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Top 10 Breakout Candidates for 2025-2026 (Part 1) · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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Not sponsored. That is actually brilliant.
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That's such a good story. OK, let's dive into this really,
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really funny. Today we're gonna be doing our
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top 10 fantasy breakout candidates for this upcoming
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20252026 season. This is going to be Josh.
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Part Part A Josh know it yours what happened and he's the one
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that started this. Yeah, exactly you you conceived
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of part A part A that's going to be a numbers 5:50 for the
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breakout candidates for this season.
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A lot of interesting names here to to look that the law can be
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steals in most drafts. So definitely pay attention
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guys. It's going to be really good
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episode. Before we dive in, you could
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except YouTube for the. Moment bunch.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, everyone look behind you
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right now, OK? Not everyone will get there.
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Yeah. So should we mention some some
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honorable mentions before we get into the list?
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What do you think? I think why not, Yeah, why not
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feel like. OK, so these are the names that
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didn't quite like the top 10. Before we get into this, let's
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lay down the foundation while we're defining as breakout
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candidates or. Like, OK, yeah, so to me, what
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makes someone a breakout player, it doesn't mean they have to be
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from zero to hero. To me, it's really them taking a
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big step. So can be someone who goes from
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zero to very solid on your roster, can be someone goes from
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very solid on your roster to amazing.
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It's just about taking that big step.
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It doesn't necessarily matter where that big step is.
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So that's my disclaimer for a breakout.
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Yeah, it's not like we think all these guys are gonna be first
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overall next. Year.
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Yeah, yeah. But these are type of guys that
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I guess we. Can are gonna have a lot more
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value than they did last year and are gonna be a lot worth a
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lot more than they are gonna be worth a lot more than they were
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last year, yes. And like, I don't see any names
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on this list that are going in the top three rounds of any
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drafts unless you're in Hometown Fan.
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Maybe in Part B, but not part A. Yeah, definitely not in the
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first five we're gonna mention. Anyways, let's dive in some
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honorable mentions. We've got Luke Hughes, Marco
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Kasper, Adam Fantilli, Kent Johnson, Marco Rossi, Pavel
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Score, Afev and Matt Coronado. I don't care what anybody.
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Say. I was just gonna say, in case
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anybody's adding these names to their preemptive watch list, do
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not write score afev. You won't be confused.
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Not a real player, but kind of like a real player.
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Exactly. Yeah.
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So these are all guys, yeah. Out of all these, who do you
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think has the biggest shots like a big jump?
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For me it's Dora Phev that's my favorite of these ones.
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I think, I think the the question is, is just out of all
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these guys, who has the most like quote UN quote, secured
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deployment? I feel like all these guys have
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bigger questions than whoever is going to be actually on this
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list. And that's what's holding them
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back. But yeah, I think they're fair
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as well. Or Coronado lowkey.
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I'm gonna go with Chantilly. I'm going to go with Chantilly.
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I know it doesn't seem like that.
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I mean, obviously right away he's kind of buried behind
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Monahan, but he was such a good prospect, like and he's such a
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high ceiling. So I think that just the talent
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there could win out, but. If he takes over Monahan spot
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then he can definitely definitely and will break out of
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it if he does that. It's just if you actually
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believe it. Yeah, I also think Kasper, such
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an underrated talent. I'm excited to watch all these
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guys, but. For me, you're all gonna be
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great. They all made the honorable
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mentions. None of them made the top 10.
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Which brings us to the top 10. Yeah, so.
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One more way. One, Yeah, thanks.
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I'm really good at them. One more kind of caveat before
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we dive into these. We're gonna talk about our
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reasons for why we think these guys are gonna break out.
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But one kind of blanket reason that covers almost all these
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guys is the fact that they're just a year older, have another
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year experience down. And so we're not gonna repeat
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that for all of them. But something to bear in mind.
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All right, so #10 on the big breakout list is Morgan Geekie
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of the Boston Bruins, 27 years old, the oldest guy on this
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list. Late bloomer right here.
