Latest / The Bolt Report / The Bolt Report | 15 January

Transcript

The Bolt Report | 15 January · The Bolt Report

• 0:11
  Speaker 1: It's the report.
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: Tonight, the reported murder by Russia of Australian Oscar Jenkins.
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: Why the Russian ambassador here should have been thrown out already. Also,
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: we'll hear from a general involved in Donald Trump's plant
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: to when the war in Ukraine. I'll tell you what that
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: plan is and anything like what the Tucker Carlson types
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: are predicted, and good, you'll get a sneak preview. And
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: it's an immigration wonderful Now Middle Eastern games blamed for
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: a war here that's responsible for many of the nearly
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: two hundred tobacco shops that we set alight, are we,
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: babe route, I'll talk to a politician in Europe and
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: it explains why the gates there are going up. And
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: Anthony Alberinezi gets cranky again. I'll show you is he
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: in the right headspace for the election? Well let me
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: start though with this man, Jordan van de Lamb, who's
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: been chosen by the Victorian Socialists to be their Senate
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: candidate in the election. Now he looks a bit harmless,
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: maybe gormlesus even, but there's a butt. What we're actually
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: seeing here is another example of the lefts toying with violence,
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: or at least the language of violence, to get their way.
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: They're bullies. We're seeing that everywhere right now, in global warmness,
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: blocking roads and vandalizing paintings, officers, even graves now and
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: Israel anti Israel extremists screaming abuse and threats and vandalizing synagogues,
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: even burning down one in Melbourne, Transgender extremists abusing and
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: even attacking women, women's rights activists, and aboriginal extremists in
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: Australia hate is destroying statues and talking even of war.
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: He has Senator Lydia Thorpe. Now, it's bad enough that
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: so many leftis activists now are once again justifying violence
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: to get their way because they count win their argument
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: with an argument or a vote. Worse, though, is that
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: a political party now wants to put one in the
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: Senate who says even murdering opponents isn't all bad. Like
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: I said Jordan van de Lamb, he's been picked as
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: a Senate candidate by the Victorian Socialist Party, which lists
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: the Victorian Trades Or Council as its address. How many
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: people will know him? He's that well, it's got two
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand followers on TikTok and seventy six thousand more
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: on Instagram ranting about wicked capitalists, bosses, landlords, and Israel.
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: Now he's posted a video inspired by the murder in
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: New York of an insurance company boss shot in the
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: back of the head, allegedly by activists Luigi Mangioni. Now
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: this alleged execution has excited so many he left us.
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: I've mentioned this before. Force Magazine even declared Luiji Maggiani
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: has become a social media folk hero of spirit. So
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: vander Lamb has in his video declares, so this alleged
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: murder did indeed do some good, even if he didn't
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: recommend it.
• 3:17
  Speaker 3: Fortunately, Luigi didn't stop the flow of capital, but he
• 3:20
  Speaker 3: did stop you know, one CEO. And I think that's
• 3:24
  Speaker 3: on the whole a good thing. I don't think what
• 3:26
  Speaker 3: he did was entirely bad. I think he helped move
• 3:29
  Speaker 3: the conversation regarding class consciousness.
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: A bit clear. When vander Lamb says he opposes individual's
• 3:38
  Speaker 2: murdering capitalism, it is because murder is bad. It's just
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: an individual's doing this that's not going to destroy Astro's
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: capitalism and his government.
• 3:49
  Speaker 3: If we oppose individual acts of terrorism. It's not because
• 3:52
  Speaker 3: of any moral reason or any moral indignation about the
• 3:55
  Speaker 3: value of a human life and all that kind of stuff.
• 3:57
  Speaker 3: It's because it's simply not enough. We cannot destroy capitalism.
• 4:01
  Speaker 3: We cannot overthrow capitalism just by killing a few CEOs.
• 4:05
  Speaker 3: We need to do way more than that. We cannot
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: defeat a government by killing a government minister. There needs
• 4:10
  Speaker 3: to be a massive struggle to defeat a government.
• 4:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, we just can't have one or two murders. It's
• 4:16
  Speaker 2: just not enough. Now. It seems we have fallen so
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: far as a culture that we've got a candidate for
• 4:23
  Speaker 2: our parliament who has no fear or shame in saying
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: this kind of stuff openly on video, and some viewers
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: of his video I actually think it's too soft, you know,
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: saying he doesn't recommend murder. One posted this response in
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: the absence of revolution, smoking killing a CEO is completely
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: acceptable now To people that might be thinking of murdering
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: capitalists out on their own, vander Lamb has this tip.
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: Instead, I would encourage them to join a group that
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: is organized and organizing and get involved places like RAHU,
• 4:59
  Speaker 3: join Palestinian protests.
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: Joined the Socialists or joined the Palestinian protest. Well, I
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: have said before that the Palestinian cause is just the
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: latest front not just Muslims, but for leftists who hate
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: democracy and the West. So there's no wonder so many
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: Palestinian protests includes so much vandalism, threats, abuse and hate speech.
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: Even so, I've got to ask why have the Victorian
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: Socialists not sacked Vander Lamb, Why has Victorious trace or
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: Council hosted such a political party, And shouldn't a cultural
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: elite now realize what a threat the left has become.
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: I heard something disturbing today about the Liberals. Now, let's
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: be honest, mean true. Peter Dutton has been doing brilliantly.
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: Is the Federal opposition leader. It was written off two
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: years ago. Its unelectable now who's got the coalition fifty
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: with the Labor after preferences. But it's not enough. If
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: Dunton wants to win the next selection, it's got to
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: offer much more than this. Now, one thing that's got
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: to do is finally we shuffle this front bench team.
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: After Foreign Affairs spokesman Simmer Birmingham Communications spokes and Paul
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: Fletcher both said they were quitting, but Dunton has been
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: stalling this for weeks. Any newbies he'll now promote have
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: lost the Christmas break to get up to speed within
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: the new jobs before in the ground really starts. I
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: wonder if one reason for that delay is that it
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: is clear who he badly needs to promote, but it's
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: just as clear that doing so will cause dangerous jealousies. Dutton,
• 6:43
  Speaker 2: of course must promote justus interemperty Price to a frontline portfolio.
