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The Attacks By The ATF and Which GOP Candidates Support Gun Rights? · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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Five minutes after the hour. It is the seven o'clock hour in the Eastern
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slash Preston Please tab with us. He is kind enough to make time once
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a month to join us on the program. The Gunwriter Lee Williams, and
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the website is the Gunwriter dot substack dot com. Lee, Good morning,
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Welcome, how are you, oh man, It's great to be here.
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I am very happy it's Friday. It's been a hard couple of weeks for
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our Second Amendment supporters. Yeah, I want to get into some of that,
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but let's work backwards and let's talk a little bit about the debate the
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other night. As you look at the group that's currently you know, under
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consideration for the GOP nomination, who stands out as somebody that is proven or
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we believe to be ardent strong Second Amendment supporters. Good question. I would
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start with the guy who probably won't be on stage very long when we're North
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Dakota Governor Doug Bergham. As far as the Second Amendment is concerned, he's
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a superstar. Signed North Dakota as a Second Amendment sanctuary, got standard ground,
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protected North Dakotan's access to firearms and businesses the expanded constitutional terry. He
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prohibited state agencies from enforcing federal gun laws if they infringe on the Second Amendment.
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I mean the guy is solid. I would say he would be followed
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by your choice here, either Mike Pence or Ron de Sanis. We all
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know Ron's history with the Second Memit. He signed our unlicensed carry bill.
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Mike Pence is a solid rating from NRA as VP governor of Indiana and then
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as a former congressman. The people who don't well Divette. You know,
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we don't know anything about never held public office before, talks a good game
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about guns, but you know a lot of politicians have done that. Nicky
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Haley, she got back into guns this year. She hasn't done anything pro
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gun since twenty ten. And then we get to the bottom of the list.
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Asa Hutchinson veto the bill that would have prohibited local law enforcement from enforcing
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federal gun laws. Tim Scott joined with Cornin, Murphy and Blumenthal to co
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sponsor a bipartisan gun background check bill. And Chris Christie has no business being
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up there. He banned fifty caliber weapons, He's endorsed a series of other
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gun reforms. So I hope that answers your question when you say it's been
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a rough couple of weeks since we last visited a month ago. Detail that
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for us, quantify it. Oh gosh, ats is unrelenting in their war
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and our gun dealers. Remember we talked about the Russell Fincher, a small
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tabletop kitchen table gun dealer in Oklahoma. ATF sent the SWAT team to his
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home, arrested him, basically put handcuffs on him on his porch in front
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of his thirteen year old kid. They seized, never charged him with the
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damn thing. He voluntarily surrendered his license, you know, obviously he was
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coerced into doing that. Scared out of his ever loved mind. They took
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fifty of his guns, including a beautiful Chinese a king that was new inbox
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probably worth four to five thousand dollars. He just got a forfeit letter from
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them. They're going to give him ten dollars per fire off. You've got
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to be kidding me. I wish I was. That's the way they operate.
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I guarantee you that AKA is in some atf agents personal safe at home.
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Yeah, that's the way they operate. Fifty sixty grand worth of worth
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the guns easy, and they're going to give them ten dollars a gun.
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We'll pick that, or you can contest it and risk these federal, nebulous,
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federal charges that they never fully detailed for this guy. It's become a
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criminal organization. If I break into your house with armed fellas and take all
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your guns. I mean, that's armed burglary. My friend the Morning Show
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Preston Scott eleven minutes past the hour, caught up on what's going on weather
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in traffic wise in your area. Lee Williams with us the gun writer on
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the Morning Show. Lee, what is the likelihood that this guy decides to
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go ahead and fight back? I mean, this is this is a popeye
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moment, not just for him, but for thousands of gun dealers across the
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country. Isn't I wish. I mean he voluntarily and that's in finger quotes.
