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Philippians Intro & 1:1-18 with Tracy Blewett · Pursuing the Heart

• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, this is Pursuing the Heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the host, Scott Blewitt, and we just appreciate you listening.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I have a special someone tonight.
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  SPEAKER_00: It happens to be my wife, Tracy Blewett.
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  SPEAKER_00: I asked her to be on the podcast tonight.
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  SPEAKER_00: How are you doing, Tracy?
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm great.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for having me on again.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again.
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  SPEAKER_00: She doesn't think I would ask her ever again to be on again and again and again.
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, this is pursuing the heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: We pursue God pursued us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now I pursue him.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh this is just uh to show how you can have a casual conversation um with scripture and just talk about the things that pop up in scripture and have a good discussion.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh so how is everything going on, huh?
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: Good, good.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: You enjoyed your day off today?
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, days off are a good, you know, to download and take a break.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think, you know, even God says that's a good thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did you have a Bible study today?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I did.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ah, well you want to share what you guys might what what did you talk about today in your study?
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh well, I just wanted to say that this b um Bible study is a blessing because for years I prayed for our mentors and um I prayed for the one to come along and he delivered six women instead of just one, so that's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh it was just talking about how we need to be out in the w you know, like if not now, when are we supposed to be, you know, disciples for Christ?
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did you learn stuff today?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, it looks like you've got lots of notes.
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  SPEAKER_01: I do like digging in.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's alright.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can add your Tracy flavor to this tonight.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: And uh you're making homemade bread right now.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's a chore that I've added to our my list of chores because I just find sometimes bread nowadays never molds.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can put it up in the cabinet and just always stays soft and mold, unlike when we were kids.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can it would mold pretty fast, and so I just like making our own now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, homemade bread is really, really good.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have fine-tuned that craft to where it's really nice.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so we had fun this weekend.
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  SPEAKER_00: We dressed up for Halloween.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh you were what you were who now?
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  SPEAKER_01: Fiona.
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  SPEAKER_00: Fiona from Shrek.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I just happened to be a a redneck with a uh mullet.
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  SPEAKER_00: Was that correct?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, a little boy saw you at the restaurant and said you were America.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, because I had America bandana on my head and America shirt with the flag and it said uh America USA on it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then the little kid walked up to me and says, Are you America?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had uh jeans and then uh had some uh work boots or whatever on, so yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was good.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was kind of sad because our grandson's now 14 and so he's kind of getting to the age where he's too old, but he did dress up as a matching character with his girlfriend.
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  SPEAKER_01: They were Pooh and uh Tigger.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so that was kind of cute to watch.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was enjoyable, and then we determined out of this large community of people, kids that came by because we sat over our our daughter's house, Brittany, uh the headless horseman uh costume.
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  SPEAKER_01: That was my favorite.
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  SPEAKER_00: The costume was um probably number one because it wasn't something you would buy at the store.
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  SPEAKER_00: It looked like it was homemade, but it was really good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of thought and a lot of idea there.
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  SPEAKER_00: So anyway, we had fun um passing out three big bowls of candy to all these kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, so um, but uh thank you for coming on the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is pursuing the heart.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and we have been going through Paul's letters, and we just wrapped up Ephesians, and tonight we'll open the book of Philippians.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh so, Hun, do you want to say a prayer?
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Lord, for um this opportunity to spread your word, and uh whoever listens, I hope it reaches and um sparks their interest of digging deep because I feel like we know that if it's but it's different to just read it than it is to dig in and fall in love with your word.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh we just hope it blesses someone out there, and um, even though they might not agree with someone that they're having a discussion with, like me and my husband hardly ever agree, it is a great discussion to have, and we hope someone gets a blessing from it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Amen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now listen, I just heard you in your prayer that we very seldom agree.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, no, no, no, no, no.
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  SPEAKER_00: We agree on a lot of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh well, we our Bible study together is is interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's very interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So tonight uh we're doing Philippians.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, a little uh introduction to Philippians.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got some notes here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um basically the author is Paul.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and uh it's written by Paul and to the Church of Philippians or the Philippi.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was written in approximately 54 to 62 AD.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's m most known as one of the uh prison letters while he was in prison in Rome.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh they likely in Rome or Caesarea or Ephesus Ephesus, but I believe it was probably written in Rome.
