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Skye Wheatley’s Relationship Limbo · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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Speaker 1: Sophie Torver and coming up on today's show, Sky Wheatley
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Speaker 1: and Lockie Waugh's relationship limbo and Matt Sikowsky spotted with
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Speaker 1: a new flame in Adelaide. But first, Mitch Orville and
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Speaker 1: Chloe Zepp are making a return to YouTube, Kate. I'm
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Speaker 1: very excited about this announcement. So last week, Mitch posed
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Speaker 1: the question to his Instagram followers whether he should make
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Speaker 1: a return to YouTube. And it's all coming off the
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Speaker 1: back of his sons wanting to be a part of
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Speaker 1: the channel. So he wrote, me and Chloe stopped doing
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Speaker 1: YouTube because we didn't think it was fair to make
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Speaker 1: that decision on behalf of our kids at an early
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Speaker 1: age to document their life online. Fast forward three to
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Speaker 1: four years and the boys, especially Artie, love outdoor adventure
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Speaker 1: YouTube channels, a.k.a. Brody Moss. I feel like all the
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Speaker 1: kids love a bit of Brody Moss. Yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: Indy Clinton's son is a big fan too. So is
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Speaker 1: Sarah's day son, Fox. Yeah, so Mitch said that now
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Speaker 1: he wants to do what mum and dad did, full
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Speaker 1: circle moment. Should we fire up the family YouTube channel
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Speaker 1: again but make it outdoor and adventure? Now the following
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Speaker 1: morning Mitch mocked up his face on Russell Coit's body
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Speaker 1: and wrote, the YouTube is coming back, stay tuned. He
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Speaker 1: then shared a screenshot of insights from his original story
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Speaker 1: that showed 93.7 thousand people had viewed it and over
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Speaker 1: 5,000 people had liked it. 875 people had replied and
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Speaker 1: 133 had shared it. So I think that is a
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Speaker 1: big yes. We want to see Mitch and Chloe back
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Speaker 1: on YouTube. But I want to see them back family vlogging.
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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily want to see them sharing their outdoor adventures.
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Speaker 1: I want to hear about their life. I, but my
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Speaker 1: husband loves Brodie Moss. He is a massive fan. Occasionally
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Speaker 1: I will watch the videos with him, but I think
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Speaker 1: that Mitch and Chloe's audience is built on a lot
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Speaker 1: of young women who prefer to hear about their life
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Speaker 1: and perhaps their family life as opposed to seeing them
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Speaker 1: go on these outdoorsy adventures. When you consider that Mitch
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Speaker 1: and Chloe shut down the YouTube channel because they didn't
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Speaker 1: think it was fair to make that decision on their
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Speaker 1: son's behalf, but now when they're four and five, they're like,
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, they approve. It's sort of, is a little
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Speaker 1: bit murky because really how much weight can you put
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Speaker 1: on the consent of a four and five-year-old saying that
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Speaker 1: they want to be on YouTube? They don't really understand
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Speaker 1: what that means. I think because this is going to
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Speaker 1: be a totally different genre of content, they perhaps feel
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Speaker 1: more comfortable because it's not going to be specifically about
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Speaker 1: the children's lives and the tantrums that they're having and
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Speaker 1: go too much into their personal details. Yes, there are
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Speaker 1: still issues around their children's faces being splashed online and
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Speaker 1: privacy and that sort of thing. But maybe they're going
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Speaker 1: to be very careful with what they share. It'll be
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Speaker 1: interesting to see what they end up sharing on YouTube.
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Speaker 1: Over the weekend, it seemed like they may have been
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Speaker 1: filming because Mitch shared that he and his sons were
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Speaker 1: out fishing. So maybe that's the first adventure that we're
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Speaker 1: going to see. It's interesting to consider how long Mitch
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Speaker 1: and Chloe have actually been offline because the last video
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Speaker 1: Chloe shared on her individual channel was back in November 2019.
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Speaker 1: So that was, of course, before the pandemic. She did
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Speaker 1: feature though on the couple's joint YouTube channel called Chloe
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Speaker 1: and Mitch. So they started that channel back in 2017
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Speaker 1: and they stopped posting on YouTube in October 2021. I
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Speaker 1: remember there was always this rumor that Chloe sang their
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Speaker 1: YouTube's theme song.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Everyone said just for some reason they envisioned her in
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Speaker 1: their head when they heard it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, at that point when they had the couple's channel,
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Speaker 1: Mitch had pretty much taken over and you could tell
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Speaker 1: that Chloe was not interested in being involved in It
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Speaker 1: was amid a lot of breakup rumors as well. And
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Speaker 1: the last video Mitch posted was actually called What I
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Speaker 1: Do in a Day with Artie. I actually think that
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Speaker 1: this is a stroke of genius. It's clear that Mitch
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Speaker 1: is going for a different type of audience. In this case,
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Speaker 1: it will likely be young dads and their kids watching it.
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Speaker 1: And I think that it's going to lead to a
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Speaker 1: lot less scrutiny.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if it was Chloe Zep starting a mommy
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Speaker 1: vlogging channel, it would be very different.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is her. This is where I'm at in life.
