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Hour Two | Would You Rather Wednesday, Dr. Etheredge on CFB Injuries & Vandy Flashback · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 4: The New Orleans Saints take on the Chicago Bears.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah they did.
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  Speaker 4: Coming up it's going to be in soldier field.
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  Speaker 2: And twenty twenty four rookie QB.
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  Speaker 3: Action Spencer Raler does have more passing yards than Caleb
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  Speaker 3: Williams in case anybody's keeping score at home, more completions
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  Speaker 3: as well, and less interceptions and more attempts. So just
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  Speaker 3: putting that out there, it's going to be a nice
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  Speaker 3: little battle. Dennis Allen, defensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears,
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  Speaker 3: obviously knows this roster pretty well just being the head
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  Speaker 3: coach of the Saints over the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 3: A great opportunity for the Saints, a team and the
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  Speaker 3: Bears that have some momentum after they went to Washington
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  Speaker 3: and found a way to win that game in some
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  Speaker 3: bad weather.
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  Speaker 4: So a lot of storylines coming into this one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the Chicago we've been talking about them
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  Speaker 2: for a couple of years. Of course, they have reach
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  Speaker 2: in Eberflus as their head coach. When Kayleb Williams gets drafted,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I know that Taylor over here, he's
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  Speaker 2: got a real pet peeve about people firing a head
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  Speaker 2: coach the year after they draft a first rounder, a
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  Speaker 2: top pick. But I think we've kind of always known
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  Speaker 2: the talent surrounding. They were one of the few teams
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  Speaker 2: that had a top pick at quarterback that kind of
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  Speaker 2: had the pieces in place for that quarterback to be successful.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of times you see a guy go one
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  Speaker 2: of these top picks and they're just in a bad situation.
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  Speaker 2: The team's not ready for a quarterback, so that they
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  Speaker 2: have all the pieces now, Caleb Williams, say what you
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  Speaker 2: want about him, Say what you want about last year.
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  Speaker 2: The guy's gifted. The guys talented. And I really really
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  Speaker 2: do like their head coach and Ben Johnson. The offense
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  Speaker 2: that he runs. I loved, love, love the defensive Lions
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  Speaker 2: offensive philosophy, their play calling, their schemes, how they're under center,
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  Speaker 2: they're in shotgun they do, They're versatile, they're creative. I
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  Speaker 2: have loved that in the past. So I do think
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  Speaker 2: that they are going to continue to get better and
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  Speaker 2: be a really dangerous team at the back half of
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  Speaker 2: this year. And they do. Like you said, they went
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  Speaker 2: to Washington, they won and a just a nasty game. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: it was it was either team's game to win right there.
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  Speaker 2: You'd like to see Jayden, you had a couple of picks.
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  Speaker 2: I believe in then a fumble at the end one.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of his very few like blemishes in games
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  Speaker 2: like that. But if you can notice on television with
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  Speaker 2: the cameras, the quality of cameras that they use in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL, you can notice the rain and bad weather
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  Speaker 2: on TV, it's extremely bad on the field because most
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  Speaker 2: of the times when it rains, those cameras, you don't
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  Speaker 2: even see the rain. It's so crystal clearly you don't
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  Speaker 2: even see the rain, so you can't tell how bad
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  Speaker 2: it is. So it was really any any team's game
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  Speaker 2: to win on that one, But there's an emotional win
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  Speaker 2: for them, I'm sure. And the Saints, yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: going on the road, they have all the opportunity. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a Saints team that is playing hard. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: not the talent, the talent top to bottom that the
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  Speaker 2: Chicago Bears have, but a quarterback that's playing really well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I want to see him open it up, take some shots,
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  Speaker 2: take take a maybe take a few more risks here
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  Speaker 2: and there. But it's gonna be a it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a good matchup, and I think the I think the
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  Speaker 2: Bears are gonna be sneaky good again towards the last
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  Speaker 2: half of the season. But they do think it's a
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  Speaker 2: winnable game for the Saints. They gotta go on the road,
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  Speaker 2: They got to prove it. They just have to be
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  Speaker 2: able to make the plays that matter when it matters.
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  Speaker 3: I do think Spencer did take some more chances, even
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  Speaker 3: that that ball he threw to Chris Olave. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of like, hey, I'm gonna give a chance
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  Speaker 3: to my guy to go make a play. And then
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  Speaker 3: Chris Olave made the play, but then came down and
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  Speaker 3: he absolutely fumbled that ball.
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  Speaker 4: That was a catch in a fumble.
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  Speaker 3: They caught it incomplete, But like, that's a chance he
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  Speaker 3: probably didn't take in the first couple of weeks and so,
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  Speaker 3: and you saw him push the ball down the field
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  Speaker 3: certainly more in the last two games than he has before.
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  Speaker 3: But you're right, it's like one of those situations back
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  Speaker 3: when what year would that have been, twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels where he didn't have any interceptions and Brian kellyes,
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  Speaker 3: like now we kind of want you to throw one
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  Speaker 3: because we want you to take some chances and you
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  Speaker 3: don't have.
