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INTERVIEW: Dee-1 Talks Upcoming Album ‘The Shift’, Faith & Righteousness, Podcasting, Yung Miami + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Hold up. Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up.
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  Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club. Y'all finished or y'all done? Morning, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: It's DJ Envy, Just Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God. We are
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club. Lorna Rose is here as well. We
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  Speaker 2: got a special guest.
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  Speaker 1: In the building. My guy. Brother D1.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Man, I'm so happy to be here, man.
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  Speaker 3: How you feeling, D?
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  Speaker 1: Bro, I feel great, bro. This a blessing. I don't
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  Speaker 1: take stuff like this for granted, bro.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Thank y'all for having me, bro. This is a pinnacle of...
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  Speaker 4: Being an artist, putting in work all these years, when
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  Speaker 4: you make it to the Breakfast Club, it's an I
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  Speaker 4: made it moment.
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  Speaker 5: You've been out here, D1. You've been outside making your rounds.
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  Speaker 3: D1' s been outside.
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  Speaker 1: D1' s been outside. Come on, man.
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  Speaker 4: I feel the impact that God is using me to
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  Speaker 4: make at this season of.
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  Speaker 1: My life, bro. It feel great to me.
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  Speaker 3: It feel great.
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  Speaker 6: This is not your first time.
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  Speaker 3: No, no.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's my second time up here.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I thought the way.
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  Speaker 7: You talking was like the first time, but just being
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  Speaker 7: having gratefulness in the moment, though, is amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's how humble I am.
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  Speaker 3: I don't take this for granted. You heard me.
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  Speaker 1: I woke up this morning like, man, I'm finna go
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  Speaker 1: in the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Like, This is my second time formally on the show,
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  Speaker 4: but together, we're being used to make impact.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I could be wasting my
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  Speaker 1: life right now.
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  Speaker 4: I could be using my gifts and talents to glorify negativity, foolishness, evil, sin,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm just like, dang, God, you allowed me to
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  Speaker 4: elevate without compromising.
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  Speaker 1: That right there?
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  Speaker 4: I could brag on God all day for that to
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  Speaker 4: allow me to elevate without compromising.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, man.
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  Speaker 4: So many people elevate and we want to celebrate the success,
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  Speaker 4: but you compromise.
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  Speaker 1: Your morals to get there. That ain't nothing to brag on.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I was, uh, I was having a conversation
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  Speaker 2: with somebody the other day and they were still doing,
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  Speaker 2: I would just say F ish.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But they were, they were praying to God to get
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  Speaker 2: them out of that situation. And I was sitting there
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  Speaker 2: and I chuckled to myself a little bit. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: how you know you're still doing F-ish, but you're praying
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  Speaker 2: to God.
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  Speaker 3: To get you out of that situation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, I see that a lot. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think people understand. Like, you're still doing the F-ish,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think God's going to help you with
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  Speaker 2: the F-ish.
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  Speaker 1: That's called bootleg blessings. You heard me?
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  Speaker 4: They want bootleg blessings because God's not going to bless
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  Speaker 4: the F-ish.
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  Speaker 1: You heard me?
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  Speaker 4: That's the devil that's elevating you, my brother. You're praying
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  Speaker 4: to God, but no, no, you're elevating, but you're getting
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  Speaker 4: bootleg blessings because... We are receivers by nature. As humans,
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  Speaker 4: we are receiving blessings all the time. You don't want
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  Speaker 4: to be a receiver from a deceiver.
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  Speaker 1: You feel me?
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  Speaker 4: The devil is a deceiver. The devil is the king
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  Speaker 4: of lying to you, confusing you. And if you're trying
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  Speaker 4: to receive blessings from somebody that's deceiving you, that's bad.
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  Speaker 4: And then when you're saying, God, I'm thinking that this
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  Speaker 4: is you elevating me. Stop thanking God for stuff God
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  Speaker 4: ain't blessed. The devil elevated you. That's not real success.
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  Speaker 4: But we still got time if you start to get
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  Speaker 4: the picture. It's best to do it now. If not,
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  Speaker 4: death going to deal with you.
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  Speaker 5: People forget Satan got a kingdom too.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, man. We looking at it. We looking at
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  Speaker 1: Satan's kingdom. Like literally right here.
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  Speaker 4: That's why if you think that your heaven is here
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  Speaker 4: on earth, it's like, brother. You got life twisted. This
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  Speaker 4: is 70, 80, 90 years, whatever we get down here.
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  Speaker 4: This is so temporary. Eternity is forever. So you're spending
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  Speaker 4: your whole life trying to go viral. Meanwhile, I'm trying
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  Speaker 4: to go eternal. And when I say go eternal, man,
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  Speaker 4: what seeds can I sow? What can I plant into
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  Speaker 4: the ground? What can I leave this world with my
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  Speaker 4: gifts and talents that have eternal impact, man? I'm trying
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  Speaker 4: to make heaven more crowded because of my little brief
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  Speaker 4: time here.
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  Speaker 1: I do see.
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  Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you a question. Do you see that,
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  Speaker 2: the work that you're doing, do you see it changing
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  Speaker 2: people and changing artists? I'm starting to see it more
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  Speaker 2: and more and more.
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  Speaker 3: Are you seeing that as well?
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  Speaker 1: It's happening. Hey, bro. It's happening, bro. I see it, bro.
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  Speaker 1: I'm at Fat Joe's birthday party. Got a personal invite
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  Speaker 1: from Fat Joe.
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  Speaker 3: I seen you there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, you didn't speak to me, but
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  Speaker 1: you saw me there. You was on the other side.
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  Speaker 1: You was on the other side. I left.
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  Speaker 3: I was right there. I got in and out. I
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  Speaker 3: got in and out. I got in and out.
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  Speaker 1: So, I walk in the party. Fat Joe is on stage.