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Speaker 1: Matt Sikowsky has been spotted with a potential new flame
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Speaker 1: in Adelaide just months after announcing his divorce to Tammy Hambro. Kate,
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Speaker 1: this one is close to home for us. Can you
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Speaker 1: tell us more? Yeah, well, for those listeners who aren't aware,
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Speaker 1: we live in Adelaide. So when these photos emerged online
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Speaker 1: via Influencer Updates AU, I was like, hang on, I
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Speaker 1: recognize that spot. And I was like, Imagine if we
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Speaker 1: had run into them. Well, originally Influencer Updates was posting
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Speaker 1: that it was in fact in Melbourne, which made sense
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Speaker 1: because that is where Matt is from. But this new
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Speaker 1: woman is an Adelaide girl. We love an Adelaide girl.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So her name is Emily Lawson. She isn't a public
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Speaker 1: figure herself, but she has around 9,000 followers on Instagram
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Speaker 1: and 6,000 on TikTok. And it was Emily who hard
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Speaker 1: launched the relationship on her Instagram story. So she posted
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Speaker 1: a mirror selfie of her and Matt in front of
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Speaker 1: what looked like a hotel lift. She also documented their
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Speaker 1: night out together, which included dinner at Pastel Wine Bar
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Speaker 1: on O'Connell Street. It looked like a very romantic night,
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Speaker 1: which finished up with watching fireworks over the Adelaide CBD.
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Speaker 1: Matt Zukowski ended up sharing vision from the fireworks later on,
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Speaker 1: so confirmed that he was there with Emily watching them.
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Speaker 1: I can't help but feel proud that Adelaide has been
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Speaker 1: pulled into this Tammy Hembrough-Matt Zukowski story and They made
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Speaker 1: it look like a cool place to go out. Well,
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Speaker 1: it is a cool place to be. Well, Matt Zukowski
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Speaker 1: also looked incredibly tall in this photo with Emily. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if Emily is short, but he looked massive.
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Speaker 1: And I have to say, very good looking as well. Well,
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Speaker 1: he is six foot five. So I think he's going
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Speaker 1: to make most women look short. Now, as we mentioned
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Speaker 1: at the start, it didn't take long for one of
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Speaker 1: Emily's followers to give Influencer Updates AU the tip off.
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Speaker 1: So Amber broke the news on her account on Sunday morning.
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Speaker 1: And a few of Emily's friends were very excited by
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Speaker 1: her feature on the page and tagged her saying, that's
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Speaker 1: our girl. It seems to me like Emily wanted this
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Speaker 1: information out there. I wonder if Matt didn't want the
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Speaker 1: news out there though, because he's been getting quite a
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Speaker 1: good rap lately by, I don't want to say playing
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Speaker 1: the role, because I'm not saying he's putting it on,
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Speaker 1: but by assuming the role of the guy who seems
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Speaker 1: bummed out by the divorce. You know, we heard that
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Speaker 1: Tammy Hambro moved on very quickly with Bailey Smith and
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Speaker 1: You could tell on Matt's podcast that he seemed quite
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Speaker 1: sad and down in the dumps about it. But now
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Speaker 1: it's like, well, he's moved on pretty fast too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So I think if Tammy hadn't have gone public with
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Speaker 1: Bailey Smith, this would be playing out very differently and
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Speaker 1: Matt would be the villain.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now, in terms of what we know about Emily, she
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Speaker 1: is 24, which funnily enough is the same age as
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Speaker 1: Bailey Smith. So they've both moved on with younger counterparts.
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Speaker 1: Younger blondes. I have to say, she has a striking
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Speaker 1: resemblance to Tammy Hembrough. She has the same bleach blonde
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Speaker 1: hair and let's say similar body shape. Yeah, they both
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Speaker 1: got great bodies. I had a thorough look over Instagram
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Speaker 1: page for research purposes, of course, and we had a
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Speaker 1: couple of mutual friends in there, but no one that
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Speaker 1: I'm close enough with to be like, oh, hey, what's
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Speaker 1: the scoop? Well, for those who don't know, people say
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Speaker 1: that Adelaide is like a big country town where everyone
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Speaker 1: knows one another. That being said, there is a 12
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Speaker 1: year age difference between us and Emily. So I'm not
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Speaker 1: surprised that we don't have heaps of friends in common.
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Speaker 1: From having a deeper look though, she did work on
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Speaker 1: a Walt Disney cruise ship. So she's been living her
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Speaker 1: best life.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It seems like she's also gone through her own difficult
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Speaker 1: breakup this time last year. So in September, she posted
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Speaker 1: tips of things that helped her deal after dating a narcissist.
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Speaker 1: And I found that very interesting because Matt has spoken
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Speaker 1: on his podcast before about navigating narcissistic relationships. At the time,
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Speaker 1: we suggested that it seemed like it was a bit
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Speaker 1: of a dig at his relationship with Tammy. So I
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Speaker 1: wonder if that's been a bit of a topic of conversation. Again,
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Speaker 1: not saying that Tammy is a narcissist. I think after
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Speaker 1: you go through a toxic relationship and a breakup, a
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Speaker 1: lot of people label their exes as narcissists. I mean,
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Speaker 1: people don't seem to understand that you actually have to
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Speaker 1: be diagnosed as a narcissist by a psychiatrist. Like, it's
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Speaker 1: not as common as you think. And it's different to
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Speaker 1: have narcissistic tendencies than actually being a full-blown narcissist. Just
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Speaker 1: to get more of an overview of Emily's personality... Luckily
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Speaker 1: for us, she recently got involved in the unfortunately I
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Speaker 1: love trend on TikTok. So she shared that unfortunately she
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Speaker 1: loves being wine drunk, blocking people, ignoring men, oversharing. That's great.
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Speaker 1: Taking a million photos, only having hot friends and being hot.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about the last two.
