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100. [Louisiana] The Axeman of New Orleans · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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Every one. I'm welcome to bless us Messing the True Front Podcast. I
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don't care. It was too says do right, all right, so back
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this week we are going to This is actually our un hundredth Oh my goodness,
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I can't talk hundredth episodes, do is it now? Yes, it
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only took us. We did it years. I know most podcasts that started
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around the same time of us have like three hundred episodes. But you know
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what, we took two and a half years. We took a long time
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off. We're not we weren't that consistent, but we've been doing really good
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since we came back. I will say I weren't happy many of you are
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still here. Yes, we we missed a couple of weeks here and there,
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but that was unforeseen for Seen. For Seen, it was for Saying,
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because we weren't recording him as fast as we should have been. Yeah,
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well but no, but I mean there was like we had like vacations
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or things, trips, things that went on that we just could not do
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it. So anyway, so yeah, this is our hundredth episodes. We're
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going to do a special episode kind of like our Crescent Hotel one a little
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bit along those lines. This once, this was like a something way way
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back when, back in nineteen eighteen, We're going to cover the Axemen of
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New Orleans. Just do have you heard of this? I have not.
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Yes, I feel like some people you would have heard of it. No,
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you saw it. The reason I even knew about it was because in
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American Horror story in Coven, remember there was the they called him the Jasmine
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jazz Man, not Jasmine the jazz Man of New Orleans. I think because
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you'll see why in the story why they he was referred to as well as
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the jazz Man of New Orleans. But remember the the og Witch was dating
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the Axmen of New Orleans for an episode. Do you remember that anyways?
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But that's how I first heard about it, and then so I did some
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research and here we are doing it as our hundredth episode. But Maria Labo
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going to be in her tay, No she is not. She we could
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do one on her. We did do one on her, and like a
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little sport of like that, quit did the Halloween special special with some other
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podcasts or whatever. So that are doing much better than us because they didn't
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quit like we did. Anyways, So check us out on some announcements.
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Check us on a patreon dot com slash buss This mess podcast for early access
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hate them. Trust me, I heard about it on when I posted about
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it on the Facebook or Instagram. That's why I don't even post anymore because
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I don't want to hear about it how much you guys. I was bombarded
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with messages the first time I said we were going to start doing this.
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As you can see, we're not getting rid of the original like are in
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guys believe, but a lot of people do like them. We get quite
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a few downloads on those, so just FYI and they don't say yeah,
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so so there. Now we appreciate I appreciate your enthusiasm for our original episodes.
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I do appreciate that you are afraid they were They were afraid they were
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going away, but they're not so he was. I'm catching up on those
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a little less messes. We have our buy meat Coffee dot com. You
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can check all that out in the show notes Instagram, Facebook. I just
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post a video about we went. I got to went to Dwight's in Lafayette
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got Sunday barbecue today. Why are you looking at me like that, Stu.
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I'm listening to Stu stay at home with the children, thank God,
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because the toddler wanted to come with me and I had no we had gotten
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Dwight. We we we used to live on the other side of town and
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we moved maybe two years ago, but we used to go to the same
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barbecue place every Sunday. It was Veronicas on the other side of town.
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Loved it, and then it got it blew up. They started having to
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have a police like direct traffic to get to it. I know, I'm
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like, So then we stopped going there just because it was like you could
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you if you didn't get there early enough, you either you had to sit
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in line. And also it was just it would be gone, like the
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brisk i would run out. So anyways, we moved to this sidetown.
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We did try a place. I'm not even gonna throw him under the bus
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because it was terrible. We tried one of the places kind of close to
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our house, and then I remember we'd gone to Dwight's a couple of years
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ago one time when Veronica's was closed for that Sunday and it was really good.
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But man, it's like, you have to look at the video on
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the Instagram. It's in the Facebook. It's the line was insane when I
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walked in. So anyways, but yeah, Steve's tired of me talking already,
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He's just staring at me. I've already pressed thirty seconds four whatever.
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Anyways, all right, so there's our announcements and everything like that. We
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have a special episode coming up in the next couple of weeks because Stu and
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I and the children are going on a cruise. Everybody, Yeah, why
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are you sitting saying that I didn't know? Yes, you do. He's
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so stupid. Anyways, Anyways, we're going on a cruise. We have
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a special episode for that, two special episodes actually, so we'll talk about
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those probably the next three hour tour. No it's not a three hour tour,
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oh no. Stupiled up episodes of the Love Boat and thinks I'm gonna
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sit here and watch this. He's like, this is where we're going.
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Though. I didn't realize the love Boat was actually about a cruise. I've
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never seen this before, but I guess it's about princess cruise lines. I'm
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sure that's how they advertised. Yeah. Anyways, all right, so enough
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of that, I guess we'll go ahead. All right, now, we
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definitely need to get into this murder, so without any more delay. Further
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Ado, I hate saying that, without any more delay, let's get into
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the Axemen of New Orleans. All right, So the Axemen of New Orleans.
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I'll be honest with you, guys. I wrote this episode, and
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I forgot to write I feel like maybe you should have been an intro to
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the Axemen of New Orleans, but I didn't write one. So basically,
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he killed people with an axe. This in Louisiana, New Orleans, Louisiana
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with an axe from like nineteen eighteen to nineteen nineteen. He attacked multiple people,
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killed multiple people. So anyway, so we're going to go through them
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all. This would be a little history lesson for you. This is a
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real event that happened in history. Stud You're saying all the other ones that
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we cover, they are, it's just when you start going back to like
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the nineteen eighteens and stuff. I just want people to know it's real.