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  Speaker 1: Hot pink suit on. You heard me? on an epic
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  Speaker 1: Fat Joe rant, talking, you know what I'm saying? Going
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  Speaker 1: off talking.
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  Speaker 4: He's in the middle of cursing. He was like, and
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  Speaker 4: then we ran up and we F'd that motherfucker. And
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  Speaker 4: he's in the middle of cursing.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, D1, the positive brother is here. Like,
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the curse word, right? And he's like,
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  Speaker 1: come up on stage and say some positive shit for
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  Speaker 1: the people. You heard of it? So he gave me
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  Speaker 1: the mic and at his party, I'm on stage like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: this wasn't planned, but, uh, okay, everybody, how y'all doing?
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  Speaker 4: Uh, I just, you know, I gave a, I gave
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  Speaker 4: some D1 words of wisdom.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Gave God glory.
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  Speaker 4: Said what I said and the people was rocking with it.
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  Speaker 4: But just the way I feel embraced by the Fat
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  Speaker 4: Joes of the world, the Jada Kisses of the world,
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  Speaker 4: the man, the Breakfast Clubs of the world.
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  Speaker 1: Now, there was a time where I always felt the resistance.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? And that's why I say
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  Speaker 4: the shift is here. Like the shift is here, bro.
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  Speaker 4: Like people, people are not really demons. When I was
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  Speaker 4: a little kid growing up, We was like, dang, these
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  Speaker 4: people are really murderers. These people are really killers. These
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  Speaker 4: people are really, you know, Pablo Escobar. And they got,
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  Speaker 4: you know, all these kilos of cocaine that they actively
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  Speaker 4: pushing because they're rapping about it.
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  Speaker 1: Then you get older and you meet him. Man, that's
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  Speaker 1: just a father who's.
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  Speaker 4: Raising his kids, living in a gated community. And he
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  Speaker 4: raps about that stuff. Probably never did it. But even
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  Speaker 4: if he did do it, he's not currently living like that.
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  Speaker 4: Once you see that, you realize that people are looking
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  Speaker 4: for an escape route.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: But a lot of times they're being held down because
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  Speaker 4: of money and reputation. Those are the two things that's
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  Speaker 4: keeping our people enslaved inside of hip hop. They're afraid that, man,
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  Speaker 4: if I switch it up and if my current content
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  Speaker 4: reflects my real lifestyle now, I don't think the fans
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  Speaker 4: are going to.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate that or approve of that.
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  Speaker 4: I had a convo with somebody at Fat Joe's birthday party.
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  Speaker 1: He's a legend. I won't say his name out of respect.
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  Speaker 4: But he was like, first time meeting me, and that's
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  Speaker 4: what he pulled me to the side to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Man, I want to do different, but my fans just
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  Speaker 1: want that old version of me. Literally. So it's money
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  Speaker 1: and reputation.
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  Speaker 4: And I see that, and instead of pouncing on that
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  Speaker 4: and making fun of people for that, I'm just like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 4: let me figure out how I can make content, make music,
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  Speaker 4: and build relationships that help break through that wall.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Because evil is not what
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  Speaker 1: we fighting against anymore.
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  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: These people are not demons. People not trying to go
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  Speaker 4: to hell. You know what I'm saying? People not trying to.
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  Speaker 1: Go to jail.
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  Speaker 4: That's why they hire lawyers to fight to hopefully get
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  Speaker 4: them acquitted.
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  Speaker 1: People are not demons. Our enemy is lukewarmness.
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  Speaker 4: Our enemy is lukewarmness because people have become content with
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  Speaker 4: a lukewarm lifestyle.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to give God the glory today.
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  Speaker 7: Right?
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to get on Instagram and post something positive
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  Speaker 4: and righteous today.
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  Speaker 1: But then literally.
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  Speaker 4: Three days later, that same person will get online and
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  Speaker 4: got to post a video of them glorifying murder and
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  Speaker 4: selling dope and disrespecting women and whatnot. And it's seen
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  Speaker 4: as normal because people are like, oh, yeah, you a beast.
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  Speaker 4: You killed that verse. I remember that song. I grew
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  Speaker 4: up on that. But I also love that God post
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  Speaker 4: that you did three days ago. That's a lukewarm lifestyle
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  Speaker 4: that we've become content with, and that's what we're fighting against, man.
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  Speaker 1: It's not overt evil that's taking place out here. Like,
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  Speaker 1: think about it. It's not overt, obvious evil.
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  Speaker 4: That's going on. It's just lukewarmness that we're fighting against.
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  Speaker 4: And my thing is, like, I encourage everybody, surrender it all, man.
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  Speaker 4: Our time here is brief. Surrender it all to God.
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  Speaker 4: Just be like, God, how can I be of best
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  Speaker 4: use to you? to you and to your kingdom. That
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  Speaker 4: doesn't mean you have to become a preacher or a
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  Speaker 4: pastor or a gospel singer or rapper instantly.
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  Speaker 1: No, not at all.
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  Speaker 4: But, man, you got so much more peace when you
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  Speaker 4: just say, God, I actually don't want the elevation if
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  Speaker 4: it ain't coming from you.
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  Speaker 8: You know, D1, you spend a lot of time challenging
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  Speaker 8: rappers and challenging the culture to be more responsible with
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  Speaker 8: what they promote, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: What responsibility do you think you have to make sure righteousness...
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  Speaker 8: doesn't turn into self-righteousness.
