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Kyle Tucker injury revealed, Best rivalry in baseball, Kevin Pillar officially joins FT · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: File Territory on a Thursday with Davin Polar are joining
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  Speaker 1: the party today AJ in a remote location, traveling the
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  Speaker 1: globe the next couple of weeks, or really just the US,
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  Speaker 1: but AJ right off the top here, I think we
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  Speaker 1: should do like a light congrats to KP. We have
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  Speaker 1: like a press release coming out today. He'll be a
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  Speaker 1: little more frequent part of this Foul Territory network. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, he went spring training, right, non roster invite
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  Speaker 1: te and now he is like in the thick of
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  Speaker 1: it and he can fully be Superman now, KP.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, what a perfect analogy that the non roster invite.
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  Speaker 2: That's something I've got real comfortable with.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe maybe that prepared me a lot for this opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: So I am really grateful to love what you guys do,
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  Speaker 2: Like I had mentioned, big fan of the show and.
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  Speaker 3: So happy to be a part of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, there's no more you guys. There's no more you guys.
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  Speaker 3: It feels good to say we right you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like hey, AJ loves when someone says we and
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  Speaker 1: they're talking about a team that they root for, or
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  Speaker 1: sometimes you can cover whatever it is, but you can
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  Speaker 1: say we right A Jr. Anthrosier.
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  Speaker 4: He can't know because he's part of the team. It's
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  Speaker 4: like when Scott says when we used to play, It's like,
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  Speaker 4: wait a second, s guy, we can just on TV.
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  Speaker 1: I think I ever said when we used to play.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think those words have come out of my mouth.
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  Speaker 3: Mmm. We'll keep I'll keep you keep more.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you let me know if I ever talk about
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  Speaker 1: my Little League swing, it won't happen. But before we
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  Speaker 1: get to the top news story of the day, we
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  Speaker 1: have one other announcement that we'd like to you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I knew it. I'm like, why do I sound weird?
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  Speaker 4: You don't have a mic on you, idiot. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: there to help.
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  Speaker 1: You, Malcolm, you didn't call me out.
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  Speaker 4: Well, well, because it's more fun just to watch you struggle.
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  Speaker 1: That's rude. Bad teammates.
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  Speaker 4: We struggle together on your teammate.
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  Speaker 1: Under the bus. Anyway, AJ, you and I unfortunately or fortunately,
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  Speaker 1: are going to be sitting next to each other in
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  Speaker 1: person all next week. But we will do that in
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  Speaker 1: Alabama at the Pro. We've been to the Pro before,
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  Speaker 1: towards the beginning of this year, back in January. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to do it again the pro Rivals Open. The
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  Speaker 1: next stop is in Alabama for about eighty former pro
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  Speaker 1: athletes competing for supremacy in the golf world. So we'll
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  Speaker 1: be in Point Clear, Alabama. The show's live Monday to Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: Then Friday we're back to normal, but same show, going
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  Speaker 1: over all the news within baseball. We'll just also have
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  Speaker 1: some special guests. Attendees include John Smoltzo's the commissioner. He'll
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  Speaker 1: definitely join us, and then we will do our best
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  Speaker 1: to get as many of some of the names you're
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  Speaker 1: seeing on the screen as possible, and many many more
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  Speaker 1: so Chipper Jones, Greg Maddox, Josh Donaldson, Brian McCann, Aaron Hicks,
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  Speaker 1: just some of many that will be out there at
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  Speaker 1: the pro Rivals Open. We're excited about it gives us
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  Speaker 1: a VIP access to some great guests and you can
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  Speaker 1: obviously follow along the show, but also they have their
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  Speaker 1: own content and social media channels, and I encourage you
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  Speaker 1: to give them a follow, a subscribe wherever, YouTube, podcast,
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  Speaker 1: social media, etc. Because it will be AJ's dream come true.
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  Speaker 1: Next week he does FT and he will also have
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to talk about some other sports like football
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  Speaker 1: and basketball before and after our show, and those interviews
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  Speaker 1: will go on their channels.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it's my time to Sean because Scott kp
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  Speaker 4: doesn't know anything about anything said baseball, So I can
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  Speaker 4: talk to these guests and he'll look at me and go, wait,
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  Speaker 4: let's basketball. You dribble in basketball. Wait, football, you drop
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  Speaker 4: back and you throw the ball. You just don't kick
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  Speaker 4: it around. So, yeah, this is my time to Sean.
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  Speaker 4: You know what you know on that list you just showed.
