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Inside the Garage: Recalls, Racing, and the Hidden Cost of “Cheap” Car Parts · In Wheel Time Podcast

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  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to another In Wheel Time podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to the award-winning In-Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's Mars' fault.
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  SPEAKER_03: Isn't that right, Mr.
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  SPEAKER_03: Be here, Mike?
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  SPEAKER_03: Hey, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to the award-winning car talk show, In Wheel Time.
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  SPEAKER_03: Make me call David.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: We've always got that in our back pocket.
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  SPEAKER_03: We can call David and uh have a good time.
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  SPEAKER_03: They'll maybe turn this around.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's been texting, so yeah, he's awake.
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  SPEAKER_03: All right.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is your all place, uh, your place for all things automotive.
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  SPEAKER_03: Coming up, our story of the week, recalls, guess the sold car price.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's all coming up.
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  SPEAKER_03: Gonna have fun with that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Mars has this week in auto history.
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  SPEAKER_03: Jeff has the racing calendar, and I'll get you caught up on the stories making automotive news headlines.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_03: Howdy, along with Mike Out of This World, Mars, we always need more Jeff Zeken, Chief Engineer, David Ainsley.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know who I am.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm coming or going or doing something crazy that I shouldn't be doing.
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  SPEAKER_03: All right, it's what we call in wheel time.
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  SPEAKER_03: And um, we're gonna start with our story of the week.
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  SPEAKER_03: And for those of us that like to putter around in the garage on our cars, where is this going?
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: Putting around?
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  SPEAKER_02: First thing he showed me this morning, the guy I had to take a tour of his garage.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_02: He's all excited.
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  SPEAKER_02: Did I really?
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's all excited.
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  SPEAKER_02: Why did I?
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's a nice garage.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's got it all cleaned out, all is ready to go, and he's gonna be.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but he just moved in.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he did.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's been a couple of years.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what you know, no.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's nothing, there's no no no.
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  SPEAKER_03: We don't do that.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's slick and lean.
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  SPEAKER_03: That he is.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's ready.
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  SPEAKER_03: Here's our story of the week.
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  SPEAKER_03: A failed water pump.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_03: Now, this is a story from Automotive News that came down the pike, and I'm going, hmm, who hasn't gone to the auto parts store and bought a uh an alternator and put it on yourself?
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  SPEAKER_03: Piece of cake.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: Or a water pump, whatever the case may be.
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  SPEAKER_03: So a failed water pump led to a blown head gasket in a Toyota Prius wrecking the engine.
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  SPEAKER_03: A spark plug melted and fell into its cylinder, ruining the engine of a Toyota Land Cruiser.
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  SPEAKER_03: A starter in a Toyota Camry malfunctioned after a year.
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  SPEAKER_03: These situations may seem unrelated, but there's a common link.
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  SPEAKER_03: The failed parts were purchased online and billed as and looked like genuine Toyota parts, but they were counterfeit, according to Ahmad Ibrahim, owner of the car care nut automotive in suburban Chicago.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_03: Ibrahim came across counterfeit parts often that about two years ago he required customers to sign a waiver if they wanted him to use parts they bought online, relieving him of liability for any ensuing issues.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_03: In August, the Toyota master diagnostic technician went even further, opting to no longer install parts purchased online by customers.
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  SPEAKER_03: He said, I started asking myself, why are we doing this?
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  SPEAKER_03: Most of our customers buy parts from us.
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  SPEAKER_03: So why would we put our reputation on the line for such a small percentage of customers?
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  SPEAKER_03: So the story continues.
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  SPEAKER_03: Counterfeit auto parts are growing, uh problem nationwide.
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  SPEAKER_03: The pandemic played a big role because the millions of consumers under uh stay-at-home orders started shopping more online, which makes it easier for counterfeiters to do business.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, the council is a nonprofit uh alliance of almost a dozen North American automakers striving to raise awareness and combat counterfeit parts.
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  SPEAKER_03: And uh it is called Automotive Anti-Counterfeiting Council.
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  SPEAKER_03: How bad's the problem?
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  SPEAKER_03: U.S.
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  SPEAKER_03: Department of Transportation's Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration issued a safety advisory regarding the rise of counterfeit auto parts across the United States.
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  SPEAKER_03: The biggest one was airbags.
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  SPEAKER_03: People try to change out their airbags.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it is dangerous to do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, very explode in your face.
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  SPEAKER_02: I saw a technician have one fire off on them.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, the potential hazards associated with counterfeit auto parts are far worse than an impossible to program key fob, loss of vehicle performance, or expensive repairs.
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  SPEAKER_03: Key fobs, number one on the counterfeiters list.