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  SPEAKER_00: In prison.
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  SPEAKER_00: In prison.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um what other prison letters are they?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, Paul wrote 13 letters in the Bible, five are from prison.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um first one was Ephesians, Colossians, the Philippians, uh Philemon.
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  SPEAKER_00: Philemon.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: She can't say Philemon.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I cannot.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh the last letter was um in 2 Timothy, he wrote it right before his execution.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Okay, alrighty.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think you did some uh legwork for um background and Philippians.
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  SPEAKER_00: What do you what did you come up with?
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if it's background work, I just read the Bible.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah, you read the Bible.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm just regurgitating was what I read the Bible.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, so what did you find?
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, well, uh Philippi was established uh 359 years before Christ by Philip of Macedon.
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  SPEAKER_01: Of course, he named the town after himself.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um in 42 b uh uh BC, uh the city is like on a port and it became a more of a Roman military colony.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's made up diverse, privileged people.
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  SPEAKER_01: A lot of people called it mini Rome.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and so um we're talking about Philippians.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um it's uh this is about 50 AD, so about a hundred years later.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're um this is in Acts 16.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um Paul and his group of people, like Silas and Luke and Timothy, they were all um he wanted to go spread the gospel, and so he wanted to go spread it to Asia.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh again, I don't know if I said it, but it's in Acts 16 if you want to read it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and he's saying that he wants to go and spread it to Asia, but the Holy Spirit said no, and so next he said, Well, I'm gonna go to um Thema, and he the Holy Spirit said no again, and so Paul has a dream, and there's an old man, and he's saying that you need to come to Macedonia.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_01: So they boarded a ship and the ship docked in Philippi, and so on the day of the Sabbath, um, there was no um synagogues to preach at um in Philippi because I didn't know that you have to have at least 13 Jewish men to come together to make um so there wasn't one.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they found some women that were praying by the shore, and that's where uh he met Lydia.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's a wealthy purple cloth maker, and God opened her heart, and um she was so moved that she had her and her whole household baptized and offered for him and her his three other people to stay with with her during the ministry.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, and then um they would go out and preach, and Paul and Silas one day was going out preaching in Philippi, and there was a slave girl that kept following them around saying, you know, these people um are servants of the most high God, and they are here to tell us how to be saved.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he that girl just followed around.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_01: I have to back up.
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  SPEAKER_01: This girl is um has a spirit on her that she can prophesy the future, like a demon possessed, so she knows who they are, yeah, and so she will not leave them alone.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's just falling around, keeps saying this, and so eventually Paul uh turns around and says, In the name of Jesus Christ, I command you to come out of her.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then she was no longer to um could you know prophesy.
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  SPEAKER_01: So her owners are out of a lot of money now, and so they are furious, and so they take Paul and Silas and they're like, There's these are troublemakers, they're disrupting, and so they get them thrown in jail and they were beaten and flogged.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um, but I think it's interesting because it says in there that they put them in the innermost part of the prison because they did not want them to escape, and they attached a guard to them saying, Do not let them be released.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so at night, after being flogged and beaten, they're singing and praising God at midnight, and God sends an earthquake, and then so the their chain says falls off, and the prison doors are open, but they do not leave.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so the guard wakes up and he's like, Oh my gosh, you know, and then he gets out a sword to kill himself.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um, so he's like, We didn't leave, we're right here.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he is so moved that he's like, How do I become a believer?
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  SPEAKER_01: And so he takes them back to his house, he mends their wounds, he feeds them, and then Paul sheds the gospel, and then in the middle of the night, his whole family is you know baptized, and then they go back to prison, and the prison's like, um, they were like, You can be free to go.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he's like, No, we're Roman citizens, and they're like become scared and they apologize to him.
