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Ep. 463: Rut Fresh Radio 10/6/2021 - Beating the October Lull · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Wire to Hunts rut Fresh Radio, bringing you
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  Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now
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  Speaker 1: your host, Spencer new Hearth. This is Wire to Haunt
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  Speaker 1: swat Fresh Radio powered by First Light. I am your host,
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  Speaker 1: Spencer new Hearth, and this week we're talking about beating
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  Speaker 1: the October law. Welcome to Wire to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio.
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  Speaker 1: This is episode four hundred sixty three. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: Spencer new Hearth, and I am joined by Mark Kenyon. Now, Mark,
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  Speaker 1: last time we talked, Um, you talked about how you
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  Speaker 1: were excited for opening day and how this opening day
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  Speaker 1: was going to be different because the next time we
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  Speaker 1: would record, you'd have a great story to tell us
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  Speaker 1: about the big buck that you killed. Did that happen? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I want to I want to qualify what you just said.
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  Speaker 1: I told you that I'm hoping I will have a
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  Speaker 1: different kind of story in which I killed a big buck.
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  Speaker 1: But as things often go, I'll have a close call
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  Speaker 1: or something thing, and uh, it went kind of like
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  Speaker 1: what I called, which is that I actually had a
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  Speaker 1: good encounter sort of and uh, I just wasn't able
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  Speaker 1: to get him killed. So the the high level cliff
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  Speaker 1: notes of The story was that I went out. I
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  Speaker 1: had a plan for the first night, and actually got
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  Speaker 1: a cell phone camera picture mid day that actually changed
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  Speaker 1: my plan a little bit. Um, because the buck I'm
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  Speaker 1: after is this this fuck that I've been calling rookie
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  Speaker 1: of the year. I saw him last year, A bunch
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  Speaker 1: passed on him, a bunch and he was like this
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  Speaker 1: really great up and comer that I noticed last year,
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  Speaker 1: and so this year he he grew into what I
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  Speaker 1: hoped he would. And he's been showing up quite a
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  Speaker 1: bit in daylight. I got out of him, seen them
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  Speaker 1: from the hillside, glassing out there. I've gotten quite a
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  Speaker 1: few daylight pictures. Um. But he disappeared for the last week,
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  Speaker 1: and then the night before the opener, I got a
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  Speaker 1: daylight photo of him on one of my cameras about
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  Speaker 1: a hundred yards are so away from where I was
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  Speaker 1: planning on hunting on opening night. Um, so not far away,
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  Speaker 1: but just another just a little ways over and deeper
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  Speaker 1: into the cover. So because of that, I thought, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he probably got pressured a little bit by you know,
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  Speaker 1: someone coming out last weekend that stuff up or just whatever.
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  Speaker 1: He just shifted patters a little bit. So waiting and
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  Speaker 1: not coming out to these food plots until after dark.
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  Speaker 1: But he showed up in daylight and the other spot
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  Speaker 1: so I don't have anything set up there, so I
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  Speaker 1: snuck in there with a saddle and got all set
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  Speaker 1: and ended up seeing a lot of deer, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of activity that opening night October one. On a one
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  Speaker 1: to ten scale spencer, I would give it like a
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  Speaker 1: six and a half to a seven maybe. UM. I
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  Speaker 1: think I saw ten bucks um, just as many, probably
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  Speaker 1: more does um. And the short version of what happened
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  Speaker 1: was that a lot of deer come out, A lot
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  Speaker 1: of deer came feeding and passing by me, and all
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  Speaker 1: was really good until the last like half hour daylight,
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  Speaker 1: maybe four to seven minutes of daylight, and the wind
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  Speaker 1: settled down and just got completely still. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that I just had that when pool just dropped right
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  Speaker 1: beneath me. Pooled, and I had so many deer around me.
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  Speaker 1: There was deer that were feeding right beneath me, and
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  Speaker 1: they eventually got my way into the dose boots. She
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  Speaker 1: ran off and just kept blowing and blowing and blowing
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  Speaker 1: and blowing and blowing and would not stop. So I'm thinking, well,
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  Speaker 1: there's a hunt. Um, there's no way that rookie's gonna
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  Speaker 1: come out but low and the whole. Like ten minutes later,
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  Speaker 1: here he comes. And he stepped out from across the
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  Speaker 1: creek about a hundred and fifty yards away with another
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  Speaker 1: really nice buck, this short nine pointer that I saw
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  Speaker 1: a lot passed on last year, who actually looks a
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  Speaker 1: lot better now this year than I realized. They both
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  Speaker 1: come walking out. They come out of the timber on
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  Speaker 1: the cover stop on the edge of the great kind
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  Speaker 1: of air in my direction where that doe was blowing. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought, okay, any second out there in a
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  Speaker 1: boat and run back the way they came. But they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: They just stood there and watched for a while, and
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  Speaker 1: then they said, and they kept walking down the creek
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  Speaker 1: towards where my food plot was and where I would
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  Speaker 1: have been hunting if I hadn't got the daylight picture
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  Speaker 1: of him. Um. And so they walked out that way
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  Speaker 1: and eventually got out of my side. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that they made it into the food plot until after dark.