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, Price did more than anyone to defeat Labour's
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: racist voice. In the twenty twenty three reference. She made
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: a devastating pairing with Peter Dutton, the sort of pairing
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: is has had with no one, and the Resolve poll
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: now says that Price is the coalition's most liked politician.
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: The Morgan Pole says she's the most trusted. She's also
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: brave and articulate. So why is this hugely effective woman
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: left sidelined as the coalition's Indigenous Australians spokesman. I get it,
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: she's the first term. I get it that she hasn't
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: got much experience, But I also hear that some other
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: Coalition politicians will be as jealous as hell if Peter
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: Dutton promoted her ahead of them, But I get asked,
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: don't they want to win the election? I mean, which
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: coalition politician gets as many invitations and party members to
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: come speak? So what does that tell her critics? And
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: there's another gain in promoting Price. Peter Dutton gives her
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: say some welfare programs as well as their Indigenous Australians
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: portfolio and tells her her job is to merge them,
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: shift Aborigines on welfare to mainstream programs so that all
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: welfare now is something that we hand out according to
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: need and no longer according to race. Everyone equal. Now
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: that would in fact fit perfectly with Peter Dutton's very
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: popular push to fly just the Australian flag, not to
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: race ones as well. No more racial divisions are strands
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: together now, I know, you know the election is going
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: to be decided most of all by economic issues astrains
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: the poorer, Inflation is still too high, electricity systems crumbling,
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: mass immigration creating housing crisis and so on. But Dutton
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: already has that covet it needs more. Where he's struggling
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: is getting enough senior Liberals to back his successful culture
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: wars like they mean it now too often Peter Dutton
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: seems almost alone in these things. I mean apart from
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: some fine exceptions which the Nationals of Mett Canavan and
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: the Liberals' Home Affairs spokesman James Patterson, and this can
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: make Dunte' seem well, it's just you know, floating thought
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: bubbles without much grunt behind them. Even so, you look
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: at his success so far with them. Defeating the Voice
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: was a huge critical turning point for Dutton's leadership, and
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: now it's got the government on the run for forcing
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: councils to again, you know, to make councils again hold
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: citizen share ceremonies on Astray Day. His campaign, in fact,
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: ju hatred has made the government look weak and sneaky
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: and divisive. So I say take the gamble, promote Senator
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: Price And to Liberals who complain, ausn't this what have
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: you done to win as many votes as her? Johnny's
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: a panel Michael cost the former New South Wales's Labor Treasurer,
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: and David Elliott, former New South Wales Liberal minister. Michael
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: where is Peter Dutton's reshuffle? Who do you think he
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: should promote and who demote? Because I think he does
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: need more.
• 10:00
  Speaker 4: Help than it's getting from some Andrew, I'm going to
• 10:04
  Speaker 4: disagree with you on this.
• 10:06
  Speaker 5: Look.
• 10:06
  Speaker 4: I do think that Senator Price is an exceptional political
• 10:12
  Speaker 4: candidate in any position she's put into, and I think
• 10:15
  Speaker 4: that one day she will be Prime Minister, our first
• 10:17
  Speaker 4: indigenous prime minister. I think that's all true. But I
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: think the culture wars can't be won in one term.
• 10:23
  Speaker 4: And I think Dutton's doing the right thing. He's picking
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: issues that he knows he can get immediate runs on
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: and Australia isn't a good one because you know, the
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: polling has shown very clearly where Australians are on that issue.
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: I think if he went further on the culture wards splitting.
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: His own party.
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: You've got to remember, and Dave continue this, how divided
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: the Liberals are internally you have it's still in New
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: South Wales a very left wing Liberal party. I think
• 10:50
  Speaker 4: he's got to focus on the economy. I think James
• 10:52
  Speaker 4: Carvill's right to win this election. You've actually got to
• 10:55
  Speaker 4: discredit the government's approach to the economy. It's the economy stupid.
• 10:59
  Speaker 4: I think that's got to be the slogan that guide's
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: policy and he's got so much on that. I know
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: you say that he's already winning, but he's got a
• 11:07
  Speaker 4: push through on what his solutions are and remind people
• 11:11
  Speaker 4: that then they're worse off three years later.
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was.
• 11:14
  Speaker 4: The beauty of the Trump strategy. And if you ask
• 11:18
  Speaker 4: that question and you're worse off today than you're were
• 11:20
  Speaker 4: three years ago, people are going to say very clearly
• 11:23
  Speaker 4: they are. And he's got a lot in that, you
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: know which stealth taxes the budget, declining productivity.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: With you, I'm not going to argue with you that
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: that should be Peter Dunt's main focus. What I'm saying
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: is appointing Senator Price to a portfolio, like I'm suggesting,
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: let's her do the culture warfare, and it fits perfectly
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: into the things that's already been saying about the flag,
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: about you know, the national anthem and whatever and that
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: kind of thing. So I don't know if it's a
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: separate culture war I think it's the same one, and
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: he can then give it to someone else to do.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: But that's me, David Elliott. What do you think?
• 12:02
  Speaker 6: Well, I think any liberal that opposes or begrudges just
• 12:05
  Speaker 6: Enter Price is a fool. She is a vote magnet,
• 12:09
  Speaker 6: and if you're a marginal seat candidate in Western Sydney,
• 12:12
  Speaker 6: or if you're a marginal seat candidate in regional Western Australia,
• 12:16
  Speaker 6: you want just Enter Price standing next to you at
• 12:18
  Speaker 6: every opportunity.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: And I think she's.
• 12:20
  Speaker 6: Proven that and she will be the silent canon against Wokism.
• 12:26
  Speaker 6: But as you're quite right, Michael's right them and it's
• 12:28
  Speaker 6: it's the economy first, second and third we need to.
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: Minimum.
