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Bring On the Mess, Miss Taylor Frankie Paul is America’s New Bachelorette · I Do, Part 2

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Speaker 1: Hey, there, folks. It was one year ago this week.
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Speaker 1: Robot and I were on our way to iHeart Studios
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Speaker 1: in Manhattan to meet and interview a reality TV star,
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Speaker 1: And honestly, we were excited and a little nervous to
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Speaker 1: meet her because all we knew of her was what
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Speaker 1: we'd seen on the show. And on the show, let's
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Speaker 1: just say she's a handful. But she not just won
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Speaker 1: us over, she wowed us and even warmed our hearts.
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Speaker 1: Her name Taylor Frankie Paul. So imagine our delight in
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Speaker 1: finding out this week she's the new bachelorette. Fellas, God
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Speaker 1: bless you, and with that, welcome to this episode of
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Speaker 1: Amy and TJ. What the actual hell Taylor Frankie Paul
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Speaker 1: is the new bachelorette? The show is going a different direction.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that was jaw dropping, to be honest, Yes, we
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Speaker 2: loved her, and mostly because she's just her authentic, messy
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Speaker 2: self and I think we all have versions of that.
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Speaker 2: Hers might be a little extreme and on display for
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Speaker 2: the world to see. But you are talking about a
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Speaker 2: young woman, she's thirty one, who is a single mom
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Speaker 2: of three kids. She has very much said, I have
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Speaker 2: two baby daddies, she has one divorce, and she was
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Speaker 2: made famous and kind of thrust into this reality world
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Speaker 2: and offered a show because of a soft swinging situation
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Speaker 2: she had with her first husband where she would have
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Speaker 2: sex with friends with him having sex with their wives
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Speaker 2: in beds right next to each other. So yes, this
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Speaker 2: is a departure from other choices for a bachelorette.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and look, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives a
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Speaker 1: breakaway hit on Hulu and that is how when they
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Speaker 1: approached us and wanted us to possibly interview her and
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Speaker 1: another cast member. We had to get caught up and
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Speaker 1: we watch the show. I think yes, we had several episodes.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if we binged it or they send
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Speaker 1: us the episodes to what.
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Speaker 3: We've sent us about.
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Speaker 2: I think three episodes in advance of the release of
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Speaker 2: the series.
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Speaker 1: Okay, do you remember your impressions of her initially in
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Speaker 1: watching the show.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I thought she was wild. I thought she was
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Speaker 3: just she was I thought she was one of those.
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Speaker 2: Women who I probably would have veered away from because
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Speaker 2: of the drama.
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Speaker 3: She is a she.
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Speaker 2: Attracts a lot of drama, but she's a lot of
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Speaker 2: fun to be around, and she's sweet, and she's wild
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Speaker 2: and crazy and all of that, but she's.
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Speaker 3: Fun to watch. I don't know how much fun I
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Speaker 3: would have thought she would have been to be friends with.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that was impression in watching the show, and I'm
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Speaker 1: with you. She was just a little Tasmanian devil to
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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of ways. And yes, there
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Speaker 1: was so much drama surrounding her, whether she brought her
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Speaker 1: on herself, she egged it on or whatever. When that
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Speaker 1: damn studio door opened and she walked in, I am
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Speaker 1: telling you, it was a whole new world and a
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Speaker 1: whole new her. I'm not saying she's putting on on
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Speaker 1: the show, but there is to your when we first started,
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Speaker 1: an authenticity with her that actually I think is coming
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Speaker 1: from a real place, a good place. She's authentic, and
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Speaker 1: she's emotional because she cares so much about this or that,
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Speaker 1: and yeah, she's still a young woman. She could admit
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Speaker 1: some mistakes she's made and things she should have done differently.
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Speaker 1: But I think the thing about her that you and
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Speaker 1: I certainly appreciated and respect it was just her being
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Speaker 1: authentic and didn't seem to be putting on shot, not
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Speaker 1: trying to win us over in any way, and we
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Speaker 1: really appreciated.
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Speaker 2: The time we have with and I do think she
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Speaker 2: was unapologetically herself and she came into the studio she
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Speaker 2: I believe at that point was a year sober, because
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Speaker 2: she had come off facing charges and she pleaded out
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Speaker 2: in some way to aggravated assault, and that all stemmed
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Speaker 2: from a very drunken evening and a fire with her
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Speaker 2: baby daddy, her boyfriend who she's since broken up with.
