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Unpacking President Trump’s State of the Union | Epstein Files Docs Missing · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty KFI AM six forty do handle. Good morning, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: It is a Wednesday morning, February twenty five, and last
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  Speaker 2: night it was the State of the Union address by
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  Speaker 2: the President broke the record the longest State of the
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  Speaker 2: Union address in the history of the United States at
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  Speaker 2: one hour forty eight minutes. In recent memory. I think
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  Speaker 2: the shortest one was I think it was Richard Nixon.
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  Speaker 2: He had won under thirty minutes. If I'm not mistaken,
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  Speaker 2: and we can go back to State of the Unions
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  Speaker 2: George Washington in just a few minutes. George Washington was
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  Speaker 2: the first one. That's an annual State of the Union.
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  Speaker 2: The Constitution only calls from time to time the president
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  Speaker 2: must produce the State of the Union. And you don't
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  Speaker 2: have to be in person either. You can do it
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  Speaker 2: in writing. Literally, you can say, hey, we're good, then
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  Speaker 2: we're done. And always the president's every president says the
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  Speaker 2: state of the Union is strong, and the members of
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  Speaker 2: his party go up and they cheer like crazy, and
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  Speaker 2: the members of the opposing party sit on their hands.
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  Speaker 2: So last night he actually, oh, by the way, the
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  Speaker 2: second longest is also Donald Trump's.
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  Speaker 1: He likes to speak.
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  Speaker 2: Although he did tell us he was going to be
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  Speaker 2: a long one. He did say he had a lot
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  Speaker 2: to say, and he did. And what he took the
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  Speaker 2: concept that Ronald Reagan started brilliantly by shout outs to
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  Speaker 2: people in the gallery, he took that to a level
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  Speaker 2: we have not seen before. He spent more time doing
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  Speaker 2: the shout outs that I think any other president has
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  Speaker 2: ever done, and gave out.
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  Speaker 1: More medals and some of them deserved the medals.
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  Speaker 2: A few were, you know, come on, really, but the
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  Speaker 2: medals of honor that were given were truly deserved. But
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  Speaker 2: the problem is he made a show out of it
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  Speaker 2: instead of what traditionally happens in the White House in
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  Speaker 2: one of the rooms where family and friends gather and
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  Speaker 2: people who were there. It's the highest military honor, and
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  Speaker 2: he gave him the two people.
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  Speaker 1: But the problem is it was more of a show.
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  Speaker 2: And then I love that when he had talked about
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  Speaker 2: Venezuela and he had the uncle of this young lady
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  Speaker 2: that was in the gallery who had just been released
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  Speaker 2: by Trump or been released by the Venezuela authorities, which
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  Speaker 2: Trump should take credit for because he's the one they
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  Speaker 2: went in and attacked Venezuelan and Maduro and is sitting
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  Speaker 2: down and going, now, you guys are going.
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  Speaker 1: To talk to us. So a lot of political prisoners
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  Speaker 1: were released.
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  Speaker 2: But what I loved is he talked about this gal,
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  Speaker 2: this young lady in the audience, and that her uncle
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  Speaker 2: was released and we brought him right here, and here
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  Speaker 2: he is.
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  Speaker 1: It was a television show, and they hugged and they kissed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ralph, you know Ralph Edwards. Do you ever see
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  Speaker 2: Ralph Edwards This is your life? Yes, that's what this was.
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  Speaker 2: It was we brought your old teacher here. And they
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  Speaker 2: always a show though, yeah, yeah they are.
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  Speaker 1: But I think this one took it to a level.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of things that what Trump did do was,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, he was actually more moderate than I
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  Speaker 2: thought than I thought he was going to be.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. The heckling uh just went to great levels.
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  Speaker 2: That started really with Joe Biden as president and the
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  Speaker 2: Republican heckling and now heckling is simply part and parcel
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  Speaker 2: of a State of the Union address, which is a
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  Speaker 2: shame because they used to actually be serious. There was
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  Speaker 2: a great respect for the president that was given. Even
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  Speaker 2: if you you if you disagreed, you didn't stand up.
