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Clarkson and Quinnipiac go scoreless, plus a look back at the Rivalry Series · The PodKaz: USCHO Women's Hockey

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  Speaker 1: Uscho dot com. Hi, and welcome to the podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Todd Moluski here with Nicole Hosey from us cho dot
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  Speaker 1: com to talk about all things women's hockey. This week,
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  Speaker 1: we gotten a little bitter for the Bridalry series to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. We've got some college games to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a major game show announcement to talk about
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  Speaker 1: with Nicole. We'll get to that. And if that's not
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  Speaker 1: a teaser, I don't know what is. But Nicole, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's start with some of the games from last week.
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  Speaker 1: And one that I know we'd highlighted in last week's show,
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  Speaker 1: Number seven Quidipac and number eleven Clarkson turns out to
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  Speaker 1: be a zero zero tie. On Saturday. Holly Gruber raised
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  Speaker 1: thirty six hites for Clarkson and Felicia Fray thirty two
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  Speaker 1: says for Quidipiac. Clarkson wins the shootout one nothing but so,
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  Speaker 1: what right? What do we take off of that? I
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't really know what the what the lake
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  Speaker 1: of zero zero tie in a game that we're expecting
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  Speaker 1: to be I mean expecting me a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: than that. But hooray for the defenses.
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  Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, it's hilarious. You know, sometimes we lament
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  Speaker 2: like a split ended up telling us nothing but goodness,
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  Speaker 2: is there anything that gives us less information than of
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  Speaker 2: a zero zero tie?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what to make of it either.
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  Speaker 2: I thought both teams have been so good at scoring.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, hurry for the uh particularly the Clerkson
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  Speaker 2: defense right like kil and la Marsh has been basically
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  Speaker 2: unstoppable from everybody, so you know, that's a huge win
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  Speaker 2: for them. But yeah, how odd I mean, goodness, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like we don't get a lot of zero zero
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  Speaker 2: times ever, and so yeah, interesting. I mean, those two
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  Speaker 2: teams playing each other is a bit of a chess
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  Speaker 2: match that usually does again not under a zero zero tie,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, kind of a strange. I mean, I can't
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  Speaker 2: imagine being a fan there in that game, like you're literally,
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  Speaker 2: you know, spectating a chess match. So yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: there probably was a lot of desire to not make
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  Speaker 2: a mistake, to especially you know, as time goes out
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  Speaker 2: in the game and it's still zero zero ties, so
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  Speaker 2: probably just a little bit more careful, a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more precious. And I guess I don't know that I
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  Speaker 2: blame them in November, like nobody wants to.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I think as that game goes along, you're probably thinking,
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  Speaker 2: all right, I'm happy with my point and a half, easy,
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  Speaker 2: easy scoring and and you know, not giving up the advantage.
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  Speaker 2: Quinnipiac seems to be the team to beat and have
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  Speaker 2: the advantage sort of amongst the teams. Maybe you know
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  Speaker 2: them in Cornell and so yeah, it makes me wonder
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  Speaker 2: if there was just like a mindset shift of like,
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  Speaker 2: we're okay with this, which I think, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: don't I don't love, and I bet coaches probably don't love.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. It's a whole lot of
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  Speaker 2: way of saying, who knows what to take away from that?
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  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's it's helpful to rewind a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of Friday with both of those teams too. Quinnipiac
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  Speaker 1: had to get a overtime win over Saint Lawrence three
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  Speaker 1: to two. Kiln Marsh LaMarsh, who would mentioned a minute ago,
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  Speaker 1: scored two of the goals. Tesla Hulk got the overtime goal.
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  Speaker 1: LaMarsh up to twenty goals of fifteen games, which is
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  Speaker 1: a pretty remarkable number for the first half of the season.
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  Speaker 1: And then on the Clarkson side, Clukson also didn't score
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  Speaker 1: on Friday, lost in overtime to Princeton on a Riley
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  Speaker 1: Sorocan goal. So for both of those teams, I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're coming in going, you know, some opposite
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  Speaker 1: directions there. For the Friday, I think Quinnipiac has a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more to feel good about. How the weekend obviously,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, that's probably captain obvious they
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  Speaker 1: were talking about Clark's a weekend when they didn't score
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  Speaker 1: a goal, not having a lot to love there. But
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  Speaker 1: it does feel to me too that we're we're looking
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  Speaker 1: for bigger things out of a still an early part
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  Speaker 1: of the season, when these teams are fully developed. So
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  Speaker 1: I would I would be a little bit more maybe
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  Speaker 1: worried about Clark said if this happened in the second half,
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  Speaker 1: But I still think there's there's a lot of time there,
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of skill and experience there too to
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  Speaker 1: make something happened uh down down the rest of the season. Then, man,
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  Speaker 1: let's I just came out of them thinking zero zero, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's that just felt but not what I would have
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  Speaker 1: expected at all out of that game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I think to so strange just to almost
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  Speaker 2: leave me without anything to say, like, I have no
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  Speaker 2: idea what to make of it. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's probably the asterisk on it for me will be
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  Speaker 2: to pay attention to how Clarkson does in the next
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  Speaker 2: week or two in terms of scoring like that. It's
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  Speaker 2: a like, okay, it's not a problem till it's a problem, right,
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  Speaker 2: you know, was it an aberration or is it telling
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  Speaker 2: us more about you know, who they are as a
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  Speaker 2: team and what they might be struggling with and so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I, like I said, I think their defense absolutely
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  Speaker 2: has to take that as a win, huge weekend for
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  Speaker 2: them to kind of slow down the ball rolling very
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  Speaker 2: quickly down the hill. That is the Bobcats right now
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  Speaker 2: on offense. And so there is that, But yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: think you have to you gotta score goals, right, like
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  Speaker 2: all this adage in the book. So I think as
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  Speaker 2: a coaching staff, they probably are looking at that and
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  Speaker 2: those are the types of things that they'll be working
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  Speaker 2: on and whether it's you know, finding lianes and stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that, but that I think has to be sort
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  Speaker 2: of the lasting thing is you know, you gotta score
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  Speaker 2: goals and if that's not happening sort of in repetition,
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  Speaker 2: then then there's something wrong and something you got to
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  Speaker 2: work on. So yeah, put a bookmark on that, come
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  Speaker 2: back to it in a week or two and we'll
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  Speaker 2: see what happens. But yeah, I think surprising too. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Saint Lawrence hasn't had the start of the season they
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  Speaker 2: would have wanted, so a little surprising to me that
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  Speaker 2: they took Quinnipiac to.