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Speaker 1: There's a bit of phenocytic qualities there. It kind of
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Speaker 1: reminded me of Regina George on Mean Girls. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a bit of a joke. assuming that
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Speaker 1: Matt and Emily must've met on Raya because how else
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Speaker 1: are they crossing paths? Yeah. It seems like a pretty
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Speaker 1: common thing on that app. So for those not familiar
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Speaker 1: with Raya, it is sort of coined as the dating
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Speaker 1: app for celebrities, but let's face it. It's a lot
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Speaker 1: of Z grade celebrities. And then people say celebrities. I
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Speaker 1: think it's just a lot of people who either have
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Speaker 1: a fake following or they just get the code from
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Speaker 1: their friends.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So I'm guessing that Emily, because she has around 9,000
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Speaker 1: followers on Instagram, Maybe she's got on through that. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah. Well, Tammy is yet to comment on
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Speaker 1: her ex-husband moving on. I don't really think that she
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Speaker 1: is in a position to do so considering she was
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Speaker 1: very fast to move on with Bailey Smith herself.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Before this news broke though, Tammy hinted on her TikTok
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Speaker 1: that she was dealing with some stressful things at the moment.
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Speaker 1: So she filmed a Get Ready video with me before
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Speaker 1: attending White Fox Boutique's 12th birthday dinner. Let's take a
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Speaker 1: listen to some of what she said.
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Speaker 2: I have so much coming up and I have so
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Speaker 2: much to be grateful for. I do have like some
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Speaker 2: other stressful things that I'm dealing with, dealing with, am
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Speaker 2: I doing that right?
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Speaker 1: I'm forgetting how to speak English. I had like four
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Speaker 1: hours sleep last night, guys.
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Speaker 2: I have so much to be grateful for and so
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Speaker 2: much to be happy about and excited about. And then
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Speaker 2: on the other hand, I have like all these stresses.
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Speaker 1: Tammy went on to reveal that she did three podcast
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Speaker 1: interviews last week and she was nervous about what she said.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
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Speaker 2: Some of them, I'm like, literally, what did I say?
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Speaker 2: Like at the end of the day, I don't want
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Speaker 2: to like upset anyone. Like I just want, I just
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Speaker 2: want peace. I don't want like drama. I don't want
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Speaker 2: to hurt anyone's feelings. I don't want to upset anyone.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know what I said, guys. I got,
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Speaker 2: I got deep and I got personal. I am a
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Speaker 2: little nervous though, because I don't usually say yes to
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Speaker 2: things like that.
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Speaker 1: Like, I don't know. But I actually enjoyed it.
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Speaker 2: And you know what? It'll be fine.
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Speaker 1: I really hope she has opened up more so than
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Speaker 1: she did on No Filter, which is Mia Friedman's podcast.
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Speaker 1: Poor Mia. She's a fantastic interviewer, but she was absolutely
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Speaker 1: pulling at teeth to get any sort of answers from her.
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Speaker 1: But maybe now she's going through this breakup. It's just
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Speaker 1: like verbal diarrhea. I've got to say, I was pretty
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Speaker 1: cut when I was listening to this because Just a
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Speaker 1: bit of inside information for pulling back the curtain here.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: We actually locked in an interview with Tammy Hembrough and
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Speaker 1: her sisters that would have aired this week, but last minute,
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Speaker 1: you know, you can put timelines together. It got cut.
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Speaker 1: And putting it out there, that was an opportunity that
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Speaker 1: came to us. We didn't go out seeking that. Initially,
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Speaker 1: I was surprised that they would consider appearing on our podcast,
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Speaker 1: but Then when I thought about it, well, we have
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Speaker 1: such an engaged audience who cares about Tammy and her life.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it would have been an amazing opportunity for
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Speaker 1: her and also for us because I would have loved
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Speaker 1: to sit down with her and been like, okay, it's
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Speaker 1: time to set the record straight. Like, tell us what
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Speaker 1: you actually think about all of these things that we've
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Speaker 1: covered before. Unfortunately, that fell through right at the end.
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Speaker 1: So it is disappointing. I'm interested to see what podcast
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Speaker 1: she has appeared on. One podcast that I know of
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Speaker 1: is Jade Tunchi and Lockie Bricky's podcast called Mad About You.
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Speaker 1: Which is a safe choice because obviously Jade being a
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Speaker 1: fellow influencer, they're not really going to go too hard
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Speaker 1: on her, are they? She may tell Jade a bit though,
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Speaker 1: because I've listened to their podcast before and Jade and
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Speaker 1: Lockie are really friendly. They come across as really likeable.
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Speaker 1: And maybe it just, you know, for Tammy, she might've
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Speaker 1: felt like she was talking to friends.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's true. They probably will get the scoop with
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Speaker 1: the softly, softly approach. I'm wondering if she'll also be
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Speaker 1: on Life Uncut. Oh, 100%. I definitely think that she'll
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Speaker 1: be on there. Do you think maybe the other one
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Speaker 1: I thought of was Something to Talk About by Stella Magazine?
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Speaker 1: Maybe all the sisters will appear? Yeah, we'll probably see
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Speaker 1: a spread. That would be some good promo for their
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Speaker 1: supplements company. Well, it's clear that one of the podcast
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Speaker 1: interviews involves her and her sisters, Emily and Amy, because
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Speaker 1: They filmed themselves on Snapchat and also on TikTok sitting
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Speaker 1: at like a recording studio on a couch. And judging
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Speaker 1: by a TikTok Tammy shared, I think that Emily and
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Speaker 1: Amy probably went a bit rogue about Matt during one
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Speaker 1: of the interviews because Tammy has said how worried she
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Speaker 1: is about what got said. Well, they've got prior for
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Speaker 1: it as well. And it seems like after that interview,
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Speaker 1: you know, when you're on a bit of a high
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Speaker 1: for ragging on someone. Because Tammy's then let that spill
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Speaker 1: across onto her TikTok. So she filmed a video where
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Speaker 1: she panned across to her sisters and she wrote, I
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Speaker 1: may have let go, but my sisters will hate you forever.
