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#557 - Cenk Uygur · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 2: we got a special guest in here. I'm a fan
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  Speaker 2: of this guy. He is a I would say, a
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  Speaker 2: pioneer in the YouTube space, in the news space. One
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  Speaker 2: of my favorite channels for the last I don't know
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  Speaker 2: since I can remember Man the Young Turks. Jank Huger's here. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: thank you for coming.
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  Speaker 1: Man appreciated, Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's crazy because I feel like, because I
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  Speaker 2: am like a old school like obviously I grew up
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  Speaker 2: a Democrat. I've always voted for Democrats my entire life,
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  Speaker 2: and the last like four to five years, I've felt like, like,
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  Speaker 2: what has happened to my party? Like what is going on?
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  Speaker 2: And it's longer than that. I guess I've been paying
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  Speaker 2: more attention and been more like fully engaged into what's
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  Speaker 2: going on the last four or five years, so it
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  Speaker 2: becomes a little bit more disenfranchising. But I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what is going on with with with the quote unquote
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  Speaker 2: left and with the party as a whole man where
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  Speaker 2: you got guys like you and I who are just
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  Speaker 2: like Greeman and trying to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's been going on a long time. And
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  Speaker 1: this is actually chapter four my book, Justice Is Coming.
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  Speaker 1: What happened in the Democratic Party and so it actually
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  Speaker 1: started back in seventy eight. So and it was a
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  Speaker 1: gradual process until it become became almost nearly completely corrupted
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  Speaker 1: minus Bernie and his wing right. So Supreme Court legalized bribery.
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  Speaker 1: They said, the corporations are human beings. Money is speech,
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  Speaker 1: so they're just talking to politicians when they give them
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  Speaker 1: millions of dollars. And then mainstream media is harder corruption,
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  Speaker 1: and so they would go and be like oh yeah, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: when you know, name a lobby big pharm or oil
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  Speaker 1: or the bankers or APAC gives like hundreds of millions
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  Speaker 1: of dollars to politicians, No, no, that doesn't influence them
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  Speaker 1: at all. They're honorable gentlemen.
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  Speaker 2: They just it's crazy how they give everybody the benefit
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  Speaker 2: of the doubt that they're no, no, no, of course it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't influence. It's like, if you gave that much money
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  Speaker 2: to anybody, you'd have an influence on them no matter
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  Speaker 2: what it is. You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, so there's an old line about journalism that
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  Speaker 1: you're supposed to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable,
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  Speaker 1: right means you're supposed to take on power You're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to challenge power, right, but our media doesn't do that anymore.
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  Speaker 1: So they actually they do the reverse. They comfort the powerful. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why when I mean, I've been doing this
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  Speaker 1: for twenty three years now, we're the oldest showing internet history.
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  Speaker 2: Can I remember when you and Alex Jones got into it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, real quick on that. It's fun. This is
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Door was there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, fun fact
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  Speaker 1: on that one. So that's the night of Trump's acceptance
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  Speaker 1: speech at the RNC in twenty sixteen, and Trump's speech
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  Speaker 1: was number two on Facebook. Number one was the fight
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  Speaker 1: Alex Jones and I got into. Okay, so we beat
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  Speaker 1: Trump's acceptance speech on that night. Anyways. Yeah, so I've
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  Speaker 1: been in every brawl there is, and that's part of
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  Speaker 1: why mainstream media doesn't like us. They're like, oh, that
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  Speaker 1: guy's not genteel. You know, that the son of a
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  Speaker 1: bitch taking hundreds of millions of dollars in bribes. That
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  Speaker 1: guy's a gentleman. That guy is a wonderful elitist. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But Jank with his twenty eight million subscribers and you know,
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  Speaker 1: like longest running show on the internet, populist dude, they
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  Speaker 1: hate me. Okay, Like, I don't know if you remember
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  Speaker 1: in the XFL back in the day, he hate me,
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  Speaker 1: he hate me. Here you go.
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  Speaker 2: I looked for that jersey on eBay recently. I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: find it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, you find it. You gotta let me buy it.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, this should be a sick like
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  Speaker 2: throwback to pull out, Like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. For me, it's they hate me. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 1: So the Democratic leadership hates me, Republicans hate me, mainstream
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  Speaker 1: media hates me. The only people who don't hate me
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  Speaker 1: are real people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you mentioned the media. And I saw
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  Speaker 2: a clip this morning that enraged me a little because
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  Speaker 2: I saw Jake Tapper speaking about how Hunter Biden was
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  Speaker 2: the quasi chief of staff for his dad. And the
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  Speaker 2: way Jake Tapper talked about Hunter Biden in this clip
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  Speaker 2: was it was so disrespectful and it was so obvious
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  Speaker 2: all the things to anybody who like knew Hunter Biden
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  Speaker 2: and you know, didn't realize that we were being fed
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  Speaker 2: this conspiracy theory about his laptop and all that. But
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  Speaker 2: he was saying all this, he was like, this guy's
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  Speaker 2: a Essentially, he was saying, this guy's a piece of shit.
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  Speaker 2: He started dating his brother's widow and got her hooked
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  Speaker 2: on crack. This is Jake Tapper saying all this on
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  Speaker 2: video this morning, and I'm in my head, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: where was all of this in twenty twenty? Where was
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  Speaker 2: all this throughout Biden's entire uh, you know, four years.
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  Speaker 2: It just it's just the most disingenuous and now it's
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  Speaker 2: an opportunistic Oh he's got a book, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: it's all it's all horseshit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like Jake Tapper's book on how did the media
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  Speaker 1: miss Joe Biden's decline is like Oja writing a book
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  Speaker 1: about finding the real killer.
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  Speaker 2: It's insane?
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  Speaker 1: Are we killing?
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  Speaker 2: Rest of the American public didn't miss it, and anybody
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  Speaker 2: who was honest, who had eyes, who had ears, or
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  Speaker 2: who listened to what you guys are saying, or a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the guys on the right were saying, it's like,
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  Speaker 2: obviously he had mental decline.
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  Speaker 1: This is not this is crazy, like so keV I
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  Speaker 1: said it back in twenty twenty. Okay, so during the primaries,
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  Speaker 1: I said, look, this brother is way slower than he
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  Speaker 1: used to be, and he's got a couple of things
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  Speaker 1: here that are not just stutters or gas right, they're
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  Speaker 1: like problematic. Right, So what was the reaction in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty Oh, you're just doing it for Bernie, your dirty
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  Speaker 1: political figure, blah blah blah blah blah. And who was
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  Speaker 1: the people who was Who are the guys who were
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  Speaker 1: throwing shade at me like that? Jake Tapper was in
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  Speaker 1: the lead, right, So I'll tell you more about Jake
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  Speaker 1: Tapper in saying Then we get to twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 1: I started a petition on young Turks. I'm like, look,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to lose to Trump. This guy, remember,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have a brain left, right, If we run him,
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  Speaker 1: a candidate requires a brain, a functioning brain, We're gonna lose.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna lose. They're like, and this is what drives
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  Speaker 1: me crazy about establishing democrats and mainstream media. They're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: so you're for Trump. I'm like, I know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to lose to Trump, and this guy's obviously gonna lose.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, oh, so you love Trump.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, it says if people's I like the
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  Speaker 2: idea of two things being true at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: it's just not possible to a lot of these people.
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  Speaker 2: It's not basically such binary thinking because I was I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I was not a I mean, I voted for Biden
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  Speaker 2: the first go around, I did not vote. I sat
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  Speaker 2: out the last election. I voted for for the Green
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  Speaker 2: Party because I just in good conscience couldn't vote for
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  Speaker 2: anybody who was a part of the funding of a genocide.
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  Speaker 2: But that being said, shout to Jill Stein, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: with that being said, though, it is interesting because when
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  Speaker 2: you're when you say certain things and you're critical of
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  Speaker 2: you know, if in twenty twenty three you were saying that,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, well you must be maga, and it's like
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  Speaker 2: or neither of these parties really represents the true working class.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you were able to sit with
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  Speaker 2: the Bernie Flagrant interview at all with that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did. I loved it.
