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- 0:29The None None.
- 1:41OK, Boyd, you want to tell us a little bit about yourself and
- 1:44the church and what we saw this evening?
- 1:47OK, I'm a member of the Church of Satan, and I'm a musician.
- 1:52I've written a few books, and what we did this evening was a
- 1:55ritual Anton was saying the other night.
- 1:58He's saying Satanism is coming out of the ritual chamber and
- 2:00into the mainstream. And I think that's what we're
- 2:02doing, trying to bring that message to a broader audience.
- 2:09Good evening, everybody. Glad to see everybody.
- 2:15My name is Lucifer, Leg of Warden and welcome to live with
- 2:19leg of Warden. Tonight's show is going to be
- 2:23covering a very interesting topic.
- 2:28I'm going to go ahead and introduce my Co host.
- 2:32It seems that we've been, we're doing a lot of shows together.
- 2:36And yeah, so everybody say hello to Brett Keane.
- 2:55Sorry, I'm just talking to my girly, and she's bringing me a
- 2:57cup of coffee to get going. Ah, So how is everybody here?
- 3:02Is everybody doing OK? Ah, we got black metaller in.
- 3:10All right, So tonight's topic we're going to be discussing
- 3:14national socialism in Satanism. Thank you, Brett.
- 3:23Would you like to kick things off?
- 3:27What would you like me to kick off?
- 3:29I don't know. I don't know well.
- 3:34Alright, with explaining to the audience what this is.
- 3:37OK, so yeah, that's actually a really good idea.
- 3:40But before we do that, let me just make it really clear to
- 3:44everybody. The Satanic Fulian Society,
- 3:47which is the organization which I run, and its subsidiary
- 3:51organization, the official called Cthulhu, does not promote
- 3:56violence. It does not promote hate.
- 3:59It does not promote anything of the sort.
- 4:04So we are, we are not a racist organization.
- 4:11A lot of people have tried to portray us as such because we
- 4:15use the term fool in our name, because we espouse the notion of
- 4:22Fulianism, and we will be going into what fool is a little bit
- 4:28later on. But one of the common
- 4:32misconceptions about, excuse me, about Satanism currently is that
- 4:41we are all left wing radicals that were crazy leftists.
- 4:47So I need to kind of correct my background here.
- 4:51People don't really necessarily need to be seeing my, my room,
- 4:56my place. So Brett, what what has been
- 5:03your experience with Satanists recently?
- 5:07I know you're still new to encountering us and talking with
- 5:12us from the outside perspective. Well, so far I have found that
- 5:20having conversations with theistic Satanists, the ones who
- 5:24actually believe in the supernatural magic and concept
- 5:28of some kind of higher power, it's been really respectful,
- 5:32friendly, and I feel I've made me some friends.
- 5:35However, as you know, we got a history of dealing with the
- 5:39atheistic denominations of Satanism, which they were very
- 5:43rude, crude and hostile and aggressive and not open minded
- 5:48to have a discussion make any compromises.
- 5:52But ever since we've been making our shows and basically proving
- 5:56every damn point that we put out there, they seem to like climbed
- 6:00under, like the toilet bowl, like a cockroach and.
- 6:05That's that's actually a pretty good analogy right there.
- 6:09And I'm going to tell people something right now.
- 6:14A lot of people get very butt hurt about what we do and what
- 6:24we've been saying, Especially when we start talking about
- 6:28Anton Lavey being theistic. When we start slamming on the
- 6:34Satanic Temple for their woke far leftist practices, They've
- 6:40really been putting out a very bad, wrong image to people.
- 6:47A while back I wrote an article for my book, The Satanic
- 6:53Testament, which you can buy on Amazon right now.
- 6:59And so yeah, you can get this book, and it was talking about
- 7:05the political ideology of most Satanists.
- 7:09And Brett, I'm pretty sure you can voucher for this.
- 7:14Most Satanists that you've been encountering recently have all
- 7:18been politically right leaning, am I correct?
- 7:22Yeah, every one of the theistic Satanists have met so far.
- 7:26They seem to share and agree with a lot of things.
- 7:29I said, say, and also believe in myself.
- 7:33And I believe that if a lot of Christians out there were
- 7:36actually to pay attention to listen, they would find that
- 7:38there's a lot of common ground as well.
- 7:40Now it's the difference between night and day if you talk to an
- 7:44atheistic one, because not only did they hijack the religion,
- 7:48but their liberal is all get out.
- 7:52Yeah, we have an STS member. He is our Florida Grotto master.
- 7:57He's about to join us here. This is He's called Ancestral
- 8:03Sickness Habit on Fireborn. Whatever you want to call him.
- 8:10Hey there. What's?
- 8:14Up brother. Hey, you might want to turn your
- 8:17mic up a little bit because sound a little bit garbled
- 8:19there. Hello.
- 8:21Yeah, we can hear you all. Right all.
- 8:25Right, so Abaddon Fireborn is our Florida Grotto master and
- 8:34just like me has a bit of a background with tonight's
- 8:37subject. Can you tell us a little bit
- 8:39about your personal background there, Abaddon?
- 8:46Walked my path for over what 36 years.
- 8:51Studied many angles between the two 18182 or 9 angles civilian
- 8:58Satanism. I've even had my own
- 9:03organization back in the day. Grew up in magical child.
- 9:10Anybody that knows about magical child ran by the Cos back in the
- 9:14late 90s, early 90s even before then?
- 9:18We're going to be talking about that here in a wee while and
- 9:25Babadon's always been very fun to remind me about Magical Child
- 9:29and how it went Wiccan. It was started off as Wiccan,
- 9:32wasn't it? It was.
- 9:34It was the Warlock Bookshop originally, then just the
- 9:36Warlock Shop, and eventually got completely changed over to the
- 9:40name Magical Child. Carmen Slater, I'm pretty scary.
- 9:47Always had a magical child. It was just in the beginning.
- 9:50It was more geared toward your towards your Wiccan because you
- 9:56had another store out there called Sticks and Stones, and
- 10:02there's a big wicking community. They even have a chamber in the
- 10:06back where the cloaks hang, but it's more wicking and stuff like
- 10:11that. But then Cos stepped in and
- 10:15geared it more towards the left Hand Path.
- 10:18Crowley and other subjects, other angles.
- 10:23I'm on 7. Yeah, yeah, you got a pillow
- 10:27grotto master giving you a shout out.
- 10:30Hey, what's up brother? All right.
- 10:36So can you tell us a little bit about your less savory past with
- 10:42tonight's subject? That would be National
- 10:46Socialism. What do you mean less savory
- 10:55past? Your experience in it less
- 10:59savory to the general public. I mean, obviously somebody who
- 11:03looks at you, they wouldn't expect you to be involved in
- 11:07that. They would make a very wrong
- 11:09assumption. Now you are physically looking.
- 11:15It's pretty safe to say most people would mistake you for
- 11:18being African American, but you're not.
- 11:20Am I correct? No.
- 11:23OK. Can you can you go ahead and if
- 11:27you're comfortable? I'm Native American, Native
- 11:31American and Sicilian. Native American and Sicilian and
- 11:38that your Native American heritage really plays a big part
- 11:42into National Socialism, am I correct?
- 11:46Yes, Sir. OK.
- 11:50Would it be OK if I asked what tribe you belong to?
- 11:54Choctaw. Choctaw they're native to
- 11:57Florida area. Am I correct or?
- 12:00Alabama, Mississippi. Alabama.
- 12:03Mississippi. OK, all right.
- 12:06I You've shown me some wonderful pictures of you at events for
- 12:12the tribal events in the community when you were younger,
- 12:17powwow dances and everything. And I have to say, some of the
- 12:20outfits were beautiful, I mean, just covered in feathers and
- 12:25just really awesome. Can can you tell me a little bit
- 12:29about how how it was to to do those events and what it was
- 12:36like to dance with your people? Oh, it's very spiritual, very
- 12:41connecting, especially when you have people that understand your
- 12:47angle, your study, the true tradition of the of our people,
- 12:54which is completely you want to put it left hand path.
- 13:00That's what makes, that's what makes up our tradition.
- 13:04You have all these natives that I would also get into scruffles
- 13:12with debates because they want to walk this godly path.
- 13:18They want to connect with the Bible and do all that stuff.
- 13:22And that's not, that's not how it goes if you want to go into
- 13:29the Bible. That's what killed our
- 13:30ancestors, and that's ancestral Satanism right there.
- 13:36That's what. Of course, tonight's subject is
- 13:41National Socialism. How big of a National Socialist
- 13:45movement would you say is within the Native American culture
- 13:48right now? Now, back in the 1930s, it was
- 13:55pretty big, 'cause you had the Legion of American Indian.
- 14:01And just to be sorry for interrupting you, just to be
- 14:05clear, when I say National Socialism, I am referring, of
- 14:08course, to the political system established by Adolf Hitler.
- 14:14Am I correct? Yes.
- 14:16OK, OK. The Legion of American Indians
- 14:20was a national socialistic organization back in, I think
- 14:241934, that that was our political structure and system
- 14:32'cause if you really get into the political structure and
- 14:35system of the Native American tradition, it's completely
- 14:40National Socialist cause. National Socialism is tribalism.
- 14:45It's straight tribalism. That's all national, that's all
- 14:50National Socialism is. But it's it's it's a
- 14:53nationalistic identity of complete tribalistic unification
- 14:58of a of of people. Would you say it is a negative
- 15:03system and would you say it's positive?
- 15:07It's completely positive. National is a completely
- 15:11positive system that can bring up a society.
- 15:15All right, so when when you hear about stuff like what the
- 15:20National Socialist German Workers Party was headed up by
- 15:23Adolf Hitler, the founder of National Socialism, and all the
- 15:27things that happened during World War 2, Nazi Germany and
- 15:32the European front, would you say that is a reflection of how
- 15:38the the system was originally intended to be?
- 15:43Or is that in your opinion, your personal opinion, a
- 15:47misrepresentation of what the system espouses?
- 15:56I think that it was completely necessary for the structure to
- 16:01do what it did for the train to take the direction that it did.
- 16:08The reflection of that direction that's put upon the people of
- 16:14today's society is completely negative and it's completely
- 16:19misdirected. OK, what I was saying is when
- 16:23you hear about like the Nazi concentration camps and
- 16:29Auschwitz, the situation at Auschwitz, the whole Holocaust
- 16:32thing, is that a normal situation for a National
- 16:36Socialist society or or was that a situation that was unique to
- 16:40World War 2? That wasn't a situation of
- 16:44uniqueness. That was a that was a 'cause
- 16:47that needed to be taken. He asked.
- 16:52Why? Why?
- 16:52Why would you say that? Because.
- 16:57The. Fury in the USS even warned
- 17:03these people to stop doing what they're doing to leave, and they
- 17:10didn't want to move. They did not want to obey.
- 17:16He did not want their ways in his country.
- 17:20OK, so really quickly, I'm sorry for interrupting you there.
- 17:25When you say he didn't want their ways, was he talking about
- 17:28the Jewish ways or their political ideology?
- 17:33Both their political ideology and their Zionistic beliefs
- 17:37because their Zionist beliefs and their political structure
- 17:41was completely destroying this country and taking his spiritual
- 17:48ideology. Your mic's going.
- 17:52Won't you have it on? Go ahead.
- 18:11OK, there you go. You wanted to take those
- 18:16spiritual. They wanted to take the
- 18:18spiritual structure out of his country.
- 18:24What was Germany? Like, what was Germany like
- 18:27before the National Socialist German Worker Party came into
- 18:30power? Depressing.
- 18:36They were. They were living on the streets.
- 18:38Am I correct? More than that, they couldn't.
- 18:41They couldn't even eat. The national spokesman's party
- 18:44is the party that restored the pride back to the country.
- 18:48And what people don't understand is he wanted to bring the people
- 18:55back to wanton. He wanted to bring the people
- 18:58back to the German the, the German traditions, the German
- 19:03the German belief. So let me make sure I got your
- 19:07perspective correct. When you say that it was a
- 19:10necessary step that needed to be taken in getting the Jewish
- 19:16community out of what they were doing, getting the Bolsheviks
- 19:22out, the marks out, because I'm not going to lie to people it,
- 19:25What am I correct in saying that it was Bolshevism and Marxism,
- 19:29that political system after World War One that had caused
- 19:33the downfall of the German people and they were literally
- 19:38dying in the street? Am I correct in that?
- 19:42Yes, Sir. All right.
- 19:44And so basically these people were, they had their backs up
- 19:48against the wall. It was they did something
- 19:50dramatic and very drastic or they died.
- 19:54Am I correct? May I ask for a suggestion on
- 19:59something real quick? Go ahead.
- 20:01If he's using a like a phone that's within the last couple
- 20:06years to be on the show, he may have a condenser on it that's
- 20:11already built in. What this means is your air
- 20:14conditioner. Any sound that goes may muffle
- 20:17him on. Accident.
- 20:19Gotcha. Yeah, I'm on a tablet.
- 20:27Gotcha. But all right.
- 20:30So that's all, that's all really interesting.
- 20:33Yeah, we can hear you OK there. That's that's really
- 20:37interesting. Is there anything else you can
- 20:41actually? How does National Socialism fit
- 20:45in with Satanism? I don't know if you saw the
- 20:47opening of the of the show today, but I played a clip from
- 20:54the 88O8 rally and it was a clip of Boyd Rice.
- 21:02Would you? Did you get to see that?
- 21:05No, but I'm very familiar with Bull Rice.
- 21:08OK, let me go ahead and play that again so you can go ahead
- 21:11and see it. If if for people who are not
- 21:15used to what Satanism is about, it might be a little bit jarring
- 21:23of a clip. Because if you look in the
- 21:24background, you see Boyd Rice sitting in front of something
- 21:27very unique. So it's only about a 32nd clip.
- 21:38OK, Boyd, you want to tell us a little bit about yourself and
- 21:41the church and what we saw this evening?
- 21:44OK, I'm a member of the Church of Satan and I'm a musician.
- 21:49I've written a few books, and what we did this evening was a
- 21:52ritual Anton was saying the other night.
- 21:54He's saying Satanism is coming out of the ritual chamber and
- 21:57into the mainstream. And I think that's what we're
- 21:59doing, trying to bring that message to a a broader audience.
- 22:08When you see that set up, when you see that event, I I know
- 22:11you're very familiar with that event.
- 22:16You see the swastika in the background, draped over the
- 22:18altar and whatnot. And I know you've been involved
- 22:22with numerous organizations ONAW, SA352, as well as Lillian
- 22:29Society and a lot of these organizations do promote of some
- 22:35level of National Socialism. Is that sort of thing normal?
- 22:41Yes. OK, so So what we're seeing
- 22:46there in a lot of people's ritual chambers that that
- 22:50especially back then up until recently, that sort of thing
- 22:54would have been a very normal sight.
- 22:58OK, you've you've been around a lot longer than me.
- 23:02I know you're older than me, sorry, I I'm not bossing on you
- 23:07there. But, you know, so you've been
- 23:09involved in the scene a lot longer than me.
- 23:12Can you give me a little bit of background about the
- 23:16involvement, the intermixing between National Socialism and
- 23:20Satanism, please? There's a certain ceremony that
- 23:28comes out of the wheaty Wellsburg Castle, Germany, that
- 23:34the s s conducted around a black sun that was etched into the
- 23:43floor with a flyer pit in the middle.
- 23:47It's called the law of the trapezoid.
- 23:50The token pop is the skull that sits on your altar, same as mine
- 23:56in the background. This ceremony is what connects
- 24:01our screen. It's it's also the ceremony that
- 24:09people tend to forget that formulated the curriculum of the
- 24:14original Church of Sage along with two other ceremonies that
- 24:19that. Formula.
- 24:20The law of the trapezoid, I believe, is actually in Anton
- 24:24Lavey's Satanic Rituals book. As well as there's another one.
- 24:32And I know you're a big fan of this one, Dialectian Vostbiel.
- 24:38That's the law of a trapezoid. All right.
- 24:40Can you explain this ritual to us?
- 24:43I know it's not a very good there is a few people who filmed
- 24:47it already on YouTube, but it's not very common like film
- 24:50ritual, and I don't think people really understand it.
- 24:53Can you explain what is the purpose of this ritual?
- 24:58It's an electrical pulse ritual. It's to connect you to the
- 25:04electrical field that we are in every day.
- 25:08But don't draw them in because people are dumbed down by other
- 25:16angles. They're blinded by the idiot
- 25:19God, so they ignore these pulses to We just ignore these pulses
- 25:27so they don't transcend like our ancestors did back in the past.
- 25:34How does this ritual? Work through, getting through,
- 25:39going through the decompression chamber, the law of the
- 25:42trapezoids, angles, traveling through the token path into the
- 25:47spiritual enlightenment you have.
- 25:50We have strobe lights and Tesla coils, and if you can't get your
- 25:57hand on the Tesla coil, you can also use an eye of the storm,
- 26:01which is the ball that has the little Tesla coil.
- 26:04It's called Tesla coil on the side of it.
- 26:07Now, I assume that you use a Tesla coil or other sort of
- 26:12similar electrical scientific device like that to to help
- 26:18control the ionization in the atmosphere of the chamber.
- 26:23Yes Sir. It's to harness the electrical,
- 26:27like you said, the electric the. Ionization.
- 26:31Yeah. It it what?
- 26:33What sort of effect can that have on the ritual it?
- 26:37Manipulates the force the the the energy fields around you.
- 26:45And of course you sit inside the trapezoid, if I'm correct, and
- 26:48it's like a metal trapezoid that works almost like a Faraday
- 26:51cage. The trapezoid.
- 26:54You don't have to slit inside of a trapezoid.
- 26:56If you can make one, awesome. But if not, you can always have
- 27:05your trapezoid on your altar. And use it like a focal point.
- 27:10Yes, Sir. Gotcha, gotcha.
- 27:13So the trapezoid, it's a very unique, it's a very unique
- 27:20pattern. Of course here in STSI, see
- 27:23you're wearing our STS Trap bath medallion.
- 27:26We have the trapezoid of course in people can.
- 27:30That's sort of not what I meant to do, but we have the trapezoid
- 27:37within STS. It is one of our sigils and we
- 27:43can see on screen like the STS trap.
- 27:47Can you explain for people what the purpose and the symbology
- 27:54behind this sigil is behind the the trapezoid sigil?
- 27:58Can you and can you go ahead and explain that to people?
- 28:04The chop back is the seats here are the commands to look with
- 28:08obscured angles. You're always looking, and it's
- 28:11always going to draw your eye. A circle, a circular angle,
- 28:16well, angle it's not. An angle circular doesn't really
- 28:19draw your eye as the CDL would. And the Baphomet.