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  Speaker 4: Righteousness doesn't turn into self-righteousness as long as you are relatable,
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  Speaker 4: as long as you are transparent about your flaws, and
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  Speaker 4: as long as you're authentic to where people see The
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  Speaker 4: process of you becoming who you are, not just the
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  Speaker 4: prize that you're promoting.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm on Breakfast Club today. That's the prize, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: D1 made it. He on Breakfast Club. That's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: But every day they could go on social media and
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  Speaker 4: see the ups and downs of what I go through
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  Speaker 4: and see the realities of like, yo, I'm flawed as well.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm still trying to figure it out. Sometimes I
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  Speaker 4: make mistakes that I got to be accountable for.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: I think that's it, bro. Some people use righteousness as
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  Speaker 4: a weapon. as a weapon to say, ah, I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to make other people feel so bad about their imperfections
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  Speaker 4: that now they got to come to me as the
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  Speaker 4: source for them, you know, getting better and getting right.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like, nah, I'm actually not the source. I'm
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  Speaker 4: just throwing alley-oops to the ultimate source, to God. So
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad y'all are attracted to my anointing, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying? But I'm just as messed up as
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  Speaker 4: you are in a lot of ways. So that being said,
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  Speaker 4: let's both go to who's better for us.
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  Speaker 1: And that's how I love.
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  Speaker 8: I wonder, are people attracted to your anointing or are
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  Speaker 8: they just responding to your criticism?
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  Speaker 4: The fans are attracted to my anointing. I've been doing
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  Speaker 4: this for a long time, brother. I got 14 albums out.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a college professor. I done toured this country and
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  Speaker 4: this world so many times. The fans rock with David
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  Speaker 4: Augustine Jr., the human being, right? The artists, at first,
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  Speaker 4: it was like, we actually don't want to be held
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  Speaker 4: accountable to anybody. So that's why I would get resistance
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  Speaker 4: from a Rick Ross, from a Jim Jones, from various people.
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  Speaker 1: Because they're like, who is this little dude from New Orleans?
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  Speaker 4: Like, we all know him. And it seems like he
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  Speaker 4: just trying to call us out publicly. And Styles P
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  Speaker 4: actually helped me change my life. Because Styles P said,
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  Speaker 4: young brother, I'm surprised you made it this far and
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  Speaker 4: nothing has happened.
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  Speaker 1: To you physically, right?
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  Speaker 4: Like we're taking such a bold stance in hip hop.
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  Speaker 4: He said, moving forward, he said, I can tell that
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  Speaker 4: your heart is pure. He said, so instead of calling
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  Speaker 4: people out, you need to start calling people in.
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  Speaker 1: I got goosebumps right now.
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  Speaker 7: That's that difference between the self-righteousness and the anointing, in
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  Speaker 7: my opinion.
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  Speaker 4: And listen, I took his advice. So that's why now
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  Speaker 4: I think the response has been different. That's why a Noriega,
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  Speaker 4: that's why a Fat Joe, that's why a Birdman, that's
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  Speaker 4: why other people behind the scenes hitting me up. in confidence,
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  Speaker 4: but even publicly saying, yeah, we stamped this. Even if
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  Speaker 4: we're not fully living this, you hear me? We stamped
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  Speaker 4: this message because it's better for our youth and we
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  Speaker 4: care about them babies.
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  Speaker 1: So I just came out with a podcast. It's called
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  Speaker 1: The Shift, right?
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  Speaker 4: Just launched it. Right now I'm two episodes in. I
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  Speaker 4: got Bun B on the first episode. That is a
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  Speaker 4: game-changing conversation because Bun has lived all of that other
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  Speaker 4: life and has fully matured in a way that I'm like, whew,
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  Speaker 4: and he don't mind speaking from both sides of the
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  Speaker 4: coin to me. That convo was number one. The second
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  Speaker 4: one was with BG from New Orleans, right? Both of
• 10:50
  Speaker 4: them are doing very well in terms of the episodes, right?
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  Speaker 4: So go subscribe, watch the Shift podcast. But the podcast
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  Speaker 4: gives me an opportunity to speak in a way that
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  Speaker 4: I can't do in a three-minute song or in a
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  Speaker 4: 90-second social media clip. And that's what's happening right now.
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  Speaker 4: People are ready to embrace something different. And the more
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  Speaker 4: they get to know your heart and they don't just
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  Speaker 4: hear your criticism or your viral clip, Then they're like, man,
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  Speaker 4: the dude might be on or something.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I love, though? And I respect you
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  Speaker 3: a lot. But you know what I respect even more?
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  Speaker 3: When I see an artist like Fabio Foran. Man.
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  Speaker 2: Because his career has been drill rap. Paid his bills
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  Speaker 2: from it, his jewelry, his cars, everything. And the fact
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  Speaker 2: that he was at his highest when it came to
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  Speaker 2: it and totally changed, that's another level. And I know
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  Speaker 2: you was in the studio with him. So how was
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  Speaker 2: talking to Fabio?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, brother, I'm so proud of Fabio Foran. That's my
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  Speaker 4: brother in battle.
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  Speaker 5: You heard me?
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  Speaker 1: Everybody ain't got soldier in their DNA. Feel me?
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  Speaker 4: Everybody ain't got soldier in their DNA. Meaning this spiritual
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  Speaker 4: water we fighting down here. Some people is like, man,
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  Speaker 4: I got to sit on the sidelines. I ain't equipped
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  Speaker 4: for that. But with somebody like Favio, like you said,
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  Speaker 4: for him to say, like, man, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: In my prime. I'm doing my thing.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm ready to give it all to God, surrender
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  Speaker 4: it all. I'm like, oh, I just got to be
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  Speaker 4: a good teammate at this point. Because that's the type
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  Speaker 4: of brothers I want to do life with.
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  Speaker 1: So we got in the studio. He's on my new album.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a joint together. It's crazy. We did
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  Speaker 4: two joints together as of now. And I was in
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  Speaker 4: the studio with Favio when he got saved.
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  Speaker 3: Explain that. Break that down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so he had already, you know, been... saying I'm
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  Speaker 4: making different type of music now. I'm making music with,
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  Speaker 4: you know, more God-centered, da-da-da. But we were in the
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  Speaker 4: studio recording. I had just left Fat Joe's birthday party.
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  Speaker 4: That's the crazy thing.