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  SPEAKER_01: They say, You need to leave town.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's how, and so it's um it's they think that Luke stayed behind to establish this church in Philippi because his letters or his writings kind of stop and then start.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know if that's true or not.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: But um I never heard about the uh Luke staying and starting.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's just about um, so this is um this epistle is about um that they're calling it the joy letter, which is a breath of fresh air because I'm doing another Bible study and we're doing um first and second Peter, and that's about suffering.
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  SPEAKER_01: So joy is like a like a drink of you know, nice cold water.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um this is uh I guess he says it joy 16 times in this um short, it's only four chapters long.
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  SPEAKER_01: But another word I learned new is this is a Christie Christ centric book because he mentions Christ 50 times in 50 times, yeah, 50 times.
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  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um this letter, so he established this church in 50 AT AD, but the letter back to the church is in about 62 AD, so it's 12 years have passed.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um he's writing this letter um back to the Philippians because the Philippians were very um involved in helping the ministry, Paul's ministry.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so when they found out he was in church, they sent um Aphroditis, if I say that right, um to um deliver like uh money and clothing and food and stuff like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so um, which he ends up getting really sick, almost past, you know, dies.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they uh he's sending this letter back with him, and he's just thanking them and praising them and um showing his appreciation and love for them, always um supporting his ministry.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, um ready to dive in the letter.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are you?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so chapter one, verse one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I just want to say if you want to know why he's in prison in Rome, you can read Acts 28.
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  SPEAKER_00: Acts 28?
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to keep on going more into the history or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so it says Paul and Timothy, servants of Christ Jesus, to all the saints in Christ Jesus who are at Philippi with the overseers and deacons, grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now that was ESV.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if I switch it back to uh to a new American standard, it says Paul and Timothy bond servants of Christ Jesus to all the saints in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi, including the overseers and deacons.
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  SPEAKER_00: So first I'll point out this is Paul and Timothy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, if if you want to learn who Timothy is, that's the first part of Acts 16, um, how he gets involved.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then as he said, this is um he calls them bondservants, and I think we covered that the last time I was on the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's like an Exodus, and I think you it's also in Deuteronomy that if you want to usually um like if you were in debt, you were a slave until that like years passed, and if you um wanted to stay with your master, if you're being set free by your master, yes, but you st want to stay and serve him for life, it's for life that they would take an awe and against the wall and put it through his ear.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, kind of like an earring, yes, kind of like an earring.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's like willingly servant for life is what they're saying for Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is just like I am now a bond servant for Christ Jesus, meaning I'm serving him willingly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Willingly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because Paul relates it to that Christ set him free.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, free from the law.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right free from the law.
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  SPEAKER_01: He paid a price for that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Christ did.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then Paul realizes it, so he associates himself as a bond servant, meaning I was once a slave, but now I'm not, but I'm choosing to follow Jesus Christ because I love Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then it says, to all the saints in Christ Jesus who are at Philippi.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I wanted to just go and um talking about the saints.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: He uh, as I said, he he calls in every book um saints.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I just want to clarify because we do have a daughter or granddaughter that goes to a Catholic church, which saints is means something totally different um in that, but right here in this part of the Bible, it's talk, it means holy one in Greek, and that means believers set apart by God through the faith of Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he addressed all believers as saints.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I just want to also, when he um, when he makes a um, so he makes um like a physical address and a spiritual address.
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  SPEAKER_01: He always says the saints in Jesus Christ, which is a spiritual address, we are seated with Christ.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then he also does a physical address, which who he's addressing it to, who are in Philippi.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so then, as you said, um, this letter is to the saints, the believers, and as well as the deacons and overseers.
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  SPEAKER_01: And those um, you know, in the body of Christ, which um we're all part of the body of Christ, why God is, you know, uh obviously he's always the head of you know the church, and uh the overseers or deacons are kind of like elders, pastors, shepherds um that are always guiding.
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  SPEAKER_01: And which I find interesting is that in 16 years this church has grown, that they have, you know, leadership, you know, they have like versus when he left, there was just a couple people.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so this church has grown.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um also I wanted to talk about how this book he addresses several times unity is essential for the success of the church body and the progress of the gospel in the world.