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  Speaker 4: To be perfect there.
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  Speaker 3: I do feel like over the last two weeks Spencer
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  Speaker 3: Ratler has and probably because he feels safe for in
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  Speaker 3: his job security, it's probably like, Okay, I can take
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  Speaker 3: that chance now. Now you're not reckless, right, It's just
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  Speaker 3: a chance because it's like a fifty to fifty situation
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  Speaker 3: and you're gonna throw it up to your guy and
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  Speaker 3: allow him to go make a play.
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  Speaker 4: But in the first couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to assume that he was like, man, if
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  Speaker 3: I throw two interceptions here, I'm have Tyler shuck in
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  Speaker 3: this game real quick, and I don't want that.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just and a couple of plays here or
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  Speaker 2: there changes everybody's kind of view of this, their outlook
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  Speaker 2: on kind of changes that narrative. I think that's the
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  Speaker 2: only narrative out there that would be at least pointing
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  Speaker 2: in the direction of a negative towards his play. Was like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I think we I know you have
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  Speaker 2: only one interception on the season. I think we want
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  Speaker 2: to kind of take a risk here there at times.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's not every play, and you don't want him
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  Speaker 2: to make a big adjustment in that direction, Like if
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  Speaker 2: he hits one or two more plays in a game
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  Speaker 2: that narrative's changed because I mean you look back at
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  Speaker 2: I mean we used to watch clips and clicks. We
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  Speaker 2: played a lot of common opuements. Watch Drew Brees all
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  Speaker 2: the time. And it was shallacross, shallacross, flare rout, screen
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  Speaker 2: behind the line of scrimmage, screen, shalacross, shalacross, post route, Yeah, gellacross, shalacross,
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  Speaker 2: stick route, go ball like it was. It was that
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  Speaker 2: type of situation. So that that is how the good
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks operate. That is how they are successful because you
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  Speaker 2: are patient, patient, patient, and then when the opportunity is there,
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  Speaker 2: you take advantage of it. You take advantage of a
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  Speaker 2: mistake that the defense makes. It's not like I'm calling
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  Speaker 2: this play because I want to go deep and I
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  Speaker 2: want to Sometimes you do that when you pass protect
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  Speaker 2: and you have something that you saw on film where okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna occupy the free safety, then we're gonna run
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  Speaker 2: a deep V route with the backside guy. We know
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  Speaker 2: this is a shot play, but most big plays are
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  Speaker 2: not called quote unquote shot plays. They are you run
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  Speaker 2: your offense and you take advantage of a mistake that
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  Speaker 2: the defense makes. But when that happens, you have to
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  Speaker 2: see it and you got to make the play. And
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  Speaker 2: the Saints just have not made that play enough. Now
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  Speaker 2: we saw it more. We certainly saw it more first
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  Speaker 2: play the game this past week. They made the play
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't probably called like we know that this is
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  Speaker 2: gonna be a deep shot, and it was all right,
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  Speaker 2: if it's there, let's take it. If not, shat lacrosse
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  Speaker 2: check down, and I think he's been Maybe the coaching
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  Speaker 2: point is, hey, on these certain situations, on these certain plays,
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  Speaker 2: maybe give it, like just a split second more to
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  Speaker 2: read that safety's momentum. Read that safety he's on his
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  Speaker 2: heels or not the fees you know you read when
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  Speaker 2: you take shots, like you're reading the safety. It's if
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  Speaker 2: they're backpedaling, if they're on their heels, back pedaling like
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  Speaker 2: looking at like a crossing route. And you got a
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  Speaker 2: guy running a post. He's running full speed even if
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  Speaker 2: they are at the same level, and he doesn't look open.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, you gotta say, all right, this guy's open
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  Speaker 2: because my guy's running full speed. The other guy's back pedaling,
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  Speaker 2: so he's open. So maybe give like that type of
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  Speaker 2: read a split second longer so I don't want him
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  Speaker 2: to change much, if anything at all. Yeah, I just
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  Speaker 2: think they got it. They do have to hit those
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  Speaker 2: plays and went in their whole operation of the offense.
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  Speaker 2: Like look, one or two more big plays made in
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  Speaker 2: a game, that narrative is completely cut out.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm sure you enjoyed like him taking this shot
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  Speaker 3: early in the game, because a lot of times that
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  Speaker 3: route is clearing for what you're talking about, like a
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  Speaker 3: shallow cross.
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  Speaker 4: Something coming underneath.
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  Speaker 3: I mean every level of football has that where you
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  Speaker 3: run the rail and here comes shallow cross from the
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  Speaker 3: other side, and the rail is supposed to take the
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  Speaker 3: coverage with them. But if they don't cover the rail,
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  Speaker 3: or if you think the rail route has you know,
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  Speaker 3: a step ahead, take the shot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing says you can't throw it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, even like even most quick games, most quick games
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  Speaker 2: where when you have five eligible receivers, even if it's
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  Speaker 2: a three step drop and we got a slant flat
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  Speaker 2: or a triple slant on one side, or a stick
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  Speaker 2: route which is sticking like a five yard out route. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: at least there's usually one guy that's going deep. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: one guy that's running at least a fade route or
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  Speaker 2: a corner route or something like that. So and it's
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  Speaker 2: like alert, alert that if it's normal down a distance
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  Speaker 2: and you got what you want, alert the deep ball.