- 28:25That's just the representation of our path.
- 28:30And depending if you use the deities for the angles of the
- 28:36trapezoid, any of the four deities that you choose to call
- 28:43upon, you can have them as your focal points.
- 28:48Gotcha, gotcha. Brett, is there, you've been
- 28:55quiet all this time. Is there any questions you'd
- 28:57like to ask? Well, I've just been listening
- 29:00you guys and also I've been looking up some of the different
- 29:03words and constructs you guys are talking about to get a
- 29:06better understanding. Yeah, just to let people know,
- 29:13Brett is not a Satanist. He is a recent friend of ours
- 29:19who has been, who has been doing a lot of live streams with me.
- 29:30He's definitely a Christian, but he has a very open mind about
- 29:37things. So we are getting a question
- 29:41from Brandon Lashbrooke. You ever read Germany must
- 29:46Perish? A Jewish communist had an open
- 29:50plan to sterilize and Gen. and genocide Germans around World
- 29:55War One. Abaddon your your comment on
- 30:01this. That's a new one.
- 30:05I would like to read that. Yeah, I I've, I've never seen
- 30:11that, Brandon. Thank you for bringing that to
- 30:13our attention. But it does sound a lot like
- 30:15what was going on in Germany after World War One.
- 30:19Germany was, if I'm if I'm remembering correctly, they were
- 30:25vilified as just like in World War 2.
- 30:29They were vilified as being the ultimate aggressors and they
- 30:32were punished for the events of World War One.
- 30:37Correct me if I'm wrong guys. I don't know, but you were
- 30:43saying earlier if I had any questions, I've actually come up
- 30:46with a couple of them. What inspired you to get into
- 30:50this ideology? Angle.
- 30:58It's an angle of study that's upon our path.
- 31:02I think what he's trying to ask is, before you were a Satanist,
- 31:07before you got on this path. What inspired?
- 31:09What led you to this path? I think that might be a better
- 31:15way to put it. We are getting a question from
- 31:18Cole Patrick. Now, is this a form of Germanic
- 31:22occultism that is specific individual in that this specific
- 31:27individual is practicing? No, Cole, this is we're actually
- 31:32talking about active Satanism. This is actually part of
- 31:37Satanism as it was intended to be, and that's what this whole
- 31:43show is about. It's talking about House.
- 31:46National Socialism has been part of Satanism for a great many
- 31:50number of years. Since day one.
- 31:56So. Even Lovay knows that since day
- 31:59one. So the the question was to you,
- 32:08Abaddon, what led you to this path?
- 32:11Before you were a Satanist, before you picked up the Satanic
- 32:14Bible or anything? What?
- 32:15What was the what was the reason that motivated you into taking
- 32:21on the mantle of Satanist ancestral connection?
- 32:28OK, so ancestral connection, where were you when you first
- 32:36had your first encounter with Satanism and it actually piqued
- 32:39your interest? Out of powwow.
- 32:42You're out of powwow. With my ancestors.
- 32:47With your ancestors, can you? So did your ancestor speak to
- 32:52you? All the time, my elders.
- 32:58OK. Can you?
- 33:01I'm actually really curious. Can you tell us about this
- 33:05event? Before the Bible, you had a
- 33:17tradition and you still have a tradition.
- 33:22You have culture, You have gods and goddesses.
- 33:26You have rituals and ceremonies where the.
- 33:34Sorry about that. I had a phone call coming in.
- 33:38Very good. Whether you want to call Satan,
- 33:41Satan or Coyote or Set or by any other name, our ancestors were
- 33:54demonized in the Bible. I don't care what Bible you go
- 34:01into, from the book of Genesis to the Book of Revelations, it
- 34:05says it in there. If you believe in any other
- 34:09deity besides myself, you're going to burn in a lake of fire.
- 34:15Their jobs when they came to our land was to destroy our people
- 34:20and to demonize our gods and goddesses to make them as
- 34:25devils, soul devils. They shall be because they are
- 34:29not of the Holy Trinity. Whatever is not of the Holy
- 34:33Trinity is of the left hand. Path is of a is of a crooked
- 34:36understanding to the mundane's eyes.
- 34:40So no matter what culture you are, from Native American to
- 34:43Germanic to Egyptian to whatever you believe in your old gods,
- 34:50that's what makes up Satanism. Satanism was not made-up by I'm.
- 34:56Going to quickly click off here, Brett, can you handle, can you 2
- 35:01hold down the court? I'm going to be giving our other
- 35:04guests that's supposed to be coming on a quick call.
- 35:08OK, no problem. All right.
- 35:10I will be right back. Ancestral, are you able to hear
- 35:15me clearly on the mic? Yes, Sir.
- 35:18What you're saying actually makes a lot of sense to me from
- 35:22what Lucifer was talking to me about in a prior show.
- 35:26He said that an exorcism or possession can happen not just
- 35:30because of a demon, but it could be some kind of spirit.
- 35:35It can be something of like animal or nature and all this.
- 35:41Did you believe in the tribe that you're a part of, that
- 35:44there were spirit animals or beings That, and this is how you
- 35:48were able to speak to your ancestors?
- 35:51Yes, but. Many people have lost those
- 35:58connections through the religious turmoil that that
- 36:10reigned over this country and many others.
- 36:14These are traditional ways. That's what makes up our way.
- 36:22People need to take our concept, our ways and our traditions and
- 36:27angles outside of the Bible. Cause the Bible didn't make us
- 36:31up. The Bible Just made-up terms to
- 36:36scapegoat us, bringing that goat out into the desert and cutting
- 36:41his throat to clear your sins. Have you done like Mr. Lucifer?
- 36:50Because it sounds like you have a lot of knowledge and
- 36:53information about the past. Have you?
- 36:55Have you also felt the need to write down some of the old
- 37:00traditions in a book so people you know be able to go back to
- 37:04it? Yeah, there's old ceremonies and
- 37:12writes that I do write down, but most there's stuff I write down
- 37:21and stuff I don't. That's where a Book of Shadows
- 37:23comes in. Yeah, most of us do tend to
- 37:28write, keep some sort of spell book that we call a Book of
- 37:32Shadows, a Grimoire or whatnot, and but we don't always publish
- 37:37them. So a lot of these grimoires,
- 37:39they're personal. They're like a journal, like a
- 37:42diary, and where we will do a ritual, which could be more like
- 37:49an experiment, and then we jot down like a scientist, the
- 37:53results that occurred. And yeah.
- 37:58And so yeah. It's just a shame that all the
- 38:03ancient ways and the lore and the information behind it, a lot
- 38:08of it obviously has been scattered or completely, you
- 38:11know, deleted from existence. And anybody that's got any
- 38:15knowledge or information, I would encourage them to write it
- 38:18down, you know, for future generations.
- 38:25So yeah, that that's a big tradition.
- 38:28That was one of the reasons why, you know many for many years
- 38:34occultists wouldn't write anything down, especially during
- 38:38the burning times because our grimoires would be used against
- 38:43us in court trials to send us to the stake to be burned alive.
- 38:50You know, I, I, I, I'm putting this one up from 10 Terrance
- 38:53role on the screen because I think it it comes up because we
- 38:57were mentioning last night with Kent Hoden that it's not just
- 39:05demons that possess people. And you know, obviously most
- 39:10Christians are going to look at us and be like, wait, there's
- 39:12other things that can possess people.
- 39:13And then I'll often say angels can possess people as well.
- 39:18And a lot of people forget that it is actually there is
- 39:22precedence for us within Christianity.
- 39:25And parents brings that up right there.
- 39:28Thank you as parents. It is shocking that there's a
- 39:32lot of Christians out there who do say what, because there is a
- 39:36lot of stuff in a lot of ancient religions, including Judaism,
- 39:41where it actually says the spirits took over animals and
- 39:44actually began communicating. Yeah, Brandon's asking question
- 39:52did, Same did. Oh, I don't think he's asking
- 39:55questions. He's just making a statement.
- 40:02So go ahead. You do?
- 40:09Well, I was actually. I brought up to him about what
- 40:12you were talking about in our prior short show.
- 40:16We were talking about spirits and animal spirits and nature
- 40:19and all this. And I was asking him, is that
- 40:22one of the ways he went about being able to speak to
- 40:24ancestors? Do you both believe in a form of
- 40:28reincarnation? I'll let Abaddon go first, no.
- 40:41If you our insert reincarnation, that means that you come back
- 40:46here. Our goal is to travel beyond the
- 40:52void. We have Kufian Productions
- 40:56coming in. This is our other guest and we
- 41:00will be speaking to him in just a minute.
- 41:06Kufian. Hey there.
- 41:08How's it going, brother? All right.
- 41:11How are you? We're doing all right.
- 41:13We've been waiting on you. I'll introduce you in just a
- 41:16second. Let's let Ancestral finish up
- 41:18what he was saying. It's OK.
- 41:24Mind if I throw one more small question out there.
- 41:27When the spirits are are roaming or speaking to the living, do
- 41:31they have a time limit on how long they can stay in the
- 41:35physical plane to speak or do they go somewhere?
- 41:40No, there's no time limit. Those portals are always open.
- 41:46Those there's people that lost connection to those portals,
- 41:50they've lost complete connection.
- 41:52So they'll never experience those portals until you get into
- 41:55your decompression chambers. Once you get into your
- 41:59decompression chambers and open that, then then you pull them to
- 42:04you and they recognize, 'cause there's a light that goes off or
- 42:08blue light that they see. Without that, they keep passing
- 42:14you by. They don't ever leave.
- 42:17But as in coming back here, no, we keep going forward.
- 42:21We keep transcending. There's no way there's no coming
- 42:25back here, 'cause that's a Demi Goric trap.
- 42:28That's what the mundane wants you.
- 42:29They want you to keep coming back to this plateau.
- 42:33It's a punishment, A Zionistic punishment.
- 42:38I'd like to now introduce Keithy and Productions.
- 42:43Am I OK to say your actual name there?
- 42:45Yes, you. Can OK, ladies and gentlemen,
- 42:50tonight's show is about National Socialism and Satanism.
- 42:53And while ancestral, Satanist and myself have very strong ties
- 42:59and experience with National Socialism.
- 43:02The man below my image, Cooking Productions, probably has some
- 43:06of the best experience first hand in the field of National
- 43:11Socialism. He has been branded, probably in
- 43:15my experience with you, miscorrect, incorrectly branded
- 43:20the most violent Nazi in America.
- 43:26This is Jake Klasky and Jake. Can you please tell us a little
- 43:32bit about yourself? Yeah.
- 43:37So you're going to need to speak up a little bit.
- 43:39All right. Can you hear me now?
- 43:41Yeah, I can hear you. It's just you sound really
- 43:43quiet. OK.
- 43:49He could go into his settings and turn up his microphone that
- 43:54way, if that's the issue all. Right.
- 43:57It's it's just it's these headphones.
- 43:59Here it let's go like this. OK.
- 44:03Can you hear me better? Oh, much better.
- 44:07All right. Yeah, it's it's those
- 44:09headphones. They they they quiet everything
- 44:10down. So a little bit about myself.
- 44:13So I was involved with the national social skinheads when I
- 44:16was a kid, a teenager, youth Skinhead.
- 44:21I was involved with the Airing Nations Congress 2002, where I
- 44:27spoke. That was the first time I spoke
- 44:28in front of a crowd and I spoke on behalf of political
- 44:31prisoners. I was a member of Volks Front.
- 44:34I was their prisoner affairs department, the head.
- 44:37And then later I was involved with the American Front.
- 44:41But I was friends with Jeff Scoop of the National Socialist
- 44:47Movement. I met him at that Internations
- 44:50World Congress 2002 in Idaho. I ended up going to federal
- 44:59prison Well state prison for a hate crime in Florida and then
- 45:04couple years later federal or or hitting a Jewish synagogue with
- 45:09swastika X rocks through the windows.
- 45:11I only got 18 months for that but I got 11 years for a gun and
- 45:16obstruction of justice. Solicitation of violence because
- 45:20and solicitation of bomb threat to obstruct the federal grand
- 45:22jury because my best friend had wore, wore a wire on me and set
- 45:28me up on on the solicitation, 3 counts of solicitation of murder
- 45:31charges. I was looking at 185 years on
- 45:34that and I was I was able to beat those down to solicitation
- 45:38of physical force and plead out. So I got 11 years.
- 45:41I did a full 11 years. Well, 10 years, nine months and
- 45:44so. You you pretty much maxed out
- 45:46your sentence. Yeah, I maxed out.
- 45:49Yeah, I I I maxed out because I was putting in that work being
- 45:52being a when. You got out of prison.
- 45:55You didn't have to go on probation or anything.
- 45:57You maxed out everything and you're pretty much oh.
- 46:02No, I when I got out I had three years paper still left and I I
- 46:06turned that into seven because I ended up stabbing a dude that
- 46:11attacked my wife while she was holding the two year old.
- 46:13I went over to his house to confront him.
- 46:15He confronted he, he came out of the house and attacked me on the
- 46:18streets. I stabbed him and well, he lied
- 46:22and said I stabbed him on his property, but the blood trail
- 46:25said otherwise. So how much?
- 46:28How much? OK, so I'm going to move away
- 46:30from the criminal background. I think we established your
- 46:33criminal background. How much of that was influenced
- 46:38by, either directly or indirectly by the Skinhead
- 46:44movements or other National Socialist involved movements?
- 46:49Well my that victim was a a Skinhead and we had a falling
- 46:53out and he was an he was a member of American front at that
- 46:57and I I had left the organization wanting to just
- 47:02have be with my family. I just got married.
- 47:06We so we basically. When that happened, you were
- 47:09out. You were done.
- 47:10You wanted nothing more to do with it.
- 47:12You had found a new path and you were starting to work on, yeah,
- 47:16a more peaceful. I kind of like how Jeff Scoop
- 47:18left. Yeah, not kind of like, well
- 47:23maybe a little bit, yeah. Although he's not working for
- 47:28one of those anti hate groups now.
- 47:29OK, that's what I saw. But As for me, I just wanted to
- 47:34live my life and do what the 14 words truly was, which was
- 47:39family. And some of the skinheads
- 47:42didn't, didn't like that because I was supposed to be one of the
- 47:45boot boys that was partying and having a good time with them and
- 47:48all that other stuff. But my family had a store called
- 47:52Wolf Clan Armory Prepper store, sold a lot of knives.
- 47:55We had all kinds of people come in that was right wingers and
- 47:59stuff and it was, it was quite the little headquarters for for
- 48:05things. And that's what Antifa put out
- 48:07articles about it saying that it was.
- 48:08I remember reading those. Yeah, I remember when you, when
- 48:14you first reached out, we have another brother with us as well.
- 48:20Given a oh, you were actually Brandon, were you actually in
- 48:26Charlottesville with NSM? I want to say a quick thank you
- 48:33to Brandon for being brave enough to come forward and tell
- 48:37us this. He didn't have to.
- 48:42Yeah, Charlottesville. My friend Solon Dictus was
- 48:47there. Wow.
- 48:51He's an attorney. I actually have one of the
- 48:54flags. It's one of Charlottesville.
- 48:55I was also a member of NSM for a while.
- 48:59I was with NSM initially for a short time underneath Jeff
- 49:04Scoop, but then I re upped it after Burt Kaluzi took it over.
- 49:10So yeah, that's really interesting.
- 49:13Brandon, if you want to jump in, you're more than welcome to.
- 49:19You mind if I ask a question? Go ahead.
- 49:22I've from research I've done on groups and gangs, sometimes it's
- 49:27extremely difficult for someone to leave a group once they've
- 49:30been basically in it for a while.
- 49:33Did you find that it was dangerous whenever you made the
- 49:36decision to get out of it? Well that's what happened.
- 49:43That's they the they attacked. A member had attacked my wife
- 49:49while she was holding the two year old he was supposed to get
- 49:51me that night I got him. So that was that's a dangerous
- 49:56part of it. They I proved to them I was a
- 49:59little more dangerous than than they were and they haven't
- 50:02screwed with me since, although I I did time for that.
- 50:06But now I ran out into probation.
- 50:09I'm sorry for interrupting there, Jake.
- 50:12Brandon, if you want to go over to my channel on YouTube and if
- 50:17you look in the comment section, the the commentary going on next
- 50:24to it, you will find a link that you can join us through there.
- 50:30Yes, you can join us through the link Brett just put in do.
- 50:36You live in the Do you live in the same area and is there a
- 50:40concern of retaliation? No, I'm not concerned about any
- 50:45retaliation or anything. Everyone I who's gotten a hold
- 50:49of me and ran into me and comes, come see me.
- 50:53Everything's cool, you know? I proved I proved what I had to
- 50:56do, and I did it. And I stuck up for what was the
- 51:01true 14 words of family. My my woman holding a kid and
- 51:06she fell down when he they attacked her and and hit hit the
- 51:11dirt. Now can can you recite the 14
- 51:16words for everybody please there, Jake?
- 51:20Yeah, 14 right there. We must secure the existence of
- 51:25our people in the future for white children.
- 51:27And then there's also because the beauty of the white armed
- 51:30woman must not perish from the earth.
- 51:34OK. All right.
- 51:37Yeah, that that was a. When did those words first get
- 51:40written? By David Lane.
- 51:43He was a member of the Order who I was actually incarcerated with
- 51:46in federal prison. I was in there with a few of
- 51:51Randy Evans of the Order Brutish Wagon.
- 51:55I was in there with David Lane and I might piss a lot of people
- 52:00off about this but David Lane was a was not right in the head.
- 52:05He he he lost his mind and here he was a hero of our folk and he
- 52:12he was into little girls. He he believed that once a girl
- 52:16starts bleeding, start breeding and the Nazi lowriders were
- 52:20going to kill him in prison because that and then the
- 52:23skinheads that was. No, that was.
- 52:25That's a very old school mentality, going back to as
- 52:29recently as the early 1900s, because medical abilities back
- 52:36then were not as good. So young, you know, it was OK to
- 52:40marry and have a girl get married as young as in some
- 52:47instances as young as 12 or 14, just so that they could be
- 52:52childbearing. Mind if I ask her.
- 52:56Go ahead, you first. Well, yeah, he believed as soon
- 53:02as they bled, they'll start breeding with him.
- 53:05And my daughter started hers at 8 years old, so it was pretty
- 53:10upsetting. But he, David Lane, was a
- 53:18pervert. Honestly, he was a pervert who
- 53:24was a folk hero for the folk that we were all let down by and
- 53:31he wrote the. 14th It's misdirected.
- 53:33And so this. Is the first time.
- 53:38Yeah, yeah. And this is probably the first
- 53:42time anyone's ever heard that. Dave Blaine is a problem.