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  SPEAKER_01: He talks about it in 127, 2 um through 234, and a four.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what do you think about when God when when Paul or whoever's writing the letters in the church or when Jesus is talking, they keep on talking about the church and what that looks like.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what do you think that looked like back in the day?
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  SPEAKER_00: So back during this time, um history tells us they would meet in someone's house, they would have a dinner or a meal, and then um they would have a person read scripture and talk about scripture, and they would openly talk and communicate that.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: It would be it could be ten, twenty, thirty people in one gathering sometimes, or it could be a little bit more than that, but they would meet on on the regular throughout the it could be throughout the week or once or twice a week.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it was more or less not about a building, not about a church building that we associate, okay.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: I gotta go to church today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um it's more or less I have a relationship with Christ, you have a relationship with Christ, and the others in this room have a relationship with Christ, and now we come together and we get to learn who Christ is, Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: We get to learn about God the Father.
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  SPEAKER_00: If that's through the Old Testament or the New Testament, or the books that have been written up to that point, they would talk about that, and it's about growing in their faith.
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  SPEAKER_00: And church was established for more or less believers coming together and growing in one because we're not meant to walk this life alone.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because I've heard many people say, I don't have to go to the church because or go to church because I am the church.
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  SPEAKER_00: You are correct, you are the church, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: But you're not meant to walk this alone.
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  SPEAKER_00: So going to church, then your whole intentions of going to church is just to so to meet other believers so you can grow together.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I I just want to share this one thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been in part of this Bible study that I go to on Friday mornings.
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  SPEAKER_00: I actually lead it, but at first I went there in 2017.
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  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't the leader.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: But as the years have gone by, the thing has grown to where we have men coming together for brotherhood.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we are talking scripture and we talk about Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Us and we talk about God.
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  SPEAKER_00: But a lot of times we're sharing personal things in there that, hey, this is what I got going on in my life.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just want to make you guys aware of it so you can pray for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is what church is about.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: Is a gathering you're having church at gingers.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: Church at gingers, yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Monica is part of uh our church.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, she happens to be the waitress.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh so, but that's what church is for.
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  SPEAKER_00: For us not to, because I think the world wants to tell you you're doing this alone.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's very controversial because they're like, I can do it, I can watch the service from home and I can read my Bible at home and then go out in the world.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: But he's talking about unity in Philippians, and we're meant to um if I could just read a couple um scripture, it says like Romans 8, 14 to 17.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: It says, believers have been adopted into a new family.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're responsible for caring, loving, and building um, and carrying each other's burdens.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then Acts 2, 42, 47, we're supposed to be together in prayer and breaking of bread together.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: And in Hebrews 10, 24, 25, it says we're not to neglect gathering together, to um build one another up in love and good works.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: So it's hard to build unity and have the church that God and Paul and everyone's talking about alone.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can't do this life alone.
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  SPEAKER_01: Which is true.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like you can well, you know, if you're a believer, you know that you're going to heaven, but why not be in unity?
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I am talking from a person that does not like talking.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, hold on.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: So she's the introvert, and I'm the extrovert.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it takes a lot of energy for me to be around people or talk.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: And so I do not if I went to church before I met Scott, I just sat in the back and I absorbed as much information because I loved the information part, right?
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: And then I would go home.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: And then meeting my husband, you know, like we have to sit up close, we have to introduce ourselves to people, you know, we have to get involved.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_01: And while I didn't really want to do that, um, it has been greatly beneficial.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: I've never really had a church family, and so that is really important, you know, these Bible study women that you have, or he has, and you get to know people and you do, you know, have prayer for each other and lift each other up, and someone that's given you, you don't want to take advice for not from non-believers.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_01: You want to take that has a big biblical, you know, background in that.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and the he includes, he goes, including the overseers and deacons.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: So in Timothy and uh a couple of the other books, he has uh places in there where there's established order inside the church or in this group, there needs to be order, like deacons or overseers, or even sometimes he's mentioned the word elder, like people that have been doing this Christian walk, Christian life for a while.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: They're head that they have established themselves in the faith, and those people are on their spiritual journey way ahead of me or way ahead of my wife, way ahead of an immature believer, and those people keep are held to the so they help others shepherd, shepherd, teach, guide them, direct them, and also they're there to help the ministers on staff.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's a it's a you see in scripture that there's an order throughout scripture, even in the old testament.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: Moses was told, you probably should have some leaders.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: So he got 70 elders that would basically go out and talk to their people groups.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: Those are elders, they were older people, older gentlemen, or people that other people respected when they talked, people listen.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: And in today's world, elders, when they talk, people listen because they're supposed to be respected.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: People look at them a little differently, like, hey, you're on your spiritual journey, and I need to what do you what have you learned and you can tell me?