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Speaker 1: With a trending sound that said, sources confirm your vibe
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Speaker 1: was weird. And yes, everyone felt it. Someone did comment
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Speaker 1: under that, I fear Amy the most, to which Emily responded,
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Speaker 1: me too, with the covering eyes emoji. Well, Matt's also
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Speaker 1: been making reference to the divorce on his own podcast.
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Speaker 1: So He recently spoke with Anna McAvoy about the Nicole
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Speaker 1: Kidman and Keith Urban divorce announcement. And they basically were
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Speaker 1: pointing out that when a divorce announcement happens, the blame
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Speaker 1: is often unfairly put on the man. And there was
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Speaker 1: also a reference to the fact that Matthew McConaughey's parents
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Speaker 1: got divorced and remarried three times. And Matt said that
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Speaker 1: definitely wouldn't be happening in his case. It was a
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Speaker 1: bit of a change of pace to have Matt and
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Speaker 1: Anna McAvoy dissecting the headlines. Like they've introduced this new
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Speaker 1: second episode of the week. And I was like, wow,
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Speaker 1: because they dissected Taylor Swift's album. And I'm like, you
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Speaker 1: clearly couldn't find two people that were less interested in
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Speaker 1: the release. I actually felt dumb listening to it. And
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Speaker 1: I know that sounds terrible, but it was quite clear
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Speaker 1: that their producer had put together a few key points
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Speaker 1: and they sort of had to ramble through the dot points.
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Speaker 1: And it was clear that they knew nothing about it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there was no research really done. I would rather them
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Speaker 1: just talk about their personal lives because I do enjoy
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Speaker 1: tuning in. But I don't really want to hear their
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Speaker 1: take on celebrity gossip, particularly if they're not actually interested
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Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, I think that it seems like an
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Speaker 1: easy thing to do, but it's actually not, particularly when
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Speaker 1: you have podcasts like Shameless that do such a good
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Speaker 1: job of it. It's like you can't compete in that space.
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Speaker 1: People just want to hear your advice on dating and
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Speaker 1: your relationship. That's what your podcast is. I understand people
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Speaker 1: can branch out, but it's sort of a very competitive industry.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, it just because I listen to a lot
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Speaker 1: of pop culture podcasts, it just the comparison was quite glaring.
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Speaker 1: I have to admit, I do tune in every week.
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Speaker 1: And while my motivation mostly is to get content for
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Speaker 1: this podcast and be across what's happening in the Tammy Hembrough,
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Speaker 1: Matt Sikowsky sphere, I do enjoy it. Like it's an
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Speaker 1: easy listen. And on Tuesday, I had to laugh to
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Speaker 1: myself because Matt revealed that he's been recycling plastic bottles
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Speaker 1: and cans from his office in a bid to save
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Speaker 1: up for a trip to Europe. And I thought that
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Speaker 1: was very brave of him to talk about because it
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Speaker 1: made it seem like he has a lot of financial
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Speaker 1: stresses going on. And it was in complete contrast to
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Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough's life where she's worth $ 50 million. Let's take
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Speaker 1: a listen to what he said.
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Speaker 4: You know how now they do the 10 cents for
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Speaker 4: cans and bottles? Yeah, this is where I'm at in life.
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Speaker 4: This is where I'm at.
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Speaker 1: So for those unaware, Matt does a nine to five
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Speaker 1: job alongside his podcast and influencing career. So he is
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Speaker 1: a project manager for his dad's pool company. And he
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Speaker 1: told Anna McAvoy that their office manager decided it was
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Speaker 1: cheaper to purchase slabs of bottled water rather than getting
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Speaker 1: a water fountain fitted in the office. And he decided
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Speaker 1: he would collect the bottles and cash them in to
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Speaker 1: make some extra money. Let's take a listen to more
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Speaker 1: of what he said.
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Speaker 4: So I go around with a bag and I like
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Speaker 4: shake it for everyone and they put their bottles in
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Speaker 4: there and I say, thanks guys, you're paying for my
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Speaker 4: Europe trip, blah, blah, blah. So I have four big
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Speaker 4: garbage bags of like plastic bottles and cans that I
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Speaker 4: collected from the office, right? People in the office were
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Speaker 4: getting annoyed. They're like, you can't just leave them here, blah, blah, blah.
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Speaker 4: So I was like, all right. So I took them
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Speaker 4: into the place. Have you been there before?
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Speaker 1: I don't even know what this place is. Explain it.
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Speaker 4: So it's like a recycle plant. I had to Google
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Speaker 4: it where it was and you're like- And they pay you? Yeah,
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Speaker 4: they give you 10 cents for each bottle.
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Speaker 1: You're going to need to collect a lot of bottles
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Speaker 1: if you're going to Europe. Now, Matt did leave very
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Speaker 1: disappointed because he thought that four bags of plastic bottles
16:20
Speaker 1: would get him around $ 400, but it ended up just
16:23
Speaker 1: being 90. And he said that it wasn't worth the effort.
