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Kamala 2028? One Person Close to Her Has Serious Doubts · 3 Martini Lunch – Political Humor & Commentary

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
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  Speaker 2: Grab a stool next to Greg Karambas of Radio America
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  Speaker 2: and Jim Garrity of National Review.
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  Speaker 3: Three martinis coming up. It is Three Martini Lunch. My
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  Speaker 3: name is Craig Colonese. He is Jim Garrity. I am
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  Speaker 3: in for Greg Karambas. And the co-host of my show
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  Speaker 3: in Houston asked if we actually drink three martinis during
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  Speaker 3: this show and recommended we should.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if we've ever tried it, Jim, but
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  Speaker 4: I'm down one of these days.
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  Speaker 2: That's actually one of the questions I get most often
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  Speaker 2: about this program. And, uh, I think, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: whether that says we don't sound sober.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, we don't, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: The show would get goof.
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  Speaker 2: I actually don't know how often Greg and I end
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  Speaker 2: up going off on like diehard tangents or eighties and
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  Speaker 2: nineties movies and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: That kind of makes sense. I understand why they ask,
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  Speaker 1: but no, no, Sober as a judge.
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  Speaker 4: OK, it's never been. Well, who knows?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we can do a remote show at a bar
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  Speaker 3: and really get sloshed like that one person went viral.
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  Speaker 3: There was a viral politician who was very drunk on TV.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the topic for today. We'll
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  Speaker 3: probably save that for some other time. Lots and lots
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  Speaker 3: of things to talk about, though. John Ossoff, of course,
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  Speaker 3: in the news and stayed in the news a lot
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  Speaker 3: because Democrats should pick him to be their 2028 candidate.
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  Speaker 4: They likely will not. What do you have on this one, Jim?
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: This is courtesy of the Washington Sun, this new publication
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  Speaker 2: out there that used to be Notice or Not Us,
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  Speaker 2: News of the United States. But they say that John
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  Speaker 2: Ossoff says he is not going to run for president.
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  Speaker 2: He has no interest in running for president. He will
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  Speaker 2: serve a full term if he is reelected in his
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  Speaker 2: reelection bid in Georgia this year, which most people think
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  Speaker 2: he's been leading the polls pretty handily. No, I don't
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  Speaker 2: say this like as a fan of John Ossoff. I
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  Speaker 2: just sometimes like to take off my independent conservative right
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  Speaker 2: of center guy hat and just think, like, if I
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  Speaker 2: were a Democrat, what would I want? And one of
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  Speaker 2: my crazier ideas is a ticket that would consist of
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  Speaker 2: John Ossoff, the senator from Georgia, and Josh Shapiro, the
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  Speaker 2: governor of Pennsylvania, for an all-Jewish Democratic ticket, really upsetting
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  Speaker 2: everybody who's upset about Gaza, but also just kind of
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  Speaker 2: recognizing that, like, you know, Pennsylvania is probably the single
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  Speaker 2: most important swing state. You nominate a governor who's been
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  Speaker 2: elected statewide a couple of times, probably going to win
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  Speaker 2: re-election by a wide margin. That would only help you
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  Speaker 2: in that state. And John Ossoff is probably going to
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  Speaker 2: win for the second time by a pretty solid margin
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  Speaker 2: in one of the seven most important states. And he's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's fairly young. It's a southern state, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like I'm just thinking strategically, this is a guy who
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  Speaker 2: you think we, and he says he's not interested. Now,
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  Speaker 2: of course, Barack Obama was on Meet the Press in
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  Speaker 2: like 2007 and said, oh, I'm not interested in running
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  Speaker 2: for president. Of course, I was like, it's 2006, I
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  Speaker 2: guess it was. And he says, I'm not interested in running.
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  Speaker 2: And of course, then he turns around and runs. It's
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  Speaker 2: possible John Ossoff is lying, but you create headaches for
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  Speaker 2: yourself when you say, I'm absolutely not going to run
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  Speaker 2: for president.
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  Speaker 1: And then like a couple months later, you announce you're
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  Speaker 1: running for president.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know whether he thinks he's got a
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  Speaker 2: shot to be somebody's running mate or he genuinely does
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  Speaker 2: not want to run. But I just found it interesting.