• 12:34
  Speaker 6: I think the Coalition needs to win a half a
• 12:36
  Speaker 6: dozen seats in Metropolitan Sydney if it's going to get
• 12:39
  Speaker 6: a majority, and that means that we've got to win
• 12:42
  Speaker 6: Teals and we've got to win conservative, working class people
• 12:45
  Speaker 6: in Western Sydney and to do that, I think Jacinta
• 12:48
  Speaker 6: will be an asset. But we've also got to have
• 12:50
  Speaker 6: some local talent promoted as well. I mean, if you're
• 12:54
  Speaker 6: asking me who I think Dunton should be promoting other
• 12:57
  Speaker 6: than just Center, I think, you know, and for the
• 12:59
  Speaker 6: teals to be Dave Sharmar and b Caved Chitichen. If
• 13:02
  Speaker 6: you want some you know, red meat eating Western Sydney
• 13:06
  Speaker 6: conservatives'd go to somebody like Alex Hawk, who speaks the
• 13:09
  Speaker 6: language and can and can whip them up into a frenzy.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: I thought another Aletlantic would perhaps do the job. Look
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: at good points. There one other change I think Dutton
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: should make, and I do agree with you He's going
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: to go on the economy Michael, But like I said,
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: that would leave just inter free to do you know,
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: some of the flamethrowing on culture. One other change super
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: There are now reports of backbenches telling Peter Dutey should
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: cap compulsory super superannuation contributions to nine percent and let
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: people use their super above themselves their first home and
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: more than fifty thousand dollars at Dutton said he would allow.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: Would it be a good idea to give people more
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: freedom to spend their super on housing? As ac fit.
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: Andrew, It's always a good idea to give people freedom.
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: But I think that's another vote loser that I wouldn't
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: be recommending. And the reason I say that is that
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: one of the only things that probably the Turnbull government
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: that was reasonable was introduced what they call it the
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: First Home Super Saver scheme, which give concessional savings similar
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: to Super to first home buyers, and that's been relatively
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: successful and this government's reformed that the problem is that
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: most superbalances in this sort of age group where people
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: are looking for a home are pretty lower there around
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: sixty thousand dollars and really that's not going to buy
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: you much. Really, the housing issue is the issue, but
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: it's a supply issue and he really does need to
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: focus in on those supply issues, the planning problems. And
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: they will know this. It's impossible to get das through
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: and proper planning strategies even this government, men's government, our
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: New South Wales is struggling. Then you've got construction cross
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: which come into the ir reforms that they's got, this
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: government's failing on. And then the sort of financing pack
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: just I think where I'd be focusing an immigration of course.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: I don't forget the immigration rate. The immigration rate which
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: is self is David. I wonder if the Prime Minister
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: is the right headspace for an election campaign. I was
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: struck by how touchy was again at his press conference
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: in Tasmania today or one of them. Here are two examples.
• 15:22
  Speaker 7: So why won't you agree to a national cabinet on
• 15:24
  Speaker 7: anti Semitism.
• 15:26
  Speaker 8: I've had a meeting, yes, meeting.
• 15:31
  Speaker 7: The National cabinet idea though you have referred to the
• 15:33
  Speaker 7: meeting you've had, Could you address the national cabin idea?
• 15:35
  Speaker 8: Okay, when you finished right now would be great thing. No, No,
• 15:38
  Speaker 8: when now, let's let's get it all out.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: That's it good.
• 15:43
  Speaker 8: I've had a meeting with the Victorian premier and the
• 15:47
  Speaker 8: new Sowell's acting premier yesterday.
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: By leaving open the option of switcher legislation on salmon
• 15:53
  Speaker 7: farming in mcquarie Harbor. To what extent a you undermining
• 15:56
  Speaker 7: Tania Plima sec and her role which is a statutory
• 15:58
  Speaker 7: role under the APVC.
• 16:00
  Speaker 8: Not at all. You asked me hypothetical questions and you
• 16:04
  Speaker 8: get non confirming answers. Funnily enough, he.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Certainly didn't rule it out.
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: You said, do you consider that at the time?
• 16:11
  Speaker 8: Well, what does that mean?
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Hevin Eliott? What's going on with Albinizi and that good
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: bloke image that he had earlier?
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's stripping away, isn't it. I mean there is.
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: I've been around politics long enough to know that that's
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: a man under stress. That's a man who probably isn't
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: across the detail that he should be. I mean, he
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: shouldn't be belittling the journalists as much as we've all wanted
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: to do it, and I haven't, and I'm pretty sure
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: Michael's done it once or twice. I might have ever
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: encouraged a few of the journalists to gm up. But
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: I'm concerned that the Prime Minister is not really across
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: the detail, because you know, when fact creates a vacuum,
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: you philip with fantasy, and his response to what should
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: be detailed policy questions has been to divert attention and
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: that says to me that he's not starting the year well,
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: he was supposed to start the year well, everybody said
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: at the end of twenty four, you know, he's got
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: to come out guns blazing, and it doesn't look like
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: that's the mentality that he's taken with him.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Michael Cossa, David Elliott, thank you so much for you both,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: and thanks for coming on with me for the first time.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: David really appreciate that my pleasure. I've got news now
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: about a legal case that I've been covering that I
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: think is profoundly important. I mean, really it's about the
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: right to defend even the idea of truth, and of
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: course it's a fight to defend truth in biology. Last August,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: a federal court judge made what was to me in
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: an astonishing decision. He ruled that you can change your sex,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: maybe take some drugs, you have a surge and cut
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: things off, and a man could really become a woman instead.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: And he said that meant that a female only networking
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: app called Giggle there was meant to be a kind
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: of safe space for women, had broken the law by
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: telling a transgender activist called Ropsn Tickle she couldn't join up. Now,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: this decision was so wrong that I thought it was
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: critical that it be appealed. All the way to the
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: High Court is necessary, although that's so expensive, which I
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: hope is where viewers will come in joining me is
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: the head of Giggle, Sal Grover Sal, great to see
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: you again. The transgender woman who sued you, calling himself
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Roxanne Tickle, is now up in the anti Tickle wants
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: even more money from you as she's counter sewing. What's
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Tickle up to and what's the latest in your case?
• 18:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you so much for having me on, Andrew.
