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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, June 15 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jack Strike with ashl and b Into Jags.
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  Speaker 1: Stride starts right now. But even if I'm out on
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  Speaker 1: the sideline, I'm watching them throw the different receivers. It's
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  Speaker 1: just the rotation of the ball, the time, and the
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  Speaker 1: way he's putting it at away from everybody. It's just
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  Speaker 1: insane to see that so early in the quarterback. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about coming to the the league, you know, with
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  Speaker 1: so much high hopes, and he's proving it. You know.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I'm so excited for him. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: the things that I've been seeing the improvement, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: was the patients. You know, I'm starting to see that
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  Speaker 1: more now, you know. Uh, you know, if he scrambling
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  Speaker 1: out the pocket, he trying to make a play, he
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  Speaker 1: letting things developed, He letting receivers get open, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what it takes. You know. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of great scrambling quarterbacks who can still in plays, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and you know some of the best in the lead
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  Speaker 1: to do it. And you start to see your quarterback
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  Speaker 1: doing himself be have they're stay in played, letting the
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  Speaker 1: receivers get open to make plays. That's awesome. I love
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  Speaker 1: saying in that I want that guy to be my
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  Speaker 1: personal hype coach and just follow me around and cheer
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  Speaker 1: me on. Quarterback Shaquille Griffin praising the young quarterback Trevor Lawrence,
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  Speaker 1: who had a heck of a day in the last
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  Speaker 1: day of mandatory Mini camp. Welcome in Jaguars Drive time,
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  Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan, John Hoosier and Bucky Brooks with us this week.
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  Speaker 1: We are honored. Unfortunately, JP shatter because my personal hype coad.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not the same thing. No, you could call
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  Speaker 1: Shaquille and he might, you know, help it out. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: he would, but JP is not kidding. But hey, Bucky Brooks, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, we are very lucky to have You've been
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  Speaker 1: here today and yesterday watching mandatory Mini camp. Tell us
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  Speaker 1: about the first impressions. Have the chance to watch the team.
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  Speaker 1: The first impressions really impressed with just overall physicality in
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  Speaker 1: terms of just the way they look. When you hear
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  Speaker 1: Urban talk about a bigger, faster, stronger team and then
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  Speaker 1: you go out in the first observation, I made him
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  Speaker 1: a notse know, fat guys, this is a team that
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  Speaker 1: look size wise, they look like a high end NFL team.
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  Speaker 1: The big guys up front look like they're stout and sturdy.
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  Speaker 1: The guys on the edges are long and ranging. And
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  Speaker 1: so the first thing that you have to do when
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  Speaker 1: you think about building a team that eventually becomes a champion,
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  Speaker 1: they have to look the part this team. Eventually, they
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  Speaker 1: at least looked the part on the Do you think
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  Speaker 1: that will eventually morph a little bit with urban And
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  Speaker 1: this is more his blueprint because this is how he recruits,
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  Speaker 1: how he looks, and that over time you might see
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  Speaker 1: kind of a deviation. But some exceptions to the rule. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I wondered, because one thing he's always talked about is
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  Speaker 1: like sports performance and and and he consistently hammers bigger, faster, stronger.
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  Speaker 1: And so when you look at no fat guys, and
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  Speaker 1: I think it really stood up. When you look at
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line watching them move around, they moved like
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  Speaker 1: a high end offensive line. Like the backups. Everyone is moving,
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  Speaker 1: everyone is running. So he certainly is already putting his
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  Speaker 1: stamp on the team absolutely. Today was the last day
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  Speaker 1: of mandatory mini camp. Summer break is approaching quickly as
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  Speaker 1: we get into big things. Big thing one is Trevor's timing.
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  Speaker 1: Taking limited reps last week especially and yesterday as well.
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  Speaker 1: We saw some more reps today. But taking that tweek teams,
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  Speaker 1: if we had to go, we could have went there
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  Speaker 1: being trainer. You're being a little back. If we had
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  Speaker 1: to go, we could have went there being our trainers
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  Speaker 1: and and Shoddy are being a little cautious because right now,
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  Speaker 1: when you're a month out hamstrings, you yank a hamstring,
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  Speaker 1: now you're gonna miss early part of training camp. So
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  Speaker 1: we're just being cautious. That's that one muscle that you know,
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  Speaker 1: you guys have all seen it, like I have you pull,
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  Speaker 1: you pull a hamstring at this point, Um, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: miss all your summer conditioning. So we're being somewhat conservative
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  Speaker 1: on it. But he actually could play a game if
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  Speaker 1: you had to. Big thing to the lineup. We're looking
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  Speaker 1: at defense here. The head coach gave us some and
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  Speaker 1: sign on what this three four hybrid whatever you want
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  Speaker 1: to call it, what it will look like. We all
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  Speaker 1: know it's gonna look a little creative. It's a three four.
