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E29: Pornography: Pleasure, Peril, and the Modern Mind · The Junto Podcast

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Hello, America. Welcome to the Junto Podcast, where we promote the practical
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applications of critical thinking and bold creativity.
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I am your host, Edgar Mills. Thanks for joining.
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Hello, America. Welcome to episode 29 of the JUTO podcast.
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Thank you for staying with me. So what are we talking about today?
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Yep. Crazy topic. Crazy topic.
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It's in many of our lives, as we'll see here as we go. And it's very complex. Pornography.
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Yeah. Pornography is a, It's pervasive in our world,
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And generally it's frowned upon by Some sections of society and,
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Celebrated by others But what I'm trying to do here This is neither an endorsement
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or indictment I'm just trying to bring some objective perspective To see what To see,
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you know, try to parse it out a little bit I don't know, I'm trying to exercise
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a little critical thinking while still maintaining what I consider to be some
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faith and all kinds of things like that.
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So again, as with everything I do and talk about,
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I want you to think about these things as they affect your life and without
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judgment and without moral judgment or any personal judgment,
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just be objective about the way you look at it.
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So man, pornography, That's a big one There's a lot of stuff going on,
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Pornography has been around since I don't know In my studies What I'm finding
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here Is at least 35,000 years.
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Yeah, 35,000 years, there's artifacts depicting some form of sensual, sexual behavior.
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And we know that the ancient Greeks and Romans and Mesopotamian and all those,
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there's a lot of, especially in art, right?
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Well, and we'll discuss here later on the fine line between art and porn,
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but yeah, it's been around.
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It's been around for a long time As it progressed, as history Kind of went on,
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You know, we had to end the.
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In the Renaissance periods, and when painting and oil painting started becoming
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a thing, and as artists, I don't know, grew and developed, more and more explicit
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material was coming out.
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And what was explicit for the times anyway, but sometimes very explicit,
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you know, sometimes very explicit.
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And then photography came along. Oh, man.
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When photography came along, it got crazy, right?
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You started seeing pictures of old-school prostitutes and madams.
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And never mind film. Never mind film.
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It's been around. It's been around for a long time. And then,
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oh my God, here we are. Well, let's talk about the 20th century.
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When video came around, there's probably the very first films to be filmed were probably explicit.
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And some of them are out there. Some of them have been have been remastered
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and preserved and stuff like that.
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But what what happened?
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There was there was a thing in the 60s and 70s. They call it the sexual revolution, right?
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In 1972, the film Deep Throat. Now, many people may not know know about that, but that was.
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Maybe the first pornographic film to be released in mainstream theaters and.
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Then it went crazy from there. And then VHS came along. Then in the mid-90s,
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we had the internet came along. Yep, the internet.
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And nowadays, I mean, there isn't a pornographic subject or category that can't be explored.
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Yeah, it's out there. It's everywhere. For good or bad. For good or bad. It's out there.
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So first, I'm going to explore what are some of the benefits of consuming pornography.
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Now, I'm not trying to alienate. I'm sure a lot of my listeners are Christians.
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I'm not trying to alienate you. Stay with me. Stay with me.
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But you're going to hear a few key words throughout this, all right?
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Moderate use of pornography for, you know, spicing up the bedroom or whatnot.
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Yeah, moderate use. You can, you and your wife or husband, you can spice it up.
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And if you're a moderate person, and if you're a sane and stable human,
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you can enjoy it for what it is.
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It's just sort of visual stimulus.
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It's okay.
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And there's so much out there to choose from that, you know,
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there's pornography that targets couples.
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There's very romantic depictions of things. Now, I don't want to get a lot into
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content because there's something, you know, it's all out there.
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But, you know, if you're kind of chubby, you know, and you're looking at some
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chubby porn, and you're like, oh, yeah, well, you can, body acceptance is what
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I'm getting about, right?