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  Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I had this same outfit on, so
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  Speaker 1: don't judge me.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, came back to the studio after Fat Joe's
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  Speaker 4: birthday party, and me and Fabio recorded our second song together, right?
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  Speaker 4: And after I finished recording my verse, out in the hallway,
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  Speaker 4: right outside the booth, me and a few other brothers
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  Speaker 4: from the camp, literally... Watch Fabio right there. Pray the
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  Speaker 4: prayer to say, like, God, I surrender everything to you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm declaring Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior for
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  Speaker 4: the rest of my life. I just want to make
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  Speaker 4: you proud. Like, bro, I'm watching this happen.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: So then when I get online and I see some
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  Speaker 4: people saying, man, he clout chasing, man.
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  Speaker 7: This is fake. How do you feel about that? Because personally,
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  Speaker 7: you're a part of his journey.
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  Speaker 6: You've seen it.
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  Speaker 4: So when I saw 50 Cent try to clown him online,
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  Speaker 4: once again, I'm in the mindset of, hey, I'm trying
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: to turn all these brothers into teammates. You know, I
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: ain't trying to be going at it, be at odds
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: with nobody. But when I see 50 try to clown
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: somebody like Fabio, who I consider a teammate, and say,
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: this the wackest rapper on the East Coast, and he
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: post that with his big platform. Ah, ah, 50, I
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: got to tell you something publicly now. I got to
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: respond publicly because I know that this is authentic. And
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: if anything, Fifth, you not no demon.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: You heard me?
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: I pulled up like 20 pictures of him wearing crosses
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: throughout his career.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: I pulled up his song. God gave me style. God
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: gave me grace.
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: Like, Fifth, you believe in God. You just ain't surrendered
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: everything to God yet.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: You feel me?
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: So don't clown a brother that's doing what you haven't
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: been able to do yet. And guess what, Fifth? I'm
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: not even mad at you because we want you too.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to recruit.
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: You heard me?
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Straight up. Everybody ain't got soldier in their DNA, but
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: I got it in mine.
• 14:09
  Speaker 8: Do you believe publicly calling somebody out actually changes them
• 14:12
  Speaker 8: or does it just sometimes.
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: Make the person... being corrected defensive.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: That's a great point, brother.
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: I feel like when messages are being promoted publicly, they
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: deserve to be opposed publicly.
• 14:22
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: That's all it boils down to. Man, because we got young,
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: impressionable kids.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: You heard me?
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: I was a middle school teacher before I was D1.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: I know how much them babies is sitting there looking
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: at social media. And if they see negativity promoted so
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: much publicly that it's normalized and they don't ever see
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: it opposed publicly, they're going to feel like, well, that
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: must not be that bad. So now, man, we got
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: to oppose the stuff publicly when sin, negativity, foolishness, evil
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: is being promoted publicly. But there's a way to oppose it.
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: And I think God has graced me with a boldness
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: to oppose stuff, but with a hard posture to where
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: people are like, man, this dude don't hate me. He
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: hates the negativity and the evil that's working through me.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: And that's because my favorite Bible scripture is Ephesians 6
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: and 12.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: We ain't wrestling against flesh and blood. You hear me?
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: You not my op. You not my op. You not
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: my op. You not my op. It's evil spirits and principalities.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: That's what we fighting against. So me knowing that, it's like,
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: all right, I know how to walk that walk, man.
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: I'm still from New Orleans. I still came up in
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: a space to where it's like, boy, you'll get your
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: dome knocked off by a dude that look like Steve
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: Urkel on the surface.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So you got to respect everybody.
• 15:32
  Speaker 8: I'm glad you said what you said about styles because,
• 15:35
  Speaker 8: you know, I was going to ask what if somebody
• 15:37
  Speaker 8: corrected you about publicly that you initially resisted.
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: But didn't realize they were right about.
• 15:42
  Speaker 8: And the reason I was going to ask you that
• 15:43
  Speaker 8: is because accountability only really works if the person demanding
• 15:46
  Speaker 8: it can receive it too.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, bro.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: I'm constantly trying to figure out how to refine my processes.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: You feel me?
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: I get a lot of criticism from people. They criticize
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: artists that I choose to feature on my songs. They
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: be like, D1, why would you.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Do a song with a Fred O'Bain? Because that was
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: my middle school student. Why would I not? Why would
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: you do a song with Boosie? You know what I'm saying?
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Why would you? I hear that type of stuff. I
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: hear people... Those are good questions, by the way, though.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: They are valid questions, for sure.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: And that's my thing, is I have to be accepting
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: of the accountability that I have to be held to.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: So my thing is this, when I do songs with
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: certain people, the game, you know, there's so many people
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: I've collaborated with.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Man, Exhibit, you know, this is all just on my.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Upcoming album, The Shift. Man, when I'm doing these songs,
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: I'm bringing them into my world.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: You feel me? That's the goal.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: Bring y'all into my world so you can showcase a
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: different side of you than what you're typically showcasing when
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: you get on these records.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: And that feels good. It feels like freedom.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: It feels like freedom to these brothers and sisters that
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: are like, yo, yeah. The world thinks that I'm just
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: some negative person because that's the reputation I garnered over
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: the years. But I'm really not that person. But I
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: don't know how to make the music feel authentic. I
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: don't know how to make people accept it. So some
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: people say, D, I stand next to you. And that
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: makes me feel more comfortable. You feel like a bridge.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Do you have that conversation or they already know? It's
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: already assumed when they're doing it.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I've had to. Great question, brother. Great question, brother. David Banner,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: earlier in my career, that's my brother.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: You heard me?
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: He from Mississippi. I'm from New Orleans.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: He sent me a verse back that has some content
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: on it that I was like, man, I can't do this, man.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Banner. And I had to have that call. I had
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: to make that call to him. And that was an
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: awkward conversation.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: You heard me?
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Because he look at me as like little bro. You
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: feel me?