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It's not a legend. It's not a legend. Despite there being no iPhone
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footage of this happening, it did in fact. Okay, so we'll start
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with our first attack. On May twenty third, nineteen eighteen, Jake and
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Andrew Maggio walked into their brother and sisters laws home to find their brother Joseph
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barely alive and his wife Katherine dead. Stu. I will say, just
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to prefaces, he did. The axemen did attack a lot of Italian grocers,
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so we're not sure. They weren't sure if it was like a racial
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thing or what it was. So I think it probably had to do with
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he was a muffle out of vendor and he was trying to get rid of
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all these grocers that were competing with him selling muffle at us. No,
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no, I don't think that that. You know, that theory didn't come
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up, but we can cover it. We'll dive deep dive into that conspiracy
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theory here. Yes, so on okay, so, I said, May
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twenty third, nineteen eighteen. So Katherine's dead, Joe is barely alive.
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Just minutes after discovering the bloody scene, Joseph passed away. So now we
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have two dead bodies to police were called. Upon entering the home, they
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found a very bloody scene. Both Katherine and Joseph had their throat slit with
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a straight razor and their heads bashed in with an axe. This is brutal.
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When they murdered, when they Cereal killed back then they serial killed Stu.
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I mean, Richard Ramiros was pretty bad himself. But I'm just saying,
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like, this is some brutal stuff that you know, This is some
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Now did the good beat with the blade end or the blunt end of the
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axe? I believe a lot of it was the like he didn't always hit
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with the axe part. He flipped it over and hit with the blunt side.
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But it still you know, has some metal sharp edges, you know,
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Well yeah, I mean you would help to get it with, hit
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with the blade edge and just end it quickly instead of haven't being bludge in
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the depth what the other end? Now, Katherine's throat was cut so deep
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that she was nearly decapitated. Both the axe and straight razor belonged to the
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Maggio's, so they didn't bring the weapon with them. He found the weapon
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when he got there. Now, the killer had entered the home through the
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backdoor by cutting out a panel. The killer also left his bloody clothes behind,
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apparently changing into clean ones after he committed the murders. Now he wrote
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a message on the pavement outside the home, reading Missus Maggio will sit up
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tonight like Missus Tony. There arise to be a reference to Anthony and Joanna's
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Siambra. These were Italian green grocers who were attacked with an axe in nineteen
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eleven. Now, Joanna's Siambra was reportedly known by customers as Missus Tony.
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So this is where the connection's coming from. So the guy who killed the
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Maggio's was writing that Missus Maggio will sit up tonight like Missus Tony, and
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Missus Tony was killed seven years earlier in a similar fashion. So they don't
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know if they're connected or if it's just like a copycat situation. And he's
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the axemen saw how these people were murdered, and like it was like,
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oh, I want to do this. One day and then you know,
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went did it so police, and police initially suspected you're gonna hear some like
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this is some nineteen hundreds justice out here to you. I was in shock,
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like literally, you could just someone could just like say someone did something,
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and they're like, they did it. They did it. I'm sure
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they did. So. Police initially suspected the brother, but he was later
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ruled out. There were eyewitnesses saying that they saw a man lurking near the
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home prior to the murders. Now the case went unsolved, leaving the town
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of New Orleans on itch. A little over a month after the first murders,
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on June twenty seventh, nineteen eighteen, Louis Bessemer and his mistress,
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Harriet Lowe were attacked in the early morning hours in the quarters at the back
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of his grocery store, which was located at the corner Dergenois and Laharpe Streets.
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Lewis was struck with a hatchet right above his right temple, which resulted
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in impossible skull fracture, and low was hacked over the left ear and found
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unconscious when police arrived at the scene. The axeman's not the most efficient killer.
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I mean he struck. I mean he did real good the first time
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around, you know, with the two people alive. But he's just like
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hacking people in running away. Yeah, I guess he don't care if they
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die or not. He's just like smash. Yeah, maybe just now.
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The couple was discovered shortly after seven am on the morning of the attack by
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a fellow by the name of John Zanka. He was the driver of a
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bakery wagon who had come to the grocery store in order to make a routine
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delivery. Zanca found both Lewis and Low in a puddle of their own blood,
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both bleeding from their heads. The axe, which had belonged to Lewis
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himself, was found in the bathroom of the apartment. Lewis later stated to
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police that he had been sleeping when he was bashed with a hatchet. Now,
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there were some men who were arrested, mainly due to racial motives,
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but they were later released. Lewis himself was also arrested. When Harriet was
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in the hospital, she told police that he was a German spy, because
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you gotta remember this is around the time of World War One. Now he
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was released. She's in the hospital suffering from a head injury. She said
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in mind, and she said he's a spy. Yes, so they arrested
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him. Now. He was released two days later and the two detectives work
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in the case were demoted. However, a month later, Lewis would be
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arrested again when Harriet told police he attacked her while she lay on her deathbed
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after a failed surgery. He was convicted after the jury deliberated for ten minutes,
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and he served nine months in prison. Yeah, so she's on her
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she's so she had the injury, she had to have a surgery, and
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she wasn't making it through the surgery. So she's dying from this. And
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this is when she does this deathpend confession. She's like, Lewis did this
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to me and he's a German spy. Well. Harriet later died on August
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fifth, nineteen eighteen. Yes, that's what I'm telling you that you'll see
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there's crazy situations and when in terms of like justice in here, it's not
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really it's just I mean, she just she just like made this up.