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  Speaker 2: It's really good. Yeah, and it was it was it
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  Speaker 2: was I feel like they had conversations that It's funny
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  Speaker 2: because on Blue Sky or Threads they're tearing it down.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, Bernie's a sellout, and I'm just like and
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  Speaker 2: then on the on on Twitter, it's kind of the opposite.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they're using it as like an opportunistic way
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  Speaker 2: to like say, the Democrats are and they are the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats are fucked. But uh, it's just been funny to
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  Speaker 2: watch like people who are otherwise rational, sound thinking human
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  Speaker 2: beings not be able to have rational conversations about this
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  Speaker 2: one thing. And it's like, hey, two things can be
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  Speaker 2: true at the same time. This is how being an
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  Speaker 2: adult works one hundred percent. I've been saying that on
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  Speaker 2: the show NonStop. My co host yesterday I Want to
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  Speaker 2: our podcast Old School, said, God, you keep saying two
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  Speaker 2: things can be true at the same time all the
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  Speaker 2: time because I got to get it through to people's heads.
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  Speaker 1: So let me connect a bunch of things we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about. Right, So I say to folks, look, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna lose with this guy. His brain's leaking out of
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  Speaker 1: his ear. Okay, let's pick the strongest candidate against Trump, right,
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  Speaker 1: And they're like, so you're pro Trump. I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right, You're.
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  Speaker 2: Like, do you not hear what I get?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? No, they don't. I'm like, now, I say to
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  Speaker 1: my left wing critics, I think they got a problem
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  Speaker 1: with the English language. I don't know, maybe it's a schooling,
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  Speaker 1: Like I just did it today. I'm like, you know, democrats,
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  Speaker 1: I had a tweet about democrats. The Biden supporters screwed
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  Speaker 1: over Democratic voters more than they screwed over anyone else.
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  Speaker 1: Because if you're a maga guy, you're like, oh, I
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  Speaker 1: love that you ran this guy for ninety percent of
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  Speaker 1: the campaign and then didn't have a competitive primary and
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  Speaker 1: then handed it off to miss word salad like they're thrilled.
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  Speaker 2: I loved it. They were like, yeah, they don't want
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  Speaker 2: to have a primary.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to this maga thing. And first guy
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  Speaker 1: that runs into me, he's like, oh, thank god they
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  Speaker 1: didn't listen to you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so or thank god you know, I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: know you ran like as a performative way to try
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  Speaker 2: to force the democratic partment, but thank god you weren't
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  Speaker 2: able to truly run because I feel like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: obviously because you weren't born here.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, so look, so that's a long story. You
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  Speaker 1: can run, but I was a protest candidate. You're totally right,
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  Speaker 1: because of course the media is not gonna take you seriously.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, oh, I do the car. He's
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  Speaker 1: not even an elitist. You know. Sometimes I tell him.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I went to two Ivy League schools and
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  Speaker 1: their reaction every time is like, what the fuck? Really,
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  Speaker 1: no way, no way. But you talk like a normal person. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: goddamn right I do. And you guys sound like pricks,
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  Speaker 1: which brings us back to Jake Tapper. Okay, so that
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  Speaker 1: guy is the first one to look down his nose
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  Speaker 1: at you. His nose is like a double black diamond.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he just looking down it the whole time,
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  Speaker 1: like h and he did it with Biden's age. He
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, who's cow? Can you say he's incognitive?
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  Speaker 3: To god, you have no evidence that there's a conspiracy theory.
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  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Joe goes next segment, Joe's on air going that
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  Speaker 1: macare gun corn pop right, and you're like, what the fuck?
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  Speaker 1: He just said his uncle was eaten by cannibals. He
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  Speaker 1: literally said that, right. So and so, now Taber turns
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  Speaker 1: around It's and says, oh, I knew it all along,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm the guy who discovered it. No you're not, No,
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  Speaker 1: you're not.
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  Speaker 2: He's full of shit.
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  Speaker 1: He's one hundred percent full of shit. And you know
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  Speaker 1: what ken he say is interesting. They hate the populace
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  Speaker 1: left the mainstream media does an establishment this way more
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  Speaker 1: than they hate the populace right or MAGA, Okay, because
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  Speaker 1: like theoretically they got it out against MAGA, and they
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  Speaker 1: do in some ways for sure, right, but they at
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  Speaker 1: least listen to MAGA, Like I gotta go on a
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  Speaker 1: right wing show to get hurt on mainstream media because.
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  Speaker 2: Left wing shows are I won't you on you? No,
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  Speaker 2: if you have an audience. It's not like they have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of nobodies on CNN respectful, yeah that release
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  Speaker 2: books they don't sell like.
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  Speaker 1: But so think about it. Why is We're literally the
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  Speaker 1: largest network on the left, right, twenty eight million subscribers,
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  Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of views a month, right, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: banned on CIA and MSNBC and Fox News. That's wild?
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  Speaker 1: So why why am I the most dangerous man in America?
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  Speaker 1: Like what did I do to make it to become
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  Speaker 1: this dangerous? Right? So they'll have any mega guy on right,
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  Speaker 1: they'll be guy frawling at the mouth and he's like, oh, Michelle,
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  Speaker 1: Obama's a man.
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  Speaker 2: They have the pillow guy on yeah, had the pillow guy.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Jimmy Kimmel. But when it comes to someone who
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  Speaker 1: actually wants to change the system. They're like, oh no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: They're like antenna goes up. They're like intruder, intruder, intruder.
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  Speaker 1: We have someone who actually means it, right, So, which
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  Speaker 1: brings us back to what happened in the Democratic Party.
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  Speaker 1: What happened was they got taken over by corporate donors.
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  Speaker 1: So now, like, here, I give you an example of policy,
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  Speaker 1: paid family leave holes at eighty four percent, eighty four
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  Speaker 1: percent of the country wants it. What does mainstream media say,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Manchin's against the Joe Manchin is a moderate. Bernie
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  Speaker 1: Sanders is for it.
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  Speaker 2: He's a rat.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So how could eighty four percent of the country
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  Speaker 1: be radical and sixteen percent be moderate? Right? Right? The
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  Speaker 1: only way you can keep that kind of mythology up,
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  Speaker 1: that kind of bullshit up, is if you don't ever
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  Speaker 1: let any of us on air, right, right. And so
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  Speaker 1: then they kiss the ass of all of the moderate Democrats, who,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, are radicals, corporatis and suck at politics. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And what did they say against Bernie in twenty sixteen
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  Speaker 1: and twenty twenty, Oh, he can't win, he can't win.
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  Speaker 1: But we know, we know Hillary Clinton's definitely gonna win.
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  Speaker 1: Joe Biden's the best Democrat to run against Trump in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. My ass, there's nothing but wall to
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  Speaker 1: wall lies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's interesting because when we think of like
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  Speaker 2: you said, like I guess, it's gatekeeping at the highest level,
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  Speaker 2: where if you're if you get We were just talking
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  Speaker 2: about this earlier today about how it's a class thing.
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  Speaker 2: This is all class, right, It's it's they would like
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: to throw the LGBTQ football down the field to get
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  Speaker 2: everybody to look at it while they're fucking you over
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  Speaker 2: on your healthcare, on your medicine, on any anything, of
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  Speaker 2: being able to buy a house, all of these things,
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  Speaker 2: while we're arguing about whether or not a translady can swim.