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  Speaker 1: Looks like they hung up on the edge and the cover. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought where they came out of. So the
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  Speaker 1: next day I thought, okay, I'm gonna slip in there
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  Speaker 1: in the afternoon and hang a new set where those
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  Speaker 1: deer came in. But I was able to. I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: hunt the morning, but I could the last in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: But glass that air in the morning and watched them
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  Speaker 1: go right back in that way. But I thought, lam
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  Speaker 1: dunk tonight, i'mnna slip in. There was gonna be storming,
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  Speaker 1: hang a new set deep in that stuff right where
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  Speaker 1: coming out. That's what I ended up doing. It was
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  Speaker 1: pouring rain, snuck in there of a long ways around.
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  Speaker 1: Everything was perfect, made sure the wind it was right,
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  Speaker 1: stay away, far away from where I thought. These deer
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  Speaker 1: betting flipped in their stilken wet got a battle set
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  Speaker 1: up in the tree right word. They passed by both
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  Speaker 1: the night before and that morning going back to bed,
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  Speaker 1: and uh they didn't show. A bunch of deer came through,
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  Speaker 1: but the big boys didn't show, and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was fun. I had some some good sightings. They
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  Speaker 1: were there. I was in the game, but I didn't
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  Speaker 1: quite come together. And that was that was all the
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  Speaker 1: time I had because I had ticked off for for
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  Speaker 1: my next trip here. So that was my story. It's
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  Speaker 1: not as good as I know you wished it would
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  Speaker 1: be Spencer, but but hey, you know it's I think
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  Speaker 1: when you've got the opportunity to get eyes on the
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  Speaker 1: target buck, that's a good hunt. And uh, that's that
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  Speaker 1: was exciting. Yeah, I I didn't know there were ten
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  Speaker 1: bucks in Michigan. You said you saw ten bucks on
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  Speaker 1: the first evening. Um, yeah, well, what do you credit
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  Speaker 1: like the great movement too? It sounds like there was
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  Speaker 1: a lot of buck activity. Maybe not within twenty yards
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  Speaker 1: of your tree stand or your saddle, but it sounds
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  Speaker 1: like the bucks were up and on their feet. Why
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  Speaker 1: do you think that was? It was like that opening
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  Speaker 1: weekend mentality we talked about last week, where uh, these
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  Speaker 1: deer were just largely unpressured. That's the biggest thing I think,
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  Speaker 1: I really do think. I mean, there's nothing really special
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  Speaker 1: about it. There wasn't any kind of conditions. It was warm,
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  Speaker 1: it was mid seventies. Um. You know, there was a
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  Speaker 1: big rainfront coming through the next day, like maybe even
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  Speaker 1: that night. It was just to start raining. Um, So
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  Speaker 1: there was a big precipitation week ahead. So maybe there
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  Speaker 1: was some kind of pre storm system sugar to feed possibly, Um,
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  Speaker 1: But it was just unpressured deer. It was the biggest thing.
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  Speaker 1: Those deer were moving around. They're very comfortable. I had
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  Speaker 1: not been done to this property, done anything, you know,
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  Speaker 1: since basically the beginning of September, so had been untouched
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  Speaker 1: for a month. And even before that, I really hadn't
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  Speaker 1: gone back into any of the cover anything excepted to
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  Speaker 1: do that little bit of food plus stuff at the
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  Speaker 1: very front for two months. Um. And these deer, I
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  Speaker 1: think we're just fat, happy and fasty and hadn't been
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  Speaker 1: bothered in a while, and so they were. So that night,
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  Speaker 1: those deer were active and unconcerned. And then you know,
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  Speaker 1: day two not as much. So they react quickly after
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  Speaker 1: that incident, um, Which is why I like that first night,
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  Speaker 1: because you get those special chances and just wasn't quite closeness.