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: So yeah, so we have filed our appeal. So Tickle v.
• 18:39
  Speaker 9: Giggle is now officially gigglev Tickle and the first interesting
• 18:44
  Speaker 9: turn of events in it is that Tickle has applied
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: to cross appeal. So Tickle won the initial decision, the
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: round one of this, and is now appealing the decision
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: he won. He wants it upgraded from indirect discrimination to
• 19:02
  Speaker 9: direct discrimination. He wants more damages and also aggravated damages.
• 19:07
  Speaker 9: And I had to say, I mean, the last time
• 19:09
  Speaker 9: I was that this shocked was when the judge said
• 19:11
  Speaker 9: that sex is changeable when we all know that it isn't.
• 19:13
  Speaker 9: But I've been fighting this for three years now just
• 19:16
  Speaker 9: to be able to acknowledge truth and reality, and it
• 19:18
  Speaker 9: just keeps going and getting bigger. So that's where we're at.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: This is insane. I mean, for a decision by a
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: private company to say, listen, this is just for biological women,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: that you have to go to a court in the
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: first place, and that you lose, and that it costs
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: you years of stress and costs. Why are you fighting this,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: to be honest, because it is important.
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: I mean, this is truth in reality. This is just
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: the bedrock of society. This could happen to anybody. I mean,
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: I've learned the hard way that if you don't believe
• 19:54
  Speaker 9: in gender ideology in this country, the Federal Court is
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: not on your side. The drilling Human Rights Commission isn't
• 20:00
  Speaker 9: on your side. This started as an AHRC complaint and
• 20:03
  Speaker 9: then they intervened in the first round to interpret the law.
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: They interpreted the Sex Discrimination Act to be on the
• 20:09
  Speaker 9: side of men who claim to be women. They've applied
• 20:11
  Speaker 9: again to intervene into this next round, into the appeal.
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: And so I think you know, when you're fighting gender ideology,
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: like so many of us are, it is freedom of speech,
• 20:21
  Speaker 9: freedom of belief, and freedom of association, which is the fact,
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: like what we're actually fighting against. It's not just me,
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: it's so many women. It's Louise Elliott, it's more redeeming,
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: it's Angie Jones, it's Curly Smith that have been affected.
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: And the reality is is that anybody watching right now,
• 20:37
  Speaker 9: it could be you next. If you don't believe in
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: gender ideology, then they can do this to you.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Well, they can actually ruin you as well. This is
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: costing you. I can't imagine how many tens of thousands
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: of dollars. The last time you were on you said
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: you needed financial help to appeal this judgment. What can
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: viewers through to help you out?
• 20:58
  Speaker 9: Yes, So the first round was just a half a
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: million dollars and I mean this one is going to
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: shape up to be around the same. And then if
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: we have to go to the High Court after this,
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: which is a possibility to say that men are women.
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: So to help, it's make sure people are aware of it,
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: and also to help with the legal funds, we do
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: have a crowdfund. It's at giggle crowdfund dot com and
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: there's more information about the case and every time there
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: are updates. The first case management hearing will be in
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: February and then the appeal will probably be heard in
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: August and a decision by the end of this year.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: That internet address again, it's giggle crowdfund dot com. Giggle
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: crowdfund dot com, Salgrover, thank you so much and all
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the best. After the break, Russia still won't say if
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: it has indeed executed Australian Oscar Jenkins's report suggests the
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: top American general says, this looks like another war crime
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: by a country that's about to get I think a
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: rude shock from Donald Trump, promised Sir Anthony even Easy
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: today warned that he could throw out Russia's ambassador here
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: with Russia still not denying reports that I mentioned last
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: night that it had executed, in fact murdered, let's call
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: it that murdered. Australian Oscar Jenkins was captured fighting in
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Ukraine's army and film being slapped and mocked with his
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: hands tied.
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: I spoke with the Ukrainian ambassador on Monday in my office.
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: We call upon Russia to immediately confirm Oscar Jenkins' status.
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: We remain gravely concerned. We will await the facts to
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: come out, but if there has been any harm caused
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: to Oscar Jenkins, it is absolutely reprehensible and the Australian
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: government will take the strongest action possible.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: That's good, but I've actually said months ago that the ambassador,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Aleksey Pavlovsky should be thrown out. Already for two years
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: his Sydney consulate has allowed Australian Simeon Bolkov to hide
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: in that building from Australian police wanting myn allegations of assault,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: and it's led him pump out pro Russian propaganda, including
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: this celebration of the capture of Oscar Jenkins.
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: Excellent news today. Thank you to the Russian military. Glory
• 23:27
  Speaker 10: to the Marshia military. They'd taken Oscar Jenkins, an Australian
• 23:32
  Speaker 10: mercenary prisoner. The only way Oscar Jenkins is going to
• 23:35
  Speaker 10: avoid thirty five years in a gulag as if the
• 23:38
  Speaker 10: Australian government agrees to a prisoner exchange deal. And guess what,
• 23:41
  Speaker 10: I'm volunteering my candidacy because I've been sitting in this
• 23:44
  Speaker 10: Russian consulate for two years.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Why has the government allowed Russian diplomats to use a
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: consulate building in Sydney to hide an alleged criminal and
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: a Russian propagandist gloating over the capture of an Australian.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Russia has been stepping up. It's all out war on Ukraine.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: This is the biggest war crime, nearly three years after
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: its big invasion. Ahead of Donald Trump now being sworn
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: in as the US President again on Monday with a
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: promise to end that war. Join me again this year
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: will be General Jack Kean, who was Vice Chief of
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Staff of the United States Army in a four star
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: general and is now chairman of Institude to study the war.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I talked to him a short while ago. General Jack Keane,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: It's a real pleasure to catch up with you again
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: this year. Let's start with this. See if Russia has
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: done as reported, shot dead an Australian prisoner who signed
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: up to fight in the Ukrainian uniform for the Ukrainian Army.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: What does that tell you and how should we respond?
