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Easing Into Early Spring Gardening 012426 · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Garden America, the country's most listened to gardening show,
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  Speaker 1: where we talk about gardening, horticulture, landscaping and more. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: we'll discuss anything that has to do with growing plants
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  Speaker 1: and keeping your yard in tip top shape. Now here
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  Speaker 1: are your hosts, Brian Maine, John Bagnasco and Tiger Palafox
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  Speaker 1: on the Garden America Radio and Media Network.
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  Speaker 2: Well, guess what it must be that time again because
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  Speaker 2: Garden America is back on the air, Facebook Live and
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  Speaker 2: also biz Talk Radio. It's been a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: I think the last time that we got together for
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  Speaker 2: this little little soare is it a swarra?
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  Speaker 3: John?
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  Speaker 2: What do you want to call this get together podcast
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  Speaker 2: radio show?
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  Speaker 4: You can call it whatever you want. I would never
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  Speaker 4: call it a swar ra, all right, John, wouldn't sware is.
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  Speaker 3: Not even in my vocabulary.
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  Speaker 2: But it was two weeks ago right from your library?
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  Speaker 3: Was it two weeks?
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  Speaker 2: It was two weeks ago? Right, that's the last time
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  Speaker 2: we gathered together as a Garden America, your garden buddies here,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 4: And Tiger was in Indio and the day after there
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  Speaker 4: was an earthquake, right.
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  Speaker 5: There was an earth right out there, India. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 5: mountains there. Yeah, exactly, I just missed it.
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  Speaker 2: I got the notification, I got the notification.
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  Speaker 3: Did you feel it?
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  Speaker 2: You're no, I didn't. And I looked at I said,
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  Speaker 2: I should have felt this. We're close enough, but.
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  Speaker 3: Oh we did.
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  Speaker 4: I was laying in bed and Shannon was in the
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  Speaker 4: living room and she said, is that an earthquake?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: See, now you've already got a crack in your house
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  Speaker 2: from the last earthquake, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I really I hope putting this out there in the
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  Speaker 5: world doesn't create any badness. But I haven't felt an
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  Speaker 5: earthquake in a very long time because we driving a
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  Speaker 5: few months ago, right, driving a lot.
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  Speaker 3: So therefore, like that's when I'm driving. Oh that's true.
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  Speaker 3: I got you.
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  Speaker 5: And maybe my equilibriums just not peak because I just
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  Speaker 5: don't feel it. I don't know, but like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: haven't felt like an earthquake, but I'm I know. I remember,
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  Speaker 5: once you have lived through one, you never forget that
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  Speaker 5: feeling of just that helpless you're just feel as swaying, uneasy.
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  Speaker 2: And well, there's different earthquakes too. There's a rolling earthquake,
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  Speaker 2: and then there's the one that really jars you. But
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  Speaker 2: it's totally helpless. If you can't nothing, you got to
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  Speaker 2: go with it, roll with it. You can't nothing you
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  Speaker 2: can do about it, you know, run unto the dining
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  Speaker 2: room table.
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  Speaker 3: But no, no damage from this one, right, No, no,
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  Speaker 3: none that I none that I'm aware of. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: mean earthquakes.
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  Speaker 4: By the time you realize it's an earthquake, it's over. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so that's no big deal.
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  Speaker 3: But what about the weather Becky East right now? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: what's going on? Well, you know, and then you're you're.
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  Speaker 5: You're tracking this right, and they're like the European model,
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  Speaker 5: the American model, and like where it's going to go
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  Speaker 5: and what it's going to do and all this other stuff.
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  Speaker 5: And I mean, can you imagine you live in that area,
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  Speaker 5: You're just like, we'll see.
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  Speaker 4: I heard yesterday there were ten thousand flights affected canceled
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  Speaker 4: or set affected. I don't know if that's canceled. It's
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  Speaker 4: really cold is one of the biggest issues.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: You can never tell on the news nowadays that ten
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  Speaker 4: thousand flights affect. It could mean they had to use
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  Speaker 4: the ice.
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  Speaker 3: Or on the wings.
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  Speaker 4: Who knows, who knows, But yeah, they're they're gonna get
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  Speaker 4: a ton of snow. My son lives in in uh, Texas,
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  Speaker 4: south south west of Fort Worth, and they I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if they've ever had snow, but they rarely get snow.
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  Speaker 2: It snows a little bit in Texas now and then.
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  Speaker 3: They've been having some hard nost ten years. There's been
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  Speaker 3: some areas of Texas that have gotten progressively colder than
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  Speaker 3: they used to get.
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  Speaker 4: Like you're saying, yeah, yeah, I'm just thinking, well, my
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  Speaker 4: son has lived there and I tomorrow they're supposed to
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  Speaker 4: have six to eight inches, which is.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of a lot. Do we remember if the groundhog
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  Speaker 3: saw their shadow? Did that happens February second? February second
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  Speaker 3: hasn't happened yet, so we don't know. We don't know
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  Speaker 3: yet what has happened. It's still sleeping.
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  Speaker 2: We got one camera the whole time. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's switching. That's just me or good good eye.
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  Speaker 3: There we go. Hey.
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  Speaker 4: Veronica said she loved the quote in the newsletter, Brian.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great quote. Are you going to read it now?
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  Speaker 2: John's going to read it for the missed it. It's
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  Speaker 2: a great quote. I mean, I don't want to I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to spoil it. That's a John read it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The quote was from Luther Burbank.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I know, and this has been a misnomer. Burbank
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  Speaker 2: was not named after Luther Burbank. Can we get that
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  Speaker 2: out of the way, right? Oh, Burbank the city right bank,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the Pickwick Arena, right or Pickwick driving.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, he said that I see humanity now is one
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  Speaker 4: vast plant needing for its highest fulfillment only love, the
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  Speaker 4: natural blessings of the great outdoors, and intelligent crossing and selection.