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  Speaker 4: I want to talk to Vince Coleman. Remember the time
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  Speaker 4: what you don't know what year it was when he
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  Speaker 4: got eat by the tart Tart monster and hurt his leg,
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  Speaker 4: and I think it was in the World Series or
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  Speaker 4: the LCS and the Cardinals didn't win the World Series
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  Speaker 4: that year.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: It was eighty five around there somewhere. The Cardinals were
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  Speaker 4: those super teams. I've never asked Vince about that. I
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  Speaker 4: want to ask about how the turf monster because remember
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  Speaker 4: they had the automatic turf machine and I think it
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  Speaker 4: was in Saint Louis that rolled the tarp out automatically,
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  Speaker 4: and the tarp got him, the tart machine got him
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  Speaker 4: and I think broke his leg and he missed like
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  Speaker 4: the World Series.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, So they had ai tarp years ago?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like it rolled out, Oh there Mark
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  Speaker 4: before Game five of the eighty five LCS and the
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  Speaker 4: Royals won that year, eighty five, the Royals won, they
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  Speaker 4: beat him, remember the Don Dankger call. But they rolled
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  Speaker 4: out the tarp on my machine, and I think it
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  Speaker 4: clipped his ankle and broke his leg or hurt his ankle.
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  Speaker 4: He couldn't play.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. I never heard of that one. But I also
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  Speaker 1: have to look this up too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Sorry, Game four of the eighty five LCS.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry that to your point, though, I would love to
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  Speaker 2: be there too. I'm a big sports fan too, love football,
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  Speaker 2: love basketball. I still dabble, and I play in a
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  Speaker 2: men's league with my brother here and some friends. Since
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  Speaker 2: I've retired, and I'm now the head coach and quarterback
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  Speaker 2: of my five year.
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  Speaker 3: Old's flag football team.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, drawing up plays, trying to teach five
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  Speaker 2: year olds plays, It's been a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: I heard you were good at football in high school?
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  Speaker 1: Is this true?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I was pretty good. I was pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 2: I never got really talked about I mean, I was
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  Speaker 2: a three sport athlete growing up, and yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: football was probably the sport I was the best at.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, I wasn't I wasn't that big in
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  Speaker 2: high school. I was a little undersized, but I really
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  Speaker 2: think I could have made it.
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  Speaker 3: I was. I was good in the slot.
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  Speaker 2: I was like a like a West Swelker Cooper Cup type,
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  Speaker 2: Julian Edelman.
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  Speaker 3: I just knew how to like get open.
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  Speaker 2: I was a little bit more Hunter Renfro though those
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  Speaker 2: guys are a little bit faster and more physical. I'm
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  Speaker 2: more like a Hunter Renfro shifty could always get open.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I love playing football. You know, football taught
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  Speaker 2: me a lot about playing baseball, so I'm very thankful
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  Speaker 2: that I got a chance to play in high school.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I always tell people, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: way I played the outfield is a lot a lot
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  Speaker 2: like I played football. You know, football taught me how
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  Speaker 2: to run routes running routes, and football taught me how
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  Speaker 2: to run good routes in baseball. So I always try
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  Speaker 2: to tell kids play all the sports and you'll find
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  Speaker 2: your way eventually.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah, well you made a good choice. You
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  Speaker 1: had a nice career thirteen years in the big leagues.
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  Speaker 3: Baby, my buddy, you got a horse.
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  Speaker 4: It's uh yeah, you see him. Yeah, it's a secretariat.
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  Speaker 4: That's Secretariat right here. That's my winning horse. Watch out,
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  Speaker 4: Jason Wood.
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  Speaker 5: I'm coming for you.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Jay, I know who both Wes Welker
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  Speaker 1: and Cooper Cup are, so I actually do have you know,
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  Speaker 1: you do very light, very light skill. You know. I
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  Speaker 1: used to actually call college basketball for ESPN, like I
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  Speaker 1: actually did do other sports back in the day. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just to stick.
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  Speaker 4: To you on our pod. What scot you were on
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  Speaker 4: the O Show. You were calling like dodgeball and tittly
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  Speaker 4: winks and rock paper scissors, That's what you were calling
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  Speaker 4: on ESPN The Oat Show.
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  Speaker 1: I did do a report from a dumpling eating contest
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  Speaker 1: for ESPN Radio when I was like twenty twenty, probably
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  Speaker 1: so because I was interning there and they were like,
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  Speaker 1: we have one assignment that we actually can put an
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  Speaker 1: intern on. And I was like, what is it? And
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  Speaker 1: They're like dumpling eating. I'm like games, So yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You come a long way. You come a long way.
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  Speaker 5: FT fans, Do you want to have confidence when you
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  Speaker 5: go out in public?
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  Speaker 1: all right, AJ, what's the deal with Kyle Tucker. We
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  Speaker 1: lightly mentioned this the other day. They're in the thick
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest series of the year, the Chicago Cubs,
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  Speaker 1: and they're handing it to the brewers. They did a
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  Speaker 1: great job obviously the last couple of days, taking them
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  Speaker 1: down in the doubleheader and then a tight win in
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  Speaker 1: last night's contest. But Kyle Tucker is one of, if
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  Speaker 1: not their best player, best hitter, and he's been great
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  Speaker 1: up until about six ish weeks ago, so they sit him.