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  Speaker 1: On that note, we're approaching a period that haunters referred
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  Speaker 1: to as the October law, which roughly lasts about the
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  Speaker 1: next two weeks, and as we've discussed before, there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of misconceptions about white tailed buck behavior this
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  Speaker 1: time of year. What are some of the things mark
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  Speaker 1: that hunters should consider when getting in the woods anytime
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  Speaker 1: between roughly now and October. All right. So we've done
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  Speaker 1: this many years now, so I've I think I've gotten
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good, short and sweet explanation of my take
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  Speaker 1: on the October law. I'll try to even do it
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  Speaker 1: more tight and efficiently, and you can grade me when
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  Speaker 1: i'm done. All right, I'm in the basic gist here, right.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone says that October law of the time pier deer
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  Speaker 1: don't move. They're not gonna move during daylight. It's either
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  Speaker 1: not worth hunting or it's gonna be lousy hunting. Blah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah. And the interesting thing, though, is that while
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  Speaker 1: so many hunters say that's the case, the science is
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  Speaker 1: not backed that up. We've talked to folks like Matt
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  Speaker 1: Ross or Lindsay Thomas Jr. From the NDA, and they
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  Speaker 1: frequently cite studies the show that actually deer activity about
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  Speaker 1: activity in particular, actually steadily rises throughout the entire month
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  Speaker 1: of October. So what gives what's going on here? Why
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  Speaker 1: does it disconnect? The biggest thing I think is that
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  Speaker 1: there is a perceived lull. Hunters do experience a lull,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not because deer on moving. It's this deer
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  Speaker 1: moving differently, and we many hunters are not reacting to
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  Speaker 1: those changes. So once October sets it, what's changing. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Number one, this whole thing was hunting pressure. I just
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  Speaker 1: talked about where the deer were comfortable before hunting season,
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  Speaker 1: and now that by the second day they shifted. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's a real thing. Deer are reacting to hunters in
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  Speaker 1: the woods. So by the time we get to mid October,
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  Speaker 1: there have been hunters out in the woods bothering these
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  Speaker 1: deer for several weeks, if not more than that, depending
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  Speaker 1: on where you are. So right there, that's changing dear behavior.
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  Speaker 1: But how many people do you know. Let's be honest,
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  Speaker 1: we all know somebody like this who hunts the same
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  Speaker 1: place until one it's hun the same place the weekend
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  Speaker 1: of the seventh, eight on the same place, the fifteenth
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  Speaker 1: to the sixteen, on the same place, the nineteenth and
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  Speaker 1: the twenty, and they wonder why they don't see any deer. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there's a simple answer that. So you've got that you've
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  Speaker 1: got changing food sources, right, corns drying down, crops are
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  Speaker 1: coming out, eight corns are hitting the ground, deer changing
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  Speaker 1: their feeding behavior. Then you have cover changing, You've got
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  Speaker 1: leaves following, you've got grasses, you know, getting tamps down,
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  Speaker 1: drying out, different things like that. So in general, the
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  Speaker 1: habitats changing and dear behaviors changing, both because of hunting
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  Speaker 1: pressure and because of all the other natural things that
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  Speaker 1: are changing in the deer. So all that makes for
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  Speaker 1: different movement patterns, moving at different times, going different places.
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  Speaker 1: If we as hunters aren't able to adjust to that,
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  Speaker 1: and we try to keep doing the same while sam
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  Speaker 1: wile thing, then yeah, you're gonna see the law. So
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  Speaker 1: my take from hunting perspective is that if you know
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  Speaker 1: how to make those adjustments, if you have places where
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  Speaker 1: you can get in there tighter to cover where those
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  Speaker 1: deer spending the daylight hours, now, keep on after it.
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  Speaker 1: On the flip side, if you don't know those spots yet,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't have a good handle on how these
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  Speaker 1: deer reacting to hunting pressure, and you have got one
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  Speaker 1: little spot to hunt, and you know that if you
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  Speaker 1: hunt it too much is gonna get messed up, then
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  Speaker 1: maybe this is a time to slow down a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: go hunt some public land elsewhere, and wait till the
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  Speaker 1: rut come back to your little spot when there'll be
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more forgiving, and the behaviors will change
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  Speaker 1: in another way because it's advantageous two hunters who maybe
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  Speaker 1: don't know the specific you know, betting areas and whatnot
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  Speaker 1: as much. UM. So that's that's a high level take
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  Speaker 1: on the reality of the October Law and how we
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  Speaker 1: experience it. UM that cover right, do I get a
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  Speaker 1: decent grade? Passed A plus? That that was great UM
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  Speaker 1: And in a big theme of what you talked about
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  Speaker 1: was the changing food sources, and that's something that you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna hear all of our interviews UM covered this week
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  Speaker 1: being Bomartonic in Pennsylvania from East Meat to West Hunt,
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  Speaker 1: and then Jordan Couch and Tennessee from White Tail Properties.