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  Speaker 2: So at that it's like, okay, well we just said it.
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  Speaker 2: It was a shot play. We had a shot play.
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  Speaker 2: It was a forty five yard game. Awesome first down.
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  Speaker 2: I love how our offense is taking shots now. Well,
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  Speaker 2: in reality, it was a three step drop that we've
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  Speaker 2: already called five times in the game. He just hit
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  Speaker 2: a slant, he hit a stick route, he hit a
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  Speaker 2: flat route, and then they just presented this opportunity. And
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  Speaker 2: I think early in the season a lot of that
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  Speaker 2: didn't present itself because of all the shell coverage that
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  Speaker 2: the Saints were facing. And they're like, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: y'all are talented enough. I don't think y'all are good
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  Speaker 2: enough to go fifteen plays and walk it down the field,
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  Speaker 2: taking three four five yards at a time. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think you can run. I think you're gonna make mistakes,
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna have penalties. And they were kind of right, yeah, right,
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  Speaker 2: they're right, and they just didn't allow I mean, a
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  Speaker 2: defense they don't want you to throw the ball. A
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  Speaker 2: defense doesn't have to let you.
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  Speaker 3: Take and look credit to Spencer Ratler early in those
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  Speaker 3: games because he didn't force the issue. He didn't, you know,
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  Speaker 3: become reckless with the football. But they were gonna make
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  Speaker 3: you prove that you could do something else. And now
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  Speaker 3: that he has you're gonna see some different looks and
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna have the opportunities, and you got to take
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  Speaker 3: those opportunities. And look, if he throws for an interception,
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  Speaker 3: that's fine, right, If he takes those chances and he
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  Speaker 3: throws for one, it's okay. I know he only has
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  Speaker 3: one on the year, But as the playbook opens up,
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  Speaker 3: as the coverage opens up a little bit, you'd like
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  Speaker 3: to see your quarterback go out there and do what
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  Speaker 3: he did. Like last week, there was no checkdown Charlie,
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  Speaker 3: like he was reading it and if it was there,
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  Speaker 3: he was letting it rep. He's taking chances down the sideline.
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  Speaker 3: Some were completed, some were not because the guy graised
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  Speaker 3: your forearm with his hand and it became too much
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  Speaker 3: to catch the football. So I thought last week was
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  Speaker 3: it was a lot of real growth. And look, Spencer's
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  Speaker 3: been the top five in the top five of graded
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  Speaker 3: offensive players for the Saints all year long, but he
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  Speaker 3: was the second highest graded quarterback in the entire NFL
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  Speaker 3: last week, and you could see that on tape, Like
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  Speaker 3: the tape told the story of that grade. And I
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  Speaker 3: think that hopefully has unlocked something with him and within
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  Speaker 3: the offense that they can now play.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit more aggressive. It doesn't have to be
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  Speaker 4: a whole lot, just a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: More aggressive here in this game against Caleb Williams because
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  Speaker 3: Calep's gon to play aggresive because Caleb knows he's the
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  Speaker 3: first overall pick.
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  Speaker 4: He knows he's the guy, and he knows he can
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  Speaker 4: take chances.
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  Speaker 2: And Ben Johnson is gonna take He's a shot taker, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and he likes to hit you with a running game,
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  Speaker 2: hit you a quick game pass, and then all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, we're gonna play action and hit a hit
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  Speaker 2: a deep shot, and we're gonna hit a couple of
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  Speaker 2: reverses up, maybe a reverse pass, a little Philly special line.
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  Speaker 2: Like he's just a guy that does a lot of
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  Speaker 2: those crazy random things and they usually work. He just
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  Speaker 2: times it up really well. But you saw with Spencer Rattler,
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  Speaker 2: you started seeing a little fire come out of him
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  Speaker 2: late in the game, little competitiveness. And I think we
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  Speaker 2: talked about this yesterday with Nick Underhill. It's like that
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  Speaker 2: little ghost, that little little ghost of Tyler Shuck over
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  Speaker 2: his shoulder. I think it's starting to fade away a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. With the better and better he's playing, the
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  Speaker 2: more confident and more you see that, I think, the
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  Speaker 2: more leeway you give him to take charge.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, let's go ahead and take a break.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be laughing at it.
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  Speaker 4: There life. She got the sneezes over there.
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  Speaker 2: I just keep sneezing, just over and over saying the
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  Speaker 2: ghost of Tyler shuck. I mean, he's still here with us.
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  Speaker 5: He's still with us.
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  Speaker 6: And also we know Spencer bullies and goes to some
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  Speaker 6: degree degree.
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  Speaker 2: Friend of the Show, Spencer Rautler.
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  Speaker 5: Friend of the Show, Spencer Ratler, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, uh tough questions? Are you ready? No?
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  Speaker 4: Not to take over the float for him?