- 53:46Well my my question for you guys is this.
- 53:49I understand that a lot of ideas and ideologies have changed and
- 53:54and some things, but right now there's many people in America
- 53:59who believe in something called the replacement theory, where
- 54:03they believe that Caucasians are wanting to, they're basically
- 54:06wanting to minoritize and get rid of whites.
- 54:10Do you agree with that? Do you feel like there's
- 54:13actually a political agenda to do that?
- 54:16Yeah, I believe there's a political plan for a lot of
- 54:19things such as the the European Kalergy plan where they're being
- 54:25replaced by the migrants coming in from Africa.
- 54:29And I'm and if you look at, if you look at the open border
- 54:34thing that Biden's doing and yeah that's part of the
- 54:37replacement. Yeah, that's that's pretty crazy
- 54:45there. So how would you say did
- 54:49Satanism? Would you say Satanism played
- 54:52any sort of influence into you choosing to leave the national
- 54:59socialist Skinhead movements? Yes, I wanted to pursue my my
- 55:05religion more. I wanted to pursue, pursue the
- 55:08knowledge that came from it and stuff.
- 55:10Kids, I was what you would call an Esoteric Hitlerite.
- 55:14I was in the Esoteric Hitlerism, which in itself is Luciferian
- 55:19based. And that led me open me up to
- 55:24come and come out of the open to say I'm a Satanist and that's
- 55:30what I wanted to do. I wanted wanted to pursue my
- 55:32religion and and and really get to cause.
- 55:36Like Anton Levay said, it takes takes study.
- 55:40And so I wanted to study. And so Satanism, yeah, yeah.
- 55:50Esoteric Hitlerism is where we believed that Hitler was an
- 55:55avatar of Krishna. And if and if you look into a
- 56:00little more avatar's Savitri Debbie wrote a book, The
- 56:05Lightning in the Sun and said that Hitler was the man against
- 56:08time and. Sort of like the Antichrist.
- 56:14Yes, sort of like the Antichrist, but with more
- 56:18nobility behind when when it comes to reading about it, yeah.
- 56:23Yeah, there's a lot of different things that we're discussing
- 56:29tonight when it comes to groups like I'd like to hear from both
- 56:35of you guys. And really quickly I'm going to
- 56:39repeat to Brandon. If you want to jump in, go on
- 56:42over to YouTube and you can find actually, I wonder, yeah, you
- 56:49can find the link. Brett is throwing up the link
- 56:55right now, but it's only showing up Brett that's only showing up
- 56:59in for YouTube. So Brandon can't see that he's
- 57:04on Facebook? Is there any way for you to open
- 57:08up the Facebook page and post? That's what I'm going to try to
- 57:12do. I'm going to go over to our live
- 57:15stream on YouTube. I do want to tell Mister Kathy
- 57:22and as well as Ancestral, I appreciate you guys being
- 57:24patient with me and answering my questions.
- 57:29All right. So I'm going to go ahead and we
- 57:35are going to grab this and copy, all right.
- 57:42So now he says he can't come on till 910 PMI don't know where
- 57:55he's at in in America right now. So I'm going to throw the link
- 58:02out there. That should take you to our
- 58:14broadcast. I hope that works.
- 58:20OK. He's in Illinois, so I hope that
- 58:25I hope this works it that's where I was taking me.
- 58:33But I don't even know where to grab the link in our normal
- 58:36little thing right here. Oh, you mean the link for the
- 58:42inside of this? Yeah, for people to come in two.
- 58:46Ways to do it, you can just go to the top, copy that link or go
- 58:50down the settings and hit guest copy.
- 58:55Go down OK Settings. It's easier just to go up top
- 59:00and copy the Earl the stream yard with all the garbage after
- 59:04it, all right? Let's see here.
- 59:23Well, I guess while you're doing that, I wouldn't mind asking a
- 59:25question you had mentioned like a form of Antichrist.
- 59:30Do you believe that there's many forms that will come or already
- 59:33have been, or just the one as Hitler?
- 59:37Oh. Yeah, and there's yeah, yeah.
- 59:44And there's one to come that that Hitler spoke about.
- 59:49There's another to come. Go ahead, kind of.
- 59:55Like one of the top fees? Whoever, whoever stands against
- 1:00:04the mundane is an Antichrist. Yeah.
- 1:00:10Generally our understanding of the Antichrist is that we are
- 1:00:14all one form of the Antichrist. So when we look at the sigil of
- 1:00:20the trap bath, I'll go ahead and I'll throw that up.
- 1:00:26This is the STS sigil of the trap bath that it has many
- 1:00:31representations. The trapezoid with the inverted
- 1:00:34pentagram and the open bottom is like the gateway to enter Satan,
- 1:00:40which that Satanist enters Satan through The Baphomet represents
- 1:00:46Satanism itself with no specific references, whereas the 666
- 1:00:53actually represents the individual Satanist as the
- 1:00:57embodiment, the physical embodiment of the Antichrist,
- 1:01:02the living Antichrist. So literally we view ourselves
- 1:01:06as the physical embodiment of the Antichrist.
- 1:01:11Well, Mr. Lucifer, you are probably just as aware as I am
- 1:01:15of this. There's going to be some
- 1:01:16religious people who have their own interpretation of that.
- 1:01:20Would you be willing to describe what you mean by it your your
- 1:01:24representation? Yeah.
- 1:01:28Actually give me one quick second.
- 1:01:30I'll be right back. Sure.
- 1:01:39What's up, Jake? Doing good, man.
- 1:01:42How are you? I'm good, brother.
- 1:01:45Nice to see you on the show. Yeah, I'm glad to be here.
- 1:01:50Happy to be here. Sorry I'm late.
- 1:01:52I my phone didn't ring, so at least I didn't hear it ring when
- 1:01:57I got got the call, but yeah. So, all right, when somebody
- 1:02:05buys a trap bath medallion, sort of like what Abaddon is wearing
- 1:02:08right now, we send them a little pamphlet like this.
- 1:02:13This one's gotten wet. It's been sitting on my
- 1:02:16refrigerator, but on the inside it actually tells you a little
- 1:02:20bit about the sigil itself. So the trap bath, you can
- 1:02:23actually see it in the corner. There it is, says the
- 1:02:28trapezoidal Bapomet trap bath of the STS is a symbol that pays
- 1:02:32homage to Anton Lavey and the original order of the trapezoid.
- 1:02:37The Baphomet in the center is to represent Satanism as a whole
- 1:02:41and not any single element. The number 666, fashioned around
- 1:02:47the centralized Baphomet, represents the individual
- 1:02:50Satanist as a child of Satan and the embodiment of the
- 1:02:54Antichrist. The classical trapezoid with the
- 1:02:57open pentagram represents the gate by which the Satanist
- 1:03:01enters into wisdom of the Black flame.
- 1:03:05So what the black flame is for those people who don't know, is
- 1:03:12that is the fire of inspiration that we believe in.
- 1:03:15That is the literally the spark of enlightenment.
- 1:03:22That when when Eve ate of the apple, that's what she got, was
- 1:03:31that black flame, that spark of wisdom and enlightenment, and
- 1:03:38she was set free in that moment. Mind you, most Satanists do not
- 1:03:43adhere that Eve was Adam's first wife.
- 1:03:46We believe that there was an older, an original wife to Adam
- 1:03:51who is much more powerful and that would have been Lilith.
- 1:03:57So as far as the Antichrist goes, I mean, you guys are
- 1:04:01stating that there's going to be another one coming, and I've
- 1:04:04heard a lot of people who are convinced of this.
- 1:04:07What is it hoping to accomplish? What's the goal?
- 1:04:14I'm going to let Ancestral start this one off and then we'll move
- 1:04:18to Jake and then I'll give my interpretation of it.
- 1:04:26The goal is to free people to remove the dirt from the flame
- 1:04:31that the biblical poison has inflicted upon Society of this
- 1:04:39aonic experience. The rise of the Antichrist is a
- 1:04:49very positive thing because it leaves your soul.
- 1:04:54All your souls are polluted. They're all your flame.
- 1:04:59Your black flame has dirt kicked on it, and the dirt is of the
- 1:05:05Holy Trinity. It's of the Abrahamic religion.
- 1:05:10No matter if it's the Judeo, the, the Islamic from the, from
- 1:05:16the OR the Christian, you're all dirty.
- 1:05:22Your tribes are a poisonous understanding, so your flame is
- 1:05:28going to be extinguished. Our goal is to reignite your
- 1:05:34flame and to break the mundane chains that your poisonous
- 1:05:39tribes have inflicted upon our people since you came over here
- 1:05:44on your ships. That's the goal of the
- 1:05:48Antichrist that walks this plane, and we'll walk this plane
- 1:05:53forever more. Mr. Lucifer, you're muted.
- 1:06:10Sorry about that, Jake. Go ahead.
- 1:06:13Yeah, and yeah, I believe exactly what you're saying.
- 1:06:17The destruction of the Abrahamic religions, Mundane.
- 1:06:22Everything you said right on point with my own studies and
- 1:06:27beliefs of an Antichrist and in Esoteric Hitlerism, like I
- 1:06:36mentioned, it was based upon Luciferianism and with it Adolf
- 1:06:43Hitler gave a prophecy for them to fight for the next one that's
- 1:06:49coming. I don't, I can't recall the
- 1:06:52specific words. It's just a short little
- 1:06:54sentence. But he he talked about it and
- 1:06:57that's hopefully going to happen in my lifetime, our lifetime.
- 1:07:04Thanks, Jake. On a personal note, I hope that
- 1:07:08I ain't long dead by that time that happens.
- 1:07:11I'm having too much fun in this life.
- 1:07:14You can call me a little bit of an old school levay and I don't
- 1:07:17want to leave the party yet, But me personally, the way that I
- 1:07:25look at it is that the ultimate end to Antichrist is an
- 1:07:32individual who will come forth and like the others have said,
- 1:07:38reignite the black flame. The ultimate end goal of
- 1:07:41Satanism is not so much to wipe out existence, but to allow
- 1:07:49humanity to achieve its true final potential.
- 1:07:54When we read The Diabolical by Michael, we know we see this,
- 1:07:58and we are always intended to evolve to keep on growing.
- 1:08:04Ancestral Abaddon mentioned that his people don't reincarnate.
- 1:08:10They don't want to come back to this plane.
- 1:08:12They want to move on to the next plane of existence.
- 1:08:16Some people, definitely, you know, some people have
- 1:08:22definitely chosen to come back and reincarnate.
- 1:08:28And that's a choice that people can make, that they absolutely
- 1:08:31can make that in the afterlife. If they feel that they're not
- 1:08:35done here, that they haven't achieved what they needed to do
- 1:08:40in order to elevate themselves, then they can come back and they
- 1:08:44can reincarnate to get it right. And they can do that as many
- 1:08:50times as they feel that they need to.
- 1:08:51But the end all ultimate goal of reincarnation is to do it as
- 1:08:56much as you need to, so that you never have to do it again.
- 1:08:59So that you reach that final Zen stage and you can ascend from
- 1:09:06being just the mortal flesh, the the weak flesh, into an energy
- 1:09:14form that is about other things, to literally ascend to become a
- 1:09:19deity yourself. Yeah.
- 1:09:27And that that's one of the very big, important things for most
- 1:09:32Satanists. We don't often talk about this,
- 1:09:34actually, because a lot of Satanists are focused on the
- 1:09:37here and the now. We're we're not trained to worry
- 1:09:40about what happens after death. We do have an afterlife.
- 1:09:44We do express that, but we're not trained to focus on that.
- 1:09:50We're focused more on living and enjoying our life here now and
- 1:09:54celebrating ourselves and trying to be happy with what we have.
- 1:10:00My my next question is, is that obviously we've all experienced
- 1:10:05that when any group or man has some kind of power or considers
- 1:10:10themselves higher than others, they become a problem.
- 1:10:14They start killing, they start harming, they start taking away
- 1:10:17from others. If a lot of these humans start
- 1:10:20believing that they are gods and deify themselves, isn't there
- 1:10:24going to be a conflict as? Is there any discussion than
- 1:10:27that about that? I don't think so.
- 1:10:33I don't think. I think the main conflict, just
- 1:10:36like you've seen, is mostly between the theists and the
- 1:10:39atheists. You and I have discussed many
- 1:10:42times on the air about how Jeffrey Dahmer pointed out that
- 1:10:46without some sort of theistic ideology helping guide morals.
- 1:10:51You know, on individual morals, the we wouldn't have morals.
- 1:10:56And I think that is where the true conflict lies.
- 1:11:00Is the individuals who have a moralist, A moral compass of
- 1:11:06some sort, and it doesn't matter what kind.
- 1:11:08It could be Christian, it could be Odinist, it can be Satanist,
- 1:11:13whatever, as long as it's some sort of theistic moral compass.
- 1:11:17Because most theistic moral compasses, in my experience,
- 1:11:21tend to be pretty good. You know, they tend to want to
- 1:11:25people to live their best lives. And yeah, that's where I think
- 1:11:34the real conflict is going to eventually be.
- 1:11:37We did just have a question. I'm sorry, I'm not diverting
- 1:11:41here, Brett. We did just have a question.
- 1:11:43Antonio Rodriguez asks, has Satanist and Odinus ever been on
- 1:11:48terms with National Socialism as one or or are we both very
- 1:11:54different groups? I know plenty of Odinus that are
- 1:12:01in National Socialism. We have.
- 1:12:06We have Brandon Lashbrooke. Hey, how's it going, man?
- 1:12:11Oh, good, everybody can hear me. Yeah, we can hear you.
- 1:12:14You might want to mute your mic for a second there because I'm
- 1:12:18getting some feedback on you. All right.
- 1:12:21Thank you. Going back to really quickly,
- 1:12:25I've met plenty of National Socialists who were odinous, who
- 1:12:29were Christians and all sorts of things.
- 1:12:33And you know, in National Socialism, it's once you find
- 1:12:40that similar point that everybody can agree upon, I
- 1:12:45don't think it really matters to what the personal religious
- 1:12:52beliefs are because you have that political ideology, which
- 1:12:56is virtually a religion itself that everybody can line up
- 1:13:00behind. I'm going to go ahead and turn
- 1:13:03the mic over to our newest guest, Brandon.
- 1:13:07Brandon, can you tell us a little bit about yourself?
- 1:13:11Well, you know, I found out about Satanism when I was about
- 1:13:1514 years old, I believe that was 1996.
- 1:13:18An older friend gave me The Satanic Bible and I read it, You
- 1:13:21know, I really resonated with it.
- 1:13:23And then, you know, I liked Goth and industrial music and Marilyn
- 1:13:26Manson and it was about that time when the whole trench coat
- 1:13:29mafia thing was going on, you know, so there was a lot of like
- 1:13:32anger and frustration with how people were being treated in the
- 1:13:35public school system and all that, you know, So that kind of
- 1:13:38like this fueled, you know, my resentment towards us, the
- 1:13:41Christians and everyone else to begin with.
- 1:13:43And then or you know, and then I got into later, I got in the
- 1:13:48temple set for a little while when I was like 1718, I joined
- 1:13:52them. I was in that for like 2 years.
- 1:13:54And then, you know, I was, I was more into the thalima as well.
- 1:13:58I got into that And then but in the in the Satanic or the
- 1:14:01Citians, I found out about esoteric chronology and then
- 1:14:05that led me into Odanism and everything.
- 1:14:08But I kind of began more as like an Odeon Ester chronology type
- 1:14:12rather than like the whole community aspect of it.
- 1:14:14And then eventually, you know, I got more into the bloats and the
- 1:14:17symbols and the the the community aspect of it, you
- 1:14:21know, But that that's pretty much like been my main focuses.
- 1:14:25And then yeah, I learned about Fourth Way as well.
- 1:14:27I liked a lot of gorgeous teaching on evolving
- 1:14:30consciousness, escape and mechanical life, things like
- 1:14:33that. And as far as politics, you
- 1:14:35know, the area where I'm from, there actually was like a KKK
- 1:14:39presence for a while, you know, And I'd been to some of those
- 1:14:44demonstrations when I was a kid and I remember talking about the
- 1:14:46Hall of Hoax and things like that, and that stuck with me,
- 1:14:50you know? And then later on, I found out
- 1:14:52about anarchism, anarchist communism.
- 1:14:55And I got into that and I was thinking, well, you know, if we
- 1:14:58got rid of the monetary system, then the Federal Reserve, the
- 1:15:01Rocks child, all that stuff would be powerless anyways, you
- 1:15:03know. But later on, I found out about
- 1:15:06the white genocide agenda. Like, one of the guests here
- 1:15:08mentioned the clergy plan. I looked into that.
- 1:15:11Then I found out about Germany and his parents, which was an
- 1:15:13open plan to sterilize and kill all the Germans around World War
- 1:15:17One, which, you know, they were kind of starving Germans to
- 1:15:19death, most likely. That's why many of the Germans
- 1:15:21came here to Illinois, where I'm at, because they had to get out
- 1:15:23of there because they were pretty much just dying out, you
- 1:15:25know, So they came here to become farmers and and other
- 1:15:28things. But, yeah, so I went from, like,
- 1:15:31you know, being raised up kind of were racially conscious.
- 1:15:34But then I found out about income and all that and the
- 1:15:36general strikes, and I thought that was like a good way for the
- 1:15:39people to revolt against the system.
- 1:15:40If we had general strikes to take back the factories on the
- 1:15:43land, you know, we could have dual power movements, organized
- 1:15:46workers, students, like, I figured that was the way to do
- 1:15:49it. And I'll say, well, man, maybe
- 1:15:50white people alone can't do this like we might.
- 1:15:52It's probably going to take like a class solidarity among the
- 1:15:56workers to really make the changes.
- 1:15:58Because I think only the producing class can do it.
- 1:16:00You know, like I don't think a political elite or even I don't
- 1:16:03think we're going to even have a new aristocracy at this point
- 1:16:05because that comes from battle. You know, people lead their
- 1:16:07armies in battle like we. That's one thing I understand
- 1:16:10about fascism, it's about strong leadership.
- 1:16:12But where how can we even get battle selection nowadays to to
- 1:16:15produce the leadership that something like that we need, you
- 1:16:17know, we don't have the conditions to do it.
- 1:16:20But I mean I think like the work, the producing classes is
- 1:16:23the only only one that can make the difference nowadays.
- 1:16:26You know, I I still believe that, you know.
- 1:16:29Yeah, definitely. So let me let me ask you what
- 1:16:33led you to Satanism? Oh, when I was 14 in The Satanic
- 1:16:38Bible, you know, a friend gave it to me and we did a actually,
- 1:16:42I'll tell you, sorry. Like, there was this one guy
- 1:16:44that was older. I was only in like the 6th
- 1:16:46grade. And this older guy bullied me
- 1:16:47and tried to jump me. And I got a fight with him.