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You know, you can tell she made this up. She's either suffering from
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some sort of some sort of head injury and made it up or she just
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had it out for old Lewis in the end, I don't know, but
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he did serve nine months in prison for this. Now, in August fifth,
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nineteen eighteen, Anna Schneider was attacked. She was eight months pregnant at
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the time. So she got attacked the same day that Old Harriet died.
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Yes, now she took his uh, his attacks were becoming more frequent.
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So before it was a month and now it's you know, not that long's
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he's again attacking somebody. So she was eight months pregnant at the time.
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She told police she awoke to a dark figure standing over her. He then
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began bashing her face. Now her scalp had been cut open and her face
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was completely covered in blood. Missus Schneider was discovered after midnight by her husband
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Et Schneider, who was returning late home late from work. Now Schneider claimed
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that she remembered nothing of the attack and gave birth to a healthy baby girl
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two days after the incident. Now her husband told police that nothing was stolen
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from the home besides six or seven dollars that had been in his wallet.
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The windows and doors of the apartment appeared to have not been forced open,
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and authorities came to the conclusion that the woman was most likely attacked with a
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lamp that had been on her nearby table. Now they arrested a man,
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but let him go. This is when police first began to pull that put
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together that all these attacks are associated with each other. On August tenth,
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nineteen eighteen, Pauline and Mary Bruno awoke to the sound of a commotion in
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the adraining room where their uncle, Joseph Romano resided. Upon entering the room,
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the sisters discovered that their uncle had taken a serious blow to his head,
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which resulted in two open cuts. The assailant was playing the scene as
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they arrived. The girls were able to distinguish that he was dark skinned,
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heavy set man, and he wore a dark suit and a slouch hat.
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All right, we had to pause to put the cat out again. Jesus,
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these animals is what I'm gone. It's like they know I a cat.
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It's kids. Yes, we got the kids put down for a nap,
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not put down just for a nap, But we can't get the cats
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put down, so not yet yet. Anyways, I'm kidding that we just
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loved the little buggers to death. Anyways. Yeah, so anyways, so
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we had to go let he wanted to go outside. It's so hot outside,
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but he can He'll be fine for a few minutes. Think yeah,
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he wants to really go outside. He can go outside and be like,
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Okay, this was this was a poor life choice that I wanted to go
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outside. So every time I walk outside, currently like, because this heat
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will not give up. Every time I walk as, I'm like, this
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was this was a poor choice. I should have just stayed. And it
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will not rain. The heat will not stay. No, it won't.
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It's so terrible. But these animals they keep wanting to they keep thinking it's
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going to change, and it's not like during the went like went fall months
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and stuff. We can't keep them. They want outside all the time.
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But they're not the most savvy cats, so we have to be They have
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to be contained on our back porch in the kids say face because they're not
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Yeah they're not. I mean, they're they're house cats. They're not street
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smart. He wouldn't make it, not at all. They need three snacks
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a day, they need you know, good meals with wet food. They
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need all that couch, they need filtered water flowing filtered water. And when
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Stu said the slouch hat, the slouch hat, how would you describe it,
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Sue, It's when those round brim hats that's kind of slash slouchy.
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Well, you can fold it up on the side or whatever. The world
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were one, like the Australians were a lot of slouch hats back in World
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War One. Well, anyways, I remember that is how the axemen is
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normally depicted. He's he's got the round the brim hat and then one side
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usually folded up. Yeah, sometimes you can button there's a button on the
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side, or use a strap. That all. It's a slouchy hat,
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slouchy. It's not a stiff brimmed head. It's a slouchy, brimmed tad
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slouchy had now Joseph, although seriously injured, he was able to walk to
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the ambulance once it did arrive, but he did die two days later due
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to severe head trauma. The home had been ransacked, yet there was no
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item stolen from Joseph, and authorities found a bloody axe in the backyard and
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discovered that a panel on the back door had been chiseled away. The Joseph
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Romano murder created a state of extreme crack chaos in the city, with residents
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living in constant fear of an axeman attack. Yes, this is because this
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is now, this is our fourth attack a total. There's what one,
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two, three, four, he's the fourth murder and but it's four attacks,
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and so we've had four people die in four separate attacks. So it's
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it's starting to cause chaos. It's word is spreading about that there's a crazy
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man with an axe ring around town and no one who knows who it is
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except for he's wearing a fashionable hat in a suit. Yes, he ain't
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going he ain't dressed like he's going to Walmart. Now he's dressed up.
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He's dressed like he's going to target. Yeah. So now police began getting
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several reports of people saying that they had seen the axemen, some saying they
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found axes in their backyards. So we weren't an hysteria. Now, so
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everybody's seen him. Everybody's seen an axe every you know, like when it
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starts getting the police say, it started getting hundreds of tips because people just
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drewing a Oh my god, I thought I saw my brother looking at me.
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Weird the other day, I think he's the Axemen. Now none of
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these reports led anywhere. John Dantonio d D'Antonio. John D'Antonio, retired Italian
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detective, made public statements in which he hypothesized that the man who had committed
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the Axemen murders was the same who had killed several individuals in nineteen eleven.