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: That's what an elder is.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I just want to say too that um I think both sides of that, you know, we're we're going through our church right now and they're talking about church hurt.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I think some people um have taken their leadership, you know, roles because they do have things in the Bible, what the leaders should be like voluntary, loving, eagerness, self-controlled, and not like you know, laying down the law or for their own profit or gain or whatever.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: And so, but on the flip side, too, how are they supposed to be shepherding like leaders when we're not being very good sheep, if we're not going to church?
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: How is anyone gonna help lead us?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so it goes both ways, you know.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: So the next verse says, Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, he ends all letters or not ends, begins, sorry.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um some people say that he since he's taking his Jewish background, you know, with peace with shalom, and then he's taking, you know, grace, and so he's kind of mixing the two to letters.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: This is normal for the Jewish coming to have greetings at the beginning, and so but I've always heard that he always puts grace before peace because you can't have peace without grace.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: So and that's what I've always heard too, and that's we've talked about this in all the Paul letters that we've gone through so far.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: It opens up grace and peace from God, our Father and Lord Jesus Christ.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that is Paul's signature.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: So one letter that some people think he wrote was Hebrews, but it doesn't have that signature.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: But um, that's a little side note.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, so I've been told the same thing because you can't have peace unless you have grace.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: And grace comes first, and then peace comes second.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um again, order.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: There's an order to this.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um so in verse three it says, I thank my God and all my rem remembrance of you, always in every prayer of mine for you, all making my prayer with joy.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: So you get this sense here in this section that Paul's gonna enlighten you on his heart.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: And his heart is always for the people that are in these churches and for the believers to the saints.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because well, one in verse one it says to all the saints, who are in Philippi.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: So he has a heart for other believers, just like he's a believer, he has heart for them as a believer, and he's about to give them some instruction in this letter as well.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_00: But I like where it says, always in every prayer of mine, you are you all making my prayer with joy, like he is joyful knowing that they are our believers.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's the way I took that.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: There it fills them with joy knowing that they are partakers in this journey with him.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, that's what I had some difficulty with because he goes on and says how much he loves them and how much he you know remembers them, and he fills him with joy when he remembers them.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: And if you just go back to Acts, he was like beaten, flogged, in prison, run out of town.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: But I think he um he is more not uh circumstance joy, he's more of like in the my relationship with God and the the progression of the ministry.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_01: And he's like they have done so much, you know, for like for this, you know, the building the church and and they're always um providing for you know his ministry and stuff.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_01: So, but they do say that he came back maybe in 67 A.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: D.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: So hopefully he did have some good good memories then, you know, because he is so joyful that he when he's writing this letter back to them, like he he loves them.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're in prison, one place that you're getting joy from is the remembering of people you met on these journeys when you're establishing these churches.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: Joy from watching the body of Christ grow.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and it's kind of like on Sunday mornings.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how they do it at your church.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: At some churches, they'll have new believers baptismals.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes those baptismals just make you want to cry.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_00: It does, it does, and and it's like you're just so full of joy.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like a sorrow cry, it's a happiness.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: You're like, oh my gosh, that's amazing that they are accepting Christ in their heart.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_01: I don't remember my baptism being joyful.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was I was to the point where I was giving up, like I've done it my way for so long.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like, all right, God, I'm I am done.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: So you threw the white flag.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I did.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: Mine was not joyful.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, in verse five, it says, because of your partnership in the gospel from this day until now.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: So he's remembering when they joined the partnership in the gospel with him from that day, the first day he met them until now, that they are still, he's praying that they're still on this journey with the, you know, with him in this spiritual journey as far as fellowship in Christ and in the gospel.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: And it says, and I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: And that good work that's in you, I believe he's referring.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: Some people can argue this, it's that inward outward change.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: I agree.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: When the Spirit, when you accept Christ in your heart and you believe in Christ, and you have this believing loyalty in Christ, that Christ is the head, and you love Christ, and you do things out of love, the Holy Spirit radically changes you from the inside out.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: I've said this before.