years, so this
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: is how they did it. I thought, Okay, they're just
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: in an argument. They're going to get it, get it together.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: They never did, and I think it was in March.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I cannot remember when she changed her Facebook status to divorce,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: but you could just tell with everything going on, they're
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: getting a divorce. What's going on behind closed doors, I
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: don't know, but they're going to get a divorce. He
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: did not want that, though he did not.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: He was talking to anyone who would listen.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Quit his job in Odessa in the oil fields so
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: that he could work in San Antonio to be there.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I think he thought if he was there he could
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: work on their marriage. I don't know, but he was
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: really panicked that they were they she wasn't coming back
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: to him, you know.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: He had a problem with that. He didn't want to
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: let that control grow. It sounds like.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: From everything because I noticed towards her disappearance, the comments
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: he was making about her were just disgusting, you know,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: and it was just like, you're you're just saying these
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: things because your your ego is hurt, you know, and
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: you're losing her. But I mean, I don't know I
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: just I knew that they were done. And when she
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: told me, she told me on Sunday that she was
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: going to see a divorce lawyer. She had said she
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: was done, so she.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Had made up her mind. Were they having any financial issues?
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, was he worried about having to pay child support?
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: They weren't married long enough in Texas. I don't think
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: to get spousal support. I think we do that now.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I'm not even sure. I mean, they've are always done.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: He works in the oil field and she's a nurse.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: They've always done pretty well. I think maybe.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: It was just a battle over finances.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Maybe right only because and I say that, because she
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: didn't think she could afford to take care of the kids.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: He had her commenced to that, and I'm like, yes
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: you can, you're a registered nurse. And then him, him threat,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: you know him, He removed He removed all her money
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: the days days before the account and so I don't know.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I think money was in not I don't think they
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: were having financial problems.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I think they were financial control from him. It sounds
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: like he wanted to control her, because you see that
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of times go along with emotional abuse, that
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: financial abuse and sorry to tell him, but she's a
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: registered note. She can absolutely take care of those kids. Sorry, dude,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: she doesn't need you for that.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she came to her, we talked. I
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: think I did. Another friend to her like as you can,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: don't let somebody tell you can't.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: You know you can't.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Now, what would you like to see the police do
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: about her husband and about her case?
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, they could just go knock on his door.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: He lives in the house that she went missing from.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's still with kids.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Well, he moved.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: He moved right after she went missing, took all her stuff,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: moved to Odessa. The kids were removed for six months,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: and then as soon as the CPS case was closed,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: he moved back into the home with a new girlfriend.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Why can't they just go knock on the door and
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: ask questions. I know that legally they can't make him
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: come in. I know that they can't make him take
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: a polygraph test, but has anyone even tried to pick
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: up the phone and ask ask questions?
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Make him uncomfortable telling you they.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Called me missing persons in the beginning. It was so frustrating.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I had to tell them because they're not police officers
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: or just agents. They would call me and say, oh,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: do you know do you have any information on your sister?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute. They were calling you to ask
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: you if you had information on your sister's case.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, missing persons, Yeah, that would just frustrate me because
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: it's like, obviously, if I knew something, I would be
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: calling you.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Why are you frustrated? Now? That is the first one.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I'm very frustrating. And I told the lieutenant that that.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I said, I've told missing persons not to contact me
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: because they're calling me asking for information that y'all are
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: supposed to be looking for. But I just think if
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: you're call if missing person is calling me, why are
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: they calling him? Why are they not going up to
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: his door and asking him? Have you heard from her?
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: He's telling other people that she walked away? How does
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: he know this?
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Was he wasn't?
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: That's a pretty simple question. You're so convinced that she
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: walked away, You're you're convinced the kids. The kids believe
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: it too that she walked away. How can we talk
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: about how.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: You know that?
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Has he shown any emotion? Because I have to tell you,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: even when I was divorced, saying, you know, my kid's dad,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: if he would have come up missing after one of
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: our arguments before we filed, I would have still been
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: heartbroken for my kids, even though I didn't love him.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't want anything to happen doing right, and I
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: wouldn't want my kids to grow up and I would
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: have been sad because of that. Has he shown any
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: of that emotion.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: No, it's I think that's the saddest part to me,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: is that say, say he didn't do anything right, say
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: something else happened. I can't wrap my mind around why
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: he would tell those babies that she walked away from them. Why,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: as a parent, you would want to protect their little hearts?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Why would you Why would you say all these bad
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: things about her to them? Why would you want them
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: to go?
