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Doug Pederson Leadership on Both Sides of the Ball | Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, May 23 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, May once fifth. This is Jaguars Happy
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Speaker 1: Hour and now fame sports talk host an emergency place
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Speaker 1: kickers good.
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, good.
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Speaker 1: Shay Shady, he missed it. Well, Come here. It's Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. I'm JP Shadwick. We've got a busy hour ahead.
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Speaker 1: Organized team activities continue for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Week one
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Speaker 1: in the books, the offensive mindset. We'll hear from Press Taylor,
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. We'll hear from Christian Kirk as well on
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Speaker 1: what the wide receivers think they could do in the
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Speaker 1: offense this year, the defense looking to improve, and we'll
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Speaker 1: hear from Tyson Campbell, Jaguars cornerback who sat down with
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Speaker 1: John Oser earlier this week. We'll go around the National
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Speaker 1: Football League as well and get logs thoughts on the
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Speaker 1: rule changes that have been approved earlier this week. We're
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Speaker 1: Twitter at JP Shadwick at Logs five six. Jeff Logaman
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Speaker 1: with us. Now, Good afternoon, afternoon, JP. It's a beautiful
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Speaker 1: day in Paradise. Yeah, the rain yesterday was pretty nasty.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we've got like a full blown northeaster going
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Speaker 1: on in the springtime. It's just it's not very typical
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Speaker 1: that you have that, and u or if you do,
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Speaker 1: it's earlier in the in the spring, right like Marwell.
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Speaker 1: In the fall is typically when you get a lot
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Speaker 1: of northeasters. And so we've had this northeast wind with
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Speaker 1: strong winds and it's brought a bunch of rain and
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Speaker 1: it's made the temperatures nice and cool when it hasn't
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Speaker 1: been raining. So I mean, from that standpoint, it's been good.
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Speaker 1: But you know, the one thing with the with the
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Speaker 1: players and the team is that they've got an amazing facility.
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Speaker 1: And then even if it does a little bit, the
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Speaker 1: field here inside the stadium, which is where they're still
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Speaker 1: practicing at while the final touches are put on the
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Speaker 1: practice facility there the Mill Electric practice fields, So once
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Speaker 1: that's all done, they'll move over there. But this field,
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Speaker 1: it drains great. If you want to give us the
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Speaker 1: seventy fore cast, it'd be great. The local on the
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Speaker 1: eighths is about six minutes away. Oh that's Okay, I'm good.
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Speaker 1: I'm good. I figured you would handle that, and then
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Speaker 1: you might handle the marine weather as well. Hey, I
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Speaker 1: can tell you which way the wind's blowing. That's about
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Speaker 1: all I got for you. That's what then. Hey, look,
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Speaker 1: you know windy conditions earlier this week? So did Was
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Speaker 1: there a little tough stretch of kicking earlier in the
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Speaker 1: week that led to this trade that happened today? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: no trade. They signed tenth year kicker Briston McManus and
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Speaker 1: waved Riley Patterson. Of course, McManus was released a couple
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Speaker 1: of days ago by the Broncos after nine seasons. He's
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Speaker 1: eighty one percent for his career. Forty made field goals
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Speaker 1: of fifty plus yards, the third most in the NFL
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Speaker 1: in his time span in the league since twenty fourteen.
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Speaker 1: He made every postseason kick in four games in the playoffs,
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Speaker 1: three and three in Super three of three in Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl fifty on field goals. He made the only extra
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Speaker 1: point he had a kick in that game. So Patterson,
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Speaker 1: who was signed before last season, is now gone. He
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Speaker 1: was eighty six percent in the regular season, missed five
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Speaker 1: field goals, two of three from fifty plus and of
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Speaker 1: course he had the game winner against the Chargers in
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Speaker 1: the wild card game. He did a really good job
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Speaker 1: last year at a position that really wasn't settled until
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Speaker 1: he took over. So I mean credit to him, and
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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's going to have an opportunity to catch
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Speaker 1: on somewhere else. And a lot of people say, why
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Speaker 1: make the change with the guy that kicked eighty six
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Speaker 1: percent last year? McManus was an eighty one percent career
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Speaker 1: average guy, And I think that's a valid question. Number
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Speaker 1: One Patterson, from the way I understand, it wasn't super
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Speaker 1: consistent in practice and a lot of times when he
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Speaker 1: got to the game, which he was great, but there
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Speaker 1: was a little concern about the consistency day in and
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Speaker 1: day out. And then also a little bit I have
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Speaker 1: concerns about the strength of the leg with Patterson. Could
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Speaker 1: he kick a sixty one yard field goal like McManus
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Speaker 1: has done at the Chargers not in Denver, which you
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Speaker 1: first impression, you might think that, Okay, that came in Denver,
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Speaker 1: and this is a football team that's got a belief
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Speaker 1: that they can compete for Lombardi. And when you can
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Speaker 1: compete for Lombardi, you want to have confidence in a
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Speaker 1: kicker when it comes down to that game winning kick
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Speaker 1: at the end of the game. Only half of Patterson's
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Speaker 1: kickoffs last year were touchbacks forty four of eighty eight,
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Speaker 1: which was a real quick just a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a problem now because now you're starting to ask Logan
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Speaker 1: Cook to do something that's right, which you'd like to
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Speaker 1: have a punter punt and a kicker kick. And when
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Speaker 1: you ask what I believe is a Pro Bowl caliber
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Speaker 1: punter and Logan Cook to have him start to do
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Speaker 1: kickoff duties. I don't know if you noticed this, but
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Speaker 1: when they had asked him to do that, the punting
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Speaker 1: wasn't as good in those games for whatever reason. So
5:12
Speaker 1: let a punter concentrate on punting and have your kicker
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Speaker 1: do the kicking. It's just a different style altogether. So
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Speaker 1: it's a totally different legking out of your rhythm, totally
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Speaker 1: different leg motion altogether. And there's a much better percentage
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Speaker 1: of touchbacks from McManus in his career. But we'll see
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Speaker 1: what happens, But there you go. McManus is in as
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars kicker. James of Court is on the roster
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Speaker 1: still and was on the roster all last year as
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Speaker 1: a backup, was on the practice squad and he had
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Speaker 1: a good day today, been around. He did the kicking
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Speaker 1: today and he did very well. I mean, he's got
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Speaker 1: a super strong leg and that's why they like McCourt
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Speaker 1: from day one, and he's continuing to work on his consistency.
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Speaker 1: But there's never been a question about his leg strength.
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Speaker 1: Talking about kickers, man, I know, I know this is
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Speaker 1: right up your alley. Well, look, nobody wants to talk
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Speaker 1: about kickers, and until all of a sudden, there's two
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Speaker 1: seconds left on the clock and you're down by two
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Speaker 1: with the playoffs on the line or the opportunity to
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Speaker 1: advance to the next week in the playoffs. Okay, then
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Speaker 1: who wants to start talking about ticking?
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Speaker 3: Kick?
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Speaker 1: Everybody does? I mean, so essentially they're having that conversation
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Speaker 1: now instead of waiting for an issue to crop up.