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  Speaker 2: And again I don't agree with that, but it's it's
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't affect enough of the population for it to
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  Speaker 2: be a major talking point on all these networks. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: black rocks making it damn near impossible because they're buying
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  Speaker 2: up so much residential real estate and you know, fucking
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  Speaker 2: the middle class out of whatever the American dream is,
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  Speaker 2: whatever's left of it, to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: So let me tell you why they do the cultural
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  Speaker 1: war stuff. Okay, because it's a perfect way to divide us. So, like,
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  Speaker 1: and what happens is the radical rights starts it. They're like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we hate gay people, and like in two thousand and four,
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  Speaker 1: that works right, right, But by the time they get
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  Speaker 1: to twenty sixteen, that doesn't work anymore. Right, so they're like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: fuck it, we hate trans people, right. Yeah, So now
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't work too well either. Then they try trans bathrooms.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't work. Trans military doesn't work. Then they finally
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  Speaker 1: find something on the outer, outer outer edges of trans
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  Speaker 1: women in professional sports, right, And so then the radica
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  Speaker 1: left jumps in and they're like, yeah, that's the most
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  Speaker 1: important issue.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Like and if you're not, if you don't agree with
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  Speaker 1: us on that, you're a nazi, right, or a transphobe
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  Speaker 1: or transfhobe, or you're like hateful, And I'm like no,
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, you morons, you're gonna walk trans
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  Speaker 1: rights backwards.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And what happened now we lost military and we're on
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  Speaker 1: the verge of losing the bathrooms, right, and these poor
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  Speaker 1: folks have to get you know, ridiculed as set are
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  Speaker 1: going into a bathroom don't do that to people. Right.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, it was so harped on and dived into
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  Speaker 2: on the left and it was it became this thing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean obviously living here in California, it's it's counterproductive
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  Speaker 2: to like trans people who are just trying to live
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  Speaker 2: like a normal life, yes, yes, because they kind of
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: get characterized and turned into like these these cartoons of
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: like what's wrong with America? And it's like, yeah, what
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: if I just want to pick up a coffee and
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: take a piss, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: and get a normal gig, like you know, it's it's
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: it is crazy.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: So but there's one line first of all on regular
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: trans folks, one hundred percent right. We had did a
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: get together for TYT in Chicago last week. Yeah, uh
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: the trans woman drove with her uh A partner from
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: northern Michigan to Chicago just to say I got your back. Look,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I've been watching Young Tours for fifteen years. You've been
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: fighting for us the entire time, and these folks don't
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: know what they're talking about, right, And like, I mean,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: come on, guys, we started just democrats, We started aoc
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: et cetera. It's not like we don't know politics. Right,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: So when I tell you that you're gonna walk up
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: backwards and it's and it's going to cost you rights,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: can you please trust that for a second instead of
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: being so arrogant. But it isn't just about arrogance. So look,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: the radicals on both sides do it partly for the algorithm, Right,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: the algorithm.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Loves extreme good for business, oh good, great for business,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: good for politics, it's good.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it allows them to say, on both sides, right,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I'm the pure one. You should watch me, you should
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: listen to me, you should subscribe to me. Everyone who
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't agree with me is impure and he's not as
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: good as me. Right, So it serves their purposes. It's
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: enormously egotistical, but it costs us our rights. But the
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: most important part, keV is the establishment loves the culture wars.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: So the minute the radical right and the radical left
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: get into it, like.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, good for ratings, Yeah, it's good for ratings, it's
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: good for distraction. Why they loved Trump?
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh of course they love their circus.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't think that they were as
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like mainstream media was as complicit
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: as getting him elected because he really not to spend
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: any money on advertising. He just turned on TV all
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: day and they was talking about Trump.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: And so meanwhile, black rocks rob upline. Meanwhile, you know,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: every kind of dirty corporate trick is being played everything. Meanwhile,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: nobody's even talking about what was the one major bill
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: that Trump passed in this first term. It was giant
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: tax us for the rich, right, and he took corporate
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: taxes from thirty five to twenty one, which then transfers
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: all those that tax burden onto us. Right, so the
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: middle class now has to pay for all those corporate
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: taxes that we don't have anymore. Meanwhile, nobody even talked
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: about it. All they talked about was, oh, Trump says
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: something mean, and then the left is angry about what he's.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Trump tweet today. Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of like,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: you know, it's interesting. I want to talk to about
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Trump because this last election was it was interesting because
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I feel like there was actual there was like actually
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: a real primary part process on the on the right
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: this time. Well, I mean, he didn't participate in any
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: of the debates or anything, as opposed to what the
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Democrats did, where they just kind of you know, Lally
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: gagged us into word salad lady. But Trump it seemed
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: to me as so many people became so disenfranchised with
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: the Biden administration, some of the gas lighting gaza. I mean,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: we can go on and on and on. There was
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: a lot to not be happy about, where there was
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: this weird ven diagram of people who might have voted
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: for Bernie Sanders in twenty sixteen twenty twenty but then
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: ended up talking themselves into Trump being the better choice.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Not to say they're right or wrong as they're voted,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: is what it is. What would you attribute that to?
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I know that you as always you would you always
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: say that there's there is a populous side of the
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: maga folks that kind of align on a lot of
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: stuff that the popular side of the left should align on.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: What would you kind of attribute the ven diagram matching
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: up a little bit there between those two voting sides
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: that you would perceive to be so different.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I remember in twenty six I'd be doing
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: videos about Bernie on the street or whatever, right.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Yea, I was fucking living in Tampa, Florida, volunteering for
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Bernie's campaign out there.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and whenever I people recognize me in the street,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: whether I was shooting video or they just recognized me
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: from the show, and they were Republicans. Almost every time
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: they would say, you know, how to vote for Bernie.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: You know, I'd vote for Bernie. Right. Why why is
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the Trump guy voting for Bernie when they're on the
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: opposite ends of the political spectrum. Right, It's because they're
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: both anti establishment. The only reason Trump won his number
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: one calling card, they'd line you, they say, oh, no,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the number one reason he won me is because the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: country's racist and sexist than fascist and all that stuff. Right,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: we'll get back to that in a second. But no,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that's not the number one reason. The number one reason
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: is he's anti establishment. Now is he really? Not? Really,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: he's a fake populist, right, but at least he's savvy
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: enough to know to fake it, right. So that's why
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the Bernie people are anti establishment and the Trump people are
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: in the establishment. And that's why. So for example, they're
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: anti war, right, So Maga's anti war, were anti war right. Now,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: when I tell the left, you know, when I say
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: radical left, it's actually not necessarily always the far left.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: The moderates have gotten radicalized. Those are like the Biden zombies,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: who are like, Biden is the greatest candidate. There is
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: no other Democrat that could be Trump, right, And meanwhile,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: like both sides are leaking out like he's pulling a
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani and he's got almost no brain left. They're like, no,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Biden is the greatst you cannot rate as Biden right, right,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: So those guys have become now the most radical right.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: And so when you're saying, hey, guys, the right wing maga,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: they're not lying. They're all saying they're anti war, like
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: some of them might be lying, and some of them
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and Trump might be lying. And if Trump does start
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: a war, some of them might back him, but a
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: huge percentage of them will not back him, and they
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: don't they actually don't want war. Marjorie Taylor Green comes
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: on the Young Turks.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I saw that great conversation. I'm whether or not. I mean,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: obviously she's a kook, but there is things. There's middle
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: ground with anybody exactly, so why not have those discussions.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Right, So we bring her on and she says, if
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Trump goes a war with Iran, I'm out. I'm out
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: on Trump.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: What a crazy thing for Marjorie Green Taylor to stay
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: on camera.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing? She said no money to Israel, Like,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, awesome, awesome, Right, yeah, and you're right, all
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: of our other opinions we don't have to agree with.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: We can fight her tooth and nail on the other stuff. Right,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: but take yes for an answer, especially when the magabass
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: is screaming to Trump, who's in power, don't go to war. Okay.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: So now when you tell the radical left, which are
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: actually mostly moderates these days, the former moderates, They're like, no,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: they are all in a cult. We are not in
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: a cult. They are in a cult. They will never
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: disagree with Trump. And I'm like, look, Tucker Carlson two
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: day saying Trump is wrong, right, Trump wrong to not
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: release the Epstein files, wrong to back Israel.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: A lot of the free speech stuff. I've seen a
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: lot of the pundits on the right say, we don't
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: bat this is this is this is against America, Like you.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah, Joe Rogan is on there. Now Rogan's
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: more in the middle and more then he leans right.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: He obviously backed Trumpere, but he backed Bernie. Why does
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and why did Rogan go from Bernie to Trump Because
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: he's anti establishment, because he's an independent populist right and
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: they and they keep pushing rogans of the world to
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the right.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: And also the establishment. I mean, they did Brogan dirty
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: with the COVID shit, Like they really threw all of
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: the whole sink and the whole fucking caboose trying to
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: get him the fuck out of here.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: So here here's my take on that. Give so number one? Uh,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: do I agree with Rogan on ivermectin? No? Okay? Number two?