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  Speaker 1: Then we talked to Doug Durn in Wisconsin, and then
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  Speaker 1: we end with Caleb Combs in Oklahoma from Stewart Ranch Outfitters.
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  Speaker 1: And you're gonna hear all those folks talk about some
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  Speaker 1: of the same themes that you just covered. And then finally,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't want the October Law to be the
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  Speaker 1: October Law and you need to hunt differently, is Mark
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  Speaker 1: just discussed. We have some reading material that will help
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  Speaker 1: you get UH in the right setups for the right
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  Speaker 1: time of year. Some of those articles are how to
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  Speaker 1: make a horizontal rub that you, Mark wrote and as
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  Speaker 1: you wrote in the article, Mark, early October is a
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  Speaker 1: perfect time to create and hunt a horizontal rub. And
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  Speaker 1: then we have three places to kill a buck during
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  Speaker 1: the October Law by Alex Gilstrom. Alex talks about the
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  Speaker 1: three setups that are ideal for punching a tag during
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  Speaker 1: the first three weeks of October. And then we have
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  Speaker 1: how to deer Haunted staging Area by Tony Peterson. Tony
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  Speaker 1: discusses how to identify a staging area and why they're
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  Speaker 1: so valuable for white tail hunters this time of year.
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  Speaker 1: And then finally, how to kill a buck in October
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  Speaker 1: by you again, Mark. Mark Ley is out of game
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  Speaker 1: plan for getting it done during an intimidating part of
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  Speaker 1: the season and goes over strategies for hunting early October,
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  Speaker 1: mid October, and late October. Sounds like a hell of
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  Speaker 1: a slave spencer. Alright, Mark, I'm looking forward to hearing
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  Speaker 1: your deer report next week because you are on a
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  Speaker 1: cell phone, which means you're out in the field doing
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  Speaker 1: something really fun and we can discuss more on the
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  Speaker 1: next episode. I will talk to you then, Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: I'll have a report from Washington freaking d C. Looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to different alright, and joining us on the line
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  Speaker 1: first is Bou Martinic from East meets West in Pennsylvania,
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  Speaker 1: now bowin Pennsylvania. What would you say the bucket he's
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  Speaker 1: been lately on a scale of one to ten, I'd
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  Speaker 1: say the book activity lately has been about an eight
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  Speaker 1: in the mornings, and I'd say about a six or
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  Speaker 1: seven in the evenings. It's been really cold temperatures in
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  Speaker 1: the mornings, which has helped with the movement. In the evenings,
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  Speaker 1: it's been getting pretty hot, almost unseasonably warm weather. That
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  Speaker 1: slowed down a little bit, but with low amount of
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  Speaker 1: hunting pressure with the season just opening on Saturday, it
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  Speaker 1: was still decent movement. Now, you just killed a giant
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  Speaker 1: this opening weekend. Tell us about that set up, why
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  Speaker 1: you were in that area, why that buck was in
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  Speaker 1: that area, and what went endo scouting for that deer. Yeah. So,
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  Speaker 1: I I had known about this deer for a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years and had his sheds and had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of intel on them, probably more than any other deer
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  Speaker 1: that I was hunting. And what happened was I noticed
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  Speaker 1: that a patterns this buck moving on a particular trail
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  Speaker 1: on a southwest wind which we had for opening mornings,
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  Speaker 1: and with the temperatures being right around forty degrees at
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  Speaker 1: first light, I thought it'd be a good time to
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  Speaker 1: move in on it. And how I moved in with
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  Speaker 1: the setup was it was actually a crick bottom set up,
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  Speaker 1: and he was coming from a new logging cut heading
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  Speaker 1: back to bed with that southwest wind in his face.
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  Speaker 1: But if I sat in a tree, which I did,
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  Speaker 1: right on the creek bank, the thermals would pull my
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  Speaker 1: wind down the creek. So even though on the ground
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  Speaker 1: just ten feet in front of my tree, that southwest
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  Speaker 1: wind was going in the face of the deer, he
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  Speaker 1: could not snow me up in the tree at that
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  Speaker 1: particular spot. So it was kind of a bulletproof set
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  Speaker 1: up from that standpoint. So I decided to get aggressive
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  Speaker 1: and get in there close to bedding in that bottom
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  Speaker 1: there before he went up to bed. And he came
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  Speaker 1: in actually quite a bit after first light. It was
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  Speaker 1: eight am when he came in on the trail. Um
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  Speaker 1: gave in front of me a fourteen yards. Now, how
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  Speaker 1: much scouting went into this October second opener? Were you
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  Speaker 1: doing scouting in September and all some was this something
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  Speaker 1: that you just put together because of historical patterns. So
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  Speaker 1: there's a couple of things. I did put a lot
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  Speaker 1: of time in the summer and particularly in September trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure out what the best food source is gonna be.