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Speaker 2: But she had hit rock bottom, so to speak, on
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Speaker 2: national television, and everyone knew her mess and everyone knew
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Speaker 2: her worst behavior, I guess, and was all being held
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Speaker 2: against her in a lot of ways and still is
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Speaker 2: for some people, I'm sure. But when you go through
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Speaker 2: something like that, something of your own doing, even you
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Speaker 2: have a well she had a very admirable level of
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Speaker 2: humility and understanding and wisdom that she gleaned from going
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Speaker 2: through all of this.
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Speaker 3: But she also still had that spark, that energy.
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Speaker 2: That fun, cute, sweet hopeful energy of doing better and
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Speaker 2: having and enjoying her life despite all the mistake she made.
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Speaker 3: It led her to.
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Speaker 2: Exactly where she was right then a year ago, sitting
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Speaker 2: across from us, and we both genuinely liked her, appreciated her,
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Speaker 2: and were rooting for her as she left the studio.
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Speaker 1: A joy, optimism and in someone you have to appreciate
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Speaker 1: and then you throw into it. Yes, she is. She
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Speaker 1: has the personality to boot. She's a hoot. So that
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Speaker 1: show is a hit, hit show for Hulu, which is
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Speaker 1: owned by Disney. Bachelorette is a sinking, sinking, nearly dying show.
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Speaker 1: Somewhat argue on ABC, which is owned by Disney. So
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Speaker 1: what should we do here, robes If we as a
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Speaker 1: company have reality show gold over here and a waning
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Speaker 1: reality show over here, how could we possibly make this work?
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Speaker 3: And this is absolutely a ratings grab.
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Speaker 2: And a lot of folks point to the fact that
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Speaker 2: this is a ratings stunt because the Bachelorette and Disney,
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Speaker 2: we know it well. They are a conservative brand, so
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Speaker 2: to speak. And this has been a show about marriage.
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Speaker 2: This has been a show that hasn't just been about
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Speaker 2: entertainment or antics or drama.
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Speaker 1: And I think I want to make sure. I think
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Speaker 1: you were saying conservative terms, not politics, polactics, not pushing
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Speaker 1: the envelope.
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Speaker 3: Correct.
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Speaker 2: This is broadcast television. This isn't cable. There aren't f
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Speaker 2: bombs flying. There aren't sexual scandals.
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Speaker 3: That are being lauded.
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Speaker 2: This isn't that's not what this show has been about
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Speaker 2: that you know, we think about reality show on Bravo
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Speaker 2: or on Yes Hulu, on all of these streaming networks,
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Speaker 2: you can go into a lot of extremes that ABC
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Speaker 2: and Disney would never want to do.
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Speaker 1: So this is controversies they have been at. Any time
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Speaker 1: a little hint of a controversy has come up on Bachelorette,
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Speaker 1: they freak out exactly.
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Speaker 2: So they are inviting a walking controversy and certainly goes
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Speaker 2: against When I say conservative, I also mean values.
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Speaker 3: So you know, you've got somebody who was a.
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Speaker 2: Swinger who actually told everyone else about her swinging. It
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Speaker 2: wasn't as if she found out she decided to tell
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Speaker 2: everyone about it. She's been divorced, she's been in a
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Speaker 2: messy relationships, she's been arrested for a violent act and
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Speaker 2: had some sort of plea deal surrounding that, and she
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Speaker 2: hasn't been shy about talking about it. And she's got
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Speaker 2: three children, she's a single mom. So yes, this is
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Speaker 2: a massive departure and they will get a lot of
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Speaker 2: eyeballs because there are huge fans of Mormon Wives, and
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Speaker 2: they'll be watching just to watch Taylor Frankie Paul do
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Speaker 2: her thing because she is going to be entertaining.