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  Speaker 2: See that that's a quote. Yeah, that's a He's got
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  Speaker 2: some education behind him, doesn't he.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know we've talked about, I think several times on
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  Speaker 4: the show about he was so famous in his day
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  Speaker 4: and so respected that both Henry Ford and Thomas Senison
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  Speaker 4: came from Michigan to visit him out here.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a picture somewhere out there on the
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  Speaker 2: Internet of those three together.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's also in burbanks home.
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  Speaker 4: If you've ever been there, it's it's kind of a
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  Speaker 4: cool place. Have you ever gone? And no Santa Rosa?
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's a kind of a museum open to
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  Speaker 4: the public.
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  Speaker 3: Santa Rosa. That's where Charles Schultz is from, is it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: It just north of San Francisco, right or no? Am
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  Speaker 2: I thinking of north of the Golden gate Bridge, Santa Rosa?
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  Speaker 2: My geography, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know it's up there. I don't know if it's north
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  Speaker 3: of the Golden gate Bridge. It's in Sonoma County. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so that's.
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  Speaker 2: North Okay, yeah, okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Is it like in a state or just a home?
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  Speaker 4: It's his home and where he did his breeding and
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  Speaker 4: things big.
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  Speaker 3: He's got his.
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  Speaker 4: Famous paradox walnut there, and he bred He was a
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  Speaker 4: rose breeder too, bread some things, but he bred a
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  Speaker 4: ton of different stuff, did a lot of writing, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of experimentation.
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  Speaker 3: Was it like kiplanezer Kiplinger home though? Right? Kiplinger?
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  Speaker 5: Was it like his home though, where it's like this
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  Speaker 5: big property or was it just like a small you're
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  Speaker 5: thinking of Kipling?
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  Speaker 3: Kipling? Roger Roger Kipling is a newsletter, right, Kiplinger report?
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  Speaker 3: The report? Yeah? Kipling? But do you remember his house?
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  Speaker 3: You guys are making me dizzy.
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  Speaker 2: We like to do that. We can pile on John
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  Speaker 2: and his head.
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  Speaker 4: Starts as big, okay, not as big and not as
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  Speaker 4: big in a state, but a similar types.
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  Speaker 3: That gotcha. Okay, yeah, yeah, that's really cool. Yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 3: good quote. Way to go, Luther.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys got to keep talking.
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  Speaker 3: I'm finding my way back. Okay, way back to you.
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  Speaker 5: So we were talking about the cold weather and then
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  Speaker 5: John's newsletter also to kind of piggyback on that. He
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  Speaker 5: we were talking.
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  Speaker 3: About the last day.
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  Speaker 5: Of frost shifting, and John and I were kind of
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  Speaker 5: discussing this because obviously there's a lot of things that
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  Speaker 5: dictate when the last day of frost is. Depending on
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  Speaker 5: where you live, it's not always the same. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: we talked about on the show a thousand times that
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  Speaker 5: you know, back East, people say Mother's Day is the
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  Speaker 5: day that spring starts for them and they go out
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  Speaker 5: and they start to plant. You know, we've always used
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  Speaker 5: that as like a general rule. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 5: depending on where you live, knowing the last day of
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  Speaker 5: frost year to year is important because that gives you
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  Speaker 5: a proper planting time when you can start to do things.
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  Speaker 5: And so, you know, we were talking about it. It
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  Speaker 5: shifts periodically, and you know, number one, it's weather driven
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  Speaker 5: to the periodic table, you know, weather driven depending on
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  Speaker 5: different weather cycles and stuff like that that they can do.
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  Speaker 3: But also you know, I mean it just shifts throughout time, right, Like,
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  Speaker 3: are you referring to last week's newsletter?
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  Speaker 4: It was a recent one, but a week ago when
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  Speaker 4: I put in the map from old Farmer Solomonac Was.
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  Speaker 5: It last week's I thought I was just looking at
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  Speaker 5: this week because we were looking at the comic earlier.
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  Speaker 3: Was it last week's it was? It was last week
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  Speaker 3: or two weeks ago? Was it last week? I can't
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  Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about. Yeah, last frost States
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  Speaker 3: is two weeks ago. I thought it was. Let me
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  Speaker 3: see here, January twenty third. What's today that he's twenty third? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: January Tuesday.
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  Speaker 5: To the bottom of it, is the last frost state
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  Speaker 5: really matters article?
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  Speaker 4: Oh okay, the week before you did the map? Did
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  Speaker 4: the map and I thought, this is what you're referring
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  Speaker 4: to because they're predicting. I think there were three different
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  Speaker 4: sections of the country, and they've got in color going
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  Speaker 4: across the country that this part will be relatively the same.
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  Speaker 4: This part of the country, the frost state will probably
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  Speaker 4: be earlier the last frost state, so you can plant earlier.
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  Speaker 4: And then I think the northern part was plant later. Later,
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  Speaker 4: You're going to have a later frost, right, yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean and then you know, the article
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  Speaker 5: this week kind of piggybacks on that on why why
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  Speaker 5: it really matters and why you know this information, But
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  Speaker 5: kind of like overall, what I'm getting to is, you know,
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  Speaker 5: for gardeners, it's for us in southern California and for
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  Speaker 5: people that are listening to our show on the West Coast,
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  Speaker 5: frostings don't matter as much because we can kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of do a lot of things year round.