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Speaker 1: And and I think it's kind of I don't want
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Speaker 1: to say getting ahead of a problem, because I don't
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Speaker 1: think Patterson necessarily was a problem, but it's you've got
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Speaker 1: to have confidence in where you're at. And if you
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Speaker 1: don't have confidence and you always have concern in the
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Speaker 1: back of your mind, I think in some cases, you
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Speaker 1: can even coach differently. I mean, right, yeah, if you
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Speaker 1: have a stronger leg that you're confident in, maybe you
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Speaker 1: call something a little differently and a key they're down
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Speaker 1: or whatever. Absolutely, absolutely, so I'm on board with this move.
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Speaker 1: This is a guy that's veteran, he's proven been there,
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Speaker 1: done that, and he's done it at the highest level,
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Speaker 1: which is the super Bowl. And this is an example
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Speaker 1: of trying to improve the roster really every position, right
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Speaker 1: you can. You always kind of look around and see
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Speaker 1: what's out there, and if there's something out there you
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Speaker 1: feel could be an upgrade, then maybe you pulled the trigger.
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Speaker 1: Well in the way I understand it, he was excited
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Speaker 1: about coming here. The salary cap implication is not that bad.
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Speaker 1: He had a big number, which is one of the
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Speaker 1: reasons why that he was released in Denver, and he
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Speaker 1: wanted to be here, supposedly surpassed up a couple other
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Speaker 1: opportunities that could have paid more elsewhere. So that's a
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Speaker 1: really good thing that goes to show you when you
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Speaker 1: start getting to that point to where you're attracting people
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Speaker 1: and if dollar amounts are equal and you're getting the
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Speaker 1: advantage because people want to come here, then that means
7:48
Speaker 1: you're starting to build things the right way, that you're
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Speaker 1: starting to establish a culture and you're establishing a reputation
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Speaker 1: with those around the National Football League. Just like Kansas City.
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Speaker 1: Kansas City can attract some people because of the opportunity
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Speaker 1: to win and what Andy Reid has built in Kansas City. Well,
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson is doing the same exact thing with Trent
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Speaker 1: Balky right here in Jacksonville. Jaguars Happy Hour on ten
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Speaker 1: ten XLAM, Jaguars dot Com, JP Shadwick, Jeff Logerman, glad
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Speaker 1: you're with us on Jaguars Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Phase
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Speaker 1: three underway. The first week of organized team activities now
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Speaker 1: in the book that your third one was today. Three
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Speaker 1: practices next week, four the week after that, and then
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Speaker 1: the mandatory mini camp, So three more weeks remaining of
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Speaker 1: the offseason program. Head coach Doug Peterson knows what the
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Speaker 1: team pace should feel like this time of year and
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Speaker 1: what it should look like on the practice field during OTAs.
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Speaker 2: From a passing standpoint, I think, you know, Trevor and
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Speaker 2: the receivers, tight ends, running backs, just being on the
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Speaker 2: same pay the guys that were here, you know, being
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Speaker 2: on the same page there shouldn't be any what I
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Speaker 2: would say balls on the ground, right, they should be
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Speaker 2: they should be completed at a high percentage. And it's
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Speaker 2: just a matter of you know, not getting anybody hurt
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Speaker 2: this time of year. You just don't want these setbacks
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Speaker 2: that way, you know, this close to camp.
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Speaker 1: Pretty simple, keep it smooth, keep it off the ground,
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Speaker 1: and stay healthy. Well, I mean that's easier said than
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Speaker 1: done sometimes when you have a competitive environment in a
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Speaker 1: phase three practice where there's helmets and then there's offense
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Speaker 1: versus defense competition. So he always as a coach, want
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Speaker 1: to make sure that the guys are smart, but you
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Speaker 1: also want to make sure that you're out there not
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Speaker 1: just going through the motions. I mean, the main objective
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Speaker 1: is not to just okay, let's just not get hurt.
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Speaker 1: The main objective is let's get better as a football team.
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Speaker 1: And so you make sure that you're just doing it
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Speaker 1: the right way and as a coach, and that that's
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Speaker 1: really up to the coaching staff, and it's not just
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson. It's Doug Peterson and all of his staff
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Speaker 1: to make sure that they emphasize, hey, look, let's compete,
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Speaker 1: let's get better, but let's be smart, you know, who
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Speaker 1: kind of leads the charge on that though. As a quarterback,
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Speaker 1: he sets the tone for a lot of this offseason
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Speaker 1: work and how things are done, and certainly he's comfortable
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Speaker 1: so far in year two in this system, at least
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Speaker 1: through a few ota practices. It feels like offensive coordinator
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Speaker 1: Press Taylor earlier this week, he's very receptive.
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Speaker 4: And that's the one thing about Trevor. His maturity level
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Speaker 4: is off the charts. So you're able to sit down
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Speaker 4: and say, here's what we see, here's what we need
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Speaker 4: to improve on. He generally has the same notes for
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Speaker 4: the most part, here's or you know, we'll ask what
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Speaker 4: are your thoughts, and he kind of says the same
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Speaker 4: thing we're tracking. So that's very encouraging for us as
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Speaker 4: a coaching staff to kind of already see the same things,
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Speaker 4: want to improve on the same things, whether that's fundamentals
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Speaker 4: with him or schematics in terms of our whole offense.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Trevor sets the tone and you better keep
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Speaker 1: up with him because he's doling out the football and
10:54
Speaker 1: you want to be at his good graces right well,
10:56
Speaker 1: And I think the most important thing that Press said
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Speaker 1: right there is that Trevor were mature beyond his years,
11:02
Speaker 1: and we know that. We got to see firsthand his
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Speaker 1: rookie season, which was a very challenging one for him
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Speaker 1: and for this football team, and he was just, you know,
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Speaker 1: outstanding at it and outstanding at dealing with the adversity
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Speaker 1: that comes with being a rookie, but then also the
11:18
Speaker 1: things that were challenging because of the environment that was
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Speaker 1: here with Irban Meyer at that time. So I give
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Speaker 1: Trevor all the credit in the world and watching him
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Speaker 1: out there, Look, he's getting better, and he's challenging guys,
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Speaker 1: he's challenging himself, and that's part of what quarterbacks have
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Speaker 1: to do. You know, Trevor's growth process. It's not like
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Okay, his whole game has arrived.
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Speaker 1: He's got a lot of work to do and he's
11:46
Speaker 1: well on his way, don't get me wrong. But he's
11:49
Speaker 1: still got a lot of things that he can get
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Speaker 1: better at and get immensely better at. And that's I
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Speaker 1: think the mark of somebody that has an opportunity at
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Speaker 1: greatness when they recognize that there's a lot of hard
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Speaker 1: work left to be done. And I think that's the
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Speaker 1: most impressive thing about a player like Trevor Lawrence. Give
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Speaker 1: us a couple of those things. What do you think
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Speaker 1: he needs to improve upon? Accuracy, consistency. The one game
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Speaker 1: I thought that he was just absolutely lights out this
12:17
Speaker 1: past year was the Tennessee game. I mean, he's just
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Speaker 1: out played out of his mind. His ability to get
12:24
Speaker 1: rid of the ball in a quick fashion, the ability
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Speaker 1: to maneuver into the pocket to find the open guy.
12:30
Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was almost to the point
12:33
Speaker 1: where remember the movie Caddyshack. No no, no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: no no no. I mean it was just one of
12:39
Speaker 1: those things for Trevor. It was just like it was.