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You start to see that there's other humans out there like you enjoying things
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like sex. You don't have to be a recluse or whatever.
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What else? I mean, stress relief. Yeah.
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Sometimes you just rub one out and that's relaxing. So there are some benefits.
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And now how deep do those benefits go? We don't know. Let's see.
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I'd say that if you and your wife, you and your lover, you and your husband,
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you explore a little bit in the bedroom, you know, try some new things.
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In a healthy way, try some new things.
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It might help you open up the conversation a little bit where you might have
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been embarrassed to talk about a thing.
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You know, you watch it on the video there, and you're like, oh,
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what do you think about that? And it might open it up a little bit.
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And there are some surveys out there that people talk that kind of link a little
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bit of sexual well-being,
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a little bit of improvement in young women, oddly enough.
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Now, mind you, I'm going to keep going back and saying mentally and emotionally stable people.
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Yeah, you can explore some curiosities. You can even use it for education,
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you know, sex education in some degrees to help you and your husband and wife,
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you know, achieve orgasm even.
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Now, obviously, there's a fine line there, fine line.
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So those are just a few things, and those are legitimate things.
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If in a small number of the population, who knows?
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Excuse me. So, and I've always been on the side of, look, folks, I'll be honest with you.
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I still consume porn a little bit here and there.
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I've always enjoyed art. I'm a big fan of art.
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And erotic art is enjoyable. I like it. I like to see the different artists',
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styles and takes, and if it's a little sexual, whatever. And...
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And I've always thought about that. I've always been an individualist.
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And even before I was a Christian, I thought, I've always thought that I had
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a very healthy position on that.
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But we all know that there are multiple, multiple deep and severe risks to porn
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consumption, health risks.
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And I'm not talking about gaining weight. I'm talking about like anxiety and
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depression and general instability in your relationship.
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Yeah. This stuff, depending on your rate and extreme consumption,
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might create, well, it does.
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It changes the neuropathways in your brain.
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It creates different. And so along with this anxiety or depression,
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you know, you might have developed some, I don't know, misogyny and sexism.
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Mostly, well, I don't know about mostly, but a lot in porn is,
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you know, women are sort of objects.
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There's a lot of violent porn out, folks.
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Well, there's a lot of all kinds. I keep trying to refrain from the content. There's so much.
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We could be here for a 48-hour, 72-hour marathon Talking about the content of
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the different pornography out there.
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But look, it's a definite, definite, well-documented fact that the earlier,
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if youth, the earlier you're exposed to porn, the more likely you are to have
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behavioral issues and like long-term, deeply ingrained issues like misogyny,
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like violence toward women.
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Yeah, it's out there. That stuff, you can't deny that that exists.
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You can i'm just saying consumption but really addiction right that's what changes
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the brain now we're talking about porn you can be addicted to alcohol or gambling
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or you can be addicted to a lot of things and if you have an addictive personality
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i mean likely chances are you will be addicted.
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But what this addiction and this overconsumption of porn does is it kind of
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rewires your brain's reward system, right?
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And just like drugs, you need more and more.
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And then it needs to be more and more extreme because this thing that you like
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that's not doing it anymore, so you need more and more and more.
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And that's how addiction works.
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Yeah, that's how it creates neurological shifts in your brain.
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Now in today's age man it's
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difficult they're on the internet like your
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kids out there in the wild even
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if you don't let them have phones which you shouldn't by the
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way one of their friends has a phone and
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if their parents are irresponsible and they don't
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have any child blocks on that phone you know there's somebody out there showing
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your kid i don't care what age you're talking about if they're in a public school
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even private school some kid is showing them some wildly inappropriate shit
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you have to be aware of that it exists folks it exists and it's happening.
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So be very mindful of that because once they're hooked once they're addicted
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it don't matter again if it's porn if it's drugs or whatever that begins a life
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of problematic behavior,
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we talked about the anxiety and depression but then
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extreme sort of what's the word i'm looking for expectations on body types like
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of your own body you know you watch porn out there and there's some 25 year
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old dude who's ripped and has a 10 inch penis you know and you're looking at
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yourself like whoa whoa whoa am i normal i'm.