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  Speaker 4: I've never thought of that, you know, But for in Buffalo,
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  Speaker 4: New York right now, and you've got twenty feet of snow,
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  Speaker 4: it's you're thinking about it frost.
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  Speaker 5: But it's not even you know, but it's it's it's
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  Speaker 5: the idea that your season can be so short, so
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  Speaker 5: for you to accomplish whatever it is that you want
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  Speaker 5: to do in your garden, you have to know that
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  Speaker 5: so you can start right then accomplish your crops whatever
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  Speaker 5: it may.
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  Speaker 3: Be, before they all die again because it's either too
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  Speaker 3: hot or too cold or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, I mean, it's a it's an important
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  Speaker 5: factor for a lot of people. I would say, more
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  Speaker 5: than half of the country of the United States. It's
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  Speaker 5: a super important factor to them knowing their frosty because
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  Speaker 5: otherwise you might miss the boat.
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  Speaker 2: Well, are there. There's got to be more cold states
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  Speaker 2: across the country than warm states. And when I say
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  Speaker 2: warm states, California, Arizona, Texas to a degree, but it
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  Speaker 2: does get cold, Florida, but you know Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho,
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  Speaker 2: Lakotas that they're all cold, all the way across to
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  Speaker 2: the east coast.
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  Speaker 4: Have a lot of the cold states are tiny too,
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  Speaker 4: what Rhode Island, Yeah, yeah, Connecticut. I mean all those
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  Speaker 4: new England states. If you're saying there's more of.
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  Speaker 3: Them in the size of San Diego County, they probably
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  Speaker 3: all fit in Texas, get we get a lot. Let's not.
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  Speaker 3: Don't forget Alaska.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, So we're going to take our first break,
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  Speaker 2: first segments over. Welcome once again to guard in America.
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  Speaker 2: joining us. Those on Facebook Live question comments, Yes, we'll
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  Speaker 2: take him. Broadcasting live from Tiger's Poolhouse here in San Diego, California.
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  Speaker 2: Back after these messages on BizTalk.
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  Speaker 6: Radio, Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with
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  Speaker 6: Brian John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: Just like that, we are back from the break. Thank you, welcome,
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  Speaker 2: big thank you to fertilomor major sponsor. Thank you to
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  Speaker 2: our sponsors on biz Talk Radio as well. And so
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  Speaker 2: we just kind of kick back here and do our
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  Speaker 2: radio show, Facebook show podcast where we're a lot of things.
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  Speaker 2: We don't like to get pigeonholed into one corner of
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  Speaker 2: the room. John, So whatever you think we are, that's
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  Speaker 2: what we are. Audio patio.
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  Speaker 4: The uh that sounds like a dirty way of saying
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  Speaker 4: tally ho.
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  Speaker 3: Audio.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of people are commenting on liveless raised beds
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  Speaker 4: know what it looks beautiful and those are the ones
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  Speaker 4: Tiger built for.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, because I was gonna say, Lila, way to
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  Speaker 2: go now they were a kit though, Yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying. I was trying to remember you you told
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  Speaker 2: me that you found this kit that you thought was
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  Speaker 2: cheaper than you could actually build it. Yes, correct, just
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  Speaker 2: put it together like it just everything fits together.
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  Speaker 3: It came in boxes and you know we we assembled
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  Speaker 3: it for attached A to B, B two C exactly.
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  Speaker 5: It was a little bit of some difficulty, but you know,
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  Speaker 5: if you've never done those things before.
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  Speaker 3: Is it sturdy?
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  Speaker 4: Because it looks really sturdy and the.
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  Speaker 5: It comes with support brackets and everything, like you're saying, like,
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  Speaker 5: because a lot of people don't think about that.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people will just put up the walls right.
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  Speaker 3: They don't realize that the men you put soil in it, right,
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  Speaker 3: and water blow out the walls. So there's supports through it.
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  Speaker 5: And it is really sturdy, and it came with the
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  Speaker 5: even the netting, the not the netting, the it's a
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  Speaker 5: metal mesh that kind of helps keep things out, you know,
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  Speaker 5: because it's raised and then it's got like the fencing.
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  Speaker 2: The mesh keeps all the critters out.
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  Speaker 5: I mean for the most part. I mean I think, yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 5: and so I think it was great. And the reason
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  Speaker 5: why you know, yeah, I mean, we could build you
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  Speaker 5: something custom and you know, go from there. But by
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  Speaker 5: the time you have all the lumber.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember the dimensions on that? If I remember correctly,
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  Speaker 3: she got two of them and each one was twelve.
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  Speaker 7: Feet by six feet footprint, But if you looked at it,
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  Speaker 7: it was kind of like, I think, like two and
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  Speaker 7: a half foot beds that you kind of walked into
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  Speaker 7: that were kind of on both sides of you with
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  Speaker 7: a middle aisle.
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  Speaker 2: So and if you're building from scratch, it would take
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  Speaker 2: a lot longer. I imagine too.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you got it cut. Yeah, absolutely, there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of waste involved.
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  Speaker 4: So she has two of those setups, two of those setups. Wow,
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  Speaker 4: do you happen to remember how much a kit was?
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  Speaker 3: Roughly? I can't remember. I don't want to throw it
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  Speaker 3: out there. I don't. I feel like it was under
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  Speaker 3: a thousand bucks. You want to do it? Want to
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  Speaker 3: do it right? Under a thousand Yeah, you want to
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  Speaker 3: do this, don't you. Well, yeah, it looked awesome. Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I like that you could walk into it and there
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  Speaker 4: was a door.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, I've just got a chicken wire around I
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  Speaker 4: got to step over to get into.