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  Speaker 1: Overtime.
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  Speaker 2: Who was Quinnipiac? Great?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Ye, well they all those overtime games, and then you know,
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  Speaker 2: you briefly mentioned good for Princeton. That was Riley Surrikins's
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  Speaker 2: first career goal, so good for her. Good time to
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  Speaker 2: get it. Not sure you'd ever forget that anyway, but
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  Speaker 2: especially in that particular instance. So but yeah, so surprising
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  Speaker 2: that one O and O games for Clerkson this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's spin around the country. They took a
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  Speaker 1: look at what else we took out of last weekend.
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  Speaker 1: I want to start with new Ha asually say an
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  Speaker 1: Selm's swooping post for two form zero to move seven
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  Speaker 1: points ahead of stone Hill after stone Hills split with assumption.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of separation starting. I think
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  Speaker 1: all those teams of eight games played, now you're getting
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  Speaker 1: into you know, okay, sample size of games in conference play,
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  Speaker 1: and so maybe we're we're seeing st Ansel kind of
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  Speaker 1: take that that first place, that's starting to run with
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  Speaker 1: it a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know the other thing, and that was
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  Speaker 2: way to get that split assumption. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they've had a couple of results that like maybe we're surprising,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, kind of like what I just said,
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  Speaker 2: O cursy, like one or two times is an aberration,
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  Speaker 2: a few times is a trend. And they continue to
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  Speaker 2: win games and and beat teens that like on paper
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  Speaker 2: or like per preseason calculations, they weren't necessarily gonna win.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think they're continuing to put together a
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  Speaker 2: really good season. And I think, uh, that stuff like
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  Speaker 2: that is really gonna be hard on teams like stone Hill, who,
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  Speaker 2: as Saint Anthelm is, is winning those games, like stone
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  Speaker 2: Hill's giving up more point then maybe they would have
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  Speaker 2: thought in some of those series too. So they're they're
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  Speaker 2: really going to have to fight that much harder and
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  Speaker 2: maybe in some tougher matchups that to pull those points back.
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  Speaker 2: But it's if sad Anselm was still is going to
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  Speaker 2: continue to take you know, six points a weekend, that's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be really hard. You know, it's gonna be really
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  Speaker 2: hard to catch them. And seven points isn't a huge gap,
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  Speaker 2: but it's kind of big November, and like, if they
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  Speaker 2: just keep you know, sort of at five hundred, they're
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  Speaker 2: putting theirselves in a really great position.
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  Speaker 1: Clay a non conference upset we saw last weekend RIT
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  Speaker 1: with a three nothing or sorry, three to one road
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  Speaker 1: win against number thirteen Colgate on Saturday. They're so interesting.
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  Speaker 1: We both caught this in the box score. So interesting
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  Speaker 1: parts of that box score RIT twenty one blocks of
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  Speaker 1: seventy three attempts by Colgate Coldgate zero blocks, which is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in a close game, what you were saying
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  Speaker 1: before we started recording, doesn't a puck just hit someone
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  Speaker 1: shin pad count as a block. It's a it's an
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  Speaker 1: odd number if that was actually an act your account
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  Speaker 1: of the number of shot blocks there. But a big
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  Speaker 1: win for RT on the road. There are now seven
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  Speaker 1: to seven overall. Is the team that hasn't had a
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  Speaker 1: winning season since twenty thirteen, fourteen, So I know that's
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of the you know, the bar that that
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  Speaker 1: you look to to get to when you when it's
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  Speaker 1: been such a long time, just get to that point
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  Speaker 1: and see if you can get a winging record. They're
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  Speaker 1: they're at five hundred on the coldiate, they've lost four
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  Speaker 1: of the last seven. They're five six and one. We've
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  Speaker 1: talked before this is you know, there's some some tough
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  Speaker 1: times there, but maybe a little bit bit of a
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  Speaker 1: concern there. And you know on the RT side, a
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  Speaker 1: big boost out thin GAT non conference play.