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  Speaker 1: He's an outside linebacker, so he's still a linebacker, but
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  Speaker 1: it's a little bit different position. But it's uh Laurente
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  Speaker 1: and uh ca Levan. It's that position, so it's really
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  Speaker 1: a sam linebacker that also rushes. So it's a three
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  Speaker 1: four verses four four three talking about calevan Chase on there.
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  Speaker 1: And finally, big thing three is the last stretch. This
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  Speaker 1: was the last day of mandatory mini camp. And the
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  Speaker 1: big thing here, guys is we've talked about the past
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  Speaker 1: few shows, is this has been nearly a hundred percent participation,
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  Speaker 1: especially in a voluntary offseason. We're seeing it around the league.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the case for everyone, Bucky, but it's promising
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  Speaker 1: that everyone has been here and you you haven't had
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  Speaker 1: to bring your checklist out and ask who's here and
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  Speaker 1: who's not here. Yeah, I think it's the product of
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  Speaker 1: a young team. So you have a lot of young guys.
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  Speaker 1: They don't know anything differently than the way this program
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  Speaker 1: is doing around, which is very collegial like in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the way they're operating, where they're going about doing business.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's very optimistic. Like I'm optimistic because everyone
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  Speaker 1: is there that they're gonna notice system and so when
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  Speaker 1: you get the training camp, you're gonna hit the ground running.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think if you're a Jackwars fan, you
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  Speaker 1: should be encouraged that everyone is here and it looks
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  Speaker 1: like this team is really really coming together well Shell.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever I get a new boss, I show up on
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  Speaker 1: time for the next couple of months. It's not that surprising.
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  Speaker 1: It's not usually my AMO. But when our friend Patrick
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  Speaker 1: Havanaugh took over the department, I was here for a
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  Speaker 1: few months and just a few months kidding aside. The
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  Speaker 1: there is a when it's when there's change, you're on
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  Speaker 1: your best behavior, and that makes sense. But even beyond that,
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  Speaker 1: players know that it's important new defensive coordinator, new offensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: new head coach. It's important for even the veterans, for
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  Speaker 1: the Brandon Lender, for the A j Can to be
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  Speaker 1: here and understand what's going on. I don't necessarily expect
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  Speaker 1: hund percent attendance next offseason for a veteran of that,
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  Speaker 1: uh Andre, But for this year. I've always said it's
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  Speaker 1: very important for young players and for players in new
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  Speaker 1: systems to be here for the learning part of it.
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  Speaker 1: I I just hear his bucket a little bit. I
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  Speaker 1: think I'm not so sure the on field what they're
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  Speaker 1: actually learning and running a rep is that key. But
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  Speaker 1: for gathering the information I don't know when you do it,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't do it here, if if if you're
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  Speaker 1: in a new system, or if you're a rookie or
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  Speaker 1: a second year player. Yeah, I understand what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: The learning has to take place here. The development has
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  Speaker 1: to take place on the grass and for your young
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  Speaker 1: players is very very important. Veterans. It's hard sometimes like
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  Speaker 1: to get those guys to come and be attendees, but
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  Speaker 1: the good teams kind of have their guys always around.
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  Speaker 1: And because of the location Jacksonville, the weather is nice. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about having the best facilities and sports performers.
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  Speaker 1: What you want to do is incentivize the players to
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  Speaker 1: be around and I think you can work out deals
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  Speaker 1: with the veterans are here. They're working, but you're not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily wearing them out. And I think we saw some
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  Speaker 1: of that mandatory minicamp where they were on the field
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  Speaker 1: doing individual drills, but maybe they weren't all participating in
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  Speaker 1: the team drills. As long as you have them around
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  Speaker 1: it everyone's kind of moving in the right direction. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a positive and and we mentioned this in
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  Speaker 1: our Jaguars repporter his podcast Buck. He was also on
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  Speaker 1: yesterday um, I wonder I will be fascinated to see
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  Speaker 1: next offseason what Urban does with these ten days. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily the mini camp days, the three but every
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  Speaker 1: time he spoke he said that he talked about no
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  Speaker 1: winners and losers. He wasn't complaining about it, but you
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  Speaker 1: sort of know from Urban being on the field when
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  Speaker 1: there's not a winner a loser, it's sort of counterintuitive.