12:42
Speaker 1: It was just he was just playing the game and
12:45
Speaker 1: it wasn't he wasn't thinking about what he had to do.
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Speaker 1: He was just doing it. And uh. And when you
12:53
Speaker 1: have moments like that, then you know that you want
12:56
Speaker 1: to end up trying to find more moments like that,
12:59
Speaker 1: especially for a young player. But that's that's what you're
13:01
Speaker 1: looking for when things start to happen, because it's just happening.
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Speaker 1: It's just you're reacting. You're not not so much thinking
13:08
Speaker 1: about things, and it speeds everything up when you're just
13:12
Speaker 1: reacting instead of thinking. Through it in a quick instant
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Speaker 1: and then reacting physically. A flute with no holes is
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Speaker 1: Pretty cool opportunity that I had this week, and then
13:56
Speaker 1: last week they've been bringing some perspective season ticket buyers
13:59
Speaker 1: in for a lunch and got to meet a bunch
14:03
Speaker 1: of different people last week and this week, and the
14:05
Speaker 1: level of excitement in my mind is high. And try
14:09
Speaker 1: to convey some of that to these people because some
14:11
Speaker 1: of the magical moments that we had last year and
14:14
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to having even more magical moments. But
14:16
Speaker 1: a great opportunity for me to meet a lot of
14:18
Speaker 1: people than are future season ticket holders. I'm sure they
14:21
Speaker 1: were excited to see you. No, I was excited to
14:24
Speaker 1: see them JP. Really it's a two way street, absolutely,
14:27
Speaker 1: and now it's fun. It was fun. I love talking
14:29
Speaker 1: to people from different walks of life, especially people have
14:31
Speaker 1: one thing in common, and that's Jaguars football. What wide
14:34
Speaker 1: receiver Christian Kirk says are the expectations for production in
14:39
Speaker 1: season two? That's next don Jaguars Happy Hour, home of
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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Speaker 3: My goal is to just become more of a vocal
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Speaker 3: leader in our room, kind of take the reins, you know,
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Speaker 3: along with guys Calvin and Zay, just being the older
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Speaker 3: guys in our room, just really bringing up the younger
15:03
Speaker 3: guys with us because we go as a group. So
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Speaker 3: I think that's number one. And then just you know,
15:06
Speaker 3: looking back on things that you know I kind of
15:08
Speaker 3: left out there and you know maybe you could, you know,
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Speaker 3: approve on technique wise, and you know, just kind of
15:14
Speaker 3: be a be a very harsh critic of myself in
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Speaker 3: my game and come out here and try to perfect
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Speaker 3: that every day.
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Speaker 1: As Christian Kirk had a chance to catch up with
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Speaker 1: him Tuesday after OTA practice number two. The full conversation
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Speaker 1: now on Jaguars dot com and welcome back is Jaguars
15:28
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. We're on tintin xl AM, Jaguars dot com
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Speaker 1: and at Jaguars on Twitter. Also on Jaguars Facebook and YouTube.
15:38
Speaker 1: Glad you're with us today, JP, Shadrick, Jeff Logman. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk had a career year last year obviously, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: in season number five in the NFL over eleven hundred
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Speaker 1: yards receiving a career best there and eight touchdowns as well,
15:55
Speaker 1: career high and catches and targets and everything to go
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Speaker 1: with that. Well, it's an offense, said, has most of
16:00
Speaker 1: the pieces back, plus an addition or two. So you know,
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Speaker 1: is this you know, what does this feel like for
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Speaker 1: the receivers this year now with the addition of Ridley
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Speaker 1: In terms of numbers, can you can you is it
16:15
Speaker 1: too early to tell? What can you expect from the
16:18
Speaker 1: production of a guy like Christian Kirk in this season ahead? Well,
16:23
Speaker 1: for me, if I'd be shocked if his numbers get better,
16:27
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that just because he's not better.
16:31
Speaker 1: I would say that just because also if you add
16:33
Speaker 1: a guy of the level of Calvin Ridley, there's got
16:36
Speaker 1: to be some opportunities that are going to go his way.
16:39
Speaker 1: There's all. They play the game with one ball, as
16:41
Speaker 1: we all know, and you still want to have a
16:44
Speaker 1: balanced attack with tank, Biggs, b and etn. So you've
16:49
Speaker 1: got to be able to make sure that the offense
16:53
Speaker 1: is the most important thing. And there's a tight end
16:55
Speaker 1: or two in there as well. I gets some Touchdows
16:57
Speaker 1: it's a tight end or two, which is right because
16:59
Speaker 1: you have Evan ingram In and also a second round
17:01
Speaker 1: pick and strange. But the most important thing is is
17:06
Speaker 1: that how these players react to having one ball. This
17:11
Speaker 1: past year it was fantastic. It was about the team
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Speaker 1: and it was about hey, let's just be the best
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Speaker 1: we can be. And I don't see any reason why
17:21
Speaker 1: that this would be different this year. I really don't.
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Speaker 1: And the fullback maybe even take some catches away from
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Speaker 1: the we'll see about that. A little too early to
17:31
Speaker 1: tell them that was the linebacker from Houston. What's his
17:36
Speaker 1: parish parish? Yeah, you don't sound very firing up about it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's ot as we'll see. Let's get real
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Speaker 1: with camp A little down about this whole full thing.
17:47
Speaker 1: You don't like fullbacks. Well, he's not playing as a
17:49
Speaker 1: fullback right now, that's the thing. He's more. He's a
17:51
Speaker 1: tight end, kind of full back age, whatever you want
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Speaker 1: to call him. But I'm excited to see this offense.
17:58
Speaker 1: But you know, the one thing, You've got to make
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Speaker 1: sure that you have players that are very unselfish in
18:04
Speaker 1: this offense. And that's the kind of offense that Doug
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Speaker 1: Peterson wants to coach. Doug Peterson is a big believer
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Speaker 1: and that you look, you get the ball to your playmakers,
18:13
Speaker 1: but you get the ball to the open playmakers. And
18:17
Speaker 1: that's why he does such a really good job with
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Speaker 1: with scheme and everything else. So I think he's one
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Speaker 1: of the best coaches in the National Football League on
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Speaker 1: the offensive side, without a question. And when you have
18:28
Speaker 1: more weapons now all of a sudden, you give a
18:30
Speaker 1: quarterback a lot more options and you can be a
18:33
Speaker 1: lot more creative. But at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if Doug Peterson is going to have
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Speaker 1: an offense where he says, hey, we got to get
18:39
Speaker 1: the ball to Calvin Ridley twelve shots a game. It
18:44
Speaker 1: just depends on the game plan and depends on the
18:47
Speaker 1: opponent who's open, where they're lying, and how they play them.
18:51
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. And now you got Kirk and
18:54
Speaker 1: say Jones, who obviously got paid coming in last year
18:58
Speaker 1: in their free agent contracts. It's a contract, ye'ar coming
19:02
Speaker 1: up for Calvin Ridley. A lot of things to prove
19:05
Speaker 1: for Calvin. Sure you'll be motivated certainly to. I loved
19:08
Speaker 1: watching Christian Kirk and Jay Jones last year from the
19:11
Speaker 1: standpoint of you can kind of tell with a wide
19:15
Speaker 1: receiver where their mindset is as far as are they
19:19
Speaker 1: a diva or are they a team guy? By how
19:23
Speaker 1: they go about their business when the ball's not coming
19:25
Speaker 1: their way. If it's a pass and a ball doesn't
19:28
Speaker 1: go their way, how do they react, what's the body
19:31
Speaker 1: language look like? If it's a run, how do they do?