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Speaker 1: And this is not a criticism of what they're doing. Now,
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Speaker 1: I knock yourselves out. Do whatever you want to do
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Speaker 1: when it comes to ratings, and a lot of people
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Speaker 1: will say this is a brilliant idea. It does tell
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Speaker 1: you we're changing the Bachelorette franchise. That's okay. They are
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Speaker 1: trying to keep up the Bachelorette with streaming dating shows
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Speaker 1: that have taken off and raise the bar when it
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Speaker 1: comes to how RAUNCHI you can get. The Bachelorette is
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Speaker 1: rated G compared to triple X of some of the
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Speaker 1: stuff we're watching on streaming. Who wants to watch the
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Speaker 1: Bachelorette and everybody be all sweet and get out of
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Speaker 1: their limos and do all this When I can go
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Speaker 1: watch these hot bodied people make out and then go
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Speaker 1: fight about it. She is that and so I have
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Speaker 1: no problem if they want to make the ratings grab.
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Speaker 1: I am I guess disappointed because we have had a
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Speaker 1: close relationship with Bachelor Nation for a long time and
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Speaker 1: including a lot of people who have been on those
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Speaker 1: shows in one way or anothering that we consider friends.
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Speaker 1: We have actually spent a lot of time with Trista
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Speaker 1: and her husband recently, like real good time to see
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Speaker 1: that family unit and to hear their story about their
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Speaker 1: struggles and their real love and how they have been
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Speaker 1: fighting and to stay together in twenty years? How many
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Speaker 1: three kids? Teenagers? All, I'm like, wow, I love that
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Speaker 1: this is not a show about finding love and engagement
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Speaker 1: at the end anymore. And that's okay too.
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Speaker 2: But they're not saying that publicly. Bachelorette is not, and
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Speaker 2: certainly this is a show about marriage.
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Speaker 3: I mean, they do tout.
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Speaker 2: The relationships and the babies that have been made in
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Speaker 2: both of the franchises, So are they going to have
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Speaker 2: to acknowledge here that this is about entertainment, this is
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Speaker 2: less about I mean, I'm going to be the cynic
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Speaker 2: here and nothing against Taylor Frankie Paul because we absolutely
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Speaker 2: enjoy her, love her and wish for the best. But
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Speaker 2: do you genuinely think she's on this show to find
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Speaker 2: a husband?
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Speaker 1: No, because even in the Disney press release it said
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Speaker 1: she is ready to trade headline making heartbreak for hometown
9:42
Speaker 1: dates as she begins making her mark on Bachelor.
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Speaker 2: Nation, making her mark. So they're acknowledging it in that
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Speaker 2: press conference that this isn't about her trying to find love,
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Speaker 2: trying to find mister Wright, We're.
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Speaker 1: About to put on a show with somebody that you
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Speaker 1: all really really like, and we know as entertaining as hell.
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Speaker 3: That's okay, that's okay, that's okay.
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Speaker 2: But I and you're right if the Bachelorette fan base
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Speaker 2: has shrunks to such a small margin that they aren't
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Speaker 2: really gonna get us say in what they'd prefer, if
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Speaker 2: they'd prefer a true love story, a woman actually looking
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Speaker 2: for love, a woman actually looking to settle down and
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Speaker 2: find a man. And to your point that we were
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Speaker 2: talking about before we jumped onto the microphones, these men,
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Speaker 2: how many men are actually looking for a woman where
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Speaker 2: they have to move to the state of Utah because
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Speaker 2: she's made that very very clear that she will not.
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Speaker 2: And I get that with her kids, and she said,
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Speaker 2: because I don't have just one baby daddy, I have
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Speaker 2: two baby daddies. I do not have a choice other
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Speaker 2: than to live in the state of Utah. So now
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Speaker 2: you're saying you're gonna get an eligible group of men
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Speaker 2: who have to move to the state of Utah, who
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Speaker 2: are totally okay with raising two different men's children who
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Speaker 2: are very very young. One I believe her kids are one, five,
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Speaker 2: and eight. And so you're juggling with two x's their
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Speaker 2: kids and you have to live in Utah. How many
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Speaker 2: men would run into that relationship?
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Speaker 3: Willingly?