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  SPEAKER_03: Be careful what you buy online.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'll tell you my online story, and that was with the Corvette.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_03: If you remember, you helped me put in the emergency blinker relay.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we had to take the dash apart.
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  SPEAKER_03: Had to take the dash apart to get to it because it's up underneath the dash.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was a counterfeit part.
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  SPEAKER_03: I went and had to buy a Chevrolet part, works fine since then.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh another thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, we only did it once.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_03: You had to do it again?
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  SPEAKER_03: Temperature, no, the the the uh pressure sensor in in the wheels, right?
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you had that done.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_03: I had that done.
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  SPEAKER_03: And you got your new tires.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_03: No, I didn't.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_03: And I had to go and buy some sensors because it kept popping the notification on the dashboard.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_03: Bought some sensors, it didn't work.
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  SPEAKER_03: Couldn't program it.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I wanna wound up having to pay double the price, and I bought GMs and they work fine.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_03: They last for 20 years.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_03: Just spend the extra money and buy the original parts from the manufacturer.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_03: I want to know how the spark plug in the first part of the story.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, that's that sounded kind of strange.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_04: Let me ask you, Jeff, from from your experience in the tire world, I mean, you can buy tires online now and have them shipped.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_04: You can I you know, I to me that I don't I can't imagine having four tires shipped to my house and then taking them to somebody, Firestone or Jack the Ripper down the street with the used tire place to have them mounted.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, you can all if you do it online, you can use that end user, that like a discount or uh you know Bob's tire shop or whatever as the delivery point, as the place that accepted.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_02: And then you go in there and you tell them, hey, I'm gonna buy these tires, they're gonna come in three days, and I'm having them sent to you, and I'm gonna come in and you're gonna put them on for me.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can arrange all that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh TPC numbers on tires are all factory numbers.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you've got the born on date we talk about all the time.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: You you do have uh tires that are OE fit for say a Ford GM or a Stellantis vehicle, but are are can be purchased at a Costco or a SAMS, but they're not the TPC number, they're not designed specifically for that vehicle.
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  SPEAKER_02: So there are you wouldn't I wouldn't call them counterfeit, I just call them uh out of a good, better, best are probably a good scenario whereas you can buy the the better or the best.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_02: So there are things out there, not necessarily a scam, but be careful.
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  SPEAKER_03: Use caution when you buy exactly car parts and try to put them on yourself because you're I don't know, you gotta be careful.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_03: Let out refuse.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um time now for uh some of the cars that have been recalled.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_03: God.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_03: This should be a guessing game.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_03: BMW has issued a major recall affecting nearly 200,000 vehicles in the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_03: due to a significant fire risk.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um it it's it's not good.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_03: They're advising you to park your vehicle outdoors from 2019 to 2022 vehicles.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_03: Core issue lies with corroding engine starter relay.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_03: Here are the vehicles the Z4, 2019 to 22 models now, BMW 330i, the X3, the X4, the 530i, the 430i, and the 230i.
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  SPEAKER_03: Also includes the Toyota Supra vehicles 20 to 22, which are manufactured by BMW.
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  SPEAKER_03: Kia recalling 39,000 U.S.
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  SPEAKER_03: vehicles because of an issue with the HVAC system that may lead to overheating, increasing the risk of fire.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_03: Land Rover, Range Rover Evoke 2023, rear view camera doesn't display.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_03: Driver and passenger window trim pieces may detach in the Jeep Grand Wagone ear and wagonear.
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  SPEAKER_03: High pressure fuel pump may leak and cause a fire.
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  SPEAKER_03: Porsche Cayenne, Panamera, and Panamera E Hybrid, 24 to 26 model years.
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  SPEAKER_03: Engine compartment fire, Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator for 2020.
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  SPEAKER_03: All these are recalls.
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  SPEAKER_03: Loss of steering control from steering column detachment.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_03: Martha, hold this.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_03: Hold this Ford F 250, 250 SD, 350, 350 SD, 450 SD.
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  SPEAKER_03: And the list goes on and on.
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  SPEAKER_03: 2020 to 2021.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_03: I hear Fords recalling cars they haven't even made yet.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_03: That well, they are.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, they're on the list.
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  SPEAKER_03: Preemptive recalls.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, preemptive.
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  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um, let's do uh the sold car roundup.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_03: Shall we do that?
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  SPEAKER_03: You got this, Michael?
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  SPEAKER_03: And Mr.
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  SPEAKER_03: Mars has this.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh I've been working with Mr.
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  SPEAKER_03: Mars and trying to get this.