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  Speaker 1: So I wonder what he's going to do if you'll
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  Speaker 1: change anything next year, if you'll say, well, look there's
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  Speaker 1: no winners and losers, so let's make this more about teaching.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that, but you could
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  Speaker 1: certainly tell Bucky that when he was talking about the
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  Speaker 1: no winners and losers, he came back to it every time.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't really like being in footballers that winner a loser. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's hard, but I think also for him,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's always coach to the collegiate level, so
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  Speaker 1: this would be a due uivalent of spring ball. Well,
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  Speaker 1: in spring football you have pads on, you compete. It
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  Speaker 1: ultimately culminates in a spring game. You don't have that
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  Speaker 1: here in O t A S. I think the good
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  Speaker 1: thing Darren Bevill Brian Schottenheimer, Um, even Nick Sorenson. They
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  Speaker 1: come from the Seattle program where competition is a big
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  Speaker 1: part of it. I think he will find a way
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  Speaker 1: to infuse some competition while still keeping it out of
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  Speaker 1: developmental phase. You mentioned that competition. I thought today was
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  Speaker 1: the most competitive that we've seen in this offseason. And
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  Speaker 1: the funniest part is you're looking at the kicking competition
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  Speaker 1: that all of a sudden came up yesterday and I
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  Speaker 1: caught myself tallying field goals today. I was like, what
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  Speaker 1: am I doing? But this is something It was smart
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  Speaker 1: because urban said that was that was real. That was competition.
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  Speaker 1: It really was, And yeah, it's it's something that we
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  Speaker 1: didn't think would be a competition. But you you caught
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  Speaker 1: yourself looking at Josh Lambele and wondering will he be
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  Speaker 1: the starting kicker in this upcoming season. Well, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's up in the air. I'm not sure. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the coach would tell you everything's up in the air. Realistically,
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  Speaker 1: is the quarterback up in the air. We'll see. But
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  Speaker 1: I think the kicker the Roses has an NFL pedigree.
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  Speaker 1: He's been in All Pro or Pro Bowl, whatever it is,
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think that's necessarily given that Josh Lamb,
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  Speaker 1: but as good as he has been, is necessarily the
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  Speaker 1: kicker next year. Now, I think, as you talked about,
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  Speaker 1: when you have a new boss, everybody has to kind
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  Speaker 1: of reapply for their jobs and earn their spot. And
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  Speaker 1: if Urban is going to stick to the premise of
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  Speaker 1: this is a meritocracy, guys have to earn it, and
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  Speaker 1: so you want to put a little pressure on Josh
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  Speaker 1: Nimble to win the job, to make sure that he
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  Speaker 1: is superior to Audre Rois in in camp. We'll see
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  Speaker 1: if it works out. But I do like the competitive
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  Speaker 1: nature because as you were sitting there telling them up,
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  Speaker 1: I also was paying attention to the number of kicks
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  Speaker 1: that went through the operators, tying it in with the competition,
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  Speaker 1: I think the good news for Jaguars fans this was
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  Speaker 1: the most competitive day, spirit of day, and I thought
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  Speaker 1: this was Trevor Lawrence's best day. Uh. And I know
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  Speaker 1: we talked about it. I think he's a big thing
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  Speaker 1: one at least track of the big thing Shelenn. But
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a The last couple of days have been
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  Speaker 1: I went into this week not sure what we knew
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  Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrences and a quarterback quick and I get
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  Speaker 1: we still done that much. But here's Shaquille Griffin talking
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  Speaker 1: about what he's talking about, which is how he's getting it,
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  Speaker 1: how the ball comes out of his hand differently. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Shakie Griffin has to say that right now.
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  Speaker 1: He could have found something different to say about Trevor
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence if he wasn't really feeling that. And then today
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  Speaker 1: you saw armed talent wise and vision wise and timing wise.
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  Speaker 1: Why this kid was drafted number one. It was the
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  Speaker 1: best he has looked so far. You know, John, when
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  Speaker 1: you're looking at the franchise quarterback where Todd pick every
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  Speaker 1: day and then and prit and you just want to
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  Speaker 1: see the wild factor. You want you want to see
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  Speaker 1: a handful of throws that you're like, wow, that's that's
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  Speaker 1: what may separate him from others. And we saw that today.
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  Speaker 1: We saw the bad show of fade where he hit
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  Speaker 1: the slot fade and he put it right over the
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  Speaker 1: ear of the defendant. When we saw him come back
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  Speaker 1: and put a couple of the balls where you put
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  Speaker 1: it right in the right location and throwing out with
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  Speaker 1: the velocity to get it there in this time of year.
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  Speaker 1: That's not always a given. No, it's it's not a given.