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: Until the day we die.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: Until we day to die.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_00: So what is being changed on the outside is our behavior, but it's also it starts from the inside.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_01: He does the work, we don't do the work.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_00: He does.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: The spirit does the work, we just continue pursuing the Holy Spirit, pursuing Jesus in a couple of ways that looks like is every time I read my Bible, I see it in a different way, and the Spirit reveals things to me.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_00: But also when I'm in a group and we're talking about scripture, we grow in each other, but we are also growing in the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is working that inside out transformation.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I also want to say some like a lot of times you do not feel like that sanctification process, or he's in there working.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_01: But I guarantee you, if you're keeping your eyes on Christ and you're doing things, the byproduct without fail, fruit does come from that.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: You might not see it, but um you don't have to worry.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_01: The fruit is being, you know, developed.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_01: You might not see the blossoms, but you just keep your eyes on him.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_01: Even if you don't feel it, he's working.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, as you this is just Scott's opinion.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_00: As you pursue him, you're diving in the word, you're growing, you're reading, you're growing, you are fellowshipping with other believers, you're praying, however, that looks like to you, you're that growth on the inside will come more and more, and it'll be very obvious on the outside.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: The fruit that that is bearing, that you're bearing comes from that.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: And the fruit of the Holy Spirit, that's that's what that's how it happens.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: That fruit is bared on the outside.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: You start that walk and talk and chew gum a little differently.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: So um it says, uh, and then it until the you want them to he's saying, We'll bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ, meaning when Jesus comes back or the day that you are to pass.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully, that completion you continue your faith.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_00: You don't give up.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: He's encouraging that.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it says, It is right for me to feel this way about you all, because I hold you in my heart, for you are all partakers with me of grace, both in my imprisonment and the defense and confirmation of the gospel.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_00: Again, he is saying here that it is right for me to feel this way for you because you're a fellow believer, a fellow you you believe in Christ just like I do, and I love you because of that, and you have this special place in my heart, but he also was one that saw them accept Christ, get baptized, and now is hearing back how they're growing in their faith.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I I just want to tell you, when I hear others that I know are doing some radical things in Christ, oh my gosh, I just like I'm so filled with happiness because I know I'm I'm happy for them.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not jealous, I'm like, I'm so happy that they're doing these, yeah.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_00: God winks, right?
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_00: Or or just like um I'm just like feeling so much happiness for this person that I'm like, oh my gosh, that is amazing to hear that they're doing this.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: So he is saying, This is this is where I'm at, and it's both when I was a free person and now I'm in prison.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: Joy is both places.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_00: It says, For God is my witness, how I yearn for you all with the affection of Christ Jesus, and it is my prayer that you love, your love may abound more and more with knowledge and discernment.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_00: So, what is his prayer?
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I I was looking at this and I was like, he wants you to have love more and more, but it says with knowledge and discernment.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm glad he puts that in there because it like you know, I think we've talked about this before, but with your child, you want to have love, love, love.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_01: But love is not just letting them just do whatever they want, he wants them also to have knowledge and discernment.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_01: You you have to have both, or it's not true love.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so here is Colossians one, and if you go back to our podcast on this, we talked about this back way back when we were studying the book of Colossians.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: It says, And so from the day we heard, we have not ceased to pray for you, asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will and all spiritual wisdom and understanding, so as to walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to him, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_00: He is doing the same thing he said in Colossians as he's saying right here.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_00: If you go back to the verse before, it says, um, it says, I hold a special place in my heart.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_00: But then if you go back to the other verse here, it says in six, it says, A good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Christ.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_00: Who began a good work in you will begin will bring it to completion in the day of Christ, that you continue your journey on Christ.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_00: You can you continue your spiritual journey.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: And then he's also saying here it says, It's my prayer that your your love may abound more and more with knowledge and all discernment which is comes from the Holy Spirit.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Cas.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: That's where it comes from because you have two trees.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_00: You got the tree of of life, and you got the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_00: So as an unbeliever, they're resting in the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: But we have the tree of life and we can rest in that.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_00: That's who the tree of life, when we're in the tree of life, it's I can spiritual discernment and spiritual understanding.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's like um opened your eyes.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: It is, isn't it?
