Latest / The Original Self Podcast / You Cry, I Cry: What Women Facing Cancer Taught me About Presence
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- 0:00My sister -in -law is sitting in my chair. Her
- 0:05kids, my niece who's 16, my nephew who's 11 at
- 0:09the time are standing behind her just watching.
- 0:15She's joking around but I can tell that she's
- 0:19very nervous because her shoulders are up, her
- 0:23eyes look a little too wide and It's because
- 0:28she doesn't want to lose her beautiful long thick
- 0:32curly hair. I Ask her do you want me to do it?
- 0:37Do you want to do this yourself? Or do you want
- 0:41the kids to help? She says no she doesn't want
- 0:46to shave her head herself But looks over at the
- 0:49kids and says do you want to participate? My
- 0:52niece says okay, and my nephew just shook his
- 0:56head no When I have to shave someone's head,
- 1:02I never shave it bald in one pass. It's too shocking.
- 1:08It's shocking for the client and for whoever
- 1:11else is in the room. So we start very slowly.
- 1:18I turn the clippers on, they're buzzing in my
- 1:21hand, and I put the clipper to the back of her
- 1:25neck. I ask her if she's ready. She nods and
- 1:31that's where we started. Hey everyone, it's Evet.
- 1:45Today I would like to discuss the benefit of
- 1:50presence. How we show up for each other really
- 1:55matters. I've worked with a lot of cancer patients
- 2:01over the years. It started when I was 18. My
- 2:06mom and I volunteered for the American Cancer
- 2:10Society's Look Good, Feel Better program. This
- 2:14was a program that women... could come to at
- 2:19no cost, no charge, and they could get their
- 2:25wig styled or shown how to put on a wig. And
- 2:29if they didn't want to wear a wig showed different
- 2:32ways we would show them different ways on how
- 2:35to tie a scarf. And then they could also get
- 2:39their makeup done. And at 18. watching these
- 2:45women with no eyebrows, no eyelashes, let alone
- 2:50completely bald and they would divulge that they
- 2:57completely miss their hair and miss putting on
- 3:00mascara and makeup and their eyes were tearing
- 3:03all the time and they were so exhausted yet they
- 3:07would look in the mirror and see someone that
- 3:10didn't look like themselves. And so our job was
- 3:14to make them feel just a tiny bit more like themselves
- 3:20but also just listen. Be present. camaraderie
- 3:27between women. It was very difficult for me,
- 3:31I'm not gonna lie. It was a real education because
- 3:36I was watching what this chemotherapy treatment
- 3:40did to their bodies and it was like they were
- 3:45being taken apart and had no control over it.
- 3:49And so the first couple sessions I walked out
- 3:53because I was crying. And I kept thinking, well,
- 3:57it's not about you. Like, don't cry. You know,
- 3:59don't show that emotion. And I realized after
- 4:03volunteering a few more times that what's wrong
- 4:07with that? As long as I could get it together
- 4:10and say, hey, let's let's do let's try something.
- 4:14Let's try to make you feel a little bit more
- 4:16like yourself. Let's see what we can do. So as
- 4:21I volunteered a little bit more, it became not
- 4:26easier, but it became about being present. There's
- 4:32something psychologically real that goes on in
- 4:35the room when this is happening. I think naming
- 4:38it is worth doing because it explains why that
- 4:43moment hits as hard as it does. It's called anticipatory
- 4:48grief. It's like grieving a loss before it's
- 4:52fully happened. My sister -in -law wasn't just
- 4:56losing her hair in that chair. She was rehearsing
- 4:59a much bigger loss. A loss of normalcy, of control,
- 5:06maybe of certainty of what's to come next. Shaving
- 5:11the head as a ritual on her terms. let some of
- 5:17that grief happen in a way that she could actually
- 5:20be present for, instead of ambushing her later
- 5:25in the shower or alone watching it all fall out
- 5:30by herself. And the way we did it, the crop,
- 5:35then the sides, then the mohawk, then the final
- 5:38shave, wasn't just me being gentle. It's actually
- 5:42an anthropological structure called the rite
- 5:46of passage. It's a separation, threshold, and
- 5:51return. Every culture that's figured out how
- 5:55to help people through hard transitions use some
- 6:00version of a three -part structure. Because going
- 6:04through a threshold in stages is genuinely easier
- 6:08for the human mind to process. than just being
- 6:13shoved into it all at once. That mohawk stage
- 6:17where we all laughed, that was the threshold.