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  Speaker 1: Jesse Rodgers reports last night, and we can show the
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  Speaker 1: tweet that it's not as clear cut as it seems,
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  Speaker 1: because he produced in June after an injury that is
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  Speaker 1: now being talked about. Here there you go, but slowly
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  Speaker 1: it impacted his swing. Apparently apparently the injury is healed,
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  Speaker 1: but the swing is not healed yet. So talking about
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  Speaker 1: a hairline fracture in his right hand, here's the headliner story.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I should have started with that hairline fraction
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  Speaker 1: in his right hand. Craig Council confirmed it, and I
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  Speaker 1: actually found a Kyle Tucker quote. I think this was
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  Speaker 1: like an hour ago. I found it, and he said
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  Speaker 1: today he was asked if he would have been better
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  Speaker 1: off talking about the break in his hand earlier, and
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  Speaker 1: he's a, I don't know. There are a couple of
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  Speaker 1: ways I could have handled it. I just went out
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  Speaker 1: there and played. That's how things went. And Brian McTaggart,
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  Speaker 1: who covered him when he was with the Astros, AJ said,
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  Speaker 1: this is most Kyle Tucker answer ever. If you know
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker and you've covered him, which I have, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you've come across in AJ, he's very even keeled, nonchalant,
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  Speaker 1: low key, whatever you want to call it. You're like
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  Speaker 1: you want to shake him, but then you're like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: that actually probably helps him stay so calm and cool.
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  Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on all of this?
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  Speaker 4: Well, first of all, according to Jesse, I didn't look
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  Speaker 4: at the stats because I've been traveling all day. But
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  Speaker 4: if Jesse Rodgers is correct that he did fine after this,
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  Speaker 4: then maybe it did affect his swing down the road.
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  Speaker 4: But also, let's not forget he's a free agent. He
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  Speaker 4: doesn't want to miss time because he missed a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of time last year, so he doesn't want to go
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  Speaker 4: back to back years and missed a bunch of time.
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  Speaker 4: He got off to a great start and he's going
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  Speaker 4: through it a little bit right now, and they're giving
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  Speaker 4: him a couple of days off. But it's still Kyle Tucker.
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  Speaker 4: He needs to be in the lineup. It's presence alone
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  Speaker 4: changes that lineup for the Cubs. Remember we asked why
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  Speaker 4: Owen k he got called up at one point, We're like,
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  Speaker 4: why is he getting called up? They knew back then
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  Speaker 4: that hey, Kyle Tucker, something's not right. We're gonna get
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  Speaker 4: more days off case he's been playing right field. It's
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  Speaker 4: just a weird thing because we've all played through stuff
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  Speaker 4: and you never know how it's gonna affect you. You
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  Speaker 4: play through injuries, you just if you play every day,
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  Speaker 4: you play through things and you never know how it's
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  Speaker 4: gonna affect you. Unfortunately for the Cubs, this one is
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  Speaker 4: really hurting Kyle Tucker right now. But they're doing okay.
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  Speaker 4: And you said they whooped him. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if they whoped him. If you watch that game,
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  Speaker 4: it was a great game loss. The Brewers had a
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  Speaker 4: million chances to score runs and some double plays, some
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  Speaker 4: mozzarella sticks. There was a lot of things that happened
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  Speaker 4: in that game last night.
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  Speaker 1: KP. What do you got?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think the thing that doesn't get talked
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  Speaker 2: about the most with injuries, and I've played through my
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  Speaker 2: fair share injuries. You know, never wanted to make an excuse,
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  Speaker 2: never came out and told the Neil was hurt, and yes,
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  Speaker 2: the stats stuff suffer. But the challenge with an injury
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  Speaker 2: in baseball, especially when your swing's not feeling right, is
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  Speaker 2: it hurts the work. You can't get in the cage
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  Speaker 2: and kind of figure out how to get your swing right.
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  Speaker 2: I've had hand injuries, and to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 2: I just showed up to the game. I did my prep,
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  Speaker 2: never hit in the cage, never really even took swings
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  Speaker 2: on deck, and then just went in there and just
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  Speaker 2: tried to roll out and see what I could do.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, there would be times where I really
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  Speaker 2: struggled and I wanted to get in the cage and
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  Speaker 2: try to work, but I couldn't because it hurt. And
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  Speaker 2: then you kind of try to balance the two. Is
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  Speaker 2: it more important for me to kind of rest and
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  Speaker 2: then just go out there cold turkey and try to
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  Speaker 2: figure it out?
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  Speaker 3: Or do I grind through it?
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  Speaker 2: You know, have a painful, you know, work session in
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  Speaker 2: the cage, you know, have the hand not feel one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent for the game, and then go out there
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  Speaker 2: and maybe even be play even worse. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: I give guys like that a lot of credit. They
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  Speaker 2: don't want to make excuses. You know, whether or not
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  Speaker 2: it has to do with not wanting to miss time
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  Speaker 2: because him being a pending free agent. You never know
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  Speaker 2: how someone thinks or how someone's agent thinks. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: I do respect the fact that he's going out there
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  Speaker 2: and trying to play through it.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what Kyle.
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  Speaker 2: Tucker at you know, let's call it seventy or sixty percent,
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  Speaker 2: is still better than a lot of players that would
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  Speaker 2: replace him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a J you dealt with us too. I mean
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  Speaker 1: you talk about it all the time, just like KP.