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The retired detective saw similarities in which the homicides had been committed, and so
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because of this, he reasoned that reasonably assumed that they were conducted by the
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same individual. And remember again, we have that whole thing about miss Toni
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back in nineteen eleven and him saying she'll sit up like miss Tony, referencing
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those murders in one of the murders from nineteen eleven. Now, Detective Dent,
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how did you say, D'Antonio, D'Antonio looks like Antonio with a deal
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dontonio. D'Antonio describe the potential So I shouldn't pronounce it like D'Antonio, like
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sothern like I'm from Lovekin. Dontonio described the potential killer as an individual of
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dual personalities who killed without motive. Now, this type of individual Detective D'Antonio
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stated could very likely have been a normal, law abiding citizen who was often
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overcome by an overwhelming desire to kill. He later went on to describe the
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killer as a real life Doctor Jekyll and mister Hyde. This won't calm people
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down at all, will it. No, there's a normal guy walking around
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and just snaps and just whatever and just kills people. No, but it's
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fine. We're just it's it's all good. We just got our real life
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Doctor Jekyll and mister Hyde. It's fine, everything's cool, No need to
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panic now. During this time, New Orleans would also lose thousands to the
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Spanish flu, which I'm sure everybody after twenty twenty become well acquainted with.
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Yes, the historical pandemic from one hundred years ago. Yes, not saying
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that we didn't have it bad with COVID, but they could have been worse.
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Okay, folks, Yeah, you could have been dealing with this ship
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in nineteen eighteenth, for gods, with no air conditioning. Yes. Now.
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On September sixteenth, and oil tanker arrived at the port of New Orleans.
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On board were five crew members who were sick with influenza. Another crew
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member who was the ship's radio operator, was reported to have died of pneumonia
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while at sea. City Health and Speckers visited the Checkers and Speckers visited the
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ship, and upon discussing the sick men, immediately quarantined the vessel in the
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river across from the immigration station. The Board of Health then barred the ship
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from setting sail or coming to port until all the cases were cured. Two
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days later, influenza aboard the ship had spread to five more crew members of
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the crew, five more crew members of the crew, five more members of
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the crew. The ill men from the tanker and brought to a hospital in
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New Orleans. So they so initially their thing was like, we're going to
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quarantine this ship. And then they're like, oh, well, now we've
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doubled the numbers, so let's just bring these people off the ship into the
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hospital where there's other sick people. Yeah. Now, the ship was then
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allowed to travel upriver. We didn't learn anything from histories to The ship was
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then allowed to travel upriver to nearby a destrehand to unload its oil. And
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this is how the Spanish influenza entered the city of New Orleans. Yeah,
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so all around, poor choices. I don't understand how they took it so
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seriously. And then they're like, never mind, well, we we doubled
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this amount of sick people. Let's not quarantine the ship anymore. Yea,
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let's just bring me to set people into a place where there's other sick people.
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Yeah, it's like when we moved the sick people into the nursing homes,
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like we thought that was gonna be smart. But anyways, evidently not
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no, because if you all remember when COVID started, that's where it was
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hitting with the nursing homes. You'd you heard about these huge all these deaths
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and in Washington State that started every Yeah, we had a similar situation early
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on down in New Orleans when because it was right after Marty Girl and everybody
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thought that it got spread. Well, one of the nursing homes down in
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New Orleans got sick like that and all them started passing away. Anyways,
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but I digress. Nobody wants to talk about anymore the sword anymore, anymore,
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sea word anymore, Sea words seaward. Now. As the virus spread,
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officials encourage people to stay home, but they did not listen. They
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instead to chose to attend parades and rallies for the World War One relief.
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Now, this caused the virus to spread like wildfire. Death would sometimes come
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within a few hours of contracting the virus. The initial symptoms were like any
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other flu. You got a sore throat, chills, and a fever.
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But quickly the virus would attack the lungs and people died of respiratory failure and
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pneumonia. Now autopsies would reveal red lungs drenched in fluid. When it was
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all said and done, three thousand, three hundred and sixty two people died
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in New Orleans due to the Spanish influenza. And this co occurred from just
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September nineteen eighteen to March nineteen nineteen, So just a cold and flu season
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right there, from September to March. Now, this was about one percent
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of the entire population of New Orleans. So it's a big hit, you
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know, that's a lot of bodies. Yeah, at the time it was,
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Yes, Stuart, we're talking about at the time, really not the
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current time now, because it's a lot bigger now. Yes. On March
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tenth, nineteen nineteen, the murders continued and This happened in Gretina, Louisiana,
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which is south of New Orleans, just south after you crossed the Mississippi.
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So on the other bank of the Mississippi is Gretna, so it wasn't
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that far away. Thanks for the You're welcome. While some people might not
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know. In the middle of the night, Loorlando Giordano, there's an Italian
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name, heard screams coming from the court to Miglia House, where Charles and
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his wife Rosie, along with their infant daughter Mary lived. He entered the
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home while Lorlando did, to find Rosie standing with a large head wound holding
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her daughter, who was dead. Charles was lying on the floor bleeding profusely,
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and the two had suffered skull fractures. The baby had died from a
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single blow to the back of the neck while sleeping next to her mother.
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While in the hospital, Rosie claimed that Lorlando and his son had attacked them
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while Charles, but Charles denied this. Police took Rosie's word for it.
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They arrested sixty nine year old Lorlando, who was too old and fragile to
25:11
actually carry out the attack, and his eighteen year old son Frank, who
25:17
was over six feet tall and pushing two hundred pounds. The physical description of
25:25
Frank kind of made it difficult to believe that he could have fit through the
25:30
panel that they were moved to crawl into the house through the door the same
25:34
the way that he got in most places was to cut a panel, a
25:38
small panel out of the door and crawl through it. And this guy would
25:42
have The dad was too old and fragile to even do this, and then
25:47
the sun was too gigantic to fit through the panel. Yeah, through the
25:51
panel, and there was no other signs that someone been in. I mean,
25:52
I guess you could say, did the dad crawl through the hole and
25:55
then let the sun in? I mean, but again, this was just
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Charles and Rosie had been attacked, and Charles says they did not do this.