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: How is little bro telling big bro, hey, man, I
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: can't hear you saying this on the song. You know,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I've had Lupe Fiasco. That's my brother. When me and
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Lupe did a song together, he was cursing on it
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: at first.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Right. And Lupe said he was testing me to see
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: if I would have the.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Guts to tell him, like, hey, bro, you can't curse,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: you know, on my songs.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Or I would appreciate you not cursing. You know what
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I mean? Kevin Gates.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: My first ever album. I'm living in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Just graduated from LSU at the time. My album was
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: called David and Goliath. I got my brother Kevin Gates
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: to feature on it. And this is my first album ever.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: So I get Gates to feature on a song. It's
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: called I Hate Money, right?
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: And.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Gates might have cursed 12 times in the verse, right?
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: And I'm in the studio with Gates.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: And after, we a lot younger. Neither one of us
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: are successful at this point, you know. And I have
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: that talk with him. And Gates looked at me in
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: my eyes and said, brother, this all I got for
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: you right now because of what I'm going through internally.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: This all I got for you. And guess what? First
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: of all, I got goosebumps right now just saying that,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: remembering that convo.
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: And I said, brother, if that's all you got for me,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I said, I'm going to accept that.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: You hear me?
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: I'm going to accept that. And we're going to make
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: this work. And I edited out every curse word in
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: the verse. You know what I'm saying? But I let
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: him keep it on there. And that's why to this day,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: me and Gates are like this. We got a brotherhood
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: that can never be broken.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: Oh, let's stay here for a second.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: What if telling the ugly truth requires ugly language? Like,
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: can art be righteous without being clean? Yes.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Boy, you a smart dude, boy. That's a heck of
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: a question. Can all be righteous without being clean? Yes.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Me, I was a marketing major in college though. So
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I just know that it's more accessible to a wider
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: audience when it's clean. I see so many spaces that
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I'm in. I'm a United States hip-hop cultural ambassador. I'm,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: like I said, was a middle school teacher, now a
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: college professor. I be performing in clubs, colleges, and churches.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Feel me?
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: And the only reason why I'm in some of these
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: spaces is because they know D1' s content is all going
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: to be clean.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: You feel me?
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: So yes, art can be righteous even if some of
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: the language is not righteous. Even if there's some bad
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: words quote unquote in it for sure and I don't
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: judge the person for those words I just simply say
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: oh if I'm getting on your song when I featured
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: on Boosie's album that just came out Boosie is cursing
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: in the song, you feel me? His artists, Spiffy Luciano,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: you heard me, Spiffy, they're cursing in the song, but
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: the theme, the message of the song is still something
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: that I stand by. But I'm like, okay, I can't
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: tell you, let's edit all these curse words out on
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: your song. But when Boosie hopped on my song, I
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: don't know if y'all heard that song, we got called Gangsta.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: That's the first song on my album.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Boosie, man, shout.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Out to Boosie, because Boosie respected me so much that
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: not only did he not curse in the verse, He
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: didn't even, he edited half of his name out because
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: at the end of the verse, he said, boost it bad.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: And he stopped. I said, bro, that's respect. That's love.
• 20:37
  Speaker 8: The Kevin Gates thing made me think about something too
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: because your philosophy is be real, be righteous, be relevant.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: What happens when being real conflicts with being righteous? Because
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: in that moment, he was being real.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Be real, be righteous, be relevant, and then sit it
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: all at the altar before God.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: That's the thing.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Sometimes being real and being righteous do conflict. Sometimes being
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: relevant conflicts with being real. Sometimes being relevant conflicts with
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: being righteous. These things will conflict, but we're operating at
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: our peak when we are real, righteous and relevant at
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: the same time.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: You feel me?
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: So that's my thing is when they conflict with one another,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: it's like, OK, that means we have work to do internally.
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: A lot of times, like when you, when you get online,
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: you talk about certain things, people might be in the
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: midst of like trying to figure out how to get
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: to all three at one time. Like that might be
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: all they got. Like Kevin Gates said, I think about
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: young Miami to spin that record and that discourse and
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: conversation around her song.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: And I know you said like, okay, like when, um,
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: uncle Luke and trick daddy defended her against, you were
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: saying that like they were arguing back against the wrong
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: thing because of, Like, it's not women can't do this.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: It's the overall message in it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: But there are people that listen to that song that
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: might be in the midst of all that, and they
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: trying to figure it out.
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: And that's just where they are. That's all they got
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: right now.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: But what were your thoughts on that? I didn't hear
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: your thoughts on that.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: I'm totally opposed to that song by Young Miami. I
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: know that that is not something that is the best
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: reflection of who she is as a person. I know
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: that God is not pleased with it. So if God
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: love it, then I love it. If God don't like it,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I don't like it.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm a hater. At the end of the day,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I am a hater. I'm a big hater. I hate
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: anything the devil loves.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: You feel me?
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: When we have a song that's glorifying scamming, shoplifting, making
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: it seem like this is cool to push this out there,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: that's not something that God is pleased with. I don't
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: care what excuse somebody try to come up with. And
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: if that's not the best of, if that's where they
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: are currently, then cool, you could have kept that on.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Your hard drive. Could have kept it on your hard drive.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: When we choose to publicly promote this stuff, our music
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: is going to outlive us. We still bumping Tupac 30
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: years later.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: You feel me?
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: So whatever he chose to say at the time in
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: that music, that is outliving his physical self. So that's
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: why we got to be really careful what we choose
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: to put out there. Do we believe in God or
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: do we not? If we believe in God, then we
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: got to believe in the devil. If we believe in heaven,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: then how are we not going to believe in hell?
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: So people want to act like, I literally heard Young
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Miami saying, man, God blessing me, y'all.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: This is my summer. You know what I'm saying?
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: I got the song of the summer. That's not God, sweetie.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: That's the devil elevating you. And I just wish somebody
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: loved you enough to tell you that.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: How do you explain Tupac?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: How do you explain Tupac?