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Speaker 1: You on paper would never say that's what you are
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Speaker 1: looking for? Obviously, But this rose you bring up is
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Speaker 1: going to be a very important point in conversation and
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Speaker 1: a sensitive one around this dating show. What's wrong with
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Speaker 1: dating a woman who is once divorced, has three kids,
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Speaker 1: has this stuff going on to where we are, we
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Speaker 1: might get some insight into saying that's okay. It's like
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Speaker 1: it's okay to date someone who's been divorced, and generally
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Speaker 1: we know that. But normally, and you're looking at your
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Speaker 1: dating pool, that wouldn't be your first go to or
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Speaker 1: you know what, it would be a turnoff if you
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Speaker 1: were sitting next to someone on the first or second date.
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Speaker 1: I got three kids, they're at this age two or
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Speaker 1: with this guy. Another's with this guy, and I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: need you to move to Utah. I'm never gonna leave
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Speaker 1: here one day too. You would say no, you would
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Speaker 1: say I can't sign up for this. But in this case,
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Speaker 1: all of these guys know exactly what they're signing up for,
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Speaker 1: which is her. The problem there is what robes are
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Speaker 1: they really signing up for? Love?
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Speaker 2: That's my point, that's my point to be stars because yes, exactly,
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Speaker 2: and obviously in no way am I or you, but
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Speaker 2: certainly am I because of what I just said, implying
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Speaker 2: in any way that she's any less valuable as a human,
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Speaker 2: as a partner. In fact, I think that sometimes when
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Speaker 2: you've gone through actually not sometimes, most times, when you've
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Speaker 2: gone through what she's gone through, you're going to be
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Speaker 2: a better partner because you have made the mistakes and
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Speaker 2: you've hopefully learned from those mistakes, or at least, if
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Speaker 2: that's your goal, to constantly be in that mode of
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Speaker 2: learning and evolving because of what you've been through. So
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Speaker 2: I actually there's incredible value to that. My point is
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Speaker 2: when you've got these twenty something year old guys, who
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Speaker 2: are you know, all model good looking, the idea would
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Speaker 2: be that mostly they'd be there for the Instagram followers,
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Speaker 2: for the deals that you're going to get from brands.
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Speaker 2: You see what's happening with Love Island and all of
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Speaker 2: these shows that we have actually loved watching from the
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Speaker 2: relationship standpoint, and you still do get really interesting takeaways.
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Speaker 2: But the truth is, these folks all now see the
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Speaker 2: business model attached to being on a reality show and
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Speaker 2: even a reality dating show. It's less about the relationship
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Speaker 2: and it's more about the career.
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Speaker 1: So if we're all in on it, is it fine?
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Speaker 1: I mean, they're not trying to fool us to think
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Speaker 1: this is.
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Speaker 2: All about It does take away, yes, I get it,
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Speaker 2: but it does take away a little bit, like I'm
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Speaker 2: less excited about watching if I know that it's all
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Speaker 2: just for money and it's all just for what comes
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Speaker 2: after the show. It's all about being a brand champion
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Speaker 2: for whatever that makes it feel. Again, we talked about authenticity,
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Speaker 2: and that's what I'm hoping from Taylor Frankie Paul that
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Speaker 2: she's she's not in on it, She's just gonna be
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Speaker 2: real and if she sees some guy there for the
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Speaker 2: wrong reason, she's going to call them out on it,
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Speaker 2: which actually will be refreshing. I do think that that
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Speaker 2: is her appeal one hundred percent, and she can't deviate
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Speaker 2: from that. I can't imagine she would at this point.
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Speaker 3: Why would she?
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Speaker 1: Now, Well, folks, if you don't believe us that this
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Speaker 1: is a ratings grab, if you will, she is not
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Speaker 1: the only Secret Lies of Mormon Wives star that is
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Speaker 1: going to be showing up on another reality show on ABC.
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Speaker 1: Will tell you who they are. Also, they have put
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Speaker 1: out a call for eligible bachelors. We will read to
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Speaker 1: you the casting call for the upcoming Tailey Tailey, Taylor,
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Speaker 1: Frankie Paul. I'm surprised I haven't screwed that up.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned that she actually has three first names. That's
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Speaker 3: unusual Taylor and confusing Paul.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll tell you what the casting call actually says.
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Speaker 1: Stay here all right, back now, folks. They are yes,
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Speaker 1: taking a shot at, so say Robe, saving the Bachelorette franchise.
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Speaker 1: They have now cast Taylor Frankie Paul of Secret Lives
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Speaker 1: of Mormon Wives, no doubt the breakout star of that show.