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  Speaker 1: You played through a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, I broke my wrist. When you came back in
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  Speaker 4: two weeks and played the last month with a broken wrist,
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  Speaker 4: it affects you. And what KP have said was right.
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  Speaker 4: And we talked about this yesterday or the day before
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  Speaker 4: when we said, I'll never judge anybody's pain tolerance. I'll
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  Speaker 4: never say anything because you just don't know. Everyone has
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  Speaker 4: a difference tolerance for pain and you just got to
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  Speaker 4: be able to deal with it. And there's a Listen,
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  Speaker 4: whatever it was, KP is right. You can't get your
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  Speaker 4: work in because it hurts, so you want to take
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  Speaker 4: it off. You spend more time in the training room
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  Speaker 4: than you normally would, probably because you have to get
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  Speaker 4: extra treatment, so that affects your routine before a game.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that go into this. But listen,
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  Speaker 4: if I had to bet, I'd say Kyle Tucker's probably
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  Speaker 4: gonna get hot in September and then look out in
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs if he gets right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's not forget Kyle Tucker is at amazing
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  Speaker 2: right field there too, So him going out there and
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  Speaker 2: playing you know, close to goal glove defense is also
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  Speaker 2: very valuable.
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  Speaker 3: And you know him at the.
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  Speaker 2: Very least he's not he's not very successful at the plate,
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  Speaker 2: but him sitting out sometimes is a little bit harder
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  Speaker 2: for you to come back. His timing still there, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's putting the ball in play. He doesn't have that
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  Speaker 2: same sort of strength in his hand and his wrist.
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  Speaker 2: To AG's point, I think he gets really hot as
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  Speaker 2: he starts to get healthy. You know, as he's able
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  Speaker 2: to get healthy, he's going to start working. He's going
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  Speaker 2: to find something that works in his swing. Is one
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  Speaker 2: of the best players in baseball. I mean, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: bet against him. He has a lot to play for individually,
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  Speaker 2: as mentioned a free agent at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 2: But also the Cubs are right in this, so you know,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully the Cubs fans, you know, maybe with this story
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  Speaker 2: coming out, give him a little bit of break. You
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  Speaker 2: never really know how fan base is kind of react
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  Speaker 2: to something like this. You know, he is starting to
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: get booed, you know, And that's the other hard thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, in baseball, there is no off days. When
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  Speaker 2: you're an everyday player and you're expected to go out
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  Speaker 2: there and you're struggling, there is nowhere to hide. You're
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  Speaker 2: put in the lineup every day and you might not
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  Speaker 2: be physically one hundred percent, mentally you're definitely not one.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe give him a couple of days where you know,
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  Speaker 2: physically he can, you know, have a couple of days
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  Speaker 2: where the hand heels up. But also mentally, let's just
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: get off the field, let's take a deep breath, let's regroup,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: and I expect him to have a monster September and
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: you know, lead his team into the PUP playoffs.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: I wonder, Scott, I wonder in KP he got booed
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: a long ago, remember if for not running a ground
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: ball out and the Cubs fans kind of got all
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: over him? Is this why this came out?
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: Why didn't this come out two months ago when he
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: did and June first? Now it comes out after he
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: gets booed? Is that something that you know? Timing is
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: everything right? And so this come out because he was
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: getting boooned? Cup fans were on him and then they said, hey, listen, guys,
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: this guy's been playing through this to get the fans
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: off of him. That's a question that maybe somebody like
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: Jesse Rodgers should ask.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, the only thing I'll point out is
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: that we were aware there was some type of hand
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: issue in June that occurred. The problem aj was that
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: he then was great in June, you know what I'm
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: saying in July. So then people are like, are you oh,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: then he's okay, he's on fire.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Well that's why I wonder though the timing of oh,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: he broke his hand came out now after he gets booed.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, it wasn't. It's not a coincidence. It came
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: out now and they're more descriptive on exactly what he
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: had after months of not telling anybody he had an
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: upper body injury. Well, we knew that, Okay, cool. But
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: now all of a sudden, no, he's got a broken hand.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: He's been playing with lay off of them cup fans.