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  Speaker 2: You just sat in your seat. The Congress people that
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  Speaker 2: in their seat, and the Senators and now it's you
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  Speaker 2: just start screaming in heck league and it's just god awful.
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  Speaker 2: So some let's just go through some of the points
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  Speaker 2: that he made, some of the The bottom line is
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  Speaker 2: the President touted his successes, which is not unusual.
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  Speaker 1: That does happen.
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  Speaker 2: Now, maybe he exaggerated a little tiny bit. We have
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  Speaker 2: the best, the biggest economy. Ever, well we don't. We're
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  Speaker 2: on fire. We've never had more success we have, it's
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  Speaker 2: not nearly as good as he said. And the question is,
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  Speaker 2: and this is where I've always had a problem with
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  Speaker 2: President Trump. Presidents and businesses are allowed puffrey. Puffrey means
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  Speaker 2: that you are saying something is greater than it is
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  Speaker 2: or exaggerating, and in business, for example, puffery, we are
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  Speaker 2: the greatest, we are the best. That's allowed. We are
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  Speaker 2: better than anyone else, and here are the figures. And
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  Speaker 2: when it's not true, that is not puffrey. That's straight
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  Speaker 2: into well, let's say lying, and it's beyond just an exaggeration.
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  Speaker 1: And the President went to that point. He did. He
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  Speaker 1: was specific.
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  Speaker 2: Oil prices, gas prices are down, and he came in
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  Speaker 2: with some figures.
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  Speaker 1: They're not that low.
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  Speaker 2: Took We've we have taken I don't know how many
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  Speaker 2: people off of the snap food stamp programs, implication being
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  Speaker 2: that they've joined the economy.
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  Speaker 1: He cut those people. We are.
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  Speaker 2: The soaring economy. Well not as far as the United
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  Speaker 2: States is concerned. If you look at the approval ratings,
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  Speaker 2: they have gone down into the toilet. And the other
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  Speaker 2: thing that I found particularly upset, not really, I mean
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  Speaker 2: I didn't expect anything less, is that all the ills
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  Speaker 2: in the United States were because of the Democrats. Rising
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  Speaker 2: healthcare premiums are caused by you, the Democrats. You're not
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  Speaker 2: protecting social security. You are the problem for the nation's
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  Speaker 2: affordability crunch. But wait a minute, there is no affordability crunch.
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  Speaker 2: We have a roaring economy. It's the best everybody's working,
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  Speaker 2: But we have an affordability crunch. You caused that problem.
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  Speaker 2: And he got angri or in angrier as the speech
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  Speaker 2: went down, and he pointed to the Democratic side of
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  Speaker 2: the aisle and said, I'm telling you they are crazy.
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  Speaker 2: These people are crazy. Democrats are destroying this country. And
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  Speaker 2: a couple of things which I found interesting is stand
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  Speaker 2: up if you believe that the United States should protected
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  Speaker 2: citizens other than illegal immigrants, stand up, and the Democrat
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  Speaker 2: sat on their hands. Republicans went berserk, of course, because
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  Speaker 2: that's a basic tenet of trump Ism, is that illegal
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  Speaker 2: aliens are destroying the company, are destroying the country. They're
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  Speaker 2: the ones that are committing the crime. I mean, just
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  Speaker 2: took that to an exaggeration. By the way, illegal aliens
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  Speaker 2: per capita commit half the crime that citizens do. It's
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  Speaker 2: you know, that figure is a little bit skewed, but
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  Speaker 2: so therefore they they Here's the implication is, stand up
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  Speaker 2: if you think illegal immigrants should or the American citizens
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  Speaker 2: should be protected and illegal immigrants should not.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't stand up. Clearly, they didn't stand up.
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  Speaker 2: What does that mean they believe that illegal immigrants should
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  Speaker 2: have precedence over American citizens. That's clearly the implication. And
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  Speaker 2: then he pointed to them and said, you're the problem.
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  Speaker 2: You are horrible. You guys are terrible. That's where he.
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  Speaker 1: Went into trump Ism.