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, and you know when someone is giving you advice, if it's from the tree of life or not.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_00: And then if it's other tree of knowledge and good you know, good and evil, then you know where that comes, you know where it's coming from.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I think it, you know, when a unbeliever tries to read the Bible, it just seems like gibberish as well.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: You know, or but as I said, you need to have you can't just have tons of love.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: You need that knowledge.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: But thank you, Jesus, for the Holy Spirit.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: And so the one way you get knowledge is opening your Bible, reading it continually, and just not like I gotta read my Bible in a year.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_01: Not a task.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a task.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's actually say I'm gonna study the book of John, and then when I read the first chapter, it's like I'm going to other scripture because there's this thing called a coordinates in the middle of the Bible, and then you're sometimes in the Bible that you have, it tells you other scriptures that associate with that verse, and then you can look at those verses and you're like, Oh man, I did not know that John they correlate to some Old Testament scripture.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_00: Is man, I are you serious?
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: John knew the old testament, so he's writing it.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, this is where he might be getting this from.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I feel like a lot of times when you're just a task, you sit down and read it, and then you'll forget it by lunch, you know, or you know, I just had Bible study, you're like asking me, and I'm like, oh yeah, what did I study?
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like it's already out the door.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_01: But when you take a deep dive into a book, it makes you just fall in love with it.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_01: And then it's just it just stays on your heart.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, it says, like, you know, the scriptures are written on your heart.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's the only way that you, you know, how else is God gonna, you know, speak with you other than the Holy Spirit, you know, is through his word.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: And you have to know his word to be have that discernment.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_01: You have to know when there's false teachers or someone's given you, you know, as Scott said, bad um advice.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: Because if you're not in the word, you don't really know if it's truth or not.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: You have to stand firm on this truth.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_01: You just did the the um body, you know, the having a brain fart, but you know, the arm body armor of God, you know, you have to then stand on this truth.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: You have to put the armor of God on to help to help defend the lies of the of the evil.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, the lies of the evil one or your enemy.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, so discernment is a good thing.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: And it says, so that you may approve what is excellent.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: So be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ to the glory and praise of God.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just it He's wanting them to continue in their faith journey again and approve that the things are excellent.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_00: So at the time you're you're blameless.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_00: The time you meet the Father.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_01: Only He makes you blameless.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_01: And He's the only one that can give the fruits of righteousness as well.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: So he's saying praise Jesus.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_00: Praise Jesus.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, it's just um again, he's showing the heart.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_00: And he's showing his heart for the people in that church that he knew, and he probably saw them accept Christ in their heart.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_00: And probably saw them.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't he could have baptized them or someone else, and but he was there.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_00: And he's now he's saying they're a partakers.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I think that he's like you.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you're excited when you see me grow.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure he's excited to see you know his fellow believers grow.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm amazed how you have grown since we first got married till now.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um I told you that uh today.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um that I'm just amazed uh that you're in a position now where you could teach.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I think it's uh I think it's the Holy Spirit, you know, as I said, he enlightened you and uh, you know, like go here or there.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_01: And you're like those aha moments when you see things fall into place, you know, that's a blessing.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um we can continue a little bit more.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it says um in 12, it says, I want you to know, brothers, that what has happened to me has really served to advance the gospel.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: So what has happened to him, he's in prison.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_00: And even in prison, he's advancing.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_01: He says this has been a blessing because I've been able to spread the gospel.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_00: So a friend of mine that I've had on the podcast, whose name is John Jacoby, he happened to be in prison, but when he was in prison, he used it to advance the gospel.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_00: He would read his Bible every night.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_00: He would he and others would come to him for questions, uh reading the Bible.