26:04
Rosie said they did. They were the ones that came and helped them.
26:07
So again, this is just a she's just saying this. Maybe she
26:11
didn't like him, I don't know, Remban, there were competition or something,
26:15
yeah, or she just thought they were shitty neighbors. Yeah. Anyway,
26:19
despite these facts, the men were tried and Frank was sentenced to hang.
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They're playing around new while l Orlando was sentenced to life in prison.
26:30
After the trial, Charles did divorce Rosie. Yeah, he's like, you
26:33
lying bitch. A year later, she admitted she made up the claim,
26:37
and the Jordano men were released from prison. Yeah, so they almost that
26:42
guy almost got hung just based off her just saying that with absolutely no other
26:48
evidence. I mean, today, you they don't just go off. They
26:51
know better than to go off, like eye witness accounts. So there someone
26:53
can say that this person attacked you, but they need some other evidence usually
26:57
to back it up, because people, some of them cases we did well.
27:02
I mean, oh recently, they're just like he did it, and
27:06
they're like, oh, drink him up. But yeah, but it was
27:08
like all she had to do was say that they did it, and they
27:11
were like, okay, let's put him to the galleys. You go gall
27:15
galley. That's where you eat the gallows at the gallows. Oopsie. All
27:22
right. So soon after now I'm going to read something for you guys.
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I guess I'll read the whole thing. Do you feel like, do you
27:29
feel like they would find this interesting to read the whole thing? I have
27:30
the whole thing because there was a letter that was written after that attack on
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the court Amiglia. How did you pronounce the family court Amiglia? Melia court
27:41
Amiglia. And this a letter arrived in the mail to the Times pick a
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Yune. Yeah, that's right, I said it right, Stu, Times
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pick A Yune, which is still in print today, Stu. It is
27:53
dated March thirteenth, nineteen nineteen, and it was published in the Sunday paper
27:57
on March sixteenth. Now I'm going to read this letter, guy, So
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if you don't really care what it says, that's what that fast forward buttons
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for. But for those who do want to know, While the fast forward
28:08
button is for your intro but well, it can also be for this.
28:11
But this is word for word what was written in the paper to the people
28:17
that they printed. So hell, March thirteenth, nineteen nineteen esteemed Mortal's great
28:26
Already they have never caught me, and they never will. They have never
28:30
seen me, for I am invisible, even as the as the ether that
28:34
surrounds your earth, even as the ether that surrounds your earth. I'm really
28:45
good at math, guys. Okay, English reading reading read not read,
28:51
not good. I am not a human being but a spirit and a demon
28:56
from the hottest hell. I am what you or Lenians and your foolish police
29:00
call the Axemen. When I see fit, I shall come and claim other
29:04
victims. I alone know whom they shall be. I shall leave no clue
29:10
except my bloody axe be smeared with blood and brains of whom I have sent
29:15
below to keep me company. This is pretty dark a little bit. If
29:19
you wish, you may tell the police to be careful not to rile me.
29:23
Of course, I am a reasonable spirit Selvic, Thank goodness. I
29:29
take no offense at the way they have conducted their investigations in the past.
29:33
Of course he hasn't. He hasn't been caught. There's been people have been
29:36
thrown each oil that didn't do this. In fact, they have been so
29:40
utterly stupid as not to only amuse me but his satanic majesty Francis Joseph,
29:48
etc. Francis Joseph is at the devil's name. I don't know, Claire
29:52
what we're talking about, but tell them to beware. Let them not try
29:56
to discover what I am, For it were better that they were never than
30:00
to incur the wrath of the Axemen. I don't think there is any need
30:04
of such a warning, for I feel sure the police will always dodge me,
30:08
as they have in the past. They are wise and know how to
30:11
keep away from all harm. Undoubtedly, you Orleanians thank of me as the
30:18
most horrible murderer, which I am. But I could be much worse if
30:22
I wanted to. If I wished, I could pay a visit to your
30:26
city every night at will, I could slay thousands of your best citizens,
30:32
for I am in close relationship with the angel of death. Now to be
30:36
exact at twelve fifteen earthly time, just to be clear, on next Tuesday
30:42
night. Now, see, this is where I would have confusion. I'd
30:45
be like, do you mean? I'd be like, wait, sir,
30:48
could you clarify? Do you mean twelve fifteen night? Because sometimes you know,
30:52
when someone says like Monday night in twelve fifteen would technically be Tuesday morning,
30:59
you know, right, So what are we doing? Like I need
31:03
some clarity. So on next Tuesday night, I'm going to pass over New
31:07
Orleans in my infinite mercy. I am going to make a little proposition to
31:11
you people here. It is I am very fond of jazz music, and
31:17
I swear this is why you know he's the devil. He's fond of jazz
31:19
music. Stu Wow. And I swear by all the devils in the nether
31:25
regions that every person shall be spared in whose home a jazz band is in
31:29
full swing at the time I have just mentioned. If everyone has a jazz
31:33
band going well, then so much the better for you people. One thing
31:37
is certain that that is that some of your people who do not jazz it
31:41
out on that specific jazz it out, jazz it out, jazz it out
31:45
on that specific Tuesday night, if there be any, we'll get the acts
31:49
well. As I am cold and crave the warmth of my native Tartarus.