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  Speaker 1: And as we've talked about, quarterbacks going from college to
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  Speaker 1: pros have to learn the new open in terms of
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  Speaker 1: open is a tight window and you have to really
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  Speaker 1: put a premium on location. And he was really paying
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  Speaker 1: the corners like an MLB picture, and I think that
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  Speaker 1: is really encouraging. You saw the difference between what I
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  Speaker 1: would say good and great when you look at the
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  Speaker 1: arm talent between Trevor Lawrence and the rest of quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: on the field. And I think this significant tu Shlen
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  Speaker 1: two weeks ago, I think it was when we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about Trevor and his his soil called rough day. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he's in the red zone. I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 1: technically red zone they're working in today, but he did
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  Speaker 1: a lot of good things with a compacted field near
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  Speaker 1: the end zone. That should not that he needs that
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  Speaker 1: much confidence, but that should give him confidence in an
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  Speaker 1: area going forward of Okay, I was better here than
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  Speaker 1: I was two weeks ago. It was I us gonna
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  Speaker 1: get it excited about may practices or gene practice land,
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  Speaker 1: but this one was different. This one was kind of
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  Speaker 1: cool to say It was just perfect. It was the
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  Speaker 1: exact way you wanted to end mandatory minicamp going into
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  Speaker 1: summer break, him having his best day of the off season,
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  Speaker 1: and really just decisiveness of it during that red zione period.
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  Speaker 1: Two touchdowns to Philip door Set. It was automatic. It
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  Speaker 1: was a difference from last week. Look, look it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a huge difference in terms of just hearing
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  Speaker 1: the reports of like the red zone area and maybe
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  Speaker 1: some of the hesitancy, uh, some of the turnovers that
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  Speaker 1: may have occurred, and what happens for young quarterbacks. You
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  Speaker 1: have to understand that the game quickens up in the
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  Speaker 1: red zone, tighter window, the field is really condensed, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of bodies there, longer bodies, and maybe you're used
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  Speaker 1: to in college, and so you have to throw with touch,
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  Speaker 1: timing and anticipation, and you also have to be comfortable
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  Speaker 1: fitting the ball into the mailbox, like the really really
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  Speaker 1: small windows, and so it requires a level of precision
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  Speaker 1: that maybe you didn't necessarily have to have consistently in college.
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  Speaker 1: He quickly made the adjustment, and some of those throws
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  Speaker 1: were wild throws because he puts it in there. Bucky's
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  Speaker 1: throwing out some scouting terms today. That's fitting into the
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  Speaker 1: timing touch timing in anticipation. They isn't here for he
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  Speaker 1: Changing it up on you this week. Coming off the
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  Speaker 1: field from mandatory minicamp, the man is showing the white board,
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  Speaker 1: and you know exactly what that means. It is time
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  Speaker 1: for Ashal nask I warn Bucky we have some fun
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  Speaker 1: around here. It's not just Ted hater hater over here.
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  Speaker 1: As number one, we had a lot of answers. I
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  Speaker 1: would say today coming off the field, figured some things out.
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  Speaker 1: What's the question you will go into summer break with? Now?
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  Speaker 1: What do you still want to know about this team,
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  Speaker 1: coaching roster, how this is gonna work? Will they win
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  Speaker 1: a few games? Jehan oser Um a little quickens because
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to over emphasize it. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious where I'm Bucky to get to change it
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  Speaker 1: looking into him right, I am curious where Tim Tebow
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  Speaker 1: will fit, what his role will be, uh And I
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  Speaker 1: think we will start finding that out in training camp
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: more than we found it out right now. There wasn't
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: really a whole lot to discern between a lot of positions,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: and as Darryl Bebel said to day, I think it
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: was there's a limit what you're gonna find out about
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: any tight end during this time because it's receiver and
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: offensive linement. I think whenever the pads go on and
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: you start seeing live action, how he can handle that,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I think is when you start finding out about Tim No.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's a big question obviously when when you
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: look at him compared to the other guys, the other
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: guys are more experienced. Um, he's trying to figure it out.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: When you watch the contact and those things. He has
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: his wrists all taped up and and and trying to
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: get used to the physicale How long does it take
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: him to get used to doing some of the dirty
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: work of the position that is required. All right, all right,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: so here we go. So we got who is QB?
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Two page? Here great minds thinking like who's the backup quarterback?