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  Speaker 2: And I think if you're a Republican... If he really
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  Speaker 2: doesn't run, that takes off. That takes one of the
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  Speaker 2: more intriguing chess pieces.
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  Speaker 1: Off the board.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I was thinking about that more from the
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  Speaker 3: same context. Brandon Gill is a young Republican that gets
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  Speaker 3: a lot of attention. I doubt he'll be running for
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  Speaker 3: president anytime soon, but he does a very similar thing
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  Speaker 3: to John, where during certain questions he goes viral for
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  Speaker 3: the way he asks his questions, the back.
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  Speaker 4: And forth during testimony questions.
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  Speaker 3: For that reason, I would assume that Ossoff would be
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  Speaker 3: a much stronger candidate on the left than most others
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  Speaker 3: they can put up there. And yet I'd be thrilled
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  Speaker 3: that they don't do that. I would be thrilled that
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't go that route at all. So hopefully he's
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  Speaker 3: telling the truth, Jim, is what I'm saying, even though
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  Speaker 3: I would not ever vote for the man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And again, just one of the things that makes it
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  Speaker 2: surprising is that candidates have a lot of ways of
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  Speaker 2: kind of punting on that question. Ah, you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: too early to talk about it or I haven't thought
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  Speaker 2: about it. You know, deep down, like if you are
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  Speaker 2: every senator looks in the mirror and and hums hail
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  Speaker 2: to the chief and sees a president staring back at them.
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  Speaker 2: So like, oh, I just haven't thought, it's not terribly plausible.
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  Speaker 1: He seems to be closing the door entirely.
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  Speaker 2: And if he does change his mind, he's going to
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  Speaker 2: have this played back to him considerably.
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  Speaker 4: So we'll see how it goes. I love that example.
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  Speaker 3: It actually just made me think of like every guy
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  Speaker 3: sitting on the bench at a professional basketball game and
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  Speaker 3: ask them, have you ever thought about going in?
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  Speaker 4: No, I've never thought about going in. Would I want
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  Speaker 4: to play?
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  Speaker 1: No. How dare you?
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  Speaker 4: Why would you ask me to do that?
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  Speaker 3: And now we move on to the bad. And apparently
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  Speaker 3: we're going to double fists and martinis during this one.
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  Speaker 3: Cause we have two terrible things that are genuinely somewhat
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  Speaker 3: tied together. Uh, inflation numbers bad. That is part one.
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  Speaker 3: And then we'll get to part two in just a second. Um,
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  Speaker 3: Are these numbers at all surprising to you, Jim?
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  Speaker 4: What do you think about it?
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  Speaker 2: So the general gist is not. I don't think anyone expected.
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  Speaker 2: So it's three percent annual pace in September. As you'd expect,
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  Speaker 2: gas and energy prices have spiked sharply. Everybody's been talking
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  Speaker 2: about diesel fuel for a long time. And when people say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like the Fed's goal is two percent.
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  Speaker 1: And for a long stretch pre-COVID, that's what we had.
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  Speaker 2: And most people just didn't think about inflation that much.
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  Speaker 2: So 2% is where like you don't, that's room temperature.
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  Speaker 2: That's where you don't notice it. Now you can say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, around 3%, which is where it's been since,
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  Speaker 2: you know, mid 2023 or so. That's not as bad
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  Speaker 2: as the 9% it was in 2022, but it still
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  Speaker 2: is higher. And as somebody points out, it's cumulative, right?
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  Speaker 2: You know, people are waiting for prices to go back
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  Speaker 2: to quote unquote normal, and they never do. 3.7%, That's
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  Speaker 2: kind of high. That's higher than we were looking for.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be the last one before the midterm elections,
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  Speaker 2: not the number that Republicans wanted to see, not the
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  Speaker 2: number that anybody wanted to see.
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  Speaker 1: And I think this is, you know, it just, if
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  Speaker 1: you're in a bad mood as you go to the polls...
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  Speaker 1: Nothing out today is going to change your mind.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's where it blends to the second part of this.