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Speaker 1: She is now the Bachelorette. The mother of three is
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Speaker 1: going to be the new Bachelorette. Clearly, Rose, you know
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Speaker 1: what the Bachelorette franchise. I didn't realize how much it
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Speaker 1: has been hurting in recent seasons to the point this
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Speaker 1: year is the first time and the second time in
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Speaker 1: its entire history, they didn't air it during the summer.
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize The Bachelorette is a summer thing. They
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Speaker 1: moved it from the lineup this year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Paradise didn't do well either, which is a spinoff
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Speaker 2: that I have liked over the years.
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Speaker 3: So they have been struggling.
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Speaker 2: And just to get an idea of the reaction from
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Speaker 2: some of the fans, who most people believe more are
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Speaker 2: fans of the Secret Wives of Mormon Wives Secret Lives
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Speaker 2: of Mormon Wives than they are of The Bachelorette. But
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Speaker 2: one fan on ex roate ABC and Hulu ate that
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Speaker 2: casting up another did that did make the tectonic plates
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Speaker 2: below me shift, Like people are really excited. Quite possibly
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Speaker 2: one of the smartest moves in reality television.
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Speaker 3: Space I've seen in years.
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Speaker 2: So from a marketing standpoint, this is full excitement. I mean,
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Speaker 2: people are like they cannot wait to see because they
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Speaker 2: believe they're going to be watching a train wreck on
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Speaker 2: broadcast TV in a storied franchise that hasn't really had
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Speaker 2: anyone quite like Taylor Frankie Paul No, and all.
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Speaker 1: Of and this is not an insult in any way,
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Speaker 1: but are very much put together young ladies who have
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Speaker 1: been the head of that franchise. I can't remember a
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Speaker 1: lot not watching the seasons, but I mean a lot
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Speaker 1: of them came through the studio, a whole bunch of.
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Speaker 3: Rachel Lindsay a friend of ours.
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Speaker 1: Rachel, but I mean I can't compare even knowing Lindsey
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Speaker 1: or Rachel. As well as we know her personally, we
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Speaker 1: party with her. I haven't seen her be as wild
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Speaker 1: as no, no, no, no Tuesday morning, you know.
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Speaker 2: No, it was more about representation and she was, oh yeah, no.
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Speaker 2: This this is a massive departure.
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Speaker 1: When you say most of the bachelorettes, again not to
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Speaker 1: be offended, are very much put together, buttoned up, very professional,
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Speaker 1: very I.
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Speaker 3: Would use the word wholesome.
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Speaker 2: Okay, fine, I mean I hate to say that, but
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Speaker 2: I would say that would be the image that ABC
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Speaker 2: and Disney have put out with the bachelorettes. They've chosen
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Speaker 2: have been relatively wholesome, wifey material, like that's what they
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Speaker 2: have been putting up as their poster woman for the
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Speaker 2: Bachelorette up until now.
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Speaker 1: So in that regard. I do like the idea of
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Speaker 1: putting someone up who is not in line with that idea,
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Speaker 1: that mindset perfection is still wify material. I like that idea.
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Speaker 2: I do too, because perfect is unattainable. Perfect is sometimes
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Speaker 2: you know, I guess who was interesting to try and watch.
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Speaker 2: But then it also I think as young women. I
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Speaker 2: watched the show a couple of times with my girls
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Speaker 2: many many years ago when they were little, and sometimes
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Speaker 2: I kind of got icky, feeling like it was this
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Speaker 2: fairy tale, like Cinderella's looking for her prints, and it
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Speaker 2: had that kind of a feel to it.
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Speaker 3: So for that, I do love that Taylor Frankie Paul.
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Speaker 2: Is a modern day woman in the sense that she
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Speaker 2: has made mistakes. She's not apologizing for her mistakes. She's
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Speaker 2: owning them, she's learning from them, and she's sharing them.
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Speaker 2: So we all maybe feel a little less shitty about
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Speaker 2: the decisions we've made in our lives. I mean, we
18:34
Speaker 2: all live in glass houses exhibit A right here. I
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Speaker 2: appreciate people who've been through stuff and aren't shying away
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Speaker 2: from it, but are leaning into it.