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: We talked about competition. Which one is going to be
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: the Guy's gonna be? Garner minsho who we've seen you
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: started a handful of games where it's gonna be c. J.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Bethard was also started games out in San Francisco. You
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: just don't want you don't know which one is going
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: to be the guy when you look at these guys
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: on the field, Garner miss who has his moments? M
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: C J. Bethword better, But that is going to be
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the thing that plays out in the preseason games. Who
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: is going to be the backup quarterback to Trevor Lawrence
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: to Presuma starter. I'll put you on the spot, Gardner Minshew,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: was it twenty games he's played? Can you keep him
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: as the backup? And what I mean is a guy
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: who is used to being the starter and has starters
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: competing persona. I mean he's a starter vibe normally like
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: normally like you have to know the temperature in the
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: room in a quarterback room. Is he going to be
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: a support of backup quarterback or is he always going
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: to pine for the which is something we can't and
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: that's something that we can know. I would say it's
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: it's very hard to expect the guy who has been
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: the starter for parts and most of his first two
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: years in the season today I kind of give way
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: to Trevor Lawrence and to be the ultimate supporter. I
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: think that it's hard. Where C. J. Beth's has been
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: the backup quarterback, he kind of knows, he knows he
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: was brought in here for that, you know he knows
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: his role. That will be a fascinating question really, especially
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: with the emphasis that head coach Urban Mara puts on
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: loving that competitive personality and that competitive nature. He urges
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: it and then Gardner goes and delivers it. I just
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I see both sides of it, and he will be
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: analyzed for that per se. You're not analyzed from the meeting.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: It's can he once it's over with, is that his
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: role for twenty weeks? And if it's not, it's not necessary.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily him a bad guy, not at all.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: It's just more I'm a QB one. Yeah, And we
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: can talk about it, but in full transparency and honesty.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: It's a very competitive environment for everybody on the team
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: except the quarterback position. Most teams will tell you, ay,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: the QB one is by himself. That you don't bring
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: in guys that can kind of threaten him and challenging.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: We've seen that play out in bad ways in other situations,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: and so as a coaching staff, you have to really
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: examine who is going to be the most comfortable guy
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence behind him, the guy that he's not
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: gonna have to worry about the guy that he can
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: confide a lot of answers, a lot of questions. Alright, questions. Yeah.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Hence Ashlin asked number two, all right, Bucky, you've been
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: here two days, you've seen two practices. What or who
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: was the biggest standout of mandatory minicamp? Yeah, alright, it's
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: really easy and reason we're not even challenging over here
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: because now we have single digits. Travis at the end
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: was the most impressive today. To me, he was the
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: most impressive part of it because we've heard Urban talk
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: about the need for big plays, explosive place and you
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: saw him deliver some of that. And because he is
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: look an impact player potentially as an air back. We
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: saw him go out, We saw a lot of motions
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and shifting put him on the outside. People laughed and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: snickerd early on and rookie mini camp when he was
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: playing wide receiver. When't you kind of see the vision crystallizing.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: You can see where he can be an impact player.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: To me, he was the most impressive. I feel guilty
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: for two reasons. One is that this this answer is
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: so much better than Bucky's and Buck he's a guest,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: so I But secondly, it's such an easy target. I
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: thought the biggest story to me of Mini Camp was
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: today's effort about Trevor Lawrenson. I know we've already talked
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: about it. Um, I mean way to take the easy.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I mean like he already the whole eight block talking
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: about sixteen. You go right back in my world. Easy.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: If it's a three inch, take it it's it's I
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: was not competitive and didn't win very much when I
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: was young. Everything you wanted to see out of him,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I never doubt he was gonna be good. And I'm
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: not saying this is it is any sort of a
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: statement on how he's going to be this year. But
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I felt better watching him today that all of the
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: things you thought he was going to be the physical
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: tool stuff I was going to translate and it was
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: cool to see it at the end. So I thought,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: you know, easy, I'll pat myself in the back. Nice answer, John, Yeah,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: very nice, John. Just take the layup. Had a great day.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Put it out. You know i'aying you put it out.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: We don't give you give me. We're gonna challenge you. Now.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: You've only been here to practices, but I know you
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: stay up to date on this team. All right, who
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: would you? That's not the right question. Who could be
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: someone that people would be surprised makes this team? It
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: is a nine man roster right now. Surprised, So it's hard.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: So what I had, I'm gonna switch up. Who would Yeah,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: you look at this final fifty three man roster and
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you're like, Cash, I don't even know I'm gonna and
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, And I'm gonna say this without
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: even knowing if he's going to advance beyond the trial stages.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Lakwan tread Will alright making the team.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: And the reason why Lakwan tread Will is interesting to
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: me is one we talked about this in the Draft.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Five Star Recruits, Big schools. LaQuan tred Will was a
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: five star recruit from Chicago Urban Mars certainly had to
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: entertain and know where you fit in the recruiting order.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: He comes out and you see him. He looks like
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: a pro receiver, big body, in shape, fit, called the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: ball really really well. And so after you get past
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: the first three receivers d J. Chark, Labisco Chinault, Marvin Jones,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: it's kind of wide open for him to have an