31:53
Tartarus, and it is about time I leave your earthly home. Will cease
32:00
my discourse, hoping that thou wilt publish this, that it may go well
32:05
with thee I have been am and will be the worst spirit that ever existed,
32:09
either in fact or realm of fantasy. Signed the Axemen to somebody trolling
32:16
the newspaper, like, let's see we can get them all to play jazz,
32:20
yea like some kid like oh man, let me write this letter.
32:23
Yes anyway, so they published it because they wanted them to see. They
32:27
wanted everybody to have the warning that if you played the jazz music, you
32:31
might get the yard. So they published it so everybody would be awares of
32:36
this. So that following Tuesday, March eighteenth, nineteen nineteen, jazz music
32:42
filled the air around New Orleans. People were hoping to ward off the axemen.
32:45
Every bar in dance hall had jazz musicians playing, both amateurs and professionals.
32:50
So this is good jazz. This is bad jazz is uh, this
32:55
is like conspiracy at the jazz you and where all the bands and everything were.
33:01
You gotta get into what you could get into our theories here in a
33:05
minute about this. There's a jazz theory. Now, your Muffletto theory did
33:09
not make the thing. It fell apart. Yes, Now, that night
33:15
that they had all the jazzmine plane, no one was killed. The attacks
33:17
stopped for a few months, but would pick back up at the end of
33:20
the summer. So this is also why he's called the jazzmine of New Orleans
33:23
because of this whole thing, making the whole town play jazz music for a
33:28
whole day. And that's how jazz did. It was about to die.
33:32
Yeah, now we got jazz. We got smooth jazz. We got Kenny
33:37
g. Smooth jazz. Thanks a lot, jazz man. So you can
33:42
think the axe man for directly lads to Kenny G. On August tenth,
33:47
nineteen nineteen, Steve Boca, a grocer, grocery grocerer, grocerer, a
33:54
grocer, woke in the middle of the night to find a man standing over
33:59
him wielding in axe. English is hard. Words are hard, but you're
34:04
not even good at math to make up forwards? Oh, I'm great at
34:06
maths. The man began attacking him and he passed out. Upon coming to
34:12
he ran out to see if he could find a man, but he couldn't.
34:16
He ran for assistance to his neighbor's house, where he collapsed and lost
34:21
consciousness. Steve's head had been cracked wide opened by the axe. He regained
34:25
consciousness at the hospital but could not remember anything. Police found that nothing had
34:30
been taken from the home, and yet once again, a panel on the
34:35
back door of the home had been chiseled away. I mean, how's this
34:37
guy got time to just sit there and chisel away at something? I don't
34:40
know. I guess people are used to sleeping with a lot of noise around
34:44
him and stuff out there. They're just like whatever they're tired from, like
34:46
pulling fruit or whatever at the grocer's all day and they're just like passed out.
34:51
And he just that guy has taught with no air conditioner. No,
34:52
just it's a hard fight in August. So you some some are like,
34:57
please, this is terrible. Did someone kill me now? I mean now.
35:00
On September third, nineteen nineteen, Sarah law Lawman, a nineteen year
35:07
old woman, was attacked while lying in bed after an intruder entered the home
35:13
through an open window. He attacked her with a blunt object, and she
35:16
was found lying unconscious in her front yard. A bloody axe was found,
35:22
and she recovered from her injuries, but she could not remember any details of
35:25
the attack. At least she just said, I don't remember anything, instead
35:28
of making stuff up like yeah, Joe did it, and yeah, you
35:32
need to go get him. On October twenty seventh, nineteen nineteen, Mike
35:37
Pepitone lay in his bed when a man wielding an axe attacked him. His
35:43
wife, who was in another room, ran to the bedroom to check on
35:45
Mike. As she did, she saw an axe building figure fleeing the home.
35:50
Her and their six children were unharmed, but Mike would succumb to his
35:52
injuries. He was the last known victim of the Axemen. So when all
35:57
we had, I believe, six murders and six attacks like people who survived
36:04
with the Axemen, So we had influenza everybody in New Orleans being subjected to
36:09
jazz music. Well that was the real crime, I mean, yes,
36:15
anyway, So there were several theories on who the Axemen of New Orleans was.
36:20
They included mafia involvement, racially motivated crime since most of the victims were
36:23
of Italian descent, and even a theory that the killer wanted to promote jazz
36:28
music based on the letters Kenny Gee's behind this. Now, none of these
36:31
had any real evidence behind them. They were just theories. So do you
36:36
want to talk about some of the suspects that we had the best known suspect,
36:42
so it wasn't all about the muffle at us. No theory never came
36:45
up when crumbled. Yeah, like Stelle Bread. There have been several suspects
36:52
throughout the years, but the most notable was a fellow by the name of
36:55
Frank Doc Mumphrey who went by the alias Joseph Monfrey, and he was the
37:02
original suspect back in nineteen eleven when the Seambras were attacked resulting in the death
37:09
of Missus Tony. He was a businessman and they believed he had dudes with
37:15
several of the victims. See that's my conspiracy theory. But I don't think
37:21
it was because of muffal at his start that they don't think it was muffleot
37:23
is. No, I don't think that they were that was the behind the
37:28
feud. Now, he went to Los Angeles in nineteen twenty, where he
37:34
died a year later. This does coincide with when the murder stopped. Now
37:38
there is no real evidence, just speculation that when he left the murder stopped.