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  Speaker 2: And the second ranked win for RT. The y'all so
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  Speaker 2: beat Saint Lawrence earlier in this season. So as you said,
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  Speaker 2: like you look for those little milestones and those things
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  Speaker 2: that you keep getting right. And yeah, as seven wins
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  Speaker 2: for them in November is a huge step. That's like
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  Speaker 2: that's such a great place for them to be and
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  Speaker 2: they have to have so much confidence. And I mean
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  Speaker 2: the thing about the Colgate and the no blocks, it's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: they were at home, so we don't think it was
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  Speaker 2: a scorekeeper error thing, right, like you you went and checked,
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  Speaker 2: you know a couple other things. I Mean, the concerning
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  Speaker 2: thing for me is what Colgate is struggling with is
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  Speaker 2: defense and you are losing a game and you don't
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  Speaker 2: have any blocks, and I am just I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, like that speaks for itself. There's nothing else
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  Speaker 2: to say there, So it's yeah, it's definitely concerning. It's
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  Speaker 2: definitely weird. I have a lot of questions. Maybe there
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  Speaker 2: is an explanation, Like it is so weird it is
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  Speaker 2: for me to think it wasn't possible. But yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: just a it's not a great situation to be in.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if this is a thing we are.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's just so many there's so many possible explanations.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean Colgate was a really great offensive team
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  Speaker 2: for so long and had a really strong goalie, and like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they are they out of practice playing straw defense,
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  Speaker 2: Like that wasn't a thing they were focusing on. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, man, it's a I always feel so like
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  Speaker 2: sort of awkward critiquing, especially when we have so much
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  Speaker 2: so little information and we're just I'll watch it on
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  Speaker 2: a stream from far far away. But man, did that
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  Speaker 2: you know? I think there was another game I said this,
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  Speaker 2: weeven had no blocks, but like the opposing team had
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  Speaker 2: nine shots, So like Okay, you know, like this isn't like,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't a thing where it was like, oh, they
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  Speaker 2: just didn't put the puck on it and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Like everything, I kind of double checked all of the
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  Speaker 2: things that would like lead to this, and it just
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  Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be the situation. And so yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: guess if anybody's got the insight, we'd love to hear it.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, definitely, it's definitely going to continue to be
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  Speaker 2: an uphill climb for Colgate. I mean, they're at the
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  Speaker 2: point where they're almost out of the rankings, and they're
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  Speaker 2: probably mostly there because of the residuals of being there
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  Speaker 2: from the beginning of the year and not really having
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  Speaker 2: anybody to move up. And like, I just at this point,
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  Speaker 2: there isn't anything about their season that isn't disappointing for them.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think this is not what they've come to expect.
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  Speaker 2: It's not what they've created for themselves. And I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the good part is that it's November and they've got
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  Speaker 2: lots of time to make pushes and try and figure
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  Speaker 2: some stuff out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm leaving space for in my own mind the possibility
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  Speaker 1: that that was just a box score glitch altogether, either
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  Speaker 1: on our end or on the Genius side. The Genius
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  Speaker 1: is the company that runs the live stats for sure input,
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  Speaker 1: and so something could have happened there.
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  Speaker 2: I know part of me is like, do we not
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  Speaker 2: even bring it up? And part of me is like,
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  Speaker 2: oh no, you guys, so yeah, I agree. I think
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  Speaker 2: when I wrote about it at Victory Press, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I am willing to accept that this might like this
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  Speaker 2: might be not actually true. However, I still pickly need
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  Speaker 2: to bring it up.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, over in wha less busy skied Sedule last week
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  Speaker 1: because of the rivalry series and in the November international break.
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  Speaker 1: But BMITCHI s got a win over Saint Thomas over
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  Speaker 1: fourteen Saint Thomas last Saturday, two to one, Caitlyn Gross
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  Speaker 1: with twenty seven Sayers. And that's a BAMIGI team that's
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  Speaker 1: that struggle to get something going, get positive feelings going
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  Speaker 1: in it. There's a win against the ranked team that
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  Speaker 1: is a you know, okay, first half of your season
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  Speaker 1: may not be going the way you like, but you've
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  Speaker 1: got something there and there's a a little bit to
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  Speaker 1: say if we can do that against the ranked team,
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  Speaker 1: we can do that the next time. We play a
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  Speaker 1: ranked team and wycha that's pretty much every weekend, every week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And I think you know on the
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  Speaker 2: opposite side that is in no offense BMIDGI. But like
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  Speaker 2: Saint Thomas, that's a that's a bad loss. Like you
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  Speaker 2: are a team that has shown you're taking a step forward,
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  Speaker 2: you're trying, you know, you've gotten ranked all but sort
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  Speaker 2: of thing, those are games you have to win, you
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  Speaker 2: just full stop. It's too competitive. The WHA is competitive.
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  Speaker 2: I know that, like because of the top of the WHA,
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  Speaker 2: they're not necessarily fighting for that spot, but maybe fighting
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  Speaker 2: for other things. But that's just a bad loss. It's
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  Speaker 2: one that you can't have. We talked about not being
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  Speaker 2: not being able to drop points in several other conferences
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  Speaker 2: as well, and yeah, that was just it was one
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  Speaker 2: of those where I think we've been so high on
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  Speaker 2: Saint Thomas and what they've been able to do, and
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  Speaker 2: I think it's one where you're like, you remember that
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  Speaker 2: this that it's a team that's new to this right
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  Speaker 2: and they're still they're still doing it. Is trying to
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  Speaker 2: figure out what it means to be a rap team
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  Speaker 2: and be sort of have a target on your back
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  Speaker 2: and be not the underdog, and I think that this
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  Speaker 2: is one of those growing pains that comes with that.
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  Speaker 1: But Minjie stay out of last place in the w
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  Speaker 1: CJ with that win too, And did not occur to
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  Speaker 1: me that as we're not looking at the WATU Sundays,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's got the same eight games played. Number ten in
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  Speaker 1: the country, Saint claud State is the last place team.
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  Speaker 2: If you like that gives that gives power to what
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  Speaker 2: I've said about how hard it is to rank teams.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, terribly hard right now, because you I think
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  Speaker 1: everyone's going on a say claud State is like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well we've seen this team as being a mid pack
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  Speaker 1: top fifteen team for a few years now. Well, and
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  Speaker 1: if you're going to take them out, you have to
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  Speaker 1: play some with some one in the top fifteen. And there's
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  Speaker 1: not a ton of teams that are just jumping to
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  Speaker 1: the forefront there.