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  SPEAKER_03: So um he can't participate because he now knows the prices, but we're gonna start with the first car up a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now, this is a resto mod, clearly.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, that is not a factory paint job.
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  SPEAKER_03: But um, I will tell you that there's something rare about this car.
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  SPEAKER_03: What do you think that that would be uh that would affect what the price you think it's going to be that was sold for?
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_02: I seem as owner or something.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_04: Aftermarket tires, wheels, the grill.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna go 32 on this one.
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  SPEAKER_03: 32.
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  SPEAKER_03: Is anybody else online with us?
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Mr.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: Uh George is sitting here.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_04: He's with us.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_03: $13999 for George.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no doubt.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um, uh well, let me just go ahead and move through this.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_03: So this is a 69 Chevy Camaro sold for$79,800.
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  unknown: Woof.
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  unknown: Woof.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's a little steep.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, and what's the what's the reason it uh don't know.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_03: Oh uh sold car price for the 1967 Pontiac Catalina, our next car up.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_03: It's a convertible, it's huge, it's not gonna fit in the garage.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_03: And this car is yours if the price is right.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_03: 27.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_03: 27?
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_03: That's probably high, but I'll go 27.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_03: Well, um, I'm uh I I will tell you that um it's a convertible.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_03: It's a convertible, and it's really nice.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_03: Uh anybody else want to bid on that?
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_03: Let me just tell you at 25725.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't far off.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_02: No, you weren't.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_02: You did good.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I did it with TTL.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I see.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I put over the top.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_03: Here's one for Mr.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_03: Mars.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_03: I can see this in his driveway.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_03: A 1956 DeSoto Adventurer.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_03: 56 DeSoto Adventurer.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_03: What do you think that that's sold for?
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_03: 18.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_03: 18.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_03: Let me just let me you might want to reconsider that.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_03: I think this is a this is a uh this is not a resto mod, this is a stocker, and I think that it's all original.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now how much?
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_03: 19.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_03: 19.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_04: Gotta remember that's a big heavy car, Jeff.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_04: That could be a lot of scrap metal there.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm I have no idea.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna stay with it.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_02: All right, well, we're gonna sold for$41,475.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_02: George is saying under 10 grand.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, my my parents, I think that was the first car that dad bought.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, wow.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_03: And not this particular one.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_03: He bought a really ugly green one back in.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_03: And and that's pretty compared to this gold.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, compared to this gold, that ugly green one with the stoplight on the back trunk.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_03: That my mother was taught how to get out and get the starter to work with a hammer and a big stuff.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_03: You go, Mom.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_03: That George and I get a pool of money to buy this.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_03: Next car up a 1982 Ford Mustang.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_03: 82.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_03: 82.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_03: Now, is that a fox body?
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_03: 82?
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_03: I believe it is.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_03: I believe it is.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_03: 82 Ford Mustang, black.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it looks like it may be a cobra or something.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_03: Don't expect big horsepower out of it, but it looks super clean.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and um, it may be something that for I think would be something to consider.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_03: 82.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna go 14.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_03: 14.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_04: They're pretty popular.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_03: I know.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_03: Do you remember how much it was, Mars?
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, I can look.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_04: No, I don't want you to look.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_04: That's why I'm asking you.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_04: No, I don't remember.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so George says$15,999.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_03: It sold George is spot on.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_03: $16.8 is what it's sold for.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: See, now that'd be a great car for a kid going off to college.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_03: Looks good in the whole nine-year-old.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, smoke the tires with the red lights and everything.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_03: Stop.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_03: Stop.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, this one here, uh, this is for you, Mike Mars.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_03: A 19.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_03: It's a green 59 Studebaker Lark.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's a gold one, now a green one.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, this is more along the lines of George's car.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_04: Is that aftermarket wheels?
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_03: Uh uh It looks like it's it looks like it's got some Corvette wheels on it.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go with George, I'm gonna go with$89.99.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_02: Tudor hardtop.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm telling you.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_02: $89.99.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_03: Earl Scheib painted that, didn't he?
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, it looks like it, yeah.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_03: $59 Studebaker Lark.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_03: It sold for$24,675.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_03: Man, you must be really desperate for a car.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_03: The color sold it.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_04: I can see me going up and down the drag in that, man.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_04: You talk about you get some attention.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_02: You'd call you a drag if you're in there.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_03: A 1999 Chevy Silverado.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_04: Why are we not?
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_03: Single cab.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_03: And I I'm I I I'm drawn to that.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_03: A 99 Chevy Silverado 1500.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_03: Got some custom wheels on it.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_03: Looks like a nice clean paint job on it.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_04: But make the buttlers off of it, so it's nice and light.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's not it's not a square body, so it's nothing special, but it is special to this person that was selling it.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_03: Six grand.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_03: Six really, yeah.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um anybody else, George, you want to pipe in there and guess a price?