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Right. If you got some 12 year old kid seeing that and he's like,
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oh, my God, is that normal?
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Well, is it? And not just in boys, especially in women. Right.
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The porn has shaped the modern society in such a way that women pay lots of
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money these days to alter themselves to essentially look like porn stars.
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You got the lips and the ass lifts and the big boobs and the,
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and the tans and the paint on eyebrows and all that shit and the ridiculous
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clothes, all that is to mimic what,
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I don't know, probably in the, in the eighties and nineties was,
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they tried to glamorize porn,
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you know, to, to the point that it seemed, yeah, glamorous.
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And in these days, now you got women who pay big money to look like this.
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Do they act like that? I don't know. Maybe.
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Maybe not. I don't know. But it creates these mental issues that have deep and
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lasting impact, folks. Deep and lasting impact.
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And there's study after study. Look, I'm reading notes right now.
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But every point I'm making, there's like four studies attached to it from mentalhealth.com or...
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A study by Veer and Griffiths, IFS and Perry, 2025, Culture Reframed, 2023.
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There's so many studies, which is, it's not bizarre. It makes sense because
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we're always trying to find the sources of behavior problems,
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of criminal activity, of all that.
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And again, I go back to childhood. Early exposure by
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children will increase and distort their view of the opposite sex and objectification
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and then risky behaviors from boys and girls.
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And what's a trigger for that? Anybody?
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Anybody? Yeah, early childhood trauma and sexual abuse.
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When your shithead uncle wants to put his penis in your butthole when you're
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eight years old, you're going to be, you're going to be impacted by that mentally and psychologically.
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Yeah. Early childhood trauma, sexual abuse, then leads to, or can lead to early
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exposure or may have, that might have been a part of the exposure to pornography.
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And then you grow up trying to wonder why you're all fucked up.
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Protect your kids, good people. Protect them at all costs.
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The kids are vulnerable. We know this. We'll elaborate on it here in a little bit.
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Relationships, man. So some of this, like I said, there's some porn out there
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that's couple-based porn. You know, it's all romantic and stuff.
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But there's a lot that's very violent and very objectifying.
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And then could this have an effect on your empathy and the way you view your partner? It could.
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Could overconsumption of pornography have an effect on your ability to have satisfying sex?
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What you know at
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some point your kinks and fetishes expand beyond
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what your mate is able to or
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willing to to uh do with you
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or for you and couldn't that trigger some a little resentment or aggression
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even yeah yeah so it could have effect and never mind what if you're sneaking
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and sneaking around and watching porn and hiding it and then your wife finds out.
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Yeah, that can have an effect on your relationship, can't it?
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Maybe that's a discussion that needs to be had.
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So the psychology of pornography is it affects you as a consumer,
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right? The way you consume pornography.
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It has, well, it probably is triggered by some early traumas or early exposure.
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And then it can have long-term mental
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health impacts ultimately affecting your
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relationships with with anyone but especially women and if you're already married
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and it might be having an effect on your on your relationship as you're married
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so there's a deeper there's deeper psychology there that that and it has been studied in depth folks.
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What about, nevermind the psychology of the consumers, what about the performers?
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What about them? You know, in the past few, three, you know,
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maybe three decades or so, there's, you know, a push to normalize or to legitimize sex work.
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And there's different sides of that. That's a whole nother conversation. That's nuanced as well.
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But generally speaking, if we look at the mental health and the past traumas of the performers,
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we can see that there is a very abnormally high rate of sexual abuse as a child.
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Abnormally high instances of depression.
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And there's even post-traumatic stress, not just from childhood, but for performing.
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There has been countless porn stars who have come out with, you know,
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I was going to go do this scene and they were going to pay me 200 bucks and
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it was supposed to be this. And then the next thing you know, it was this.