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  Speaker 3: As we're seeing, the GOP is very much expecting to
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  Speaker 3: lose the House. A lot of projections seem to think
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  Speaker 3: the House is a foregone conclusion. The Senate, a toss-up
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  Speaker 3: at best for Republicans. This is probably the leading reason why.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, you know, Republicans went into this with
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  Speaker 2: a very small margin, right? So you didn't have anything
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  Speaker 2: you could lose. I had done my back-of-the-envelope math of
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  Speaker 2: the redistricting they did in Texas and a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: other states, and I said, okay, There are probably eight
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  Speaker 2: more districts that are more friendly to that. I believe
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  Speaker 2: there's a three-seat margin right now with a vacancy. So
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  Speaker 2: you say, okay, usually there's like a four-seat margin. You
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  Speaker 2: do that, throw in eight. Well, it's not so bad. Well,
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  Speaker 2: your home state, the redistricting of the border county, the
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  Speaker 2: area of the districts down by the southern border, were
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  Speaker 2: all based on the idea that Latinos were going to
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  Speaker 2: vote Republican now and forever.
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  Speaker 1: They are not.
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  Speaker 2: They're pretty irked with the president. Things are not looking
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  Speaker 2: great there. And so it just sounds like senior Republican
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  Speaker 2: leaders have basically given up hope. They just don't see
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  Speaker 2: any way that they keep the House. Not exactly shocking,
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  Speaker 2: but a frustrating confirmation of where things were going. I
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  Speaker 2: think they stopped supporting some incumbents like Tom King Jr.
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  Speaker 2: It's now triage. It is now just how many of
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  Speaker 2: our guys can we save? You know, at this point,
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  Speaker 2: we are right around mid-October. It looks like it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a blue wave election. And, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: remember back in 2006, you start losing seats you never
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  Speaker 2: thought you were going to lose. When things get really bad,
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  Speaker 2: you know, go out and vote. Nothing is settled yet.
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  Speaker 2: But again, not looking good for Republicans right now.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and I think we talked about this a little
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  Speaker 3: bit yesterday, but I'll touch on it again. When you
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  Speaker 3: watch money flooding into places where you think that elections
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  Speaker 3: are secure, it does two things. One says we're not
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  Speaker 3: going to have that money to throw at the elections
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  Speaker 3: that might have been more competitive had we had these
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  Speaker 3: safer ones to keep without spending money on. And it
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  Speaker 3: also seems to scream... oh, we're really scared that we're
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  Speaker 3: going to lose a whole bunch of places. And especially
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  Speaker 3: when you talk about the Senate beyond the House, which is,
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  Speaker 3: I think, for a while been projected to flip sides.
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  Speaker 3: When you actually look at the math of the Senate,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't seem good, even though we call it a
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  Speaker 3: toss up for Republicans having a shot at actually retaining control.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, one of the reasons people felt like
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  Speaker 2: there was just the range of outcomes was smaller is
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  Speaker 2: that they're just there are fewer competitive House districts. Gerrymandering
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  Speaker 2: has not just happened in Republican states. It's also happening
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  Speaker 2: in California, other Democrats.
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  Speaker 1: States.
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  Speaker 2: And there just aren't... When you put, ah, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to draw this line to give the Republicans the most
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  Speaker 2: safe seats, well, then you tend to put a lot
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  Speaker 2: of Democratic voters all into one district, so they become
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  Speaker 2: harder to win back that seat. So Um, you know,
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  Speaker 2: while the ceiling for a democratic, uh, house is probably
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  Speaker 2: lower than it used to be. It also suggests the
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  Speaker 2: floor is higher than it used to be too. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: probably Republicans look like they're going to be on the
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  Speaker 2: short end of the stick on that one in November.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Amen.
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  Speaker 3: And now we move on to our crazy martini. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton, I think, was in this spot. Today, it
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  Speaker 3: is Kamala Harris, which makes me very happy. And part
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  Speaker 3: of me would like for them to run as co-presidents.
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  Speaker 3: No vice-president. Two co-presidents, whole bunch of chaos, 2028. But
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  Speaker 3: Harris is in the news. The AP is talking about
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  Speaker 3: how she's helping candidates now with a likely mine toward 2028.
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  Speaker 4: What say you, Jim?
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  Speaker 2: First of all, Craig, as you're putting that, the idea
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  Speaker 2: is coming in my head. Clinton-Harris 2028, laughter is the
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  Speaker 2: best medicine.