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  Speaker 2: Continuing on with what happened to the State of the
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  Speaker 2: Union last night, the President issued several awards two military pilots,
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  Speaker 2: an Olympic athlete got an award, a Coast Guard petty
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  Speaker 2: officer got an award, two National Guard members received awards,
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  Speaker 2: and just a fun Trump is and I'm not even
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  Speaker 2: gonna rip into it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just Donald Trump being hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump, he talked about it receiving the Medal of
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  Speaker 2: Honor himself, that he would like to give himself the
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  Speaker 2: Medal of Honor, but he couldn't do it. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: he is a civilian. And second ball, the medal of
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  Speaker 2: Honor is only allowed to be given to service members.
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  Speaker 2: Both the service members who were awarded the Medal of
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  Speaker 2: Honor certainly deserved him. Captain Royce Williams, one hundred year
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  Speaker 2: old former Navy pilot, was presented the medal by.
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  Speaker 1: First Lady Lania Trump. Trump.
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  Speaker 2: You know, to receive the Medal of Honor up in
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  Speaker 2: the stands in the gallery, I thought was a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of showmanship. That I would like to talk to
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  Speaker 2: members of the military and ask them what they think
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  Speaker 2: of that. The other medal of honor that was given,
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  Speaker 2: and again the Medal of Honor is the heroism that
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  Speaker 2: many of the service members show who deserve medal. Medal
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  Speaker 2: of Honor it's numerous. There are a lot of instances
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  Speaker 2: to get the medal itself. It's almost right place, right time,
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  Speaker 2: and right circumstance. So Eric Slover, chief warrant Officer, he
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  Speaker 2: led the military operation in Venezuela, and he was grievously wounded,
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  Speaker 2: and so he got the medal of honor. Again certainly
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  Speaker 2: deserving of it. This is a weird one. Olympic hockey
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  Speaker 2: goaltender connorl. Helbiuk, I don't know how to pronounce that
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  Speaker 2: is going to receive the highest civilian honor, the Presidential
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  Speaker 2: Medal of Freedom. And because he stopped forty two goals,
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  Speaker 2: I guess he helped the US team clinch the gold
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  Speaker 2: against their face off with Canada.
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  Speaker 1: Now as weird as I thought that was when I
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  Speaker 1: looked at it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, athletes have received this award, the Presidential Medal
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  Speaker 2: of Freedom. Katie Ledecki did, Tiger Woods did, Michael Jordan did.
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  Speaker 2: And here's one that I thought was interesting. The Coastguard
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  Speaker 2: swimmer who rescued one hundred and sixty four girls at
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  Speaker 2: Camp Mystic during the Texas flood last year, was awarded
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  Speaker 2: the Legion of Merit and it recognized exceptionally meritarious, meritorious conduct,
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  Speaker 2: and outstanding service.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought that was appropriate. But again.
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  Speaker 2: The part that I have trouble with is as deserving
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  Speaker 2: as these military people and as deserving as the goalie
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  Speaker 2: was to receive this award. It was more for show,
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  Speaker 2: I thought, than it was actually giving the award. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know the last time the First Lady gave presented
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  Speaker 2: an award, the Medal of Honor. And there were two
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  Speaker 2: Purple Heart awards given to National Guard members who were
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  Speaker 2: shot last year a few blocks at the White House.
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  Speaker 2: They got, as I said, purple purple Heart awards. One
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  Speaker 2: Sergeant Andrew Wolf gunshot wound to his head. He survived
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  Speaker 2: it and he got a huge ovation as he was
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  Speaker 2: standing next to his mother. And the other one Sarah Bistrom,
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  Speaker 2: who died from a gunshot wound after the attack, and
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  Speaker 2: she was awarded the Purple Heart posthumously accepted by her parents.
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  Speaker 2: It was I thought, quite a show last night, really did.
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  Speaker 2: The President focused the first hour on the economy, because
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  Speaker 2: that's where the Republicans, those Republican allies of his said,
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  Speaker 2: you have to talk about the economy. The economy is
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  Speaker 2: going to kill the midterms for Republicans, and they are worried.
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  Speaker 2: These congress people are worried that they're going to be
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  Speaker 2: voted right out of office. And that happens during the
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  Speaker 2: mid term. Usually it does happen where the party in power.