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Right. And it was violent or something that she didn't agree to.
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But in the moment, you know, didn't
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have the, you know, didn't have the constitution to resist or whatever.
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And then never mind the high drug use and things like that.
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But I want you to understand that when you look at these people who are performing
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from your place of superiority and moral high ground, you just understand that
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some of these people are damaged.
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Yeah, some of these people are damaged and have some deeply ingrained psychological
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and emotional issues that they have not been able to overcome.
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Of trauma in that industry, folks. Now, well, let's continue on. Let's continue on.
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You know, and in that, I said, when you're looking at them from your place of
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superiority, there is to some degree a stigma on these people.
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Yeah. Are they making a choice? They're making the choice, but they have stigma.
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Some of them are, some of them may be involuntarily doing these things.
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Some of them may have substance abuse. Yeah, that's widespread there.
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So be mindful of that. Be mindful of that.
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The industry itself, though, I think we can all agree that it's probably pretty dirty.
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And I don't mean sexually dirty. I mean dirty like morally bankrupt.
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Well, definitely that. But the way people treat other people.
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And I'm not saying this forever. There's probably some great people in the porn industry, I imagine.
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Just like any other industry, there's shitbags and good people.
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You could say the same about law enforcement or anything. You could say the same about anything.
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But I understand that that probably the vast majority of people participating
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in that industry were probably damaged emotionally in some way,
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mentally in some way, or just on substance abuse.
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And we'll get into the involuntary stuff in a little bit.
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Now, there's a small segment of that industry that kind of promote,
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you know, women empowerment and try to highlight the positive health trends.
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You know, the couples therapy would watch them porn together,
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things like that, and try to show some empowerment.
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But that is a very small segment. The negative health from that industry,
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it dominates that industry. It dominates.
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Moderate consumption. I thought Will Rogers said it.
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I don't know if it was Will Rogers or Oscar Wilde.
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All things in moderation to include moderation.
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Can we consume porn moderately?
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If we're stable, right, and we don't have any deep issues and things like that,
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and we watch it for amusement, and we see the art in it, because there is some
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very artistic pornography out there.
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It's like anything else. You do anything, you do it with a level of ethical foundation.
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Is it possible to ethically consume porn? I don't know. We'll see. We'll see.
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Moderate use, yeah, like we
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talked about earlier, you can enhance your sexual life with your spouse.
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You know, try some new things.
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You can do that. There are some positive outcomes there.
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But I always talk about things with a libertarian spin.
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And then I also always throw, I don't say a Christian spin because I don't speak
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for Christians, just like I don't speak for all libertarians.
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But from my perspective as a libertarian, as a Christian,
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very clearly pornography conflicts
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with what we consider God's view or the divine view of sexuality is.
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Now, to me, sex is one of the greatest gifts to mankind.
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It is among the most pleasurable thing in existence.
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Now, I've never done any drugs, folks.
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So I don't know the levels that you reach during that.
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There are some addicts out there that will tell you that that's what it is.
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To me, because to me, you have to be conscious, conscious to appreciate the joy, right?
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You can't do anything when you're clouded with drugs or alcohol or whatever.
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So I think sex is one of the greatest pleasures, one of the greatest gifts from God. Yeah, I do.
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I believe that. But pornography is inextricably linked to lust, which is a deadly sin.
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And it can be linked to infidelity if you consume it in such a way that it drives
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you to go search out someone else other than your wife. Yeah.
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Cheating just to watch porn, if your wife knows about it and condones?
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I don't know. I don't know. I don't think so, but I'm not sure.
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That's between you and your wife, I suppose.
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Now, there is a camp out there that says all sin is equal.
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If you even think about it, you may as well have done it. It's sin. Sin is sin is sin.
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I think I disagree with that, though. I think there are levels of sin.