16:27
Speaker 1: I was pretty shocked when I heard Anna McAvoy say
16:29
Speaker 1: that she didn't know you could cash in your bottles
16:31
Speaker 1: and cans for 10 cents. It turns out, though, that
16:34
Speaker 1: the container deposit scheme has only been in place in
16:36
Speaker 1: Victoria since 2023. Oh, really? I didn't know that it
16:40
Speaker 1: wasn't in place in Melbourne because as kids, I remember
16:42
Speaker 1: we were swapping cans and bottles. It must have been
16:45
Speaker 1: in place for a lot longer in South Australia. Yeah,
16:47
Speaker 1: so in South Australia, we've had it in place since 1977,
16:51
Speaker 1: and the other states have also had it in place
16:53
Speaker 1: for a fairly long time. It's just been Victoria who
16:55
Speaker 1: haven't had it. Oh, Gives a bit more context to
16:58
Speaker 1: Matt's story as to perhaps why he's so excited to
17:00
Speaker 1: collect the cans.
17:00
Speaker 4: Yeah.
17:01
Speaker 1: And it's more of a novelty. It's a bit of
17:02
Speaker 1: a letdown for him though, because this time last year
17:05
Speaker 1: he was getting set to marry a woman worth 50
17:08
Speaker 1: plus million dollars. And now he's having to scrounge around
17:10
Speaker 1: for cans to fund his Europe trip. To be fair
17:12
Speaker 1: to Matt, it is a noble thing to do in
17:14
Speaker 1: the sense that it's good for the planet. And who
17:17
Speaker 1: couldn't use a bit of extra cash? I mean, we
17:19
Speaker 1: have a recycling bin at our house that we put
17:20
Speaker 1: all our cans and bottles in. We take them down
17:22
Speaker 1: to the depot. Look, he's becoming one of the people,
17:24
Speaker 1: isn't he? One of the people. He's exchanging cans for
17:28
Speaker 1: money and dating an Adelaide girl.
17:30
Speaker 6: So there has been a lot going on with me
17:33
Speaker 6: and lots of headlines that we'll address today too.
17:35
Speaker 1: Skye Wheatley has opened up about her much publicized breakup
17:40
Speaker 1: from baby daddy Lockie Waugh. The former Big Brother contestant
17:43
Speaker 1: has backtracked describing the situation as relationship limbo and admitted
17:47
Speaker 1: they plan to work things out So if this has
17:50
Speaker 1: come as a surprise to her followers, as only a
17:52
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, she confirmed the split on her Instagram live. Yeah,
17:55
Speaker 1: and what a memorable Instagram live it was. She was
17:58
Speaker 1: holidaying at an Airbnb on the Sunshine Coast with her
18:01
Speaker 1: two kids when she broke the news to her followers.
18:04
Speaker 1: Now in the live, she confirmed that the couple had
18:06
Speaker 1: broken up and even responded to a follower who asked
18:09
Speaker 1: if Lockie had cheated on her saying, I don't know, maybe.
18:14
Speaker 1: She also confirmed in that live that she and Lockie
18:16
Speaker 1: would still be finishing off their extensive renovations together, which
18:20
Speaker 1: they have been documenting for the past six years. Now,
18:24
Speaker 1: Skye was acting quite erratically during that live, so much
18:28
Speaker 1: so that some of her followers were convinced that she
18:30
Speaker 1: was intoxicated. But she later confirmed in the comment section
18:34
Speaker 1: that she was in fact sober whilst filming that live. Yeah. Well,
18:38
Speaker 1: I'm glad that she clarified what was going on. Now,
18:40
Speaker 1: a few days on from this breakup announcement, Lockie was
18:43
Speaker 1: spotted in the background of one of Skye's friends' Instagram stories. Now,
18:47
Speaker 1: in the photo, Skye and her friend were cheersing beers
18:50
Speaker 1: at her home, while Lockie was in the background also
18:53
Speaker 1: holding a beer. This led followers to speculate that perhaps
18:56
Speaker 1: they were working on things. Now, off the back of
18:59
Speaker 1: the speculation, Skye uploaded a podcast called Let's Talk Past Breakups.
19:05
Speaker 1: And a lot of people assumed she would be talking
19:07
Speaker 1: about her situation with Lockie. She briefly touched on the
19:10
Speaker 1: fact that they've gone through a lot of breaks and
19:13
Speaker 1: that she had posed the question recently to Lockie that
19:16
Speaker 1: could they go on a break for six months? And
19:18
Speaker 1: he said, well, we may as well break up. But
19:21
Speaker 1: the majority of the episode was actually about Skye's breakup
19:24
Speaker 1: with her boyfriend before Lockie called Cam. And also her
19:27
Speaker 1: co-host Callum spoke a lot about his breakups.
19:30
Speaker 2: Yeah.
19:31
Speaker 1: Well, I think that there must have been a lot
19:33
Speaker 1: of listeners writing in saying, hey, what's happening here? You've
19:36
Speaker 1: teased us that you're going to talk about this breakup.