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  Speaker 1: Nonsensical.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: You know, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, so the Associated Press says that Harris is
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  Speaker 2: doing a lot of stops and events for Democratic candidates
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  Speaker 2: in 2026. The schedule suggests that this is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: building up chits and favors and helping out all that
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  Speaker 2: stuff with the 2028 bid in mind. The other thing
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  Speaker 2: that struck me as interesting, this was a couple of
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  Speaker 2: days ago, Wall Street Journal reported that her husband, Doug Emhoff,
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  Speaker 2: is not privately telling people he kind of hopes she
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  Speaker 2: doesn't run. He hopes she does not. Now, people might say, look,
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  Speaker 2: you know, You're the husband. You're going to go along
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  Speaker 2: with it. It doesn't really matter. Look, this is one
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  Speaker 2: of the things that anybody who is seriously thinking about president,
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  Speaker 2: like you need your spouse and your family on board.
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  Speaker 2: You do not need that headache, that distraction, that you
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  Speaker 2: need the spouse and the family to participate, whether it's
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  Speaker 2: photo ops or first husband, spouse event type thing.
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  Speaker 1: This is important.
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  Speaker 2: If she runs, I don't doubt that Doug Emhoff is
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  Speaker 2: going to act like he's very supportive. But I kind
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  Speaker 2: of– it's very– if there's anybody who you might have
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  Speaker 2: thought would be, let's go for this, you know, my
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  Speaker 2: wife can do it.
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  Speaker 1: They've been through this before, not that long ago. And
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  Speaker 1: I think one of the– you know, as much as
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  Speaker 1: I– I ridiculed a lot out of 107 Days. Sure.
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  Speaker 2: But about two-thirds of the way through the book, she
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  Speaker 2: just describes a fight that she and Doug Amoff had
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  Speaker 2: in a hotel room. It's late at night. They're exhausted.
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  Speaker 2: They're getting bad news. And they just kind of get
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  Speaker 2: the feeling that, like, they're, you know, like– many married
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  Speaker 2: couples probably have these kinds of fights or this kind
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  Speaker 2: of feeling when you're like, you're not supporting me when
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  Speaker 2: I need you and vice versa. It was a very
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  Speaker 2: humanizing moment in that I kind of, you know, whatever
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  Speaker 2: else you think of them politically, you kind of feel
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  Speaker 2: bad for them being in this extremely difficult situation. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know whether it's moments like that, that have Emhoff
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  Speaker 2: not a hundred percent enthusiastic. I would say that like,
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  Speaker 2: if you're not 110% committed to this, you probably shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: run because one, your chances of success are not great.
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  Speaker 2: And two, it's going to be exhausting. It's going to
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  Speaker 2: be stressful. It is going to test you.
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  Speaker 1: And think about it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's 32 teams run, compete in the NFL season. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the Jets and Giants are never the winners.
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  Speaker 2: Only one team wins. So thus, unless you're like, you
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  Speaker 2: were terrible and you're pretty good. Most teams feel like
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  Speaker 2: their seasons ended disappointment. Most presidential candidates, these ended disappointment.
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  Speaker 2: Harris has, you know, does she have some huge advantages
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  Speaker 2: and name ID and money?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Does she have some huge disadvantages.
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  Speaker 2: And has she just lost and lost all seven swing
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  Speaker 2: States and lost the popular vote?
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like, so we'll see what she does, but I, that
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  Speaker 2: we might see that as kind of a, um, canary
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  Speaker 2: in the coal mine. If she ends up not running,
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  Speaker 2: despite all the talk there's been over the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of years.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: And you're absolutely right about the jets and the giants.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: They can't play the Browns every single week.
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: Can they? It would be great if they could play
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: a Browns every week.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: Browns Titans, you know, we need a handful of teams to, you.
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: Know, Amen.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: And now we're on to The Chaser, which actually is
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: the thing that I have the most to say about,
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: and I'm not going to do it because there's so.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: Okay, unless we can.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Shane Gillis was on Saturday Night Live and had a
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: lot of backlash to a set of jokes he made.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure which ones you specifically want to reference.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: I assume the gym ones about the gym attire. He
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: also made a joke about him looking like Hitler, and
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: then he used the word gay at one point, which
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: people are also mad about. But the gym attire one,
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: essentially Shane Gillis on television said... women are going to
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: the gym dressed as whores. Those are his words, not mine.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: A lot of people upset. How do you want to respond, Jim?