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Now, that don't mean it's okay to go do it, and that don't mean you can do the
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lesser sin and just slide, and you still are meant to repent.
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But if all sin was equal, why would there be seven deadly sins? Is any other sin deadly?
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So they're not equal, as per the Bible, if there's only seven deadly sins.
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Now, does that mean all sin derives from those seven, I guess that's a way to look at it.
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I'm not a biblical scholar, so I can't go much deeper on that.
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I don't think all sin is equal.
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That's me personally. School me up. If you're out there, if you're one of my
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Christian homies, school me up.
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But if all sin was equal, I don't think they would have specified seven deadly sins.
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It's just my opinion. But I got news for you good people over 54 percent of
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christians use pornography regularly.
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And that's an anonymous survey done by Christians.
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And I want to say Christianity Today, 2025, possibly. That's where that's from.
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In what capacity are these Christians consuming porn?
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Is it just to have some spicy sex with your spouse? Is that even a sin?
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Is lust a sin with your wife?
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If you're lusting for your wife? Because is it real?
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I mean, once again, I think sex is one of the most magical gifts from God.
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And I think sex is meant to be enjoyed.
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I think God meant for us to enjoy each other in the fullest of capacities.
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I don't believe sex is just to procreate.
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If that were the case, it wouldn't feel so good.
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Right? Because all, look, I do believe in intelligent design, divine design.
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Like I said, I think it supersedes all other pleasure.
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Now, the pursuit of lust is definitely a sin, a deadly sin, it says.
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But if you make love with your wife or husband, folks, and you enjoy it to its fullest.
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You guys go to sleep just feeling completely satiated, just done.
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Is that bad? Is that not good?
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I think it's good. Yes, I do.
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Christians are out there consuming porn. Now, like I said, in all industries,
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there's good and bad people.
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In all religions, there's still shitbags walking around.
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Just because you're a professed Christian doesn't mean you're Christ-like.
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Hell, I'm probably not. I try to be in certain aspects.
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To me, that's my Christian journey, right?
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It's trying to be as good as I can be to people, right?
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Not only don't hurt people, but help people when they need it.
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I'm starting with that. I'm starting with that.
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34%. Man, that's consuming porn. Never mind.
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There's probably a significant number of Christian men out there chasing prostitutes,
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cheating on their wives, all that stuff that may or may not be fueled by pornography.
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I reject the notion that if you cheat on your wife, it's because you look at porn.
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There's so many other factors involved. So I reject that.
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Now, folks, don't get me wrong my wife and i've had these conversations so don't
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think i'm over here just saying some weird shit i've had those conversations
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and my wife grew up in a mississippi pentecostal.
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Preacher as a grandfather so porn sex never mind porn sex was stigmatized in
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a big way. Yeah, in a big way.
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So yeah, man, that, and then you see an overreaction from people who are shielded
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or not given the, I don't know, the true nature of sex between husband and wife.
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Yeah, no, we're not supposed to have sex before marriage as per the Christian doctrine. I get that.
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A lot of people do, folks. I did, for sure. But when it's so taboo,
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when you hide a thing, when you try to hide it and don't educate on it,
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people are going to go explore it because it's a strong, strong force.
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Sexuality is strong, folks.
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Anyway, back to the Christians. Yeah, Christian pornography use, 54%.
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That's a little, is that surprising? I'm not surprised by that.
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Again, I count myself a Christian.
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If I did an anonymous survey and someone asked, I would say,
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yes, I consume porn. There you go. I'm one of those 54, I guess.
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Other than the moral aspect of casual sex on film and all that,
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what's one of the things that really burns Christians up?
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But it, okay, blasphemy, right? Blasphemy.
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So when you see pornography that is specifically religious themed nuns or your
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Mormon preacher with all his little Mormon virgin concubines or whatever,
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crazy stuff like that.
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Hell, I don't know. Maybe 54% of those Christians are out watching that kind of porn.