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Speaker 3: And she's one of them.
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Speaker 1: And so yes, we talked about Yes, the Bachelorette franchise
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Speaker 1: has been struggling in recent years with ratings, to the
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Speaker 1: point some thought the show might actually go away last Now,
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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, you said you used
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Speaker 1: to like the Bachelor in Paradise franchise to watch a bachelorrette?
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Speaker 1: Why did you fall?
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Speaker 3: Because it got boring? Boring, it got boring, and I
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Speaker 3: just didn't like.
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Speaker 2: The truth is, I actually do believe that some of
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Speaker 2: the competing relationship shows on streaming services are just far
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Speaker 2: more interesting and new and exciting.
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Speaker 3: And who how's this going to work?
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Speaker 1: As so high and sexy and drama filled.
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Speaker 2: And you only have so much free time, and so yeah,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go where the entertainment is versus something
19:22
Speaker 2: that seems kind of old and stale and unattainable in
19:26
Speaker 2: a way.
19:27
Speaker 1: Is there drama on Bachelor and Bachelor just who.
19:30
Speaker 2: They're going to choose and whether or not they made
19:31
Speaker 2: the right choice because that person really loves someone not
19:35
Speaker 2: really not really no, well yes.
19:39
Speaker 1: Disney also has made a decision to put two other
19:41
Speaker 1: stars from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives on an ABC show,
19:45
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars, Whitney Levitt Gene Affleck. Excuse me,
19:48
Speaker 1: jen Affleck are going to be competing there, so they
19:52
Speaker 1: have an absolute juggernaut, and so they're trying to find
19:55
Speaker 1: a way to use those women on Mormon Wives to
20:00
Speaker 1: bost other properties. And here they are two of their
20:03
Speaker 1: biggest shows of the past quarter century. Now haven't those
20:06
Speaker 1: shows been around twenty plus yeah, seasons.
20:08
Speaker 2: At this point, it's clear they are on a marketing
20:10
Speaker 2: move to try and boost ratings, because you know, it
20:13
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what you do if no one's watching.
20:15
Speaker 3: And that's kind of where they are right now.
20:16
Speaker 2: And to the point where Taylor Frankie Paul if you
20:19
Speaker 2: read some of her or listen to some of her interviews,
20:23
Speaker 2: she was even surprised. She didn't think she was going
20:26
Speaker 2: to be chosen. She thought, why would anyone want to
20:29
Speaker 2: date me? I mean, that sounds awful, but she was
20:30
Speaker 2: kind of saying, I get it, like, I'm not exactly ooh,
20:33
Speaker 2: let me bring her home to mom kind of material.
20:35
Speaker 2: So she was a little worried about hometown dates and
20:38
Speaker 2: what all that was going to be like.
20:39
Speaker 3: She just thought she was.
20:41
Speaker 2: Shut shocked that they chose her, and it seemed genuine
20:43
Speaker 2: when she said that, I mean, we.
20:44
Speaker 1: Have to be open to this. It's just and this
20:47
Speaker 1: is not an insult to her, But these suitors. You
20:50
Speaker 1: go to a guy and say, hey, there's a woman
20:54
Speaker 1: you might be interested in. You're going to ask Okay,
20:56
Speaker 1: tell me about her. She's adorable, she's this tall, dark hair.
21:00
Speaker 1: What does she do? She's on this reality show. She
21:03
Speaker 1: has cameras falling around all the time. Oh is that right?
21:06
Speaker 1: Oh she's divorced. She's got one divorce and she's got
21:09
Speaker 1: she got three kids, two with the husband and one
21:12
Speaker 1: with another guy. Okay, so I'll get one other thing.
21:16
Speaker 1: He has an arrest record. She was charged with the
21:18
Speaker 1: domestic violence incident. Most of the charges would drop. She
21:21
Speaker 1: just she just was played guilty to the aggravated assault charge.
21:23
Speaker 1: But other than that, great girl.
21:26
Speaker 3: I get it.
21:27
Speaker 2: And by the way, you said all that, now reverse it.
21:29
Speaker 2: What if the bachelor had that on his resume?
21:33
Speaker 1: What a domestic violence charge to baby Mama's.
21:36
Speaker 2: Yes, would he be would he be given the opportunity
21:39
Speaker 2: to be the bachelor?