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: opportunity to make this team, and so I'm looking for
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: that fourth guy that can come in and play and
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: maybe play a role. I think laquantra Well may have
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to kind of slither in and kind of
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: get into the back door. Yet I'm always bad at
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: this answer because I'm never sure what constitutes a surprise. Um,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I guess I would be a little surprised if Tebow
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: makes it, and I don't. I kind of don't think
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: he will. So it's a bad answer. Um, I'm gonna
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: go I'll accept the l Bucky has won this, uh so,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: But so I will answer by answering sort of a
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: different question. I will I would not be surprised Walker
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Little is going to make the team. I would not
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: be surprised if he pushes for a starting driving training camp,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: and maybe it wouldn't be in training camp per se
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: that it happens. But it feels like he might be
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: good enough at a position that looks locked meaning right
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: tackle joe On Taylor, left tackle Cam Robinson. At some
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: point during the season. It feels like he might push
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and start over one of those guys. I'm not sure
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: which yet, but there's just that vibe around the kid.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: So sorry for not answering the question. But you don't
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: think that was surprised some people. Yeah, I mean it's
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: just I just put out of my skin and report uncoachable,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: like he's gonna do his own when I'm talking. Don't
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: worry about it. Yeah, I'm obviously getting cut at some point,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: so I go with this. Uh, but yeah, I walk
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: a little. I think is continues to be a guy.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: It's amazing, bucket. I don't get your thoughts on him.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: He continues to be a guy since the day he
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: got drafted. I I didn't know much about him, and
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: then as soon as I looked down and said, weif
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: it could be a good pay and nothing ever seems
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: to deviate from that thought. The more you learn about him,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: the more you see him, the more you hear about him.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: It just feels like this has a chance to be
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: an absolute home run pick. I'm here was talking to
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: you in the field today. He might wind up being
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the second best pick in this drift for the Jags.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't be surprised. And I think one
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: of the things that you're doing when you watch him
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: on the field is you begin to check off boxes.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: So you check off the box, you see him walk
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: out physically check Then you watch him go through individual
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: drills and you see the footwork, you see the technical skills,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: you check it off. You think about the pedigree at Stanford.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Stamford's had a ton of a linement that have come
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: into the league and had immediate impacts of starters. He
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: does that. And then when you watch him with the ones,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: because you're looking at dam Robinson and Juwan Taylor and
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: you're trying to envision like how far behind is he?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And he doesn't look out of place, and so that's
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: when you begin to have those conversations, Hey man, is
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: this a guy that after we watch and play a
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: couple of preseason games, yes, put pads on first, do
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: you make the move? If this guy shows that he
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: has that ability. So it would be very very interesting
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: to watch where he fits in the packing order. I
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: think it's a good all of them to have because
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: even if he's not a starter, for him to be
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: the six guy, to be a player that can play
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: on both sides, that's that's a benefit because seventeen games,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: injuries will eventually happen. Not saying that we want to
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: see that appen. I forget which one said it Uh Trent,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Balky or Urban. But the night of the draft, in
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: talking about Walker Little, one of them said, when you
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: watch him and with a little tape they had because
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: he didn't play last couple of years, when you watch
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: his tape, everything that he did looked easy. And with
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman that's not always the case all the times.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Even these big guys, they're big guys off and not
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: the most athletic. Sometimes even the effective guys look like
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: they're having to work really hard to do what they're doing. Basselli,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: who you played with, was a guy I was used
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: to make the analogy he was put on this earth
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: to play that position. It was easy for him. I'm
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: not comparing and walk a little to bissally, But in
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: that trait I like hearing when a coach says about
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, everything looks easy for this guy. He's
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: looks natural. Not all of them look natural. No, in
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: the position that we talked about, like he's a natural
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: left tackle, because in the game, the left tackle should
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: be the more most athletic of the lineman because he
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: has to deal with those superheroes on the other side.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: He has that and even though the game is changing
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: where now you have to have two good guys that
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: right and left, he looks like he can play and
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: he The thing is day one, when you close Euyes,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: it's easy to envision him as a star. And that's
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: and that's a big thing when you bring a pick,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: even though he hasn't played in a couple of years,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: for him to look like that, even though when short
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: shorts and shirts, I think that Bow's will and what
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: you always want Mini camp I was always told as
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: a scout, Yeah, you can probably speak to this. You
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: don't want to be walking off the field, gun. Uh,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: that's what it is like when you're blink scouting. First impression,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: first impression for walk a little was very very impressive.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: It was and infact the very worst. He pushes Cam
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Robinson and pushes Jowan Taylor and creates some competition. It's
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: not a bad thing either. Agreed. Agreed, All right, So
• 28:01
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• 28:02
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• 30:34
  Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp. The guys are back on the field tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: just the rookies, and then it is officially summer break.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Yeah, this this offseason has
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: been weird. It it almost the times hasn't felt like
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: an off season. It's been a busy one. Yeah, me
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: and Bucky, you've talked every every Wednesday morning on Huddle Up.