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  Speaker 1: And the area had not very many oak trees, and
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  Speaker 1: the ones that had them didn't have acorns. I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: finding any apple trees that had a lot of apples
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  Speaker 1: on it, so it was hard to find that dominant
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  Speaker 1: food source. And what ended up being was a fresh
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  Speaker 1: logging cut was seen to be through using the most
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  Speaker 1: and in my setup, actually I had a beech tree
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of these hemlocks that was dropping beech
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  Speaker 1: nuts and the deer were feeding on them. So I've
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  Speaker 1: had a camera there all summer on that trail and
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  Speaker 1: was kind of seeing their patterns a little bit, but
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  Speaker 1: mostly I used data from the late season of last
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  Speaker 1: year where this buck used this trail going to feed
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  Speaker 1: in that logging cut and coming out and going back
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  Speaker 1: to bed. So I used that data knowing that and
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  Speaker 1: and the big was a lot of the time their
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  Speaker 1: early season in late season habits are very similar, especially
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  Speaker 1: when there's not any oaks and there's not any apples,
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  Speaker 1: So going by that, that's when I made the decision
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  Speaker 1: to move in. You said that morning movement has been
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  Speaker 1: superior to evening movement as of late. Is that something
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  Speaker 1: that you traditionally experience in mid to early October in Pennsylvania? Not? Normally.
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  Speaker 1: It all depends on the weather. For that, I noticed.
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  Speaker 1: Normally in in early October, the first few days of
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  Speaker 1: the season, before you start getting some hunting pressure and
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  Speaker 1: things start to change a little bit, you might be
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  Speaker 1: able to get some daylight movement in the mornings, but
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  Speaker 1: normally that's associated with the cold front. Other times, if
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: it's relatively warmer, not getting down at night, then they're
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: going back to bed at least an hour before it's
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: even daylight, so it's a lot harder in the mornings
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: at that time. Normally evenings are superior. But for these circumstances,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: the morning seemed to have been better. Just from my
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: own experience and then from my troop. What are you
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: seeing for signmaking right now? Scrapes are starting to pop up.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: He got some rubs, but nothing, nothing too aggressive. They've
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: been working in the licking branches a lot more than
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: actually palling up the ground on the scrapes, So there's
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: a decent amount of that still going on, but uh,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: they're just starting to kinda pawp the ground a little bit.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Mostly on the community scrapes are the ones that are
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: um more of the annual ones. How is hunting signmaking
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: different in the big words versus maybe more traditional white
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: tail landscapes in the Midwest. I think in the big woods,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: especially in the low deer density areas, they tend to
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: make a lot of signs, And I think that's because
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: there's there's a good buck to doe ratio, so they're
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: trying to show their dominance, and and they're at least
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: in the areas that that I've hunted, they seem to
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: be leaving a lot more signs. So it's important to
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: focus on what sign is actually important rather than just
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the clutter of sign that you see. There will be
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of scrapes and a lot of rubs, but
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: there's ones in particular that are there are more important. Others.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: You said how food sources were important for killing this book.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: What are a lot of the natural food sources that
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you're focused on in the month of October in the
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: big woods. Acorns would be number one if they're in
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the area and um, actually it's probably a tie for
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Number one would be apple. If you can find a
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: remote apple tree that another hunter has its found already
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: and it's it's you know, one of the only food
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: sources in the area, that's a big sign. The third
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: option would be logging cuts and particularly fresh ones that
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: have a lot of greenery still, um, a lot of
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: new growth that's coming up. Those are the three big
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: ones that I'm that I'm focusing on focusing on outside
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: of brows and beech nuts and things along those lines
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: going forward than in sex week or so. What do
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: you think that bucket activity is going to be on
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten in Pennsylvania. I don't think.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be that great. I think
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be about a five. I mean it's still
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: maybe even a six. It's it's a little bit better
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: since hunting season has just come in and hasn't been
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: a ton of pressure yet. But at the same time,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: there is a decent amount of people in the woods
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: now starting to stir things up. Food sources they're changing
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: depending on how the acorns are dropping, so it might
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: be a little bit more difficult as we get into,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: you know, the end of the first week and second
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: week of October. Alright, Bow, congrats again on the great buck.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: If you want to read more of Bo's content, he
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: writes very often for Wired hunt, Uh, specifically for deer
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: hunters in the Big Woods. Thanks again, Bo, and good
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: luck with the rest of your season. Thanks Spencer, all
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: right and joining us on the line. Next is Jordan's
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: couch from White Tail Properties in Tennessee. Jordan in Tennessee,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activity has been lately
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten. On a scale
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: of one to ten, I've got to say it's probably
