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- 0:00In this lessons episode, discover how non-profit discipline and corporate rigor scale mission-driven
- 0:05organizations. Learn why playing to your strengths unlocks fundraising success,
- 0:09how replicable systems, and clear decision boundaries and power teams,
- 0:12and why focusing on high-impact leadership tasks drives sustainable growth.
- 0:16And but you know, this is the thing that I've noticed about non-profits. I actually think that you're
- 0:32you are not the normal nonprofit or or it's nonprofit or I don't think you're the normal
- 0:38nonprofit founder or nonprofit executive because I obviously look at what you went on to build.
- 0:43But for some reason non-profits don't usually operate that efficiently and they don't usually
- 0:49they they try for change but they're the people that are attracted to them and work for them.
- 0:54They're not the best operators in the business and I think that's a huge missed opportunity and I'm
- 0:59curious why you were able to to build this so successfully and obviously just have a mind for
- 1:05it and a brain for it but like what were the things that that you did in this in this particular
- 1:10company that you see a lot of people lack in the nonprofit space?
- 1:13Um yeah and so a few things like I love the saying play a game that you can win right like every
- 1:20but every one of us so got you have certain skill sets and so do why and we have things that
- 1:24we're not good at and whatever. I was really good at figuring out what am I really good at and
- 1:30how does that serve the mission of this organization and then you ask the question well who's going to
- 1:35care about these guys? Who cares if they're homeless or not? It's a really difficult issue
- 1:41to get people to get behind right? There's a lot easier nonprofits and causes babies kids kids with
- 1:47cancer animals you know why would you want to help a bunch of 1450 year old men who a lot of people
- 1:55think screwed up their own life right like they're living in homeless shelters get a job get your
- 1:59life together and so the way we raised money was I'm like I have to find the runners I need to
- 2:05find people who understand what this sport has done for themselves and knowing how much they respect
- 2:11themselves when they're out there at six in the morning running and you define the executives who
- 2:16are runners because they have the money and so I found in roads we had this big article in runners
- 2:21where all that's selling my favorite articles ever written about that on my feet and Larry Solomon
- 2:26who was the CEO of Accenture read that article he lived in Philly shot me you know it's saying this
- 2:31is really cool rooting for you and I'm like please say we can get coffee you know and Larry was my
- 2:37meal ticket to all these executives and I'm like introduce me to the runners you're not running
- 2:43the runners and then it just snowballed from there so I got I built events I created running
- 2:48events and I created breakfasts and I would get you out running with our members which I'm like if
- 2:54I can just get you to meet these guys Darren James Joe I mean so many of them you're gonna fall in
- 2:59love with them it is the ultimate underdog story and there's nobody like Americans love underdog
- 3:06stories we love rooting for the guy that we think doesn't have a chance and so I started to realize
- 3:11all of these things in the story and figure out a way to capitalize on all them to raise money
- 3:16for an organization. It's so simple but so smart I think a lot of like nonprofits if if you want to
- 3:21give back and you're in that space and these are good examples to learn from because I do think
- 3:25that sometimes people have a hard time scaling those types of organizations and attracting the
- 3:29right talent and finding ways to raise money so I mean you just nailed it um what were some of the
- 3:34what were some of the things that you actually took and you brought into solid core from a non-profit
- 3:39environment. Yeah so the thing about scaling is you look at the ecosystem that works and then you
- 3:45have to say how do I replicate the ecosystem so give you an example with the solid core studio and
- 3:51the back of my feet running team so when when the chapters were forming with back on my feet when
- 3:56we had one we had one group running right and then it's like okay how do we go to two the logistics
- 4:01start to enter and it's like well let's have everybody meet together and it's like that's not
- 4:04gonna work for very long because how do we get more homeless shelters to be a part of the program when
- 4:09they're spread across the city and now we've got to pick people up at four like it's never gonna work
- 4:14we actually need to replicate the shelter so we had teams so we would have call it six teams
- 4:21and filly let's say you wanted to volunteer Scott you would get placed on a team and you would go
- 4:25to that homeless shelter in the morning and then there'd be five other teams that would go to other
- 4:30homeless shelters volunteers and we would all be running at the same time not together right so
- 4:35like okay cool that can continue to replicate and then you would take that model into another city
- 4:40and say okay we we need a local executive director and we need local staff and local funding
- 4:46you're building systems all the time systems systems processes so for a solid core studio same thing
- 4:51what do you need to make a solid core studio work you need a leader of the studio you need coaches
- 4:55you need consistency and so like great place to ecosystem awesome what about the next one the next
- 5:01one it was easy to do that when in DC when that was like everybody was there and then it was time