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Just but i get
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look folks and i'm very much about art
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the freedom right of expression there was once there was once a painting well
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it was a photograph wasn't painting i forget the guy's name i've referenced
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it before it was called and it came out in like maybe the late 80s early 90s
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it was It was a crucifix, Christ on the crucifix,
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submerged in a vat of piss.
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And it was very, very offensive. And it created a controversy.
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And people tried to get it censored and all those things.
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And it was distasteful, for sure. And blasphemous, if, yeah, for sure.
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And it was very visually striking.
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The color the the the whole thing and
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and and the guy was yeah whatever and
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it was a work and the whole and it was a series on body fluids and there was
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other thing it wasn't just a anti-religious thing it well it was a little bit
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but it wasn't just that that was a component of it So I'm always walking a line of,
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because blasphemy does, for me, I do not blaspheme, right?
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And I don't think that, yeah, I don't really joke about, you know, the creator.
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But, but, but from the libertarian perspective, right, you should have a freedom of expression.
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You should. Now, should the federal government fund that or not?
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That's a whole different thing.
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And actually, I want to say the National Endowment for the Arts lost some funding over that.
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There was a repercussion for that, I think.
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Mocking faith is not cool, whether it's an artistic expression or pornographic
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or lit literary or some statue of Moloch sitting on the grounds of a city courthouse or whatever else.
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I don't think mocking faith, I don't care for that personally.
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It just creates it just adds to a darkness that we already have enough darkness
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in our society it just adds to the darkness even if it's frivolous sexuality
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it still adds to a darkness,
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because you're shitting on someone's faith all right let's move on the sex industry folks.
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Well, there's some different numbers here.
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The sex industry is a multi-billion dollar industry.
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Now that's above board and then below.
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There are varying numbers on the underground sex industry as far as money goes
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and as far as numbers of humans and this and that and the other.
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But you can't talk about pornography without talking about sex trafficking and stuff like that.
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Do I think all pornography is produced with involuntary hostages?
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No, I don't. I don't at all.
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I think there is within the industry, and it might be a small section,
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but I think there is an above board, a legitimate, you know, voluntary,
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fair, fairly operated, you know,
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sort of a piece of that.
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But you cannot, you cannot separate sex trafficking from pornography.
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I mean, what, and what, man, there, this could be a whole nother episode,
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just sex trafficking alone.
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Nevermind the result, a result being pornography. That's just one small piece.
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What drives that kind of stuff? How do you, how are people kidnapped?
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I think there's a 24, 2024 study, you know, trafficking rose in 2024 by 25%
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from what it previously was.
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Now we're already almost to the end of 2025.
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What drives that, man? I mean, just crazy stuff. Poverty. Yeah, I guess.
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No, probably largely poverty. These third world conflicts.
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Yeah. And somewhere between 60 and 70% of traffic victims are women.
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Female. 40% being children.
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That's a humongous number. Let me see here.
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Is there a number? quarter million
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u.s children u.s children are at risk from being trafficked for purposes of
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who knows what prostitution slavery and all that that stuff pornography underground dark web shit.
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Now, I'm not meaning to go into all this stuff in such a way to be biased here.
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I'm just telling you, you can't separate the porn industry from sex trafficking
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and child exploitation and even prostitution.
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Now, I do and I always have stood and I still do stand that prostitution should be legalized.
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And that may sound controversial based on the things I'm saying right now,
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but I also think drugs should be decriminalized.
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I think machine guns should be decriminalized.
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I think a lot of things should be done because I don't trust the government
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to regulate these things.
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But when they are decriminalized, then they are more above board.
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And when things can operate in the open, then they can be regulated by the free market.
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And government. Yeah, of course. Prostitution in Germany is legal.
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And I think it's a pretty thriving industry in Germany. And yeah,
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I'll admit I have partaken.
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There are medical standards. There are standards that these women have.
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Now, there's still violence, but check this out.