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Yeah, so he was, we're projecting him to be, he's
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gonna, he's a left wing or projecting to be on line, one
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power play, one on. Boston's pretty much a lock in
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those positions. And what do you guys think about
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this breakout? Why do you think he's a big
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breakout candidate? So to me, I see this as
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completely related to Pasternak. If Morgan Geeks succeeds this
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year because he's playing with one of the best players in the
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world, Elias Lindholm or Casey Middlestadt.
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These are not Those are the top 2 centres.
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They're not going to. Yeah, Zaka as well.
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Zach is OK, but I feel like geek.
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He's really the player on this team, poised to benefit from
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Pasternak's elite talent. That's why I like it.
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Do I think that they're gonna be like they're gonna have a bounce
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back? Yes, because they were so bad,
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But I don't think they're gonna return to their you know,
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presidents trophy candidate type teams.
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I also don't think they're near a playoff team.
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Nevertheless, they will score because they have passed or not.
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And I think that this could bring Morgan Geeky to like 70
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ish points this year. I mean, I think to kind of like
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tack on to what Jake said, we saw last year, he become
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honestly very valuable for Bangers League specifically.
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And we are banger management after all.
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But he was almost a walking double stable and you picked
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this guy up on waivers. He's playing with Pastrnak.
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We saw on this Boston team last year.
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I mean, listen, they were pretty bad last year, but we saw no
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honestly fantasy relevant centres like Elias Lindholm kind
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of like dipped in and out of being fantasy relevant.
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But it looks like the wingers on this team are where usually the
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fantasy value is. And he's gonna be playing with
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Pasternak and on PP1 probably the whole year.
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I don't see anybody that's taking his spot.
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He can keep that physicality and also get a higher level, higher
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floor for his points and higher ceiling.
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So I like him a lot. I think #10 is reasonable for
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his breakup. And I think, I think he's gonna
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be going a lot later than most of the guys on this list.
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And it will be a good value. Kind of like where you got
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Jenner last year, I think before the injury.
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Yeah, I like him A. Lot don't remind me.
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I like him a lot as a late round pick.
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Obviously, you know, you don't wanna wait too long before
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someone else snaps him up, but he's gonna be someone I think
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you're gonna be happy to have on your roster the entire year.
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Boston's going to be bad, we all know that, but every bad team
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has good players. And Pasta still like in the top
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five conversation, you know, for, for fantasy.
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So getting to play with him and just be his shotgun is a is a
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big boon. Noah pun intended to rub salt in
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Jake's room and and yeah, and I think like some Marshawn getting
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treated at the last deadline, even though they're Marshawn
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pressure was right wing and he's left wing and Marshall wasn't
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necessarily playing with pasta, but it's just one less person to
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compete with him for pasta shotgun seat.
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So, so that's why I think he's a big breakout candidate.
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So on a 12 team league, what's the highest round that you guys
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would take? Morgan Geeky.
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I think I'm just trying to base it off of where I got players
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last year and granted we playing a very deep league that has like
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21 rounds, so it's fairly deep. I got Buchnevich and the 12th
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round. I think I feel like geeky,
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knowing his profile probably goes slightly later than that.
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I feel like he probably end up going like around 13 to 15 and.
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I think would be super happy to get him there.
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Yeah, you probably picked him. It's gonna be like him.
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Or like Mikael Granlund. Yeah.
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And then you probably drive Morgan Geeky.
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Yeah, I agree. I actually picked Boom Jenner in
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the 10th last year because he had more of a pedigree.
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But this is like this can return on value and then some, I think,
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let's say fucking geeky 13th round this year and then we're
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discussing him for like a six round pick next year.
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So that's a huge. D6 would be high.
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I feel like he definitely gets into the 8 to 9 range.
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Yeah, 70 points with a double double S elite.
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Yeah. That's true specifically for
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bankers. So.
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Yeah, exactly. All right, let's move on to #9.
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#9 is Cole Perfetti 23 year old on the Winnipeg Jets projected
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position right wing line 2, power play 1.
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Josh put him here just because he's going to play on the same
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team as Gabe Vilardi. That's the only reason.
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I put him on the nickel in the jar.
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OHS. Honestly, that's that's $0.10 to
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a lucky winner at the end of the year for now.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's it's probably gonna
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grow at like 10 bucks. I like it.