19:35
Speaker 1: And blocking? And we saw and I pointed out to
19:37
Speaker 1: you numerous times last year on the film of how
19:41
Speaker 1: well that Christian Kirk and Zay Jones were blocking last year.
19:44
Speaker 1: And their body language is never suspect when the ball
19:48
Speaker 1: goes to somebody else. That's how I tell about guys
19:52
Speaker 1: like that. You got smart guys out there too, Guys
19:54
Speaker 1: that know the entire offensive system and at a moment's notice,
19:59
Speaker 1: they don't have to check sides of the field. They're
20:01
Speaker 1: running the other guy's route. And a few times that
20:04
Speaker 1: happened this year for scores, so that you got to
20:06
Speaker 1: have that part of the equation as well. And that's
20:09
Speaker 1: a big piece of why those guys are here, because
20:11
Speaker 1: you got to keep up with Press Taylor and Doug
20:13
Speaker 1: Peterson in that scheme. Well, and by the way, got
20:16
Speaker 1: a new wide receivers coach that's this year, Chad. What
20:20
Speaker 1: I believe it is, Oh well, excuse me. He was
20:23
Speaker 1: a player here for ten days. Yeah, you know, for
20:26
Speaker 1: a minute, Yeah, but not even a cup of coffee.
20:29
Speaker 1: But I think it's great that you have and I'm
20:31
Speaker 1: a big fan and obviously there's a little history with
20:33
Speaker 1: dog Doug Peterson, but I love the fact when you
20:37
Speaker 1: have guys that have played the game that coach their position,
20:41
Speaker 1: just like when Keenan McCardell was here. We all know Keenan.
20:44
Speaker 1: He was a great Jaguar and an excellent coach. And
20:47
Speaker 1: when you have coaches that played the position, there's a
20:50
Speaker 1: lot of things that they can pass on to the
20:53
Speaker 1: players of today from personal experience, and sometimes when you
20:59
Speaker 1: have a lesson in the there's a story involved with it.
21:01
Speaker 1: Sometimes that lesson gets hurt a little bit better, not
21:05
Speaker 1: like a back in my day story. No, no, no no,
21:08
Speaker 1: But but you can say, hey, look, hey, look, we're
21:10
Speaker 1: trying to do this footwork on this play because it's
21:15
Speaker 1: gonna accomplish this. And let me give you an example.
21:17
Speaker 1: Back in such and such a year, we're playing so
21:20
Speaker 1: and so. And it doesn't have to necessarily be you,
21:23
Speaker 1: but when you're drawn upon experiences that you've lived through,
21:27
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot easier to be able to
21:30
Speaker 1: share a message and have that message be heard. Jaguars
21:33
Speaker 1: Happy Hour on tenen XLAM, Jaguars dot Com, JP Shadwick,
21:37
Speaker 1: Jeff Logman, glad you're with us on Jack's Twitter, Facebook
21:39
Speaker 1: and YouTube. Let's shift our discussion to the offensive line.
21:42
Speaker 3: Now.
21:43
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson was not at the first OTA practice of
21:46
Speaker 1: the week. It's my understanding he returned. He's back. Okay,
21:51
Speaker 1: So day one at least was Walker Little and Anton Harrison.
21:55
Speaker 1: But now with Cam back in the fold and around
21:58
Speaker 1: getting work, they're all getting work. That's a good thing.
22:01
Speaker 1: And you got to remember too, Camps coming back from
22:03
Speaker 1: an injury. Yep, so you're and also Ben BArch they
22:08
Speaker 1: got you got two offensive linemen that are coming back
22:10
Speaker 1: from being on the injury reserve at the end of
22:12
Speaker 1: last year. I remember Sheriff was banged up and played
22:15
Speaker 1: through it. Most of the Sheriff had seemed to be
22:17
Speaker 1: some kind of ad core injury that he was on
22:20
Speaker 1: the injury report for for for various weeks. But you
22:24
Speaker 1: can see that both BArch and Cam are working their
22:27
Speaker 1: way back and you know, I think everybody's felt they
22:30
Speaker 1: felt pretty good about where they're at, and you know
22:33
Speaker 1: there's not a game next week, and so you want
22:35
Speaker 1: to make sure that you're smart and you work them
22:37
Speaker 1: back to the point where when you hit the ground
22:41
Speaker 1: in week one that that's what it's all about. It's
22:43
Speaker 1: not about training camp necessarily. It's just about working the
22:46
Speaker 1: player back at the appropriate level of exertion so that
22:51
Speaker 1: you don't end up having the risk of any kind
22:54
Speaker 1: of setback. This is where it gets tough. In a
22:57
Speaker 1: non contact period though, when you have eleven on eleven work,
23:01
Speaker 1: what is that line? How much can you do on
23:03
Speaker 1: an offensive line? Well, it's limited, and that's I think
23:09
Speaker 1: I think that's the hardest position offensive and defensive lines
23:13
Speaker 1: when you're in this phase of the of the season's
23:17
Speaker 1: preparation to accomplish some things, and sometimes you got to
23:20
Speaker 1: be careful because you can actually form some bad habits
23:25
Speaker 1: in this period of practice because you don't have pads on,
23:28
Speaker 1: so you've you've got to be careful with that, and
23:32
Speaker 1: you got to make sure that your pad levels where
23:34
Speaker 1: it is because a lot of times when you're in
23:35
Speaker 1: no pads, you kind of get in bad habits because
23:37
Speaker 1: you don't want to have that contact. So your body
23:40
Speaker 1: positioning sometimes will be a little bit more laxed because
23:43
Speaker 1: you're not making sure you're trying to not have that contact.
23:46
Speaker 1: So there's a there's a very fine line, or should
23:50
Speaker 1: I say there's two very fine lines. You're trying to
23:52
Speaker 1: find that comfort range in between those two lines, you know,
23:55
Speaker 1: not being too hard and overly crazy and then also
23:59
Speaker 1: not being just hey, look it's a walk through, but
24:02
Speaker 1: there's a way to accomplish that. But offensive lineman I
24:05
Speaker 1: think accomplish the most when they're an individual period and
24:08
Speaker 1: then also the first couple steps of the drill, and
24:10
Speaker 1: then once contact seems imminent, then you gotta be smart
24:13
Speaker 1: with defensive linemen. It's hand placement, it's a body positioning,
24:18
Speaker 1: it's body lean, but then also making sure that when
24:21
Speaker 1: you get to the point of possibly making contact, you
24:24
Speaker 1: gotta be smart. But again, those positions where you're trying
24:27
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25:03
Speaker 1: win mindset next on Jaguars Happy Hours. We've got to
25:18
Speaker 1: work to win. You know, winning is a process or
25:20
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the liver thing that got matter. One
25:22
Speaker 1: of those liver things is team chemistry, just.