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  Speaker 2: No. And I think they were ranked on the power
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  Speaker 2: of how they were playing against top those top four
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  Speaker 2: or five teams in the country, right But then you
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  Speaker 2: that also means that they have to take the hit
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  Speaker 2: when they're when they're not winning games they should be winning.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a if you're you know, nobody you
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  Speaker 2: there aren't fifteen teams that have, you know, great winning
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  Speaker 2: records that you want to just like put one to fifteen, like,
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  Speaker 2: it's just not there's too much parody right now. And
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  Speaker 2: so when that's the case, then you're looking at how
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  Speaker 2: teams are performing against other high ranked teams and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but the Poles, Poles are a mess. Friends, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what to tell you. Cannot wait till the MP
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  Speaker 2: until we have enough games at the NP, I can
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  Speaker 2: just tell me what to do.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're getting closer now. Yeah, it's uh, it's
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  Speaker 1: to the point where everyone you know, EC A, C,
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  Speaker 1: the Ivy League teams have all played enough games. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're enough playing enough different teams. So it's not
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  Speaker 1: either you're through one weekend. You you've got two wins
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  Speaker 1: and they both has the same team and we're so
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  Speaker 1: if I think, if you want to start looking go
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  Speaker 1: for it. I don't. I don't have this from mathematical geniuses,
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  Speaker 1: but I think they would probably tell me that at
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  Speaker 1: this point that it's it's good to take a peek at.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe don't don't spend too much time there, but.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, yeah I will not hang my whole,
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  Speaker 2: my full voting on that. But yeah, it's just it's
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  Speaker 2: at the point where I'm like, every week, you're just
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: like I, I spend more time on it than like
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I really I feel should be spent on some of
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: that stuff, like I do not, but I don't like
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: not to you flip, but I just like, I don't
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: think you should be agonizing over like seven, eight to
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: nine as much as I have been.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: No, but I agree I do when I vote, I
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: do in the same thing. It's there's there's too much
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: into it, But okay. Hockeys. A couple of results I
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: thought were interesting, A couple splits. Boston College and number
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: eight Yukon got splits, with each winning on the other
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: team's hoys. Yukon won three to one on Friday at
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: BC t chair made thirty one saves and that one
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: say hottles, I hope I'm saying that right, hot less hottles.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I apologize for either one that I wrote broke a
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: one one tie with three and a half minutes left,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: and that one. BC came back Saturday with a two
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: to one win with Eva Thomas breaking a one to
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: one tie with a redirection in front of it with
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: just two seconds left. That was a a play a
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: shot through the point that just looked like you had
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the right amount of traffic in front and and Thomas
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: got got a stick on it, and there is a
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: winning goal in the last couple of seconds.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: So it's it's like the type of thing you should
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: show your team when you're saying be a Bucks today.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, I mean, with that amount of time left,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: what's what's what's it gonna hurt? Man? So BC getting
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: an important result there, we'd we'd seen them being near
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the at the top at and then near the top
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: of hockey standing for a while. You know, if if
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: they're going to keep staying up there, they've got a
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: few more games played than than the other teams around them.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: They need to add some wins. And yeah, it's it's
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the Northeastern's tharting to uh starting to pull away from
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: a winning percentage or a point percentage perspective. Fifteen points
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: for five games, so that's one hundred percent. Uh, They're
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: they're doing pretty well there. If anyone one is going
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: to stay up with them, they are going to to
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: one Eastern, but then also stay up with these other
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: games like be it pace, Yeah, you can, would have
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: would have loved to have that those three points out
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: of that game on set.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I feel like a split is probably a pretty good
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: result for both those two teams though, Like I think
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: this is what we talk about when it's like not
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: settling for a tie and and and you know, really
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: pushing and getting that extra point that less than three
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: seconds left and you know, put the puck to net
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: and see what happens. And I think that getting that
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: win was really important for DC. They are a team
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: that like doesn't always respond when things like start to
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: go poorly, Like if they have a poor game, I
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: always want them to go out that next game and
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: like really show that fire, and I feel like they
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: don't always do that. And so this was just like
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: a little bit of that fight that I like to
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: see from teams when things. You know, you get a loss,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: a tight loss, right like that one ended up in
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: three to one, but it was within the last couple
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: of minutes and you go out and you on their
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: ice and win those points back. So you know, in
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the scheme of things against Northeastern, not ideal situation for
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: either of them, But I thought it showed a lot
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: of fight from BC side and that bodes well for
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the rest of the season for them.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Definitely, Northeastern, as I mentioned, five and zeroe Conference, after
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: stooping for a month, three to nothing, three to two
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: at Lisa Johnson with twenty save for the shutout on Friday,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: and then Jules Countstantinople power play goal in the second
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: period gives the Huskies a three to lead and that's
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: the lead they carried for the rest of the wade.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: This is the Northeastern team. I think we we didn't know, right,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I mean over the last few years, maybe not last year,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: but that the season's previous. Got it goalie, that's gonna
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: win you a lot of games and have an opportunistic offense,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and that's that's that's that's a pretty good combination.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, if you get their box scores,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: it's not like they're just going out and dominating. Like
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: there's been a couple back and forth games and then
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: when it comes down to it, they pull away at
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: the end, and that is just such a huge advantage.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: And the ability to do that and to sort of
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: buckle down and put a game out of reach has
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: been something they've been able to do for the last
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: couple of years, but something we didn't see in the
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: first you know, six weeks or whatever whatever from them.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I thought that was like exactly like what
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: you said. We mean, we've kind of talked about like
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: who's this Northeastern team in a few episodes, and it
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: was like they came out this weekend and showed exactly,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: you know, sort of who they are and what they
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: can do. You know, a couple of younger players on
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: that team and things like that. So maybe it just
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: took a little while for them to settle and find
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: their their rhythm again, you know, never never hanging our
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: hats on what happens in any two games, right, So
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: we'll see what happens in the next couple of weeks.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: But that was the sort of flash of fight and