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  Speaker 1: It goes the other way. For some reason, we just throw.
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  Speaker 2: People out during midterms, and on this one it is
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  Speaker 2: particularly a problem for the Republicans and they are looking
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  Speaker 2: for a complete wipeout. Obama was wiped out at the
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  Speaker 2: midterms after he was elected, and of course the President
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  Speaker 2: wrapped himself up in the flag, which he does on
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  Speaker 2: a regular basis. That was the speech last night. He
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  Speaker 2: talked about the terrorff policy. I love this one. As
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  Speaker 2: time goes by. I believe the terrors paid by foreign
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  Speaker 2: country which by the way, they do not pay the tariffs.
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  Speaker 2: I do not know why he keeps on saying that
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  Speaker 2: it is simply not true. The foreign company countries do
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  Speaker 2: not pay the tariffs.
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  Speaker 1: We do. It's people.
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  Speaker 2: It's companies that are bringing goods into the United States
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  Speaker 2: that pay the tariffs. I don't know why he keeps
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  Speaker 2: on going. I guess if he says it enough times,
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  Speaker 2: you believe it. So the tariffs paid by foreign countries
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  Speaker 2: which they aren't paid, will like in the past, substantially
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  Speaker 2: replace the modern day system of income tax, taking a
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  Speaker 2: great burden off the people that I love. Here's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of history the United States economy. The entire
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  Speaker 2: budget of the United States prior to the income tax
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  Speaker 2: was tariffs. That's where the government made all the money tariffs,
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  Speaker 2: And so it's not the case anymore. Also, replacing tariffs
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  Speaker 2: or replacing the income tax, Yeah, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: The federal income tax is authorized by the sixteenth Amendment. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he's not a big fan of the constitution, and the
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  Speaker 2: power to collect any revenue is defined by Congress. And
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  Speaker 2: then finally, the President use this bitch speech to reprise
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  Speaker 2: his attack against the election cheating is rampant in our elections,
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  Speaker 2: focusing of course on his twenty twenty loss, and he
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  Speaker 2: said of the Democrats, they want to cheat, they have cheated.
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  Speaker 2: Their policy is so bad. The only way they can
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  Speaker 2: get elected is to cheat, and we're going to stop it.
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  Speaker 2: We have to stop it. The premise has always been
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  Speaker 2: the case that the only free election in this country
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  Speaker 2: is a Republican win. If a Democrat wins, it is cheating.
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  Speaker 2: It is rigged. That, unfortunately, is the view of the president.
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  Speaker 2: There are no free elections. We do not have a democrat.
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  Speaker 2: We do not have a.
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  Speaker 1: Democracy of a democrat wins in office.
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  Speaker 2: And how many people believe that, you know, certainly all
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  Speaker 2: the MAUGA supporters do.
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  Speaker 1: And so we're going to see.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, the bottom line is the president come
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  Speaker 2: out a winner on this. He probably came out pretty even.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he won. I don't think he lost.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think this state of the Union is going
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  Speaker 2: to have much effect on which way we're going. People
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  Speaker 2: are still going to complain a bit about prices no
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  Speaker 2: matter what he says. It is more expensive to live,
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  Speaker 2: no matter what he says. The economy, well, if the
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  Speaker 2: economy is roaring, unfortunately it has dropped since last year.
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  Speaker 2: The increase the unemployment is marginally better than it was
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  Speaker 2: last year. I mean by one hundred and fifty thousand jobs,
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  Speaker 2: which is nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, enough of that, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I have said several times that when the files
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  Speaker 2: come out, it's with the Epstein fire, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: show that President Trump not having there's no evidence that
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  Speaker 2: he molested young girls. And I don't think he did
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  Speaker 2: because that's just not his jam. He's into twenty year
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  Speaker 2: old models. But the files are going to show that
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people, including President Trump, were a lot
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  Speaker 2: closer to Epstein than we thought.
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  Speaker 1: And that's exactly.
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  Speaker 2: What seems to be happening the way the FBI witness
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  Speaker 2: interviews show.