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If you are at a brothel in Germany and you get violent with one of those working
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girls, most of those brothels have big, beefy,
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burly, angry European type, Eastern European types that will beat the shit out of you.
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That's not excusing anything i'm just saying things that
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are are decriminalized are are more
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above board now does that mean decriminalize kidnapping no it doesn't no no
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no prostitution is a result that's a thing that they get that that goes beyond
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what is criminal you know and And who knows,
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what's it like in Nevada or whatever counties in Nevada that prostitution's legal?
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I don't even know. None of that popped up in any of my research.
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How are those women? Are those women empowered or they're out of force? I don't know.
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I don't know. I'm sure they have some standards for their ladies there too, though.
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Because it's an above board business. They pay taxes, unfortunately,
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and they have to comply with regulations of some sort, health regulations and all those things.
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So look, sex trafficking and child exploitation cannot be disregarded.
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It cannot be disregarded. We're going to talk about that more later.
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So I talked about the point industry being a multibillion-dollar economy,
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multibillion-dollar economy, and that's underground shit.
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If it were all above ground, you would think municipality, you would think American
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politicians would be like, yes, we need to capitalize on that. You would think.
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But the illicit part of that is, you know, half of the drive on that is the taboo of it.
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Now, I don't want to get conspiratorial here, but when you got all these rich
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people who allegedly have these ridiculous sex parties with children,
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it's because they're kids.
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It's because it's taboo. It's because they feel empowered and untouchable to
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do things that other people can't and wouldn't do.
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Do you understand the nature of the black market versus above board?
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And that's all very libertarian points of view on that.
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So, yeah, there's bad. There's badness. There is definite badness in all that. And I recognize it.
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And there are organizations out there, folks, trafficking or anti-trafficking organizations.
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There's one that I've been following for a long time, and I think they're awesome.
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And the guy who runs it is named Basil Baz, and he's a, I want to say he's a man's man.
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You know, he's got long white hair.
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He's a tough guy. He's a genuine tough guy. And he was in the intelligence community and all this.
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The Association for the Recovery of Children, ARC.
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He's the founder and CEO of that. They've been doing business since the early 90s.
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And every mission they have, they've got 100% success rate in rescuing children
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all across the globe. Right.
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Various kidnapping, sex trafficking, et cetera, et cetera.
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The Association for the Recovery of Children, ARC.
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And the men who work with that organization are all former, you know,
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intelligence, military, police guys.
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Who are drawn, called, convicted to go out and try to protect the defenseless
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and the weak in this world.
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And you guys have all heard of Operation Underground Railroad that was the movie.
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There was a movie, Cry Freedom. Was it Cry Freedom?
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With Jim Caviezel. You know, it was a little controversial because it was highlighting
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the sex trafficking. And I think this was down in South America specifically.
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And then everybody was like, oh, well, Tim Ballard didn't do this or he didn't do that.
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It was a movie to highlight things. Now, there's been some controversy with
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Tim Ballard. He's been accused of trafficking.
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Now, I think they're probably baseless, but the point is that they have had
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a significant impact because I think Ballard also was intelligence or Homeland
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Security or something like that.
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I mean, you have to have a network of people who can help you actually collect
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and synthesize intelligence to be able to go and act on these things.
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And you've got to have some kind of network of people who can get you into these
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countries legally and things like that.
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So Operation Underground Railroad.
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Called Polaris that has a U.S.-based trafficking hotline. Yeah.
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There's a lot of them out there, Shared Hope, Truckers Against Trafficking.
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Yeah. There's one called Gray Bull. Now, they do rescues from war-torn countries,
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but it's a similar sort of thing.
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So these organizations are out there. Most of them are nonprofits.
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They rely on the largesse of the American public and the well-to-dos who genuinely want to help,
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not the ones who go out there and buy,
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fucking humans for their sexual and frigging evil pleasures.
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So there are good men out there doing good things. If I had something to offer to that, I would.