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: talent and scoring and like I said, just that for them,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: they're a team that consistently like they'll be in a
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: close game. You'll look up and be like, oh, that's
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: a tie game. I didn't expect that to be tied,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: And the next time you look up, they're off by
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: like three, and it feels like no time has passed.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: And so that to me is the standout bit of
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: what happened this weekend for them.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: We need to take a break here soon. Anything last
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I need the last thoughts. We want to get in
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: about last week before we you know, take a break
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: and then come back and talk about the Riveler series.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: We've covered at all, well not at all, but you
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: can come. You can see everything either Nicole's weekend roundups
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: on usa joe dot com, victor press dot com or
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: check out the box scores on USA joe dot com,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: so all sorts of information there. When we come back,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: as I mentioned, we will talk Rivalry here is, we
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: will talk what's coming up this weekend, and we will
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: talk about that mystery game show announcement.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Stay with us on the podcast. Welcome back to the podcast.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Todd Nicole here with you to talk about.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: The Rivalry series. Games that we saw last week. A
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: couple of wins for the US over Canada four to
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: one in Cleveland on Thursday, six to one in Buffalo
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: on Saturday. Coupled hat tricks in the Thursday game with
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Abby Murphy from Minnesota scoring three and then Taylor I
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: see the former Gophers scoring one, and then on Saturday
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: it was the Wisconsin continues turned to get on the
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: board as Hillary Knight, the former Badger with a hat
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: trick and current Wisconsin defender which is Stold. Odd to
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: say Leyla Edwards with a goal and two assists. This
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: is you were mentioning before. Not unusual for us to
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: see the US get out to a hot start in
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: a rivalry series. Is there anything that you I guess,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: you know, big picture whise a lot of these couple
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of games with.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: It's hard to I think on the surface, I was
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: really excited about how well Team USA looked and how
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: well they were moving the puck and just really sharp
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: and all of those sorts of things. But we have
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: seen that in pretty much all of the best rivalry
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: series where they came out in those early games and
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: looked great and then you know, get River swept on
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: the other side by Canada. So definitely not putting too
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: much into it. I thought it was good to see
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: players like Heizy and Night looking so sharp because that
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: means it wasn't just the collegians that were sort of
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: up to speed. I also, I think like that's twofold
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: one is knowing that the cans and things that the
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: team USA has been doing, you know, the non centralization
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: play this year certainly seems to have those players sort
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: of maybe more up to speed and up to date
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: then maybe they would be heading into the PWHL season,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: meaning like they would they've spent more time playing at
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: a higher level, So there is that. I think that's
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: a good sign. You know, Canada was playing both of
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: their you know, the goalies. They're arguably third and fourth
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: line goalies that were are probably going to be who
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: they're deciding between for that third spot and their roster.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I thought of Gasco and probably played a little bit better.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I also think Kaylee didn't get a ton of defensive support,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: so I don't hold that score line against her. But yeah,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I thought the US. I liked the way the US
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: was moving the puck. I liked that we were getting
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: some of the same lines, and how well they were
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: working together, like Janickey and Murphy, even the way that
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Layla and Taylor Heisie were working with Taylor being Layla
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: being a defender. Those two seemed to be playing really
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: well together in some of the past worlds, and so
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: how how that is working seemed really nice. I thought
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Layla looked much better than she did in the Wisconsin
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: series we saw her play in before before she left
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: for this, where she seemed a little tentative still, so
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: she seemed to be much closer to to sort of
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: full strength and feeling comfortable, and it was nice to
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: see her. She had a great goal where she stepped in,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: you know, took a puck some awesome one's stick and
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: took a couple of strides, got into net and put it,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: put it lit the lamp.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: It was just really sort of confident and smart and
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: the type of thing that you like to see from
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: your defender. So that I hope we see Carrie over
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: more because I don't know that she always plays sort
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: of that confident, insecure in that role. But yeah, overall,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I thought, you know, Team USA looked really great. They
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: just they the passing, the I mean Abby Berkeley scored.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: For ber Knees.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: It was it was just there were a couple of
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: just really dirty, really pretty, really nice looking settel plays
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: from from Team USA. Uh, Taylor, heisie with her fake slapshot.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I think I said this today on Victory Press, but
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: they're on Tuesday and Victory Press. But if she's adding
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: sort of a more ruthless part to her game. I
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: think her opponents in the PWHL and and at the
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Olympics should be a little scared because she's always been
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: very talented. But it was just it was cold as
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: ice to do that fake slap shot, drop the pass
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: and easy goal for hometown girl Haley's kimura in Buffalo.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: So yeah, takeaways are you know US was playing with
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: their lineup as they want it to be. Canada was
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: it right? Canada left a couple players off the roster,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: are trying to get better looks at some people, and
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: so I think I think that probably explains a lot
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: of sort of the disparities that we saw.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: And this is just the first half of what this
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: series will be. The second half. Edmonton, December tenth of thirteen.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: So we get away four weeks back in college essentially,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and then everyone goes off for the end of the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: first semester US and Canada player we're getting right back
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: into this, which is not usually the way goes when
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you think about the rivalry series. The second half is
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: usually just the pro players because college players are really
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: in the harm their season when they it seems like
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: they usually do the second half in January or February,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: don't they And that's obviously different this year because we're
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: talking the Olympics more then, but yeah.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: And we've done seven games series before, so it's actually
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: been three weekends, so it's all a little different. Yeah,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see. Presumably in December we will
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: see much more of that, like the lineups you expect
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: to see.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, also some international recognition. On Monday, a couple of
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: former and CVI women's hockey players inducted into the Hockey
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame from Canada and from Harvard Jennifer botterrel
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and from the US and Wisconsin Brianna Decker. Very fitting
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: honors for both of them. They're both heart and soul
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: members of their college teams and of their international teams.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: And that's really what stands out to me about both