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: How do I explain it?
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: A 25-year-old man who was still coming into his own
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: and who was still conflicted and who was extremely popular,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: extremely pulled in different directions, extremely provocative, but was still
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: trying to find himself. I don't really have smoke for
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: the younger generation. It's the OGs who should know better
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: at this point. That's the ones that I feel like, brother,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: if we can't have accountability from the top, how can
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: we expect it from the Lil Durks and the NBA
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: young boys?
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: When they got OGs that they look up to, they're
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: still pushing the negativity.
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: So is your smoke, because you brought up Young Miami,
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: so I'm talking about being blessed, right? But she's young
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: and she's figuring it out. So is your smoke with her?
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: No, it's not with her. It's with her mindset. It's
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: with her mindset, thinking that God is blessing that. And
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: that's my thing. It's like, dang, once again, you're publicly
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: pushing this. So somebody has to, if y'all really watch
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: the videos I made that were directed towards the Spend
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: That Song and Young Miami, it was affirming her in
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: so many ways in the beginning of the videos, intentionally
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: to let her know. You are not a devil. You're
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: not a demon, sweetie, at all. But your mindset is
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: something that a lot of us have been confused with,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: thinking just because it's elevating, that must be God. So
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: maybe I just need to do more of that. And
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: then I see she had her kids on stage with
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: her recently, performing at a big show and whatnot. Like, brother,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: this is not something that we should be celebrating. And
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: I don't feel bad about standing on that because I
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: don't hate young Miami as a person. But what I
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: do hate is when the older generation tries to affirm
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: that stuff and they know better. And maybe they don't
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: know better. Maybe, maybe trick daddy is not an OG.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Maybe he's a DG, a disappointing grownup. Maybe that's what
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: it is. So when I see you coming for India Irie,
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: like India Irie was so sweet. with her response. And
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: so I, like, I'm just, I'm just letting y'all know
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: that I don't think that this is the best version of,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: you know, who we are or that, however she put it.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: And when the, the way I heard him talking to her,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: I felt like that was somebody talking to my mama
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: or my auntie like that disrespectfully. So I'm just like, brother,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of people riding the fence in this
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: industry and they're afraid to be bold and pick a side.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: My thing is like, man, let's pick a side. Pick
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: a side. Ain't none of y'all trying to go to hell.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: So y'all ain't really no gangsters like y'all say y'all is.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Ain't none of y'all trying to go to jail. That's
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: why y'all hire lawyers to try to get y'all acquitted.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: So if you're not really on demon time like that,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: then that lets me know, okay, you're not built like
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I'm built because I picked a side.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I picked a side of God. I picked a side
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: of righteousness. I still got to lead with love, but
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: at least I picked a side.
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: I guess for me, right, just feeling like, you know,
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: I know God walks with me, right? I guess what
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: does love have to look like for the people you
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: talking about to actually experience your criticism as love rather
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: than condemnation?
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Most people are experiencing it as love rather than condemnation.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: And that's because the love has to look like, number one,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: being open to having a relationship.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Right. Being open to it.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I'm not ever forcing a relationship or a conversation personally
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: with anybody, but I'm definitely open to it with all
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: of these people.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Right. That's number one. Number two is saying I'm not
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: perfect either.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Like if you go on YouTube right now, my most
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: popular song with millions of views on the music video
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: is literally called I'm not perfect.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Because it's not me acting like I'm holier than thou,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: but it's just.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: The overt glorification of negativity that I'm like, Lord have mercy.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Come on, man.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: It can't come off as holier than thou sometimes.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: It can come across.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I think it comes like what he said earlier, what
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Charlamagne said earlier about condemning somebody, right? The first reaction
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: for most people when somebody goes at them publicly is defense, right?
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: You don't necessarily open up your arms publicly.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Because the first thing you do is, why is he
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: talking to me like that? Without even thinking, the first
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: thing you do is you respond with negativity back at
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: that person.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: So I got a question for y'all. Why are we
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: so comfortable criticizing Donald Trump publicly? I don't... That silence
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: is speaking volumes.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: No, I'm trying to understand.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: As black people, we constantly criticize Donald Trump publicly and
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: we feel no.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: We give no second thought into it. We feel like, yo.
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: Probably because he's the president of the United States of
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: America and, you.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Know, our taxpaying dollars.
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: Go to the government and we know that what he's
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: doing is directly impacting us as a society and it's
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: like we voted that in like we didn't we didn't
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: right that's what i'm saying but the country was there's
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: people that actually voted him in like that's something that
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: we can complain about it's like complaining like at a
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: supervisor at a job you know i'm saying i'm complaining
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: i'll go to this restaurant i don't like the service
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: i'm complaining to this But I'm not going into the
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: restaurant telling all the customers, man, y'all look stink. Y'all
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: look dirty, man. Why am I sitting in this restaurant
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: with y'all filthy motherfuckers, man?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, no, no. Watch this, though.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: You didn't vote for Donald Trump, but you feel comfortable
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: criticizing him.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Although he got elected. Right. He got elected.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: He's still the president.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: He's the president. But we feel comfortable saying I can
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: still criticize him, though. Right. Because I didn't vote for him.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: With that being said, when we got artists who have
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: been elected by our communities because we've chosen to say, yo,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: this person, we're going to support their music. We're going
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: to elevate their platform. We're following them. We're buying their
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: concert tickets, right? We're streaming their music. When these people
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: become spokesmen and spokeswomen for our communities, do they not
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: deserve to be held accountable on any level?
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: Oh, 100%.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: So that's all that's happening is that people just don't
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: want accountability.
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: But I think when you talk about an elected official,
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: I'm calling him out because of policies that he's implemented, right?
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: I think it's different when you're calling somebody out morally because, like,
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: who gets to define righteousness?
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Is it you?
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Is it Christianity?