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, this is always a very difficult situation. The
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Russians are really off here in trying to say that
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: this individual should not be treated as a prisoner of war.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a volunteer to fight for Ukraine, fighting
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: in their armed services under their flag, and certainly he
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: absolutely qualifies as a prisoner of war. To suggest anything
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: else is a war crime, and particularly in terms of
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: threatening to kill him. And the sad thing is the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Russians certainly value the fact that their soldiers have been
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: taken as prisoners of war. And this Australian citizen, excuse me,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: fighting anoder Ukrainian flag is a bona fide prisoner of
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: war and there's no dispute about something like that, and
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: he should be treated as a prisoner of war and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: as such should be safeguarded.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Otherwise, what should we say about the North Koreans that
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: are fighting for the Russian side, hundreds of them Meanwhile,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump is going to be sworn in his president
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: next Monday. He plants to win the war in Ukraine.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: In one day later he changes to bringing Ukraine and
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Russia to the negotiating table. How is that wall going
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: and how and when do you expect it to win?
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the state of play in the war, the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Russians have sort of created something of an exaggerated narrative
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: and the fact that they're on offense and they are
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: and Ukrainians are on defense and they're for their winning,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: that's not a fact. In a year's time, andrew being
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: on offense, the Russians have gone no further than forty
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: to fifty kilometers in a year with this offensive operation.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: They have suffered thirty thousand casualties a month except for
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: October when it was fifty seven. They're losing one hundred
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: to one hundred and fifty tanks in armored vehicles a
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: month and only able to replace twenty five to thirty
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: out of their defense industrial base in twenty twenty five.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: This is going to come to a head. They have
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: serious personnel problems and I haven't describe it here. And
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you mentioned one of the things that they work very
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: hard to obtain, and that is to get North Korea
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: to come into the war. Now, this is the most
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: significant escalation of the wars as the war started. It
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: hasn't been a long range missile, it hasn't been an aeroplane,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: it hasn't been a tank. It's the fact that another
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: nation state with its troops are on the ground fighting
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: on the side of Russia. And the reality is he
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: needs people and he's going to have to go to
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: a mobilization of some sort in twenty five. He doesn't
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: want to do it because it has used political ramifications.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Not surprising, the Russian support for the war is eroding,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: given it's been protracted and Putin doesn't have much to
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: show for it. What do I think is going to
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: happen here? Andrew is the general. Kellogg is the special
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Envoy for Ukraine and his objective given to him by
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump is to achieve some kind of a ceasefire
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: and a piece agreement. The first place he came was
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to the ISW Institute for the Study of War think tank.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: We took him through about three hours of the state
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: of play in some detail. We discussed some negotiating things,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: and we also made the appointment to him, and this
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: is vital, and he understands it that any cease fire
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: or peace agreement that Putin makes, he looks at it
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: as just a temporary pause so he can rearm, regroup,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: reorganize as much as possible, and a point when it's
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: right for him politically, reattack. His aspirations to take control
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: of Ukraine and topple the government have not changed one ioder. Therefore,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: whatever settlement is made, we must strengthen Ukraine's ability to
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: deter that operation that Putin is going to conduct in
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the future.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: General, I'm so glad that you had a chance to say,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: to write at the very top of Trump's effort here
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: the sort of things you've been telling us. This is
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: good news briefly to the other war. I'm running out
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: of time, but I do want your opinion on this.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: We still do not know if Israel and the Maasterisk
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: group will agree to this cease fire deal. We were
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: told they could even be signed today. Am us releasing
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: another thirty three Jewish hostages, some actually who may be dead,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: in exchange for Israel pulling back in Ghaza and releasing
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Palestine's convicted of murder and terror offences. The deal reporter
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: is a mus releases a prisoner of bachelor's of three
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: in exchange each stone for a hundred or more Palestinians,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I mean terrorists, which seems to me a very dangerous
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: deal for Israel and one that would give Amas some
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: kind of victory. How do you see this war panting out?
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think we are on the verge of
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: some kind of ceasefire and a hostage and prisoner exchange.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've been here before, Andrew you know that
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: over the last year or so, this one feels a
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: little bit different, and it looks like in my Israeli
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: sources are telling me this will likely happen within the
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: next few days. Of course those statements have been made before.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's always tough here because we're releasing absolute terrorists,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: thugs and killers. And that was one of the sticking points.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: There were certain names that Netneo did not want to
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: release whatsoever, and he was put his foot down on
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: that eyes And then the sticking point that has held
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: this deal is what does it look like to the
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: cease fire? Is Holmas wants all the Israelis to leave.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: The Israelis do not want to do that, and that
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: has held up the deal because why Muhammed Sinowa, the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: brother of Sinwar, who used to be the leader who
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Israelis killed, has one of the same in state all
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Israeli Is gone. Israelis are not going to do that.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: So if there's a deal, Sinwar will agree at least
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: to some of what I just mentioned is what the
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Israelis have on the table, and it looks like that
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: is likely going to take place.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: General Keane always fascinated here, someone so well informed and
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: right right, so influential in these negotiations. Thank you so much,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: indeed for your time.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great talking to you, Andrew, and always to
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: your audience. Thank you.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: After the break the Ebenes, the Governor's are envoy on
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: anti Semitism says we need tougher sentences for Jew haters.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: But I don't think she misses one of the real
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: things that needs fixing. Immigration. The Ambidisa government's envoy in
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: anti Semitis are really it a whack today, But she
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: is still not getting to a key problem behind this
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: astonishing jew hatred that's making Australia frankly look so sick.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: She just wants tougher punishments, she says, which is good
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: as far as it goes.