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: of them is that you you knew what you're going
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: to get from them when they were part of your team,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and it was it was consistent. Was obviously a high
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: high level of skill, but also a high level of
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: for both of them, and so really well deserve for
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: both of them.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and for people that haven't been around, you know,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: since the beginning, John Borel is a two time Patty
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Kas winner. She won in two thousand and one and
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: two thousand and three. Sort of unusual with that that
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: you're in between, but she's the only two time winner, right, so.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: The winner as far as I were remembering, Yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have said that with one hundred percent
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: certainty until I was saying it to a large group
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: of people and now I'm second cassing myself. But I
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: mean also just to me, super interesting too, write like
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Barbral one in two thousand and one, in two thousand
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: and three, Brita Decker won in twenty twelve. Like that's
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: how sort of separate those are, those two are in age.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: And it was interesting too because Brianna Decker is the
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: first Badger to go into the Hockey Hall of Fame.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: We will I would imagine that, well that she's not
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: going to be the last to be you know, imagine
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Hillary retires, things like that. But it was, yeah, it's
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: just interesting. I don't think of Brienna, you know again
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: that sort of decade. You think of Jen from that
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: like builders group of the first set of NCAA players,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and so just interesting for them to go in at
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: the same time. Just kind of made me think about
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: the difference in how their careers went and where they
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: sort of ended up. And then also the other person
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: inducted was daniel Sivigo, the GM at the Montreal Victoire,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: the PWHL. Danielle didn't actually was like not allowed to
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: play as a child, and so she sort of got
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: involved in other ways, and so I think the sport
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: as a whole has a lot to thank her for
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: and owe her for women's hockey. So I just wanted
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: to be able to mention her too. Even though she
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: didn't play in DA school, Danielle has done amazing things
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: for for women's hockey and paving the way for what's
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: possible now.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Definitely, massive congratulations through to all of them and every
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: leagues part of the Class of twenty twenty. Fun. Okay,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: take another quick break when we come back, bullet ahead
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: to this coming weekend, then pending game show news. As
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I've seved before, stay with us on the podcast. Welcome
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: back to the podcast. Todd Nicole wrapping up this week's
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: episode with a look at what's coming this week. And
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: if you're listening to us Wednesday morning, as we hope
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: you are right away and you're excited about listening to
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the podcast right away? Drops Uh A Wednesday morning game
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: at Clarkson Saint Lawrence playing the the host Golden Knights.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Don't remember seeing a lot of ten am Eastern time Wednesday. Gay,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: it was on the schedule. But if that means hot
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: he's on TV either in the day on a Wednesday,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I'll take that.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I assume it's a it's a school day thing.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I mean this.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I believe they do this because these two are like
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: twelve miles apart or something like that. They're very close
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: to each other. But clark it's it's a daytime game.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: It's non conference. I assume.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: If you're home as I will be tomorrow, I will
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: wake up and watch some SMO Clarkson in the St.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Lawrence at nine am local time.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Important too for Clarkson to bosce back. I mean, that's
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: for sure. If they can get a goal in the
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: first five minutes, I think there will be a lot
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: of weight off shoulders there. Yeah.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: When I said that before, I did not realize this
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: game was happening. So yeah, could what well how to
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: answer on how their scoring situation is pretty quickly? Actually?
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, we will I'm Home and Home series and you
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: see see hockey this week. Number four Cornell and number
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: fourteen Colgate. We've talked about in the past, earlier in
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the show about the circles they've had. Well, Cornell just
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: keeps going. They're seven at all. It's really feels like
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: teams that are, you know, pointing different directions here. If
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: colgates him to, you know, have something to say about
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: things this season, they would they would be well served
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: to do so.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Starting Yeah, absolutely, I mean, I you know, it has
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: been a moderately friendly calendar so far for Cornelli, and
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: they did play fourteen yel and fifteen Brown this past weekend.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: But even with Colgate struggles, you know, again a bit
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: of a rivalry here these two. It'll be interesting. I think,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: you know, Colgate has to score some goals and they're
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: going up against Aniles Bergman, one of the best in
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: the country, and they have to be better on defense,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: and so yeah, I you know, the way things are going,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I think you have to look at this and the scene,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Cornell is gonna sweep. So it'll be interesting to see
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: what cold what Colgate can do this weekend.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: There's always something every weekend to make see I wasn't
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: expecting that, So that's that's right.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think they're gonna lay down and
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: like give up on the rest of the season. And
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of fight there. So I
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: imagine they did not love losing that game last weekend
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: to ri T and so again with that, like show
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: us what you're made of. They have a chance to
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: come out here, and you know, Cornell is one of
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: two undefeated teams left, so there's definitely some you know,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: these are team, two teams that have been vying for
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: the top of the conference the last two seasons. Like,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine there's a ton of positive feelings in
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: either direction there. I don't like, I don't think it's
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: like a huge rivalver Air hatred, but like that's the
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: team that you know, has been getting the other one
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: has been getting the top of the you know, standings,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: and so yeah, I think I think there's some some
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: great motivators there for the Raiders to go out and
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: really you know, show that last week was now the
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: team they're going to be this year.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, Battle of kame av gets going on Thursday and Friday.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Boston University and Boston College BC hosting Thursday and BU
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: hosting Friday. A couple of teams that you know have
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: shown we think we've seen sparks. We've seen some things
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: that are like, well, maybe there's something there around this
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: time last year, we're saying the same thing about BU.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: They've abuly had difficulties getting back to that point at
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the start of this season. It's it's a two and
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: eight overall start for BU, two and three east. So
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: this is one of those terrible cliches, but like the
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: UBC throughout the records, feels like it's sort of appropriate though.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, if if I'm BU, I can look at
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: this and say, here's our rival on the other side
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: of this. We've got a chance to turn things around
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: right now. Who else would you rather have it against?