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  Speaker 2: I think away, We're good, We're good.
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  Speaker 4: I throw it away because he's up. He's up. Get
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  Speaker 2: How do you ask questions? I don't even know what
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  Speaker 2: to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, good question.
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• 15:32
  Speaker 2: got rid of them. We dropped the dead weight, Doc.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: Very special?
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: Sitting here on the whole side of the table to myself,
• 15:40
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: We're not same side sitters right now. It's fantastic. I
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: don't know, so do y'all go through like I think
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: that is the second time you played Is that that's
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: the second time you played Outcast? I go through like
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: these random outcast kicks where I just listened to Outcasts
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: for like three weeks and I won't listen to him
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: for three years.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're so good, all right?
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: Everybody they're calling.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: You, they're calling me. Is that like the great value vers? Okay, well,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: fair enough, I'll take that. He's pretty good. All right.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: We're here just like we do every single week. We
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: got LSU team doctor doctor Steven Ethridge joining the show. Doc.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: How we doing doing great?
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: How about yourself?
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic. Uh you know, just uh Jacob taking
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: the training wheels off here and we're just gonna roll
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: right into it. So, yeah, we got a lot of
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: a lot of injuries out there, a lot of things happening,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: nothing specific with with the LSU team, but we've in
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: college football for sure, there was some uh, some injuries
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: that kind of took some headlines last week and made
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: some big difference in the top ten, probably in the
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: top ten of college football. We of course, the Oklahoma
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Sooner quarterback John Mattie are choosing to play after really
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks. I think he thumb injury,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: thumb surgery. What did you kind of think of that decision?
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: It seemed pretty quick that he just kind of got
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: rushed back there.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it felt really fast.
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: You know, he never want to be critical of anybody's
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: decisions to how they handle things. But you know, I
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: think when all of us talked about it, you know,
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: we knew it was a hand injury. We heard thumb injury.
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: You know, a lot of the reports that a broken bone.
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: You know, typically those injuries, whether it's a broken bone,
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: whether it's a torn ligament, if it's something to requires surgery.
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: In our experience, you're looking at a few more weeks
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: than that.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: I know, it's a big game.
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: I'm sure he wanted to play, and I'm not saying
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: it was it was the wrong decision at the time.
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: It sure looks like it in hindsight, just the way
• 17:33
  Speaker 7: he played. You know, you got to assume, you know,
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: there's certain positions with the thumb injury, and I think
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: we had talked about this in the past, but you know,
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: if I'm a defensive lineman, we can put a big,
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: you know, cast over the hand.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: You can club it up, it's a lot easier to play.
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: But when you're a quarterback as you're throwing hand at
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: that or wide receiver, it's a little bit of a
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: different injury.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I remember so when I was my senior year,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I had a high ankle spring, and I remember it
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: was a big deal to kind of not hide the injury,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: but hide the fact like which foot it was, Like,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I remember, we went to very extensive like spat both
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: feed up the exact same way, because when you have
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: an injury like that, it's also kind of a big,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: big target, a big bullseye for the defense. So as
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: much as like we want to say it's a you know,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: sound a gentleman's game out there, like you're looking for
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: every advantage you can. I think we talked about it.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Booger McFarlane just like on calling on ESPN was like, oh,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: well John Ateer's got a right hand. He's like, if
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I'm a defensive lineman, I'm looking for that to step on. Yeah,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: So it's like that, it's got to be something that
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: like ways on the medical staff, the training staff, like
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: how do you protect it in between plays?
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: Well, you do your best, like you said, is there
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: some some gamesmanship or we're gonna try and hide it,
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: or we're gonna try and downplay whatever. Of course, you
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: know you're gonna hear that a lot, but but it is.
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: It is a physical game. You know, you're gonna take
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: every advantage you can get. And some people don't like
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: hearing that, you know, for those people who never played
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: the game or don't understand it's it's it's it's war
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: out there, you're trying to win. It may seem dirty,
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: and it really it is dirty, but that's what people
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: are gonna do. There's gonna be guys. They're gonna try
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: and grab that thumb and twist it in a pile.
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: They're gonna step on it, they're gonna kind of roll
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: over on it. They're gonna do what they can. And
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: for an injury that that is that acute, you know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: it's something that clearly, in my opinion, affected his play.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: And then so do I remember so I think they
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: were talking about it like game day they had so
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: he had surgery on it, and it was a pretty
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: pretty sizable screw that was put into his thumb. And
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: this is like if you're a quarterback and if it's
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: our left hand fine like a right hand. That's I mean,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: there's no way two weeks post surgery, like what what
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: what should the normal lead time be like that? And
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I know it's different for defensive line. Someone that doesn't
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: isn't having to use to find motor skills of their
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: fingers that you can club it up. You can do
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: stuff like that before a quarterback, for a receiver, for
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: even a running back that's got to hold onto the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: ball and grip it did not fumble. Like what would
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: your normal like recommendation be we got to sit or
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: is it more of like, let's see how the rehabs going.