37:45
To this day, no one knows the identity of the axemen of New
37:50
Orleans. Now, I did want to give some Sea of Stus theory would
37:57
even hold water at all held olives? Yes, So I wanted to see
38:01
that the Muffalotto was even invented by that time. So the Mufflotta, it's
38:05
this thing, says Wikipedia says it was invented in nineteen o six at Central
38:09
Grocery Company on Decatur Street in New Orleans, Louisiana. By It's delicatessen owner
38:16
Salvatore Lupo, a Sicilian immigrant, So he was Italians do well, Yeah,
38:22
where do you think the mufflot has come from? Oh? So you're
38:24
saying that somebody was upset that the mufflotto was so popular that they like a
38:29
like an American sandwich maker was mad at the Italians for making such a delicious
38:34
sandwich. I'm saying that there was an Italian grocer trying to corner the market
38:37
on muffalottus. So he was so we think it was another Italian grocery.
38:40
So he was killing all the other groceries making muffalottas he wanted to. He
38:45
wanted to corner the market on the muffleottus. No, I thought you meant
38:47
it was like the inventor of the subway sandwich was trying to take out the
38:52
muffalotta makers. No, he'd be trying to take No, he took out
38:55
successfully took out blump each subs. Oh that's what oh Blimpie's Yeah, they're
39:01
not around me now they because Jared from Subway ate them before he got arrested
39:07
for being a perv. Oh he did. I don't know anyways, But
39:12
you know what's subway though. They might have taken out Blimpie's. But the
39:15
subway bamboozled us because they used to have five dollars foot longs. But that
39:20
is no more. They don't do that anymore. There's no five dollar foot
39:22
long. It's not five dollar or anything. No, it's like twelve dollars
39:24
foot long. Now, I mean it's ridiculous. Yeah, it's expensive.
39:28
It's ridiculous. So they took out all the competition and then raised their prices.
39:31
And that's what this Italian grocer was doing. But you know, I
39:35
was trying to get rid of all is muffleotta competition to raise the price.
39:38
Well, you know who's coming after him though, Firehouse subs, which is
39:42
better Jersey Mike's coming forties ever had no Jersey Mike's. I've had Firehouse subs.
39:46
It's really good. Now you know who's got a good muffle atta is
39:49
Pizza Village. Okay, well that's not a change. So that's not going
39:52
to help anybody that doesn't live here. Well anyways, all right, wouldn't
39:54
they visit here? They can go to a pizza village. Well, it
39:57
is a change. There's a there's a loca on the north side and a
40:00
location on the south side. The axemen trying to take out the Muffleota.
40:06
He did not, and now we have them currently into today's world. So,
40:09
Sue, do you have a y'all need Jesus? Of course I got
40:12
a y'all need Jesus. I had one last week. But yeah, I
40:15
was tired. I was Why are you tired because of sudden so much?
40:21
I'm just tired because it's nighttime. Stewart. Now, this story was sent
40:24
to me by some sick person. Well, we're not gonna name any names.
40:30
Kara comes to something I sent you. Yes, that's why we got
40:36
to do two. Y'all need Jesus is a week because you skimped on the
40:38
listeners last week. Now we're all doing two plus this one one. Well,
40:42
this one's too dark to leave the listeners on this. We're just doing
40:45
one, and then then I got to do one to lift them up after
40:47
this. Okay, whatever, I'm not sitting around for a second one.
40:51
That's sorry. You don't have to be here, Okay, you don't have
40:52
to be here for a lot of things I do by myself. You're disgusting.
41:00
It's disgusting. Just come on, let's go, all right, Newsweight,
41:07
July thirty one, twenty nineteen, Arizona man shocked to find out his
41:10
mother's donated body was strapped to a chair and detonated and US military blasting test.
41:22
I did send this one to stew from you then, and then I
41:25
asked you questions about if this was too dark, and you're like, I
41:29
don't know, I didn't read it. I just read the light headline.
41:30
Here you go. No, I did read the story. I didn't after
41:35
after after all, I read the story. I just didn't read this deep
41:37
down into what you'd read into. Yeah, because well you start talk about
41:40
genitalia and stuff. Okay, anyway, moving on with this story the Arizona
41:47
Body Donation Center where FBI agents discovered a woman's head sewn onto a male body.
41:54
I don't know how he didn't read this. This was the first of
41:57
the of the sentence of the story, like a franken Sign also sold an
42:02
elderly woman's corpse to the US Army to be blown up in a blast testing
42:07
experiment. So it's the government needs Jesus in this one. Just to be
42:10
clear, everybody, there's a lot of people who need Jesus that are going
42:14
along with this, going along with it. I mean who, I mean,
42:16
why do you need to sell the woman's head to a males? I
42:20
don't know who did this to blow it? That's like six shit, that's
42:22
like, I mean, now, this is a different person. I know
42:25
that. I'm just saying. And then you got the people to buy the
42:29
bodies, the people to sell the bodies, the people that buy and sell
42:35
the interim. What do you call those people? The middleman in the deal?
42:39
Anyway, Jim Stalford Stouford donated his mother's body to the Biological Resource Center
42:46
in Maricopa County, Arizona in twenty thirteen after she died at age seventy four.