- 6:22That's where the room could basically exhale
- 6:25for a second before the final part. So the second
- 6:29part to that is the return. And in this scenario,
- 6:33it's when the hair returns. Hair almost always
- 6:39grows back after treatment. That's the part people
- 6:43really expect. What they don't expect is how
- 6:48much joy there is when it starts to come back
- 6:50in. And right alongside that joy is how much
- 6:55impatience that goes along with it. It never
- 7:00grows back fast enough. It never fills in the
- 7:03way people remember their hair previously looked.
- 7:06And a lot of times, it doesn't come back the
- 7:08same. People that had straight hair now have
- 7:11curly hair. People that had dark hair all of
- 7:15a sudden now have very gray hair. I've sat with
- 7:18a lot of clients while they looked in the mirror
- 7:20and tried to recognize themselves in hair that
- 7:24wasn't quite theirs anymore. One of my clients
- 7:28that had to go through treatment had naturally
- 7:33red hair her entire life. When her hair grew
- 7:38back after treatment, it came in brown, just
- 7:41plain old brown. That's what she would call it.
- 7:45We waited almost a year just to see if it would
- 7:49return to its former color. It didn't. So we
- 7:55colored it back to red. It was her natural red,
- 7:59just a little bit enhanced. When we finished
- 8:03that first color appointment, She just started
- 8:06crying in the chair. Remember, you cry, I cry.
- 8:11She said that she finally felt like herself again.
- 8:15That's the return. My sassy redhead client experienced
- 8:22something different than my sister -in -law.
- 8:25She experienced disenfranchised grief, which
- 8:29is grief that isn't socially recognized as real
- 8:33grief. Like, no one sends a card because your
- 8:37hair grew back the wrong color. Like, oh, we're
- 8:39so sorry. Nobody tells you that it's really allowed
- 8:43to feel like a loss. But imagine, it's very real
- 8:47to her. Her identity, she knew herself as a redhead.
- 8:54It took her almost a year to even let herself
- 8:58name something worth grieving. before she could
- 9:02decide to do anything about it. It wasn't just
- 9:04me saying to wait. She was like, well, let's
- 9:06wait. Maybe, you know, maybe it'll grow in red.
- 9:10Underneath all of that is something that I just
- 9:12mentioned. Identity. It's called identity continuity.
- 9:17It's the need to feel like I'm still me across
- 9:24any changes you come upon. The mirror is One
- 9:30of the main ways we confirm that to ourselves,
- 9:33right? Look in the mirror, there's me. It wasn't
- 9:37vanity when her reflection stopped matching who
- 9:40she'd always known herself to be. It was a real
- 9:43disruption of sense of self. Coloring her hair
- 9:48back, it wasn't so much about looking pretty.
- 9:52It was about closing that gap in how she looked
- 9:55and who she knew herself to be. Looking back
- 9:59on both of these experiences, the shave and the
- 10:03redheads you're avoiding, I didn't actually fix
- 10:06anything for either woman, obviously. I didn't
- 10:11stop my sister -in -law's hair from falling out,
- 10:13and I didn't restore my other client's natural
- 10:16color biologically. What I did in both cases
- 10:22was to help two women stay connected. to who
- 10:27they were through something neither of them could
- 10:30control. That's different from what I thought
- 10:34this job was when I was 18. Back then, I think
- 10:39I was fear -based. Not only did I want to make
- 10:42people feel better, but some of me wanted to
- 10:44fix it, or at least perform to fix it. I don't
- 10:48do that anymore. I'm not the person who tells
- 10:51someone, you're going to beat this. I don't give
- 10:54false hope because I have no idea. I'm not a
- 10:57doctor. I don't know. What I can do is cry with
- 11:02them. I can hold their hands. I can hug them.