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We we've talked a lot about Perfetti already in previous
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episodes to be sure to check those out yet.
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But this is an excellent candidate to take a big leap.
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And compared to other players on this list, like he's also above
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the average age, right? He's 23, so he's definitely no
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old geezer. But.
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Former 10th overall pick in 2020 and already had fifty points
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last year on a very high scoring Winnipeg Jets team.
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Yeah, the biggest thing here is that, you know, he's not playing
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with Kyle Connor, who really is their superstar, but he will be
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that power play 1 and that's where we expect him to get a lot
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of his value. So I like Profeti a lot.
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Yeah, I like guys, like a lot of the guys on this list.
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The main reason for their breakout is they're just they're
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really highly touted prospect and they've got another year
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under their belt. But I find it really great when
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you also have another thing that to back up the the breakout.
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And in this case, the Nikolai Euler's trade is just a clear
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cut. Euler's out.
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Perfetti been on power play one. That's a huge boost.
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Winnipeg had the number one power play unit in the league
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last year. They may not be exactly #1 next
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year, but they're not gonna drop that much.
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This is a huge opportunity for him.
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And he showed that he could run with it in the playoffs.
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He had a really solid playoffs. So I'm really excited for pretty
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this year. Yeah.
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I mean, you guys touched on basically everything, but I
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think the biggest thing for Perfect is if you look at last
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year, like he was a guy that was going undrafted in most leagues,
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there wasn't much value when he was playing in bottom 6 and no
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power play exposure, some power page, some power play two time
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throughout the year. And that line honestly was very
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productive and we saw what he could do with like let's say,
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quote UN quote subpar linemates. But now he plays in the top 6
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and basically guaranteed P1 spot.
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His value shoots through the roof.
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Like is that a saying Shoot through the roof?
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I think so. There you go.
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I can see him getting drafted around 10 or 11 in most of your
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deep category leagues because he's gonna be a guy that's gonna
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probably hover around .8 on the high side, maybe .9 points per
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game. He won't be a category stud like
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a category coverage, but point 25.3 power play points.
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Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
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Kind of like what Dave already did last year.
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Exactly. I would take Velardi over him
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just because of the even strength because Florida gets me
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online at even strength, but I think they're very similar.
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Agreed. Cool, let's go to number. 8
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number. 8 This is Jake's favorite.
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It should have warned you guys. I just went for it.
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I love it. Sometimes you just gotta go for
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it. All right #8 this one for Jakey
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Big Leo Carlson, 20 years old, centre line, one power play, one
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on the Anaheim Ducks. Take it away, Erin.
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He's been on Jake's fantasy team like every year since he was.
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Drafted. Yeah, I drafted him back when he
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was playing in the for Orebro HK in the J Nationell.
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You definitely did. No, no, OK, I.
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Think you lost his fantasy league that year?
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So, so to be fair, like this is exactly the trap that I fall for
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consistently too early. And then the leader, I don't
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take him. He's gonna be fired.
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So I'm just gonna keep taking him until I'm right.
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And this is the year. And here is why I think that the
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Ducks are totally invested in him, him being the elite talent
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on this team. Leo Carlson was drafted second
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overall. I know Mctavish was drafted
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third a few years ago, but I think that they're expecting Leo
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to be like that guy for them and you know, it makes.
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Using trade rumors. Yeah, so that's, you know, I
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mean, if he goes like Leo's easily, easily the guy.
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I would definitely bump him in any rankings I have if Mctavish
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gets traded. Because even though that's kind
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of a power play, 1A1B for the Anaheim Ducks, I think they can
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consolidate on like one power play and put all their studs
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there. And Leo's definitely gonna fit
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there for this year. I'm worried about his face off
15:20
reduction if you're in a faceoff league because young guys are
15:22
just not great face off, you know, ears.
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But for for now, look, 45 points in 76 games last year.
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I think that he can easily get to 60 and 82 with great ice time
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and good coverage overall. What do you guys think?
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I mean, I think he's playing on a line with Cutter and Alex
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Killorn. The line could be better if he
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was playing with Sam Colangelo. But listen, we can't be would be
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too picky, but I I think he set up for success.