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: For sure? And they have nothing to lose, Like the records,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: everything says that they should get swept this weekend, so
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: there should be absolutely nothing holding them back, like try everything,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: switch up pairs, try it like whatever it is. But
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I think that absolutely you need something to jump start
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: your season, Like you said, nothing better than your rival
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: to go out there and really turn things around and
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: really get you motivated to make a difference. And so
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, if I'm BU, I'm trying
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: everything this weekend, if any any trick plays you want
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: to try, and he changed it in the lineups and
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: he switched things around. I think you got to do
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: it because it's only in November. It's only the November eleventh, twelfth, whatever,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: So you can't look at your record right now and
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: be like, well, that's who we are this season. Like
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: there's so much as much as I you know, I
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: don't do I think they're gonna turn around and ring
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: when the conferences probably not, but like you also don't
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: have to sort of lay down and just let it
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: be what it is. And so there's always conference tournaments
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: in Hockey East with their one and done conference tournament
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: makes that very exciting and there's lots of opportunities and
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: so yeah, I think, like you said, what better way
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: to spark things and change it than against your rivals.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: And so I hope that we see some of that
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: from VU and expect and BC better be prepared and
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: the same thing. BC's got to go out and sort
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: of give everything they've got. They can't take this lightly.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: They can't look at that record and say like, you know,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: we're the better team and just assume that they're going
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: to get the wins.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: A couple will look at in the WHA Wisconsin at
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: number ten Saint Claus State Friday and Saturday number five
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Minnesota to lose that number fifteen Saint Thomas also Friday
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: and said they would talk about Saint Thomas stumbling against
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Emigie and so that will be an interesting one to
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: see whether they read bad going or if there's a
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: this is not an easy team to do that against.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: When you have at Loo coming into your building. What
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: what should we look for there? When when we're talking
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: about Saint Thomas and you know, like we've mentioned before,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: is there's gonna be these these hurdles, these stumbles of
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: not having been in a top fifteen position very long
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: and understanding what it means. Well, now you've got a
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: number five team coming in their building. So I'm they're
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: more familiar with that of having, uh, the higher ranked
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: team be the other on the other side.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they seem to do better in that sort of
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: underdog underestimate us sort of way. I just went and
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: checked because I could not remember last year they they
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: split their series with UMD, they beat them twice on
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: their home ice. Because what's interesting is is how it
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: seems to match up differently with some of the different
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: wh A teams, Like they've had a better luck against
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: like Ohio State than they have save vers Wisconsin or Minnesota.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Just something about the styles of play in Minnesota. Duluth
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: plays a completely diferent style from all three of those teams,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: and I think that it suits. I like how offensive
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Saint Thomas has been, not just like whether or not
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: they're scoring goals, but sort of the aggressiveness, the fast breaks,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: the transitions, what they've been able to do. I think
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: they're just trusting themselves so much more and sort of
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: instead of sort of like reacting to what's happening or planning,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: you know, planning to get bombarded and sort of maybe
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: not necessarily sitting back, but like playing a game that
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: is more reactive. And I don't feel like they're doing
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: that as much this year, and I think that that
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: could go well against Minnesota. Duluth can sometimes be in
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: the same position, which is to say that they are
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: they're not necessarily always getting to play their offensive game.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: They're not necessarily a team that's going to go out
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: and sort of impose their will on that other squad.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: And so I think there's an opportunity here, and I
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: think whoever it feels like there needs to be early
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: scoring from someone and whoever gets those early goal or
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: goals will will have an advantage here.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Ye. In that Wisconson Saint Cloud series, looks like Wisconsin
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: is back to full strength in terms of players. Everyone
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: was on the ice for their practice that we saw today.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And so that's with Della chef of Valley Vova being
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: out a couple of games and Landy Potter also being
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: out a few games. Ah, and before that it was
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: christ the Simms and everyone's being out and so there's
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: been even Murphy was out for one of the games
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: against Minnesota. It's been kind of a revolving door a
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: little bit of who's in a line of But if
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the Badgers back to full strength or closer to it anyway,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: that obviously makes them the team that can really make
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: teams pay offensive or for defensive mistakes. And with with
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: the offense.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: That they have, Yeah, I think Saint Cloud too has
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: been you know, if you've watched them their games, like
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: the some of them have just looked like a foot
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: race like showdowns, just back and forth up and down
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: the ice. And so Wisconsin showed some weaknesses against Minnesota
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: in terms of turnovers on defense and not the cleanest
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: d and so I think Saint Cloud is a team
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: that really could make them pay for that. The you know,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: the downside for Saint Cloud is that players like hey,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: ky Hiri, even if the puck gets stolen, She's she's
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: gonna to her darness to catch you and take it
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: right back off your stick. But I think, you know,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Saint Cloud is going to be looking for those opportunities
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: to sort of jump into a play and take take
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: the puck away and head off in the other direction. Yeah, Wisconsin,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I mean when they were having their injuries, they were
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: you know, like and they moved their third line center
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: up to the top and then she won wha forward
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: of the week. I was like, this is why people
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: hate Wisconsin because it was just like, all of these
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: things have changed and they're still out there doing what
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: they do. And so their adaptability in their depth is
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: what has helped carry them through the last few weeks.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: And now you're saying their whole lineup is back and
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: that's that's gonna be, I think a tough task for
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: for most anybody. Sink Cloud hasn't been as strong on defense,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: hasn't been as strong goaltending as like we know that
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: they can be, and so I think there's been a
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: little transition there for them. But they've also shown some
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: really good sparks of brilliance, And like I said, I
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: think the I think one of the focuses has been
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: sort of like exploiting others' mistakes and really like being
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: watching the puck and seeing opportunities to take it the
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: other direction. So I think Wisconsin has to be smart
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: with the puck and be careful of that because I
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: really think that that's how sink Cloud is gonna try
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: and keep this game. You're close, because they know that
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin's going to try and hold possession and is going
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: to put pucks on the net.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that's just a little bit of what's
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: coming this weekend. Make sure you check all the full
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: schedules on usc at Joe dot com. Now let's look
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: ahead a couple of weeks. There's a lot of things
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: you could be doing on Thanksgiving. Right, there's football games
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: on TV. You've got family, You've got no whatever kind
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: of special things do Nicole? What should people be watching
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: on TV on Thanksgiving?