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  Speaker 1: We'll put that away from a month and get back.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna miss us tell you that right now, a
• 31:02
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• 31:05
  Speaker 1: told you, Bucky, but you get a little break or
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: you don't have to talk to us. You typically take
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: your breaks whenever you want. For this break, Okay, some
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: break for everybody. You will have a break from John.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I know you didn't want to say it, but yes,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: you will have that. Indeed, let's get into some NFL headlines.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: A lot going on around the league, and we're going
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: to talk about it. Aaron Rodgers, DeShawn Watson both knots
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: at voluntary and mandatory mini camp. Buck. Yeah, I want
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on this. This Deshaun Watson. We
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: talked about it every single week. We play at all
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: these scenarios of of how this is gonna work. We
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: all agree we don't know if he's going to be
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: in a uniform this year. No, I mean that that's
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: one of the tougher situations because you have so many
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: different storylines going on. One, you don't know what the
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: league is going to do with the off the field
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: situations that he's dealing with, so he has to handle that.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: And then with the Houston Texans, does you want to
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: go back to the in Texas? And better yet, do
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: they want him back? And so have When you have
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: all of that stuff kind of bruin, you just don't
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: know how to go to play out. But I will
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: say this take away the legal stuff. The shot Wison
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't have any leverage in this situation, like all the
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: leverages with the team, and the clock really starts when
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: you get the training camp because when he shows the
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: training camp, or if he doesn't show, that's when the
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: fine schedule takes place. That's when they can begin to
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: go after signing bonus and all of that other stuff.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: That's when it becomes real. Right now, it's just kind
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: of been play play fodder. I'm not coming those things.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: But when training camp is that's when we really see
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: what is going to happen in this situation. But do
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: they even want the leverage? That's what's amazing about that.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's I don't think anybody really knows the
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: question you post the very beginning. Do they want him?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe they don't want him. They haven't really said does
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: he want He might be in a position where he
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: needs to go back to them, but he really can't
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: say it. So I would be surprised if he's playing
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the Firs spent of the season. This feels like being
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: mid June, like a a resolution of all these threads
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: will be difficult by the time they play in Week one.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: But in this league history and in my experience tells
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: me on on August twenty that story you could change
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden. You can snap your fingers and
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: he's in camp the next day. Yeah, weird deal. It
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: is one of the It will be one more the
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: fascinating stories to watch because we have all of this stuff.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: And then the legal thing just kind of threw a
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: wrenching all of it because it went from me and
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is unhappy with the team to then the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: team is like, hey, can we take on the water
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: that will come along with him being the face of
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: the franchise. Um once again, they have the leverage and
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: so they can't just let them go for nothing. They
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: have to figure out what the conversation would be. But
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: it's hard for other teams to know what to give
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: up until they get the stuff from the league, and
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff won't be settled until after
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the season. How do you give up picks equity few
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: not knowing what you're going to get, having no idea Rogers,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: By the way, green Bay needs to say you're playing
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: for us, thank you very much, and get off my law.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And Bucky Oh, I mean like they don't have to
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: say that. He doesn't have any choice. He has to
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: play for them, right, That's like everyone is saying this,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: and so everyone is like they should bend over backwards
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: for for Aaron Rodgers. But regardless, he has three years
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: left on this so much money left to play. You
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: can go host Jeffardy, but Jeoffardy is not gonna pay
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: enough to pay back all the money that will be owed.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: This will be it. This would be a funny one
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: to play out, But I would expect him to be
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: in green Bay win camps. I would don't get John started. Please,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: he has this thing. Let's get off my long thing
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: that players have to play off contract city hates the
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: trend quarterback we started. Who teams signed to major salary
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: cap shaping deals is a different situation than young players.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: So if if you sign with the team to a
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: major cap shaping the other shaping the franchise, you have
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: to commit to that. That's my major point with it,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: because if quarterbacks are gonna be so important to get
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the his deals, then quarterbacks really need to keep those
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: deals because the franchise depends on him so much. No,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: but that that that is true all of this. Whenever
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: you see these these uh dust ups or disagreements with
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks and team, it's always about the money. Russell Wilson, Uh,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: it's it's always about they want more cheese on the burgers.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: And Dak Prescott and all those guys getting over forty
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: million per they want to be in the forty million
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: dollar club. I don't blame him. I can't say I
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: blame him. Speaking of quarterbacks, let's go to our second
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: headline all over New England yesterday was this headline. That
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: one headline, Cam Newton really struggled and to mac Jones shine,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: So when are we going to see this shakeout? I
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: think the Patriots they spent a ton of money in
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: free agency, very unlike them. Kim Newton coming off a
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: rough year. Right now he's the starter for how long though?