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: Is it scripture? Is it community standards?
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: I have a question.
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: When you talk about Tupac, right, I've heard you say
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: that some of our, like, rap OGs are probably burning
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: in hell.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: That's hard. Hey, y'all want to sit there for a second? Yes.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: Please explain that, and then I'll get back to what
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: I was talking about.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: All right, sweetie.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: If we believe in God, do we believe in the devil?
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: All right? If we believe in heaven, do we believe
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: in hell? Absolutely.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: If we believe in Jesus, I heard you pray in
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the name of Jesus the other day.
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Right? You believe in Jesus, right? Do you believe Jesus
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: is a truth teller or a liar?
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: A truth teller.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: So Jesus is the.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: One who speaks about hell constantly in the Bible. And
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Jesus says that he is God. And the only way
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: to get to the father is through the son. So
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: that being said, if we see that people clearly and
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: overtly are living a life and pushing the opposite of
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: everything that God stands for, and if they never even
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: claim any allegiance to God, to Jesus, any of that stuff,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: then according to Jesus, not D1, according to Jesus, where
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: are they going?
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're basing that off highlights.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: What you know.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: No, I'm basing that on the word of God.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: Here's the thing, D1, I don't know you. I know
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: you as a person, right?
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: But I don't know what you do throughout the day,
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: all day, every day. I don't know the whole totality
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: of your life. And it's the same thing with those
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: brothers that you said are in hell. I don't know
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: what their journey was with God.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: I don't know what, what happened, what their relationship was.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know what they be doing when they go home.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: That's the, right, right. So that's the, I love when
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: we do this.
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: Cause in the Bible, there are so many stories about God,
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: like in not giving up on, or like the, uh,
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: the prodigal son and like waiting and not giving up
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: and all these things. And sometimes when I'm listening to you,
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: it's like, It's either left or it's right. It's not
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: that like people are here in the middle and maybe
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: you trying to figure out where you are and how
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: you understand it and you fighting back and having to repent.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: So if the conversation is about heaven and hell, that's
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: for people that are no longer living, right? People that
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: are still here, man, we got to love on them
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: and do life with them until we all take our
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: last breath. But for people that are no longer here,
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: like there is no way that Charlemagne is not a
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Trump supporter, but would get on the radio every day
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: and support Trump.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: I don't understand what you just said.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Listen, that silence is loud.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Watch this, watch this. There's no way that a person
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: is sitting here like, man, I love God, man.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I love God. Like, I love God. I love Jesus specifically.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: And I'm trying to live every aspect of my life
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: to push his word and his love, right?
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: But every day.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: What I'm choosing to publicly push and promote is the
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: exact opposite of it. I'm pushing the glorification of murder,
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: drug dealing, disrespecting women.
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: I don't agree with that because you got people in
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: the church that are publicly these people for God and
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: so righteous, but privately they are horrible and.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: They are hell.
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: And when you go see God and you go talk
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: to who you talking to, you're going to go to
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: heaven or hell and you don't even know that.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't say that that's not true.
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: But I'm saying if that's true, how is your point
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: true too?
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: They're both true. Two things could be true at the
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: same time.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: But you can't critique people as if only one thing
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: is true is my point. And that's how it sometimes
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: can be.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Y'all want me to go to the scripture to say
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: people are going to go to hell?
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: No, no, no.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying people go to hell. I'm just saying
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: what gets you there.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how do we know?
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: How can you say without a shadow of a doubt
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: that that person is in hell?
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: It's been that. It's in all of us. I didn't
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: say Young Miami was going to hell. No, no, no.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Don't make that the headline. I was going to ask.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: Is Young Miami going to hell because she made spin that?
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: But.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Because what if.
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: These rappers are doing this publicly, but behind the scenes,
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: they're the most God-fearing, please God, forgive me, blah, blah, blah.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: That's why they get on stage and say, thank you, God,
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: and stuff like that, but their music may not reflect that.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Not only that, you hear all the time.
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: To the opposite point of Lawrence there, because you can
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: be the pastor that's doing the godly stuff in public,
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: but you got all the hoes behind the scenes.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: How many times do you hear somebody that did not
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: believe in God their whole life, right? Then right before
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: they die, they wake up and they have the light
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: and they say, I believe in God, I've seen him.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Does that person go to hell?
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Because it's 60 years, 70 years on this earth, he
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: didn't believe in God. He didn't pray to God. But
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: that one moment before he died, he got the light
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: on because you hear it all the time.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden they believe. Yeah.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Does that person go to jail? That's an amazing question.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: I believe that person, if that act of repentance and
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: accepting the Lord Jesus as their Lord and Savior right
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: before they died, if that happened, I believe that person
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: is going to heaven, right? I believe that person is
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: going to heaven. But they spent, they actually wasted their
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: whole life leading a bunch of other people down the
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: wrong path.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: But the question is if they're going to heaven or hell.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I answered that.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: And that one artist that you said, that one artist
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: that did all that, right before that artist dies, he
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: had that wake up moment.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Say y'all, say y'all, say y'all.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I'm just asking.
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: No, no, no, no.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Whatever you said is how.
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: I feel because I'm like, when I heard you say that,
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: it did make me cringe. I'm like, damn, D1, how
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: you know they're going to hell? I'm going to tell
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: y'all this. I'm going to tell y'all this.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Listen, brother. How many of y'all ever been shot before?
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: I've never been shot.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Never been shot. Thank God.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Praise God.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Praise God.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Thank God.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Been shot at a couple times. Hit my car, but
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I've never been shot.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Hey, that bullet come quick. That bullet come quick.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: So, if you ain't had that moment to the point
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: where like, hey, and I got certain artists in mind
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: when I say this, but I'm trying not to be
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: that dude.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I'm trying not to be that dude.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Bro, if everything you was doing and living and publicly
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: promoting up until that point... was glorifying everything that the
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: devil loves. And then that bullet hit you.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: You heard me?
