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- 0:02[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Wednesday, December 16, 2025 edition of the Daily Article Podcast from Dynaston Forum.
- 0:09[SPEAKER_00]: Today's Daily article is authored by friend and co-founder Dr. Jim Dynaston.
- 0:14[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Chris Elkins, narrator.
- 0:18[SPEAKER_00]: Jason Bradley DeFord is known professionally as Jelly Roll.
- 0:22[SPEAKER_00]: His song, Son of a Center, won three country music television awards in 2023.
- 0:27[SPEAKER_00]: The same year, he won the award for New Artist in the Country Music Association Awards.
- 0:33[SPEAKER_00]: He also made news for his weight loss of nearly 300 pounds and was recently inducted into the grand old opera.
- 0:41[SPEAKER_00]: But his life story is even more striking than his musical talent.
- 0:46[SPEAKER_00]: He was baptized at the age of 14, but says around that time he began dabbling in drugs and stopped attending church.
- 0:54[SPEAKER_00]: From his teenage years into his 20s, he was arrested numerous times and spent time in jail for felonies.
- 1:00[SPEAKER_00]: He returned to his faith when he was 39 and is 14-year-old daughter expressed interest in being baptized.
- 1:08[SPEAKER_00]: During his recent conversation on Joe Rogan's podcast, Rogan said to him,
- 1:15[SPEAKER_00]: Jelly real replied, you know what's crazy?
- 1:18[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to get super spiritual out of the gate, but I will because I think God wants me to right now because if you say that, the singer explained, there's a scripture in the Bible that says, in Christ, all things are a new creation, which I thought was interesting because it didn't talk about restoring the old.
- 1:36[SPEAKER_00]: It says that in God, we are a completely new creation.
- 1:40[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
- 1:41[SPEAKER_00]: I was looking at it at first like, I'm restoring my heart, but then when you're saying that, I'm like, no, I didn't restore my heart.
- 1:50[SPEAKER_00]: I got a whole new heart.
- 1:52[SPEAKER_00]: Jelly Roll said, this is a brand new heart, Joe.
- 1:55[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
- 1:56[SPEAKER_00]: It might be cloaked as the old one, but God touched it.
- 2:00[SPEAKER_00]: It's a whole new heart, baby.
- 2:02[SPEAKER_00]: It's a different heart.
- 2:03[SPEAKER_00]: In quote, when I began teaching apologetics 40 years ago, the question was, is Christianity true?
- 2:10[SPEAKER_00]: I taught my seminary students to defend the faith using evidence for God's existence, the veracity of Scripture, and the deit of Jesus, and so on.
- 2:19[SPEAKER_00]: In today's post-modern post-truth culture, the question is, why should I make your truth my truth?
- 2:25[SPEAKER_00]: In a day when user reviews are the
- 2:29[SPEAKER_00]: Where people want to know if a particular technology or truth or for those who tried it, the evidence most needed today is changed lives.
- 2:38[SPEAKER_00]: Here is where Christianity faces its greatest challenge and offers its greatest hope.
- 2:43[SPEAKER_00]: Our challenge is that Christians are supposed to live like Christ.
- 2:47[SPEAKER_00]: We are intended to manifest this character in our world according to Galatians 5 vs 22 and 23, and his light in our darkness illuminated in Matthew 5 vs 14 through 16, and from 1 Peter 1 vs 16 to be holy as he is holy.
- 3:04[SPEAKER_00]: When we fail to live up to our truth claims, secular people understandably reject the relevance of our beliefs for their lives.
- 3:12[SPEAKER_00]: But this fact also leads to our greatest hope.
- 3:15[SPEAKER_00]: As Jelioral said, Jesus doesn't restore your old heart.
- 3:19[SPEAKER_00]: He gives you a new heart.
- 3:21[SPEAKER_00]: He takes up residence in your life by his spirit stated in 1 Corinthians 3 verse 16.
- 3:28[SPEAKER_00]: As Paul said in Galatians 2 verse 20,
- 3:30[SPEAKER_00]: It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me.
- 3:34[SPEAKER_00]: It is Christ in you that is the hope of glory for Nelson Colossians 1, verse 16.