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  Speaker 5: And I will say that those are also great kickoff
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  Speaker 5: points for you, meaning like you can you can even
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  Speaker 5: make it even more sturdy in the sense of like,
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  Speaker 5: for instance, it's it was it was redwood or receedar.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was redwood, but like you know, and
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  Speaker 5: you could paint the interior parts of the wood because
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  Speaker 5: to preserve it from the soil and rotting, you can
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  Speaker 5: also put like a root barrier, like a plastic material
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  Speaker 5: in there to prevent the wood from rotting even quicker,
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  Speaker 5: and which will buy you another three, four or five
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  Speaker 5: years if you do that along with the structure itself,
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  Speaker 5: and then you know for you Also, it was super
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  Speaker 5: easy to just put the metal gopher wire at the
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  Speaker 5: bottom of it, right, and and it's so deep. I
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  Speaker 5: think it was almost like two feet maybe even more
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  Speaker 5: deep that we filled, so like unlike a six inch
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  Speaker 5: bed or one foot bed where you put gopher wire,
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  Speaker 5: like you only get a foot of soil before you
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  Speaker 5: hit your gopher.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 4: Also, as you get older, it's nice to be able
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  Speaker 4: to walk through and have stuff like waist tie or
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  Speaker 4: knee high that you can.
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  Speaker 2: Just you're not into bending over, are you these days anymore?
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  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 3: No, so, no, No, they're great. I think I think
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  Speaker 3: they're great.
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  Speaker 5: And then we put the drip system in therefore to
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  Speaker 5: kind of just have them remember.
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  Speaker 3: The name of the company it came from.
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  Speaker 5: I'll look for it and I'll try to share it
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  Speaker 5: because I do have it, but I can't remember it
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  Speaker 5: off the top my head. Yeah, but yeah, no, I
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  Speaker 5: mean nowadays, you know, when you go to the lumberyard
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  Speaker 5: to just buy any kind of right. Yeah, it's super
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  Speaker 5: expensive when you think about the waste from cutting it
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  Speaker 5: and then all the screws and brackets that you need
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  Speaker 5: to do.
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  Speaker 3: You know, these kits are phenomenal. Yeah, and they dropped
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: it right.
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: At our house, so that was really cool too. I
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: think the price even included shipping.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well there you go. Yeah.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Veronica says that her paper whites that she forced
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: are done and she's waiting for their leaves to brown.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: Should she put in the compost pile or give them
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: another chance outside? I'm not sure what you mean by that, Victoria.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: Did you talking about putting the leaves in the.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Compost pile or the bulbs? Yeah, the bulbs, you don't want.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: To because if you take what you have there planted
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: in the ground, they'll naturalize and they'll come up every year.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: So I would put them out as soon as you can, really,
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: because cold weather doesn't bother them.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: And if it's the leaves in the compost pile, I
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: don't think there's any negative effects to putting paper white
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: leaves in a compost pile, is there?
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: No, there's no problem putting if you just want to
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: do the leaves. There's no problem with that. But you
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: want to plant. If you're going to plant the bulbs outside,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: you want to plant them and before you cut off
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: the leaves because they're building the ball back up.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, did you see allmine walking down?
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: You know, I didn't notice.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: He just watches his feet when he walks.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Just wait till so we're so, we're not doing a
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: show next week, but in two weeks, oh you won't
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: be here. Look along the pool, okay, okay, all the
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: freezes starting to bud.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: So in two weeks look at it again, right, and.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: That it's going to be all yellows and pinks.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Well, if I remember on my way out, I'll take
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: a picture before and after.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so Colleen said that. Uh.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Charles Schultz Brian also has a great museum in Santa Rosa.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Very good see you throw yes Snoopy, Yeah, Charles, Charlie
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: brown Snoopy linus. Okay, here's a trivia question. I think
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I know the answer. Before it was peanuts. I think
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: he called it little folks.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Right, just the way you said it.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Well, because I was gonna throw I was gonna throw
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: it out there, and then I remembered what it was,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: but his before peanuts, it was little folks.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Are you seriously yes?
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, and somebody, I'm sure one of our listeners
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: or viewers will say, yeah, that's true.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Why it's Is it just because peanuts is a term
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: for I don't know why the change such a little
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: peanut Maybe, I don't know why the change. Do you
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: remember Buffalo Bob.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: Yes, the guy from the Land, the Lord of the
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: not Lord of the Flies, of the Lamb movie.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Buffalo Bob had a TV show, right, yeah, Clara Belle
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: the clown and how do you Duty?
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: And how do you do? How do duty? Show?
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Anyway, the kids that were watching that were there on
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: the show, but we're watching the show was called the
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Peanut Gallery.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: That's where that term comes from. I don't want to
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: hear from the peanut gallery. Be quiet, right, Yeah, I
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: don't know that's what they called it, the peanut gallery.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Is that where that term it came from? The peanut galley?
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know. That could be why they called
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: it the peanut gallery. Yeah, because the term was already there.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: We got a break coming up here in about thirty seconds.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: This is Phil time, so.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: Thirty seconds to go a little bit of drizzle here
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: in San Diego, which is perfect.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: This is perfect weather right now. Now.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Hasn't rained here in the last several hours, has it
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: or did it?