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: It's a little bit of both. You want to see
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: the swellings gone down. You want to see that function
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: is good. So we're gonna look at can you open
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: and close your hand? Can you grip as your deckst
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: already there? You know, we look with the thumb, You're
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: gonna look at opposition strengths. So when you kind of
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: hold your thumb towards your pink, you're one of your
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: other fingers is their strength, is their full motion. So
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: that's what you want to see first. But then you
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: also want to kind of see, you know, is this
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: thing healing. You know, you're gonna look for if it's
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: a broken bone, is there what we call a callus
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: that's forming. Is there a new bone that's forming around
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: that fracture site. So you want to know that it's
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: a stable injury, because even with a screw or some
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: kind of hardware in there, you still want to see
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: an injury healing. It's still, especially in some of these
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: small bones in the hands, it's not like the hardware
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: is going to be as strong as it might be
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: another places. You know, we've talked about the high ankles
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: when we do the tight rope procedures, and that we
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: know that tightrope holes that ankle together. It's a little
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: different with these little di bones. You want to see
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: that they are healing first. So we're looking on an
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: X ray, we're looking on a CT scan, we're doing
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: our evaluation, you know, and typically you're looking at a
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: position like quarterback or wide receiver. You're you're probably looking
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: at it more like a month, you know, on the
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: short end. Sure, it's kind of been our experience. Start, yeah,
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: get started doing that.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: So like when when when you have surgery and guys
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: have like metal put into the when they have screws.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Is that what you want to see as a doctor,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: You want to see new bone growth around that.
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: For a lot of the injuries, again, each location is
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: a little bit unique, but it's just kind of a
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: blanket statement.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: Usually that's part of what we look for. You want
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: to see that the body is responding, you know, is
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: there some healing, is there some recovery because even though
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: the screw is there, if it's a smaller screw, or
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: if it's in the hand, where's such a small joint,
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: sometimes you still need a little bit of extra reinforcement there.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, So all right, another injury on the NFL level,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: or I guess what wasn't an injury, but it made
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of headlines. The New York Giants played this
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: past week and an absolutely electric game, a division game
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: for them. They got they got two just absolute meathead
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: rookies playing for them. They got Camp Scatterby. They got
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Jackson Dart. Okay, so Jackson Dar's playing great. They are
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: a moment, they're playing a game about to win, a
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: game that you know, people are saying they shouldn't win,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: and it is in the height of the moment. They
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: got the ball they're driving, he's playing great, They're up
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: by I can't remember the score, but it was probably
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: a one score game at the time, and they need everything,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: they need all the bullets they can. Well, he gets hit.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: It didn't look like like a crazy hit on the head,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: but sometimes like a concussion or something, some sort of
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: brain injury doesn't always look bad. Sometimes it does, but
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: on this occasion it didn't. So they rush them off
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: to the side, They rush them to the tent, and
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: a ton of controversy coming out of all these people
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: going to the tent. Brian Dave all trying to rush
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: them out of the tent. What is Is the tent
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: a sacred place? Is it a place where not many
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: people have admission to it? Is the coach normally is
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: it coach allowed to go into there? Is other players
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: allowed to go into that tent? What happens in that tent?
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: Well, well, by design, yeah, it's supposed to be a
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: little bit of an inclusive areas, supposed to be something
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: that's private that gives you a little bit of a
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: sanctuary on the sideline. From the medical standpoint, somewhere we
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: can go where you don't have the prying eyes of
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: whether it's the coaching staff, but also you know, the media,
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: the fans, everybody.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: That's part of it.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: Part of it is privacy, part of it is dignity,
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: part of his being able to do a good exam
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: without that pressure from from what you know, can be
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: a high pressure situation if you're trying to get a
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: guy ready to go out.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: There with concussions.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: The NFL has their policy which is similar to everybody.
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: We all have a policy, but the NFL is is
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: probably one of the most rigid ones, at least in
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: American sports, and the tent during concussion protocol by NFL standards.
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: Part of their league policy is yes, it is a
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: closed environment. It is basically team physicians, athletic trainers, and
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: that's pretty much it. So if a coach is coming
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: in there or even you know, I think Scataboo went
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: in there just to check on his guy, that technically
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: is a violation, which but yeah, and I don't know
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: what the conversation was, but but on the you know,
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: and and there's a part of me though that gets
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: that because these are also guys that love each other.
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: These are guys that you know, I mean, sure, I've
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: been in the tent plenty of times. We're looking at,
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: you know, one of the guys. You know, if if
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: you're in the tent and and you know, Jacob might
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: comming and say, hey, this is my guy.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Is he okay?
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: And that's that's just his love, That's that's me showing
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: my guy. I'm here for you, that's me being there.
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: So I do, I do have some sympathy in that situation.
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: And I also get the coaching standpoint. You know, you
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: don't have a timeline is is this guy gonna be
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: ready to go in five minutes.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Or do we know? Do you know the answer?
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: You burn a precious time out right there, right.
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: And if you know you're gonna get your guy back,
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: that makes sense, you're like, hey, we're about done here.