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on Jeopardy on Thanksgiving. It's very strange
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: and very funny, and known about it for a little while.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I actually recorded an episode a few weeks ago from
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: LA when I was there filming, which could tell anybody
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: about But yeah, you know that's it. All happened very fast.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I first took the very first test July first, and
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I recorded on October twenty first, So was a whirlwind
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: for me. It explains why sometimes I've been real stressed
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: and real scatter brained and real feeling like I don't
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: know which way is up or down because I like
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: have less than a month to do some extra studying
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: and cramming and spent all my extra time doing that,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: memorizing the presidents and ordering things like that. But yeah,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: super exciting. My husband and I watch Jeopardy. We DVR
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: it and watch it while we eat dinner. Like this
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: is I am a big like trivia nerd. But also
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: it's not like been a lifelong dream. I think mostly
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: because like I never expected it and I took the
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: test the first test kind of on a whim, I
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: saw a commercial that was like signed up for the test,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: so I did, and then it like popped up on
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: my scree and not realize I was taking it that
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: that in there, and uh, that probably worked in my
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: favorite because I didn't overthink any of it. So I
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: took the test in a couple more tests and did
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: like a zoom where they tested me and asked me
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: questions and things. Within like two weeks of that final step,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: I got the invitation to come out and shoot an episode.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: So yeah, very exciting. I have no idea. Everybody has
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: to check their local listings because I don't know when
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: or where Jeopardy is in your hometown, and also football
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: is probably gonna make things weird. So I put this
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: out on social media on Tuesday night and someone already
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: said like as soon I will have Apparently somebody puts
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: out like where your Jeopardy can be found on days
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: and it has been preempted. So what I get that
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: from this very nice person. I will share that, but yeah,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: very exciting, very stressful, very weird. It is actually my
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: idea of like horror to sit and watch this amongst
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: my family on Thanksgiving. Yeah, I mean I'm a journalist.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I'm used to hearing myself and seeing myself, but I
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: don't want other I don't want to be sitting in
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: a group of people watching me. That sounds awful. When
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: I found out I was recording in like October, my
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: husband's like, what if you were on Thanksgiving? And I
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: was like, no, that would be awful. And then I
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: realized when I was there that they were recording the
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Thanksgiving week ones, and then like, you know, there's twelve
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: people in the rooms to go out with the returning Champion,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: and like keeps happening and I'm not getting called, and
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I'm going to be on Thansgiving.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: And they take your phone or tell you to turn
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: your phone and put it away, but I really wanted
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: to pull it out and just kind of like send
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: some explative life you text like this is all your fault.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it'll I'm sure it will be fine.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: You'll be it will be fine. It's just the whole
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: thing is very wonderful and very weird.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, I can imagine. Well, I think it's awesome. I
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: was always wondering, like what people do to prepare for
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: being on Jeopardy because it's not like, you know, just
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: your average game show. You actually do have to know
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: things as opposed yeah, games of chance or whatever. But
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: so yeah, it's interesting to I.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Think if I'd had more time, I would have like, yeah, well,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: you know, if you watch well, there are people least
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: smarter than me that have career like databases of previous
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: questions and like things that come up more often, and
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: things they call Jeopardy Pavlovs, which is like if they
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: stay like Danish, oh god, I don't want to get
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: this wrong, like finish composer, that's gonna be sibilius like
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the time, so like you don't
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: even need to know the rest of the clue. So
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, there's so they call them Pavlovs,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: and there's a bunch of those, so there's stuff that's
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: recurring and then like yeah, there's a ton of present
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: stuff and that's not something I ever learned. So if
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I'd had more time, I probably would have made a
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: more like intense study plan. But I found out and
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: was going to tape. I think it was less than
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: a month to three to four weeks four to five weeks.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly what I and this is all
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: I'm need to remind everybody that I found out about this.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: That means I found out in early September, which is
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: when the hockey season was start shitting and I was
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: doing previews and things like the timing was you know,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: a plus in that way. So I just kind of
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: thought like, well, there's no way I can and study
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: everything I need to study, and so I just tried
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: to think of the things that I knew that I
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: wasn't as good in, things like the Presidents, things like
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: opera and ballet. I studied up on my Shakespeare sort
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: of like you know, I'm a person who went to college,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: so I have like a very basic Shakespeare, but like
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: who are all the characters in all the different plays?
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Things like that. So like this is me on the
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: airplane going through flash cards because.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I do have the Internet.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know the eddy of that helped
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: or mattered, but it went well. I was happy with it.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: We can talk a little bit more about it because
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to share anything until it airs, so
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: we can talk a little bit more about it after
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: it does air. But you know, spend your American Thanksgiving
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: with me. If you don't get to chances to watch
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: it on Thanksgiving, then they put them online, I think
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: on Hulu and maybe Peacock or somewhere else. I will
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: get all this information the day after it airs, so
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: you can watch it online. But it's very exciting, it's cool.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: People have been very nice the little bit we've talked
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: about it so far online, so.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. So I hope you all
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: of our our listeners are going to check out too,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: so not to add more, you know, stress to your life. Right.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's fine. I mean I'm being awkward about it,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: but it's very It is so cool, and just the
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: whole thing has been very surreal. I mean, even because
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: it happens so fast. Even that I was like, am
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: I getting Is this?
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Am I pumped? Is this a lie?
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Am I getting?
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Is it a scam? I really didn't believe any of it.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: And then suddenly I was like being asked for my
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: plain details and like, here is the QR code to
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: get on the Sony Picture Studio a lot. And I
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, well, okay, I guess that means it's real.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I guess it's real. Yeah, all right, well we're going
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: to wrap it up with that. Make sure you put
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: that on your calendar for Thanksgiving everyone, and check on
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: the call on that, and make sure you come back
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: and join us next week for another edition of the
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: podcast where we look back at what happens in this
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: weekend's game. So fur to cole On Todd, thanks for
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: leaching