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My wife wanted me to try to reach out to Underground Railroad to work with them, to get a job.
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I don't think I bring anything to that table, really.
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I have tactical skill, that is all. I don't have a network of people.
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I don't know. I don't know how good I would be for that.
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If I reached out to any, it would be ARC.
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At any rate, besides that, these organizations are out there,
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and they're trying to cut some of that stuff off, some of the evil that exists
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that the porn industry doesn't necessarily promote,
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but it fuels and exacerbates.
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We all know as long as there's a demand, somebody will fuel the supply. Somebody will provide.
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Does the porn industry create that demand? Huh, huh?
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Creates it from scratch, but it certainly exacerbates it. Yeah.
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Sex and sexuality are very powerful things and they drive our connection.
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This is why men and women get together. It's a natural instinct.
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There's pheromones. There's body types that people do. Sometimes you look at
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and connect and you're like, oh my God, this person, I want to be a part of this person.
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And the pleasure can be immense and almost indescribable.
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It doesn't have to be exploited. It doesn't have to be ugly. It can be beautiful.
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But there's always the risk of addiction.
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If you don't take this pleasure and process it and go about it correctly,
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there's the risk of addiction.
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And then there's always, always the risk of exploitation.
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Always. It's out there. In every sector, in everything, there is always someone
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who will exploit what is good about this thing.
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It doesn't matter to industry. There are people extorting money.
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There are people lying and doing Ponzi schemes in the banking industry.
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There's people in any industry exploiting.
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There are people, there are restaurants selling you one thing and calling it
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this thing, but it's really something else to cut down on ingredient costs.
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Just crazy shit like that. There's exploitation all over the world,
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all over the industries, all over everything.
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There's some way to undercut and undermine it. But can we consume pornography ethically?
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Ethically. Now, look, I mean secularly here.
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Yes, as a Christian, it's not ethical necessarily to watch pornography.
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And I don't know. Again, we have to talk about this with smarter people than
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me. But can you and your wife, who you've been married to for 29 years,
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lay up in the bed, you know, with some candles on?
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Some sexy porn on the TV and roll around and get down and get worked up and have a great time.
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Yeah, that can happen. Is it ethical from a Christian perspective?
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Unknown. If you're assuming that all porn comes from exploitation, probably not.
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But again, I already gave you my opinion. I think that there is a sector in
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the porn industry out there that is above board.
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I Can we consume porn ethically in a secular way? Yeah, I think we can.
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Just be mindful. You know, just be mindful. Now, again, I'm not endorsing or indicting.
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I'm just saying I think it's possible. I think it's possible.
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But understand, excess can lead to bigger problems.
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Excess can lead to emotional and mental issues that can potentially,
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in massive excess, can rewire your brain where you find no pleasure anymore. You have to chase.
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You have to chase pleasure now.
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And that is not Christian-like at all.
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You should be chasing God's favor, not your physical pleasure.
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Again, it's a gift of God when it's done correct. Thank you.
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It's done correctly. When it's done incorrectly, it takes focus away.
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Ethical consumption of pornography requires an awareness of the content,
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the source of the content, the performer conditions.
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And was this pornography, literally, was it ethically produced, voluntary, fair?
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Yeah, was it because otherwise
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it can exploit vulnerable people vulnerable women and
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unfortunately out there vulnerable children so maintain
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some stability some mental and emotional stability make informed choices and
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then engage in a healthy way if you want to pornography it's a complex issue
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folks it's complex and it's nuanced it's complex and nuanced,
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You could branch off of any one of these little topics I touched on and just go on and on.
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Again, think about it critically, folks, and from whatever your value system is. Think about that.
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And if you're one of the Christians, one of those 54% or whatever, thank you.
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At least put it in perspective and assess don't be willfully ignorant of the porn you consume,
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now look good people in my life i've seen some bizarre shit be mindful of things you consume,
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