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_03: Well, let me just say that it sold for 126.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, and it's painted A M maroon.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_03: Oh boy.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_03: And that would be a great George is under 10.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_03: We're close, George.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, absolutely.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_03: Next up, uh Pontiac Ventura.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_03: Now, if I'm not mistaken, this was a uh uh uh make-believe Pontiac.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_03: It was actually a Chevy Nova.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and they tried to turn them into GTOs, too.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they changed the little nose piece.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_03: It looks like yeah, that's about it.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_03: So a 73 Pontiac Ventura.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_03: Eight grand.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: Probably that's too high, but I'll go eight.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_04: Looks like it's got factory wheels and stuff on it.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: Now the stripings try to f uh a GTO clone.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_03: I I I think that that's all stock.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_03: I think that that's the way it came.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_03: 73 Pontiac Ventura sold for 1470.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_03: Oh wow.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_03: Next up, too much.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_03: This is for this is for David Ainsley.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_03: A 1964 Ampha Car.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_03: AmphaCar.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: Model 770.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_03: I saw one of these cars up close.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_03: Have you ever looked at one of these, Mars?
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_04: Not like that, but I've looked at an AmphaCar.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_03: There was one at the lupe uh function we did.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_03: It's amazing that that thing actually floated at any point in its career.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_03: Did you see how it was made?
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it had a lot of caulking in it.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_03: All the seams had caulking.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_03: The 1964 Ampha Car model 770, there aren't many left anymore because they've all rusted out.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_03: Or sunk.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_03: Sunk.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_03: How much?
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_03: 18.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_03: 18.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_03: Well, no, you're wrong, sir.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_03: It sold for drum roll please$56,700.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_03: Oh.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_03: Nay nay, as they say.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_03: Unsinkable Molly Band.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_03: And finally, you know what BMW stands for?
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, British Motorworks.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_03: No, it stands for Break My Wallet.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_03: And here's one that will do it.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_03: A 1975 BMW 2002.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_03: Now, it's a 75 model year, but it is a BMW 2002.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go 10,000.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_02: 10,000.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_03: Mars, do you want to guess?
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_04: No, I was just remembering a guy had one here in town, and we all thought, you know, he we'd see his wife driving it.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_04: We thought, oh, this is so cool, you know, that's a real BMW.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_04: And then we found out he couldn't keep it running.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_04: The reason she drove it is because it she didn't need it very often.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_03: It sold for 16,275.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_03: So for 16,275, there you go.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_03: A problem on wheels for the rest of your life.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_04: Take it with you.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um coming up, we have stuff.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_03: Just ahead, Jeff's racing calendar.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_03: Mars has this week in auto history, and I'll bring you some auto news headlines.
• 17:22
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  SPEAKER_03: Time now for Jeff's Racing Calendar, sponsored by the Texas Muscle Car Club Challenge.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for that.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_02: NASCAR Craftsman Truck is uh yes they ran yesterday, Charlotte.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_02: They ran the Roval.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I did not catch any of it because we were at a uh dinner last night, so I did not see it.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_02: Uh the Xfinity Boys.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_02: Weren't you with that at the dinner with me?
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's why I didn't see it.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't see much of anything after it either.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I woke up this morning, I think, with that same feeling.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: Today you got Bank of America Roval, Charlotte, for the Xfinity Boys, and then you got the Cup Guys coming in tomorrow.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: Same thing, Charlotte Roval.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it's a series playoff race, and that's on at 3 p.m.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_02: and it's on the CW channel.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we got NHRA, the Texas NHRA Fall Finals at the Motorplex are going next week from the 9th to the 12th.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll be seeing them out there.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: IMSA is done, but I do have some other things.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_02: I've got uh the sled dog racing, and then you've got sled dog racing is coming up in December.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna have something on that as well.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_02: And then we've got the uh Adorod running is coming up in March of next year.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, dinner od race.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_02: Listen, I'm gonna be glued to my television.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: I think we need to send Mike out there.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_03: He could ride one of the sleds, and and do this remote broadcast.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but he could be going through Peterville.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, what did you say?
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_02: Take the GoPro, you know?