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Why would you do that to a kid? Why when
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: they were young.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: And those are your kids, those are your kids, Why
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: would you do that?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I think we did an event in May, and we
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: had a search and support organization that's out there out
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: of San Antonio, and we've gone out there and put
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: missing flyers in the neighborhood because that's where she was
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: last seen, right at her home, so we plaster those
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: flyers everywhere around there. Well, they were doing that that day,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: and the girlfriend was driving my sister's son around and
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: they were pulling those flyers down.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: That's uh oh, looks like we lost her for just
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: a second. I'm sure she will log back in. I
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: think that the system got just as frustrated about the
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: fact that the new girlfriend was driving around the missing
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: person's child and having them remove the missing person flyers.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I really think the internet just got just as mad
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: and shocked, is I Yeah, I was just saying, I
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: think the internet is just as shocked that the girlfriend's
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: driving around with the child taking down that. I'm going
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: to watch my language. The freaking missing person flyers. How
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: old was he at that time?
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: This was just a share so he's seventeen.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: That is still.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I think that's where I'm just like, Okay, well I
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: knew that was a possibility, but actually knowing and knowing
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: that that is what they believe, I try to protect them.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: In the beginning of this, I didn't want to say
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: too much in the media. I still don't want I
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: don't want to slander her husband. That's not the goal.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: The thing is he was the last one to see her.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Nobody else has seen her. So if you didn't have
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: anything to do with her disappearance, why aren't you helping?
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: And that's the part that gets me is that y'all
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: were still married, you have three children together, even if
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: you were getting divorced. Shouldn't you want to find her
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: because if your kids do you really want your kids
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: growing up not knowing what happened. That's just crazy to me.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: It looks like the internet. Guys, I told you technical
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: difficulties today. I while we're waiting for her to come
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: back on. I agree. You know, you don't want to
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: come out and bad mouth the husband and say that
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: he did anything. But he definitely isn't making himself look
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: very good. I mean, he's not even trying to pretend,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: you know, he's not even trying to pretend that he cares.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: It sounds like he's just moved on.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sad that.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's horrible.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: I think for years too, I really think that I
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: think him, I'm going to say him and the police.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I think thought that eventually.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: This was going to go away, when, if anything, it's
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: intensifying because these children are older and now I know
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: that they believe this about their mommy, and I'm not.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I can't let that happen. Can you imagine thinking about that?
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know I have mother issues, but to
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: think that she walked away from me and left me, and.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: That's what That's what I'm saying. I can't imagine that
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: he would want And why would you tell them? Why
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: not give them hope that I personally would protect my
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: children at all costs and tell them we don't know
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: what happened, but I know she loved you and she
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: would not have voluntarily left.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: You, right right?
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: So now, is there any misconceptions or rumors out there
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: about her case that you want to address and set
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: the records trait. Sure.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: I try to do that in the podcast because it
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: comes up. But a lot of the times people hyper
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: focus on the fact that he used to be our
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: uncle and they immediately think incest. He's not our blood.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: He was not our blood uncle. He also was married
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: to our mother's side of our family that we did
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: not grow up with. Our mother was not in our life.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: It was our dad that was raising us. So at eighteen,
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: when my uncle went to go live back in Odessa
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: to kind of try to re.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Connect with our mother.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: This is how that came about, And it wasn't It
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: happened so fast, and it was not this grooming type situation.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: It wasn't.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: No, it's just the way that it's put out there
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: by some It was it was True Crime Daily or
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Crime Watch Daily, whatever it's called now.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: It was them that put.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: That story out and my mother was on that show
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: and she put that out there, and it took me
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: a couple of years to act because I didn't have
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: a relationship with my mother either at the time, and
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: neither did Bianca. She did try to help find her,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: but she went back to drugs. She could, she just
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: couldn't cope with everything. So she's actually in prison now,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: but she was on drugs when she did that interview,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: and it was just yes, And I just felt like
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Crime Watch Daily just totally exploited the entire situation. When
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: I was looking for my sister, her kids had just
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: gone back to their dad from CPS, and it's like
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: after that, I just couldn't believe that that video still
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: gets shown and so I do try to address it now.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: It's like, it's not the way they put it out.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: There, it's just not that, And unfortunately people do that
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: because they want the clicks, the views, the downloads and stuff.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: But that's that's not the important thing. The important thing
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: is that she's gone. It doesn't matter.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: She's another human being, you know, that's my thing. And
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: the police are telling me, oh, well, there's a lot
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: of missing persons, okay, But would you accept that answer
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: if that was your loved one, would you just say, oh, well,
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of missing people.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: And sadly, and I'm gonna say this and nobody come
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: at me. But I think they say, maybe the family
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: will just go away and they'll just accept it and
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: they'll stop looking.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: But do you really want to know what hurts about that?