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I think the big question is what the Anaheim does with their
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power plays because they were kind of doing like A1A1B last
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year when splitting their talent.
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If they kind of consolidate, I think it should be around him
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right now. If you look at, let's say you're
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referencing daily face off or whatever, like he's gonna be on
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PowerPoint 2, which is kind of odd.
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I think if he's the 1C and Mctavish isn't trade rumors
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already like definitely committed to Leo Carlton for the
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long haul. I think he should be the guy on
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the quote UN quote main power play unit.
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I'm a little worried about his linemates to be honest.
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I just don't know if there's any, like if they have the
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ceiling to kind of elevate him points wise and I don't know if
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the power play production will sustain his value throughout the
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season. So honestly, I'm a little
16:32
worried about his breakout. He's the guy on this list that I
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feel like is is the most squishy in terms of like his his his
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fantasy value, but he he's a beast of a talent.
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Like he could shoot through the roof if you will.
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Yeah, for me, I will. Actually, for me, I like him
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because I think Anaheim's taking a big step this year.
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We've mentioned a bunch in past episodes, but we viewed them as
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kind of like the Habs, but one year removed.
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So the Habs took a big step last year.
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I expect him to take a big step this year.
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To me, he's the clear line, one power play, 1 centre.
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He's their guy. Mctavish or no Mctavish, he's
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above him in the in the depth chart.
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And I think that last year Carlson got .6 points per game
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with pretty much 0 power play production.
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So any power play production, assuming he maintains that
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points per game, even strength, any power play production is
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just a bonus that bumps on. That's a good point.
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And then the fact is they traded for Chris Kreider.
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I'm not a fan of Crider for fantasy this year, but I am a
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fan of how he could add power play value to that team.
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You know, as a net front guy, he's great at tipping it in.
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So I think that's gonna give Carlson some more power play
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points, which will boost his overall points.
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So I think it's definitely gonna be a bit of a breakout for him.
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I think he has more room to break out after this year.
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This isn't going to be his final, you know, coming out of
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his cocoon as a butterfly. But you know what?
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He's gonna he's gonna take a step in his metamorphosis this
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year. The only the only thing though
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is I mean, listen, like we do not know what the lines are
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going to like right now. We're still months out from the
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season. So we'll have a better idea
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closer to the start of the season.
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But like if I like the situation, I like the wingers
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that the other centres on the team are playing with.
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Like I'd rather he centre the Toronto and Grantland or I'd
18:08
rather he centre. And Troy Terry, you don't know
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for sure. What exactly that's why so we
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don't know right now, but I. Would expect them to give him
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the best wingers. Then I'm obviously way more
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excited about the situation. Yeah, they also, in real life,
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the Anaheim Ducks kind of reached to get him.
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So it means that they see something special in him, so
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they're gonna wanna make it. Work.
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Yeah. He's their future 1C.
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Like they're gonna put him in the best situation.
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I mean, they should have. They were smart.
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Yeah. Yeah, exactly, which is question
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mark for some teams sometimes. Nevertheless, this is an
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exciting player to watch. This year's number or Kevin?
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You wanna do it? #7 not as good as last, but I'm
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working. On it, I think you do it every
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time. OK, It's at 7.
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We have Alexi Lafreniere of the New York Rangers, 23 years old,
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left wing, on line one power play, question mark, power play
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one. Maybe that's the big discussion
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point. I go ahead, go ahead.
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I think so. I just think that that's where
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they're gonna try to make it work with them.
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Like this is OK. Just to to backtrack to Leo
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Carlson, They reached to get him in the draft.
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Alexis Lafreniere was the no-brainer #1 they like, they
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have to make it work. And if it's not this year, then
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he's just. Officially adjust.
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Pay them too. Yeah, exactly.
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I. Think you know what I always
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say? Really invest it.
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What do you always? Go to that money, baby.
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They have to, they, they really investing in Lafreniere I think
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more than ever with the corridor trade.
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And I just, I mean, look, he's gonna, if he plays on the wing
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with Panera and in the opposite wing and power play one, this
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can be huge for him. And I really, really think
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they're going to push that as hard as they can.