42:53
Doors Stofer suffered from Alzheimer during the final years of her life, and
42:59
doctors believe disease may have mutated, as she did not have the usual Alzheimer
43:05
genes, and they hoped to study her brain after her death, which seems
43:08
like a noble thing. Yeah, he's like, yeah, He's like,
43:12
let me donate my mother's body. I mean, maybe I'm not one hundred
43:15
percent comfortable, but it might help other people in the future, families in
43:17
the future noble cause. After a neurologist said they could not accept the body,
43:23
Jim Stofer donated it to the BRC in hopes her brain could still be
43:30
used for scientific research. This is where Jim messed up. Several days later,
43:36
Jim Stofer received a wooden box containing his mother's asses. He was never
43:40
told how his mother's body had been used at the center. Years later,
43:45
a Router's report revealed that her brain was never Reuters whatever Router like Rotor Router
43:51
brain was never used for Alzheimer's research. Instead, the body was sold off
43:54
to the US Army so it could be used part of an experiment to measure
43:59
damage caused by our roadside bombs. She was then supposedly strapped in a chair
44:04
on some sort of apparatus and a detonation took place beneath her to basically kind
44:08
of get an idea of what the human body goes through when a vehicle is
44:12
hit by an ied is I mean, maybe I understand, but I mean,
44:17
if you donated mom for one reason, the visual on this is just
44:22
like a lot of weekend at Bernie's, Like if Bernie's was getting I D
44:29
tested. There was actually wording on this paperwork about performing this stuff. He
44:34
added, performing these medical tests may that may involve explosions, And we said
44:38
no, we checked the no box on all definitely no no explosions. No,
44:44
he's thinking like he's thinking his mom's brain is gonna be taken by calm
44:47
scientists in a laboratory and dissected and liked in a microscope and be like this,
44:52
and all of a sudden, it's like, no, the government's like,
44:54
let's see what we could do with this body. According to Reuters,
45:00
at least twenty bodies donated the BRC were sold off to the army for blast
45:05
experiments without their families consent. The bodies were sold for around five thousand,
45:10
eight hundred ninety three. Should at least get the money. That ain't that
45:15
much money? No, but I mean no, uh, it's for a
45:20
for a body. No. I'm saying that if they're going to do that,
45:22
then that those people shouldn't get to keep the money. At least go
45:25
to the families. Well, that's what the middleman is for. They move
45:29
these bodies around so they get paid. I understand, That's what I'm saying
45:32
that's where it's wrong. I mean, if they should at least get the
45:35
money and they can donate, they can donate it to a Alz time or
45:38
research place or something. Ninety moore, Oh the money, yeah, Okay.
45:45
The Donation Center is no longer operating, of course. It was rated
45:51
in twenty fourteen by the FBI following accusations that it was selling donated bodies for
45:55
profit. It was during the twenty fourteen raid, agents made several horrific discoveries,
46:01
including a woman's head sewing onto a mail tour so, like we said,
46:06
dismembered limbs and heads strewn about, and a cooler filled with male genitalia.
46:13
So this was just some sort of weirdo operating some sort of like I
46:16
hope he's in jail because otherwise he's probably killing people. Funny you should ask,
46:22
because BRC's owner, Stephen Gore ironic name, pleaded guilty to what his
46:28
parents expect with the name like that. He pleaded guilty to illegal control of
46:34
an enterprise in twenty fifteen and is currently serving probation. What oh god,
46:39
everybody if you know Stephen Gore run Jim Stofer is one of several people currently
46:45
sewing Gore and BRC. He described how Gore had stolen a lot more than
46:50
my mom's body with his actions, because every time you know, you think
46:53
about her, every time there's a memory, every time there's a photograph you
46:58
look at, there's this ugly thing that happened just right there, staring right
47:04
out. Which, Yeah, every time you see a picture of your mind,
47:07
you're like, I can't believe I daughter. Then your mom's body and
47:09
then it was blown up, and that's all you can think about, is
47:13
her getting blowed up. I mean, I guess the military was probably just
47:16
buying these bodies from They didn't know what they were buying. I don't think
47:22
who knows, it's all. It's all incestuous. Do they could they could
47:24
have known that this guy was not the people doing the actual blowing up,
47:30
but like the people of procuring the bodies might have been buddies with this Stephen
47:34
Gore. And then they were giving him his business and da da da da
47:37
da, and turning a blind eye to his weird ways. And whenever they're
47:40
like, why is this woman's head sewn on this mall's body? Oh,
47:45
that's just how they were. It's how they came anyways, ain't no telling.
47:51
Yeah, so I found that one. But yes, that was all
47:52
right, very disgusting. Well thank you for that. Y'all need Jesus?
47:55
Would you like another one? No, we're over time, Stu overtime?
48:00
Yeah, all right, well all right, everybody that was helping for a
48:02
little lighter side, y'all need Jesus. Kara, c A r A said
48:09
no, said no or over time. The children about to get up from
48:13
their nap. We go send your comments too. Sorry, sorry everybody.
48:17
All right, so that's it for us this episode, and I guess we
48:21
will oh check the show notes and do all the stuff, and we'll see
48:24
you next time by everyone, say by Stu. So you could have said
48:28
that at the beginning instead of that five minute intro by st No, you
48:32
just run the whole thing. Now, everybody's gonna be like they I can't
48:35
believe they run the whole exit of the show. You just run the whole
48:38
thing, Stewart by stand no, we have to redo it, all right,
48:44
We'll see you next time, by everyone, say bye. St Oh.
48:47
Also, the cat is don't worry if anybody who's wondering about the cat,
48:52
the cat's back inside. He learned his lesson about that it's not nice
48:57
outside right now, so he's been a few minutes outside. Now he's quietly
49:00
laying in the house alive, cooling off and sleeping and not me owing.
49:05
How was supposed to call these people? Head? Okay, you keep sir?
49:08
All right? That's it for us this week, by everyone say by
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ste by stand don't you know where it's bad to be super stanicious? By
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nothing else? It's working. It's really hurting Adam sick. It's work. By Can