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: a three or four reason thing is uh. The signmaking
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I've seen has been very little of it. I've seen
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: a small rub here, there um no scrapes yet, So
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: it's just it's been really slow so far. Historically in Tennessee,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: when do you usually see signmaking pick up? Mid October
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: is usually when I see a lot of rubs and
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of scrapes start popping up. I feel like
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: our absolute best time to hunt in Tennessee is probably
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the second week in November, which is our muzzleloader season,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and uh, that's when I've seen my biggest and the
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: most bucks. What food sources are you focused on this
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: time of year in Tennessee? So this time of year,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I've seen, um, some white oaks, some chestnut oak um,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: but it's not like a crazy high amount. The pre
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: cemetriies in my area are loaded this year, though I
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: have noticed a lot of that. So UM, a couple
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: of times I've gone out this year just looking for
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: a dough, I've I've sat on for cemeteries and I've
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: seen those each sit in Tennessee. What does a good
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: cold front look like for you guys? This month? A
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: good cold front right now? Um? Well, I was looking
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: at the weather this week. It's we're gonna have showers
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: basically all week long, but the temperatures are gonna stay
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: high seventies, low eighties into this weekend, which is unfortunate. Um.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Talking to a buddy last night, Um, he was fortunate
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: and wants to capitalize on a on a good buck
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: last night right after some rain had pushed through. So
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: this time of year, I really think it's just all
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: it's on the weather, Like, watch your fronts if you
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: can get ahead of it or hunt right behind it.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I think that's when your best chance of capitalizing on
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the buck is gonna be. Are you doing any morning
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: setups in early to mid October? Early to mid October,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I do not hunt mornings. I typically only hunt evenings.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: And that's just because I want to save my best
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: sits for when I know the bucks are gonna be
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: more active. And that's that late October early November time
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: frame for us. And where are you running your trail
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: cameras right now? Traill cameras right now? I love uh
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: cemetery just because I want to see what's around and
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I get a lot of Cody's. Interestingly enough on per sentons,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I must really like them. But um that and water
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: sources because some of the properties I have I don't
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: have a lot of water on them, so I'd just
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: like to see what comes to get a drink. So
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you mentioned hunting water. Is that something that's a factor
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: for you all all along? Or is that mostly for
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: hunting October? Mostly October? And this year has been kind
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: of dry with just now started getting some rain, but
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: it's it's been dry the last couple of weeks in
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Neast Tennessee. So That's why I think that these rains
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: that are coming up. I think of guys are out
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: there um hunting their fronts then, you know, and keeping
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the wind in their favorite courts and picking the right stand.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a good time to capitalize
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: early season going forward. Then in this next week or so,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket TV is going to
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Tennessee
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: unless we got a wicked cold front. I'm gonna say
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: it's probably gonna stay that the four. Um. It's just
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like our bucks are super just this
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: part of the year unless you got some killer food sources,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: if you got some good plots or something like that,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: and you might have a good a good chance of
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: getting a bug. But if you're hunting the hard woods,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be tough until that road kicks in.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Are Jordan, good luck with the rest of your season,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and thanks for joining me. Thank you Spencer for you
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: as well, all right and joining us on the line.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Next is Doug during in Wisconsin. Now, Doug in Wisconsin,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activity has been lately
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten? Well, I would
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: say it's increasing, and I would say on a scale
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: one to ten, a four to a five, um up
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: from a one to a two two weeks ago. But
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: in the last two weeks or just definitely been an
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: uptick in activity. Now I know you recently had some
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: deer hunters on the farm. Give me a synopsis of
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: what they were seeing this weekend. Um. Well, uh, one
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: guy took a nice though. He was on the edge
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: of a uh C RP and cornfield in a fence row.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: But the deer activity was really in the woods. Um,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: acorns are coming down. One of my other friends who
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: was hunting, uh, said that he went up in this
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: oak flat we call it, and he said, I felt
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: like he needed a hard helmet on the way that
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: acorns were coming down and the deer were coming into him. Now,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: how long do acorns stay relevant for you on the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: farm in Wisconsin? Well, I think part of what happens
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: is they really they like them early and then they're
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: there for a long You know, they're there for a
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: long time, and of course we like to think that
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: we were going to get some oak regeneration. Some of
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: them are left as well. Um, but they will they'll
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: move off of those. As the temperature sort of uh
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: you know, get colder, they'll get down in there. As