- 11:07I can tell them I'm here to listen. And that
- 11:11doesn't stop when they leave my chair. It means
- 11:15texting and phone check -ins before, during,
- 11:19and after treatment. Mostly I listen and gently
- 11:24ask what they're thinking. What's actually going
- 11:28on in your mind? Sometimes they can tell me,
- 11:31sometimes they can't. When time has passed, after
- 11:38they finish their treatments, I always ask the
- 11:41same question. How are you thinking about your
- 11:47life differently now that you're on the other
- 11:49side of it? I always get very interesting answers,
- 11:56but they usually contain the word presence. They
- 12:02talk about presence of people that were there
- 12:06with them, that showed up for them in various
- 12:10ways. I think that's the real thread between
- 12:14shaving my sister -in -law's hair and my redhead
- 12:17story. Neither one of them needed me to have
- 12:21an answer, or anyone else for that matter. They
- 12:25needed someone to stay present while they found
- 12:28their own way through. My client said it better
- 12:33than I ever could. She said, I feel like myself
- 12:37again. Unfortunately, not every story ends that
- 12:42way. My sister -in -law's hair grew back more
- 12:46than once. and fell out many more times. She
- 12:50never got the chance to find her way back to
- 12:53the image of herself before any of it started,
- 12:55that return. That day in the chair, the mohawk,
- 13:00the laughing, my niece doing one side, me doing
- 13:02the other, and all the tears at the end, that
- 13:06wasn't the moment she made peace with any of
- 13:08it. What came after was four years of a road
- 13:12with real hope, real denial, and real disappointment
- 13:18all tangled together. So I'm not trying to say
- 13:23that presence fixes that timeline. It doesn't
- 13:27guarantee that things get better or that they
- 13:29improve when you want them to. On the rare occasion,
- 13:34they don't get better. That's the reality of
- 13:37the big C. My sister -in -law didn't move through
- 13:42that threshold in that afternoon. She lived there
- 13:45for years. There were moments where we've all
- 13:48thought that things were turning around and moments
- 13:51when they weren't. I used to think that day in
- 13:55the salon was the hardest part. It definitely
- 13:58wasn't. I think it was just the day that we simply
- 14:02realized that everything and what she knew of
- 14:06life, what we knew of her life and in it was
- 14:09the change. Sometimes the middle part, the threshold
- 14:13is the whole thing. You know, someone can live
- 14:16in that in -between place, no longer who they
- 14:19were, but not yet at peace at who they've become
- 14:22for years. Her sense of I'm still me didn't return
- 14:30because life returned to normal. It returned
- 14:33because she slowly learned to recognize herself
- 14:35in a very different life. Hair was never really
- 14:41the lesson. Hair was simply the place where grief
- 14:45first became visible. What people needed wasn't
- 14:51someone to make it okay. They need someone willing
- 14:54to stay with them while it isn't. Looking back
- 14:59after nearly 40 years behind this chair, I think
- 15:03that's what presence really is. It's not fixing.
- 15:07It's not rescuing. It's just refusing to leave
- 15:11someone alone in the middle of being someone
- 15:13they've never expected to have to be. My wish
- 15:17is to never shave another head because of cancer
- 15:20ever again. We all know that that's not going
- 15:23to happen. And so instead of being angry about
- 15:28it, I feel grateful that I'm chosen to be a part
- 15:32of it. And I will do my best to make it as comfortable
- 15:37as possible. and as real and loving as I possibly
- 15:42can. I'm Evet DeCota and my hope for today
- 15:45is that you walked away from this episode with
- 15:48a deeper understanding of your own identity and
- 15:52the quiet strength that presence place and can
- 15:55offer both to yourself and to the people you
- 15:59love. If you'd like to continue this conversation
- 16:02or have a different topic that resonates with
- 16:05you, You can find all my contact information
- 16:08in this episode's notes. Thank you for listening
- 16:12and I hope you have a great day.