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_01: I do believe God turns all of our um circumstances for good, like it's a bad thing that happened, but he's gonna use you in that in that season of that wilderness.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it says so it has become known throughout the whole imperial guard and to all the rest that my imprisonment is for Christ.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I wonder how they all know.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's because he probably tells them.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I guess, and uh, when they were in prison, I think he's under house arrest here in Rome, and so they had to have someone right there with him at all times.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_01: And so I just envision in my head that the H1, you know, changing of the guard gets to hear it, and then hopefully, you know, they absorb it and it goes to their family and their family, you know, so it has, you know, generational consequences of hearing him.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_01: And also, I think I'll let you go further, but he talks about I think three things of how disimprisonment has um changed people.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_00: It says, uh, and most of the brothers having become confident in the Lord by my imprisonment, are much more bold to speak the word without fear.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_01: So yes, there's the second thing.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_01: So the search the prisoners got it.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_01: Then also people are like, if Paul's done it, then he's been bold.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_01: I can be bold too.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not imprisoned, and I can be bold just like Paul.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's it's um he is saying uh here that he is embolding um others to speak the word without fear.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, that's the second thing.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um it says some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_00: The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defen defense of the gospel.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_01: So he the third thing is he's inspired other people to speak.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_01: Some have good audition um, you know, and others not so good intentions.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_00: So some people are envious of him.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_00: So they speak it out of ill-hearted, but then others speak are speaking goodwill from good will.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_00: And it says the latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_00: The former proclaim Christ out of a selfish ambition, not sincerely, but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_00: What then?
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_00: Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed and and in that I rejoice.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, he doesn't care that they're doing it because they're envious or they want to be like him, or they're doing it out of love.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_01: He's just saying, if Christ is preached, then I'm joyful.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_00: But he's also saying do it of love.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_00: Do it out of love.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_00: And he's saying some people are doing it not out of their heart, they're doing it out of their selfish ambitions.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_01: But then he finishes it and says, Whatever the pretense and truth, Christ is proclaimed, so then I rejoice.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if Christ is proclaimed, Jesus Christ is proclaimed, then he's good.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_01: I had to talk with someone about this because like a lot of movie stars or um sports people or whatever say, like, when Christ, and I'm like, I can't judge whether what they are believer or not, and I don't know if they're doing it just for popularity's sake, but if Christ is proclaimed, then hooray.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: Hooray!
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I'm gonna uh end it there.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um I uh I believe Paul in these this section here is saying that he has a heart for people and he has a heart for the spreading of the gospel and the spreading of the gospel out of love and out of love for Jesus, not for personal gain or self-ambition, not that I need a new jet as a pastor.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, you need to go back to the deacons and uh the pastors who qualifications, not out not out of your wealth or uh your self-gain or self-gain, yes.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_00: And it's I think he's saying that he can't believe that he's in prison and he's just taking every minute and every day.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_00: Every opportunity, any opportunity, looking for any opportunity to s to increase the kingdom.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, which I think is sometimes um hard for us because you know, believers we're supposed to spread the word, but especially for me, I don't want to talk about it.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I talk about it in terms where I know other people are believers, but you know, what would I say to you know someone else?
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_01: And here I have Paul, he's he'd tell anybody anytime, anywhere, about you know, the fellowship of you know, following Jesus.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna end it there.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_00: And um we appreciate you listening.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_00: We appreciate um you coming and hear us just talk and laugh about what we're talking about here in Philippians, and uh it is pursuing the heart.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_00: God pursued me, now I pursue him.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_00: And uh hopefully um you've learned something or want to go into the word a little deeper.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and uh hopefully this is uh enlightened you a little bit on the um Philippians.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_00: And uh please like, subscribe, and share.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_00: And what's the and how do we usually end pursuing the heart?
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_01: Keep your eyes on Jesus.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_00: It is keep your eyes on Jesus, K-Y-E-O-J.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, we look forward to um coming back next week, and uh hopefully you join us and as we go out we have the band.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_00: Have a good one.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for listening.