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: So the fuck? What? So? The fuck? What? Okay? Number three? Oh, well,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: that's just information and it could hurt people. Well, then, brother,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: you put out the correct information, and that's how it works. Well,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: if you try to cancel him or you're trying to
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: shut down his to the other voices, it's only gonna
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: make it worse. It's not like the disinformation or misinformation
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: isn't gonna get out. It's gonna get out more, not less.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think with COVID, just to put a dot
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: on the eye there, it's it's almost like you you
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: asked an entire population to blindly trust the most corrupt
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: industry there might be the pharmaceutical pharmaceutical industry and just
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: take their word for it. And you know, I think
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: when you start mandating, that's the thing, is the man
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: the mandating. When people start losing their jobs, that's when
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: people are like, well wait a minute, hold on, this
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: is my But you know, I think that's when things
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: get a little obviously. I think, you know, intent was
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think the intent was ever like for a
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: lot of these people was bad. I don't think people
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: like on CNN thought that they were you know, I
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: think they had good intent.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: No, No, I that on COVID. It's a complicated issue.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: It's super complicated. So I don't want to get too
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: much into it, but wild times would live through. But
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: but yeah, it's interesting because you know, you're seeing the
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: cracks in I wouldn't say the cracks, but you're seeing
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: the evolution and a lot of the pundits on the right,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: whether it's Candace Owens or like you said, Tucker Carlson,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of these guys who we think we should
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: hate as liberals. But then you'll see them say stuff
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: and you'll be like about, maybe it's Israel, maybe it's
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: some of the free speech stuff or the war stuff,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: and you're like, I mean I kind of agree with
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I agree with them on a lot of a few
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: of these things pretty strongly.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's again a million things I disagree with
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Candas about. And when she gets into like a Jewish
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: cabal in America, I hate.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: That stuff, Yeah, because it takes away from like what's
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: actually happening.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not true, it's not right, and it takes
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: away the focus from Israel, which is a foreign government's.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: A government entity that is a foreign government that is
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: obviously you know, again, it has nothing to do with
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Jewish people as a whole. It's a government. And that's
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: the other thing is it's like, but that takes us
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: back to what we're talking about. Trans writes the way
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: that the Trump administration is carrying the water for a
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: foreign government and removing free speech in a way that
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: is unprecedented. It hurts the cause of Jewish people, and
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: it increases some of these stereotypes and tropes, and it
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: increases anti Semitism.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent. So let me connect to all those
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: So on the other hand, Candice yesterday or two days ago,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: does this speech about how you know what we were
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: lied to about Muslims, Like all my life in American media,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I got this propaganda the Muslims are dirty savages and
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: violent and stuff. Meanwhile, we've been attacking them, Israel's been
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: attacking them. We've been like they're the.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Most punished population of my lifetime.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent is not even close.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not even close.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Right, And for even Candace won't own us to wake
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: up who said terrible things about Muslims before, for her
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: to wake up and go, holy shit, we lied to Yeah,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: they're just normal human beings. What the fuck were we
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: doing this to them? For? Right?
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: So that's like a that's now the political spectrum is
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: getting jumped.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: It's so jumbled, right, it's crazy. Yeah, the right is
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: so divided it's wild. Because I feel like Ben Shapiro's cooked.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody gives it like I think he's
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: He's done.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: So so that gets to like such an interesting moment
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: in history right now, right, because you're right, the right
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: wing is splintering like crazy, like Tucker's in a war
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: with Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro, etcetera. Dave Smiths on Tucker's.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Side, Love Dave Smith.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, so again, I got big disagreements with davon social
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: trinity and other issues. But he's honest, and he's smart,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and he's and and he's principled. Right, so he So
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: we we got a major civil war going on in
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the right wing. Come back to israelcause it's such an
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: important topic. But in the middle of that civil war,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: we got the radical left going nope, they're all occult,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: they all think the same thing, and they all back
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: each other. I'm like, do you you know we're back
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: to Joe Biden's young and dynamic, right, you got you
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: don't have eyes, you don't have ears. You don't see
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: them fighting right now, where Tucker's saying Mark Levin's a
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: piece of crap, and Mark Levin is saying that Tucker's
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a piece of crap, et cetera. Ben Shapiro's totally losing
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: his audience, right, Oh yeah, yeah, because because now what's
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: happened on the right is they're like, wait a minute,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: they're waking up like kind of candae Soans, etcetera. Are
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: waking up and going, wait, I thought it was supposed
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: to be America first. Why is it Israel first? Yeah?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Why is it. I think Mark Levinny tweeted neo khn
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: is just another word for Jew And I'm like, what
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: what what?
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: John Bolton, Dick Cheney, George Bush, none of them were Jewish.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: It's insane. Hillary Clinton not a Jew? No, Like, what
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: are we talking about? So, you know the biggest warhawks
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: of all time put him in the rafters. You're not Jewish?
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what's happening is that they're a one
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: trick pony. The israel first Crown is a one trick pony,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: and time anybody opposes Israel, they're like anti Sami, aunti Sami.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: So now that it's played out, they cried wolf too
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: many times, like in the middle of slaughtering over fifty
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: thousand people and starving two million people to death, they're like, oh,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: if you point that out, you're an anti semi. Now
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: right wing, left wing, middle wing are all like deuces, motherfuckers, deuces.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: It's bad.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Like, no, I'm not interested in your bullshit charges of
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: anti Semitism. If you got real anti semitism, we're against it.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: We're one hundred percent against it. This isn't about religion,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: this is about a foreign government. Right, But if you're
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: telling me that Apak hasn't bought Congress when they were
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: the number one spenders of money, when they spent hundreds
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: of millions of dollars on our crooks, the corrupt politicians.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: And you tell me, no, ignore your eyes and ears.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: No where this country isn't Israel first, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Our politicians are such crooks and it's not about Israel,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: and it's it's money in polity. Like you were saying,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Big Pharma the dirtiest industry there is. We're not allowed
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: to negotiate drug prices. What the fuck kind of capitalism
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: is that?
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: They say you're you're capitalists, and you say, no, you're
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: on everything, but this, no, you're not allowed to have competition.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: You're not allowed to have competition.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: What capitalism is?
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, capitalism is right? So and why does big Pharma
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: get away with that? Because they bribed all the politicians
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and the politicians work for them like goddamn dogs. Right.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: It's it's pretty crazy. It's like interesting too because then
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: they take like a word like socialists. I mean, this
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: was like the big thing they made that, like the
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: big S word in terms of Bernie and it's like
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: most people will write Bernie Sanders off at least that
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I would talk to in the last ten years, just
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: based off of no, but he's a socialist, Like have
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: you ever heard this guy fucking talk? Like like it's
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: it's it's almost like, you know, we're talking about the
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: big beautiful bill, uh and you know some of the
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: increases spending on certain things where you're like, okay, in theory,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: the idea of doge. Initially, I was like, yeah, this
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: sounds like a good idea that everyone should be excited
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: for somebody going in and exposing wasteful spending save in theory,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: that should be a bipartisan thing that everyone should have
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: got behind. I think it was a ruse, and I
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: think Elon Musk and the way he carried himself was
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: like a fucking dick, So it was hard for anybody
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: to support him. But all these cuts that they supposedly made,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: which was an inflated bullshit number anyway, but ends up
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: getting added on to the defense budget anyway. So it's
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: like you increase the defense budget by two hundred billion
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: dollars or something, you get it over a trillion dollars now,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: But then you tout that Doge saved I think one
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: hundred and forty billion dollars. But it doesn't matter because
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: if that money's just getting put over here, it's like
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: where where like like you know where they're talking about
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: the five thousand oar dose checks. I was like, that's
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: something people will be excited about. That shit's never going
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: to happen.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: No, it was all bullshit, no way, because that goes
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: to the average guy. There's no way to share that.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: So look here's what happened with DOTCH. So they come in,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: they said, we're going to do cuts and stuff. I
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: knew it was bullshit from day one, to be honest.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: And so why because I've seen the Republican trick a
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: thousand times. Right, Oh, we're going to do big cuts,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: so don't worry about it. When we do a multi
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: trillion dollar tax cut for the rich, it'll get paid.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: For on the ball over here. And you're like, oh,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: but they're cutting spending. But meanwhile, the boring bill, the
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: you know do was just sexy. You got a face
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: for it, you got a mascot. People are paying attention
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: to it while they're trying to fuck you in on
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: the back end. It's it's insane.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: So then I put out a tweet. I didn't think
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: anything was going to happen of it, but I tagged
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: you Loan and I said I remember, yeah, I say yeah.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I said, look, if you want to cut the Pentagon,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I'll cut it in half. You know you want to
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: cut two trillion, I'll cut twenty percent of it for you,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: overnight four hundred billion from because that's the number they
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: can't account for.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: They can't that's the real money. That's where did it go.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: With no idea. Now, if you don't know where four
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars went, you're not getting the four hundred billion.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: That's our money. That's our money. If you tell me, hey,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: thanks a lot for all your fucking money, where'd it come?