19:37
Speaker 1: What's going on? Because this week she released an episode
19:41
Speaker 1: entitled Sky Addresses the Lockie Breakup Rumors. Now, I want
19:45
Speaker 1: to provide some visual context because during this podcast recording,
19:49
Speaker 1: Sky was randomly wearing a pink wig and she said
19:52
Speaker 1: it was because it's Halloween month and it fits into
19:56
Speaker 1: the spooky theme. Now, I want to address that because
19:58
Speaker 1: she does mention the wig in a grab that we
19:59
Speaker 1: are going to play later on. I was thrown by
20:01
Speaker 1: what she was wearing because she's come out and said
20:03
Speaker 1: all these, you know, newsworthy things about her breakup and
20:06
Speaker 1: she didn't look like herself. Well, is it because when
20:08
Speaker 1: people go through a breakup, they change their hair? She's
20:10
Speaker 1: trying to do something dramatic. Now, off the bat, I
20:14
Speaker 1: want to point out that I thought it was pretty
20:16
Speaker 1: ridiculous that they were calling these breakup rumors. It's a
20:19
Speaker 1: bit cheeky because the only person who fired up these
20:21
Speaker 1: rumors was Skye herself. Because She obviously jumped in her
20:25
Speaker 1: life and flat out said that they'd broken up. So
20:27
Speaker 1: they're not rumors. You confirmed the breakup. Well, I suppose
20:30
Speaker 1: she was addressing rumors that were already out there because
20:32
Speaker 1: she hadn't posted with Lockie for quite some time, but
20:35
Speaker 1: she's confirmed the rumor. Anyway, she ended up telling her
20:39
Speaker 1: listeners that she was going to address the rumors head on.
20:42
Speaker 1: But from there, she lost me. It got very confusing
20:45
Speaker 1: because while she did confirm that the breakup took place,
20:49
Speaker 1: she said that she and Lockie are now just on
20:51
Speaker 1: a break. with the idea that they will work things out. Okay.
20:55
Speaker 1: So let's have a listen to some of what she said.
20:58
Speaker 6: Basically, you heard it here first, there has been a breakup,
21:04
Speaker 6: but then like we've been co-parenting and this is like
21:07
Speaker 6: the longest we've gone.
21:10
Speaker 5: Separated.
21:11
Speaker 1: Yeah.
21:12
Speaker 6: Because normally we'll have like little breaks, you know, because
21:15
Speaker 6: there's been a lot on both our plates.
21:16
Speaker 5: We're both stressed with work. We've got two young children.
21:20
Speaker 6: Trying to navigate two young boys and a renovation plus
21:24
Speaker 6: our own businesses, like it's been very stressful. And I
21:27
Speaker 6: think it's very hard to understand each other sometimes. So, yeah,
21:33
Speaker 6: we'll usually have little breaks so we can just like,
21:35
Speaker 6: you know, reset and then we usually come back. But
21:39
Speaker 6: this has definitely been the longest co-parenting.
21:42
Speaker 5: Split slash break we've ever had. I think we did
21:45
Speaker 5: get super close there.
21:47
Speaker 6: To ending it and calling it quits. But maybe I
21:54
Speaker 6: freaked out a little bit and I was like, oh
21:56
Speaker 6: my God, I just don't know if I can go
21:58
Speaker 6: through this right now.
22:00
Speaker 1: So essentially reading between the lines, it sounds like things
22:02
Speaker 1: have been rocky for quite some time for the couple
22:05
Speaker 1: and that they've been on a couple of breaks, but
22:08
Speaker 1: maybe one of their recent arguments got so out of
22:10
Speaker 1: hand that the sky went public with it and now
22:13
Speaker 1: she's having to backtrack a bit. Well, she confirmed on
22:15
Speaker 1: the podcast that she was the one who initiated the
22:17
Speaker 1: breakup and said that she was the one who was
22:19
Speaker 1: pretty firm and strong with keeping it that way. But
22:23
Speaker 1: since then, she's said she's had a full mental breakdown
22:25
Speaker 1: and freak out over it. Yeah, because she said that
22:27
Speaker 1: the breakup actually coincided with a falling out with a
22:30
Speaker 1: friend and she didn't feel strong enough to go through
22:33
Speaker 1: both a friendship bust up and also a breakup. So
22:36
Speaker 1: now she and Lockie have decided to try and work
22:39
Speaker 1: through it and go to couples counselling. Well, it's not
22:41
Speaker 1: the first time they've actually been to couples counselling. We
22:44
Speaker 1: have discussed it on our podcast. I think it was
22:46
Speaker 1: like a year or so ago. But basically, when Skye
22:50
Speaker 1: and Lockie were trying to find a psychologist to help
22:53
Speaker 1: with their son, Forrest, the psychologist actually said... hearing you
22:57
Speaker 1: guys interact, you guys need to go to a couple's counsellor.
23:00
Speaker 1: Drumming up some business with a psychologist there. Yeah, but
23:03
Speaker 1: Skye said she felt like that the counsellor they spoke
23:06
Speaker 1: to was always on Lockie's side. And then they found
23:08
Speaker 1: one that was more neutral, but it seems like they've probably,
23:11
Speaker 1: you know, not gone as much as they should have.
23:13
Speaker 1: I found it quite difficult listening to that grab because
23:17
Speaker 1: it seems like they're just trying to stay together for
23:19
Speaker 1: the sake of the house and also their kids. But
23:22
Speaker 1: surely the kids would be picking up on that negative tension,
23:25
Speaker 1: particularly because she said that they're not really talking to
23:28
Speaker 1: each other. I think they're putting a bit of a
23:29
Speaker 1: patch over everything at the moment until the house is done.
23:32
Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like. I want to get back
23:34
Speaker 1: to her mention of a friendship bust up because there
23:37
Speaker 1: has been a lot of speculation that this friendship breakdown
23:40
Speaker 1: is between her and her business partner, Tori. So Tori
23:43
Speaker 1: is a fellow influencer and they run Good People Apparel together. Now,
23:48
Speaker 1: originally when the breakup news broke, Tori appeared to throw
23:51
Speaker 1: shade at Lockie. So She wrote, when you're a girl's girl,
23:54
Speaker 1: so now I've got more beef with her ex than
23:57
Speaker 1: she ever did. The post continued saying he really thought
24:00
Speaker 1: he could talk to her crazy, but forgot her besties
24:03
Speaker 1: from the West and I don't let shit slide. She
24:06
Speaker 1: then hashtagged it breakup humor. Now Sky replied to the
24:09
Speaker 1: video writing, that's my girl. So I don't know what
24:12
Speaker 1: has gone down since because They have now unfollowed each
24:15
Speaker 1: other on socials. So I don't know what this means
24:18
Speaker 1: for the future of their clothing brand. I mean, it's
24:20
Speaker 1: really sad because they've been friends for a long time.