• 32:27
  Speaker 11: I guess infecting our community with hate and attacking places
• 32:33
  Speaker 11: of worship in particular, but other places in order to
• 32:36
  Speaker 11: intimidate the Jewish community, they.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: Should actually result in jail time. We need to make
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: sure as a community that we convey to those bringing
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: prosecutions and those assessing the penalties how serious this is
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: for the future of our country.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: But really, you know, burning, vandalizing synagogues is a raadiochrome,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: threatening Jews, rym and violence, radiochrome, racism, radio crime, you know,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: shaking a finger at judges. I'm not sure how much
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: good that will do. But we actually have a far
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: bigger problem than our laws now. One is the anti
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Israel preaching that has helped you whip up this hate
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: in the first place, including the preaching of the Albanese
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: government and the preaching in mosques. And two related is
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: mass immigration from the Middle East, which means Jews are
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: outvoted by Muslims eight to one in this country and
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: labor is going where the votes are. But wood Siegel,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: the anti anti Jewish, hatred envoy, which he really dared
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: to tell the government to slash that immigration or mind
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: its own language and deport Muslim hate preachers and supports
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: the terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbola. Would you dare
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: say that? And in facts talking about immigrations, should we
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: have a wider inquiry and where we should be taking
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: immigrants from the cost and the benefits? And I asked
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: that after yet another fire at a tobacco shop in Melbourne,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: which you might think, so what, but in fact could
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: be shot number one hundred and thirty one that's been
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: torched in Victoria. It's mainly a war for the legal
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: tobacco trade between Middle Eastern games as well as some
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: barkie games. And this is a war that's now spread
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: around the country, not just one hundred and thirty one
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: in Victoria, thirty attacks or San Queensland fourteen in New
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: South Wales twelve and Adelaide eight in WA plus of
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: course murders and shootings. Now in Europe, these questions about
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: the gains of immigration or the costs are being asked
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: and statistics are being released, unlike here, which might explain
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: the first bit. In Denmark, figures showing non Western immigrants
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: commit one third of the rapes and violent crimes, even
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: though they make up only ten percent or so of
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: the population in Britain since twenty twenty two showing Pakistani's
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: up to four times more likely to be convicted of
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: grooming gang offenses. This is per capita basis rape gangs
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: we're talking about. In Sweden, university studied just this month
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: again confirming immigrants were much much more likely to be
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: convicted of rape. So who are governments letting in? At
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: what costs? Joining me from Amsterdam is Dutch politician Annabelle
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Nanaga and a bill. Great to see you again. Look,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff I'm talking about has been
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: hidden for a long time by authorities have been scared
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: of seeming racist. And there's also being cases and not
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: punishing immigrants that locals would be punished, which is in
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: fact a huge scandal now in Britain with these so
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: called grooming gangs. But you've just had a shocking case
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: of this in the Netherlands.
• 35:48
  Speaker 12: Yes, Andrew, that's correct. There has been an appalling case
• 35:52
  Speaker 12: here in the Netherlands where a homeless woman sitting alone
• 35:55
  Speaker 12: in a park was a gang rape, well tortured, beaten,
• 36:02
  Speaker 12: gang rape multiple times by young immigrants. Now there's a
• 36:06
  Speaker 12: lot to unpack here. I'll try and make it short,
• 36:08
  Speaker 12: because it's quite ridiculous. These thugs were apprehended, there was
• 36:12
  Speaker 12: ample evidence that in fact were responsible for said gang rape,
• 36:16
  Speaker 12: and a judge let them off with fourteen months in
• 36:20
  Speaker 12: juvenile detention. Why because one of the perpetrators alleged that
• 36:26
  Speaker 12: he was conveniently seventeen and a half years old at
• 36:28
  Speaker 12: the time of the crime. His age could not be verified,
• 36:32
  Speaker 12: so he just believed what he had to say about
• 36:35
  Speaker 12: his age, which probably could very well be a lie.
• 36:38
  Speaker 12: So he was tried as a juvenile. In the Netherlands,
• 36:40
  Speaker 12: this gives you the right to have your trial behind
• 36:42
  Speaker 12: closed doors. So the good people of the Netherlands have
• 36:45
  Speaker 12: really no idea where this guy is from other than
• 36:48
  Speaker 12: that he is in the silum Seeker. We have no
• 36:50
  Speaker 12: idea what his background is, who we should look out for. Then,
• 36:56
  Speaker 12: the judges in the Netherlands also have the power the
• 37:00
  Speaker 12: opportunity to try young people as adults if the crime
• 37:04
  Speaker 12: is serious. I'm not really sure how much more serious
• 37:07
  Speaker 12: it has to get than young raping a defenseless woman
• 37:11
  Speaker 12: in the park at night, and yet to judge chose
• 37:14
  Speaker 12: to try them as minus sentence very low. And also
• 37:19
  Speaker 12: he kept or she in in in account that this
• 37:23
  Speaker 12: person was an unaccompanied minor in the Netherlands that still
• 37:29
  Speaker 12: had to have a future here, that needed to work
• 37:32
  Speaker 12: on his education. So yeah, there's this really is a
• 37:37
  Speaker 12: travesty of justice.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: If you ask me, why should a gang rapists have
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: a future in the Netherlands. I don't understand that this
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: is related exactly.
• 37:46
  Speaker 12: So why should into account that he has to go
• 37:49
  Speaker 12: through his citizenship application? I mean, why should she punish
• 37:54
  Speaker 12: a person milder in order for him to give him
• 37:58
  Speaker 12: a chance to stay here in the Netherlands. And there
• 38:01
  Speaker 12: is a big shock wave of going on.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Now here, insane, and this sort of thing has been
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: replicated around Europe. You've also you say it's an asylum seeker.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: You've also just had a report come in on the
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: cost benefit of immigrants that the Netherlands lets in. It
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: found the economic migrants, yes, they do add to the economy,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: not by much, but they do add. But the asylum
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: seekers in the Netherlands are expected to cost the country,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: cost the state more than six hundred thousand dollars each
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: over their lifetimes. That kind of cost seems to be unsustainable.
• 38:41
  Speaker 12: Well, let me tell you Andrew, it's even more. There
• 38:43
  Speaker 12: is a study done by Professor Johnswrom, the Big Mathematician
• 38:47
  Speaker 12: is also advisor to our government. He has done a
• 38:50
  Speaker 12: study among asylum seekers and on average, so that includes
• 38:53
  Speaker 12: those that do a fund for themselves, that do take
• 38:57
  Speaker 12: care of themselves, but on average it's probably even more.