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: No? I don't think so. John got rained on the
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: way down, way down. And the other thing we were
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: talking about frost. We I don't feel we've gotten no frost.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: No, not at all. This has been a very warm winner.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: So of fact, for Aniko is asking about if she
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: could put her plumeri out earlier. She usually waits till
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: March seventeenth. Yeah, maybe right spring Valley.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't see why not.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: That's right, that perfect timing. It is break time for
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: our friends on BIS Talk Radio. So thank you for
• 19:52
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• 19:58
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• 20:00
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• 20:12
  Speaker 6: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: John and Tiger.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show. I hope you had a
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: good break. We're doing well here in San Diego, and
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: maybe some more rain before the day's over.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: Is this the spot that after this one we stop
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: or is it the next one.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: We go, after the next one we stop, we stop
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: and then come back. Right, And the reminder for those
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: people that when we do finish the first hour, we log.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Off, we log off and log back on again.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: So ronic, no, not running. It's Spring Valley, Spring Valley area. Right,
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: we said, she's like, put it outside. Is that Okay?
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: It's February. We'll still possibly get some cold weather.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's not now, but she does March seventeenth.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: I think you think she could easily put them out
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: person to March without any problem.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't know. I mean, Plumeria is even
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: in Spring Valley. I don't think that they get super
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: crazy cold to work.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I froze and Fallbrook though, but Spring
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Valley is colder than Spring Valley, I don't think. So,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: you know, these.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Spring valleys Inland of obviously, I don't know how cold
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: they get. Yeah, if we were talking Alpine, that's a
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: different story.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's for sure. And it is shocking, right,
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: I mean even going from here in Mission Valley to
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: Lakeside or Santee, the difference, the difference in temperature is substantial.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: So but yeah, I mean we talk about our in
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: southern California, we kind of what put our last frost,
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: you know, in February. That's a you know, January and
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: February kind of like our coolest.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: March can still be cold though, you think, so, yeah,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I mean that's not frost cold, not frost cold. But
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I mean no, Yeah, We've had many cold you know,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: and we can go a week with eighty five and
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: then the next week it's like sixty five. You know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: it does it does dip and change.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so but yeah, I mean we're having a very
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: mild winter right now, and it's kind of a I'm
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: glad we got that rain in the beginning because you
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: know they've already said, oh, you know, we we we
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: we're good enough on the rain now to kind of
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: get through most of the year without calling any kind
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: of drought.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: You can turn on your tap and feel comfortable.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Exactly, not feel like you're just running water.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Here's a question for you. When's the last time you
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: drank out of a hose?
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Yesterday? Okay, yeah, I don't I drink out of hoses
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: all the time? Do you really? Yeah?
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: That was gonna be one of those. Probably when I
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: was ten.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: No, no, I drink out of hoses all the time.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Good for you, Yeah, good for you.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: That's why you build up all that resistance.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I do. I really do believe in that. Yeah, I
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: really do believe in Like, well, isn't.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: There a lot of warning out though about the hoses
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: coming from China?
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I mean heavy metals like lead and arsenic.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean yeah, I believe it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Like you're not you're against lead, narsnik, You're not.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: You're not a pro.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: You don't.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I bet you, I bet you pull you push your
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: anti specialist?
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: Are organic? Are organic?
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Is organic?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Well says that where the term get the leadout came from.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Actually it's not organic technically, but it is natural lead.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Well, there's where that word is thrown around a lot
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: and misused. The word organic. You go into restore everything's organic?
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: What does that mean? Well, we didn't spray it with
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: this or like John said, it's natural, just we didn't
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: touch it. It's natural, it's organic, you know.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: And then in gardening terms, I mean, obviously, if you
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: buy organic plants, you can say, okay that they were
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: grown in an organic process. But then there's the organic seeds,
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: and they're grown again in an organic process, but you're
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: not buying it, I don't think, because there's so much
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: involved with a seed having any kind of pesticide in
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: it or on it or anything like that. It's more
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: like you just support the process of growing things organicly.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: That's why you would buy most like organic seeds, you know,
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: versus you know, getting any kind.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Of like always thought organic seas where a scam. Well,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: but if you're just you're just supporting.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: You're just supporting the idea that they're organically growing something, right, Like.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: It's not like you're saying like there's no real benefit,
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: there's no difference to the seed. It's more just like
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: you support somebody who grows something organic.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: That that's where the word again gets tossed around.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: You know, like a cow like you you know, whether
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: you get that cows are definitely organic, well no, but.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: I mean if you get that ground beef and it's
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: just like, Okay, this came from some ranch that they
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: treat their cows.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Horribly or whatever, as opposed to.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: As opposed to Oh, this farm walks their cows every
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Sunday and reads poetry to them. You're just supporting the
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: process of raising that.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: And there there proves my point. Then if I did that,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I could call it or an organic cow. Exactly, I'm
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: gonna because I walk it every Sunday, I treat it right.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: And you know, you give it many hours. It's organic
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: and it's organic.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you I visited Aaron Whaley's farm at one time.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: I think his parents started the Seed Savers Exchange. And
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: when we were in the seed business, he would grow
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: a lot of seed for us. And he raised white
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: ancient White Park cattle, ancient White Park and they were
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: grass they were grass fed. It was grass fed beef.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: And they made us dinner while we were there, and
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you those were the best steaks I ever had.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: In my life. You tell the difference, Oh yeah, it
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: was unbelievable, the difference. Really. Yeah.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: I have this friend that is a I guess what
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: would it be not hay? What do they feed cows
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: alfalfa in the bales though it's not straw.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I mean they don't feed him straw. They feed him. Yes,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: So he is a hay broker.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: And I guess some of the best hay comes from
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: the United States and then they ship it and shipping
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: containers to Japan where they have like Kobe Bee farms
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: and stuff.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Right, Okay, sure they ship this hay two Japan and
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: that's what they feed those counts. Wow. That's like when
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: you get like, I don't know, like lobster flown over
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: from Maine or whatever. Yeah, you're like got to go.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Or what about what about steaks from Omaha, Nebraska that
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: they're known they're known, well, they're known for their steaks.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: That's the company Omaha Steaks.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Means that good thing, they're known for their steaks.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I know what you're going to that, Well, it's don't
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: don't don't forget the corn. And of course Iowa too
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: likes to get into the corn thing. You know, Oh
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: we have how many people have we nurses that they
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: say the water is different for the garden.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: For drinking, it's the same, right unless you have it.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Well, what do you mean?