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Is I'm her sister.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and you like I've told this to them.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: That our father is not looking for her, He's never
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: even called. You know that our mother is in prison
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: because she's here in the state of Texas.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: How dare you make it that she's not.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Not as important just because I'm her sister looking for her,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: and because I do feel that way, I feel that
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: they just see a sister. She's gonna end up giving
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: up because of the situation and I'm.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Not Le's to say. I don't think you are, and
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I think they may have underestimated you because y'all just
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: did that great birthday event, which I thought was great.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, you do an amazing job of getting her
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: information out there, and I'm sure it takes an emotional
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: toll on you.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: It definitely has been a journey, an ugly one. But God,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: God is good because I can't tell you my heart
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: goes out to those people that are in the same
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: shoes as me, because nobody can understand it unless you're
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: in it.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Nobody can. It's not like a regular loss.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: It's not I can't even know the loss of a crime,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: like where you know someone when they're just out there
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: and you don't know where. That's just a really really
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: dark place to be in. But I just feel like
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: pulled out of that part to where you know, God.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Is a just God. He's not just a loving God.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: He's a just God, and he will Nobody's gonna get
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: away with it, you know, And it's just what I'm
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: here to say. You're not going to get away with it.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: It's not going to happen, you know.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Now, it seems like the commune unity and San Antonio
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: has been really great about supporting you.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Have they been Yeah, I think the news has been
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: really awesome there, the news media people. I don't know
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: why I say, I don't know why. I know because
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: my sister is not just beautiful. There's there's a story
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: there that I believe. People just see her picture and
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: probably know that without knowing they know. But there have
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: been all these amazing advocates come you know, come through,
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: you know, her friends, the community that just say we
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: want answers just as bad as you do for your sister.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: You know that they love her somehow without even knowing
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: her and want to find her.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Well, that means you've done a great job of getting
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: her story out there.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: A lot of help. I've got a lot of help thankfully.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Now. I wanted to ask a couple of questions. So
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: her husband, because they never got divorced, he is remarried.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming no, he just has the Does he have
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: the same girlfriend.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, so legally he wouldn't he wouldn't be able to remarry.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, because he's never declared.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: She's not declared deceased. I did find out that he
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: tried to file to divorce last summer but I would
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: imagine that lawyer would have told him that was dominant.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you can do that. I don't
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: know the law, but I'm just thinking you can't divorce
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: a missing person.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: You can't. I mean, there's the ways. I mean, I
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know the I'm actually in the process right
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: now of uh, trying to get into the legal stuff
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: to help, because I don't think I have another option.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I've I have a lot of questions about that kind
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: of stuff.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too, so that'll be interesting to see. Now.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I want to give you a chance because I know
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I heard about your sister at the podcast festival, and
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: to be honest, I have so many cards and stuff
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: here I don't even remember who told me about it,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: but I know it was one of the organizations or advocates.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: So I wanted to give you a chance to maybe
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: tell us about some of these advocates or organizations that
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: have just done so much for you.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Hailey Gray research is.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: She's probably watching right now. Uh Hailey is? She just
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: she doesn't make she checks on me like as a person,
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: you know, how are you doing? And she just shares
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: for Bianca all the time.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: With you know, at her.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: These podcast things are I don't know these conferences, but
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: I know that she helps other advocates with their podcasts
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: and you know, ethics things like that, which is so
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: important because that has that in hisself in these past
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: two years have been more help than anything, you know,
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: because they're not just saying, hey, well, i'll pray for
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: you or i'll you know, they're actually doing something. I mean,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: she's she's the one that made these bracelets, these.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Oh she is, well, yeah she did that job.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah she did that. You know, she doesn't have to
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: do that, and she did that. Whitney from Navigating Advocate Advocacy.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: She came to Bianca's birthday thing, Jessica from I don't
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: I don't remember thing.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Evaporate for the Missing Nina from Search and Support.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: There's just all these people just hey, are you a
