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Innovators & Disruptors: Cate Mayer & Jeanine Abrams McLean: The Power of “Being For Something”
In this episode, Kristine Michie sits down with Cate Mayer of Be the Ones and Jeanine Abrams McLean of Fair Count to explore how joy, play, and creativity can transform civic engagement. Together, they challenge the idea that disengagement is a personal failure, reframing it as a response to systems that leave people feeling unseen and disconnected from power.
Through stories like the monks' Peace Walk that captured global attention and rural bus tours filled with moments of wonder, they show how shared experiences rebuild trust and inspire participation. Their work expands civic life beyond…
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