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Yeah. I've got like 3 big reasons that
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I think this could be a breakout year for him.
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One is following that money, as we mentioned. 2 is the Crider
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trade like Jackie just mentioned.
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Three, one of the really big ones for me is that Laviolette
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got fired and he is notorious for being bad at developing
20:11
young players and always defaulting to the veterans and
20:13
giving them better ice time. So biting him leaving and change
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of scenery with the coaching, I think this is gonna be the last
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chance to crack power play one. Regardless of cracking power
20:22
play one, he's gonna take a step up.
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But with that power play one spot, it's going to be a leap.
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So I'm really excited for this season.
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I mean, honestly, if you were up to me, I mean, I don't want to I
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don't want to spoil the rest the list, but I feel like I have him
20:34
like a spot or two higher. Honestly, just I'm really
20:37
convinced that the deployment is going to be there this year.
20:39
I think the New York Rangers are one of the teams that's gonna
20:41
bounce back to hardest this year.
20:44
They were honestly awful last when they almost made the
20:46
playoffs. So I think this year they're
20:49
they're kind of like really poised to make that jump back to
20:52
where they should be. Like there there should be a
20:54
Stanley Cup contender technically, right?
20:56
There should be. They have the roster for, they
20:58
have the goaltending, they have the power play for it.
21:02
I love, I love Lafreniere. I think he's submitted himself
21:05
as like one of those fantasy double double s like power
21:07
forward types that there's not really many of them in the
21:09
league that can contribute at a high point space.
21:12
I think he set up for success. I think the the one that gets
21:15
bumped off this power play is probably going to be Saber
21:18
Trocheck. They they've they favored
21:20
Trocheck being off the power play the most in the past, but I
21:23
think they honestly is like the weakest member on this team.
21:26
Yeah, You know, the the weakest part of the Rangers roster to me
21:30
is by far, by far their defence. And that's great for fantasy
21:34
because, you know, the the more goals that they let in, the more
21:37
they're gonna need to score. And even though she's Durkin's
21:40
probably the most talented goalie in the league at this
21:43
point, you can't do it all like the Rangers will need to score
21:47
if they're going to succeed. They're not going to be a
21:48
shutdown team like LA. They lost Miller, they added
21:51
gave Rikov, they added Carson sushi as well.
21:55
So I mean there are third line is honestly suspect, but I feel
21:58
like they're top 4 is not too bad, but like you said like
22:01
definitely not their strong point at this point in the
22:03
season. Yeah, it's it's a top heavy
22:05
team. Like they need that top 6 to
22:07
produce, which is why we also love Will Cooley.
22:09
Yeah, but yeah, I'm excited by by this one too.
22:14
I mean, like you said at the beginning, it's a bunch of young
22:16
players who can have that that next year breakout.
22:20
And I mean, really, of this top five that we're mentioning,
22:24
Lafreniere's point ceiling should be the highest.
22:28
Yeah, I mean, honestly like to to Kevin's point about him being
22:31
higher on the list, the only reason I had him this quote UN
22:35
quote low, you know, he still 7th out of everyone.
22:37
But the reason I had him this low was because of the question
22:40
mark next to power play one. If he gets that power play 1 to
22:43
me he's a no brainer. Like top three top 4 breakout
22:45
guy this year. Like realistically, if he if he
22:48
gets power play one, let's say. And you know, going into the
22:50
season, like I drafted stretching the calf, I think
22:54
around 4:00 last year, Timo Meyer went around 5.
22:57
Like Live could easily have a better and both of those guys
22:59
did last year. I'd hope so.
23:03
You don't like specially called Josh?
23:06
Moving on. Hit us, Kevin.
23:11
Yeah. Don't burst 6.
23:15
That was. Great at #6 we've got the Pride
23:20
Of Montreal, You realize that, Cosky, 21 years old, right wing
23:26
line, one power play, one on your Montreal Canadiens.
23:31
Josh, you reached for him last year in the draft like 2 rounds
23:33
early. Were you taking him this year?