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: Holly from uh Crimaholics. They don't they share like you have,
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: like you have shared, not just you're not just sharing
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: your podcast or you know, no.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I want the other podcast. You need to go listen
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: to all of.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: It, right and you that changes everything, and it speaks
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: to what you said in the beginning about empathy. That's
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: the driving force of stuff like this, her friends Julie
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: and Rosa they love her, you know, and the emotional
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: support and then just Julie coming in and doing all
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: the like she helps make the tiktoks and the Instagram stuff,
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: and we tag team on a lot of that. She's
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: in Odessa and I'm in Houston and so there, and
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: then we all kind of meet up in the middle
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: in San Antonio and right.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: So that's just.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: We're all here for Bianca and those people just coming
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: and willing to help that are not they don't even
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: know Beyonca, you know, and it's just it's really beautiful.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: What can the public do to help assist? I mean,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I know, sharing every post they see things like that.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Is there anything else that they can do we can
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: do to help get the word out there because somebody
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: knows something. I mean, you can't just oh I agree.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I think there's multiple people that know. I do, Yeah,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: I I speak to those people more than anything because
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: they may think that they're being loyal or and they're
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: doing something good by doing that, but they're actually not.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: It almost makes them worse than the person that actually
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: did something, you.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Know, agreed, because they're hurting the kids in town.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: And I really hope I pray for this.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: I pray for conviction on the hearts of those people,
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: because you know something that maybe you don't care for
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: my sister, but think about her children. Just think about them,
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: look at like, think about their little faces, their life.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: How awful this is that they have to grow up
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: like this. That's awful. So I just I say to
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: share and post. I could use help me and Julie
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: get on you know, we'll get if news is shared
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: or like this. We try to respond. Our YouTube TikTok
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: all that we try to respond to people to make
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: them aware that we're present. We're here.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: This is not just.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: You're not just seeing somebody like we're here, we're responding.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Please help us, it's real, it's genuine. You're not speaking
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: to a robot or you're speaking us. I would say,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: I would need we need help, Like we're trying to
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: get more national news involved. We don't know how to
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: do that. So if anyone knows how to do that,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: please help us. So we've been just trying to comment
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: under things to make hopefully maybe bring attention Twitter. I
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: still can't figure out it's not even Twitter.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Anymore, and I'm like, I can't figure out the X
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: on Twitter, Twater, whatever it is.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: It's there, it's there, Ivory post, but I don't know
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: how to get get it going. My sister in law
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: just they if she has a business and she just
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: created another design for shirts. There's no profit or anything
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: from it. We're just they're good advertising.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, where can those be purchased?
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: I just posted the links today. Okay, she created created
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: up a design in the Google forum. But those those
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: kind of things prompt people to ask questions. It's incredible.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: I mean when I was there in San Antonio, we
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: were wearing our shirts. People you know that you can
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: see them looking like you know, and they live there,
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: And for me, it's like you live there. Someone disappeared
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: in your city, in your community, vanished, lasting at her house.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: It's important that it.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Is because we like to think that it's never going
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: to happen to us or to somebody we know. Right,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Like you said, there's a lot of missing people out there,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: and I think there's a higher number of women who've
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: gone missing after an argument with their husband or you
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: know that kind of thing.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's actually sadly.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Because you know I live in Houston, so I'm not
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: even I can't honestly say that I'm more connected to
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: the missing person's cases. Here there's a couple, but over
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: there because we do events over there, there's three women.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Off the top of my head, there is that are
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: missing from San Antonio.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Catty vaugh Patty Vaughan's the one I know about. And
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: then there's another one.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Still's husband was arrested. Oh he was, Yeah, they put
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: him in and trial.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: They just can't find her. They can't find her her body.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: What Pauline, Pauline, She's an older lady. Her daughter's looking
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: for her. She's been missing for thirteen years.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I'm writing this down. I'm gonna have to gel.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Luck Pauline Canto Diaz, I believe. I mean, it's there's
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: another one, Cassandra Gonzalez. She went missing last year and