24:22
Speaker 1: Not good timing. Now, back to the breakup. During the
24:26
Speaker 1: podcast interview, Callum started talking about how the media has
24:30
Speaker 1: really blown everything out of proportion and he couldn't believe
24:33
Speaker 1: the reaction to the Instagram stories that Lockie shared of
24:36
Speaker 1: him burning boxes on the couple's property. Now, these stories
24:39
Speaker 1: were shot from Lockie's perspective at nighttime. So he was
24:42
Speaker 1: at their property and And in the vision, he was
24:44
Speaker 1: drinking whilst walking through the empty house. And he stopped
24:48
Speaker 1: at the kitchen where there were a ton of boxes
24:50
Speaker 1: stacked up. In the next Instagram story, he was then
24:53
Speaker 1: outside dramatically setting fire to another lot of boxes. And
24:58
Speaker 1: at the time, it was quite confusing because there was
25:00
Speaker 1: no context as to what was in the boxes. And
25:03
Speaker 1: he was blaring a love song in the background. So
25:06
Speaker 1: many people wondered whether Skye's possessions were in those boxes
25:10
Speaker 1: because it came off the back of her essentially accusing
25:13
Speaker 1: him of cheating on her in her Instagram live, whilst
25:16
Speaker 1: a lot of other people said, oh, it looks like
25:18
Speaker 1: he's just doing a bit of a routine burn off.
25:20
Speaker 1: We burn rubbish on our property from time to time.
25:23
Speaker 1: But let's have a listen to what Callum said.
25:27
Speaker 3: But like the media blows everything out of proportion. Oh
25:30
Speaker 3: my God, there was a video of Lockie like putting
25:32
Speaker 3: some cardboard on fire or some paper on fire and
25:34
Speaker 3: all of a sudden like the world's ending and there's
25:36
Speaker 3: like a full breakup and all this. I'm like, they've
25:38
Speaker 3: probably just got junk and they need to burn because
25:40
Speaker 3: they got so much shit in their renovations.
25:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, we do, we do.
25:43
Speaker 1: Now, I thought this was where Sky was going to
25:45
Speaker 1: jump in and try to talk the Instagram stories down.
25:48
Speaker 1: But instead she said this.
25:51
Speaker 5: No, he was not burning my clothes on the fields.
25:54
Speaker 5: They were probably.
25:55
Speaker 4: Just your hair.
25:56
Speaker 5: Probably just some wigs. He was like, fuck this pink one.
26:00
Speaker 5: I don't like that color.
26:01
Speaker 2: No, I don't.
26:02
Speaker 5: But like the timing of it wasn't right. And I
26:05
Speaker 5: don't know if he.
26:06
Speaker 6: Knew that there was a lot of media watching our
26:09
Speaker 6: profiles at the time. But I'm like, wow, your timing
26:13
Speaker 6: was impeccable there.
26:15
Speaker 5: Like that was good timing.
26:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
26:18
Speaker 1: Now, we covered the story on our podcast and created
26:21
Speaker 1: a subsequent reel off the back of what we said.
26:24
Speaker 1: And in it, we said we found it quite disturbing
26:26
Speaker 1: because it was unclear what he was burning and it
26:28
Speaker 1: seemed to be off the back of Sky igniting cheating rumors. Now,
26:32
Speaker 1: the comment section blew up and people were not happy
26:35
Speaker 1: with what we said. People were sticking up for Lockie saying, oh,
26:37
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. He's just clearly doing a burn off on
26:40
Speaker 1: his property like he normally does. It's interesting, though, that
26:43
Speaker 1: Sky also thought it didn't look that innocent or that
26:46
Speaker 1: the timing of it looked bad. Like, I felt a
26:48
Speaker 1: bit more vindicated. Yeah, essentially she was saying that it
26:51
Speaker 1: appeared like Lockie was trying to send some sort of message.
26:54
Speaker 1: I mean, it really did. And the media tension around
26:56
Speaker 1: this breakup has rattled Sky, and she said that going forward,
27:00
Speaker 1: if they inevitably do break up, they'll most likely have
27:03
Speaker 1: to go to court, whether it's over the kids or
27:05
Speaker 1: the property. And she really is wondering whether she'll be
27:09
Speaker 1: able to stand up the whole press attention and also
27:11
Speaker 1: social media watching her every move, it really does sound
27:15
Speaker 1: like they are just trying to be amicable at the
27:18
Speaker 1: moment for obviously the sake of the kids, but more
27:20
Speaker 1: so for the house and getting it finished. Because once
27:23
Speaker 1: it's finished, I assume that they can work out whether
27:25
Speaker 1: they want to sell it or not. Surely with Lockheed. Yeah,
27:28
Speaker 1: but surely they can get people in to finish the
27:29
Speaker 1: renovations off and live separately. Well, it seems like it's
27:32
Speaker 1: a bit of a financial decision because there were reports
27:35
Speaker 1: that recently that Lockie's shop fitting business went under, there
27:39
Speaker 1: was some nasty court dispute. So perhaps they don't have
27:41
Speaker 1: the money to finish off the rent. We'll get someone
27:43
Speaker 1: else to finish off the renos for them. Well, the
27:45
Speaker 1: renos have been dragging on for six years and I
27:47
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if it was another year or two
27:49
Speaker 1: before they're done. Well, it doesn't seem to be good
27:51
Speaker 1: for Skye's mental health because she said that while they're
27:54
Speaker 1: eventually going to try and work things out, that she's
27:56
Speaker 1: just not happy. She said in the past year, her
27:59
Speaker 1: friends have said she doesn't seem like herself and that
28:01
Speaker 1: her light has been dimmed. She said it's got to
28:04
Speaker 1: the point where she doesn't want to get up in
28:05
Speaker 1: the morning and film content or show up online because
28:08
Speaker 1: she feels so sad and depressed and like it's all
28:11
Speaker 1: too much. So she doesn't seem to be in a
28:12
Speaker 1: very healthy mindset at the moment, which is very sad.