- 1:16:49And, you know, I was at a cousin's house and he had these
- 1:16:52murals. He would draw on the wall,
- 1:16:53right? And one day I drew the guy on
- 1:16:56there, and I drew him with like, genitalia in his mouth, being
- 1:16:58hung and stuff as a curse, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:17:01And I did a curse on this guy, and then this guy ends up
- 1:17:03hanging himself and receiving. So you did.
- 1:17:05This drawing as part of a curse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:17:10On a mural on his wall. And the guy came through and
- 1:17:12seen it, but I had already done curses and stuff on him.
- 1:17:14And then he actually ended up hanging himself in the prisoner
- 1:17:17seating. And that's why you can't have
- 1:17:19shoelaces there anymore, you know, without.
- 1:17:21It took a while for that thing to work with.
- 1:17:23I mean eventually it did, you know, and that was one of the
- 1:17:25first Satanic controls that I'd done, was a curse on this guy.
- 1:17:28But you know, the older friend had given me the Satanic Bible
- 1:17:30and that's what it got me into. But you know, my mom, she was
- 1:17:33into a tear out and stuff like that.
- 1:17:35More like open handed magic. You know, she didn't have like a
- 1:17:37philosophical understanding of the cult and things like that,
- 1:17:40but you seem to have like kind of a natural, magical ability of
- 1:17:43things at the same time. So you've been following STS for
- 1:17:47a while and I've. I've noticed you following our
- 1:17:49organization for a while. What?
- 1:17:52What brought you to the STS front?
- 1:17:56Well, I noticed some of your posts and then I seen you had
- 1:17:58the Tulian Society and I had read the Spirit Destiny back in
- 1:18:04early 2000s. So I kind of read about Tul
- 1:18:06there and Theosophical Society, some of their views on all that
- 1:18:09and how all that kind of shaped some of the SSUS of the Iron
- 1:18:13Urban, all that. So I was like, oh, wow, that's
- 1:18:15interesting, you know, I'd like to know more about that, you
- 1:18:17know? Cool, cool, cool, cool.
- 1:18:19Well, I'd also could you. You and I were both NSM members.
- 1:18:25From what I understand of your your post, you were under Jeff
- 1:18:29Scoop. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:18:32At the time he was for 2012, I was pretty involved up to 2018.
- 1:18:37And then whenever the starts, little thing happened, just
- 1:18:40people got cracked down on with frivolous lawsuits.
- 1:18:42They're they're coming to their homes with their cars, just
- 1:18:45everything they could like suiting them not only
- 1:18:47organizationally but as individuals and everything.
- 1:18:50Just everybody kind of seemed to back off and go quiet at that
- 1:18:52point. And then the Internet censorship
- 1:18:54just went crazy on everybody. Everybody's still dealing with
- 1:18:56that. It slowed down a little bit, but
- 1:18:58it's still that way. Yeah.
- 1:19:00I mean it's going to explode like they try to cap it off and
- 1:19:02quiet it. Eventually it's just.
- 1:19:03I can imagine that at least on this, this live stream might get
- 1:19:08censored. I know it's almost guaranteed to
- 1:19:11get shadow banned. You mind if I ask another
- 1:19:14question? Go ahead.
- 1:19:17As you've probably been noticing Lucifer on.
- 1:19:20Oh, we got a little bit of an echo there.
- 1:19:23Yeah. Brandon, can you meet you Mike,
- 1:19:25please? Thank you.
- 1:19:26You guys have probably noticed on the news that there's been a
- 1:19:29lot of incidences where there's people walking around in the
- 1:19:32roads and around. A lot of these have big
- 1:19:35corporate buildings where they're wearing masks and
- 1:19:39carrying Nazi flags with them. And it's believed by many that
- 1:19:43these are FBI agents who were trying to cause some strife.
- 1:19:48If you don't mind, what is your views on that?
- 1:19:50Your take? So you're talking about going
- 1:19:54Defense League? Possibly.
- 1:19:55There's some groups like that that I'm kind of suspicious of.
- 1:19:58But I'm wondering if that that could be the case of them, that
- 1:20:01maybe they could be agent provocateurs or something like
- 1:20:03that. I'm.
- 1:20:04I'm. I'm definitely even thinking
- 1:20:06that myself, you know. Yeah, yeah, it's likely.
- 1:20:11I mean, not all of them, but a lot of them, you know, I mean at
- 1:20:14the same time, you know when they had the whole crackdown in
- 1:20:162018, I was thinking it's a good thing because it seems like a
- 1:20:19lot of people got into the all right and everything as they
- 1:20:21figured they could make money off of it.
- 1:20:23So I feel like it kind of weed out the people that were into
- 1:20:26it. Just for like monetary gain, you
- 1:20:28know, So me at the same time, in the longer run, it's going to be
- 1:20:29a good thing because then we're only going to end up the
- 1:20:32leadership that's willing to make the sacrifices, you know,
- 1:20:34everything. You pretty much you're going to
- 1:20:36have to sacrifice everything if you want to be some kind of
- 1:20:38leader figure in that type of thing, you know?
- 1:20:40So yeah, but that's my view on it anyway, so.
- 1:20:44Yeah, Jake, your view. Yeah, well, going back to the
- 1:20:50whole ODNES thing I taught. I taught the ODNES thing while
- 1:20:55while doing Side and the Great Replacements, a very real thing.
- 1:21:04I I like what you said to Brandon about when you when you
- 1:21:08found this the Satanic Bible. I found it in the in in a store
- 1:21:14and it just came to me and it it definitely resonated.
- 1:21:20That was a good word for it resonated within me and Odinism
- 1:21:26and National Socialism. Like me being a National
- 1:21:30Socialist, I was teaching the Odinus and I was big into it.
- 1:21:33My I got a Thor's Hammer right here.
- 1:21:36That was part of the path. But Satanism was always there
- 1:21:41and and always there. And I had a friend, a friend
- 1:21:45inside that. We did a few solitary rituals
- 1:21:48and stuff and everyone thought we were just insane or whatever.
- 1:21:53But yeah, thank you Brandon for sharing because he speaks a lot
- 1:22:01right there to me. Oh.
- 1:22:04You're welcome. Yeah.
- 1:22:06I don't see anything inflicting between Satanism and Odinism.
- 1:22:09I mean, Anton Lavey even. And Satan speaks.
- 1:22:11If you've read his last book, he says he considered Odinism to be
- 1:22:15a noble form of Satanism. And then he also talked about
- 1:22:17being their specific genetic type.
- 1:22:20That would be considered Satanic.
- 1:22:22But he talked like it might, you know, transcend ethnicity.
- 1:22:24But he talked like, eventually, you know, they'll discover
- 1:22:27something like. That I love.
- 1:22:35Satan's loose fur. You're muted, Sir.
- 1:22:39Sorry about that. Thank you for catching the
- 1:22:41Ancestral. What's your views?
- 1:22:49Organism who's distinctively? We're having trouble hearing you
- 1:22:53there. Organism and Satanism runs hand
- 1:22:57in hand. Yeah, That's going back to an
- 1:23:01earlier question that we had. Let me see if I can bring that
- 1:23:05up. Yeah, they definitely.
- 1:23:10There's a lot there that is alike.
- 1:23:14Just like just like studying music and the Germanic tradition
- 1:23:19of wanton, they compliment each other, they go hand in hand.
- 1:23:22They're of different cultures. They're just different angles.
- 1:23:30Mr. Lucifer, I shared a link with you in private that if
- 1:23:33you're interested in looking at it.
- 1:23:34Later. Yeah, I'm looking at it right
- 1:23:36now. Yeah, it's that video that
- 1:23:39you're playing. Which group is this?
- 1:23:44Well, this is the group that people think Are the FBI trying
- 1:23:48to cause trouble and strife in these different though.
- 1:23:52They're Satanists. These are Satanists.
- 1:23:56These are actual Satanists. They're running the 28
- 1:24:01Ancestral. Can you please tell people about
- 1:24:04the 218 current? Have it on your mic.
- 1:24:22Looks like he might have froze up up.
- 1:24:24There he is. Ancestral can.
- 1:24:27OK, we lost them, Kufin. All right.
- 1:24:32Jake, do you know anything about the 218 current?
- 1:24:36No, I've only read a very small thing about it, and.
- 1:24:41All right, so the 218 current is the black light current we got.
- 1:24:49There it is. Hey there. 218 is the cheating
- 1:24:54on the other side, the black light.
- 1:25:02So go ahead, go ahead. It's a phoenistic teaching
- 1:25:07teaching of his purple. Yeah, it I believe it originates
- 1:25:16from the Black Order of. The.
- 1:25:21Black Order of Pen Europa. I believe they were one of the
- 1:25:27first ones formed in 1994 that orders they were affiliated with
- 1:25:38the Order of Nine Angles and Ordo Centra Vivendi, it's that's
- 1:25:47really interesting. But the link that you sent me,
- 1:25:51I'm going to go ahead and quickly share my screen with
- 1:25:56everybody. Well, there's another group out
- 1:26:01there that's goofing around too. They call themselves the
- 1:26:03Patriotic Front. You'll notice that usually
- 1:26:06conservatives don't wear a mask or all these.
- 1:26:09Usually the groups that wear the mask are the ones that plan on
- 1:26:12throwing a cocktail at you sooner or later.
- 1:26:14Yeah. When I was part of National
- 1:26:19Socialist Movement, we did not wear masks at all.
- 1:26:24So this is the so we can see on the back of one of these guys,
- 1:26:35oh, it's he's got the 2218 Jake, Jake, Does that mean anything to
- 1:26:41you, 2218? Yeah, well, there's like 2316 is
- 1:26:48SWP, 2218 there's the one and the eight is Adolf Hitler, 81
- 1:26:56being A with the 8th being H with them.
- 1:27:00With the 22, it's probably the initial of their part of their
- 1:27:09organization, meaning kind of like.
- 1:27:11AI don't know if we can read this on the back of their
- 1:27:13shirts. It looked like some bloodstorm
- 1:27:18or something like that. Might be firm 22.
- 1:27:22No, I don't. Know you can't read that.
- 1:27:28That's one guy's. Shirt.
- 1:27:30That's one. That's all Greenland is.
- 1:27:36Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to go ahead and
- 1:27:39stop sharing back over here. So, yeah, that that was really
- 1:27:46interesting. Thank you for sharing that with
- 1:27:48me. Of course I'm not going to play
- 1:27:51their whole damn video. I was wondering what the 218 had
- 1:27:59to do with that launch. Oh, this is Patriot Front.
- 1:28:03Jake, this is your old crew. We just got a link.
- 1:28:06If you look into private chat, you'll be able to see the links
- 1:28:12that Brett just put up. But yeah, this is a.
- 1:28:17They're they're different than what I was.
- 1:28:19Patriotic Front, Yeah. I was never involved with
- 1:28:21Patriotic Front. They're kind of a new the new
- 1:28:24Patriot Private. Yeah, yeah, I wasn't.
- 1:28:28I was involved with Patriot Patriot Front, but I've been
- 1:28:30reading a lot about them lately and articles to do with them
- 1:28:35going to gatherings and marches and stuff like that in Idaho,
- 1:28:39protesting transgenders and all that.
- 1:28:43What's your personal views, guys, about transgenderism,
- 1:28:49especially when it comes to Satanism?
- 1:28:57When it comes to, I mean, when it comes to Satanism, you know,
- 1:29:02we don't make a big deal about people's sexual preference or
- 1:29:07whatever. But at the same time, it seems
- 1:29:09like it goes against nature. And not only that, like, I don't
- 1:29:12know if any you're familiar with that documentary, The
- 1:29:14Disappearing Male. It shows how there's guys that
- 1:29:17are so messed up from all the the gender fitting chemicals
- 1:29:21that they're they're their balls are like in their stomachs, like
- 1:29:24ovaries, and they're born. So it seems like there's not
- 1:29:27only the psychological aspect of the feminization of the men,
- 1:29:30it's also being pushed chemically so.
- 1:29:32For. People to think that they're
- 1:29:34just naturally going along with that and it's not some kind of
- 1:29:36social engineering. I don't believe that.
- 1:29:39You know, I think people, people should really consider how it's
- 1:29:42not just some natural thing that's happening with people,
- 1:29:45you know, and and Satanists. We're about the natural order,
- 1:29:48right? So believe in that and you you
- 1:29:50wouldn't want to be forced into some something that's making you
- 1:29:53go against your natural instincts, you.
- 1:29:57Know Brandon? Are you familiar with the Lex
- 1:30:00Satanicus? No, I.
- 1:30:03Don't think I've. I've heard of that yet.
- 1:30:04No, I I don't have the Lex daily onus.
- 1:30:06Yeah, so I've heard. Well, Lex Satanicus is native to
- 1:30:10the STS. You can actually find it on our
- 1:30:14website. Oh, that's a tough question you
- 1:30:19asked there, Mr. Lucifer. That could get us some trouble
- 1:30:22on YouTube, but I'll answer you if you like.
- 1:30:27OK. Go ahead, Brett, how, how does,
- 1:30:29how do you feel, how do you feel about the whole trend?
- 1:30:33Brent, can you meet your Mac please?
- 1:30:36Yeah, unfortunately caused the echo.
- 1:30:39I wouldn't be able to at this time be able to make an
- 1:30:42association with Satanism, but as far as transgender goes, you
- 1:30:46probably have heard there's more than just the transgender.
- 1:30:49There's the trans, disabled, the trans age people.
- 1:30:53Now we you got 6 year old men who want to be 6 year old little
- 1:30:57girls and go in the bathroom and play with little girls.
- 1:31:00I personally think that it's a mental illness.
- 1:31:03Just like if you woke up tomorrow and decided you feel
- 1:31:06like you're Marilyn Monroe, you know these people are going to
- 1:31:09question it, right? So that's where my view is.
- 1:31:13Yeah, yeah, I hear you. Jake, can you go ahead and give
- 1:31:19us your point of view on, you know, just your personal point
- 1:31:22of view? Yeah, Ancestral's absolutely
- 1:31:24right when it when it comes to that.
- 1:31:26There's a lot of perversion that comes with transgenders, such as
- 1:31:31old men wanting to be with around little children in their
- 1:31:34bathrooms. And it's gotten so far out there
- 1:31:37that there's there's a kid or kids now who say that they're
- 1:31:40Kitty cats and the school had to bring in a litter box for them.
- 1:31:44That's just insanity. Yeah, you got trans animals,
- 1:31:48also called other Ken. These are people who wake up and
- 1:31:53say I'm a gerbil today, I'm a puppy dog.
- 1:31:56You see what I mean? So it's a it's a mental illness
- 1:31:58and I think it needs psychological help medication,
- 1:32:01which they used to do for people like.
- 1:32:03Yeah, exactly, exactly, but. Nowadays it's a political
- 1:32:07movement. Yeah yeah, Abaddon, can you go
- 1:32:10ahead with your opinion if you want to give it next?
- 1:32:18Topic. Next topic you think No comment.
- 1:32:22I I do want to say to the audience out there so they don't
- 1:32:26try to hit me with some kind of hate speech thing.
- 1:32:28I got no hate towards folks like this.
- 1:32:30In fact, I pity I have compassion and I hope that they
- 1:32:34get the best professional help that money can buy.
- 1:32:37So there's no hate there whatsoever.
- 1:32:39All right. Yeah, I'm also going to go out
- 1:32:42there and flat out say once again.
- 1:32:47I've said it a couple times in this live stream, STS does not
- 1:32:51promote hate, violence or any of these sort of things.
- 1:32:57The gentleman that you are seeing with me on the screen,
- 1:33:01we've all come from a past of that and we've chosen to move
- 1:33:06away from that as best as we can.
- 1:33:10Just because we have that past does not mean that that's how we
- 1:33:13are now. Oh, Lucifer, I I didn't mention
- 1:33:18what the trans disabled are. Have you heard of these folks?
- 1:33:21Yes, I have. Oh goodness gracious.
- 1:33:24For anybody out there that hasn't heard, I'll give a quick
- 1:33:27summary not to. Put you really quickly, we do
- 1:33:29have a new form of trans. It's just developed.
- 1:33:34Oh, it's trans Brett. Identifying as a keen Oh no,
- 1:33:42goodness, you're evil right there.
- 1:33:45So the trans disabled. For those who don't know, it's
- 1:33:47people who fantasize about cutting their own body parts
- 1:33:51off. They're imagine extreme cutter.
- 1:33:55But this is a person who actually fantasizes about being
- 1:33:58disabled. Oh, everybody's just, like,
- 1:34:05damn, All right, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's it's getting
- 1:34:08bad. It's.
- 1:34:11Just movie. I forget what it's called.
- 1:34:16Diana and I watched it a while back and if anybody's seen the
- 1:34:20movie, Ginger snaps, it has the same actress as that in.
- 1:34:24And I think it's something like American Betty or something like
- 1:34:27that. And what it is is she's this
- 1:34:31plastic surgeon and she gets invited to this one party and
- 1:34:36she gets roofied and raped at the party and she drops out of
- 1:34:44like medical school or whatever she was doing because she was a
- 1:34:48big up and Comer in the plastic surgeon field.
- 1:34:51And she drops out and she goes into the underground body
- 1:34:56modification, you know, scene and it's like underground
- 1:35:02surgeries that and everything. Like the the demon twins were
- 1:35:09guests in the movie where they each wanted the other's boobs
- 1:35:13swapped with them so they could always have part of their sister
- 1:35:18with them. And then there's other people
- 1:35:20who just, they want to have arms and legs removed for whatever
- 1:35:25reason. And yeah, it was a pretty
- 1:35:29graphic movie. Sounds like it.
- 1:35:35Wow. Wow.
- 1:35:36Yeah, that is rough. Yeah, I saw.
- 1:35:41I saw a video game like that, chopping off fingers and
- 1:35:47chopping off legs. I've seen something like that
- 1:35:49with these these people. They're psychologically screwed
- 1:35:54in the head. Yeah.
- 1:35:56So I mean, there's, you know, there's a lot of things going on
- 1:35:59there. I want to talk about really
- 1:36:01quickly what spawned this whole this.
- 1:36:06We're about an hour and a half into this live stream, and I
- 1:36:10want to say thank you to everybody for showing up.