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: And you ain't know that mother was finna hit you.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: It wasn't a slow motion bullet.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: You gone. Oh, you think that person in heaven?
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: You don't know because you don't know what he was
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: doing in his life.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Outside of what you saw publicly. What exactly?
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Do you believe anybody is in hell?
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: Yes, I believe people are there.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: I don't know all the why. I haven't checked the
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: attendance record. I don't know.
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: But what I'm saying is that I do think that
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: there are... I just think that the pulpit can happen
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: in a lot of different places. And I think when
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: you talk to people who are trying to believe in
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: religion or spirituality, faith, I know people try to separate
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: those things.
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: When you talk to them like it's so.
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: Black and white, it does the opposite of what I
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: think we are supposed to be doing.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: So y'all know that. So actually, what I don't want
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: to happen is.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Like I get embraced by so many people and so
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: much love that the people who don't embrace me or
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: the negativity or whatever, Do y'all realize that that.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Is a loud minority of people who feel a way, right?
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: At this point.
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: It happens that way with everything.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so watch this.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: So I don't want for a new person who's being
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: introduced to D1 right now to think, I ain't even
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: going to go listen to his music or watch his
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: podcast because it just seems like he say everybody going
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: to hell and it seems like nobody like him and
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: they're so opposed to him. No, the reality is that
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: by the grace of God, I have had a way
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: of being a bridge and infiltrating spaces with the same
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: message to where people are embracing me. Nori got me
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: on Drink Champs, talking like what I'm talking. Fat Joe,
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Memphis Bleak, all this stuff. It's to the point to where, like,
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: The truth might hurt sometimes. What this brother said yesterday,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: I was on a plane.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I had Wi-Fi.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: I was like, man, oh, I feel it, what you
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: said about the N-word. Why are we trying to come
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: up with all these justifications to use a word that
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: was meant to demean us?
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Thank you, bro. Like, thank you, bro. Thank you for
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: that boldness.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Take that message and apply it, mind, with eternal implications.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Why are we trying to come up with all these
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: excuses for sin? Why are we trying to come up
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: with all these excuses? For negativity.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: For stuff that's clearly overtly evil.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: This ain't people that got their own vices that they're
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: privately struggling with. We all got those. And we all
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: deserve grace. We all deserve people to walk that walk
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: with us.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: But we have got to a point as a culture...
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: And specifically as black people, man, it's called black protectionism.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: You heard me?
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: My old college professor, Dr. Leonard Moore, he told me
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: about it. Black protectionism. Man, anything that's black, we try
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: to find a way to justify it because we love
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: our people so much.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: And Lord have mercy. We love our people. But I'm
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: not going to love black people more than I love
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: God ever. Do you love black people more than you
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: love God?
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: I feel like black people love God.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: So white people not God?
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: When I look at my people, I see God in them.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: So what about when you see.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: When.
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: I see humans, I see God. But I'm black, so
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: I grew up around black people. I love my people.
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: So when I see you, I see God. When I
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: see Lauren, I see God. When I see Envy, I
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: see God. So I always try to carry myself. I
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: try to always keep that in mind because I want
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: to remember that always because I'm not going to do
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: God wrong.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I feel it.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: So when you see a version of us that's like,
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: that's not reflecting the God in you, my brother.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: That part, your job is to love on that person. 100%.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: And to say, come on, young king. Every time I
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: talk to this man, every time we communicate, that man say, peace, king.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Peace, king. What's up, king? That stuff be making me
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: feel a way. I be like, man, thank.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: You, bro.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Like, I feel affirmed. But there's affirmative love and there's
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: transformative love, right?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Dr. Trisha Rose. Affirmative love is when
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: you love somebody.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: So much that all you want to do is affirm
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: them and say nice things about them because you're genuinely
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: rooting for them.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: But that ain't as good as transformative love.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Transformative love is I'm going to affirm you when it's
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: time to affirm you, but when it's time to correct you,
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: when it's time to pour into you and say that
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: ain't the best version of you, hey, I got to
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: call that out.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I got to say you could do better.
• 38:20
  Speaker 8: I guess I want to go answer the question that
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: I want you to answer the question I asked earlier.
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: Who gets to define righteousness, though?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: The Word of God.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Not D1. Not Charlemagne. You know what I'm saying? The
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Word of God. That's it, brother.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: What's more important to you? This is my last question.
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: What's more important to you at this stage of your life,
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: being right or being useful?
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Being purposeful is more important. So it's neither one of those, honestly.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Everything is about purpose, and it's about fulfilling God's purpose
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: for my life.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: If I care about being right, I could be right
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: while doing wrong. That ain't fire. I could be useful
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: while doing wrong.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: You could be wrong about being right.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: I could be wrong about being right. I could be
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: useful while doing negativity and evil. I'd rather be purposeful
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: according to God's purpose for my life, man. So sometimes
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: people say, is it A or B?
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: It's G-O-D.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: There you have it.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: My man D1.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Hey, let's get into a joint.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: What you want to hear?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: We might as well play the song. First of all,
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: my new album, The Shift, is dropping next month, October 12th.
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  Speaker 4: Y'all can pre-order it right now, so please go pre-order.
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  Speaker 1: It on Bandcamp.
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  Speaker 4: Name your own price. And my new podcast, The Shift,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: is out right now. now as well, man.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Please go tune in.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: This podcast changing the game. Shout out to all my
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: guests I've been having on there. I would love to
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: get y'all on there at some point.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: Straight up.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: That being said, let's get into this joint. Gangsta Remix
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: D1 featuring Boosie.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: All right. Well, D1, we appreciate you, brother, always.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: Can you send us the clean version of the record?
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Shut up.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: I'm like, man, what is this?
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Shut up.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Shut up, man. It's clean.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: It's The Breakfast Club. It's D1.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Good morning. Yeah.