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: it's about to be a year. And I think he's
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: such a little different. But it's still for me what
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: I'm realizing. And I don't remember if I told you
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: this on the phone. I'm born and raised love the
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: state of Texas like too, I'm through and through. Culturally,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of Mexican American people here. I don't
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: think it's a coincidence that in San Antonio there is
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: all these women are Hispanic women, and I don't I
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: don't think we'd.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Give enough pushback. You're not going to find a lot of.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: People doing what I'm doing right now, pushing that in
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: our culture. And I want to encourage them to speak
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: up too. Don't accept what they're telling you. And because
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: we're used to just being quiet and following right. You're
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: an American, you you you can speak up, especially in
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: the state, especially in the state of Texas.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: You have up forredom you do, you do, And it's sad.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I it's sad to think that. I think law enforcement
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: also looks a little bit different, and that's sad to say,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: but I do think they do. If somebody wants to
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: convince me I'm wrong, I would love to have that
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: conversation with them. But when you look at responses, do
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: somebody that looks like this, or somebody that looks like
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: this look at the you know, look at it. It
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: drives me crazy. Now.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: I spoke a little bit about that with Gabby Patito's mom,
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: mm hmm, and she you know, I think they're trying
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: to get together with a black and missing. I think
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: that's the organization. But they noticed it and they didn't
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: go through that. So it's like, it's not just me
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: saying that because.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: I'm brown, right, No, I think not.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's pretty obvious.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: It's blatant. I mean, and I was born and raised
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: in Texas too. Love it. I do lately say our
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: state's on crack. But that's okay. Hopefully they're going to
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: go to rehab and get some things back together. But
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: it is if you don't look a certain way, I
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: think you get less attention. And I don't understand it.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: I will never understand it now. And this may be
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: a really tough question. And I forgot to mention that
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: I was going to maybe ask, do you believe your
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: sister is still with us? Or do you think he
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: did something to her? I or someone we won't.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: I do not believe that she is here. We have.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Two other sisters and all of us when this first happened,
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: and that week we just knew, you know, we just
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: knew she wasn't here. I can't really explain it.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: I think you have a feeling. I think I'm the
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: person who's say trust her gut and trust how you feel.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't want people to get.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: I don't want them to think that that means that
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: I've lost hope. It's just I don't. I don't when
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: you put things into perspective. If I know, without a
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: shadow of a doubt that she didn't walk away, but
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: she was if she was alive all these years, to
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: think about what awful things could be happening to her
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: if she were alive.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: That's a hard place for your mind to go.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: I don't even want to go there. I don't, you know,
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: And that's not being hopeless. I just don't want to even.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I think self preservation is important as well, because.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: I's gone through she's gone through it, so to think
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: about that, I can't. I can't do that.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that's okay. Now, you had the
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: kids there for a little while, didn't you.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Six months?
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Six months, and we don't have to get into it.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: But you don't have them now. They're back with their dad.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Right, okay, And I haven't gotten to see them.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: He keeps them for most of the family.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I hope they know that when the truth does
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: come out, whatever that truth is, that I'm sure you'll
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: be there to support them and help them get through
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: it when they have to maybe accept some really hard realities.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: I've I've gotten to to talk on the phone with
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: her older one.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Here this year. They're mad at me.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: I mean they're mad because they think that their mom
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: walked away, so they believe they're by making their dad look.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Awful and horrible. And I get that, which is.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Self preservation and what our defense. You know, what the
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: brain does to protect ourselves. I never wanted them to think.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: I never even wanted to share everything that I shared
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: because of them, right, But now it's like I have to.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: I don't have a choice, and it's not the oldest
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: one said something about cloud. I don't want cloud. I
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: would rather not have this situation. I have children too.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: It's not an easy thing to walk through. I have
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: moments where I'm feel unsafe, where I think I'm speaking
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: out too much, somebody's gonna come.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: And hurt me, or they're gonna hurt my children.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: Going to San Antonio I've only been twice. It's not
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: an easy thing to be involved in. So no, I
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: don't want the cloud. I don't want the I don't