• 16:38
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• 16:39
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• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent on this, but but KPI.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I think Pat Murphy also talked about it, and then
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: people were like, wait what, and then yeah, they went
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: to down.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: It's very interesting.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Takes two were maybe just his opinion from a far
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: kind of sparked, Okay, you know it's time to have
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: the best interest of our players back. You know, he
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: is getting booed, he's not performing well. Another manager is
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: speculating on the health of my player. You know, he
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: came out and said something along the lines as you know,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: we or I don't believe he's healthy. You know, the
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: way he swing in the bat, he might have some injury.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: But also to AJ's point too, I mean there's many
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: times I played through injuries, and you know, I came
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: up in the era of social media, you know, being
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: able to go on Twitter and seeing you know, everything
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: that people are writing about you. And I went through
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: a really long, extended period of time where you know,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: it was like a six week stretch where like I mentioned,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I never hit in the cage. I never even took
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: a swing on deck. I just went out to play,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and quite frankly, I wasn't very good at the plate,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: and I was hoping someone would kind of just it wasn't.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: It was never gonna be me.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: That's not my DNA to come out and make an
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: excuse like, hey, I got a tour in ucl on
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: my thumb, That's why I'm not hitting. I kind of wish,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: you know, someone in the front office, my coaching staff,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: another player would have been like.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Hey, this guy's playing hurt.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Like you know, luckily I wasn't getting booed, but you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: some of the stuff I was reading was not really helping.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: AJ. Real quick, I've been doing homework here as we go.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: The same morning that counsel said Tucker was healthy and available,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Pat Murphy was on six seventy to score in Chicago
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: and answered a general question about the state of the
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Cubs by declaring, this is from the athletic let me
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: check here. I'm sure it's yeah, Patrick Mooney, who also
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: is a North Side Territory host. They'll be all over this,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: but he said Murphy opposition manager quote, I think Tucker's hurt.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I don't have any information, but Tucker's not the same
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and more quotes Tucker's hurt. I think he's playing through it.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: He's such a class kid. He probably doesn't mention it
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: to anyone. That kid, I don't know him. Everything I
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: hear in watching him play the game first cast blah
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: blah blah. So he says that, the then counsel confirms that,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: and then that's what starts this up. You've been around him, right, AJ,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: he's Murph No, well murphyeah, Kyle Tucker. I mean he is, like, yeah,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: he's very.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently he's hilarious with his teammates. But I've only
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: seen him be very quiet. He's always polite. He says, hello,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: that's about it. He didn't really dig deep into conversations. So,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, Murph, murphin counts. They have an interesting relationship.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Murf probably said it didn't mean to stir it up,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: and now we have this.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he did.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Maybe he did. Maybe he did stir it up.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: You know, I like to give people the benefit of
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: the doubt, but on this one, Murph knew what he
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: was doing.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Maybe there's a little gamesmanship there. There's a little games there.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: You know, Murph's good at that. That's right, Kyle Tucker
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: apparently is a first class like Meme sender or something
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: like that. I think on tm USA they said it
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: was like the best texter with jokes. But yes, when
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: you talked to him in person, he's very low key.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I think that's what helps him, you know, deliver in
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: the clutch moments too. Just his style. You don't want
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: him to just suddenly be screaming. It's not him. Real quick,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: we just found out this news. The ras are calling
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: up shortstop Carson Williams. He's one of the top prospects
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: in the sport, super athlete, elite defender, big power potential,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: so uh, this could be big for Tampa Bay in
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the future.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Happened?
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: What day? Just happened?
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: By the way, no rookie eligibility this year.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Who again, this is the new September call up. This
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: is the new September call We just crushed it.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Yep. You know about that KP.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: No. I mean, I know the rule.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I wasn't one of those players that you know, they
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: were kind of worried about service time manipulation with. But
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and I'm not really familiar with him, but everything I
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: do know about the rais is he's probably pretty good, actually,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: really good because they have an unbelievable way of finding talent, drafting, developing, internationally, trading.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: So I don't doubt that this kid they're bringing up
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: is is talented. And you know, in the most raised
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: way possible, they're going to save some eligibility.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: By the way, since you know we're on right now
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the thick of the day, I can also mention this one.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Jesse Rogers just tweeted about the Cubs brewis game going
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: on right now. Kyle Tucker got a nice ovation from
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the crowd and his return to the lineup, and then
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: he worked in two count into a walk. Helps to
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: cheer your superstar on, doesn't It doesn't hurt.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: And the timing, Remember the timings, God, the timing. Remember
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: of the timing. All of a sudden, they're like, oh,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: he was playing hurt. We respect that. We just thought
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: he was bad. See it's weird how that works.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: The timing. Yeah, to forget.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: People are so quick to forget. What have you done
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: for me lately? What have you done for me lately?