25:25
Speaker 5: Having a budge of guys behind it's one culture and
25:27
Speaker 5: the coaching staff is with you know, unless you get
25:30
Speaker 5: everyone in the same boy, that allows your success because
25:33
Speaker 5: everybody is not onally, you know, playing for one another,
25:36
Speaker 5: but playing for a purpose. So I would say those
25:39
Speaker 5: two teams because you know, winning in this league is
25:42
Speaker 5: pretty difficult.
25:44
Speaker 1: It's Tyson Campbell worked to win. He visited with John Ozer,
25:47
Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com senior writer on the ozone podcast. I
25:50
Speaker 1: believe it comes out tomorrow on the Official Jaguars podcast network,
25:54
Speaker 1: so check it out. Always good to hear from Tyson Campbell.
25:57
Speaker 1: More on that coming up. But some breaking news is
26:00
Speaker 1: now Tom Pelisero of NFL Media tweeting that the Jaguars
26:04
Speaker 1: aren't releasing kicker Riley Patterson after all, they traded him
26:08
Speaker 1: to the Lions. No word on the compensation, so possibly
26:13
Speaker 1: a draft pick coming back. Yes, the Lions are trading
26:15
Speaker 1: and draft pick to a comeback, So there you go.
26:20
Speaker 1: I guess the official transaction wire is what four o'clock,
26:24
Speaker 1: So anything that's you can kind of hold it back
26:27
Speaker 1: until for and then you get some offers and don't
26:30
Speaker 1: put it as an official wave. You can make the trade,
26:32
Speaker 1: and that's apparently what the Jags have done. Well, then
26:35
Speaker 1: the Jaguars waited for Patterson they were kind of following
26:39
Speaker 1: that kicking battle last year in Detroit that Patterson was
26:41
Speaker 1: a part of. I believe that's yes, he was waived
26:44
Speaker 1: in late August, right at the end in twenty two
26:48
Speaker 1: and so you basically traded a guy back to the
26:53
Speaker 1: team that you acquired him from for nothing, and then
26:55
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a draft pick back. I mean, that's
26:57
Speaker 1: a great job by Trent Balk there to get a
27:00
Speaker 1: draft pick, late round draft choice, no word official draft
27:03
Speaker 1: pick is Any's a good thing. Yeah for that, I mean,
27:07
Speaker 1: heck take that any day of the week. So that's
27:11
Speaker 1: a little bit of the business side of it that
27:12
Speaker 1: is officially done now. So uh, good luck to Riley
27:16
Speaker 1: and Detroit. We'll see when training camps practicing. Yeah, what's
27:20
Speaker 1: what's the story on that? So, I mean Doug Peterson
27:23
Speaker 1: said this a few weeks ago. I don't think it's
27:24
Speaker 1: officially been put out by the Lions, but Doug Peterson's
27:27
Speaker 1: on the record saying they're practicing against the Lions training
27:30
Speaker 1: camp leading up to that game two. Then that's that's
27:34
Speaker 1: in Detroit. Yes, that's cool. I think you get you
27:39
Speaker 1: really gain a lot out of practicing with somebody else.
27:43
Speaker 1: And especially if you've got a good relationship with the
27:46
Speaker 1: coaching staffs that to where they're kind of on the
27:51
Speaker 1: same mindset as far as what they're looking to accomplish.
27:54
Speaker 1: And if the if the coaches are friends and you've
27:56
Speaker 1: got you know, two coaching staffs that I think are
27:59
Speaker 1: are very well respected first and foremost and number two
28:03
Speaker 1: have been around the league for a long time. Former
28:05
Speaker 1: players a lot of them on both staffs, So it
28:08
Speaker 1: should be a spirited competitive atmosphere. And you'll the reason
28:12
Speaker 1: I say that you accomplish a lot and something of
28:14
Speaker 1: this nature because look at day in and day out,
28:17
Speaker 1: you get tired of going against the same guy. I mean,
28:20
Speaker 1: it's just it just gets old. You're you're facing the
28:23
Speaker 1: same body type, you're facing the same tendencies. And as
28:27
Speaker 1: a player, whether you're playing corner or wide receiver or
28:32
Speaker 1: linebacker or tight end, you want to see different body types.
28:35
Speaker 1: You want to see different talents and different skill sets.
28:39
Speaker 1: And the only way that you get better is that
28:41
Speaker 1: if you can see those different skill sets, et cetera.
28:44
Speaker 1: And uh and as much of a of a of
28:47
Speaker 1: a prepared environment as you can get. And this is
28:50
Speaker 1: this is perfect because after a while GP. I know,
28:52
Speaker 1: like when I hate to use that term, but when
28:55
Speaker 1: when I was playing, going against Baseli all the time
28:59
Speaker 1: was got boring. I got beat all the time. It
29:03
Speaker 1: was getting old. It's like, man, can I even play
29:04
Speaker 1: the game anymore? But it's nice to go against different
29:08
Speaker 1: faces because you get to try different moves and you
29:10
Speaker 1: get to try different techniques against a player that has
29:13
Speaker 1: a different skill set. And this day and age, you know,
29:16
Speaker 1: starting players rarely get many reps, if any at all,
29:19
Speaker 1: of the preseason. Those are your reps or those practice
29:22
Speaker 1: reps against other teams. Yeah, And the way it typically
29:26
Speaker 1: works in a preseason setting when you have practices against
29:30
Speaker 1: the team, you'll have the starters have a lot of
29:34
Speaker 1: reps then and the practice is leading up to the game.
29:38
Speaker 1: And then once you get to the game, because it's
29:40
Speaker 1: a less controlled environment, then you'll have the starters not
29:45
Speaker 1: play as much in the game, having them get the
29:47
Speaker 1: majority of the reps and the controlled environment practices, and
29:51
Speaker 1: then you're looking at evaluating a lot of that second
29:55
Speaker 1: and third and fourth team players in the preseason game,
29:59
Speaker 1: which perfect because that's the environment you want to see
30:01
Speaker 1: them in and is when the lights are bright and
30:04
Speaker 1: it's a competitive situation, Jaguar's happy hour. Let's get back
30:08
Speaker 1: to defense. Now. We heard from Tyson Campbell there the
30:11
Speaker 1: work to win mentality. So let's let's just take a
30:15
Speaker 1: look at the top part of this secondary Campbell, Darius Williams,
30:19
Speaker 1: Trey Herndon. Those are your corners, race On Jenkins, Andre Cisco,
30:23
Speaker 1: and then Andrew wingerd mixes in there some as well.
30:26
Speaker 1: The same same group, and you got some draft picks.
30:29
Speaker 1: You know that we'll you know, we kind of wait
30:30
Speaker 1: and see about. But those are your the main six guys.
30:34
Speaker 1: And I think that this is a this is a
30:37
Speaker 1: unit that I feel really good about the safeties. I
30:40
Speaker 1: mean really good about the safety group. Cisco has been
30:42
Speaker 1: in the weight room. By the way, have you seen
30:44
Speaker 1: his arms. Cisco's always been in great shape, yes, and
30:47
Speaker 1: but he told me he made it an emphasis this offseason.