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Well, we were talking about drinking water from a hose
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: and Lennard said, they say the water from the hose
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: is different.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: I mean if it's coming out of your house. Yeah,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: if it's there.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: There are reclaimed water spots that you definitely won't want
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: to be drinking that.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: And if you have filtered water in your house, Oh yeah, different.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: Oh did I ever tell you the story about somebody
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: installed the soft water filter in their home and the
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: plumber didn't realize that the irrigation system was hooked up
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: after the soft water filter and it was watering their
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: whole yard.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: With the soft water. And people are like, well, whatever,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: it's not a big deal. It's a filter. Soft water
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: is usually softened by salt. Salt you have if you
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: have a soft water.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: The whole yard was yellowing, and it's because the everything
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: was becoming more everything was salted.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Sounds like a problem.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you mean it's like normally your soft water
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: filter is just for your home.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Your home.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: We had one year's ago when I lived out in
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Spring Valley and we had to buy salt maybe once
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: a month, I don't know, in a bag, and you
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: had to put it in there because.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: He was buying salt bags like once every like two weeks.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: And it's because his lawn everything was getting salted. Yeah.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Hey, when we break for the next hour, let's take
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: a few minutes longer because Veronica is hungry for steak
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, perfect, give her some time.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, go make a quick breakfast steak, Veronica.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's taking eggs.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: I missed the question about moving a camellia.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Camelia, Oh you missed it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you Tanya for reminding me about that.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, please if we don't get to your
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: questions or comments, remind us just give us a big
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: old take.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: You definitely wouldn't want to move it. Now.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Well, this is Lisa and reading. She said she's got
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: a camellia tree that needs to be moved. When's the
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: best time to do this? After it bloom? And she
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: says it's about nine feet tall. I would say, now,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: why you would? Yeah, they're they're dormant when they're blooming.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: When they're dormant.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think it would sacrifice of the flowers
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: to you know, bloom, to get it nine feet tall, though,
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I don't know how much root
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: you're digging out, but you're talking about some substantial cutback too.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't cut it back, probably till it was done blooming,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: because I'd want to see the bloom. But if you
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: wait too long, if you go to you know, after
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: it's done blooming, it's going to start leafing out and
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: then it's growing. Then it's harder to move. And camellias
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: are not easy to move period. No, No, they're really
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: difficult to move.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would you know, recommend you know, when
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: you do move it, definitely, you know, wherever you move
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: it to, it's going to benefit it with some kind
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: of fertilizer more for camellias, you know, changing the pH
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: and things like that.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: And then HB one oh one.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: You know, we haven't about that in a while, but
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: I would definitely use that on the transplant of a
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: chamelia because.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Do you still have any in stock?
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Uh? Huh oh good? But what about do.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: They still sell anti transparant?
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it used to be spray, Yeah, spray on it. Uh.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: If you can find an anti transpriant, it'll coat the
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: leaves and stop them from a losing water.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: The reason a lot of plants UH have going to transplant, shocker,
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: don't grow after they're transplanted is the roots can't start
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: taking up water enough to support the plant.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Because the roots are trying to make the pilt. The
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: plant just survive right from the transplant.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: The plants Yeah, yeah, so so.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: So it's break time, is what you're trying to say.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it was.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Gonna's break time. Okay, we're gonna take a break. We've
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: got one more segment coming up that'll satisfy the first
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: hour here for Facebook Live and Bistock Radio. So again
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: we're going to take a break for Bistok Radio. Do
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: stay with us. I'm Brian Main talking Palafox, John Beck
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Masco from San Diego, California, Tiger's poolhouse. It's very comfortable
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• 31:04
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• 31:05
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• 31:19
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• 31:22
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• 31:30
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• 31:45
  Speaker 2: don't know if.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Did we talk about April and Ashley on the show.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: We did.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, I shared, I shared the website, okay, and you
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: bought roses from the Well, that's what I.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Wanted to do, is I wanted to report back because
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: at the time I said, I think, I said I
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: was going to place an order and uh, and I did.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Let's preface this by saying that it takes a lot
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: to impress John.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: They were by far the best bear root roses I've
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: ever seen in my life.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: And then the guy that ships and the no.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: I never shipped Bearot roses, not usually I only ship pouted.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: But the packaging was unbelievable, the best boxes I've ever seen,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: wrapped in burr lap tags that looked like there they
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: were wooden tags hanging on the plant.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: They were just awesome. And I think if you order,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: if you order now, you can get.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: A fifteen percent discount. Which varieties of rose did you order?