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: That's all they care about.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: My problem KP. Earlier in the week when we brought
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: it up, was also the fact that and I get it,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: you want a player to run out of ground ball, whatever.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: But every Cubs fan you talk to wants him back
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: next year. Everyone and their main concern is are we
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: going to be cheap oh's and not pay enough for
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: him versus the competition even though we should. Well, I
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: know something that will help the cause. Don't boo him.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Don't boo him. It's very simple.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not like a scientist a math major,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: but that seems makes a lot of common sense. You know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: when you're a free agent of the caliber of a
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker. You know, it never happened to me in
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: my world, but when you were actually a free agent
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: of that caliber, you actually get to choose where you
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: want to play, fan base city, the way they take
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: care of your family, all those things factor. And obviously
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: dollars and cents is probably the number one thing for
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: most people, but all those other little things factor. If
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I'm a Kyle Tucker and I'm playing the worst stretch
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: of baseball in my career and I'm still getting applauded,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: supported loved on by a fan base, why would I
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: ever want to leave? And when he's struggling, you're booing him.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: It makes you think makes you think, you know, it'd
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: be interesting, but good for them for doing it, and
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: obviously the Trey Turner thing a couple of years ago
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: kind of you know changed, you know, everyone's sort of
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: perspective on Hey, if we actually encourage a guy when
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: he's sucking, maybe he'll play better. And you know, good
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: for Tray Turner for having players backs around the league.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Of you know, starting to play better.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: So hopefully that's the start of something big for Kyle
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Tucker because the Cubs need him.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker needs.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: This for his free agency, but ultimately he's gonna be fine.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the clubs have actually been pitching really well. They
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: have one of the top bras. In the second half
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: of the season, the offense fell off a bit, but
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: this is a big week for them, better than box scrows.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Let's hit a game or two from the past twenty
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: four hours. KP. What do you have on the San
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Diego Padres. First off, you played for.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: The Giants, right, I played for the Giants.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they they're going through it this year and
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: we had an killing on yesterday. Saying you know, she's
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: watching every inning like this is a lifeless looking situation.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Most of the team is in. It's not an injury issue.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: It's just I don't even know if it's under performance.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: They're just not good enough whatever it is, right, So
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the Padres beat him up yesterday. They've got the same format.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Going starters have rebounded since the weekend series against the Dodgers.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: JP Sears actually pitched really well for them, which could
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: be a sneaky pickup. And then while you're talking about them,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: we can get your appreciation Superman on this Fernando Tatist
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: junior catch. Because he is special out in right field.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I remember a time when he was shortstopping. People were like,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: don't move him off shortstop, and everyone's like it was
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: okay to move him off the shortstop.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: He could probably be a center fielder too, I mean,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: just a freak athlete, but just an unbelievable play, you know.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: And I know there's been a lot of talk about,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: you know, the lack of power that he's had at
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: home plate, and you know, I wasn't a guy who
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: hit a ton of home runs, but he kind of
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: took a page out of my book. If I can't
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: hit him, don't let other people hit him. And That's
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: exactly what he did right there. And I just love that.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: You know, he makes that great play. He comes in
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: off the field, and you know, his whole team stands
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: at the dugout and you know, maybe.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: A play like that.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I believe a play like that on defense will spark
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: the offense.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: And I wouldn't be surprised to see him hit a
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: homer here soon.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: That's a sick play. One more let's get to one
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: more game. AJ. We started mentioning this yesterday, but the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Tigers really man handled the Astros this week. I don't
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: know which I mean. I think the more interesting direction
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: is to go that the Astros way now the all
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: of the wild card contenders, if you want to call
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: the Astros that versus the Mariners whatever, Like everybody lost.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: There's a good tweet besides the Yankees yesterday, right, the
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Guardians lost, the Mariners lost, the Astros lost. Who am
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I missing?
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Those are the Royals?
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: The Royals?
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Royals lost too, that's right.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: But that book your heart, AJ, lost you some money.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: That's true. We're doing that next. But where out on
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the Astros, AJ, They're gonna be okay?
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know, the problem is that the Mariners keep
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: losing too. The Astros are playing terrible and the Marriers
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: are playing worse. I don't know. I don't know if
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: they're gonna be okay. I think I feel like the
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Mariner's trajectory is better. I'll let you know after tonight,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: when I see him in person and I get to
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: talk to Joe Spoda and jose Al Tuvay and the
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: rest of the Astros here in Baltimore, I let you know.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I'll let you guys know how I feel about them
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: after that. But right now, they're not trending in the
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: right direction, and they need to turn it around if
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: they're gonna win this division quickly, because the Mariners are
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: gonna come at some point and it's gonna get hard.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: It's gonna get hard.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, Kratz. I opened up Arena Club, put my own
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: money in there, and I wasn't gonna go big.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: We went over the Ruby pack a week ago. This time,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I just went for the low level pack, where it's
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: an easy entry point twenty five bucks. You can get
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: yourself a big Boy card. The Grail has many good options.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I slice open the pack. We're looking at it. If
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: you're watching us right now, and I pull a card
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: from the nineteen fifty He's super cool. I enjoyed the
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: experience looking at it. It's Jim Gilliam. It's the top
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: set from the mid fifties. But I got an offer
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: for more than what the slap pack costs, and I
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: sold it back. Tough times for the Dodgers right now.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Don't at me, but I got twenty eight bucks instantly,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: so I can buy another one of those packs and