- 1:36:12And I'm pretty sure most people are curious as to what started
- 1:36:19this whole conversation with Satanism in our National
- 1:36:24Socialism and Satanism. And there are many different
- 1:36:29groups that are openly involved with National Socialism that are
- 1:36:37Satanic. We have groups such as Joy of
- 1:36:40Satan, the Black Order. There was also the Order of the
- 1:36:469 Angles, as well as there's been other various National
- 1:36:52Socialist groups that have been involved with Satanism, such as
- 1:36:57the now defunct but very infamous Atomwaffen division.
- 1:37:02I'm pretty sure us four guys are very familiar with them and
- 1:37:09whatnot, but one organization that is not commonly identified
- 1:37:18as being involved with National Socialism is the Church of
- 1:37:24Satan. For those people who have not
- 1:37:29who are just joining us here, I want to go ahead and replay this
- 1:37:37clip that we played at the beginning.
- 1:37:39It's only about 30 seconds long. OK, I'll be ready.
- 1:37:48OK. Boyd, you want to tell us a
- 1:37:50little bit about yourself and the church and what we saw this
- 1:37:54evening? OK, I'm a member of the Church
- 1:37:57of Satan and I'm a musician. I've written a few books and
- 1:38:02what we did this evening was a ritual.
- 1:38:04Anton was saying the other night, He's saying Satanism is
- 1:38:07coming out of the ritual chamber into the mainstream.
- 1:38:09And I think that's what we're doing, trying to bring that
- 1:38:11message to a a broader audience. OK, so we played that a couple
- 1:38:18Times Now in this live stream. And the gentleman for those
- 1:38:24people who may or may not know who we are talking about is
- 1:38:30Anton Susandor Levay, the founder of the Church Satan.
- 1:38:35And we have several clips here that we can play of him that
- 1:38:39people can see. Here's here's one so people can
- 1:38:41be introduced to good old Anton. We perform human sacrifices by
- 1:38:48proxy. You might say the destruction of
- 1:38:50human beings who would, let's say, create an antagonistic
- 1:38:54situation towards us in the form of curses and hexes.
- 1:38:59So Anton Levay was the founder of the Church Satan.
- 1:39:02And right there, he's saying some very powerful words, some
- 1:39:06very aggressive words. Now, Antoine Levay created a
- 1:39:11sigil, and I noticed that Brandon is wearing that specific
- 1:39:14sigil around his neck, the what's called the Levay sigil
- 1:39:19and whatnot. So this is what it looks like.
- 1:39:23And people will take note that it is an inverted pentagram with
- 1:39:27a Thunderbolt going right through the middle.
- 1:39:30But a lot of Satanists do not realize where this sigil came
- 1:39:36from, And this Sitchell was actually inspired by another
- 1:39:41source, And this source I am putting up on the screen right
- 1:39:44now. And this source was the National
- 1:39:49Resistance Party. Now, what people may not know
- 1:39:54about is that the National Resistance Party, or NRP, was
- 1:39:59founded by James Maddow, and I'm going to point right down near
- 1:40:04the bottom of the screen. Where people can read the final
- 1:40:09lines of this post. And it says the NRP also
- 1:40:14maintained good relations with a number of far out mystical
- 1:40:17groups such as the Church of Satan, whose founder Anton Lavey
- 1:40:23was a personal friend of Maddall's.
- 1:40:28And looks like we all lost Abaddon.
- 1:40:33We're going to keep on going. So this is from the Anton Lavey
- 1:40:39Wikipedia page. You can actually go ahead and
- 1:40:42see it. And what it says is Levey was a
- 1:40:45member of James Maddall's Neo Fascist National Resistance
- 1:40:49party. Due to Maddall's opposition to
- 1:40:52Christianity, he sought new religious ideas and was
- 1:40:56attracted to a merging of Fascism and Satanism that led to
- 1:41:01an alliance between Levey and Maddall Black Sun by Nicholas
- 1:41:07Goodrich, Clark states. James Wagner, a former security
- 1:41:11Echuan SC commander, recalls that relations between the NRP
- 1:41:16and the Church Satan, founded in 1966 by Anton Susander Levay,
- 1:41:21were cordial. Madhal and Levay frequently met
- 1:41:25at the NRP office and in the Warlock bookshop in New York.
- 1:41:33So the oh, that's not showing up very well.
- 1:41:39The NRP, whose central you can see here very clearly has this
- 1:41:45very unique Thunderbolt going through it and it's a very
- 1:41:54unique sigil. We see it in Satanism, even in
- 1:41:57the more modern version that Peter Gilmore created for the
- 1:42:04Rite of Ragnarok. A lot of Church Satan members
- 1:42:10will try to deny this connection, but I think it's
- 1:42:16pretty obvious that that's what the connection is from that
- 1:42:21sigil, and this is what has inspired this whole topic.
- 1:42:27Anton Lavey, in no uncertain terms, was just like the men you
- 1:42:33see on the screen here, a Neo Nazi at one point, and he was
- 1:42:38surrounded himself with some very interesting characters in
- 1:42:45the field of National Socialism. So now I'm going to open up the
- 1:42:48floor to you gentlemen and go ahead and give us your views in
- 1:42:55your own time. Go ahead, Jake.
- 1:43:07Our views on on what you just revealed.
- 1:43:12Yeah, Give us your views in general on how just in general
- 1:43:17about this whole topic, Anton the way being a National
- 1:43:20Socialist, the fact that, yeah, he did have some Jewish
- 1:43:26ancestry, but he was involved with James Maddow.
- 1:43:34Right. So as as we know though, he
- 1:43:39wouldn't really be be listed with Orthodox Jews as being
- 1:43:42Jewish because that was on his father's side, not his mother's
- 1:43:45side. And when it comes to.
- 1:43:49That's from my understanding. Yes, I bear the right to be
- 1:43:53wrong on any point of that. But from what I was told by
- 1:43:58people very close to him, Anton Lavey was very adamant that it
- 1:44:03was his grandmother who is Jewish.
- 1:44:06All right. Well, when it comes to Anton
- 1:44:09Lavey being involved with the NRP, it helps me, as I stated on
- 1:44:16a on a post, that it tells me that I'm on the right path, that
- 1:44:20I'm pursuing exactly. I'm exactly where I'm supposed
- 1:44:23to be. I'm pursuing exactly what I'm
- 1:44:25supposed to do in my life. And it's it's focusing on
- 1:44:29Satanism and being less political, less politically
- 1:44:34minded. And because there's there was
- 1:44:37quite a few issues involved with my political life when it when
- 1:44:44it comes to the whole skinheads and a member of Wolf Shrine, a
- 1:44:47member of American Front, a member of, you know, solo Lone
- 1:44:53wolf. But National Socialism?
- 1:44:55What people need to understand about National Socialism though
- 1:44:58is that it wasn't just for the White Aryan peoples of of
- 1:45:01Germany. If you read Mein Kampf, you'll
- 1:45:04see that it was meant for other ethnicities as well.
- 1:45:08And that's why today there are very educated national socials
- 1:45:12out there who are who are black, who who are Jewish, who who are
- 1:45:18Mexican, who are Hindi. And when it comes to more of the
- 1:45:23whole Jewish thing too, Francis Parker Yaki, who wrote the the
- 1:45:29book Imperium. He was a post war fascist who
- 1:45:34was a prosecutor originally of the Nuremberg trial and he and.
- 1:45:38There was a lot of Jews that joined the National Socialist
- 1:45:42German Workers Party voluntarily.
- 1:45:44They weren't pressured into it. They joined.
- 1:45:48They genuinely believed in it. Yeah, there's over 100,000 Jews
- 1:45:52that were involved with National Socialist Germany who fought for
- 1:45:56the Reich. If you read the book Hitler's
- 1:45:58Jewish Soldiers, that will blow your mind away about what the
- 1:46:03truth is. And then the you see pictures of
- 1:46:07a lot of the s s. They were Japanese.
- 1:46:10They they were they, they were every ethnicity out there.
- 1:46:13And I. Remember seeing pictures of
- 1:46:15Indians from soldiers from India in not the uniforms.
- 1:46:19And they were. They were not.
- 1:46:21They were not German soldiers. These were Indian Hindu soldiers
- 1:46:26fighting for the Reich from India.
- 1:46:30Yeah. And there at the end of the war
- 1:46:33too there were all all those those tale I have wrong that all
- 1:46:41those priests that died in the battle of Berlin fighting for
- 1:46:44Germany and they they are priests of from like Tibet.
- 1:46:49They're Tibetan monks and they they fought for the Reich at the
- 1:46:53at the Battle of Berlin, which was second to last year.
- 1:46:56He was not a racist country at all.
- 1:47:00No, in fact, in fact, Owens, the Olympic runner, I think is, was
- 1:47:07his name the black Olympic runner.
- 1:47:08They always try to say that Hitler snubbed him and all this
- 1:47:11other stuff, but Hitler actually met with.
- 1:47:14Him. He plotted him.
- 1:47:15He, he was really enthusiastic. I remember reading Hitler's
- 1:47:19notes. He was really enthusiastic about
- 1:47:21meeting him. Yeah.
- 1:47:23In fact, they say that he he died with a with a picture of
- 1:47:28him with Adolf Hitler in his wallet.
- 1:47:32Cool, cool. So as somebody who's been so
- 1:47:37heavily involved with the National Socialist movements on
- 1:47:42the wrong side of the field, why do you think the racial hatred
- 1:47:48seeped into the the movement? Now, where do you think that
- 1:47:52came from? I think that came from a lot of
- 1:47:55the communistic teachings that that they melded into it
- 1:47:59secretly into the fascist rhetoric where they want us to
- 1:48:05be Hollywood, it's Hollywood Nazis.
- 1:48:08It's where you hate everyone other than your own kind and
- 1:48:13hate them with a passion and and yet The thing is it's it's
- 1:48:17supposed to be accepting them and.
- 1:48:19Worse. But if I'm understanding it
- 1:48:21correctly from my experience, I mean it was always more not so
- 1:48:25much about being hateful of other people, but being proud of
- 1:48:28your own people. I mean, we see Native Americans
- 1:48:32like Abaddon, who I've never seen one ounce of racial hatred
- 1:48:37out of the man. I've seen extreme pride for his
- 1:48:41own people more than anything else.
- 1:48:44I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, Abaddon, but that's what I've
- 1:48:47always seen out of you. Lucifer, do you feel like what
- 1:48:51happened to them in the past is kind of like the same thing
- 1:48:54that's happened modern day, where when you see someone you
- 1:48:57don't like politically or their view, you just call them a Nazi
- 1:49:01or you you say this person is racist.
- 1:49:05They're a trans Phobe, they're Islam Phobe and throw every
- 1:49:08phobe you can at them in order to silence them.
- 1:49:11Do you think that might be? Yes, absolutely.
- 1:49:14And if you study what Anton Lavey was dealing with in the
- 1:49:191960s, in his time, he was under fire from exactly the same thing
- 1:49:26of what we're dealing with now. The hippie movement and the, the
- 1:49:33the civil rights movements going on during the 1960s.
- 1:49:40They were always attacking him, the left and right.
- 1:49:42And it wasn't just Christians. It was more the hippies and the
- 1:49:47civil rights movements that they were attacking him because he
- 1:49:51kept, he kept a very interesting cadre of people around him.
- 1:49:55And if you buy my, if you read my book, the Satanic Testament,
- 1:49:59I actually tell you some of the people that he kept in, you
- 1:50:05know, in around him. And he he was friends in with
- 1:50:08his in his inner circle with people like Nick Bugas, who is
- 1:50:15considered the author of the of the AY be Happy Merchant.
- 1:50:20He was friends with Kurt Saxon, who wrote the he was a member of
- 1:50:28the American Nazi Party, as well as several other people, several
- 1:50:33other things. And I believe he was also the
- 1:50:36author of the Poor Man's James Bond book series.
- 1:50:41He was also a member of the Minutemen, the Church,
- 1:50:45Scientology as well as the John Birch Society.
- 1:50:50He just a lot of people there. He was also he married his
- 1:50:53daughter Xena to Nicholas Schreck, who in the same
- 1:51:00documentary that I played earlier that had Boyd Rice,
- 1:51:05Nicholas Schreck and Boyd Rice. Did the 88O8 or was it I I It
- 1:51:13might have been the eight O 888 rally.
- 1:51:18I know, I know, Abaddon can correct me on the title, but it
- 1:51:22was a rally event that Nicholas Schreck, Boyd Rice and Zena
- 1:51:26Levay were all at and they held and that Boyd Rice was talking
- 1:51:31about there. So it was, it was very
- 1:51:35interesting that these all these people that he kept around him
- 1:51:39were heavily involved with the National Socialism and the Alt
- 1:51:47Right movements and yet they were not.
- 1:51:49These were not racist people. They didn't hate people.
- 1:51:53They were actually genuinely good people.
- 1:51:56There's plenty of pictures of Anton Lavey where he's hanging,
- 1:52:00and I think I've shown you pictures where he was hanging
- 1:52:03out with Sammy Davis Junior and other very big name black
- 1:52:08celebrities. Not one bad word.
- 1:52:11Not one hateful thing. We do have a strange things with
- 1:52:17our politicians, don't we? They're either babbling about
- 1:52:20China or Russia and then the next thing you know, they're
- 1:52:23sitting down having a wine and a sandwich with them.
- 1:52:27Exactly. And they they can't make up
- 1:52:30their mind on whether who's the enemy and who's not.
- 1:52:33I mean, after World War Two, we ended up going into the Korean
- 1:52:37War and then Vietnam War, and then suddenly we're in a Cold
- 1:52:40War with Russia for almost, what, 20-30 years.
- 1:52:50So. And then when that didn't hold
- 1:52:56up anymore, people were finally tired of like, what we're What
- 1:52:59are we in a Cold War for? Then we had 911 occur and
- 1:53:05suddenly we're in back in the Middle East.
- 1:53:08Yeah. So I'm starting to get to the
- 1:53:11point where I I can almost predict these things.
- 1:53:14You know, the moment that we get told a leader is the boogeyman,
- 1:53:18we're going to need to send some money someplace.
- 1:53:22Yeah. So yeah, this is funny.
- 1:53:37There is a brand of ice cream in India Today.
- 1:53:40It's called the Hitler ice cream.
- 1:53:44That's that's kind of funny. Let's have some.
- 1:53:51So, all right, we heard a few people's Brandon, what's your
- 1:53:59take on all this? Well, I remember when Satan
- 1:54:03speaks well, they mentioned there being Jews involved with
- 1:54:07the National Socialism and also Leon de Grill.
- 1:54:10He said that it would find its expression in unique ways among
- 1:54:14all the different races or ethnic groups.
- 1:54:16And there's a book called Black Nazis as well from Veronica Cork
- 1:54:20I've seen. And yeah, the Jesse Owens, I'm
- 1:54:25sure Hitler would acknowledge no blacks really good at running.
- 1:54:27I mean they actually have longer lower leg bones and they have
- 1:54:31better running ankles and a quicker burst of speed, you
- 1:54:34know, whites. On the other hand, you know,
- 1:54:36they say we could probably have some Neanderthals.
- 1:54:38So we we're better at like elliptic weightlifting and
- 1:54:40swimming and floating and stuff like that, you know, So I mean
- 1:54:43there's the differences in races.
- 1:54:45Every race has got their strength and weakness, but that
- 1:54:46doesn't mean that we got to be opposed to each other or
- 1:54:49fighting each other. You know and.
- 1:54:51National socials and recognize that and I'm sure that like
- 1:54:55every race could do it in their own way without us having to
- 1:54:59attack each other for resources or conflict of each other.
- 1:55:02But I just, I just and then also using the the lightning bolt
- 1:55:06symbol. I know Mosley used that and that
- 1:55:08was a symbol of action. So Satan was a philosophy about
- 1:55:11you making the most of life here and now in action?
- 1:55:13So when you saw the the power sigil, when you first saw
- 1:55:17Levay's power sigil, did you make any sort of connection to
- 1:55:21National Socialism with it? I remember seeing, like, Marilyn
- 1:55:26Manson use it at the time, but I didn't know that Manson probably
- 1:55:29got it from Mosley, you know, or so you'd say David Bowie.
- 1:55:32But David Bowie seems like he definitely would have gotten
- 1:55:34from Mosley over there in the UK, you know?
- 1:55:37But yeah, I didn't have a feel like that to it.
- 1:55:39To me seeing, you know, like like a type of national social
- 1:55:43smelling to the red and the white and the black.
- 1:55:46Yeah, when we when we look at the the National Resistance
- 1:55:52Party flag, we see that very distinct Levay and Thunderbolt
- 1:55:57right in the center. When you see this now Brandon,
- 1:56:03what what do you, what does it make you feel like?
- 1:56:06Well, how do you feel about that?
- 1:56:10I just think about action as far as like the esoteric aspect.
- 1:56:14Instead of trying to you know rise up to divinity bringing it
- 1:56:17down to man and and start from where we are, you know.
- 1:56:21And and also I kind of have a materialistic view on it.
- 1:56:24Like I've kind of noticed like a lot of the idealism and stuff
- 1:56:27that like the Constitution for example.
- 1:56:29If you don't have the money to go to Supreme Court, then what
- 1:56:31do your rights really mean? So I think that like a great
- 1:56:35idealism will come from a right materialism first.
- 1:56:38And one of the anarchist thinkers actually Michael but
- 1:56:40couldn't and he said he believed that the spirituality actually
- 1:56:43came out of economics. You know, you can look at
- 1:56:45certain cultures like Mexicans for example, they have corn and
- 1:56:48then gods that relate to corn. Or you see we had the mother
- 1:56:51goddesses that related to cows cause the Aryans, you know,
- 1:56:53they're had Al Fuma things like their ani, you know.
- 1:56:57So I think that there's the truth to that, like the idolism
- 1:57:00has to grow out of the right materialism and right material
- 1:57:03conditions 1st. And that's kind of another way I
- 1:57:05look at the lightning bolt, you know?
- 1:57:07So we saw that when Gilmore took over the Church Satan and he
- 1:57:14started maneuvering it towards atheism.
- 1:57:16One of the things that he did is he changed the the sigil from
- 1:57:24this flatheaded lightning bolt to this to being more of a
- 1:57:29sharper point and he actually changed the name of it.
- 1:57:32This is actually called the Sig panagram because that's supposed
- 1:57:36to actually be the sig room. What are you guys interpretation
- 1:57:45on this? You know, what's your take on
- 1:57:49Gilmore taking that and making it much more blatant?
- 1:57:52Because when Levay made his sigil, he just called it the
- 1:57:56power sigil. He didn't identify it with
- 1:57:59anything Germanic or Nazi. He never said it wasn't, but he
- 1:58:04never outrightly identified it as such.
- 1:58:07But naming it the sig pentagram or the sig pent Me personally, I
- 1:58:15think that like puts a more of a label on it, that this is closer
- 1:58:19related to National Socialism. What's your guys take on that?