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: want this at all. I shared with her that she
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: could encourage him to to.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Come answer questions.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: I've told her, don't go to the news, don't go
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: to anyone, go straight to the police. Yeah, and make
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: them answer some questions.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Did the police ever question the children?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: No? CPS did.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, so somebody did.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: And that's a whole other thing. Like I said, there's
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: just so much to this.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I I hope they realize that
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: when they get even older and they have, you know,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: children of their own, or god forbid, one of their
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: siblings go missing. I do not. I can't imagine. Even
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: the people I dislike the most, I would never wish
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: that on them because after talking to families, and I can't.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I think one day they'll understand. And that in itself
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: is heartbreaking because, like you said, self preservation. I can
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: only think if they let their brain go there, then
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't have a dad in world, you know, And
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: I that makes.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Said that, I mean right, yeah, yeah, And that's what people.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: I don't think they they realize. They're like, why did
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: you talk more in the beginning? If all in my
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: head was like they don't have their mom and then
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: they're not going to have their dad, and I truly
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: believe that's why we haven't had answers. I do believe
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: that God's timing is perfect and that maybe he's protecting them,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: you know that they I remember them being taken that
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: week that she went missing, and how traumatic that had
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: to have been. I mean, their mom is gone, they
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: can't find her, the police are everywhere, there's all this
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: stuff going. Then they're taken away from their home, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and from their dad. They don't think that about their dad.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want to think that about their dad. That's
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  Speaker 3: another hard part about this. You don't want to think
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  Speaker 3: that somebody in your family is capable of doing something
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  Speaker 3: so awful.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, wow. And I know this is a kind of
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  Speaker 1: a little crazy question, but if Fianca was out there
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  Speaker 1: and could hear this, what would you want to say
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  Speaker 1: to her.
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  Speaker 2: That I mishurt a lot and that I love her
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  Speaker 2: and that I'm very proud of her. Sometimes I don't
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  Speaker 2: think I said that enough for her. I'm very proud
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  Speaker 2: of her.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I bet she knew, and I bet she's watching,
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  Speaker 1: even if it's from upstairs, and she knows, and I
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  Speaker 1: bet she's proud of you. Because, like you said, you
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  Speaker 1: are a sister, and I bet the police just don't
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  Speaker 1: know what quite to do with a sister doing as
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  Speaker 1: much as you because that's normally not where that falls, right, right, right.
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  Speaker 1: So I think she was, you know, very lucky, you know,
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  Speaker 1: have you as a sister.
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  Speaker 3: I think that we were both like I'm just I
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  Speaker 3: am very thankful I have my sister to get through
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  Speaker 3: life because it was a crazy one, you know, growing up, and.
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  Speaker 2: You know, she's a part of who I grown up
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  Speaker 2: to be.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, good. Well, like I said, I want to
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  Speaker 1: thank you because I know this isn't easy, and I
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  Speaker 1: want to also encourage you if there is anything you
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  Speaker 1: need or can think of that we can do. We
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: do have a little small team of people who help
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  Speaker 1: us behind the scenes. We are more than willing to
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  Speaker 1: do whatever we can to help get the word out.
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  Speaker 1: I also woun't mind just happen to run into this
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  Speaker 1: husband somewhere someday and just say, hey, tell me something
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  Speaker 1: somebody wants to do that that'd be great. I just
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  Speaker 1: and I want to tell the police come on San Antonio,
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  Speaker 1: show that Texas. They always say, we're built tough, and
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  Speaker 1: we're built right and don't. You're not showing Yeah, that
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: were built very right. Yeah, because I personally think out
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: of all of the states that Texas should be the
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  Speaker 1: one that has the least amount of missing people because
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: our law enforcement should be kicking butt. I wasn't going
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: to ask real quick, did the FBI get involved at all?
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  Speaker 1: Or no?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: So has the Texas Rangers gotten involved?
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  Speaker 3: Finally they're on standby to help, but they are the
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: thing is that people don't realize with FBI or like
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  Speaker 3: in our state, the Texas Rangers, the San Antonio Police
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  Speaker 3: are wherever you are has to request their help.
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  Speaker 1: They can't just come in.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: And the state of Texas actually has a new cold
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: case missing person unit and their attorney, their their a
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  Speaker 3: G office. There's a whole unit up there now. It's
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: only I think maybe three years old. But I've reached
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: out to them even and they have to ask them
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  Speaker 3: for help, which they don't ask for help.