30:50
Speaker 1: It shows and he's had I think in what he
30:54
Speaker 1: does really well. He's got great ball skills and and
30:56
Speaker 1: the more experience he gets, the more opportunities he's going
30:59
Speaker 1: to get it for his hands to be on the ball,
31:02
Speaker 1: which is he's going to be able to make more
31:03
Speaker 1: of an impact that way, because that's how he was
31:05
Speaker 1: so impactful when he was in college. And Rayshawn Jenkins
31:08
Speaker 1: is a bundle of energy, made some game changing plays
31:12
Speaker 1: there towards the end of the season, and love the
31:15
Speaker 1: way he just kind of love the way he plays
31:18
Speaker 1: the game. I mean, the guy I just never forget
31:20
Speaker 1: the game regular season game in Kansas City and the
31:22
Speaker 1: energy that he brought to that game was awesome. So
31:26
Speaker 1: the safety group feel really wingered. Good special teams player
31:29
Speaker 1: but also can play a role if you go to
31:30
Speaker 1: three safety looks. Daniel Thomas is an excellent special teams
31:36
Speaker 1: player that's high energy, does a great job as a gunner.
31:39
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this a really good position group.
31:42
Speaker 1: When you get to the corner room, that's I think
31:45
Speaker 1: an area that you want to see some players start
31:47
Speaker 1: to pop out and show you some development. Whether it
31:50
Speaker 1: be the guys that were drafted in the later rounds
31:52
Speaker 1: last year, whether it be the guys that are drafted
31:55
Speaker 1: this year. You hope that they can all take a
31:57
Speaker 1: step up, you know, because you get better two different ways.
32:00
Speaker 1: Either get better by getting better players from elsewhere, or
32:04
Speaker 1: that you develop the players that you have. And the
32:08
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball as a whole, that development
32:11
Speaker 1: is going to be impaired of this year from with them. Yeah,
32:14
Speaker 1: they didn't really add at least near the obviously the
32:16
Speaker 1: first three rounds row offensive players and free agency. You know,
32:21
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of guys that at least right now,
32:24
Speaker 1: there's no depth chart. But starting groops back well for
32:29
Speaker 1: the most part, jp to be a great defense in
32:33
Speaker 1: this league. And this is what a passing league now, yes,
32:37
Speaker 1: it is, which means you need to be able to
32:41
Speaker 1: rush and cover. Okay, So rush and cover those are
32:44
Speaker 1: the two ways in which you can affect a quarterback.
32:47
Speaker 1: And did this team get better in the rush category?
32:52
Speaker 2: No?
32:52
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I mean we don't know yet. Well,
32:55
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If you looked at it from a
32:57
Speaker 1: standpoint that the only way you're going to get better
32:59
Speaker 1: through free agency, say no, okay, did they get better
33:03
Speaker 1: from the draft standpoint? We'll see, okay, But there's also
33:07
Speaker 1: the ability to get better again from developing the talent
33:10
Speaker 1: that you already have on the roster. So are some
33:12
Speaker 1: of these guys going to get better? We'll see. They've
33:15
Speaker 1: got four first round picks in the front seven since
33:19
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, Josh Allen, Caleb and Ches on Trayvon Walker,
33:23
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd. At some point they've done a developing improved
33:27
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker, Devin Lloyd. You need to see those guys
33:30
Speaker 1: second here take a step up in year two. And
33:33
Speaker 1: then also you need the coaches to be able to
33:35
Speaker 1: take a step up in the utilization of their skill set.
33:39
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is that you know
33:41
Speaker 1: when you when you draft the player, you have an
33:44
Speaker 1: idea of what that player can do. And then when
33:46
Speaker 1: you bring them in and then you actually see it
33:49
Speaker 1: and you see it under duress and weak in and
33:51
Speaker 1: week out, then you really get an understanding of what
33:55
Speaker 1: that player can and cannot do. So then once you
33:59
Speaker 1: see it, then you take that information. You take that
34:02
Speaker 1: information on what he was able to do well, what
34:04
Speaker 1: he wasn't able to do well, and then you make
34:07
Speaker 1: the best plan for those players, and then that makes
34:12
Speaker 1: them be able to do the best things that they do.
34:14
Speaker 1: And so Cravon Walker, will he have his hand in
34:17
Speaker 1: the ground more? I hope so will Devin Lloyd be
34:19
Speaker 1: able to be a little bit more aggressive and do
34:23
Speaker 1: some things besides just try to because at times last
34:27
Speaker 1: year it looked like he was lost and he was
34:29
Speaker 1: at some bus. Can he clean it up? I think
34:32
Speaker 1: he can, cause I like Devin Lloyd. I think he's
34:34
Speaker 1: a great leader in college, and I think that that
34:36
Speaker 1: leadership will allow him to get back and be a
34:40
Speaker 1: steady force. He's an amazing athlete. He made a play. Gosh,
34:45
Speaker 1: I want to say it was Tuesday. I don't know
34:48
Speaker 1: if you were out there, and it was just I
34:50
Speaker 1: mean just athleticism is just oozing out of them making
34:54
Speaker 1: this play. And so I want to see him make
34:57
Speaker 1: those kind of plays that we saw last year early
34:59
Speaker 1: in the season, and and then you know, see continues
35:02
Speaker 1: to see him develop chat Muma, see him to continue
35:05
Speaker 1: to develop. And if you get some of that, then
35:08
Speaker 1: I think you got a chance. But you got to
35:10
Speaker 1: get the development from the guys that you have on
35:12
Speaker 1: that defensive side of the ball. And you know, some
35:14
Speaker 1: some guys deeper down the perceived depth chart this time
35:17
Speaker 1: of year. A guy we haven't seen yet. He's been
35:19
Speaker 1: banged up for two years, Jordan Smith. I mean, he's
35:21
Speaker 1: got the body to do it. Six seven, two fifty.
35:24
Speaker 1: Can he stay healthy? Can he can? He's coming back
35:27
Speaker 1: flashing something. A couple of these can flash something here
35:30
Speaker 1: and uh, the off season for him. You know, it's
35:33
Speaker 1: a big off season for him, and will he be
35:34
Speaker 1: able to do that? You know, time will tell, and
35:37
Speaker 1: you're not going to know about him until you get
35:41
Speaker 1: to putting the pads on and get in training camp
35:43
Speaker 1: and you start getting him pushing against big body. It'd
35:46
Speaker 1: be a nice bonus if somebody like that can step
35:48
Speaker 1: in and all of a sudden make an impact. So well,
35:50
Speaker 1: and then look you got, uh, you got a couple
35:52
Speaker 1: of draft picks and Johnson safety Slash Nickel and then
35:56
Speaker 1: Abdullah the rush guy from Louisville that you know, can
36:00
Speaker 1: they make an impact? You know, whether it be on
36:01
Speaker 1: special teams or as a situational player on defense. You know,
36:05
Speaker 1: we'll see. But uh, you know, always excited to watch
36:08
Speaker 1: some of these young guys once they get into that
36:10
Speaker 1: environment to where you start to see little glimpses of
36:13
Speaker 1: why they drafted, why they drafted them, where they did.