- 1:58:25I think that the original Victorian was actually the Tivoz
- 1:58:28ruin with tear, but then eventually you know it went on
- 1:58:31to the Solilu, the the Seagrin. But that's the the guiding light
- 1:58:38relates to the the victory somehow with the Seagrin.
- 1:58:40But I don't quite understand like why they made that change
- 1:58:43from Tivoz to to the Solilu. I know they did with like Tivoz,
- 1:58:49'cause, you know, the Tutans, the Jamaic tribes are called the
- 1:58:51two people. Like kind of like Steve Laws was
- 1:58:53called too. So they're saying like the
- 1:58:54people of the victory God. And then, you know, eventually
- 1:58:57whenever they came to the migration ages and things like
- 1:59:00that, I think they changed over to Odin Moore's like a God.
- 1:59:03But. I I'm focusing on the sig
- 1:59:05pentagram. Brandon.
- 1:59:06I'm focusing on the sig pentagram with the church Satan.
- 1:59:10What what? How does that make you feel when
- 1:59:13he made that change? I.
- 1:59:19Agree that? No, because.
- 1:59:21Oh, sorry. Go ahead.
- 1:59:22You continue. Oh.
- 1:59:24Well, the Indo Europeans, you know, they brought the sky,
- 1:59:27Father God Paterdeus, you know, Brazil's like this lightning sky
- 1:59:30God. So he was was like that in a
- 1:59:33sense. But I think that just made it
- 1:59:34more clear, you know, like making an actual lightning bolt,
- 1:59:37rather than the idea of, like, the sky.
- 1:59:39Father, you know? Yeah, Jake.
- 1:59:45So anytime that I see symbols like that I I immediately in my
- 1:59:49my head excuse. Me, Jake, Brandon, can you mute,
- 1:59:51please. Thank you.
- 1:59:55Sorry, we're getting that echo again.
- 1:59:58Anytime I yeah, anytime I see symbols like that I I
- 2:00:01immediately go into my my head where I correlate it with with
- 2:00:07something that might be National Socialist minded or or odious
- 2:00:11minded or any things like that. So when I see.
- 2:00:15That see groom there with the power symbol power sigil I I
- 2:00:22immediately would would designate that coming from
- 2:00:26historically from national symbols Oswald Mosley and his
- 2:00:30party over in England and the National Renaissance Party as
- 2:00:36well James Maddow and that book The Black Sun that you mentioned
- 2:00:41was it's phenomenal I have it in my library and it it gets.
- 2:00:46You wrote a book about the Black Sun sigil, didn't you?
- 2:00:50Yes, I did. It's called Wilton's Arcana.
- 2:00:52Mystery of the Black Sun revealed volume one.
- 2:00:56I lost the volume to notes, so volume to may never be written
- 2:01:01unless I I do it here in in my Times Now.
- 2:01:06But yeah, it was all about the black sun, the symbolism behind
- 2:01:09it. And it I I went into a lot of
- 2:01:13the I looked at the the Eddas in a whole different light than
- 2:01:17what most people did, saw it, such as the one to the Odnes.
- 2:01:23See. Saw it differently.
- 2:01:25Mine was more more mystically minded.
- 2:01:29Gotcha, gotcha. And you can still buy it on.
- 2:01:34EBay and stuff and you can still buy it from the Barnes review I.
- 2:01:39But you don't. You don't get any.
- 2:01:42You don't get any payments out of that, do you?
- 2:01:45Not anymore, because the federal judge ruled for Amazon to take
- 2:01:50my books down. And so Amazon did.
- 2:01:54But they sold all of it, a bunch of them, to Barnes and Noble.
- 2:01:58That's who I was trying to come up with.
- 2:02:00And and then these other people sell it on eBay.
- 2:02:03I get. I get nothing now, No royalties
- 2:02:06whatsoever. I used to have you.
- 2:02:08Ever considered republishing through a new publishing agency?
- 2:02:12Yes. In fact, I kind of want to go
- 2:02:15through it and change a lot, change a lot more and revise it.
- 2:02:21And make less about actual hate because that was back during
- 2:02:26your dark time when you wrote that, am I correct?
- 2:02:29Yeah, yeah. And.
- 2:02:32Yeah, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what you know.
- 2:02:35If you get it revised, if you get it, you know where It's not
- 2:02:39so much about the hatred. Black Flame Press would be happy
- 2:02:44to publish it for you all. Right deal.
- 2:02:50So Ancestral Avadon. Yeah, Avadon.
- 2:02:55When you see Gilmore's changing of the classic Sig room or the
- 2:03:03classic power sigil to the Sig room and calling it the sig
- 2:03:09pentagram, how does that make you feel that you can?
- 2:03:11When you first saw this, this version after Peter Gilmore took
- 2:03:16over to Church Satan, did you immediately connect it to
- 2:03:21National Socialism? Or was that just something
- 2:03:24periphery and you didn't even think about it?
- 2:03:30I always seen a SIG ruling and the pentagram together before
- 2:03:34Gilmore. I've seen that symbol.
- 2:03:38I don't care about what that little jerk writes.
- 2:03:44That symbol has been out before him.
- 2:03:49So basically, if I'm getting you right, you know, when I first
- 2:03:55saw it, I personally felt like he stole that from Anton Levay.
- 2:04:00He did that, yeah. Just just like everything else.
- 2:04:05Yeah, nothing original comes from that, man.
- 2:04:09Nothing original. Comes from that man.
- 2:04:11Just to be clear for everybody who may not have normally
- 2:04:15watched my shows, for the past two weeks I've been showing up
- 2:04:20the world, showing the world that the Church Satan is full of
- 2:04:24shit when they're sitting there talking about Anton Lavey being
- 2:04:30an atheist. And we've we've managed to prove
- 2:04:33quite a quite a few times that Anton Lavey was not an atheist,
- 2:04:39and he even flat out said that publicly.
- 2:04:41So for any but for any Church Satan members who might be
- 2:04:45watching, and we know that they like to watch me because they
- 2:04:48they they like to see what they can try to attack on, they've
- 2:04:54gone quiet for the most part. We have a few noisy people out
- 2:04:57there, but all I can do is yell and scream, rant and rave.
- 2:05:00But just just to go ahead and clarify for people and well,
- 2:05:05certainly you're right. The the concept of God has given
- 2:05:09the world much beautiful music, many beautiful works of art.
- 2:05:13And certainly I feel God exists. But the name for God, of course,
- 2:05:19is different from many different people.
- 2:05:23So yeah, just just to clarify that Anton Lavet went on
- 2:05:27national television, looked at the camera, and in all genuine,
- 2:05:30honestly said that he believes in God.
- 2:05:34So yeah, Brett. What?
- 2:05:37What's this link you just sent me?
- 2:05:40It's I did a kind of a image recognition.
- 2:05:43I wanted to see if there was any symbols like what you've been
- 2:05:46shown on the screen and apparently it dates back to the
- 2:05:50old Soviet Union, Russia with the lightning bolt.
- 2:05:53And apparently that symbols been around for quite a time and it
- 2:05:57usually symbolizes politically, at least communism and
- 2:06:02socialism. Now my theory is this, and
- 2:06:06obviously I need to be much more educated whenever it comes the
- 2:06:09concept of Satanism. But since this brand of
- 2:06:12Satanists are claiming to be atheist, I would expect it to be
- 2:06:16a political move because it's not going to have anything to do
- 2:06:19with a God or the supernatural. So it's probably going to direct
- 2:06:23towards socialism, Who knows? Yeah, but so yeah, that's how I
- 2:06:33would take it. But it's pretty clear that when
- 2:06:36Anton Lavey you first utilized symbol first created power sigil
- 2:06:40he was not use it using it in a in a socialist communist setting
- 2:06:45And it I think we've managed to prove that where he got it from
- 2:06:50was James Maddall. Your take on that, Brett?
- 2:06:57Well, I mean, it's obvious to me from listening to Anton that he
- 2:07:02did believe in the supernatural and he believed in lore and all
- 2:07:05these. But as you know, the atheists
- 2:07:08are going to basically twist it upside down and make it about
- 2:07:12politics. Hurt to say it and stuff.
- 2:07:14Yeah, they they tend to like to make everything about politics
- 2:07:18instead of just stepping back and making it about the self and
- 2:07:23just being spiritual about it. And I think that's the big
- 2:07:26difference between the political right and the political left at
- 2:07:30the end of the day is the political right wants people to
- 2:07:33just be able to focus on their spiritual beliefs.
- 2:07:37Especially, you know, most often time the Christians want just a
- 2:07:42right just to be Christians and that's why they have founded
- 2:07:46this country. The, the, the I don't want to
- 2:07:51say the Puritans. The the what are they called
- 2:07:56from From Thanksgiving Wears funny hats and.
- 2:08:00Pilgrims. The Pilgrims, thank you.
- 2:08:05The Pilgrims came over and they were ousted because of their
- 2:08:09religious beliefs. So and that's what a lot of
- 2:08:13people were being forced out of the old country for and sent
- 2:08:16over to America for. So it was pretty natural that
- 2:08:20when we had our Constitution first written, the the freedom
- 2:08:25of religion was one of the top subjects that people wanted.
- 2:08:31And then of course the right to bear arms as well as the right
- 2:08:35to for the freedom of speech. These were the, I believe, the
- 2:08:39top three talking points for the founding fathers of America.
- 2:08:47And so nowadays we see the exact polar opposite come in from
- 2:08:53socialist ideology, communist ideology.
- 2:08:56It's not about the freedom of speech.
- 2:08:59It's not about the freedom of religion.
- 2:09:01It's not about the right to bear arms.
- 2:09:03They want literally a disarmed, subservient public that just to
- 2:09:12control an entire population and literally have a nation of
- 2:09:16slaves. Last night you, you and I were
- 2:09:20running that your the show on your channel and know the topic
- 2:09:24was slavery and whatnot. And to me that's exactly what I
- 2:09:32feel that the communists at the far left, the current political
- 2:09:39left, especially the Democrats, seem to want.
- 2:09:42They want to disarm America. They want to take away
- 2:09:45Americans, guns, their weapons, their ability to fight back, and
- 2:09:50they want to take away their religion, their right to believe
- 2:09:56in God or Satan or the goddess or any other deity out there.
- 2:10:01And they want to force them to not have a voice and want to
- 2:10:06take away their freedom of speech so they can't talk out or
- 2:10:09speak out about the injustices being done to them.
- 2:10:13I'm not just sad, but they also want to do like ancient times.
- 2:10:17They want to weaponize the system, get rid of anybody that
- 2:10:20questions any political opponents, and have a bunch of
- 2:10:24people who are willing to work hours on end with the most
- 2:10:30smallest wage they can possibly get.
- 2:10:32It's modern. Day slavery.
- 2:10:35Slave labor. All the way, all the way.
- 2:10:37That's exactly what that is. Let's hear from these other
- 2:10:41guys. What are your takes on this?
- 2:10:45We had to know that at least some point the politics is going
- 2:10:48to come into it. Yeah, I think the the whole
- 2:10:52state communism and the radical left, they they they moved away
- 2:10:56from actually caring about the well-being of the working class.
- 2:10:58And guess I'll turn in all these side issues, like the LGBTQ
- 2:11:03stuff, they never were said they were for free space.
- 2:11:06If you really stop and look at it.
- 2:11:08If you stop and look at communism going all the way back
- 2:11:12to, you know, Marxist Bolshevist, it looks great on
- 2:11:16paper, but whenever you see it getting implemented, it's never
- 2:11:21been about the working class. Well, I look at it, it sounds
- 2:11:26like the Spanish revolution and Ukrainian revolution, they were
- 2:11:29different because they they actually got attacked by the
- 2:11:32state communists because they wanted to have all power to the
- 2:11:35workers, workers councils in a real way where there's no boss
- 2:11:37and it's workers councils making decisions.
- 2:11:39So they actually attacked them. They got rid of them because
- 2:11:41they meant it in the real way. So those are the ones that I
- 2:11:43refer to. There's like the left that
- 2:11:45actually was serious about it. But yeah, the state communists
- 2:11:48now, let's say they're for free speech until they get the power,
- 2:11:51then they take it away from everyone else.
- 2:11:52And like, they might end competition on a national level,
- 2:11:55but they're just crushing everybody else underneath them
- 2:11:58and like you're saying making slave labor and all this other
- 2:12:00stuff. So I mean it's a, it's a yeah,
- 2:12:03they they don't they they claim to stand for quality and all
- 2:12:05this until they get in the position and then they're taking
- 2:12:08it away from everybody else. And like, yeah, you can
- 2:12:10definitely see that with state communism.
- 2:12:12Like they have all the all the fancy stuff and then the working
- 2:12:16class got nothing. I mean, look at the crosstalk
- 2:12:18rebellion for example. They had holes in their shoes
- 2:12:20and the people were revolting. So yeah, it wasn't well off.
- 2:12:23Economically, let's say that it definitely it doesn't have its
- 2:12:27benefits. Everything can have its
- 2:12:29benefits. But you know when people of
- 2:12:33power get a hold of it and twist it around, and that's what I
- 2:12:38believe almost always happens without fail when you bring
- 2:12:43communism, socialism, Marxism or anything similar to that into
- 2:12:49the political arena. It seems like if if we look back
- 2:12:56at history, we can see that the only way this there was a
- 2:13:00solution for any of this problem is the citizens actually had the
- 2:13:04unfortunately throw their governments out in order to be
- 2:13:07able to do things. But sadly, I don't think that
- 2:13:11Americans are the same way anymore.
- 2:13:13I think people have become too comfortable.
- 2:13:15They've become desensitized and complacent.
- 2:13:18So unfortunately, I think they're going to be led to
- 2:13:21clutter. I have to say I agree with you.
- 2:13:26I I, I I can't. I can't say that that's not
- 2:13:29happening right now. Ancestral, What's your what's
- 2:13:36your feelings on this? I have my Rock Against Communism
- 2:13:44tattoo. OK, I think that says enough.
- 2:13:50Just to let everybody know, I'm very familiar with Mr.,
- 2:13:54Ancestral Satanist, Avadon Fireborne's.
- 2:13:58We don't call him Fire Born for 9.
- 2:14:00He's got a very fiery personality when you get him
- 2:14:03going. So yeah, Jake.
- 2:14:08Yeah. Excuse me?
- 2:14:14Yeah, I think, yeah. You sound like you're a little
- 2:14:24bit on the I don't know what to say moment.
- 2:14:28Well, when it comes to politics, I I try.
- 2:14:30When it comes to politics, I try to kind of steer clear of it.
- 2:14:34I hear you. I hear you.
- 2:14:35I when I first, when I first started up this channel, it was
- 2:14:39years ago. I started up as a commentary for
- 2:14:43TV shows as well as politics. I was really doing politics for
- 2:14:49a while there, and that was one of the motivators for me to
- 2:14:52really leave NSM and National Socialism as I realized I had to
- 2:14:58reform my entire channel because the whole notion of politics,
- 2:15:01everything that was going on, was literally driving me insane.
- 2:15:06And it was just, I was, it was enough was enough.
- 2:15:10I had to step back and say, OK, I'm going to rebrand my channel.
- 2:15:15What can I rebrand it about? Well, I'm going to rebrand it to
- 2:15:18what I always wanted it to be. And that was about Satanism,
- 2:15:22solidly because I had like 3 different things that I would
- 2:15:25talk about. I would talk about politics,
- 2:15:29Satanism, and then I would commentate about pop culture
- 2:15:34like movies and whatnot, movies, video games, comic books.
- 2:15:39And that's when I was like, you know, I'm just going to focus in
- 2:15:42on the Satanism and just talk about that for the most part.
- 2:15:48Yeah. When it comes to the politics as
- 2:15:51well, the politics that I'm now involved with when it comes to
- 2:15:54everything is I'm, I'm, I put out CDs, I release CDs.
- 2:16:01I'm pretty much a music company couthing productions.
- 2:16:04That couthing is Hebrew for for Gentile.
- 2:16:07It's something that they they they how they would say talk
- 2:16:10about us in the tall mud which you know.
- 2:16:15It's a derogatory term, would you say?
- 2:16:18Yeah, but I I I put it down as my company name, as a as a pride
- 2:16:23thing, you know? That's the in my opinion, that's
- 2:16:27one of the best ways to always throw it back in the face of
- 2:16:33people who wanna try to use things derogatorily.
- 2:16:37The Church Satan likes to call theistic Satanists devil
- 2:16:41worshippers as if it's a bad thing that we actually respect a
- 2:16:46very real Satan, that we that we actually practice Satanism on a
- 2:16:52literal sense that we believe in a real Satan.
- 2:16:54As a matter of fact, you know Anton Lavey, he he had something
- 2:16:58to say about this. Let's go ahead and hear his
- 2:17:01term, his words again. We feel that there's no reason
- 2:17:05why these people shouldn't just flip the coin completely over
- 2:17:09and simply call themselves what religion has clowned them for
- 2:17:12many, many years? Call them devil worshippers or
- 2:17:15disciples of evil or Satanists, of course.
- 2:17:18It's very hard for a person to hang.
- 2:17:20An uncomplimentary label on themselves.
- 2:17:25I think he hit it right on the head there.
- 2:17:28It's very difficult for most people to hang an
- 2:17:31uncomplimentary label for themselves on themselves.
- 2:17:36And you know, he tells us that we should be calling ourselves
- 2:17:40devil worshippers as well as Satanists.
- 2:17:43And so for Church of Satan to sit there and say, oh, this
- 2:17:47person is a Nazi, he's a devil worshiper and a Nazi.
- 2:17:49I've had that. And Brett can tell you, I've had
- 2:17:52Church Satan guys literally tell him that in text messages.
- 2:18:00I don't know if I have a copy of that text message I bring.
- 2:18:03It doesn't look like it. But yeah, they they've outright
- 2:18:09said that about me, where I'm nothing more than a devil
- 2:18:15worshiper and a Nazi. And why would he, as a
- 2:18:17Christian, want to associate with something like that?
- 2:18:21And Brett, can you tell us a little bit about that?
- 2:18:25Well, when they were attacking you and also coming at me
- 2:18:28because you realize that originally I was actually trying
- 2:18:32to get these folks into a a discussion, I wanted to bring
- 2:18:35them on a show and actually learn what their views are and
- 2:18:38get into the ideology a little bit.
- 2:18:40I wasn't trying to fight with them, but they got hostile with
- 2:18:43me. And then they start saying, you
- 2:18:45know who this guy is, blah, blah, blah.
- 2:18:47And then after they said all their nonsense, I said, now what
- 2:18:50do you want? An Internet cookie?