- 5:06to go to another city well how are you gonna keep the brand consistent so it was very evident that
- 5:10the training for the coaches had to stay corporate like we would send our people you know from corporate
- 5:18down there get bought into the brand understand the ethos everything and that director of training
- 5:24I spent a ton of time with her name was Joe Gomez and like we had to be on the same page about
- 5:29this culture about how we do things what's rewarded why we say people's names in class and so
- 5:36again it's this replicate replication of what makes this special and over just like over and over
- 5:42again so everything that you learn to do in the nonprofit world that was like directly applicable
- 5:48like building these systems processes keeping like understanding what has to be corporate versus
- 5:54decisions that can be made on the ground I love it well let me give you another quick example
- 5:59of that because it will help people it's got like for me I also if you're a founder right every six
- 6:04months you have to be looking at how you're spending your time and if it's the same as it was six
- 6:08months ago you're in trouble from a scaling perspective and so at when I first started talking I was
- 6:13coaching all the time right because I had one studio that made sense well when I had five right a
- 6:18coaching a class was costing me call it back then 60 70 bucks per coach if I'm gonna be coaching
- 6:2320 classes a week I am telling my team that my value to this company is worth 60 bucks an hour
- 6:29that can't be the job of a CEO so I started to figure out what's the best way for me to make
- 6:35the most financial impact for the business based on my skill sets and that was negotiation with
- 6:40the landlords right how do I get the best deal on this 10 year lease that I'm gonna sign how do I
- 6:45get ten in improvement dollars and how do I get rent debatement because those were two things
- 6:50that were gonna affect my cash flow a lot so I would meet in person with every landlord I would
- 6:55make you like me I would get you to root for me I would explain why I need this rent debatement and
- 7:00ask what's important to you for this deal and if I couldn't do the deal I would say listen those
- 7:05economics don't work for me here's why but I would build relationships with anybody where the
- 7:11financial impact to the company was massive that's the best use of my time and then it would just
- 7:16continue to elevate so what was the what was the so yes a thousand percent in hindsight looking
- 7:22back as 2020 that makes perfect sense now when you when you what was the thing that happened to you
- 7:27in in your life that made you realize that you have to step out of like the day to day what was the
- 7:33story that that forced you or the thing that was breaking or the shit hitting the fan moment or
- 7:37the I can't scale anymore I'm working a hundred hours a week I think it was at back on my feet
- 7:41when I was continuing to run with all the groups and so running you know and like those run
- 7:46sequence at five thirty other morning and like I'm trying to be at all the social events and do
- 7:50everything else and at some point I'm like I just can't do this do this all so I have to figure
- 7:55out who what can I replicate and then go back to solid core the coaches I can replicate right if
- 8:02I'm the only one that can coach a solid core class that's a problem I can't scale that I didn't
- 8:07think that was true right I knew we could coach coaches and coach trainers right but like what
- 8:11is the thing that Ann Malone can do that that nobody else can do and it is I'm very convincing and
- 8:18I'm a great negotiator so I'm going to spend my time doing those things there really was not like a
- 8:23a shit a shit hits the fan moment but there was moments when I was micromanaging right when I was
- 8:29like trying to be involved in everything and then you get feedback from your staff on like how
- 8:34much of a pain in the ass you are and it comes across that you don't trust them when really you
- 8:40care so much and you want to be involved in everything but if you want to you can't have both you
- 8:45can't want to be involved in everything and want to scale something really big so you have to do
- 8:50your best to train people to talk about culture talk about decision making and another great tool I
- 8:57learned from a back on my feet board member was this thing called yellow or sorry red yellow and
- 9:04green and it's how they trained their staff at Accenture so they would create a things like if
- 9:09you were a manager at a solid core studio Scott we would say here's your red yellow and green the
- 9:14things in the red you you don't have authority to make decisions on right like you can't change
- 9:18the pricing for the studio you can't do this and this and this here are the things that are in
- 9:22the green that not just you have agency to do but like we need you to feel comfortable doing that
- 9:28oh right you need to manage the schedule you need to drive the revenue here's your budget here's
- 9:33your goals you need to be able to like manage this and not come to us at the end of the month and say like
- 9:38well we didn't meet our numbers like that's not gonna fly so I found that it actually makes the
- 9:43relationship between the manager and the one that they're managing a lot better when expectations
- 9:48are clear you understand the sandbox you're playing and you understand the agency that you have
- 9:53to make decisions and you understand why you can't make decisions not just because I said so but I
- 9:59explain them to you like why we can't have different pricing at this studio versus studio four
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