- 3:41[SPEAKER_00]: Other religions try to help us do better.
- 3:44[SPEAKER_00]: Jesus empowers us to be better.
- 3:47[SPEAKER_00]: Today begins the seven Antifons of Advent.
- 3:51[SPEAKER_00]: From December 17th to December 23rd, Christians around the world will focus on seven proclamations about Jesus as the Messiah.
- 3:59[SPEAKER_00]: This practice goes back to at least the 8th century, and perhaps even earlier than the 6th.
- 4:04[SPEAKER_00]: The Antifons, short responses sung or recited in church services, are also the basis for the beloved Him, O come, O come Emmanuel.
- 4:14[SPEAKER_00]: The first being recited today in worship services, praise and English, a wisdom coming forth from the mouth of the most high, reaching from one end to the other, mildly and sweetly ordering all things, come and teach us the way of prudence.
- 4:31[SPEAKER_00]: We're right to seek such wisdom, apart from Christ, our finite fallen minds are darkened in their understanding revealed by Ephesians 4 verse 18.
- 4:41[SPEAKER_00]: We can be taken captive by empty deceit, cautioned by Colossians 2 verse 8, and led a stray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ in 2 Corinthians 11 verse 3.
- 4:52[SPEAKER_00]: However, the good news in 2 Corinthians 10 verse 5 is that you and I have divine power to destroy strongholds so that we can destroy arguments from every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God and take every thought captive to obey Christ.
- 5:10[SPEAKER_00]: But this divine power is not within our human capacity.
- 5:14[SPEAKER_00]: Zechariah IV, verse 6, clearly states, not by might nor by power, but by my spirit, says the Lord of hosts.
- 5:23[SPEAKER_00]: Jesus promised, in John 14, verse 26, that the Spirit will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
- 5:31[SPEAKER_00]: This is just one way he gives us a new heart as we are transformed by the renewal of your mind, announced in Romans 12, verse 2.
- 5:44[SPEAKER_00]: 1.
- 5:45[SPEAKER_00]: Trust in Christ as your personal Savior and Lord declared in John 1, verse 12.
- 5:50[SPEAKER_00]: I never want to assume that people who do religious things such as reading or writing articles like this one are therefore born again as God's children.
- 6:00[SPEAKER_00]: If you're not sure about your salvation experience, I
- 6:03[SPEAKER_00]: I encourage you to read my article, Why Jesus?
- 6:07[SPEAKER_00]: Find a link to it in today's episode notes, and speak to a pastor or Christian friend about your relationship with Christ.
- 6:15[SPEAKER_00]: To submit your mind and life every day to the Holy Spirit taught an Ephesians 5 verse 18.
- 6:21[SPEAKER_00]: This is the conscious decision to surrender your thoughts, motives, and plans to him.
- 6:26[SPEAKER_00]: then stay connected with the Spirit as you pray through your day, seeking His wisdom and directions as you walk in His presence.
- 6:35[SPEAKER_00]: Three, name your decision or challenge and seek the Spirit's guidance, partner with him by consulting scripture, speaking with Christian friends and reading trusted literature.
- 6:47[SPEAKER_00]: know that God wants you to know his will even more than you do, affirmed by James 1, verse 5, if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him.
- 7:02[SPEAKER_00]: So, to follow Christ in practical terms,
- 7:05[SPEAKER_00]: First, trust him as your Lord and Savior, then submit your mind and life every day to the Holy Spirit.
- 7:13[SPEAKER_00]: Third, partner with him by consulting scripture, speaking with Christian friends, and reading trusted literature, and form.
- 7:21[SPEAKER_00]: share God's word with your world, obeying Romans 1, verse 16.
- 7:26[SPEAKER_00]: One of the best ways to learn is to teach.
- 7:28[SPEAKER_00]: When we seek and speak biblical truth to the issues of our day, we grow in wisdom as instruments of wisdom.
- 7:35[SPEAKER_00]: The Scottish scientist and evangelist, Henry Drummond, observed, will power does not change men, time does not change men, Christ does.
- 7:46[SPEAKER_00]: How will Christ change you today?