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: But having said that, the policy is the policy, and
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: the policy in the NFL is that if it is concussion,
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: if it's head or neck injury, no one else can
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: come in the tent until the exam is done. And
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: it is so that there is that not that undue
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: pressure because you know, I can I can think back
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: to you know, one of the situations, and this is
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: one that was a very obvious one, but you know
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: when when a burrowed you got hit in the UCF game,
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: everybody thought he had a concussion. I thought he had concussion.
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: And yeah, and I'm walking out there, and I mean,
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: I'm going through my head already. I'm like, dang, I'm
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: gonna have to talk to coach. I'm gonna tell O
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: that that his guys out and you know, and and
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: and we had to you know, our our backup was
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: almost of medical stuff at that point. So we had
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: a scenario where it was, you know, I'm already prepping
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: myself for that conversation. Well if he wasn't, he was
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: clear as a bell. And I mean I did everything
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: on him twice, and like he's got to have a concussion, right.
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: But in the NFL, the policy is you're in the tent,
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: you cannot have anybody else come in the tent until
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: you are done. And you know, so they may probably
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: get a fine or I think they can even lose
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: a draft pick. There's a whole bunch of potential penalties
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: their policy. Like I said, they have independent neurologist on
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: the sideline. They have a very rigid policy, and most
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: of us have a pretty rigid policy with concussions. They're
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: just slight variabilities from one group to another.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't know. I mean, Brian Dabo might
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: not have even known he was in concussion protocol. You
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: might have thought it was a shoulder or something like that.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: But have you on the sideline have you ever been
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: absolutely yelled at and undressed by a head coach?
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: I have not on the sideline.
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: I've had a couple of players, you know, because one
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: thing that people have to understand too is an addition
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: to everything that we're looking at, we have the medical
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: spotters that are up.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: So we have a spotter that's up in the booth.
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: And there was one time when one of the players
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: got pretty angry with me because the spotter had called
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: down and said, hey, you need to check this guy out.
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: He got hit in the head. And once that call
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: comes down, we have to check them out. That is
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: part of our policy is if I get a call
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: from the spotter, I can't just say, oh, now he's fine.
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: So I get a call from spotter. If they call
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: and say, hey, you need to check on Flinn. If
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: even if you're in the game, we have to pull
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: you out. If it's for a head injury. I have
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: to do an evaluation before you go back in. And
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: I had a guy that was just really really angry,
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: uh because he'd tell him he's fine, and it is
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: your fault. Yeah, it was my fault, you know. And
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: and and you know when he of the moment I
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: get it motioned adrenaline, he's he's jacked up, you know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: he doesn't want to come out of the game. And
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: the sad thing is he spent so much time, like
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: you know, fussing and arguing with us, and you know,
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: the trainers over there, coaches had to come settle them down.
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: And finally we do our evau and he was fine,
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: but we wasted so much time that if you just said, hey,
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: do the evout would have taken just a few minutes.
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: Never never had too bad from a coach that there was.
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: There was an event where we had a pregame because
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: where the coach is pretty angry because it happened for
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: the game. Uh, but not really with me, you know.
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: And I know sometimes he the moment it's like just wait,
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: we got one in pregame. This guy's going on.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: It was crazy.
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: And so sometimes they get they get animated, they get heated,
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: they get excited, and I think even in most of
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: those situations, you understand they're they're trying to get their
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: head around what's going on, and they're trying to win
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: a game. And you know, I think We've been pretty
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: lucky with our coaching staff. I've never felt pressure to
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: get a guy healthy. I've never felt like I had
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: to do something to make the coaching staff happy. And
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: I know that does happen someplaces sometimes.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: So with the concussion with the brain injury we see
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, and I think a lot of people
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: roll their eyes at this when they see it, But
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: we've seen a lot of people with the Guardian caps on,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: with the logo. A couple of receivers for Green Bay Taylor.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Taylor doesn't like looking at it. Is there good evidence
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: and research that that improves the safety I'm assuming it does,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Or is a guy that's wearing that somebody that's kind
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: of predisposed to it, who's had concussions in the path
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: and should the way Jackson Dart dives into people, should
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: he wear one?
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: So the concussion caps, the Guardian caps, there is some
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: evidence there. It's pretty clear that they do reduce the
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: risk of concussion that there's a lot of evidence mostly
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: the NFL does a really good job that they have
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: a lot of data on head injuries that they have
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: date on helmets. So just anybody that's looking for a
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: helmet for your kid, if you want to the best helmets,
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: you can go to the NFL and they will rate
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: the helmets from their best all the way down, and
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: they'll show you the ones that are kind of junk
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: for preventing concussions. But they've done a lot of research
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: in the guarding caps. They did it, you know, looking
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: at looking at practices through camp, they had all the
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: teams wearing them, looking at the incidents of concussions they
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: did go down. That's that's why they opened that opportunity. Look,
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: I agree, I think they're ugly, but you know, you know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: I don't like the look on the one hand, but
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: but they work. You know, we wear them at practice
• 28:16
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  Speaker 4: Would you rather?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you got one?