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  Speaker 1: So here's what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: There were dozens of FBI witness interviews from the investigation
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  Speaker 2: missing from that trove of files that were released. The
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  Speaker 2: DJ was ordered by law. Bill was passed that the
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  Speaker 2: president or the DJ has to release all of the
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  Speaker 2: files by the millions. Well, it turns out there's a
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  Speaker 2: few missing, and these are pretty important. Three interviews related
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  Speaker 2: to a woman who told agents that Epstein had repeatedly
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  Speaker 2: abused her, starting when she was approximately thirteen years old.
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  Speaker 2: She also said that President Trump or Donald Trump at
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  Speaker 2: that time, sexually assaulted her. Now, I want to make
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  Speaker 2: a point this, as Neil said, is this a smoking gun.
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  Speaker 2: It is not a smoking gun gun. It does not
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  Speaker 2: prove or show that President Trump sexually assaulted her. But
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  Speaker 2: what it does show is that the files are there.
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  Speaker 1: She did. In fact, she was contacted in an interview.
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  Speaker 2: Actually she's the one that contacting the FBI, there were
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  Speaker 2: the interviews there, and if you're going to show all
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  Speaker 2: of the interviews, you have to show those interviews. You
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  Speaker 2: can't just keep them from the public or from the release.
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  Speaker 2: And that is the problem here. The problem is not
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  Speaker 2: whether it did, because it doesn't prove anything. It's uncorroborated,
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  Speaker 2: because these FBI interviews are not corroborated. So there's nothing
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  Speaker 2: other than her word that she was molested by the president.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you, I'm guessing a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: make a lot of claims against these high profile people,
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  Speaker 2: and there's no more high profile than President Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Even when he was just Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: He's about as high profile as you could get as
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  Speaker 2: an individual who is not in office, who is not
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  Speaker 2: in the presidency. But you know, why would the DOJ
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  Speaker 2: not release those files? Why would they keep them hidden?
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  Speaker 2: Do they think that this is more than just a
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  Speaker 2: woman making the accusation? And then therein lies the question,
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  Speaker 2: and the Democrats are now giving a bunch of fodder
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  Speaker 2: saying let's look into this. Andrew McCabe, a former FBI
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  Speaker 2: deputy director, say, it's the most basic and important break
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  Speaker 2: in the wall.
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  Speaker 1: That becomes the investigation.
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  Speaker 2: And so you have some Democrats or Democrats across the
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  Speaker 2: board that are arguing there is something there. Well, there
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  Speaker 2: may be, but it's not corroborated. It's too easy to
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  Speaker 2: say this was just someone who was upset and made
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  Speaker 2: it up. But here is the file, here is the interview,
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  Speaker 2: and the fact that the DOJ kept that. Come on, really, now,
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  Speaker 2: the DOJ did say this actually is in various places,
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  Speaker 2: and well, one of the survivors, particularly this woman, said,
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  Speaker 2: I looked and looked and looked, and my name.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't show up. And I talked to the FBI. I
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  Speaker 1: did an interview with the FBI, and the FBI makes.
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  Speaker 2: A record of those interviews, and it went into the
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  Speaker 2: DOJ's files. And the dj did not make this public.
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  Speaker 2: And that smells to high heaven. That doesn't pass the
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  Speaker 2: smell test. But again, I want to make it really clearer.
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  Speaker 2: This does not in any way prove that Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: molested or somehow abused miners. It's just one woman's story
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  Speaker 2: that that is not corrob that has not been corroborated.
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  Speaker 2: Although her claim about Epstein raping her, that's coru that everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Believes, and there's enough evidence there.
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  Speaker 2: So in any case, you know it's I think it's
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  Speaker 2: just the DOJ just making a mistake. Why because you
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  Speaker 2: got to protect the president. That's why you got it.
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  Speaker 2: You can't even have an accusation against the president.
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  Speaker 1: You accuse the president of anything and you become an enemy.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Okay, I want to tell you a story.
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  Speaker 2: This is completely crazy. A guy the name of David
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  Speaker 2: Allen Funstan was convicted of sixteen counts of kidnapping and
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  Speaker 2: child molestation in nineteen ninety nine.