36:17
Speaker 1: Three more weeks of the off season program locks, Yeah,
36:19
Speaker 1: there's not not a whole lot left. And well then
36:21
Speaker 1: you got you got the mini camp that this is
36:23
Speaker 1: phase three, So you have three phases in in the
36:25
Speaker 1: off season training activities, and then then you have the
36:29
Speaker 1: mini camp and then after that it's it's bye bye. Okay,
36:32
Speaker 1: say bye bye to everybody. For not everybody leaves. The
36:36
Speaker 1: rookies stick around, I think another week or see exactly,
36:38
Speaker 1: and then some guys will stick around to continue to
36:40
Speaker 1: work out. But it's just not as structured of an
36:43
Speaker 1: environment as it is when the phases in the many camp.
36:46
Speaker 1: I mean, you can do it. You're on your own basically. Yeah. So,
36:51
Speaker 1: and at that point you want to continue to train
36:53
Speaker 1: the body, to continue to build, not to where you
36:57
Speaker 1: want to peak when you show up in July, but
37:00
Speaker 1: you want to peak or start to peak when you're
37:03
Speaker 1: starting to get midway into the season. So it's a
37:05
Speaker 1: continual building process. And the players there's even though they're off,
37:11
Speaker 1: they're really not off. Were you ever really off? Well
37:16
Speaker 1: maybe right after the season. Yeah, maybe right after the
37:18
Speaker 1: season for a week or so, But a lot of
37:19
Speaker 1: times when you're at that point, you're you're just so
37:22
Speaker 1: physically war out, mentally wore out that it's really it's
37:26
Speaker 1: more of a rejuvenation period where you just need it
37:31
Speaker 1: just to kind of get the energy level back physically
37:34
Speaker 1: and mentally. And then also a lot of times guys
37:36
Speaker 1: are getting things or rehabbed or fixed surgically or whatever.
37:40
Speaker 1: You know who never takes a day off Jeff Logoman,
37:43
Speaker 1: You don't never takes a day off. Logoman, No, I
37:46
Speaker 1: took days off, JP. I didn't take many off. I mean,
37:49
Speaker 1: now maybe I mean you've developed into you never take
37:52
Speaker 1: a day off in the end. When I was when
37:54
Speaker 1: I was playing at the end of the season, I
37:56
Speaker 1: would take about a week off. And then if there
38:00
Speaker 1: wasn't a surgery, then of course, with the surgery, then
38:02
Speaker 1: you were taking time off because you had to. But
38:05
Speaker 1: if there was no surgical procedure, then you were trying
38:08
Speaker 1: to start to lightly work out just to keep your
38:11
Speaker 1: flexibility and then rehabbing some of the body parts that
38:15
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38:18
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Speaker 3: I think all of us.
38:58
Speaker 1: Should have i expectations of the role we play in
39:02
Speaker 1: this organization, regardless of what you do as a team.
39:05
Speaker 3: Last year, we knew we were good and we had
39:06
Speaker 3: a good group, but the expectations I'm sure we're pretty
39:09
Speaker 3: low for us.
39:10
Speaker 2: People didn't really give us a chance last year. We
39:12
Speaker 2: snuck up lots of people, Like we got to play
39:14
Speaker 2: even better now that people know who we are.
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Speaker 1: That's where you want to be. It's like you want
39:18
Speaker 1: to have expectations that means you're doing something right. We
39:21
Speaker 1: did that last year. The expat stations should be go
39:23
Speaker 1: to the soup bowl. I mean period, you better look
39:25
Speaker 1: out for us because we're hungry.
39:27
Speaker 3: Like the expectation level is high around here because we
39:30
Speaker 3: know what that feeling is.
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Speaker 3: First.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was actually pulling into the parking lot today
40:11
Speaker 1: this morning, and as I pull in, there is a
40:15
Speaker 1: suv that parks right alongside me, and out of that
40:20
Speaker 1: suv steps this kind of muscled up dude, and I'm going,
40:26
Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's Mojo. Oh, that's Maurice Jones drew
40:31
Speaker 1: about that, and he had his two boys with him
40:34
Speaker 1: and was coming in to visit could catch practice. And
40:38
Speaker 1: he played college football with Phil Rauscher, who he just
40:41
Speaker 1: saw in the promo for the Hunt. How about that?
40:44
Speaker 1: And then also he went to high school with one
40:47
Speaker 1: of the guys that's on the coaching staff or the staff,
40:51
Speaker 1: And the first thing he said to me was like, man,
40:55
Speaker 1: when's that new facility opening up? When coming across that
40:58
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42:02
Speaker 1: around the National Football League. Well, the league owners voted
42:07
Speaker 1: to allow a one year trial of kickoff fair catches.
42:11
Speaker 1: It's the college rule. A fair catch would bring the
42:14
Speaker 1: ball to the twenty five yard line. They cited players
42:17
Speaker 1: safety is the reason the league is expecting a rate
42:20
Speaker 1: of kickoff returns to drop seven percent with the new rule.
42:24
Speaker 1: Are you four or against? I mean, I'm okay with it.
42:27
Speaker 1: I just I still want to see too much change
42:31
Speaker 1: to the game. I mean, kickoff and kickoff returns still
42:34
Speaker 1: is an exciting aspect of the game. And it's still like,
42:39
Speaker 1: for example, is Jamal Agnew going to be fair catching
42:42
Speaker 1: the ball that he's out catching it out the ten
42:44
Speaker 1: yard line? I mean, I think I said this on
42:46
Speaker 1: social media earlier this week. If I have Jamal Agnew
42:50
Speaker 1: on my team, I'd give him the green light because
42:53
Speaker 1: if you have an offense that can move the ball,
42:56
Speaker 1: I'll take the five less yards to give him three
42:58
Speaker 1: extra chances to go to the There's been some concern
43:02
Speaker 1: that if they have this rule change, which now it's changed,
43:08
Speaker 1: that exactly, the teams would be more apt to do
43:12
Speaker 1: what I call the mortar kicks, the power kicks, the
43:14
Speaker 1: squib kicks to try to get the team down inside
43:18
Speaker 1: the twenty five which those type of kicks would make
43:22
Speaker 1: the game a little bit more physical. Could you, in fact,
43:27
Speaker 1: have the opposite effect and making it more risky on
43:31
Speaker 1: a special team's play because those things may happen. Don't
43:34
Speaker 1: know the answer to that, but it's certainly something to watch.
43:37
Speaker 1: But like I said, I'm okay with the rule. Let's
43:39
Speaker 1: see what it does. NCAA implemented that rule in twenty eighteen,
43:43
Speaker 1: by the way, and yes, it did reduce some of
43:46
Speaker 1: the returns and some of the injuries as well. League
43:49
Speaker 1: owners also voted this week to allow flexing of Thursday
43:52
Speaker 1: night football games. The league can flex in and out
43:55
Speaker 1: between weeks thirteen and seventeen this season. The flexing must
43:59
Speaker 1: be done twenty eight days before the game. Yeah, not
44:02
Speaker 1: a fan. And no team can be flexed from Sunday
44:05
Speaker 1: to Thursday night more than once per season, and no
44:08
Speaker 1: team will play more than two Thursday Night games per season. Now,
44:11
Speaker 1: listen to the schedule of games in those weeks and
44:14
Speaker 1: tell me how many of these are gonna get flexed out? Okay,
44:17
Speaker 1: all right, Week thirteen, Seahawks at Cowboys. That's stayed. I'm
44:22
Speaker 1: not necessarily no. I mean, Cowboys are a big draw, Yes,
44:25
Speaker 1: that's why they're staying. But if the Seahawks, you know,
44:28
Speaker 1: are terrible which I don't know SA Cowbys they're gonna
44:31
Speaker 1: be on Thursday night football. Week fourteen Patriots at Steelers.