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: try and get what I want.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: Absolutely the excitement I heard Kip say before. The excitement's
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: in the chase. You sold it back. Now you get
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: to open another one. I enjoy when you slide it
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: across the screen there and the pack opens.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Arenaclub dot com slash foul twenty percent off your first
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: slab packer card purchase, Get after it. I don't want
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: to go series by series, but you know, I catch
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of flaks sometimes when I say that I
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: feel like the National League is far, far better than
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the American League. And I do this in my power
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: rankings when we do them once a month. KP and
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: fans get after me. Oh, I'm like trying to bait
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: people into blah blah, blah. Watch the Phillies Mariners series,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that, like the Phillies are world's
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: better in the Mariners can't beat them, but it it
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: was NL dominance execution in my mind, from starters to
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: relievers and the bats, the whole deal, and the manners
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: are good. It's just the Phillies looked like a powerhouse
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the last few days.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: The Phillies are good. I think they are.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, if we were to do power rankings today,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: even with Zach Wheeler potentially being done for the year,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm putting the Phillies in my top three.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: I can make an argument that they're the best team
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: in baseball. Just you talk about we talk about the intangibles.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: We talk about a team that's tight, the chemistry, wanting
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: to play for each other. And then even with a
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Zach Wheeler out, you look at their rotation, it's still
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: super deep. They have, you know, a potential Cy Young
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Award winner and Christopher Sanchez. They got a really really
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: good bullpen too, I mean, and they have an elite
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: closer so and you know, arguably one of the best
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: players in baseball playing first base for them. So you know,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: you can make an argument they're the best team in baseball,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: no doubt, no doubt, you.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Can make Listen to National League. I've said it for
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: been saying it all year. At least four or five
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: teams you can put in the National League before you
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: get to an American League team as far as strength
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: of teams. So the National League's a gauntlet. The American
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: League is wide open. They're both kind of wide open
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: because it's just different quality. Now, could American League team
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: win the World Series? Absolutely, But if you're gonna if
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: you're gonna take the best American League team, whether it's
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Detroit or Toronto or whoever you want to throw in
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: that list, you put them in the National League. I
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: don't know if they can survive running through that the
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: way you can in the American League.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: We saw we saw last year with the Yankees, right
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: the Dodgers went and throttled them in the World Series.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Looking ahead, this is a big series. The Red Sox
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: take on the Yankees. It's a four gamer, and we
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: have a perfect person to talk about these two teams.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: And Kevin Pollari, who played for the Blue Jays for
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a long period of time, What do you have for
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: us on the Yankees and the Red Sox this year.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Yanks picked up oh win against the Rays, shaky from
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Devin Williams to close it out in extras, but they
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: put on a power show down in Tampa, their spring
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: training home. For the Red Sox, there was some disappointment
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: for them this week against the Orioles, so they'll try
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to bounce back against the Yanks.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: What do you think I would say for a typical series,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Timing is everything. I mean, if we had this conversation
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: two and a half weeks ago, we would say Red
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Sox are gonna swoop the Yankees. The Yankees are done.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: The Red Sox were playing unbelievably, The Yankees weren't playing well.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: We sit here today talking about how the Red Sox,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: you know, let a couple of games get away. The
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Yankees just going this unbelievable power surge. But this is
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: the Yankees and Red Sox. Both of these teams are
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: legitimate contenders for a wild card position. You throw everything
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: out the window when these two teams play. One of
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: the more sad things that happened in my career the
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: COVID year. I know it was tough for a lot
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: of people. But in my baseball career, it was really
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: tough because I signed with the Red Sox and you
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: look forward to playing games like this, series like this,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: meaningful games late in August Red Sox Yankees rivalry, and
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: unfortunately I didn't get.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: A chance to really experience it. And to this day
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: it makes me sad.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Right because you were in a rivalry with within your division,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: but not in the rivalry within the division, right, you
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: got to be on the Blue Jays. The Blue Jays
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: don't like the Yankees and the Red Sox.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: But it's not yeah when you're yeah, when you're when
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: you're a member of you know you are. Arguably, when
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I was with the Blue Jays, you could say our
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: biggest rival was Baltimore. That's kind of the team that
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: we were competing with the year and in the year out.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: But you know, nothing matches up to the Yankees Red
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Sox rivalry. When I was with the Blue Jays, yeah,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: we didn't necessarily care for the Yankees, didn't really care
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: for the Red Sox. You would go in there and
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: they were important games. You know, they're indivision games more
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: times than not. Just being a member of the Blue Jays,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: you kind of early in the season when all the
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: rankings come out, the projections come out.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: No matter what sort of ros you have.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: You're kind of always put behind the Red Sox and
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Yankees because that's kind of where they're expected to be.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: You always expect the Yankees and Red Sox to finish,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: you know, one and two. The teams that I was
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: on with the Blue Jays took those personally, so when
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: we went in there, yes, they were intense games, they
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: were meaningful games, but there is no other rivalry like
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: the Red Sox and Yankees, and for a while that
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: kind of went away. It was it was more of
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: a thing that the media tried to hype up Yankees
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Red Sox, but both teams weren't very good at the
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: same time. Over the last couple of years, they're both back.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: They're both playing really good baseball, and it's gonna be
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: fun to watch a four game series with huge playoff implications.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to watching all four.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: The only thing I'll stop you on, and I'll push
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: back on, is that I do not think it is