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: the corn gets picked and there's corn stubble, they'll work that,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and and soybeans and um. So all of those changes
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: are happening at this time the year, just like it
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: seems like they do every year. But um, it's been real.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: It's We've had a really nice fall weatherwise. Um, maybe
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: a little too warm, which is a part of the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: might be a part of the problem in the deer
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: not pranking up that much. But I think for the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: first week of October, we're seeing some really nice, uh
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: broad activity. Besides acorn, what are some other natural food
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: sources that should be relevant for deer hunters in that
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: part of the state. Well, um, there's a lot of
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: brows um in the woods. Um we have uh you
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: know by burnhams and and uh, thimbleberries and and there's
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: a whole manner of stuff, and of course the blackberries
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: and raspberries. But there's there's plenty of brows in the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: in the woods um and then field edges um you
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: know like on our place, our whole farmers in CRP,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and there's nothing really special plants in our edges. But um,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: those edges because we keep them. We we mowed two
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: or three times a year, and that's that fresh green
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: all the time. So you know, may not be a
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: native source, but we've got some warm season, the cool
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: season grasses in there along with you know, there's gonna
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: be clover and that sort of thing. So those edges,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: those edges foods as well. Following the harvest, if corn
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: and beans in the area, what sort of shift do
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: you see in dear behavior and deer movement? It's interesting,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't know how many uh, deer are
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: in a corn field until it's picked, right, you can't
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: see you can't see them out there. We see once
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: the leagues come off of the beans around here, then
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: you don't see the deer in them as much for
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: quite a while. And they seem to return to them
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: as the temperatures go down there out there, they forage
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: on those leaves. Uh, you know, much of the summer
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: in the early fall. But now our our beans are
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: drying down. Um, and then we see more deer in
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: picked corn fields than we do in standing corn but
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: or that's because the cord has gone right. What are
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you seeing for signmaking right now. That's pretty cool. That's
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: that's pretty interesting. We're seeing um, just for my trail cameras,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing um bucks starting to spend some time at
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: those licking branches that they traditionally have used. UM we
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: have on a lot of field edges. We have pin oaks.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: It's a red oak slash black oak, and a lot
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: of low hanging branches on those and I'm picking I'm
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: picking up you know, activity there um and seeing all
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: manner of bucks. Uh. Seems seems like a lot of
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: distinctive young bucks right now. And are you seeing better
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: movement in the mornings or evenings in early October? Well,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: most of what we've been hunting and that I tend
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: to get out a little bit more in the evening,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: so I guess I have to say evenings, but I
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: really don't have that much to compare it to because
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: in the mornings I'm generally not out and around um
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: or hunting. So going forward, then, in this next week
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: or so, what do you think that buck ATTV is
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: going to be on a scale of one to ten
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: in Wisconsin? Oh, I think you're going to see it
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: going up and you know, will be in that six
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: seven range. Um. Honestly, just in the last couple of
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: nights on the trail cameras, they had some cell cameras out. Um,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing that there's more bucks showing up in the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: last couple of nights. And the thing that was really
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: encouraging is I actually posted a picture on Instagram out
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: of a really nice buck that one of my hunters
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: came out seventy five yards a hundred yards away and
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: never he came any closer, but he entertained him for
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: an hour and kept him nervous. So during daylight hours
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: seeing a more mature buck, that tells me that he
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: is pretty uh, pretty comfortable. Um. So. And then there's
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: we've got some others on camera that we're seeing them
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: not just in the middle of the night, but um
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: during the and most of those are evening hours, so
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: you know, late afternoon evening. All right, Doug, good luck
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: to you and everyone else on the Durn Farm. Thanks
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: for joining me, Thank you very much, all right and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: joining us online. Next is Caleb Combs from Stewart Ranch
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Outfitters in Oklahoma. Now, Caleb in Oklahoma, what would you
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: say the buck activity has been lately on a scale
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: of one to ten opening weekend, I would say it
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: was a seven. Uh. I probably wouldn't put it as
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: high except for we were fairly successful and that we
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: put a couple of bucks down and we saw the
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: target bucks that I'm looking for during daylight hours. So
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: traditionally it's pretty good for US opening weekends. But it
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't phenomenal weather or anything. We had a front that
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: came through opening day that was really good, um, and
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: then it kind of trailed off after that. Saturday and
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Sunday got progressively worse. So it wasn't anything special, but
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: we were successful, So I'd say normal, and I'm normally optimistic.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: So seven. He's historically you have a lot of success
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: on that property on opening weekend in early October. What