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know my pocket? Fuck off? No, no, they
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: give me the money back. Right. So then Elon goes, oh, yeah,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: that's interesting, tell me how, and Don Julior jumps in.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, good idea. Right, And so again my
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: friends on the radical left are like.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: You're working with Elon Musk. Can you trust him one
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: hundred percent? You're I'm like, guys, I didn't say he's
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: gonna do it. I said, if you want to do it,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I will do it for you. Right, But I know
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: he's not gonna do it. So they get on the
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: record and they say, oh, yeah, we're gonna do it.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: And what do they do. They added one hundred billion
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: to the Pentagon. They didn't take one dollar away.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Right, and guess what they're spending They might spend a
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: couple hundred billion dollars on now, they might spend.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: It on the Golden Dome.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Golden Dome. And the person who might get that the
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: company that might get that contract is SpaceX, owned by
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Elon Musk. So what happened to the There ain't no cuts.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: So then you go to the one hundred and forty
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: billion of supposed cuts. Now, a lot of it isn't real.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: A lot of it is like cutting cancer research, malaria,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: et cetera. But give the whole thing to them, okay.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: So or you know, even if you get took them
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: at the word, and yeah, take them at their word
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: and say, all right, man, good job, guys cut one
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: hundred and forty billion dollars, okay, And let's say they
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: were all good cuts.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, The tax cut is five and a half trillion.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: If you take away the one hundred and forty billion,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: you still have five point four trillion.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: So what difference does it make, right, right, And he'said, oh,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: don't worry about it. The tasks are going to pay
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: for the tax cuts. The gold cart is going to
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: pay for the tax cuts. This all of that is
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: tricks so that when you get to the five trillion
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: in tax cuts, you go, oh, no, it's okay, it's
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: paid for already. Just give everything to the rich, Give
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: everything to the rich, give it another giant corporate tax
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: cuts from twenty one to fifteen percent. While you're pretending
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to be populous.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: And you're supposed to be trying to fix our debt.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: And I think this bill increased spending by I forget
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: the number, but I think it's like it's a lot.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: But I think I think at the end of the day,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: it's like we are kind of dealt with two shit
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: deck of cards in terms of the Republican Party and
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: the establishment Democrat Party, because I think the Democratic Party
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: is the most corrupt organization in politics, because they've been
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: proven to actually conspire against one of their people. Bernie, Yeah, yeah,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I mean it's a proven fact. You know, I think
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: they got found guilty, but the judge was like it's
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: a private club or some shit like that.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: They use that same argument against me. Yeah.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Anyway, it's like where do we go from here? I know,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: you have your pack that you're putting together, but it
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: feels like we're underwater with no chance of not drowning
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: either way you look, because either way you look, there's oligarchs,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: there's billionaires. There's there's nothing left for the middle class.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: There's no real option left for normal people. For if
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I have to go and get surgery, and I got
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: to not to get the surgery because if I get
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: the surgery, I'm gonna be fucked and I gotta go
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: out of work, and there's just no like, there's no
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: options left. It feels like anybody on the left that
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: has a brain or that has a spine, I'll say they,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I mean they get they. I mean they're pretty much
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: the guys on the outside of the fence, like trying
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: to play and they're looking over the fence like, hey,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: what about us. And then on the right you got
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: a guy like Thomas Massey, who's you know, I disagree
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: with a lot of stuff with Thomas massy but has
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: a spine.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, that's right. Send Trump today.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna primary him and try to get him
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: the fuck out.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: No, no, don't.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I think they will lose because I think his constituents
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: appreciate what he's doing. But where how do we get
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: through this and try to change have a real I
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say the word revolution, but like have a real
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: flip on this, flipping the system on its head because
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: it's set up for everyone to just I mean, you know,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: there was that World Economic Forum quote from about a
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: decade ago where they said you'll own nothing and be happy.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: And it feels like we're all just we're all just
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: going to be you know, cattle in the ranch soon enough.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: And you know, the American dream's gone, man, you know,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: especially here in California. We're fucked here.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good news. I have the answer. Okay, So here's
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: one thing that American people have not tried. So what
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: do we try. We tried to establishing Republicans like George
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Bush and Dick Cheney hated it, right. We tried establishing
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Democrats like Joe Biden did like it right. Hillary Clinton
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: et cided and I think he's fair to say hated it. Okay, yeah, yeah,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: yeah right. So then we tried the populist right. That's
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Trump at least he's pretending to be populist, right, So
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and soon American people are going to realize hein populist.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: He's just an guy who gave record amount of the
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: rich and he did it last time, he'll do it
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: this time. Okay. So the one thing they haven't tried
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: is populous left. That's the Bernie camp right, Bernie twenty sixteen.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: No culture wars, right, So just pure economic populism. Give
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: things to the American people, not to the rich, not
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the corporation. So I start a rebellion impack along with
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: a couple of co founders, and uh, we're pushing the
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: populist plank. Okay, so what's the populist plank? To your point?
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Number one, don't allow private equity to buy residential homes
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: because these bankers are coming in and they're buying all
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the homes. Why Because it's the biggest wealth creation asset
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: in America. That's how we got to the greatest middle
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: class the world has ever seen because our homes. Our
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: homes went up in value, right, and that created huge
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: wealth for us. The bankers, the private equity guys. They
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: see that and they're like, why would we let this
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Our servants have that. No, no, no, no, we're going to
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: get all that wealth creation. We're going to turn them
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: into renters and then they'll have to work for Corporate
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: America for the rest of their lives. They're going to
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: be indentured servants. We can stop that. So if you
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: stop that, you bring it that wealth back to the
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: middle class, and you stop housing prices from going through
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: the roof. Right, So that's proposal number one. Proposal number
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: two is negotiate drug prices at Medicare, can bring it
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: back capitalists, right. Proposal number three.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Doesn't sound like a socialist idea.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So Bernie calls the democratic socialism, which I think
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: is a bad idea. Yeah. Yeah, you know what, I
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: call it democratic capitalism because it's democracy checking capitalism. You
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: need both. You need capitalism and you need democracy.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I like that's a much better name to roll with.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And if democracy doesn't check capitalism, then it turns
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: into corporatism. And corporism is the opposite of capitalism. Giant
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: corporations hate competition. They're the forget the socialists and the communists.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: The people who really want to kill capitalism are corporations
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: for sure, because corporations don't want any competition.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Well, that's why all their labors, you know, in fucking
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: China and India and Vietnam.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Exactly, everyone's want. Politicians talk about like, well, you know,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: we're expecting these American corporations to be patriotic.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Good, yeah, because that happened zero fucking times exactly. Go
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: to fucking Detroit and tell me how that worked out.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Besides, which, corporations aren't people. They're not humans. They don't
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: feel patriotism.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Their job is to increase profits, period. Dot.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: People are talking about, oh, what if AI takes over
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the machines take over too late. They already did. They're
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: called corporations. Corporations already took over. They already zombie fined
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: the Democratic establishment and the Republican establishment. They already turned
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: them into zombies. So you take that away, paid family.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Give the moms twelve weeks off after they have a baby.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I go on Patrick B. David's show, right wing show.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: They do a poll. Seventy five percent of his right
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: wing audience schools. Yeah, fuck yeah, of course, give them
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: moms twelve weeks off. We want them to have babies, right, Well,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: why wouldn't we give them? Every country on earth has
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: paid family leave, but America, even though we're the richest.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Why because we live under corporate rule and corporations are
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: crushing us. So if and no wars, money out of politics,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: and higher wages. So these are all democratic policies, right,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: They're all super popular. They pull it sixty five to
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: ninety five percent, right, So why wouldn't you run on
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: your most popular policies.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: It's not. It's almost like it's not about winning as
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: much as it's about keeping things more the way they are.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: So they would rather have Donald Trump win because they
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: know he's a rich fuck and they kind of know
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: he's got some guys around him that won't let him
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: get too crazy. Then turn the party over to what
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: the actual American people want, because all these motherfuckers are
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: owned by their donors. They're all full of shit. Like,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: no disrespect to Corey Booker. I appreciated him doing his
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: you know is uh you know, how was he twenty
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: eight hours or something?
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: He was doing his I think twenty five or something,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: whatever it was. Yeah, the theatrics.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: It was theatrical, It was not it was it doesn't matter,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: like all these guys are full of shit.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Of course, you know what Cory Booker did yesterday. He
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: voted to confirm uh, Jared Kushner's dad to an ambassador position.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: And Jared Kushner's dad isn't just Jared Kushner's that who knows.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: He's a guy who got he gotta, he gotta he.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Didn't he get he got convicted.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he got convicted, and then Trump gave m a
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: what's it called pardon?