23:35
How many rounds you reaching? Well, I'm not gonna reach again,
23:37
but I think he may have earned where I took him last year for
23:40
this year, if that makes. Sense you took him last year at
23:43
the lower value, he's going to go ahead of where you took him
23:45
last year. I think he's gonna go.
23:47
I took him last year around 8:00 and I think he should go maybe
23:51
around 7:00, but that's I think kind of around where he where he
23:54
should be going. This is this is the new, I think
23:58
the the top new up and coming power forward in the league
24:00
that's gonna be able to contribute at a high level.
24:03
And I mean, we've spoken about laugh being almost a double
24:07
double. Like it's kind of two shots, 1.5
24:09
hits. Like we saw slash after the All
24:11
Star break last year just go on a tear.
24:12
Like he really channeled his inner Brady could Chuck.
24:15
He was like, that's kind of who you wanted to make his game
24:17
after and we saw it on the stat sheet.
24:19
So. It wasn't just the hits too, he
24:21
was also blocking. If you're lead counts blocks,
24:23
there's not many forwards who could consistently contribute to
24:25
that. Shots, it's points like he was
24:28
kind of doing it all and you were you would have games like
24:31
7-8 hits, five blocks randomly, like games that honestly like
24:35
really change the trajectory of your matchup.
24:37
So the fact that he has that in his bag is very impressive.
24:41
Does he keep PowerPoint 1? I think so.
24:43
I think that's the biggest question for his value.
24:44
Like if you lose P1 honestly I think that's like the biggest.
24:47
That they. Still be valuable, but he gets
24:50
more closer to Will Cooley territory.
24:52
You know what? I.
24:52
Mean, I just don't see any way he loses to our play one because
24:55
his challengers for power play 1 can't do the same archetype of
24:58
position that he does. He's the net front guy.
25:01
No one else on the Habs is a skilled net front guy.
25:04
You know, the guys who's challenging is pretty much
25:06
Demidov, right? But Demidov would have to slot
25:08
in for like a line or something like that because you can't have
25:10
five guys on the perimeter taking snipes.
25:12
You need a guy in front who can deflect it and kind of little
25:15
bit busy pucks. Yeah, exactly.
25:16
Kind of screen the goalie, go in the board to get the puck back
25:19
and retrieve it for the for the defenseman to restart the play.
25:22
So I don't think he's losing power play on anything's
25:24
possible, but I'd be very surprised.
25:27
Yeah, as you mentioned, Kevin, last year in the Four Nations
25:30
face off after he watched Brady to Chuck play, that was like the
25:34
switch that. Turns awakening.
25:36
Yeah, he said. I remember there was like a
25:38
quote that he always wanted to model his game after Patrick
25:41
Kane, but after seeing Brady to Chuck in the Four Nations he
25:43
decided that that's what he wants to model his game after.
25:46
Is the body that. He doesn't mean he's a unit.
25:49
He absolute monster 63240 What? There's a lot of things that he
25:57
do physically. OK. 21 years old.
26:07
Quit. Repeating that one for Kevin.
26:12
OK, OK, OK. Let me let me ask you, what do
26:15
you think is floor is that wise this season?
26:18
OK, So what do you mean like like categories?
26:21
Shots like hits like, what do you think?
26:23
Like, you know, let's say worst case scenario, what's gonna
26:26
happen for him? I don't, I think.
26:29
I think the point floor is 50. Like I actually think that he
26:32
could get 50 points as a floor. But if he does that, that means
26:36
that he's off power play 1. And where you guys said, I know
26:39
you think it's a big blow to his value, no doubt about it.
26:42
But if he does that, then I see him being like a triple, triple
26:47
and like with a block a game which is. 3 Three shots a game
26:51
would be tough I think. Yeah, the shots is the hardest
26:53
part of that, but I fully agree with the hits and blocks.
26:55
Yeah, I think, I think the average over three hits the end
26:58
this year. Yeah, over three hits, OK, fine.
27:01
Let's say 2 1/2 shots maybe, and then a block.
27:04
I mean, that's that's elite that if you pick that, that gives you
27:08
the freedom to pick a guy like Lane Hudson who's maybe not
27:11
gonna do anything in the back categories.