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Well, so my favorite response had been the joke who
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: said that Shane Gillis came up with a way to
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: get every hot woman who wears really tight yoga pants
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: and a sports bra to send pictures, to put pictures
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: on social media saying, hey, Shane Gillis, I am not
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: a whore.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Look at me, you know. Look, it's a free country.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Wear what you want to the gym. It is. But,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Some of them are pretty darn tight and revealing. They are.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: But so here's my, the curious thing is like, well,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: you know, Craig, can you believe we're talking about Saturday
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Night Live? No. As somebody was saying like, oh, this
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: is distracting from all my other favorite parts of Saturday.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Night Live, which are kind of sparse these days, right?
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: They are.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: So I have, my theory, I shared this on the
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: editor's podcast yesterday. So we had the Lindsay Clancy controversy
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago and then it kind of
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: died down. And then we had the Cornell 7, and
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: that controversy peaked, and then it kind of died down. Obviously,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: men bad, women good, stirring up the sisterhood, all that
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. I feel like it's like somebody pushed
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: a button. It's like somebody wants this to be the
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: next big men versus women sex-based controversy. We're less than
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: a month away from the midterms. It just feels, something
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: about this feels kind of artificial or forced or contrived.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Like somebody wants this to happen in a way that
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: most other, you know, social media controversies don't seem to be.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Am I crazy or paranoid or?
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: No, no. Here's the thing, though.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: And part of me thinks it's just because it's Shane Gillis.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is I think he's
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: hosted SNL three times now. The left hates it every
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: time he hosts because he does joke as if he
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: is a conservative. He doesn't say that he's one, but
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: he does make jokes that seem at some times friendly
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: to Trump, all kinds of things. And Shane Gillis probably
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: wants this because he's the one who writes that set
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: and he knows what the reaction will be in New York.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: And my favorite part about every time he hosts and
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: does the monologue is people obsessed with how little people
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: seem to be laughing at his jokes in the audience.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: And I think it just fuels him further. So whether
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: or not this is something being pushed out by some
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: outside source, all of those involved, SNL fans, You know,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Shane himself all wanted to go viral for opposite reasons.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: And here's the most important point. He's right.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Women do dress ridiculously at the gym and men are
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: not allowed to look at any of them. And my
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: favorite joke he made is that he's in the back
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: of a bunch of photos staring like he's not supposed
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: to because he's famous and doesn't care. But the rest
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: of us go to the gym and pretend the hot
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: lady with nothing on is not distracting at all.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Listeners, viewers, I just want to say this.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Craig Colignese, who is saying this, not Jim Garrity, but nonetheless,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: if you feel offended, you may send selfies to me
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: and I will tell you, no, you look just fine.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: You're doing just great.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Doing great.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think your finger's on the pulse there, Craig.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Sure, yeah.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: You can see the pulse based on how thin the
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: material is. in some of these workout clothes.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: And what's so funny to me, too, about this, and
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I don't mean to make this drag on for too long,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: but I can't help it, is why can't we just
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: get over it? Like, if it is kind of true,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: and if we can all acknowledge it's kind of true,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: why do people have to be so mad that he
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: said it? Why do we have to be in that
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: version of society and not just, all right, fine, he
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: said a thing, he joked about it, he's probably a
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: bit of a perv, let's move on.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, so again, here I am extending it even further.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: What he's doing there is this social media, I don't
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: know if it's a meme, but just this observation. Yes,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: some women go to the gym wearing very skimpy clothing.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: And the idea is that they get offended. Oh, these
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: guys are, you know. And the thinking is, it's like, well,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: you're wearing.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Next to nothing. And it's hot pink. And, you know, like, well,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: of course they're going to notice.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: And the general complaint of men is that, like, look,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: you want to be noticed by the hot guy.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: You don't want to be noticed by the normal guy.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: He's a creep. He's a weirdo. But if the right
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: kind of guy notices, well, that's good.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Whether or not you buy into that theory or not,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I think there's at least a little bit of truth
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: to that. Always be nice to people in the gym.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: That's our closing message for the day.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Lift weights blindfolded. That's my message.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: What's the worst that could happen?
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: This is another episode of 3 Martini Lunch. I'm always
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: thrilled to be here. He is Jim Garrity. I'm Craig Colonese.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: See you guys tomorrow.