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  Speaker 2: And that's been part of the fight, like, if.
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  Speaker 3: You can't do it, ask for help, get help. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we have the tech that we do, we have the
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: Texas Rangers.
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  Speaker 1: We do and that's the thing that kills me. We
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  Speaker 1: always are I always tell my kids or employees. I'm like, hey,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: if you need help, ask I think more of you
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  Speaker 1: for asking for that help and saying, hey, I tried
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: it myself. I did this, this and this, but I'm
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: just not doing it. And that's something about law enforcement.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: I do not get. Why are they egos. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I would think more highly of you if you asked
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  Speaker 1: for the rain to come in or ask for somebody.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I get, maybe not on day one, I
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: want to try.
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  Speaker 2: We're so I mean even a year, even.
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  Speaker 3: A year like yeah, I say, you're if it's going
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  Speaker 3: on and you're not getting anywhere and you're in.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Circles, like why not? Why not get help?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've never even searched for her. It was Texas
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: Equa searched that. They they gave them whatever they would,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: but they never gave them his phone pings they won't
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: get they won't release those because it's an open case.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: But it's like, well then y'all go look for her.
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  Speaker 2: They've never even looked for her.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know. One day I'm going to
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: find a police officer that wants to come on and
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: us put something over their face so we can protect
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: their identity. I would love for somebody to explain to
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: me why I don't understand why it's got to be
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: that way, because I don't think it has to be.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so either.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: So I'm an ask for everybody that watches this, share this,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: and if you want to tag the San Antonio Police
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: in it, I say tag them because maybe they see
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: it so much, maybe they'll be like, Okay, maybe we
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: need to do something to get these crazy people off
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: our back because they only seem to respond to excessive persuasion.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: I guess yeah, and I think that's what it's going
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: to take. Because season of Season of Justice, oh my gosh,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: Kendall a lot. Season of Justice, Yes, helped get a
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: billboard up in San Antonio for Bianca in May and
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: it was there for a month. And I firmly believe
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: that billboard and just the hype around it finally got
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: SAPD to get crime stoppers involved. I've been asking for
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: years for crime stoppers to get I just got yes,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: and I believe that's what it was, and I I
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: that's why I say, please share, Please continue if you
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: want to talk to go talk with share you know, is.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: There a reward that crime Stoppers or anybody.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Dollars five thousand dollars.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not enough to probably encourage people to do the
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: right thing.
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  Speaker 3: No, I haven't gotten a lot of help with how
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: to do that because I guess if crime Stoppers is
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: doing a reward, you can't really raise funds for I
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: And I can talk offline and I can tell you
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: how that works because we have done that on the
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: chase likey side, and I can kind of tell you
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: okay and give you a little bit of that. It's
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: a little complicated, but like I said, thank you, please
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: reach out. I want to thank you everybody who's watching this.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask y'all share this, go like help
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: us find answers for Bianca Crossco. You guys do a
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: great job of getting stuff on there. You have a
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: list of all of the different podcast articles and things.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: There is some great stuff out there. And like I said,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: it is a big story. And my other thought is
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: maybe the more people who hear the story and listen,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: maybe somebody will be oh, have you thought of this?
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: Because everybody has different experiences, different things, I kind of
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: believe that's what helps answer and maybe solve some of
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: this stuff is somebody goes, oh, I wonder that kind
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: of stuff, and I hope that helps. And I truly
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: hope you get the answers that you deserve. And I
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: want to say you your strength and resilience, And just
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: hearing about Bianca makes me think because my grandmother used
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: to always tell me, you can't how did she say it?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: You can't decide what life you're dealt, but you you
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: can decide if you make the best out of it
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: or if you want to sit there and say pitiful meat.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: And it sounds like your sister was a lot the
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: same way. Just right, life's rough. What do I need
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: to do to make the best of what I got?
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  Speaker 3: And I would say, put your big girl panties on.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: That's hey. I tell my granddaughter that all the time.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Just put on your big girl panties.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, yep. Well.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I want to thank you, and I want to thank
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: everybody for joining me, and I look forward to seeing
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: you all again on Monday for our next episode. And
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: remember that you can like this and subscribe and never
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: miss anything. So I will see you on Monday. I
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: hope you all have a great weekend and I will
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: talk to you all soon thank you,