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Brother surrendered his FFL. They tried the same tactic with a guy down
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in Texas, a gun dealer in Texas who is outside of Dallas, and
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he's fighting him. You know he's But the thing is, the deck is
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stacked against these guys. The guy down in Texas, he got a revocation
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letter signed by a female inspector there. When he appeals it, he will
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go in front of the same woman that signed his revocation letter. She will
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run the administrative hearing ATF stack in the deck. The good news is the
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mainstream media finally is starting to pick up on some of their shenanigans. One
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week and Go. Today, Wall Street Journal published a pretty small story letting
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people know that hundreds of gun dealers are losing their license under the Biden Harris
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cracked Thoughts to do Is posted a story a couple hours later. That's great,
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but they kind of got hoodwinked ATF is really good at hoodwinking journalists,
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and that's what happened here. If you look at the statement that they kicked
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out the Fox and Wall Street Journal because you can't get an interview with ATF.
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They don't answer the phone, they don't respond to emails, maybe kick
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out a statement. They started their statement by saying, FFLs our first line
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of defense against gun crime, which is all true, very true. Actually.
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However, then they said FFLs that willfully violate the law must be held
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accountable. Well, about two years ago, Preston, we wrote a story
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on how ATF had redefined the word willful. Now, willful can also include
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some minor clerical error paperwork mistakes, because the ATF believes you've been briefed on
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what the rules are, so if you make a clerical error, you have
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wilfully broken the rules. They've turned negligence into wilfulness. That's how they're hoodwiking
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folks. Plus, they never mentioned the number of atls. If they're scaring
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the hell out of so they voluntarily, again in finger quotes, surrender their
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FFLs. It's getting a handle on the ATF is difficult because it's a criminal
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organization. I keep saying that everybody's talking about defunding FBI, getting rid of
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the FBI director. ATF is far worse. In my humble opinion, it
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sounds like the redefinition of willful was done by the same people that redefined for
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the FDA vaccine. But that's a subject for another day. Okay, So,
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at what point do we get close to having enough bullying that you have
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a really big class action lawsuit against the ATF and some serious pushback. We
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both know Lee that illiberals will do what they want until a court high enough
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says no right. ATF is getting spanked regularly by the courts. They got
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it on bump stocks, They're they're going on a pistol braces, They're going
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to get it on aftermarket triggers. It's the same pattern. You know.
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They want to be judge, jury, and executioner. They want to write
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a rule and then enforce the rule, even though their rules, by the
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way, carry the full weight of law. You go to prison and get
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fine, even though Congress kind of has the responsibility about writing laws. So
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yeah, I think I'd love to see class actions come having been involved in
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them. They are just a bugger to organize and get going. I think
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we're going to have to put up with ATF until Joe Biden gets booted out
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of sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue. That's going to be the quickest way and then
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we can get this agency back under control. Why are they so bad?
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I know you're going to ask, because they've never had They've never valued or
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respected the sanctity of human life. Look at their history. Waco, Ruby
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Ridge, fast and furious, letting all those guns going to Mexico, which
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are still killing Mexican nationals today. Twenty one minutes after the hour, Lee
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Williams, the gunwriter, the gunwriter dot substack dot com. I was just
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telling Lee in the break, we are so fortunate that over the years we
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have been blessed to have favor with people like Lee that are willing to give
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their time and spend time with us to illuminate issues and things that are vital.