27:13
Another on the same team, but whatever.
27:14
But he'll be like an amazing point scoring defenseman.
27:17
These are the type of guys, sorry.
27:19
Power play stack. That's it.
27:21
That could be really fun. But if he were, I don't see him
27:25
getting a point per game, truly. But I see 70 points and if he
27:28
can do that triple double type dynamic or double, triple, I
27:32
forget what we want to call it. Yeah, I'm elated with that.
27:36
And of these people that we listed, I mean, obviously he's
27:39
he's number six out of 10. So he's in the top five of the
27:42
bottom 5. But he's the one that I'm most
27:44
comfortable reaching on because I think he has that amazing
27:47
category floor. So I'm huge on Slomkowski.
27:50
Here I do think that he's a bit different than the rest of this
27:53
top ten because where I see him taking the biggest step is like
27:56
we've mentioned in the back hats while also taking a step in the
27:59
points cats. But all the other guys were
28:00
mentioning, it's mostly like I think they're gonna take a big
28:02
point point step and then, you know, the backups might follow a
28:05
little bit. But this guy like very big cats
28:07
guy and then also we'll take a point step.
28:09
So it's an interesting comparison to the rest of the.
28:11
List let me ask you cause I'm I mean he's playing with Garfield
28:14
and Suzuki like doesn't get better than that on Montreal for
28:17
the moment. If he keeps that power play 1
28:19
exposure. Who are you taking Slough or
28:22
Matthew Noyes? Are there do do we speak about
28:26
this one? I think, I said.
28:29
I think, I think we did. And we had spoken about this.
28:32
I I said Slough and I'm sticking with Slough.
28:35
I mean, he's, he's good. I think he's gonna be a 4th, 5th
28:40
round pick this year because I'm.
28:43
I'm expecting. I'm expecting.
28:44
No, I'm thinking Slough. I mean, OK, I think Nice will be
28:47
around the same range. As worse laugh goes, I think
28:49
you'll have to make the choice between the two of them.
28:52
Yeah, I'm still going nice, but but I think they're both gonna
28:55
be a very nice Yeah. Is this Suzuki is not Matthews
29:01
in the eyes of most fantasy players.
29:04
But the truth is like, who's gonna be getting more assist
29:08
this year between the Suzuki and Matthews?
29:11
Suzuki. I think Suzuki breaks 90 points
29:13
this year. Who's gonna get more points?
29:16
I have no idea. So for all intents and purposes,
29:18
was a better gonna. Get more points than Suzuki.
29:20
Love Suzuki but getting more. Points for sure I.
29:23
Wanted to say for sure guys, really not.
29:26
Say that are you learning? Do you like you like there's
29:31
jump or or more of a Matthews that step back?
29:34
I mean, I don't think it's any of those.
29:37
Like last year, Nick Suzuki had 89 points in 82 games and
29:46
Matthews had 78 and 67. I mean, that's significantly
29:50
more on a point per game basis. Yeah, that's on the point per
29:54
game. It's you'd have to be betting on
29:56
another Matthews injury for Suzuki to get more points in my
29:59
opinion. But regardless, it's still fair
30:02
to say slap over nice. I just think that once.
30:04
I think their points will be kind of similar, probably give
30:07
the edge knives for sure, but I just think that the slap will be
30:12
such a big force in the back categories that it'll cover the
30:15
gap and I'd rather have the gate.
30:16
It is more all-encompassing and is hitting three times a game
30:20
and one block a game. Would you guys take slap over
30:23
Cofield? Yes, yes, it depends on if
30:28
you're if you're Leaf really favors goals.
30:30
I think I'm obviously going Cofield, but I think if you're
30:35
in a categories league or you're bangers league, I think you have
30:37
to take laugh. Because Coffield like it's not
30:40
just the goals and points, which he's obviously gonna do better
30:42
than Slough in, but the shots, which is huge.
30:45
You know slaps edge on Cofield is only in hits and blocks.
30:47
The thing is in bangers league it's it's too big of a
30:49
difference. Like you're you're adding,
30:51
you're doing, you know, maybe, maybe coffee averages 11.5 shots
30:55
more, but slab averages three hits more and a block a game.