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a white collar criminal, right, like.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Quite literally, why would you vote to confirm him? What
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: are we talking about?
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Because he's from New Jersey and he has a lot of.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Cash, so hey maybe yeah. And that's the thing is like,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the answer is AOC in the future,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's definitely. It feels like speaking of
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: people with no spines, no true beliefs, and power hungery.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: It feels like Gavin Newsom is really like I think,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: no matter what, he's throwing his hat in the ring.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah of course. So let me let
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: me try to give you some hope. So I'll tell
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: you about some of our candids, and then I'll tell
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: you the guy that me and Charlie or obsessed with. Okay, right,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: so number one our candy. So we got Rocanna. That's
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: hardcore Bernie economic team. Right. Then you got Richard Ojetta
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: in North Carolina nine and so Ojetta is a twenty
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: four year veteran and his brother ran in West Virginia
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: because he went his parents lived in West Virginia at
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: the time. So anyways, he's he was in a district
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: that favored Republicans by fifty four points. He took the lead.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Trump had to go down in West Virginia to make
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: sure Ojetta didn't win. You know how he did it.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: He ran ads against Trump and Nancy Pelosi. Wow, okay.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: So and they're like, well, you can't do that, you're
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: in the Democratic Party. He's like, watch me, motherfuckers, Okay,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do ads, calling out whoever I need to
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: call out to deliver for the people in this district.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Right and so he and then he did an ad
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: against drug companies at the time, back in like twenty
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: eighteen or whatever that was. That never happened, Like you
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: don't do ads against donors, you're crazy against Democratic donors,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: no way, and he did it. So he won up
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: closing thirty one points like never seen before. Now he
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: is in a district that's about ten points in favor
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: of the Republicans, is a red district, so the mainstream
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: media is like, oh, he'll never win. All right, watch us,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: watch us, let's see what happens. Right then you got
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Randy Brice came out yesterday. He's known as iron Stash.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: He's an iron worker. He ran against Paul Ryan before,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: and I'm calling him lead pipe and blowtorch. Okay. These
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: guys are serious populists. And what they're saying is if
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: we get into Congress and we we're going to propose
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: these bills, and if the Democratic Republican Party or the
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Democratic Party says no, no paid family leave, our donors
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: are against it, We're not gonna take it. We're not
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh well, Nancy Pelosi said it. It's okay, No, no,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: You're going to vote on these bills, and I want
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: to see how you vote, and if you vote against
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Democratic voters and the country, we're gonna come for you. Okay.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: So that's why it's called a rebellion. They joined the rebellion.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: They don't take any corporate pack money and they come
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: in hitting hard.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you're a rebellion pack, is it. It's gonna be
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: essentially grassroots, grassroots.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was one of the co founders of
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Just Democrats, Right, So that's AOC and the rest of them,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: and so it later they wound up going into too
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: much culture wars, and that's we split, et cetera. Right,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: But in the beginning, when we first started it same
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: idea of economic populism, et cetera. And I remember I
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: talked to a bunch of reporters. I said, how many
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Justice Democrats you think we're gonna get elected? And they're
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: like zero. But maybe you get lucky somewhere and you
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: get one, right, But there's no way it's more than one.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Got up to eleven? Right. Wow. If I told them
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: last pullout says AOC is the face of the Democratic Party.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: If I told them back in twenty eighteen, not only
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: will this bartender from New York pull off one of the.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Great face of the party.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: And yeah, not only will she pull off one of
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: the greatest political upsets in American history, but she would
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: go on to become the face of the party.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: They would be like, you guys are great, you outsider, populous.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: There's no way that's gonna happen. You have no chance.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: And okay, all right, let's see. So this time we're
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: gonna do it again. We're gonna do it again.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: And when we went in those red districts, then we're
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: gonna go in twenty twenty eight and go Now, they
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: told you they knew how to win, and they gave
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: you Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris. Okay, full
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: of shit.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: And it is in this time they just it's like
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: when they were doing like this last I mean, man,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: when I tell you, I watched all four days of
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: the DNC hoping to be inspired, hoping to be convinced,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: and ah man, it was rough. With that being said,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: it's like the Democratic Party thinks so little of their
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: voters that they think rolling out Beyonce Megan, the stuff,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: whoever it is, is just enough to be like fuck yeah,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: the funniest like CARTI b supporting Kamala fuck everything else.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I'm in, Like what the It's almost like the Republicans,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: the celebrities they roll out are so washed and detrimental
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: to their cause. It doesn't matter because it's not about
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: the celebrities, Like who gives a fuck? Who hault Cogan's
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: fucking endorsing It's a joke, but it's like the.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, Like Republicans are always like, oh, liberal
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Hollywood guys, we don't care. And then they're like, oh,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I got ted Nugents on our side. Ted Nugent, the
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: guy craped his pants to get out of Vietnam. That's
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: the guy you're proud of. Anyways. But the best line,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: with the most hilarious line after the election was Joe
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Reid on MSNBC when she's like, Kamala Harris ran a
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: perfect campaign. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, First of all,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: perfect she lost. Secondly, she lost a popular vote, which
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: seemed nearer impossible. Third of all, she lost every swing state,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: all of them, all of them. And but in the
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: warped reality of MSNBC, she said she ran a perfect campaign.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: She even got Queen Latifa to endorse her, and Queen
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Latifa normally doesn't endorse anyone. I'm like, what the fuck
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: are you talking about? Who gives his shit? Are you insane?
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Who cares? A queen Latifa endorser, And how did that
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: helping Wisconsin?
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: How should help parading List Cheney around or sending fucking
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Bill Clinton to Michigan to talk down to fucking Muslim
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: voters whose families are probably being fucking slaughtered in the
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Middle East. But you're gonna send this confirmed creep, you know,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: to go talk down to these It's like, no shit,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: you lost Michigan, you fucking idiots.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: And think about that. So, both Biden and Kamala Harris
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: knew that the issue of Gaza was probably gonna cost
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: some Michigan. That's what the polling indicated, right, And so
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: in Michigan they had to have. Without Michigan, they couldn't win, right,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: And they chose to go with Apak instead of the voters,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: even though they thought it might cost them the election.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: That's how much.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: How much they have their claws into the political system
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: as an organization, as a foreign organization that should be designated.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so the fact that willing to lose.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: That tells you all they knew. It's almost like it,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: like I said earlier, they would rather lose then change
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: the system. Period.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: There's pretty much.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Money on the line. It doesn't matter who dies, It
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter, None of it matters as long as the
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: system stays in place.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: So now, to be, that's a perfect lead into why
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: they fear the populace left in the Bernie movement more
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: than a Trump or anything else. Why because if they
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: lose to Trump, everybody still keeps their job, right, So
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: like in the Democratic Party, there's no big shake up.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: No, there's never a shakeup, right, there's no.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Shakeup at all. Right, And if Biden stayed in the race,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: even if he lost, his advisors are still in power,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: and they're still attached to the candidate, and they gives
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: them leverage, power, money, fame, status. Right, So they think,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: from my perspective, who cares if Biden loses as long
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: as Biden's the candidate, I'm still in charge. Who cares
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: if the Democrats lose as long as you know, Bernie
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: doesn't win, as long as I still have my job.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Right, the establishment wing is is the face of it.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not going, Chuck Schuber's not going anywhere, you know.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: But if Bernie wins, or this next time around, the
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: next Bernie wins, you know what happens. All those guys
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: in the Democratic Party lose their jobs, yep, so they
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: get replaced by populous, they get replaced by our guys.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: So that's why they hate us way more than they