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's funny because Cheryl, who's listening. Cheryl
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: had gone on one of our trips with us, and
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: she uh and well, actually the whole group. When we
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: were in France, there was a rose called Jean Jean
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Piat which was bred by Michel a Dame in France,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: one of their best new rose breeders. And this plant
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: was so spectacular, was just really beautiful. But it doesn't
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: exist in the US. But for so for excuse me,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: around fifteen years, I've been looking to find this plant
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: and she sent me a note said she was looking
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: for it too. And she sent me a note that
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: said she thought she founded a Reagan nursery up in
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: the Bay Area. Well it turned out the rose they
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: had was not Jean Piat but April and Ashley has
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: a climbing sport of that rose called bohem So, so
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: I got her. Did she tell me she was going
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: to too. I don't know if she got hersia, but
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: I'm really excited to see the flower to make sure
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: it's the same as the other. But if it is,
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: I'll have to take some pictures and bring it in.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: You know something that just I just thought of that
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: I should teach you to do is that Google with
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: old doc nutrients Google, you can put settings into your
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: Google account which you can have get alerts. So, for instance,
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: I have Mission Hills Nursery. I killed gardeners to give
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: me an alert. So whenever there's a news post or
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: something that somebody posts something about me, I can alert
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: so I can know if it's a good or bad
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: you know thing.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: It doesn't scrub for reviews.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it goes. It just sends me an alert
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: on your phone, like an alert like yeah. But what
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: I'm getting at is that if there's a rose that
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: you're interested in, you should put that into that alert.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: And then if somebody was to ever write an article
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: about it or something which would then maybe link.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: To an ability anything to do with alert.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: And you can, then then it would notify you. Because
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: I'm sure there's probably a whole list of roses that
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: you have that you you search for every once in
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: a while, you know, and see if anybody's gotten them.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: I kind of think, and I know that's gonna sound conceited,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: but I kind of think I know more about Google
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: than in this particular area.
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: Well, but no, you said, like this rose that you
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: what was it called bohim It's just called bohem yea
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: bohem So if you were to type in bohem rose,
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: okay and just leave it there in theory, when April
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: and Ashley posted an article about that rose, you would
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: get notified.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: But I wouldn't have known that bohem was Jean Piatt. Oh,
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: it's a climbing sport of Sean Piare, gotcha?
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Gotcha? Okay, so yeah, you do know only that you know.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: I've gone through AI and asked for help writing an
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: article about and that was your first mistake about a rose,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: about a rose breeder. And because I couldn't find more information,
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: you know, information, I thought I found all the information
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: I could find, so I asked them, you know, can
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: you tell me about this? I can't find information? So
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: it sent back this list and of roses he had
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: bred and all about him. And I said, that's absolutely
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: not true. He never bread that rose I was bred
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: by this person. And then it comes back, oh, you're
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: absolutely right.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: I apologize.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if if necessarily you're going to
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: learn something more like just giving you updates on the
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: buzz around that particular rose or whatever, and you can
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: look at it and go, oh, that's interesting on the alerts.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: I see that.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying that in AI in general, I
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: would not trust for specific technology.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Right now, did you test that? Meaning when you corrected AI?
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Wait a couple of days whatever, go back and ask
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: the same question again to see if AI remembered what
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: you said.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: No, No, you messed with me once and that's no.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: But I'm just wondering if because it's supposed to learn,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to learn, and just because you said it,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: you happen to be right. If somebody else said no,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: you're wrong, it's this and that person was wrong, what
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: is AI going to do with that information?
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Well, you know that's interesting because in research for my book,
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: I tried to find out about David Fairchild and Queen
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: Luli o'clanni, and Ai said, there's no there is no
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: information available that these two ever met in real life.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: And I said, that's absolutely not true. Here's a quote
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: from his book where he met her. And then it
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: came back, Oh, yes, you are correct. But now I
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: could I could go back and ask again and see if.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: See and see if it's right, or give it wrong
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: information and see if AI comes back and says, oh, yeah,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: you know what, you're right. John, Speaking of giving wrong,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: we've got a but we got about a minute.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, all right.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Lisa Martin asked regarding her camellia, what if I put
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: it in a large pot or a giant growbag.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Her Camellia.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, I would say a pot is better than
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: the growbag for Camelia is because I think that I
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: think it'd be a little bit more successful. But you
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: know that's just my own opinion.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: That would have to be a huge pot.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, nine foot you were talking nine feet.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: Right, yeah, exactly, Well, she says she was going to
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: cut it back to like three f a.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Right, We're going to take a break in his news
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: time for our friends on Bistok Radio. How about that
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: you'll come back if you do join us for our
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: number two dice deciphering the news and you know, figuring
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: out if it's.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Correctornized God question when we come back. Yeah, So what
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: we're gonna do.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: We're gonna shut things down here, give you a chance
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: to take an intermission, and then we're going to restart
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: the program for hour two for both BIS Talk Radio
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• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Brian Maine, John Bgnascar, Tucker Pella Fox right here on
• 39:23
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• 39:52
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• 39:57
  Speaker 2: hour Facebook. People have things to do. But if you're
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: with us, thank you. Welcome to hour two of the
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Garden America Show. Here from Tiger's pool House in San Diego, California.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: A little bit of rain today, looking good, So we
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: appreciate you tuning in. If you joined us the first
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: hour and you didn't return, we hope it's not because
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: you didn't like the content, but you had something else
• 40:16
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• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll give a little bit of time for people
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: to kind of catch up.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, It takes a minute to kind of shift over
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: to the news show, so it's a shift, yeah, you know.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: And before we get before we get into the sod
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: because you said there was a question. The last hour
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: we have been talking about roses in looking out your
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: window here, I'm looking at your Peggy Martin rose and
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: I just want to wreck.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Amazing looking, isn't it.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's one of the hardest, heartiest roses
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: I've ever seen.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say the hardest rose
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: to kill.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: No, it might be a little bit hard to find,
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: but it is hard to kill. I mean, this rose survive.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: It's called the Peggy.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Martin right under salt water, right.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Because during Katrina, I was under twelve feet of salt
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: water for two weeks. Everything on the property died except
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: this one rose. And and it was a rose that
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: she had found. I think her somebody found and gave
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: her a piece of it.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: But it was already named Peggy Martin.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: No, no, after that, after it survived and she started
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: telling people the story of how it survived, they said, well,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: you know, we need to call it. Then she wanted
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: to call it the Katrina Rose or something. Yeah, that
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: makes sense, right, she said, no, no, you should call
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: it after yourself. Yeah, so they called the Peggy Martin.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: That's a little uh, what do you call what's the word?