30:58
Like that's just too much to overcome, I think.
31:01
But it's your question would would you take?
31:04
OK, now this is not this is not a good one, but.
31:07
I just interject for a second like, yeah, the thing with with
31:10
Matthews like, well, I just wanna like go back to that
31:12
really quickly. Matthews is not necessarily
31:16
going to bring out the value the way the others will.
31:19
And I can definitely assure you that call field is going to
31:21
bring it out more than Michelle. But it could be Neil under on
31:24
that line. That would be a pretty loaded I
31:27
mean. Would you?
31:27
Would you? Would you rather?
31:28
Would you rather switch or Slough?
31:31
Slough. For the price sloth.
31:34
I've never taking a Carolina Hurricane player.
31:37
Hold on. Hold on, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
31:38
split the difference Slough from the Trushkin.
31:41
Slough Nichushkin has he when he's on his game.
31:44
I would take the chicken but he has so many question Marks and
31:46
he's always injured and suspended and whatever, it's not
31:49
worth the headache. Kevin, you wanna do one more and
31:52
then we'll wrap up this one. Yeah, OK, let me think.
31:55
Slap or yes, brat. Brat.
31:58
Ooh. Guess for Brad is the best
32:00
player in the NHL. No, I mean, obviously it's a
32:06
different type of player, but yeah, that's difference is just
32:08
too huge. This goes down to like roster
32:11
construction but probably probably slap if.
32:17
You guys are crazy. You know, you know, I'm a
32:21
certified yes for Brad Hader. Apparently, yeah.
32:23
You guys are so low on rat you have like.
32:26
No, I started. I like that is like Marty
32:29
manages rat is like Marty natures to me and Jiggy love
32:32
natures. Like you're gonna take Slough
32:34
over naches. No.
32:36
Yeah. And Brad is probably getting
32:38
more points than he's next year. Slash first time goes.
32:42
Slough for sure. Yeah, you gotta like people are
32:47
like, what about for geeky? Honestly, I'm going geeky.
32:55
Sneaky. Too, No.
32:57
Stamkos is like, I mean, yeah, he could be a great bounce back
33:00
candidate, but like, no. OK, Slapper Marchenko.
33:04
Marchenko, obviously. Marchenko.
33:06
OK, I thought Jake was gonna give us something special.
33:09
Marchenko. For Michael.
33:11
No, no, this is way. This is way too many.
33:14
OK, so The thing is, I just want to say the reason that I'm
33:18
higher on nature is because I think he's gonna get more goals.
33:21
That's it. That's the back to what you were
33:23
saying before, Josh. Because you said yesterday,
33:25
shorties. Nobody cares about shorts except
33:28
us. Very, very short enough.
33:29
Very. Sean Kingston No.
33:32
No. No, Kevin.
33:33
No, No. Ohk OK, I'm going to the next
33:35
one. No, it's done.
33:37
Yeah, OHT days over. Party is over, you don't have to
33:42
go. Home, but you can't stay here.
33:44
Yeah, exactly. So that wraps it up for the.
33:51
Wait, just one, One more, one more.
33:52
How do I what? Wait one more?
33:56
OK, hold. On last, can you?
33:57
Can you? Can you?
33:58
Change the Robertson or Slough. Robertson.
34:00
Jason Robertson. OK, yeah, I'm awake.
34:03
You your FYI what? I'm low on Robertson this year.
34:07
What are you doing? Takes left.
34:10
I don't know if Robertson, I think that that 100 point year
34:13
is a flash in the pan and I feel like he's more of like a 80
34:16
point guy. He would takes laugh.
34:18
I think I would take laugh cause I think I.
34:21
That's crazy, no? I love it though only about
34:22
crazy. What if Robertson does 80 points
34:25
and 2.5 shots a game? No, no, it's not crazy.
34:27
I love it. It's I don't agree, but I love
34:30
it. Alright, let's wrap this up.
34:33
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35:02
Woo woo woo. I was ready this time.
35:06
For your time. I didn't catch you off guard.
35:08
I'm disappointed, yeah. I was.
35:11
I was locked in on that one.