21:41
Speaker 1: He would not? That would be an absolute uproar. We
21:46
Speaker 1: get that the standard is different. I'm not going to
21:48
Speaker 1: challenge it. Fine, but there is a reality here that
21:51
Speaker 1: I am not criticizing that. I am not actually saying
21:54
Speaker 1: she shouldn't be the Bachelorette. I just understand that this
21:58
Speaker 1: is going to be a different show. It's not the Bachelorettible,
22:01
Speaker 1: it's not finding love, is not getting down one knee
22:04
Speaker 1: at the end. Because also it's how long will they
22:06
Speaker 1: shoot the show over? Is it four months or six months?
22:08
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but it's months. Yes, it could be
22:11
Speaker 1: as low as three, but as many as six. Is
22:15
Speaker 1: that enough time? You're going to bring the man into
22:16
Speaker 1: the home with your with your children, with your kids,
22:19
Speaker 1: and I think in a normal dating scenario you wouldn't
22:21
Speaker 1: do that. I don't know how she's going to handle
22:23
Speaker 1: the kids on the show.
22:23
Speaker 2: She doesn't have her kids on the show. At least
22:26
Speaker 2: she doesn't have the older two, Okay, on the show.
22:29
Speaker 2: She does not put them on the show.
22:31
Speaker 3: We know of them.
22:31
Speaker 2: She puts them on our social media, but obviously that's
22:34
Speaker 2: an agreement she has with her ex husband. I'm guessing
22:37
Speaker 2: where she has chosen not to or is required not
22:41
Speaker 2: to have them on Mormon Wives. So I'm sure we
22:43
Speaker 2: won't see them on the Bachelor. But it's a reality
22:45
Speaker 2: of her life that whoever this guy is would have
22:50
Speaker 2: to accept, and she said that is the number one
22:53
Speaker 2: thing she says she's looking for in a man is
22:55
Speaker 2: how he treats other people. But right there is how
22:57
Speaker 2: he's going to treat her children. Obviously.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. It's just and a lot of guys
23:04
Speaker 1: are signing up. And I wanted to mention that the
23:06
Speaker 1: they're casting right now, but the casting call they've now
23:09
Speaker 1: put it in the hands of the same folks who
23:10
Speaker 1: do the Bravo shows. They've changed. They have brought in
23:13
Speaker 1: the people who cast. Yes, the real house who cast
23:17
Speaker 1: those shows are now casting.
23:19
Speaker 2: So it's casting instead of contestants. I mean that really
23:22
Speaker 2: is now probably a better way to put it. I'm
23:24
Speaker 2: just saying, because you're not asking for contestants who want
23:26
Speaker 2: to be her fiance or even her husband.
23:30
Speaker 3: They're looking for casting tomato tomata.
23:33
Speaker 1: Isn't that just something they say? But to your point there,
23:36
Speaker 1: I'm now looking down at the exact text of what
23:38
Speaker 1: they sent out as a casting call, and it does
23:41
Speaker 1: say now casting single men for the Bachelorette Season twenty
23:46
Speaker 1: two with Taylor Frankie Paul. If you or a friend
23:50
Speaker 1: are interested, email Wildside that blah blah blah, blah blah
23:53
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and be sure to mention wildside media
23:57
Speaker 1: preferred you. Yeah, so it's they're casting.
23:59
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess do they? Oh I don't know this.
24:01
Speaker 2: I don't remember because, honestly, to the credit of ABC,
24:04
Speaker 2: Disney all of that in their marketing team, I don't
24:06
Speaker 2: remember actually knowing whether or not. And we were at
24:11
Speaker 2: ABC's we were in Bachelor Nation and promoting this through
24:14
Speaker 2: Good Morning America for years and years and years. But
24:17
Speaker 2: I guess do they always put out who the bachelorette
24:20
Speaker 2: is and like dangle her and say hey, if you
24:22
Speaker 2: want to be cast on the.
24:24
Speaker 3: Show with her?
24:25
Speaker 2: Or do they do it all at the same time.
24:26
Speaker 2: Do they cast men who want to find love and
24:29
Speaker 2: cast the bacherette all the same time or is this
24:32
Speaker 2: different where they're now dangling literally the bachelorette.