- 2:18:52Yeah, what do you want from me? So I, you know, I'm, I'm always
- 2:18:57going to be out there and I'm going to tell people flat out,
- 2:19:01you know, if you're atheistic, Satanist and Church Satan member
- 2:19:04calls you a devil worshiper, then take that as a compliment.
- 2:19:08They're telling you you are what they are, not what they wish
- 2:19:11that they were and take pride in it.
- 2:19:15You know, they want to call you a devil worshiper.
- 2:19:18Let them call you a devil worshiper.
- 2:19:21Go ahead, Brandon. I was wondering, did you guys
- 2:19:25notice as well when the Satanic Temple and all these groups that
- 2:19:29some people call pseudo saying this, you know, started
- 2:19:31marketing the whole rainbow stuff and everything does.
- 2:19:36Yeah, and. Then like anybody made a gay
- 2:19:39joke or anything, they had to be ostracized.
- 2:19:41Like, like, you think that was just trying to like expand, like
- 2:19:44marketing stuff? Or do you think they sincerely
- 2:19:46or for the whole, you know, LGBT and all that?
- 2:19:50Because they didn't seem to push all that stuff until it became
- 2:19:52this marketable thing, you know? And then all of a sudden they're
- 2:19:54acting like the corporations, you know?
- 2:19:58And The thing is, I met Lucian. Greece before.
- 2:20:03He was into Satanism. I met him when he was.
- 2:20:07He was still a Satanist. But I met him before the whole
- 2:20:10Satanic Temple thing blew up and actually became something.
- 2:20:16And it was in a bus station. I believe it was actually here
- 2:20:19in South Carolina. I was, I was coming down, I was
- 2:20:21going down to Florida to Tarpon Springs to go visit some friends
- 2:20:29and we had stopped in South Carolina.
- 2:20:31I was coming from northern Pennsylvania and it was a couple
- 2:20:36day bus trip. I mean it was a pain in the ass
- 2:20:38bus trip, but so we were at I believe a South Carolina.
- 2:20:43We could have been a North Carolina bus station.
- 2:20:46And I'm talking to this Luciferian.
- 2:20:48You know, he saw my back from that tattoo and, you know, I had
- 2:20:54just had it freshly done. And he walked up to him and we
- 2:20:57started striking up a conversation.
- 2:20:58We were having a really good conversation.
- 2:21:01And then this tall, lanky guy comes up to us out of the
- 2:21:04freaking blue and starts talking to us about, you know, how we
- 2:21:11should be more active. You know what?
- 2:21:14We thought about being more active in being activists and
- 2:21:18using our Satanism for activism and we we merged him.
- 2:21:23We spoke to him for about 5 minutes, but it was it was like
- 2:21:26a puppy or a small kid. You you pat him on the head and
- 2:21:30you send them on their way. We wanted nothing to do with it.
- 2:21:32Back then we didn't know. We were like, no, this, that's
- 2:21:36not what Satanism is about. We're not going to use our
- 2:21:39religion as a political tool. And if we had known what that
- 2:21:44guy was going, I'm pretty sure I'd.
- 2:21:46I have not spoken to that Bliss Ferry in in years.
- 2:21:49But it I'm pretty sure if we had known what he was going to turn
- 2:21:55into, what he was going to start up and get going, I'm pretty
- 2:22:00sure we would have probably beaten his ass into the dirt
- 2:22:02right there. Sounds kind of like a scenario
- 2:22:06that would be called money changers in the temple, yeah?
- 2:22:13Pretty much, pretty much. Oh, we have an individual coming
- 2:22:21in who wants to come in named Darth Thuranus.
- 2:22:29Do. You know this individual, Brett?
- 2:22:33No Knew a guy named Darth Dawkins a while back.
- 2:22:36He was a bit hectic to deal with.
- 2:22:38Don't know if it's the same person you got to.
- 2:22:41Do you have an overlay of stranger danger thing?
- 2:22:45Oh yeah, hang on, let me bring it up.
- 2:22:48Remember, my guests like to show their wee wee they think it's a
- 2:22:50Pornhub or. Something.
- 2:22:51Oh, it's bubble. It's bubble.
- 2:22:56OK, we know he's not going to do anything.
- 2:23:00Hey, what's happening? Hey, how's it going guy?
- 2:23:03Hey yeah, this is like my alternative account.
- 2:23:06OK. OK.
- 2:23:07Yeah. That would be fitting to the
- 2:23:10situation. There you go.
- 2:23:13Honestly, Actually, a lot of people don't realize that
- 2:23:16Sithism is a branch of Levian Satanism.
- 2:23:20It was created by accident. Believe it or not, George Lucas
- 2:23:26was looking for a philosophy to use as a model for Darth Vader
- 2:23:31and the Sith and Star Wars. And so he he got a hold of the
- 2:23:37Satanic Bible and he utilized the Satanic philosophy found in
- 2:23:41Levay's writings, and that became the foundational material
- 2:23:45for synthism in Star Wars movies.
- 2:23:49That's a little known fact, known bit of trivia.
- 2:23:56So so I was able to catch like the mostly the beginning up
- 2:24:01until like about 30 minutes ago. I was working.
- 2:24:05Basically, But yeah, I heard some interesting things.
- 2:24:08I guess I'm Native American. Yeah, I I see why.
- 2:24:15Like, I guess I'll start with the the comment on the the
- 2:24:20Antichrist. I I thought it was kinda
- 2:24:24interesting because like Antichrist just means anything
- 2:24:26that's not Christian. So the Muslims would be
- 2:24:30Antichrist, the the the Jews would be Antichrist.
- 2:24:33No, no, no, that's not how it is.
- 2:24:35The Antichrist is the polar opposite of the Christ, the
- 2:24:41Jesus Christ, or Yeshua. What he was representative of.
- 2:24:46So the Antichrist or the Christ was the child of God, the
- 2:24:51literal child of God. We the Antichrist is supposed to
- 2:24:56be the literal child of Satan. Well, most Satanists, especially
- 2:25:01atheistic ones, view ourselves as the literal children of the
- 2:25:06black claim, the literal children of Satan.
- 2:25:09So we are all the Antichrist. OK, kind of like a bad omen.
- 2:25:17Yeah, because of normal. Doesn't the way I take it's like
- 2:25:20if if you're not again, if you're not with me, then you're
- 2:25:22basically against me and that's kind of like.
- 2:25:32Yep, Yep, that that's about the sum of it.
- 2:25:35You've got all the good stuff. Yeah, I guess the the idea of a
- 2:25:42National Association can mix with Satan's.
- 2:25:45I don't know because I don't think, I mean, I I feel like
- 2:25:49that's a bit antithetical to the idea of nationalist socialism
- 2:25:53because First off you're you're you're you're adopting the
- 2:25:58Christian narrative and saying, well, the the questionnaire is
- 2:26:01true to begin with and then you're accepting your role as
- 2:26:04the bad guys. And I think if we're a
- 2:26:07nationalist socialist, it would be better if you adopt the the
- 2:26:11polytheistic narrative and said no, we the, the my people,
- 2:26:17whether it be Native American or Germanic, come from our gods and
- 2:26:23those gods are not evil or or not the villains and you're just
- 2:26:27vilifying us, however the. Christians vilified every other
- 2:26:31God that was not Christian and that it was especially true for
- 2:26:36the Germanic gods. So yeah, like I I think it
- 2:26:41because, for example, do you know who the Golden Dawn is?
- 2:26:45Yes, I do. So I need a.
- 2:26:47Power cable. So for those who don't know, the
- 2:26:51Golden Dawn are basically the the the Neo Nazis of Greece.
- 2:26:55And they're not Satanists. They what they follow more to
- 2:26:59the the Greek traditions like Poseidon, the Zeus are not not
- 2:27:06very went on with the Greek pantheon, but hey.
- 2:27:08Guys, I'll be right back. Yeah, but.
- 2:27:12For example the the Golden Dawn, like I was saying the Golden
- 2:27:16Dawn like the the Neo Nazis of Greece, but they're not
- 2:27:19Satanists. So they appeal to like their
- 2:27:23ancient gods from their their their culture, their people.
- 2:27:27So they appear to like Poseidon and Zeus if that's part of a
- 2:27:31Greek or Roman one. But I think if you, if you want
- 2:27:37to win, you can't let the enemy control the narrative.
- 2:27:42And I think that's it's you're shooting yourself in the foot by
- 2:27:45simply adopting the narrative of the Christian, the Christian
- 2:27:49narrative, and then proclaiming to be the villains of the
- 2:27:52narrative because that that only bolsters the Christian to think
- 2:27:55their rights. But Darth, Mr. Lucifer has a
- 2:28:00point here. There are many, many
- 2:28:01denominations of Christianity, sad to say, where they're
- 2:28:05convinced. Even if you're a part of the
- 2:28:07Abrahamic religion, but you're Islam, you're the enemy.
- 2:28:11You're the bad guy. So no matter what religion,
- 2:28:14you're going to fall into the bad guy category.
- 2:28:17The only other group that I can think of the association would
- 2:28:20be OK is Paganism. Yeah, and Satanism.
- 2:28:25One of the things about Satanism is that when Christians choose
- 2:28:31to make something a bad guy, sorry, I had to actually plug in
- 2:28:35my phone to charge because I use my phone for my webcam and my
- 2:28:40microphone. When Christians decide to
- 2:28:45demonize Pagan deities or anything like that, it
- 2:28:53immediately falls into the Satanic category.
- 2:28:55But it's not just Christians who demonize.
- 2:28:59It can also be just society in general.
- 2:29:02Now when we actually look at the whole concept of Satanism as a
- 2:29:07general concept, even pre Anton Lebay, and I'm talking about
- 2:29:12with Luciferianism, much of the philosophy, much of the
- 2:29:17concepts, no hoppers, plus much of those concepts had very much
- 2:29:26in alignment with National Socialism.
- 2:29:31National Socialism though, as a philosophy was based on heritage
- 2:29:38and nationalism and taking pride in one's own self.
- 2:29:43Well, we look at the philosophies of Christianity and
- 2:29:49it's it's averts itself. It subverts the natural self in
- 2:29:54a desire for a spiritual self to be elevated.
- 2:30:00It's it also makes that elevated spiritual self subservient in
- 2:30:05and of itself. When we look at the the Catholic
- 2:30:09priests, they wear that collar around their neck.
- 2:30:12Do you know what that collar is representative about, Darth?
- 2:30:19No, I don't. Sorry, I was drinking.
- 2:30:21Nope. No, no, I don't know actually.
- 2:30:25It's a slave collar. It's literally the Catholic
- 2:30:28Church. The clergy wears the clerical
- 2:30:32collar and the inside reference to it is that it symbolizes
- 2:30:38their slavery to God. Yeah, I'm no slave.
- 2:30:45Well, I think slavery is kind of inevitable.
- 2:30:48We're either going to be a slave to a government, slave to our
- 2:30:52husbands or wives, or slave to our children and slave to a
- 2:30:55corporation. Slavery is inevitable.
- 2:30:58Not not. It's that it's necessary, but.
- 2:31:00It's there's a difference between being a slave and being
- 2:31:04a servant to be a servant to your children, the samurai.
- 2:31:09In feudal Japan, the word samurai literally means to
- 2:31:14serve. But they were not slaves, even
- 2:31:18though they at the very at the drop of a word from their meal,
- 2:31:24they would gut themselves quietly in a corner and not
- 2:31:27utter a single complaint. You know they they did you.
- 2:31:32Know, but I think that. Slave like.
- 2:31:34As Frederick Nietzsche, this, like this is part of the the
- 2:31:37Christian slave mentality, because I'm not sure if you know
- 2:31:41these Christian nationalism, which is a bit of an oxymoron,
- 2:31:48because if you think everybody came from one enemy there, there
- 2:31:51is no an. Oxymoron.
- 2:31:53When you said the Christian Slave Mentality, you know, if
- 2:31:57you stop and think about that, it's like, wait, the Satans
- 2:32:00don't view themselves as slaves. And I just said that it's
- 2:32:04Christian Slave mentality. Well.
- 2:32:08In the sense that like they tend to give themselves to the
- 2:32:13monarchy, but the monarchy only uses the Christians.
- 2:32:18You only use this religion and God as a way to have a
- 2:32:22justification for its rule. And the Christians are none the
- 2:32:26wiser, are often willing to give them that power because deep
- 2:32:31down the Christian likes to be ruled over.
- 2:32:36They like to be slaved. Yeah, and that is definitely not
- 2:32:41Satanist Abaddon. Would you like to respond to
- 2:32:47that? How does a how does You don't
- 2:32:50want to respond to that? I can only imagine the fiery
- 2:32:54tirade you'd get there. Jake, your your take on that.
- 2:33:01How does a Satanist view service to Satan?
- 2:33:08Well, we're not. We're not slaves, and we don't
- 2:33:11grovel. We don't get down on our knees
- 2:33:14and stand upright and proud. And I'm I'm no slave to no one,
- 2:33:22please. One of the things that is very
- 2:33:26vastly different. Let's take the rights of
- 2:33:28ordainment for example. When we when we do Right of
- 2:33:32ordainment in the Catholic Church, it's customary for the
- 2:33:39person being ordained to prostate themselves on the
- 2:33:43ground. In the sign of the Cross,
- 2:33:46they're literally laying face down on the ground, Their arms
- 2:33:49are outstretched and they're prostate.
- 2:33:54When a Satanist gets ordained, I'm going to hand this over
- 2:34:00because Abaddon is one of our ordained priests.
- 2:34:03He's undergone the rite of ordainment within Satanism.
- 2:34:09Have it on, take it away. How are How are Satanists
- 2:34:12ordained? Or definitely ordained, standing
- 2:34:19on our feet, Paul. It's a recognition of the title
- 2:34:29of achievement, of of hierarchy, of where we're now.
- 2:34:35No, we don't become slaves. Slaves to our temple or slaves
- 2:34:41to Satan. We're just we're not slaves.
- 2:34:49I I find it interesting, like in in the bilbetrical tale why he
- 2:34:53does say in Rebel because it's it.
- 2:34:56He doesn't do it out of some sort of nationalistic oh, sorry.
- 2:35:00He he rebels. Because you're trying to put a
- 2:35:04poisonous idea into our heads. You you you want to lock us into
- 2:35:13a poisonous thought pattern, He goes up to Rebell.
- 2:35:21He rebelled in In the Diabolicon, which is one of our
- 2:35:26core books written by Michael Aquino, he makes it very clear
- 2:35:31that Lucifer didn't quite so much rebel as he wanted people.
- 2:35:38The other angels have a choice, Messiah or Messiah as he was
- 2:35:43later called God in the book. In the story wanted to have all
- 2:35:50the other angels blind to basic knowledge and wisdom of the
- 2:35:57universe. And Lucifer who is the Lord of
- 2:36:00Light flashed his wisdom to all the angels about the situation
- 2:36:07going on between Michael God and Lucifer.
- 2:36:12And in that moment he gave the other angels the ability to
- 2:36:20choose where they stand understanding of the situation.
- 2:36:23And this was an understanding that God didn't want them to
- 2:36:26have, and so he he didn't want them to have a choice.
- 2:36:31And so that's where the rebellion came in.
- 2:36:35And Lucifer at that point was like, OK, you know what?
- 2:36:38If you if you don't want people to have a choice, I can't be
- 2:36:42here and I'm going to up and leave.
- 2:36:46And so he left, and he gave the other angels the choice of
- 2:36:51whether they wanted to follow him or not.
- 2:36:54But the problem didn't come from them choosing to leave.
- 2:36:59The problem happened as they were leaving.
- 2:37:02God didn't want them to leave. He was losing his power over a
- 2:37:08whole third of the heavenly host, and he didn't want that to
- 2:37:13happen. So he ordered Michael and the
- 2:37:16rest of the heavenly host to pursue them.
- 2:37:18And that's where they pursued them, to the gates of the
- 2:37:21underworld, where the big the second clash between heaven and
- 2:37:26hell occurred. And this is where the sundering
- 2:37:28of the underworld into the pit of hell occurred.
- 2:37:33See, I think that some point because this is because this
- 2:37:39biblical question. I'm sorry.
- 2:37:40I hear. I hear like a microwave or
- 2:37:41something. I'm sorry, that's my furnace.
- 2:37:45OK, so because if there is contention, like there's this
- 2:37:50biblical Christian God in the contention he has against Satan
- 2:37:54in his rebellion is his loose men of power.
- 2:37:57And I think this is a dead giveaway that the Christian God
- 2:38:01that we're dealing with in this situation isn't the ultimate
- 2:38:05God. Because as the ultimate God,
- 2:38:07there is no limit to your power. You are the source of all power
- 2:38:11and and it's simply rebellion is really nothing to you.
- 2:38:16But why is this biblical God in contention with these, you know,
- 2:38:22these angels leaving, if not because it does take away from
- 2:38:26his power? Exactly.
- 2:38:29And that's the thing y'all to be off the the deity that we
- 2:38:33identify as Messiah or the Christian God is not the
- 2:38:39ultimate God. If we look in Satanism, what we
- 2:38:43would say is the true ultimate God is the universe itself.
- 2:38:48Or as a representative of that, we would say Azaz, a blind idiot
- 2:38:54God at the center of the universe.
- 2:38:58And this is a deity in Cathulianism, which is a branch
- 2:39:01of us. Lovecraftian Satanism, it's also
- 2:39:06called it's a branch of Levian Satanism.
- 2:39:11Azazoth is an uncaring God. He he's a dreaming God.
- 2:39:14He's not awake. He doesn't give a shit about
- 2:39:16anything that goes on. Is.
- 2:39:18Is. Is Is this a child of Sophia?
- 2:39:23Heard some sort like this is the child of Sophia, which she bore
- 2:39:26out of order. And then So it was an awful,
- 2:39:29foolish creation. This would have been before
- 2:39:33Sophia. This would have been before all
- 2:39:36of that. This is Lovecraft lore.
- 2:39:39So, and in this instance, Azazoth takes on a different, a
- 2:39:43different concept, a different formation.
- 2:39:46And he is an he's a creator deity, but he's an accidental
- 2:39:51creator deity. He didn't go out of his way to
- 2:39:54cause creation. What it was is he's a sleeping
- 2:39:58God, he's a dreaming God, and his dream is his dream is
- 2:40:05creation. So he sees everything all at
- 2:40:07once and the moment he wakes up. Is when all creation ceases, We
- 2:40:16go back into the void. That's it.
- 2:40:19And so he has all these beings, you can call them angels, you
- 2:40:22can call them aliens, you can call them whatever.