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: hate Republicans. That's why losing the Republicans is no big deal,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: but losing an internal fight in the Democratic Party is everything.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: That's why when Bernie ran, they're like, oh, Bernie bros.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: You're all sexist and racist. Right.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: He did a great, great job of articulating on that
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: interview he just did. But do you think there's a
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: world in which if we can identify that most of
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: the fringe issues in this country aren't that important, Okay,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: whether it's any of the identity stuff, any of the
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: low hanging fruit, divisive bullshit. If you can say to yourself, okay,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: I see eye to eye with let's call it the
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: populist right, because there is that exists, right, that there
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: are people on the right who are America first, and
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: I want poor people to have healthcare and don't want
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: to go to war. Is there a world in which
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: in our lifetime, because I think the hill entire issue
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: with this, this entire thing is just is is the
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: fact that there's only two options, right at least that's
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: the perception You're able to figure out a way to
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: bring together two factions of the country to just agree
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: on the big shits and create something new. So like
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: if you could get Thomas Massey and Bernie Sanders and
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: aoc in a room or you know, I don't know
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: who else is on the right that's not fucking you know,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: cuckoo for Cocoa plus Tucker Carlson, whatever it is, and
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: everyone's just sitting in a room having a just open
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: an idea, like, hey, look, we already know on this
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: wall this is We're never gonna agree on all this shit.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: But all this shit really doesn't matter. What really matters
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: is healthcare, keeping the American dream alive, all these things
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: that you that all pull well with everybody. But I
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: just feel like it's like the division the labels is
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: what will at least and you know, it was what
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: has prevented anybody breaking out of that show. I mean,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: the Bernie thing is like, you know, man, dude, twenty twenty,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I thought.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: He had it, dude, yeah he did.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: And then South Carolina happens. Joe Biden, when South Carolina
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: the fucking call comes in. I don't know if it's Obama.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Everybody drops everybody drops out uniformly, and they back the
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: old fuck and Bernie's fucking cooked.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so let me let me give you a pathway
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: to your dream. Okay. So we run within the Democratic
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Party in twenty twenty eight, So who's we We don't
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: know who the candidate is going to be yet, right,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: So there's plenty of good folks like I love ro Kanna,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: and maybe it's him, but it could be other people.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: You know, there's there's other plenty of great folks.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: But then there's there Yeah, there might be people we
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: even heard of yet, you know.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the guy that charloam Mane and I are
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: obsessed with is John Stewart, right.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, John Stuart. Would this is listen the
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: fact you say his name. Me and my co host James.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: All we do is talk politics every fucking day. This
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: is like our life. We just talk politics and we
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: are If John Stewart ran, it would be there's no question.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: This guy's got the fucking track record. He's fought for
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: fucking FDNY five.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Oh so he he got a bill passed what he
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't even in Congress, right, yes, he did. He's honest,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: he's smart, he's strong. I can't call him anti semitic,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: can't call by the way that used to drive people crazy.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: It's like, you guys, do realize Burry's Andrews jewish guy,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: also Dave Smith a Jew.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: But yeah no, and I said in twenty twenty, why
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: so they'll get so desk, they'll called Bernie anti semitic.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: And they did, of course, because of course that's it's
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: a one trick boning, right. So if John runs in
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: the Democratic Party or whoever it is, right, whoever's got
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: a head of momentum, right, and so head of steam.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: And so they get to a point where the establishment
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: starts fighting them, and the establisher's gonna do one of
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: two things. They're either gonna let that person keep running
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: in the Democratic primary and they're gonna be fair, in
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: which case that person's going to win and take over
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, right if they or they're gonna say
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: same old tricks like in twenty sixteen. The way that
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: they cheated was they took money from the state parties
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: and funneled to.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton's dncs, the most corrupt.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now if the DNC pulls those tricks again, what's
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: gonna happen next is that person let's just say that
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: it's John. Then John's gonna go Hey, you know what, guys,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I'm a giant celebrity and I was gonna win this thing.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: And we have the polling and it's clear that I
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: was gonna win it, and you guys are cheating. So
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna do. Now We're gonna run
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: as an independence See how you like them? Okay, So
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: now I don't want to go independent, and because that's
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: very hard and you have to raise a lot of money,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: et cetera. But you've got to put the Democratic Party
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: in a position. You got to put the question to them,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: are you going to be fair or aren't you? Is
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: this a real party or is this your corporate bullshit party? Okay,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: so if it's a real party, then our candidate's gonna win.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I think that's the that is the problem is not
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: at least it's been like even with the you know,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: whether or not you like RFK somebody he had some
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: good ideas. You know, I think they changed the rules
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: on him so much where he was like, I have
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: no shot here, guys, I gotta go independent. And then
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: he had to align with Trump, and you know RFK
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: is a wild guy, you know, so, but no, no
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: another I think that's the issue. Is the DNC as
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: a as a entity. I don't know if it's possible.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: That's why it's just like unless the pelosis get you know, out,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: and Chuck Schumer gets primary by IOC, hopefully she primaries
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: in New York City or in New York in the state.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: I just that's the uphill battle that I don't see
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: the light at the end of the tunnel because the
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: DNC is so fucked.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: But I but you see why it makes sense to
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: put them to the test first.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: You have to. But I feel like they were put
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: to the test. No Bernie, But I don't know.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: But Ken Martin, who's the current head of the d NC,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: is more of a Bernie guy. So it's not impossible,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: So don't give up on him. Yet they're like, let's
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: try populous left, let's try it right, Let's try it
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: within the Democratic Party. Let's go and win these primaries
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: in these general elections in twenty twenty six, Let's take
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Congress back so Trump can't do crazy shit, right, and
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: then let's run in twenty eight and let's pick an
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: awesome candidate and let's give them what we got. And
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: if the Democratic Party goes no, we're now officially the
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: corporate party and we don't want anybody, no matter how
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: popular they are. Okay, then they're going to force us
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: to form a third party. But I don't want to.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: And so, by the way, mainstream media will later find
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: this interview like two years for a round and like
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: you see, Yuga was planning a third party all along.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: He's a heretic, he is he was against the Democratic Party.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: We only got a few minutes up, so I want
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: to get two things out the way real quick. Trump.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: You were very optimistic that, hey, let's give this guy
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: a chance. Obviously he's shown that this second go round
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: is a little bit more authoritarian, a lot of bit
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: more authoritarian. The last time, it seemed to this as
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: if he had a decent week in terms of anti
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: war stuff and breaking with bb a bit. But then
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: it kind of felt like it was performative because he
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: was parading around the Middle East. What are the Can
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: you give me one thing that you have liked about
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: the Trump presidency. I know it's hard to say that,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: but is there anything that you know.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's easy. So but but let me
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: correct one that you said. So, No, I was dead
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: set against Trump and.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: No I know, I know, but you were. You were
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: at least very like I say. You know what I
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: liked about you is you were like, I'm not gonna
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: like just not talk to people because of who they supported. Yeah, yeah,
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: which is where I think our country got sucked up.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: I kept talking to my cousin for two years.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, don't do that. So look two things about that.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Number One, after you got elected, I was like, look, guys,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: it's okay to be angry at Trump and his lackey's right,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: but don't get angry at his voters, right, Like, and
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: his voters are not one dude, They're a giant range, sure,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: from like crazy QAnon dude to a guy who was like,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know, prices are too high?