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  Speaker 2: Mm? I got one right. We didn't have like a
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  Speaker 5: We don't have one for that, but I am I
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  Speaker 8: In honor of spooky season, would you rather stay in
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: a non haunted Hells for an entire weekend or have
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: to hide from a slasher for an whole weekend?
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: I basically grew up in a haunted house, so I'm
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: staying in the haunted house.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, the I have stayed in some haunted houses too.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: The place that we stayed at at training camp in
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Green Bay Saint Norbert's College that the dorm that we
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: stayed in was haunted. I stayed in the haunteds place
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: in Buffalo some kind of like Spencer Rally and to
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: a certain extent, definitely not the go situation.
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: I feel like that's when you either have to be
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: all in on or not though, like I don't know
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: how you can believe in them and to some degree, yeah, and.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Then from the like so definitely that Like I don't
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: want to like the chance to get murdered. You don't
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: think you're gonna get, you know, murdered by ghosts. You
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: might be get scared. But a slasher, if you're a slasher,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: and you get the term slasher like you're pretty, you're
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: pretty brutal to you're probably a badass, like you're not
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: you gotta be tough, right, You're not carrying a pocket
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: knife around. You're more like acts of masshif. Yeah, fake
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: tough guys are carrying around firearms. But if you're just
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: a slasher, like you're bad, you're all right. But you
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: watched some of these slasher movies and the people running
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: from are pretty dumb. They are in the heat of
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: the moment, I get it. You make emotional decisions. Your
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: brain's not thinking correctly, but from the outside looking in,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: real dumb decisions.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: Very dumb.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Mich he just walks.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, super fat like.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: He got a little bit more magical appears as the
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: movies went on to get more magical.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: The.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: More deep into the Halloween series that you.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Get, the more like supernatural.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: I have a theory that Michael Myers actually sprints and
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: then when people start to turn around, he walks again.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: And he's off camera. Bro, he's he's high.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: Means, what's like the fastest forty of all time?
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Believe bo Jacks. I think I think ran a four
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: to one.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: Michael Myers probably wins or runs like a three five
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: or something like that.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or as like transport like, uh yeah, it's gotta
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: be kind of really defines physics. But we're all in agree.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: In hornted house, Yeah, it's on a house.
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: Ye.
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: Would you be more scared in a hanted house that
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: you'd survive better because it's not gonna happen?
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: But would you be more scared in the house, But
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I'd be terrified for my life?
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: Slasher Again, I grew up in a haunted house, So
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: I haunted ghosts don't bother me.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I've stayed the night here. Yeah, this place is harnted.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: So like when I was in the dorm in Green Bay,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: like we were, it was there was ghost situations happening,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: there's paranormal activity. Many of my close friends witnesses of it,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: felt it right. When that situation happens, you know, you
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: just put the covers over your head, close your eyes,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: ignore it, and then you're good. If you just close
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: your eyes Stareth Wall, what can they do?
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: But yeah, that's I was gonna say, like, what does
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: it really matter if there's a ghost or not.
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: You know, there's just like a spirit here chilling with me,
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: but it's not gonna do anything to me, so it
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: doesn't really have an effect on me. So I don't
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: really care if there's a if a house is haunted.
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm one thousand percent staying in the haunted house.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, here's a good one. Let's stick with a Halloween
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: theme coming up. Would you rather go to for fun?
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Of course, go to a haunted house, a Halloween haunted house,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: thirteenth d or whatever, or a really good corn maze?
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Is the corn maze also I think like you could
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: have half of the corn maze where it's family friendly,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: half of it haunted.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: Then corn maze.
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, corn maze, I'm gonna say corn maze. Corn maze
• 36:43
  Speaker 8: is more naturally scary. You're outside, it's a nighttime, you
• 36:46
  Speaker 8: can't really see, like you're trying to navigate your way
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: through it while being scared.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Like I think, I think a corn maze is like
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: scary by itself. Yeah, so probably that. Yeah, you can
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: control the controllables a little bit more there. I feel
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: like in a haunted house, it's I hadn't been to
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: hotted house since like ninth grade. I went two weeks ago,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: probably weeks ago.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: But if we did an OTV Thirteenth Gate and film, I.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Hadn't been to the UH. I hadn't been to the
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: thirteenth Gate since like, oh college and UH I went
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: two weeks ago.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: Why do I feel like y'all made me go in
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: the front.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Because we would There used to be a corn maze
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: in bean Rouge in college that was I don't know
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: if it was out on Nicholson or was it used
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: to want to Poured Island right across the bridge. There
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: was one that wasn't across the bridge. It was maybe
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: it was like three or four something like that. It
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: was early on in my college career. Maybe it's out.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I thought it was out on Nicholson and it was
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: like that. It was like a pretty legit corn maze.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: And one side was like just the maze, you'll figure
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: it out. And one side was like people with chainsaws
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: like chasing. You still got one up in pine Grove.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: The You don't know where that is. It's close to Kentwood, Okay,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Okay, here's another Halloween one.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I like this.
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: I know, would you rather turn into a scarecrow every
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: night or have that's constantly nesting in your hair a scarecrow? Right?