• 39:00
  Speaker 12: It's eight hundred thousand euros over the lifespan that an
• 39:03
  Speaker 12: ascient costs the Dutch society that includes housing, education, healthcare benefits,
• 39:09
  Speaker 12: et cetera. Eight hundred thousand euros is about one point
• 39:12
  Speaker 12: three million Australians all us. Those are the figures we
• 39:15
  Speaker 12: look at. It's completely unsustainable and that's just a financial cost,
• 39:20
  Speaker 12: you know. There's also of course socially culturally, crime rates,
• 39:25
  Speaker 12: et cetera. So the whole model of mass immigration via
• 39:30
  Speaker 12: asylum FIA, our asylum system is unsustainable and people are
• 39:34
  Speaker 12: getting really fed up, especially when judges make such rulings
• 39:39
  Speaker 12: against people that make the Netherlands unsafe. There are danger
• 39:43
  Speaker 12: to women. Yeah, a limit has been reached and the
• 39:48
  Speaker 12: election responses to show that too.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Well, Annabel and Anita, what you've been saying is, of
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: course the kind of discussion that is very difficult to
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: have about Australia's immigration effect. You'd be hard put to
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: find some of the figures in, but you know it
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: helps us to explain why immigration has finally become a
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: huge issue throughout Europe, France, Italy, the Netherlands, Scandinavia, Germany
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: and so much else. Thank you so much, indeed for
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: your time after the break more labor abuse of Peter
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Dutton's appearance, I just wondered which playground some of these
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: labor types came from. Well, the Prime Minister today associated
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: himself with this ceasefire that we're told Israel Hamas will
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: agree to in days or even hours after fourteen months
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: of war, fourteen months of our masks holding Jewish hostages.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Are you hopeful of ceasefire and gaza is imminent?
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: We have been calling for some time for hottages to
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: be released.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Joining me A Daniel Wild, Deputy Executive Director of Issue
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: of Public Affairs, and Jemmy Tongyini, founder of GT Communications
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: and the most excellent columns with the Australian newspaper. Jimmy,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: what really gets me with this statement from Anthony Albinezi today,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I mean as find as it was, I guess, But really,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: if Israel had listened to him and stop fighting a
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Muss a year ago, a mus would still be in
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: charge of Gaza, Israel would be humiliated, in a huge
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: danger of yet more attacks, and a mass would be
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: giving up probably nothing little in hostages.
• 41:25
  Speaker 13: Well, what people here in Australia don't realize, Andrew, is
• 41:28
  Speaker 13: that Hamas at the moment is still still firing rockets
• 41:32
  Speaker 13: from the south into Israel, is still vowing to wipe
• 41:37
  Speaker 13: out the Jewish people.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: This is not a game.
• 41:40
  Speaker 13: This is not something that the ALP gets to impose
• 41:43
  Speaker 13: its soft Trotskyism on a funk, the only functioning democracy
• 41:49
  Speaker 13: in the region. From the other side of the world.
• 41:51
  Speaker 13: We're safe and irrelevant in many ways on the other
• 41:54
  Speaker 13: side of the world, Andrew, But you're quite right. If
• 41:57
  Speaker 13: the Nettaen Yahoo government had have listened to many of
• 42:00
  Speaker 13: the useful idiots in the West of which unfortunately our
• 42:03
  Speaker 13: government is one, they wouldn't have gone into rougher, They
• 42:06
  Speaker 13: wouldn't have rescued the hostages.
• 42:08
  Speaker 12: They had, they.
• 42:09
  Speaker 13: Wouldn't be in the upper hand that they are now.
• 42:11
  Speaker 13: The reason that these hostages have been left to language languish.
• 42:15
  Speaker 13: Rather is that the international community as a whole simply
• 42:19
  Speaker 13: didn't care enough about them to put pressure on Turkey,
• 42:22
  Speaker 13: in pressure on Qatar, and pressure on all of the
• 42:24
  Speaker 13: other proxies that could have bought a different outcome sooner.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: But to Daniel, I'd like to switch topic. I know
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: you've probably got some saying that, but you have created
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: probably the biggest news story this week, this debate of
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Australia Day. It started with a survey from your Institute
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: of Public Affair showing a big increase in support for
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: the day staying on January twenty sixth, peed it up
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: and ran with it. But the prominence of Dodge giving
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: straight answers if he about whether he would back a
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: demand that changes the regulation forcing councils to hold austraight
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: a ceremonies on January twenty sixth. Now there are liberals,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: as you know, saying culturals that this are a distraction
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: and they never fight them. Is this debate, from what
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: you've seen, really a distraction.
• 43:15
  Speaker 14: Well, it's far from a distraction. It's one of the
• 43:17
  Speaker 14: central issues that Australians care about, Andrew, and the reason
• 43:20
  Speaker 14: why the coalitions ahead on the two party preferred basis
• 43:23
  Speaker 14: is because Peter Dutton has been intervening in the culture
• 43:25
  Speaker 14: debates and it's popular. You know, when you fight and
• 43:28
  Speaker 14: stand up for our values, mainstream Australians will back you.
• 43:31
  Speaker 14: We saw that with the Voice to Parliament, we saw
• 43:33
  Speaker 14: it with Peter Dutton taking a cudgel to big business,
• 43:36
  Speaker 14: and we've seen it with with Australia Day. And as
• 43:38
  Speaker 14: far as I'm concerned, the debate about Australia Day is
• 43:40
  Speaker 14: now over. It's on the twenty sixth of January, and
• 43:43
  Speaker 14: that's where it's going to stay. You know, this election
• 43:46
  Speaker 14: Andrew coming up is going to be won or lost
• 43:49
  Speaker 14: on culture, not on economics. I could not name one
• 43:52
  Speaker 14: single coalition economic policy, but I can tell you a
• 43:55
  Speaker 14: range of cultural policies. Keep Australia Day on the twenty
• 43:58
  Speaker 14: six force the councils to have have ceremonies, stand in
• 44:01
  Speaker 14: front of one flag, cut migration, get rid of indoctrination,
• 44:04
  Speaker 14: out of education. These are all values based cultural arguments
• 44:09
  Speaker 14: and this is how the Coalition is winning over out
• 44:10
  Speaker 14: of suburban labor voters. It's not going to be the
• 44:12
  Speaker 14: till voters that decide the election, but out of suburban
• 44:16
  Speaker 14: no voting labor voters will decide the outcome of the
• 44:19
  Speaker 14: twenty twenty five election, and it's going to be on culture.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Jimmy, I do not get why so many liberal MPs
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: have been browbeaten or whatever into thinking that a debate
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: over national unity, national symbols, pride in country, creating a
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: people out of a collection of tribes is somehow a peripheral, boring,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: marginal distraction that they shouldn't get involved in. How on
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: earth could that happen?