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, do that.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's it's it's sort of like the Lilienthals.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_02: You could be our version of the Lilienthals, Mike.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: A little cheaper version, yeah, a little cheaper version.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_02: And then we got the Singapore Grand Prix that was on this morning, uh, F1 that was the Marina Bay Street Circuit in Singapore City.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's a 62 laper.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know who won, and uh that's about it.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, Mr.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_03: Mars, it's all on you for this week in auto history, sir.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, a few things that we found that were rather interesting this week.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, in 1901, Henry Ford shocked the racing world by defeating Alexander Winton in a 10-lap race.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_04: Now, this is before Henry Ford really got into automotive production.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_04: He built a car by hand and called it the Sweepstakes.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_04: Now, what this did was give him credibility, street cred, built his reputation, so he got investors that actually helped him start the Henry Ford Company, which was a precursor to the Ford Motor Company.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_04: Then in 1908, the Model T was introduced.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_04: Now, this is the one that really became the car that put America on wheels.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_04: It was built for the masses, it was durable, affordable, and easy to repair, priced at$850, which got cheaper as production improved with the assembly line.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_04: They built over 15 million units of this car by 1927.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_04: Then in 1917, Chevrolet, not to be outdone, introduces the Series 490 Touring Car.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_04: Now, this was aimed directly at competing with that Model T, started out at$490, offered more features for the money because they already saw what Ford was doing, stepped it up with electric lighting, and it was something that Ford charged extra for.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_04: This is where the rivalry from Ford and Chevrolet started and continued through the American car market to today.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_04: 1928, the Chrysler Plymouth brand was announced, and it was started, it was designed to be a low-priced brand to compete with that Ford and Chevrolet that is already out there.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_04: Now, they combined the Chrysler engineering, the reputation for quality, and it immediately made the Plymouth successful, partially because of the pricing and the features it offered.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_04: Sales took off and made Chrysler part of the original Detroit Big Three automakers.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_04: Now, in 1935, this week, Deucemberg, the luxury automaker, ceased production.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_04: They've been struggling because of finances, because of their engineering and their elegance.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_04: The things they put into the car that made a Deucemberg the ultimate status symbol cost a lot of money.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_04: And with the Great Depression coming in, they just really couldn't sell them.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_04: So they quit making them.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_04: And one of the big things was the straight eight.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_04: That's where they got all their performance, and that was a big thing back then that that straight eight was out there.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_04: 1944.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, excuse me, 1948.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_04: Citroen, uh 2C V.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_04: Here we go.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_04: Here we go.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_04: They revealed the 2C V.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_04: How do you say it then?
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_04: Citron?
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_04: Citron?
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_04: Citrillin.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_04: That's not the citron.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_04: I'm going to take your word for it.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_04: It was designed as a rugged, another affordable people's car to carry farm goods over rough roads over in France and other parts of the European world and became very popular.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_04: And it actually remained in production until 1990, and they built over 3.8 million.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_04: And one of the things that I thought was interesting is actually an air-cooled front-wheel drive setup, which is, I think, is very unusual with air cooling.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_04: Now, in 1955, Ford introduces the Thunderbird.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_04: Now, this is what they considered a personal luxury car, but instead of being a sporty car like the Chevrolet Corvette, which you would think that's who it's up against being a two-seater, they emphasized the comfort as much as performance.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, and included a few upscale features that they felt like set it above the Corvette.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_03: I've never ever considered it anything other than a competitor to the Corvette back in the day.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_04: Ask anybody, anybody I know would tell you the same exact thing, but the way their marketing was set back then, they were looking to make it a little bit more than that.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_04: Well, what did they know?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_04: They haven't recalled it yet.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_04: So I guess they knew something.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_04: Day's not over.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_04: 1964.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_04: Studebaker stops U.S.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_04: production.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_04: Now that's important.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_04: U.S.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_04: production, because they shut down the historic South Bend, Indiana plant, and uh they had a lot of innovative designs, but they could not compete against the Detroit Big Three.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_04: Bad finances, declining sales, outdated models.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_04: They stopped building them in the United States in 1964.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_04: However, they continued in Canada until 1966, and this is the very last Studebaker built, although it was built in Canada, but that is the last one.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_03: Never offended.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_04: No, 1997.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_04: The last Plymouth Voyager was built in the U.S.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_04: And it rolled off the assembly line in St.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_04: Louis.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_04: I did not know they had an assembly plant in St.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_04: Louis.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_04: But this is uh really the turning point in the minivan segment and Plymouth.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_04: Although the Voyager was introduced in 1984, it started all this, and but by the 1990s, minivan competition had really gotten big.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody was building something, and with the Voyager being phased out because of slow sales, that it actually led to Plymouth's eventual discontinuation in 2001.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_04: And that's some of the things in automotive history this week.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_03: Well, good.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_03: That takes us right up to the end of the show.
• 26:06
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• 27:47
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_03: We could just we could hear that over and over again.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe we should incorporate that into our bump music.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe we should.
• 27:56
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