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: the best rivalry in baseball anymore. I agree with you,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Rodris Padres, right, Yes, I would agree with you.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, you have to factor in, you know, the
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: recent rivalry, the recent success that both of these teams had. Obviously,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: the Dodger Padres geographically super close, you know, when there
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: was a lot of you know, shit talking after the Dodgers,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: you know, went on to win the division and then
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: the Padres come in and beat them in five games,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: and you know, I think it was very similar to
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: this year where the Dodgers kind of had their number
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: in the regular season and then kind of out out
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: of nowhere, you know, the Padres were able to beat
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: them in a series, and I.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Think that changed the entire dynamic.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: You look forward to their series this weekend too, But
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: you know, both of these teams are destined for the playoffs.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: You hope, as from a fans perspective, that you know,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: they meet up in the playoffs because to your point,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: it is the best rivalry, and in order for it
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: to be a rivalry, the Padres had to do what
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: they did and they had to actually beat their big brother.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: And right now, you know, without a doubt, it's the
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: best rivalry in baseball.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you're talking about twenty twenty two, right when they.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Took Yeah, twenty twenty two.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because obviously last year the Padres had him on
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: the ropes and then the Dodger punched them and won
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: the World Series. Dodgers just swept them. But yeah, I
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: just my thing is for a rivalry to have all
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: the juices, you need both teams to be good. I
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: know Dodgers fans called Padres little brother, blah blah blah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: They haven't won, but like, they're both good teams, they're
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: competitive teams. They're in the thick of the playoff race
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: year in, year out. They don't like each other, like
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Mike Schilton Dave Roberts going at it, You're not going
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: to get that too quickly with Aaron Boone and Alex Korra, like,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: they're pretty good friends off the field. They worked together
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: broadcasting before this, so of course they want to beat
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: the crap out of each other's teams. But I think
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the Padres Dodgers hate is as real as you can
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: get for twenty twenty five beanball, the whole deal. Maybe
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: that comes back eventually with the Red Sox and Yankees.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: It's not a thing right now. It's just two good
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: teams competitive fighting for wild card spots. Because your old
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Blue Jays are ahead of them and they need to
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: keep winning ball games or somebody behind them could pass them.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's okay to have a rivalry
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: and a different way. The two managers don't have to
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: hate each other, the players don't have to hate each other.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: They just both have to be really good teams, and
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: they both kind of have to be historic teams, kind
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: of like the Yankees and Red Sox. So as exciting
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: as it is to have the back and forth banter
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: between you know, the Podres manager Dodgers manager, the players
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: you know, referring to each other as little brothers or
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: you know, step sons or whatever they want to call
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: each other, that's also exciting. But I think with where
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: both of these teams are at, the only thing that
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: really matters is when you look up on the scoreboard
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: and you see those two teams right next to each
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: other fighting for a wild car position. Ultimately, they're still
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: trying to win the division. So these games are really important.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: And to your point, if the two managers like each
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: other they work together, that could change in a hurry.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: You know, one up and end pitch, you know, one.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Errant throw to an Aaron judge or a Trevor story.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, you throw all the friendship out the window
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: and competition.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: They could be friends after four days.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: But you know, I expect this to be a I
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: expect it to be a battle.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Let's slap and John Greenberg covers the Chicago baseball scene
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: really well, writes for The Athletic. He's been on some
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: of our shows in the past, FT Northside Territory, et cetera.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: He tweeted and put out a story today which I
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: have not read yet because it came out during the show.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: But the tweet explains the story if the twenty twenty
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: seven All Star Game actually happens, because we could be
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: in a lockout. Tickets are going to be scarce, but
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: if you're a cub season ticket holder, you can get
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: guaranteed access tot if you sign a three year deal.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Some people are going to criticize this, and again I
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: have not read the article yet, but I'm going to
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: go in a different direction. In KP, it's a perk.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: They're trying to get people to sign up early. I
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: don't really have a problem with this. I mean, it's
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: like a credit card rewards kind of situation, Like, yeah,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: if you want all Star tickets, you sign a three
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: year deal. You can look at that and be like,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. But some people get season tickets anyway,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: and so they're like, cool, Yeah, I'll sign up for
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: three more years because I want them for twenty five years,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: and then they get access to what is really tough
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: to accomplish, which is an All Star ticket at Wrigley Field.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'd imagine every season ticket holder for the
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Cubs is probably going to sign up for the next year,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: the year after that, the year after that. They've probably
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: been in their family for, you know, twenty thirty, forty
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: fifty years. I think it's a great perk, you know.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: In addition to that, I like to consider myself a
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: little bit of a businessman too. You sign up for
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: three years, you get those All Star Game tickets. What
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: are those All Star Game tickets go for? Maybe you
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: can make a year season worth back by selling your
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: All Star Game tickets.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I love it, right, That is true. If you know
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: you're going to be a season ticket holder and do
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: you want to try and make some of that money
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: back on your seats, you can work it that way.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Of course, obviously you're paying for eighty one home games.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: It doesn't math out quite that way, but there are
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: to sell some of your big games and your all
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Star tickets to balance things out. Some people do that.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough to handle all of that. Point
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: being that this actually didn't surprise me one bit. You're
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: not just giving them out like it's nothing. It's it's
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: hard to find good All Star tickets.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: So anyway, I mean, is it even gonna happen? Though?
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Is the question? Does it even matter?
• 39:20
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• 39:21
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