• 44:47
  Speaker 13: Well, I don't know, is the short answer. But I
• 44:49
  Speaker 13: just want to take thirty seconds of a step back
• 44:51
  Speaker 13: and say that I respectfully disagree with Dan because I
• 44:54
  Speaker 13: think it is always the economy stupid. It just always is.
• 44:57
  Speaker 12: I don't know that.
• 44:58
  Speaker 13: People would be so interesting it in culture as a
• 45:01
  Speaker 13: whole if they were, you know, sitting pretty without record inflation,
• 45:05
  Speaker 13: interest rates and cost of services and cost of living
• 45:09
  Speaker 13: through the room. I think that it's one hundred percent
• 45:11
  Speaker 13: at the center of the Albanese government's pain. Absolutely, culture
• 45:15
  Speaker 13: plays a role. I believe that I think people very
• 45:18
  Speaker 13: much want to guard our way of life, and it's
• 45:21
  Speaker 13: about that. I think that's probably a better way of
• 45:23
  Speaker 13: talking about it. I think there are some things that
• 45:26
  Speaker 13: can you know, a person can be, for example, economically
• 45:29
  Speaker 13: conservative but socially a little bit more relaxed about things.
• 45:32
  Speaker 13: And I think personally from observation and full disclosure, I'm
• 45:35
  Speaker 13: not a member of the Liberal Party. I'm not a
• 45:36
  Speaker 13: member of any political party. I'm obviously a conservative voter.
• 45:39
  Speaker 13: But some conservatives get so bent out of shape when
• 45:42
  Speaker 13: someone like me, for example, goes, well, I'm fiscally very conservative,
• 45:45
  Speaker 13: but over here I don't care so much about that issue,
• 45:47
  Speaker 13: whatever that issue may be. It's like, you know, it
• 45:51
  Speaker 13: has to be a broad church in the simplest, simplest
• 45:55
  Speaker 13: meaning of that phrase. And I personally think that it
• 45:59
  Speaker 13: is always the economy. It is always the economy.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's the economy, but it's not only
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the economy, and so the economy is sometimes downwind of culture. Daniel,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I'll give you two examples. The global warming thing we've
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: start off really is not really about science, is more
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: of religion, and that's had profound economic effects, very bad ones.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: And also this idea of open society, open borders, let's
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: not be racist, has allowed a mass immigration here that's
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: overwhelmed our economy. In my view, and created a housing crisis.
• 46:40
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I think that's a pretty fair assessment. I mean,
• 46:42
  Speaker 14: certainly when we look at migration, and your previous guests
• 46:44
  Speaker 14: was talking about the issues in the Netherlands and the
• 46:47
  Speaker 14: economic cost and you can see it here in Australia
• 46:50
  Speaker 14: where we've had seven consecutive quarters of negative per capita growth,
• 46:54
  Speaker 14: which is the biggest decline or the longest declient since
• 46:56
  Speaker 14: digitized records began in the early nineteen seventies. And that's
• 46:59
  Speaker 14: because we've had a mass migration program without a plan,
• 47:02
  Speaker 14: without the consent of the community, and without it being
• 47:05
  Speaker 14: targeted towards areas of economic need. So mass migration makes
• 47:09
  Speaker 14: Australia poorer. That's certainly what's happened now. Big business and
• 47:12
  Speaker 14: the universities and government love it because you know, it
• 47:15
  Speaker 14: makes GDP bigger, so it makes them sound like they're
• 47:18
  Speaker 14: doing a good job of the economy. But as I say,
• 47:20
  Speaker 14: on a per capita basis, our living standards are going backwards.
• 47:23
  Speaker 14: And if you want to ease cost of living, the
• 47:25
  Speaker 14: number one thing to do is to fairly dramatically cut immigration.
• 47:29
  Speaker 14: That will make a difference straight away.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Jimma, I've got to ask what's wrong with some labor
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: people and their abuse of Peeda Dutton. I mean environment
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: missed tenure plypics because I already had to apologize for
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: calling Voldemort, making fun of his skin condition, the loss
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: of hair, you know, no eyebrows and all that, and
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: then Albani is he had to just own an attack
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: on Dutton's wife by Victoria Victorian labor officials and now
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Labour's candidate for Dixon the Peeda Uton's seat, Ali France
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: sent out an email the invitation to support us for
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: a pat don't know fundraiser yet again mocking Dutton's appearance.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Is this childish or is it good politics?
• 48:06
  Speaker 13: It's puerile, I mean, it's puerile, university grade politics. And
• 48:09
  Speaker 13: maybe that's what Australian labor or Australian labor has to offer.
• 48:13
  Speaker 13: It certainly would seem that way. I mean, the obvious
• 48:16
  Speaker 13: hypocrisy of this mob that talks about, you know, a
• 48:18
  Speaker 13: better kind of politics. We're just going to cuddle everyone
• 48:21
  Speaker 13: and everyone's okay, and I'm okay, and it's total bs.
• 48:25
  Speaker 13: You know, the proof is in their behavior and the
• 48:27
  Speaker 13: examples that you've just cited are horrible examples at.
• 48:30
  Speaker 12: The base level.
• 48:31
  Speaker 13: It's just a really crap. It's just a really you know,
• 48:34
  Speaker 13: you're a really crappy human if you think that that's
• 48:37
  Speaker 13: a fun way to behave.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I've got to go. It is so sad. Gem and
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: toon Nini Daniel Welde, thank you both. That's it for me,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Sherry Marxon next, good night.