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Look I anticipated him being this daughter for the overwhelm
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: majority of the season. I think one thing we have
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: to realize mac Jones only started seventeen games in college
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and we're asking him to come in and step into
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: a very complex offense, which you may know, but he
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: doesn't have the experience. And it'll be the preseason will
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: be one thing, but then when we started playing games
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: and the expectations that come along with the Patriots. Look,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a faction fans that want to see
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: mac Jones god because they've seen this offense operate a
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: certain way with Tom Brady. I'm not saying that mac
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Jones is in that time Brady class, but because we're
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: comfortable seeing that offering, that offense play a certain way,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: doesn't be a lot of pressure on Camdon to play
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: at high level. I have one thought and then a
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: question for the scout. I think Belichick would love to
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: go show he could win with a rookie quarterback. I
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: think there. I think so. I think that would feed
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: his ego a little bit but or I also think
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: he has the confidence that he and his staff could
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: prepare to do that. You've watched Cam Newton more than
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I am. I see Cam new not on primetime on Mondays.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: There were times last year that he looked like a
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: shell of what he had been in his prime? Is
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: that injury? Is that decline? Can he be the player
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: physically because he was just physically a wondrous of players
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: you've seen in a long time. Is that gone? Or
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: was last year in aberration or where would you put that?
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: It's a big question mark because you have to do
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: the Cam evaluation and a couple of different things. The
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: first part of it, the first two games he looked great.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Then he had the COVID situation. And one thing that
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: we don't know is how much did it COVID impact him?
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: You know, when it came to like um his overall
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: ability physically and mentally, he fell behind in the offense
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: he admitted today, Where this offense I learned it on
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: my own, but by the end of the year like
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: it caught up to me because I didn't fully know
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: what I was thinking too much and those things I
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: will say the New England pages are like a snowflake.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: They can change styles at any point. They like to
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: run the football. In December, him asked that even though
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: he played poorly as a thrower at twelve wrestling touchdowns
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: and so a lot of it depends on when Bill
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Belichick looks at this team and he looks at the
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: best path for them to win and win at a
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: high level. How do they need to play? Because I
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: think that ultimately determine which quarterback he could he get
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: away with playing like back and forth going mac Jones
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: and oh my gosh, I don't know, I don't know.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know if if anybody would try it, he
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: would the platoon system at quarterback. I mean, I mean,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I guess he could. He could try that only to
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: add to the genius because the Cowboys won doing doing that,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: that would be historical moment. Yeah, I mean, I think
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: ultimately they're gonna play the best quarterback. The one thing
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: that we know about the pages, they're unafraid of playing
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: anybody and everybody from andrafted rookie. If mac Jones wins
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: the job, and I think the odds is stactually gets
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: him early to win it. But if he wins the job,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be the guy that that runs
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: out there. We shall see. And finally, this is something
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: that he mentioned on the practice field, is a little strange.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Used to look at new numbers around the league. Yeah,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: our guy Jalen Ramsey number five in l A wow. Yeah,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: it's probably good for his back, so it's not as
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: big as number twenty. Right. Let's wait, ray Shawn Jenkins
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville, number two. You got Rudy Ford at five, Bucky.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I know this is unconventional for you. No, No, I
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: love when you've you were two. Yeah, but I war
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: seven because only the only ballers can wear single diggers balls.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: You gotta pick, you gotta pick that. Only ballers can
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: do that. And if I had my druthers, I know it.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: That's not the league. I would wear zero. In the
• 39:38
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• 39:41
  Speaker 1: You can only go from one to nine in the NFL,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: but in college you can wear zero. They should, uh.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I've always thought they should bring back zero, double zero
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: and have it be for wide receivers and centers. I
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: think it would be fantastic to see a center wearing
• 39:59
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• 40:03
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• 43:02
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• 43:11
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• 43:14
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• 43:17
  Speaker 1: line up? Yeah, I think the two days and watching
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the defense, you talk about the versatility and even urban
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• 43:48
  Speaker 1: it's a lot. And then on the other side, the
• 43:50
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• 43:56
  Speaker 1: before we close out, tell me how impressed you were
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: with the amount of motion this offense is. Yeah. Today
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: in the very competitive part, like we just saw so
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: many motions and shifts, constant changing a personnel. It was
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: almost like watching a hockey game, hockey lines, guys going in,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: guys going out. If Trevor Lawrence is able to handle
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: the volume of the playbook, they can create a lot
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: of problems for the defense with the different personnels that's
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: going in and out, and then the way they're deploying
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: their personnel. Travis Antient is one where we saw him
• 44:26
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• 44:28
  Speaker 1: How do you treat them? You teat them as a
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: running back of wide receiver. They're multiple players that can
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: occupy those kinds of roles. They could make life very
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• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting when Darryl Bebble said, yes,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Lavisco Chanel. Our number one priority is to make him
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: the best wide receiver we can. That was a big headline.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Where are you gonna put him? He's gonna be a
• 44:49
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