24:35
Speaker 1: We should know this. I should know this because usually
24:40
Speaker 1: you know what's what? Aren't Usually we find out about
24:42
Speaker 1: the new bachelor or bachelorette right after the other show.
24:45
Speaker 1: It's the one who ends up in sealing.
24:47
Speaker 3: Oh, you're right.
24:47
Speaker 2: So the contestants or now cast members know who the
24:51
Speaker 2: bachelorette is ahead of time, so they can decide, Hm,
24:54
Speaker 2: that's somebody who I might want to date.
24:56
Speaker 1: So it's rare that they have a contestant that comes
24:58
Speaker 1: from outside Bachelor.
25:00
Speaker 3: That makes sense.
25:01
Speaker 1: I think Matt was from outside. He hadn't been on
25:03
Speaker 1: a preview.
25:04
Speaker 3: He's best friends with Tyler. Is it Tyler? What's his name? Matheson?
25:09
Speaker 1: Tyler?
25:10
Speaker 2: No, I'm getting messed up now, Cameron Tyler, Cameron Cameron
25:14
Speaker 2: Matheson and Tyler Cameron Cameron, matthes he's from the soaps.
25:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love him, He's great, love, we love him.
25:23
Speaker 3: Sorry I got those names confused, But.
25:26
Speaker 2: That's how Matt came in because he was on the
25:28
Speaker 2: show because he was best friends with the Bachelor.
25:30
Speaker 1: But it's rare to get someone from out. Yes, technically
25:33
Speaker 1: he was from but yet she is from completely outside.
25:35
Speaker 3: Wait, well but she's in. She's in the ABC family,
25:39
Speaker 3: the Hulu family.
25:40
Speaker 1: I think there's a great opportunity here. I do think
25:43
Speaker 1: it's great. I think she is great, a woman who's
25:45
Speaker 1: made some mistakes. You can have all kinds of feelings
25:47
Speaker 1: about her. She is a polarizing figure, but she is
25:51
Speaker 1: authentic and I think just from our impressions of her,
25:54
Speaker 1: which are just a couple of hours we got this
25:56
Speaker 1: being with her was a delight and authentic person who's
26:00
Speaker 1: is in the right place, who's made some mistakes, who
26:01
Speaker 1: can admit that, and I just I'm absolutely rooting for
26:05
Speaker 1: but I'm also rooting for what a lot of she represents.
26:08
Speaker 1: This is before me getting cynical, but what it represents
26:11
Speaker 1: to show that, yes, most people are out there trying
26:13
Speaker 1: to date with a divorce on the resume, with the
26:17
Speaker 1: kids at the house, juggling a career or whatever else.
26:20
Speaker 1: I am excited about what that can say.
26:23
Speaker 3: I agree with you.
26:24
Speaker 1: I am excited about it. And they're going for the
26:27
Speaker 1: ratings way up. Fine. I just hope it doesn't turn
26:29
Speaker 1: into a circus.
26:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, that's a really good point.
26:32
Speaker 2: I hope it really does show that so many of
26:35
Speaker 2: us are not we didn't get it right, we aren't perfect,
26:38
Speaker 2: and we're still looking for love and we're still worthy
26:42
Speaker 2: of love. And so I think that could be a
26:43
Speaker 2: cool I hope part of this season. And by the way,
26:48
Speaker 2: just in case, I want to let you guys know,
26:50
Speaker 2: if you just look back, I believe it'll be the
26:53
Speaker 2: previous episode from this one. We actually reposted our interview
26:58
Speaker 2: from exactly one year ago this week with Taylor Frankie Paul,
27:01
Speaker 2: before all the Bachelor announcement, before actually she even became
27:05
Speaker 2: the star that she is now. So if you want
27:06
Speaker 2: to hear for herself for yourself who she is and
27:10
Speaker 2: who she was a year ago before all of the
27:12
Speaker 2: fame really followed, encourage you to check that out so
27:16
Speaker 2: you kind of really get to see her and meet
27:18
Speaker 2: her the way we did. So thank you for listening
27:20
Speaker 2: to us.
27:20
Speaker 3: Everyone. I made me Roebuck alongside TJ. Holmes. Have a
27:23
Speaker 3: great day, everybody,