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: is it about that property that sets up so well
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: for early October? Uh? What is it about property? Opening
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: October's usually good for US? UM? But I think it
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's particularly property. I think, well,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: there's some proberts that wouldn't be good. I think you
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: can be successful early if you're putting in a lot
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: of time wherever that is, so, if you're putting in
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of cameras, or you're putting it in a
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: lot of scouting and you have a lot of intel
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: because we run a whole bunch of cameras and I
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: think we had thirty year more maybe out on this property.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: And two were good. So when we got there and
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: we drew straws, you knew if you weren't the top
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: two guys that were drawing straws, you were not. You
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: were not in for a great weekend just because out
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: of all those spots, you have one that's got a
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: food source close enough to betting that you can and
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: has the right wind and you can pull it off.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: So I mean it's still slim margins, but if you
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: put in your time and you get out there, you
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: can make it happen. So for the two setups that
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: were ideal for the opening weekend, you said it was
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: food close to bedding. Is that what they have in common? Yeah,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: it's always. I mean we're in Oklahoma, so if you're
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: our food plots were not up yet. But if you
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: can find the acorn trees, or if you're running feeders,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: or if you can bait all that's legal here. I mean,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: whatever you have that is food somewhat close to bedding,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: like you gotta be close. You can't be if you're
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: getting much of nighttime picks. You're not close. Are you
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: seeing any signmaking yet? Not really a little bit. I
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: mean I've made a bunch of mock scrapes, uh and
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: put cameras on them when I left. So that was Sunday,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: But I haven't seen very many opening up. They opened
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: up for a little bit with the cold front we
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: had two weeks ago, but I mean even the big
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the big bucks. We're carrying velvet late later than ever before,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: like we thought maybe there was some kind of miracle chance.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: We we're gonna shoot some giants and velva. That's that
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: close they got where they shed it off for that
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: opening weekend. How do morning setups differ for you than
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: evening setups? My ideal morning set up during opening his
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: day at the house, but now we went and hunted.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I went and sat, but I had no hope in it.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Evenings were great, but mornings were terrible. I think there
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: was one one shooter buck that was seen in the
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: morning and he was in range just you know, I
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: couldn't see his pen. Had to get buy knocks up
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: to make sure of him. So I mean, you know,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: didn't try shot or anything. I'm just saying, like, and
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: if you pull out in the mornings after you're done hunting,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: you know, you can always tell if you're making their
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: way out of the property. There were no deer anywhere.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: They're already all betted. Like if you see a couple,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: they'll be under the tree. The only good buck bachelor
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: group that happens to bed next to the road that
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: we take in and out on Friday morning. They were
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: already better down and go right by, which is a
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: good place to bed. They always nowhere there. That's why
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: play seven, the Big seven that I've been trying to
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: kill forever. I don't know how old he is, like fourteen.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: He beds right next to the roads. He always knows
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: when you come in, he knows when you leave. He's
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: really hard to kill. Why I still alive? Going forward
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: then to the sex week or so? What do you
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: think the bucket TV is going to be on a
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: scale of one to ten in Oklahoma? I have no
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be out this week. Uh. I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: think there's a couple of days that it was supposed
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: to be seventies. So like a little minor cold front
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: fifties in the mornings. I still probably wouldn't be chasing
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: mornings this time of year. I won't be back out
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: probably tell that's sixteen dish, and that's if if the
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  Speaker 1: weather stays the way it looks. I think that'll be
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  Speaker 1: fine if you can get a cold front later. I
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  Speaker 1: know I got no faith in the upcoming week, not
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  Speaker 1: that you can't be successful. If you know where they're at, like,
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  Speaker 1: you can probably pull it off. Do you have time
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  Speaker 1: to go where you set up one? Don't be discouraged
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  Speaker 1: by that. But and then look great, Um, did you
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  Speaker 1: ask me what's going on to ten? Like? Not four?
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  Speaker 1: All right, Caleb, good luck to you and everyone else.
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  Speaker 1: That's Stewart Ranch Outfitters. Thanks for joining me. Hey, I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks bye, And that concludes this week's episode
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  Speaker 1: of Wired Haunts, What Fresh Radio. Thanks to bo Jordan's
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  Speaker 1: Doug and Caleb for joining me, and thank you guys
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  Speaker 1: for listening. As a reminder, you can find this week's
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  Speaker 1: reading material in the description of the podcast, where you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get articles about how to make a horizontal rub,
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  Speaker 1: three places to kill a buck during the October lull,
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  Speaker 1: how to deer hunt a staging area, and how to
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  Speaker 1: kill a buck in October. I will talk to you
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  Speaker 1: next week, and until then, stay wired to hunt.