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And this is one of those. I keep telling you people. All
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the other amendments in the Constitution hinge on the second without the second, the
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rest are gone. And Lee, we were talking about, ironically, Chris
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Christie being just Chris Christie and New Jersey finding itself now in the focus of
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an absurdity. Tell us about this John Wick qualification test. What the heck
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is this? Well, you know, after the Supreme Court passed Bruin,
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which said that you have a right to carry defensive handgun in public. A
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lot of Blue states, especially New Jersey, started quickly passing a number of
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unconstitutional post bruin tantrum laws, as I call them. And the number one
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stupidest thing I've seen is their new test that you have to pass if you
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want to exercise your constitutional right in New Jersey. That's right, they're testing
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constitutional right which is unconstitutional on its face. So they're Superintendent of State Police
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and their AG dug out this test, this qualification course, fifty round qualification
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course, and brother it is from. It is a nineteen ninety circa police
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qualification test. The reason I know that is I was a police officer in
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the nineties and this is vintage training that requires you if you want to carry
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it gun in New Jersey and exercise your constitutional right, you have to shoot
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at twenty five yards, which in New Jersey we both know you shoot somebody
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at twenty foot of yards, you're gonna be charged with murder. You have
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to shoot it off from an open carry holster, even though civilians can't carry
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openly in New Jersey, only police can. You have to shoot from a
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kneeling position. You have to shoot off hand, you have to use what
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they called the point shoulder shooting stands. And I do another radio show with
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my buddy Bob Keller, who was a veteran of Delta course and probably the
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best instructor out there right now training civilians. He's got a range in Fort
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Mead, Florida. He didn't even know a point point shoulder was because it's
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that old. And Bob's literally been in four hundred gunfights and trained thousands of
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civilians and swat teams had never heard of point shoulder. I had to explain
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it to him on the radio. And this thing is crazy and only in
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New Jersey. Now, yes, we're probably going to see New Jersey getting
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sued over this because last time they started testing constitutional rights were the literacy tests
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in the South and the forties and fifties where they were trying to discourage folks
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of color from voting. But that doesn't matter in the people's Republic of New
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Jersey. I'd like to thank all the folks that's in New Jersey who sent
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me copies of this thing. But it is absolutely hilarious. Kneeling go to
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a range, go to an indoor range right now, telling me you want
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to practice from a kneeling position. I've only known one indoor range that would
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allow that, and they stopped it after one of their customers put the target
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too close and then quired five rounds right into their ceiling. So yeah,
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the big thing is you can't require folks to kneel because of the Americans with
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Disability Act. They're violating the ADA and they should. They're being and I
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loved using this word when I speak about New Jersey. They're being very ablest
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prest in their requirements. I mean, if you have a mobility issue,
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you know, I don't like shooting from my kney. I don't even train
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shooting for my knees because it's silly. If you know how to shoot,
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you know how to do a ready up jail, you get your site to
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aligned and everything, you shouldn't have to worry about shooting from crazy positions because
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you know how to shoot. But yeah, in New Jersey, they're going
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to be testing you from point shoulder. It's just it's absolutely hilarious. It
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would be a lot funnier if it wasn't so serious, because you've got to
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pass this thing in order to exercise your constitutional right. But this just buttresses
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the point we were talking about. Not only are all of these little sub
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factors, these subcategories of training, many of them, like you mentioned,
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the kneeling against the Constitution, against the law, against any number of other
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things. But this gets back to that same issue. They will do what
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they darn well please until they're stopped by a court. Yeah, and this
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one, I work at a Second Amendment Foundations. It's, in my humble
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opinion, it's the best organization out there. We have fifty three active lawsuits
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right now in this country trying to restore our Second Amendment rights here and there.
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If we don't sue New Jersey over this, when I'm sure gun owners
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of America and are a New Jersey organizations will be stepping up to sue them
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too, because this is clearly and patently unconstitutional. I assume they'll be bringing
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back the literacy test next. That's that crazy. What would you say to
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people listening right now, Lee that you know obviously a majority of people listening
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are Floridians, South Georgians that are listening to the program right now. What
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kind of vigilance do we need to maintain? What should we be looking for?
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We need constant vigilance because it only takes a couple of lawmakers to sneak
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some crap in. I feel very happy here in Florida with our constitutional rights.
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I would love to see open carry added. I'm also on the board
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of Florida Carry. We and the other program organizations in the state will be
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battling hard to get open carry because it's you know, it's part of keeping
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their arms. It's part of the second can amend it. But for the
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folks in New Jersey, I will just say this, John has a long
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mustache. Okay, we'll watch a couple of movies. You'll figure that out.
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They're so far behind the curve there, I don't even know what to
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say to him. I mean, my heart goes out to those poor folks
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up there, especially when you look at crime and some of the major cities
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in New Jersey. Right, all right, Lee, As always, we
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run out of time before we run out of topics. But thanks so much
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for what you do. Keep writing and we'll keep reading and we'll talk again
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next month. Thank you so much. Congrat on your five thousand show coming
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up. I will be listening, sir, Thank you very much. Lee
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Williams with us the gunwriter dot substack dot com, subscribe, do it now,
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