28:15
Speaker 1: She also sent further mixed messages over the weekend when
28:19
Speaker 1: she posted two conflicting TikTok videos. So in the first video,
28:24
Speaker 1: Sky and Lockie appeared to be back together. They were
28:27
Speaker 1: putting a bed together in one of their newly renovated rooms.
28:30
Speaker 1: In saying that, there was a fair bit of arguing
28:33
Speaker 1: in the video. Let's throw to a snippet of what
28:35
Speaker 1: they said. No, but we fixed the corner thing.
28:39
Speaker 4: Some things are better left unsaid. Okay.
28:41
Speaker 1: Do you understand that?
28:42
Speaker 6: Okay, see, see how you're speaking?
28:44
Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
28:45
Speaker 3: It's me. No, it's because.
28:47
Speaker 1: The.
28:47
Speaker 2: Approach, darling. But look how you're reacting.
28:50
Speaker 1: No, I'm coming down to your level. Approach, you make
28:53
Speaker 1: me feel like an idiot.
28:55
Speaker 3: Unsaid.
28:55
Speaker 2: Okay, see, it's giving attitude.
28:58
Speaker 1: Giving a bit of attitude some things are better off why.
29:01
Speaker 2: Don't you go babe you're so cute but don't don't
29:06
Speaker 2: discuss with an agent any of the problems.
29:09
Speaker 1: That's all you need to say okay okay let's make
29:13
Speaker 1: the bed i found the whole thing really awkward because
29:16
Speaker 1: it seemed like an attempt for sky to demonstrate to
29:19
Speaker 1: her audience locky undermining her but i mean when you
29:22
Speaker 1: are filming the content and uploading it, you have the
29:25
Speaker 1: power to manipulate that video, how you see fit. If anything,
29:27
Speaker 1: I actually felt a bit sorry for Lockie because she
29:30
Speaker 1: was the one firing up at him. Following the little
29:33
Speaker 1: spat that they had, they then jumped into bed together
29:36
Speaker 1: and had a bit of a cuddle at the end
29:38
Speaker 1: of the video. So it, very much looked like they
29:41
Speaker 1: were back on. Well, Sky had to jump in the
29:43
Speaker 1: comments and confirm that the video was pre-recorded before the
29:46
Speaker 1: breakup and she was just sharing it now, which seems
29:49
Speaker 1: a bit odd.
29:49
Speaker 4: Yeah.
29:50
Speaker 1: Well, because a couple of hours later, she posted another
29:53
Speaker 1: TikTok miming to this. Now, the text on the video read,
30:01
Speaker 1: is he cheating? And she then shared a hack of
30:03
Speaker 1: how to check your partner's recently deleted conversation history on
30:07
Speaker 1: their phone. She added, don't be naive, sis, with a
30:10
Speaker 1: crying and melting face. Now, one follower called Belle wrote, girl,
30:14
Speaker 1: are you trying to say something? And she responded saying, nah,
30:18
Speaker 1: I just want me girly pops to be safe with
30:20
Speaker 1: love hearts. I don't know if I believe that. It
30:22
Speaker 1: seems very pointed. It was at this point when fellow
30:25
Speaker 1: influencer Bella Messina entered the chat. So, Bella recently separated
30:30
Speaker 1: from her husband, Adrian. They have two kids together and
30:34
Speaker 1: she wrote, can vouch that this feature can be very helpful.
30:38
Speaker 1: So that shone a little bit of light on what
30:40
Speaker 1: has been going on behind the scenes with Bella and Adrian.
30:44
Speaker 1: So much shade being thrown. If you were Lockie, you
30:46
Speaker 1: would be so pissed off by this video because she's
30:49
Speaker 1: trying to ignite cheating rumours once again. I mean, if
30:53
Speaker 1: that was me and I was currently living with my
30:55
Speaker 1: on and off again boyfriend that we have two kids with,
30:58
Speaker 1: we're trying to put on happy faces for the kids
31:00
Speaker 1: whilst doing a renovation, I don't think that putting that
31:03
Speaker 1: information out there is going to make the situation any better,
31:06
Speaker 1: is it? I wonder if she's taking a leaf out
31:08
Speaker 1: of Tammy Hembrough's book and this is all just a
31:10
Speaker 1: quest for engagement on TikTok. Well, it's definitely working because
31:13
Speaker 1: everyone is very interested in it. Now, I think that
31:16
Speaker 1: is all we have time for today. Thank you so
31:17
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31:42
Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on the traditional land of the
31:45
Speaker 1: Kaurna people of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to
31:48
Speaker 1: elders past and present.