- 2:40:25In Lovecraft 4 that are around him constantly singing him a
- 2:40:31lullaby to keep him asleep for all eternity.
- 2:40:34So by him staying asleep, Creation and existence continues
- 2:40:43so he doesn't wake up and end all creation.
- 2:40:47But the Do you mean Lovecraft is as in the book Lovecraft with
- 2:40:52Cthulhu? Yeah.
- 2:40:55Sounds like a form of pantheism a little bit.
- 2:40:59It's been identified as that, yes.
- 2:41:01And that's akin to the whole Brahma and with the Hindus,
- 2:41:04Brahma, the night of the night of Brahma, the day of Brahma,
- 2:41:08when he wakes up everything. This actually.
- 2:41:12It may sound silly, it may sound like science fiction there
- 2:41:15Darth, but it actually it actually does.
- 2:41:18There is real world references to Cthulhu.
- 2:41:22I mean, yeah. In the Sumerian texts, but going
- 2:41:27into Japanese. I would say, I would say it's
- 2:41:31the other way around. Love card gets this inspiration
- 2:41:36from ancient, yeah. The the name was inspired, but
- 2:41:42that's why I was mentioned. Dagon was also mentioned and
- 2:41:45he's part of the Lovecraft mythos, but the whole notion of
- 2:41:49Azizoth being in the center of the universe and dreaming there
- 2:41:54is some. There's a similar story in
- 2:41:57Shintoism about creation. And in Shintoism there was a
- 2:42:04being before creation that was sleeping.
- 2:42:07He was, he was peaceful in the darkness of the void.
- 2:42:13And this was the mikaboshi, the amatsu mikaboshi.
- 2:42:19And he was just pure darkness. He was nothingness and he was
- 2:42:24happy and blissful in that nothingness.
- 2:42:27And then suddenly a couple Kami came into existence there, and
- 2:42:33their sudden presence in the Void caused all of creation.
- 2:42:37And that's where the Mikaboshi, as the Kami of Darkness, wants
- 2:42:43to undo creation so he can go back to sleep and be at peace.
- 2:42:49May I? May I have your question real
- 2:42:50quick? Before you guys go too far ahead
- 2:42:52on this is I I don't know if it's explained in this 'cause I
- 2:42:56haven't had an opportunity to read it.
- 2:42:58This sounds really fascinating to me, but technically, wouldn't
- 2:43:02this mean on a logical level, if the entity's asleep and it's
- 2:43:06dreaming of these conscious beings that are existing within
- 2:43:11a world within its mind, isn't it?
- 2:43:14As if he wakes up, these entities inside of his mind are
- 2:43:19actually him? You get what I'm.
- 2:43:21Saying that's a really interesting notion right there.
- 2:43:28How much have you read of Lovecraft's lore, Brett?
- 2:43:31Haven't had an opportunity to look at a whole lot, but all the
- 2:43:35things you've mentioned have totally fascinated me.
- 2:43:38Oh, you'd love reading HP Lovecraft.
- 2:43:41Yeah, he's in a lot of ways, he's the father of modern
- 2:43:45horror. Cosmic horror.
- 2:43:48Check him out. Check him out.
- 2:43:49He's worth it. It's definitely worth it.
- 2:43:52The closest that come was like the Stephen King's In the Mouth
- 2:43:55of Madness, which I think is more it's it's it's more
- 2:43:58Lovecraftian movie. Not sure.
- 2:44:01Have you seen it in The Map of Madness?
- 2:44:03Oh, absolutely, Sam Neal. Yeah, great movie.
- 2:44:06That's definitely that's right there in Lovecraft lore.
- 2:44:10And then there's also I mentioned recently Nicolas Cage
- 2:44:13did a a Lovecraftian movie called The Color Out of Space
- 2:44:17which is really brilliant movie. I think you do get one thing
- 2:44:22right that most, most season get and what?
- 2:44:25What is creation? What?
- 2:44:26What is reality? Because what is reality and all
- 2:44:30it is? It's just God's thinking.
- 2:44:34In the same way that the the video game reality within my my
- 2:44:39computer is done by the thinking of the.
- 2:44:41You know of the computer, the the the.
- 2:44:44The reality that we live in is simply the thinking of God.
- 2:44:48And you'll see some Christians deny the God is a mind, which I
- 2:44:53find it baffling that they'll say he's a spirit, but they'll
- 2:44:57say he's the lobotomize spirit. God, a God that has no mind, is
- 2:45:01simply a spirit, which is bizarre to me.
- 2:45:05Yeah, I've I've heard some denominations and some friends
- 2:45:09groups actually say that it doesn't make a whole lot of
- 2:45:12sense because they're going to also turn around in the next
- 2:45:16breath and say that he can communicate and intervene and do
- 2:45:20all these different things and also has his own thought
- 2:45:23process. Doesn't make a lot of sense.
- 2:45:25Yeah, because they want to turn God into some sort of
- 2:45:30unchanging. I don't know, like object.
- 2:45:35It's just. And that's that's one of the big
- 2:45:37things that Satanism is against. You'll hear about us being
- 2:45:42always against stagnation and stasis.
- 2:45:46To us, the Christian God represents stasis, being stuck
- 2:45:50in place. And that's why, you know, when
- 2:45:54we talk about him as Yalta Baov or the demiurge, the fact that
- 2:45:59he trapped humans into a clay form.
- 2:46:03Because humans, in all actuality, according to older
- 2:46:06myth, were were spiritual beings.
- 2:46:08That we were free and then he trapped us into these physical
- 2:46:12forms in order to be subservient forum.
- 2:46:15Because he just simply wanted to create something, and that
- 2:46:19creation was imperfect, it was not right, and it was not done
- 2:46:24with consent. Mr. I don't know if you ever had
- 2:46:27the opportunity to talk to Calvinist before, but they have
- 2:46:31that same viewpoint that Darth was talking about, where they
- 2:46:35say God is unchanging, he's he's not going to do anything beyond
- 2:46:39his nature. And then I asked them while they
- 2:46:41were in the room with me, I said, So are you actually
- 2:46:44stating that the God of the universe has no free will and
- 2:46:48everybody just went quiet and a couple of them bounced out?
- 2:46:51I'll just say they had technical issues but seemed to disappear
- 2:46:56on that. Yeah, I've never spoken with the
- 2:47:00Calvinist before. They do not think because you
- 2:47:03know, it's predetermined. They can't think.
- 2:47:05Everything's predetermined. And of course they're the only
- 2:47:08ones that get to go to heaven because they've been elected
- 2:47:11from the get go. So lucky.
- 2:47:13Who elected them? Who elected?
- 2:47:15Them. I didn't cast my vote, Jake.
- 2:47:19Did you cast a vote on anybody to go to heaven?
- 2:47:21No, not at all. I didn't get the memo on it
- 2:47:24either. Apparently they want me to go
- 2:47:27someplace else. Yeah, and who wants to spend
- 2:47:29eternity singing praises to Yahweh Anyways, forever and
- 2:47:33ever, you're singing praises. You know, Jake, I I've, I've
- 2:47:36told you before a lot of the things you say you sound very
- 2:47:39satanic and everything. So I mean, if you want to come
- 2:47:43join us down in diss you're you're, you're more than welcome
- 2:47:46to. I try to liken it, but you ever
- 2:47:50seen that movie? What?
- 2:47:51You ever seen that movie? What dreams may come with Robin?
- 2:47:54Love it, love it. Love it.
- 2:47:56Love it, Love it. Honestly, that I used that movie
- 2:47:59as a reference to help people understand my understanding of
- 2:48:04the afterlife. That it is what you make it.
- 2:48:09That's beautiful. I guess.
- 2:48:12Absolutely love that movie. I guess we use the, the topic
- 2:48:15of, you know this slide because you guys we talked about earlier
- 2:48:18about reincarnation and the the Native Americans say he didn't
- 2:48:22believe in reincarnation. You do right.
- 2:48:24Yes, I do believe in reincarnation.
- 2:48:27Obviously not all of us are always going to share the same
- 2:48:30beliefs. And that's one of the other
- 2:48:32interesting things about Satanism is we have a central
- 2:48:36belief system, especially here in STFS Satanic fillion society.
- 2:48:41We have a central core philosophy, which is Levay's
- 2:48:44central philosophy that we can all get behind.
- 2:48:49But as individuals, as individuals, we are free to have
- 2:48:57our own differing opinions, Abaddon said.
- 2:49:01That you know, flat out he does not believe in reincarnation,
- 2:49:04that they that souls who would come back.
- 2:49:07They're not perfect and he's seeking to move to a higher
- 2:49:11elevation. He said the void, which I
- 2:49:14thought was interesting. The void, that is one.
- 2:49:18That's something that a lot of people refer to it as.
- 2:49:22Well, I would say that's you ever heard of Spiritual
- 2:49:26Annihilation? Well, you know, I am Garth.
- 2:49:31Yeah, yeah, I was, I was about to say Brett's talked about that
- 2:49:35before, so. To become one with a void is to
- 2:49:39be spiritually annihilated, because at the void there is no
- 2:49:43coherence. There is no spirits.
- 2:49:48It's the. Only thing.
- 2:49:49That makes logical sense to me on that concept because you hear
- 2:49:53a lot of people say that God is omnipresent, He's everywhere at
- 2:49:57all times. So if the if biblically you look
- 2:50:01at it and it says you are not going to you're going to be
- 2:50:05forgotten by God. Well, the only way that can
- 2:50:07happen is if you don't exist. Yeah, to be annihilated.
- 2:50:14And so when he said that that this was the reward, like one
- 2:50:19that's kind of depends on your understanding of the void.
- 2:50:23Do you really want to be annihilated?
- 2:50:25I don't think that's the reward, but I think that's kind of
- 2:50:29telling. In in Satanism in STS we we have
- 2:50:35the we follow Cathulianism to some degree.
- 2:50:38One of the big things about STS is we have we acknowledge so
- 2:50:42many denominations of Levian Satanism, the vampiric
- 2:50:46denominations, the pre 1975 Levianism, Sithism.
- 2:50:51But we also have Satianism and Cathulianism.
- 2:50:55And Cathulianism is very interesting because it's when we
- 2:50:59get to Cathulianism that we come to our end times prophecy and we
- 2:51:04believe that Cthulhu from the love Crack mythos has been
- 2:51:07selected by Satan to be his final form.
- 2:51:10It's the last shape that he will take and he's going to come in
- 2:51:15that form to wipe out all of the earth and it's not done out of
- 2:51:21malice. He's not killing everybody out
- 2:51:23of malice but set them free from their from their clay form the
- 2:51:28form that Yalde BAE off establish him And yeah.
- 2:51:35And Johnny Dredges also pointed out another branch that we
- 2:51:38recognize it wasn't created by Anton Lavey but it's definitely
- 2:51:42something that we acknowledge within STS as a satanic
- 2:51:46denomination. That's draconianism.
- 2:51:48So thank you Johnny. He is our Tennessee Grotto
- 2:51:51Master I. Was sure I was going to say on
- 2:51:53the reincarnation, but before we get too far ahead, I think that
- 2:51:57there could actually be a a logical scientific, a point for
- 2:52:03that because they claim that we're in a contained universe
- 2:52:06and everything around us, including ourselves as energy.
- 2:52:10And you would think that our our energy would go back into the
- 2:52:13universe and then reimburse into other life.
- 2:52:17It seems like that could be something very scientific and
- 2:52:20possible not like some kind of dream or often story land.
- 2:52:25You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, definitely.
- 2:52:29That's that makes sense. I understand.
- 2:52:33I mean, I think it's definitely because like as Luferser said,
- 2:52:36like earlier on he said like not only can you be possessed by
- 2:52:40demons, but it was by angels and this also includes the ghosts of
- 2:52:43another individual. So technically, that's a
- 2:52:46reincarnation. I've seen that first hand.
- 2:52:49There's two people in this room with me.
- 2:52:52Or not two other people. It's me and my girly, and we've
- 2:52:56seen that first hand were a ghost person that we knew, or at
- 2:53:03least I knew possessed the living body.
- 2:53:07And just like a demon, they were going through the whole stages
- 2:53:10of possession, Oppression. What?
- 2:53:14What's the stages of possession? Infestation, oppression, and
- 2:53:21then possession. It was going right through that.
- 2:53:26And it wasn't a demon. It was not a demon.
- 2:53:29It was a ghost. And yeah, it was.
- 2:53:36Pretty crazy. Yeah, because.
- 2:53:39Another thing too, you'd probably have to theorize that
- 2:53:43ghosts and spirits are made of some form of energy.
- 2:53:46It's the only way that one could probably claim, theoretically
- 2:53:50that they connect with the physical body.
- 2:53:52You see what I mean? Hopefully I didn't get too crazy
- 2:53:55on that. No, no, actually there's
- 2:53:56scientific evidence that supports that.
- 2:54:00There's been recent studies, I forget by whom.
- 2:54:05I've seen the studies mentioned online in in different things.
- 2:54:10One of the studies was it was an EMF camera.
- 2:54:14Now, what an EMF camera does is it literally visualizes the
- 2:54:20electromagnetic fields around certain things, and what it can
- 2:54:24do is literally see the electromagnetic field emanating
- 2:54:29from a human body. So what if people don't know
- 2:54:34about this around us? Our bodies have this weird aura
- 2:54:40of electromagnetic energy and it's one of the things that you
- 2:54:45can feel it. If you cup your hands together,
- 2:54:48you feel a weird, strange, cool like ball between your hands and
- 2:54:54that's that's one of the things there.
- 2:54:59Don't they explain that? They don't.
- 2:55:01They explain that one of the reasons why it's so difficult
- 2:55:05that some people will have the ability to adapt to higher
- 2:55:09frequencies or lower frequencies.
- 2:55:11Or they can detect things. If you ever felt like someone
- 2:55:15staring at you when you weren't looking at them and you could
- 2:55:18feel like the eyes in the back of your head, it's believed that
- 2:55:22that's because when there's that laser focused on you, their
- 2:55:28energy field is interfering with your energy field.
- 2:55:31And it works sort of like an early detection system for your
- 2:55:36body and whatnot. So you feel like the eyes on the
- 2:55:38back of your head and you might turn around, be like, who's
- 2:55:42looking at me or something or what's there?
- 2:55:48And these cameras, they'll set them up.
- 2:55:52And they did this in an ER unit where they were filming people
- 2:55:58who were brought in on trauma with these cameras who were
- 2:56:02being worked. And that what they were hoping
- 2:56:04to catch is as the person passed away, what happens to this
- 2:56:10electromagnetic field that our bodies generate.
- 2:56:14And in a few instances, they caught a very unique phenomenon
- 2:56:19utilizing these cameras. And that is what appeared to be
- 2:56:23a human shape literally lifting out of the body.
- 2:56:30Now this is not something that they could see with their normal
- 2:56:32eyes. They couldn't really see this
- 2:56:35with clear cameras. They couldn't see it with
- 2:56:38anything else but these electromagnetic cameras that the
- 2:56:41that these people were using caught this phenomenon I believe
- 2:56:45on at least two instances. The rest of the instances you
- 2:56:49would see either the field just fade out or literally disperse
- 2:56:56around them. But on at least two of the
- 2:56:59instances, maybe more, they literally saw this field almost
- 2:57:04coal lengths coalesced into a human like shape and lift up out
- 2:57:10of the body. What does that sound like to you
- 2:57:12guys? That's wild, our friend Mr.
- 2:57:15Koofi, and he looks like he's getting tired over there.
- 2:57:18Did you? Know we're about to ramp us up
- 2:57:20here next. Did you know they?
- 2:57:21Did you know they hand out audio tracks of my voice in order to
- 2:57:25cure insomnia patients? That's true.
- 2:57:29They did what? I said they hand out audio
- 2:57:32tracks of my voice to insomnia patients for cure.
- 2:57:38OK, it's a joke, all right? Well, we're going to go ahead
- 2:57:44and we're going to wrap this up. Darth, thank you for joining us.
- 2:57:47You know, jumping in on this. I also want to give a shout out
- 2:57:51to to Brandon, who joined us later on as well as Avadon
- 2:57:58Fireborn, Ancestral Satanist, our Florida Grotto Master.
- 2:58:03And I want to say thank you to Jake Klasky.
- 2:58:06It took a lot for him to come on here, because I can imagine
- 2:58:09you're not you're not a guy who really wants to put your face
- 2:58:12out there too much anymore, are you, Drake?
- 2:58:15Not, yeah, you're absolutely right, Not really.
- 2:58:17But I am putting out music with my music music line so.
- 2:58:23How do I go about hearing some of your music?
- 2:58:25I love music and I do the radio. I wouldn't mind hearing some of
- 2:58:29your material. Well, I I I have satanic radio
- 2:58:33on Spotify and I go by the name of Braxis Satanis and I play a
- 2:58:37lot of black metal mixed with some death metal.
- 2:58:39But I'll throw in some some pretty I'll throw in a rap song
- 2:58:43here and there to change things up and cause yeah, I like you, I
- 2:58:47love music. I've been a guest on your show a
- 2:58:50couple times, so it's it's pretty cool to have you on on
- 2:58:53our show here. I appreciate it.
- 2:58:56Yep. And we would definitely
- 2:58:57appreciate you coming on. It's pretty awesome.
- 2:59:01Really nice meeting you. I wish I could have said that to
- 2:59:04the other guy as well. That was in here.
- 2:59:06Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:59:09So we're going to wrap this up here.
- 2:59:12And so once again, I'm going to point out to people as a final
- 2:59:17disclaimer, thank you all for joining this show tonight.
- 2:59:21We appreciate it very much so and OOP, hang on.
- 2:59:29It's me. Yeah, it's you.
- 2:59:34It's not supposed to be you, though.
- 2:59:36It's supposed to be me. Thank you all for joining us.
- 2:59:43Thank you all for joining us tonight.
- 2:59:44We appreciate it. We appreciate all of our guests
- 2:59:47and we appreciate all of our viewers tonight.
- 2:59:51Once again, the Satanic Thulian Society does not promote hate
- 2:59:56were violence to anybody. We utilize the term fool as a
- 3:00:01representation of reaching our highest personal selves.
- 3:00:06We utilize term as a form of Zephyrine, as Sedians might say,
- 3:00:13to become something more than ourselves, to reach our highest
- 3:00:18possible goals in life, and to become the best that we can be.
- 3:00:24I encourage everybody out there, Satanist or not, to take this
- 3:00:28under consideration and to think about your own personal life,
- 3:00:32where you're going, your own personal hang ups and what has
- 3:00:36held you back and how you might be able to change that.
- 3:00:41The term tool simply means to reach your furthest self.
- 3:00:45So I want to say thank you to all to everybody and I want to
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