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  Speaker 1: He was just granted parole elderly parole.
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  Speaker 2: At age sixty four. He sexually assaulted multiple children under
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  Speaker 2: seven years old in Sacramento in nineteen ninety five in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six, and the judge who sentenced him called
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  Speaker 2: him the monster parents fear the most. So how the
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  Speaker 2: hell does he get out a child molester of this magnitude?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is completely crazy. Well, here is what happens.
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  Speaker 2: California has a Violent Predator's program that elderly paroles. Elderly
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  Speaker 2: prisoners can be granted parole. They're eligible for release and
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  Speaker 2: can be committed to a state hospital if they have
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  Speaker 2: a mental disorder likely to they're likely to engage in
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  Speaker 2: sexually violent crimes again and fenceton. Funston was sentenced in
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  Speaker 2: ninety nine to three consecutive sentences of twenty five years
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  Speaker 2: to life, one sentence of twenty years and eight months.
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  Speaker 2: And when this program was instituted, this sexually violent predator
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  Speaker 2: program was a stateablished the expectation that offenders like Funstant
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  Speaker 2: would never be eligible for parole. That is in the
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  Speaker 2: old days. But how about this one. California has the
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  Speaker 2: Elderly Parole Program who's eligible. Inmates are generally suitable for
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  Speaker 2: parole if they're older than fifty, have been incarcerated for
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  Speaker 2: at least twenty continuous years, and the inmate can then
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  Speaker 2: be released if the parole board determines that he generally
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  Speaker 2: he does not possess an unreasonable risk to public safety.
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  Speaker 2: So the board, the Parole Board said they don't believes
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  Speaker 2: Funstant when they granted him parole posed a significant danger
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  Speaker 2: because of the extensive self help that he engaged in,
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  Speaker 2: therapy work, sex offender treatment classes that he completed, the moorse,
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  Speaker 2: the remorse that he expressed, and his track record of
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  Speaker 2: good behavior, and of course always is the case. He
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  Speaker 2: grew up in a dysfunctional home environment with physical and
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  Speaker 2: verbal abuse and was sexually abused by his half sister
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  Speaker 2: at a young age. By the way, there are plenty
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  Speaker 2: of people that live in those kinds of environments that
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  Speaker 2: don't end up being sexual predators. But at the hearing,
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  Speaker 2: he called himself a selfish coward, and he looked like
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  Speaker 2: he was pretty upset. I'm disgusted and ashamed of my behavior.
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  Speaker 2: Have great remorse for the harm I caused my victims,
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  Speaker 2: their families, the community of Sacramento. He ruined the lives
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  Speaker 2: and accepted the fact that he ruined the lives of
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  Speaker 2: his young victims. Pedophalia is a lifelong condition, he admitted
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  Speaker 2: that he would have to deal with. That's why I
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  Speaker 2: work so hard at managing my behavior and on practicing
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  Speaker 2: my urge control plan. And I'm welcome to California. Although
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  Speaker 2: now you've got to Bill introduced. He says, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: sexual predators are going to stay for the rest of
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  Speaker 2: their lives.
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  Speaker 1: Now I have a question. It's twenty years in the.
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  Speaker 2: Or twenty five years enough, And I don't know the
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  Speaker 2: answer to that. And a lot of people say no
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  Speaker 2: because the crime is so heinous and it's one of
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  Speaker 2: those things. At what point is there such thing as
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  Speaker 2: a debt to society.
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  Speaker 1: It is many you hear me now? Yeah? I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Can you hear me now? Yeah? I am do.
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  Speaker 2: I believe in rehabilitation, Yeah I do for some people.
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  Speaker 2: But sometimes you reach a crime that it is a
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  Speaker 2: level such magnitude of heinousness if you will that, No,
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  Speaker 2: you can't do that. And those people that say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: every life is sacra saying no, it's not.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: I have no problem squashing down lives like a cockroach
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  Speaker 2: under my feet. This one, you know, is that parole system.
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  Speaker 1: Is it good? I don't know the answer to that one.
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  Speaker 1: I really don't. Alright, KF I am six point forty.
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