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, so say the first one turn a scarecrow.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: Every night every night, or have that's constantly nesting in
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: your hair.
• 38:20
  Speaker 8: At least I'm something cool with his share at least
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: like yeah, because the bird's gonna land on you.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well actually yeah, I want to be done. I
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: don't want to bat landing on me. At least I'm
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: averaging twelve good hours a day. I think scarecrows they
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: just chill. They're probably getting some sleep.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: Okay, I feel like that wasn't that great?
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: So would you rather have to babysit Chucky for a
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: weekend or share a bunk bed with Pennywise.
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: I'm babysitting Chucky. I'm gonna throw him across the room
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: repeatedly until he gives up. That's anybody ever seen the
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: movie Child's Play? It is not a horror movie.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: It's hilarious. It's kind of funny. It's a hilarious movie.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I'm choosing. I guess I'm choosing Chucky. Ye, Anywise, Like,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I don't do that. I don't mess with clown sue.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: No, clowns are so freaky to me.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Let's see Chucky open the door. He's like a foot
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: toll walking in a closet. Right, you don't have.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: On Wolf of Wall Street where they're with the little people.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you just do that to Chucky, put him
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: in a bell crow suit and start throwing him at targets.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: And I didn't expect to bring this up, So I
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: don't have all like all the I don't have an
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: all that information like that sort of give. But did
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: y'all see that clip the guy there's this YouTuber, young
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: guy who bought like the this doll that is like
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: the most haunted doll.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Bull. No, it's it's a well known guy, Anna Bell doll. Yeah,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: there you go. And he had and he bought this
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: whole house with like all these haunted artifacts. And I'm like, man,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: this dude, wait no, no, no, no, this was Matt Rife. Yeah,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know who that is. He's a comedian.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: Matt rf did this insane. He bought the insane.
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: I don't know if he bought the house. He bought
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: like the rights to the house that the dolls kept
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: in or something like that. It's it's something weird.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did. He bought for like one hundred years
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: or something like or twenty years. He owns the rights
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: to it. Like that doll.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: She's creepy.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I know, M.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Just thinking about it. Yeah, sixteen Days of Halloween. All right,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: all right, flavor, flav it was actually a fun Would
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• 40:36
  Speaker 2: to get Jake out of here? It's a tripod? All right,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: we're gonna come back. We will close out our number two,
• 40:43
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• 40:49
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  Speaker 2: What an anomaly? All right? So we talked about l
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  Speaker 2: s U Vandy and the big kind of storyline for
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: me right now outside of the x's and o's, is
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: that Vanderbilt is favored against LSU. I think it started
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: at about a point point and a half. I think
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: it's up to two and a half point favorites against
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: the top ten, one loss LSU football team. What the
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: hell is happening? I don't know. Vanderbilt is they got
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: a a group, they got a head coach, they got
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: a team that is eras tacking up, they got a
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• 43:16
  Speaker 2: y'all tell me when the last time LSU was or
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Vandy was favored against LSU.
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: Never it's gotta be like seventies eighties or the nineteen
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: ninety game they won nineteen forty eight.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: This was my next guest was nineteen forty eight was
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: the last time Vanderbilt was favored against the LSU fighting tires,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: So seventy seven since seventy seven years, and of course
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: we said it earlier. Vandy has not beaten LSU since
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety. So I kind of thought it'd be fun
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: to take a trip down memory lane and take a
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: look at what else in the world and in sports
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: was happening in nineteen forty eight, the last time Vandy
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: was favored against LSU. All right, we're gonna start with
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: just kind of the world. The state of Israel was proclaimed,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: first year of it State of Israel. Nineteen forty eight,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Gandhi was assassinated, the Indian leader famous North Year, Big Year,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: it's a big year for nineteen forty eight, North and
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: South Korea were established as separate nations. So the last
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: time Vandy was favored was when North and South Korea
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: were established. They were just Korea. Also, the People's Republic
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: of China was also founded. The first Porsche car was created,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: the first bar.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: And Harry S.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Truman won a surprise victory in the US presidential electioning
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: he defeated Thomas E. Dewey. Hello, and then in sports,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: let's go away from I like that. Yeah you see.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: June twenty fifth, at New York's Yankee Stadium, Joe Lolis
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: knocked out Jersey Joe Walcott in the eleventh round to
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: retain his heavyweight title for the twenty fifth time. How
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: about that twenty five times? The defendit time. The Cleveland
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Indians defeat the Boston Braves four games. The two four
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: went out the Great Mambino Babe Ruth Askaway nineteen forty eight.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I know the horse citation becomes the eighth horse to
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: win the Triple Crown. How about that citation? Very famous,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: and the horse racing community. I'd have dabbled in a
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: few bets there, and then they grew. Golfer Ben Hogan
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  Speaker 2: wins two majors, wins the PGA Championship in the US Open.
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  Speaker 2: So the last time Bandy was favored over Elis Shoe,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: America was a real country, still had the paper boys
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: with their paper boy hats, and people said, yeah, you see,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: join us our three, We'll talk some more sports.
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  Speaker 1: Off the bench,