44:35
Speaker 1: That's not change, that's change. That's staying right there. Week
44:38
Speaker 1: fifteen Chargers at Raiders staying Yeah. Big market, yeah yeah La.
44:46
Speaker 1: Week sixteen Saints at Rams could be changed, maybe, but
44:51
Speaker 1: be a change. You need to know they stink a
44:53
Speaker 1: month before they stink. That's the strick with here. Here's
44:57
Speaker 1: the thing. The Rams might stink a month four they
45:01
Speaker 1: get to the point of this, and then Week seventeen
45:03
Speaker 1: Jets at Brown's. I think that'll probably stay. Yeah, I
45:06
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I mean Baron Rodgers are playing that that'll
45:08
Speaker 1: be a draw. But I just don't like the whole
45:10
Speaker 1: concept of that. It could change, you know, I know
45:13
Speaker 1: we're talking about the chances of it changing are not great, right,
45:16
Speaker 1: but they got to really stink early. But my point
45:19
Speaker 1: of that is is that, look, if if the schedule
45:21
Speaker 1: comes out and then all of a sudden we all meet,
45:24
Speaker 1: You and Joe are fans and Reeber, you know, the
45:26
Speaker 1: four of us were like, hey man, let's go check
45:28
Speaker 1: this game out on Thursday night and such as such
45:30
Speaker 1: a city. You know, we book Airfair we get hotel rooms,
45:34
Speaker 1: you know, we get time off of work, arrange for babysitters.
45:39
Speaker 1: I mean, we go through all of that process, and
45:42
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, a month out, we're told
45:45
Speaker 1: that that's not going to happen. I mean, now, the
45:48
Speaker 1: one the one game we really thought right here could change,
45:52
Speaker 1: the Saints at Rams. That's Christmas Week. That's the Thursday
45:55
Speaker 1: before Christmas as well. So you start changing Christmas Week
45:59
Speaker 1: games and traveling, that gets we Look, I'm with the
46:04
Speaker 1: owner of the New York Giants, which said that this
46:07
Speaker 1: is what is not good for our fans and it's
46:09
Speaker 1: not fair to the fan base. And I'm not a
46:12
Speaker 1: big fan of this, but I understand it. TV is
46:17
Speaker 1: the big money and even though you want to take
46:20
Speaker 1: into consideration the you know, fifty sixty seventy eighty thousand
46:23
Speaker 1: fans that are going to be in attendance, the reality
46:26
Speaker 1: is is that it's about the millions of eyeballs that
46:29
Speaker 1: are watching on TV. And as Mike Florio said on
46:32
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk, I made a good point earlier this week,
46:35
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily that reason, but it's for the future
46:39
Speaker 1: of streaming as well. They've got to boost the performance
46:42
Speaker 1: of these streaming properties because the next negotiations about seven
46:46
Speaker 1: years down the line. If they start building a base
46:49
Speaker 1: of streaming where it's performing well for then all the
46:52
Speaker 1: big money comes in in about seven years. Oh JP.
46:54
Speaker 1: Usually when you follow the money, you finally find the answer.
46:57
Speaker 1: That's very true. Colts Jim Irsay said, league owners, No,
47:02
Speaker 1: this is your guy. When you start with that, I
47:04
Speaker 1: just go, oh, no's your guy. What now? Well, he
47:06
Speaker 1: says that they're is set to extend NFL Commissioner Roger
47:09
Speaker 1: Goodell's contract through twenty twenty seven. He said, it's basically done.
47:13
Speaker 1: Just got to dot the i's and cross the t's.
47:15
Speaker 1: It's not finalized, but it's right there, he said, basically,
47:20
Speaker 1: you know. Possibly also, the next leadership arrangement following Goodell
47:24
Speaker 1: could look different with a CEO of business on one
47:26
Speaker 1: side a football leader on the other. That's a little
47:29
Speaker 1: ways down the road. Roger Goodell is sixty four years
47:32
Speaker 1: of age, oh and Rogers a young sixty four. I
47:35
Speaker 1: have a high level of respect for Roger Goodell and
47:39
Speaker 1: have had numerous one on one conversations with him, and
47:44
Speaker 1: he's incredibly smart. He's been incredibly good for the business
47:48
Speaker 1: of football. I think he's been good for the fans
47:51
Speaker 1: of football because he's made football more readily available on
47:56
Speaker 1: more platforms and on more days than has ever been
47:58
Speaker 1: available before. And he's been incredibly great for the ownerships
48:03
Speaker 1: because the value the franchises are at record levels, the
48:07
Speaker 1: value of the income streams or at record levels. So yeah,
48:11
Speaker 1: by all means he's deserved an extension that he will get.
48:15
Speaker 1: The question that I have what next, I mean, is
48:18
Speaker 1: there are they grooming somebody? And I know you talked
48:20
Speaker 1: about possibly having multiple people do that job, but at
48:24
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I'm a big believer that
48:26
Speaker 1: you need to have a commissioner. There needs to be
48:28
Speaker 1: one person, one voice that speaks for the league. It's
48:33
Speaker 1: always been that way, always been that way, and it
48:35
Speaker 1: should always be that way. Then you don't never get
48:37
Speaker 1: conflicting messages. You know, there's you know, if you've got
48:39
Speaker 1: a problem and you go to one person, right, I mean,
48:42
Speaker 1: if you got it or need an answer, you The
48:44
Speaker 1: other idea of that, though, is that with the money
48:48
Speaker 1: and the deals that are such big, highly negotiated things,
48:53
Speaker 1: a CEO type person who has a business background would
48:56
Speaker 1: be better suited for those than somebody who came up
48:59
Speaker 1: through the football operations side. Well, the reality is there,
49:02
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell is so talented that you may not be
49:06
Speaker 1: able to replace him with one person. That's from a
49:09
Speaker 1: league standpoint. So if you need to get multiple people
49:13
Speaker 1: to fill the skill set that he provided, then then
49:16
Speaker 1: look JPI, yeah, then absolutely that's what you gotta do.
49:19
Speaker 1: But you need to have one person in front of
49:21
Speaker 1: the camera. You got to have somebody's got to be
49:23
Speaker 1: the boss, right, Well, here's the reality. There's thirty two bosses. True, Okay,
49:30
Speaker 1: Roger's the perceived boss, but there's thirty two bosses that
49:35
Speaker 1: are the bosses. But you'll have to have leadership and
49:40
Speaker 1: the ability to to get thirty two opinions together, and
49:46
Speaker 1: that's what Roger Goodell does. Such a great job with
49:48
Speaker 1: Brent Reaver on the video side, Joe Fortuneo on the
49:51
Speaker 1: audio side. Our thanks to Jeff Flagman. Good to see
49:54
Speaker 1: you again, Good to talk to you next time. Got
49:56
Speaker 1: it Retire crew. I'm JP Shadwick. Thank you for listening
50:00
Speaker 1: and for watching. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars
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