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Right, what do you and a lot of people.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: That was it, Yeah, that was it. Right. So, and
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: for the guy who was worried about inflation, if you
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: call him a racist and a Nazi, he's never gonna
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: vote for you again, ever again, right, So shut up,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: shut up, you win back those voters. You don't insult them, right,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: So I don't mind you hating Trump, just don't hate
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: his voters, right, right. That's point one. Point two is look,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: we've got to find our wins wherever we can find them,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: because this is a long four years, super long, man.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: I mean some of the stuff with the free speech
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: shit and the due process and you know, some of
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: these it's it's just I don't't even watch TV anymore, man.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: And something that again the rad lives don't understand is that, no,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: we're in the populous woods now. And that's what I'm celebrating,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: right because in the old days, you got talking points
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: from Fox News or MSNBC, and everybody was robots. They
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: would just repeat those talking points and you couldn't break
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: through to them. Right right Now that you've got shows
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: the right, left, and in the middle that all have
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: different opinions, it's forcing people to use their minds. Now
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: we're in the ballgame. Now, we're in the ballgame. So
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: then you can go to a populist right or to
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: independence and go, hey, you hated inflation, right, but tariffs
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: are going to create inflation. You hate war, right, but
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: why is Trump paying for Israel's wars? Right? And you
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: know what they're doing. They're going, yeah, you're right, Yeah,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: you're right. And as they're saying you're right, I got
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: the rat libs going, don't talk to them. We should
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: just be in the game by ourselves, Like if we
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: should call them Nazis, God damn it. Stop doing damage.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Stop doing damage. You could bring these people in there.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: So look, so on Trump, what's he doing? Right? So
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: he's terrible on constitutional issues, he's terrible. The tariffs were
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: outrageously high, et cetera. But Nanya who ordered him to
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: attack Iran? And he said no. So if you can't
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: give him credit for that, there's something wrong with you.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: If all of a sudden you're up, you think you're
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: on the left and you're like, well Trump doesn't want
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: war with the wrong, then maybe we should go to
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: war with Iran.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: No, then you're a Then you're just like the cult
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: members that you're you're a cult member.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: You're blue mega Yeah. And so now look a lot
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: of people don't say that. They don't say like, oh,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: then I do want war with Iran. But what they'll
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: say is no, I don't trust Trump and I know,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: I know, but nobody asked you to trust them, right,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: we asked you to give him for the thing he
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: did today, right, so that you encourage him and his
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: magabase and the independence to keep going. That.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: I think his ego is so fragile that he hears
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: the noise. And I actually think his son probably be
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: feeding him shit, Like I feel like his son is
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: super like dad Bbie's dog walking you. And I think
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: his ego, I think Don Junior probably says that kind
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: of shit to his dad because he's so plugged into
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: the Twitter matrix and sees what the bass is saying.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: And I think Trump's ego is so fucked that it's
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: not about the genocide our troops. It's about I'm not
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: gonna let this fucking god fucking yes, yes, come to
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: the White House and home.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Me so so like the the rat libs will be like,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: oh no, you just think Trump's a good guy in
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: your naive Like I don't think Trump's a good guy
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: at all at all, horrible guy, right. No. What I
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: think is he cares about ratings, he cares about the
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: stock market, he cares about his popularity, right, and of
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: course most of all cares about money. Right. So now
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: I want that genocide to stop, and I want us
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: to stop funding Israel. And I want us and not
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: just for the Palestinians, but we're not helping Israel when
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: we fund them, We're enabling their worst instincts and then
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: they're getting hated by the whole world. So it's not
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: helping Israel either. So I want him to stop funding Israel,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: and I don't want him to go war with arm
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: What am I gonna do? Okay? So number one, if
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: I see Katar and all those guys bribing Trump to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: do the Arab plan instead of the Israeli plan, Okay,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: I'm against corruption, and I'll call it out because I'm honest.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: But okay, so all right, take the ship. Let's see
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: what take.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Take the fucking jet.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: If it means kids stop dying, take the fucking jet.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah okay, so, but but I'm still honest and I
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: call it out. Obviously your corruption, right, all right? But yo, okay,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: concouraging that direction most importantly now, if he sees he's
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: losing his base, he's obsessed with his base like Democrats
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: hate their base, but Trump subsessed with his base. He is,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: which is a strength of his Yeah, yeah, yeah, for
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: in politically not policy, but for politics.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: For politics, it works.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So now if you started eroding his base and
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Green and Canvas and and they
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: and Andrew Schultz, Andrew Schultz is not part of his space.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but he voted for Trump. Yeah, but
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: still all these guys are now like, wait, you're kidnapping
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: people off the streets of America because they criticized Israel.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: This is America, This is America. I thought we were
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: voting for you because the other side was anti free.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Speech exactly, exactly.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: And I can't respect RFK anymore because I was a
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: RFK guy for a little bit. But fuck, this guy
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: is his whole thing is free speech and he's running
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: around with Rabbi Shimoli and.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: You gotta go.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: But I want to get a couple of quick points off.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: One would be we are I think in our lifetime,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's anything bigger or more grotesque, or
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that there gonna be a bigger travesty
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  Speaker 2: than what's happening in Gaza. I'm not sure if you
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  Speaker 2: and I will live to see that. Obviously, there's stuff
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  Speaker 2: going on in the Congo as well, but.
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  Speaker 1: We don't fund that.
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  Speaker 2: Is I don't know where the world goes from here.
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  Speaker 2: Is I saw you the UK was talking about sanctions
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  Speaker 2: on Israel. Is it gonna get to like, how does
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  Speaker 2: this thing end? Man?
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  Speaker 1: Like? So, look, power corrupts, absolute power corrupts, absolutely right,
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  Speaker 1: So Israel didn't start out this way. So Israel always
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  Speaker 1: had problems. They've been occupying the Palatinians for fifty eight years.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't happen yesterday. Right now, having said that, it's
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  Speaker 1: gotten much much worse over time, and cool, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And so now we're at Nanyahu's smokes rich In Ben
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  Speaker 1: Givie Ben Gavier is a literal convicted terrorist, aid and
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  Speaker 1: the better terrorism and now Smote rich just two days
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  Speaker 1: ago said we should keep I want to start with
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  Speaker 1: the Palactinians to death. But the world will let us
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  Speaker 1: if they if we do, they won't let us keep Gaza.
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  Speaker 1: So let's keep them on the brink of starvation and
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  Speaker 1: then push them out of the country. That's literally genocide
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  Speaker 1: and ethnic cleansing. And he's saying it out loud, right,
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  Speaker 1: let's do that and then we'll get to keep Gaza
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  Speaker 1: that way. You know, he's basically saying we get to
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  Speaker 1: steal Gaza as long as we don't starve them to death.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just bring them to the brink of starvation. So
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  Speaker 1: they have become what they most feared and despised. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know anything that sounds more fascist. Then that's
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  Speaker 1: those statements. Right, And now Nan Yah, who's just flat
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  Speaker 1: out saying it. Yeah, this is the conquest of Gaza.
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  Speaker 1: It's not about self defense. They're on the offense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They were doing this all long to take land, and
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  Speaker 1: we said that and they're like Auntie Samite, Okay, now
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: they're saying, yeah, we did it for land. So are
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: you now going to apologize to all of us, you
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  Speaker 1: freaking liars? Right? So how does this end? If we
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  Speaker 1: keep funding Israel, they're just gonna get worse and worse
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  Speaker 1: and worse. Then they'll take West Bank, then they'll take
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  Speaker 1: southern Lebanon, they'll take western Syria. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Have the Greater Israel patches on the idea fucking uniform.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they have a map in the Israeli government
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  Speaker 1: of Greater Israel and all the Arab land they planned
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  Speaker 1: to steal. That's just a fact.
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  Speaker 2: This is not a lie. This is literally and they
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  Speaker 2: don't and they talk of that. It's it's crazy. So
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  Speaker 2: it's the funding.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have to cut their funding. And it's
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  Speaker 1: not to hurt them, it's to bring them back to sanity.
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  Speaker 2: It's to make them good neighbors.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Like, so if you're enabling their worst instincts, you're
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: not helping them, you're hurting them. Right, So a US
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  Speaker 1: has to cut all funding to Israel none zero zero zero,
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  Speaker 1: But then the rest of the world has to do
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  Speaker 1: a massive economic boycott.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they have to. I feel like the same
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: way that everyone sanctioned Russia. Why, like what, Yeah, how
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: do you feel about Russia Ukrainian conflict. They did, they
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  Speaker 2: attacked the country, but they did not fucking wipe out
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  Speaker 2: the entire Ukrainian population, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, and what Russia did is also terrible for sure.
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  Speaker 1: But the great example of South Africa, because South Africa
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  Speaker 1: and Israel are not run by dictators. So when you
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: sanction Iraq when it's run by Saddam Hussein, it's never
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  Speaker 1: gonna work because he's a single dictator. It's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: run out of food.
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  Speaker 2: When you sanctioned democracies, the people will vote those people out.
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  Speaker 2: Because they're like, it's fucking up our pockets, our country.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And even before it gets to that level the
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  Speaker 1: businessmen of that country. That's what turned in South Africa oligarchs. Yeah,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: and the oligarchs were like, what the fuck now, we
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: lost our money? Right? Yeah. So if you cost the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: oligarchs of Israel their money just because they're human, not
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: because they're Jewish, just same thing happened in South Africa.
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  Speaker 1: The same thing happens everything, right, they're gonna be like, no, wait,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: same thing happened in Egypt. By the way, it was
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: that a general strike that did mobarikin right. So when
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: you touch the economic power, that's when you're in the ballgame.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: That's why when anybody talks about boycott, the divestment, and
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: sanctioning Israel, that's when the pro Israeli lobby goes nuts.
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  Speaker 3: Joli, that's the most anti Samonic thing that's worse than
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: terrorism and stuff's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: That means that's the one that's the one that's gonna work, right,
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  Speaker 1: giant boycott. I mean, what are we gonna do. We
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: said never again. We said never again, right, and they're
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: starving two million people to death. If you don't do
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  Speaker 1: an economic boycott over that, then you're not ever gonna
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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