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Well, there was, you know, it's a real tragedy. And
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: her parents live next door and they drowned in the flood.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, because so it's kind of in remembrance too, right,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: that kind of.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: They re They refused one of those couples, older couples too.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Usually I refuse to EVACU.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but like you said, it's very already road and
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: it it survives. I was talking to you about how
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: I've had to cut those roots a number of times
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: on creating like a little pathway by and how they
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: were sending out suckers.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Suckers from the roots there to keep going. And that's
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: gonna find a way.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: We are looking at the one covering the fence. I mean,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: this is like could be a nice barrier.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: It blooms all the time right now here. I hear
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: it in the middle of winter and it's in full blow.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you made it. We made a comments about
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: it a couple of weeks ago, and you're like, it's
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: not looking very good. It'd be nice if Tiger watered it. Yeah,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: and now look at a little bit of rain.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: And John gave me the same advice when it comes
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: to soil in pots.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly that. God's the answer was Tiger's busy. I'll
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: do it, okay.
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: John and Bonnie Livingston about to have a lawn resodded
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: with marathon one. Thank you Tiger, because we did the
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: whole marathon lesson a few weeks back.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: And John's doing something in his ear too.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: A gardener wants to kill everything with round up, remove
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: and replace soil. My niece doesn't want her kids playing
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: even on the new grass if soil has been treated
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: with round up. Your thoughts, okay, So I want to
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: preface this, this is just my thoughts. Okay, this is
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: purely my thoughts and my experience and my knowledge of.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: So do what you wish with this knowledge and opinion.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Yes, and so.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: Hold on one second, so you know what it is
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: what your gardener is saying to do is true, meaning
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: you know that's that's something that definitely is.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Well known in this in the world of if you're
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: gonna resaw it an area, you want to kill everything
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: that's there.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: You're starting from scratch, to start from.
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: Scratch, because if you don't, potentially all of those weeds
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: bermuda grass, crab grass will actually come up from under
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: the sod, come through the new sod, and then basically
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: you've got weeds again in your new sod, much quicker
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: than naturally where birds drop seeds and stuff like that
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: in the grass. So it is very true that you
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: want to kill everything so you can kind of start
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: from a clean slate and give your sod more time
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: to be a true you know marathon one sod before
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: it gets infested with weeds. And the best way to
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: do that is with a you know, herbicide like roundup,
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: which is a folier contact kills through the roots and
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: you know, kills everything in there to do that. And
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: then what he's saying in terms of then you scalp
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: the area. Sometimes you use a sod cutter or depending
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: on the area, just dig it out. Take away all
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: that old dead stuff. Now, bring in a little bit
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: of new top soil, put the new sawd down on top,
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: and then go from there and it gives you a
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: nice fresh start. Roundup is a folier based herbicide, which
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: means it only will work if the plant foliage is alive.
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: And also it has to be absorbed through the foliage,
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: so once it goes into.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: The soil, it's neutralized. It's it's neutral, so meaning anything
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: that's left in your soil after you've done this whole process,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: there's no there's no chemical effects, there's no residual no
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: residual effects, and so you don't have to worry about
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: it coming up into the sod, your kids playing on it,
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: your dogs, you walking barefoot.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: You don't have to worry about that at all because
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: it doesn't come up through the plant and then come out,
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: you know, onto the new sod. It's gone once once
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: the product is dry, it is gone. Okay, so you
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: don't have to worry about that. The kind of like
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: back to our our original comic about seeds. People growing
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: things organically, it's because they love the process of growing
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: things organically, not because it actually benefits. And so with
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: this whole thing, if you don't like to use round
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: up because you have something against roundup and Bayer and whatever,
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: that's fine. But this is the best product to use
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: because there's a lot of chemicals out there that they're
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: selling now that are herbicides that actually do stay in
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: the soil and they do create problems, right, They do
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: go into our ground water, and they are now on
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: the market because they've had to remove round up, which
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: is in a mid of closure.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: And they come back with something that the people but
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: they come back and they think these things are safe.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: So you know, in my to answer your question, here's
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: the question, would the best process?
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Would you? Would you do it? Yes?
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, Whenever people ask a question about something like this,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: it gets down to this, would you do it if
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: it was you? Yeah, and you're saying yes, and John,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I'm sure John agrees.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, views a little more controversial.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I would say yes, because here's the thing.
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: If you don't do it, you're gonna have weeds in
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: your new lawn right away, and it's almost pointless of
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: the investment of putting in a new lawn.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: So this is just my opinion, and don't hate Tiger
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: and Brian. If you don't agree with me, that's fine.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: But just from what I've seen, and I do have
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: a chemistry background that was my first major in school.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Round up is probably one of the safest chemicals used
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: in the world.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: That was glyfhasate.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: It developed a bad name because it was made by Monsanto,
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: and all the environmental activists attacked Monsanto because they were
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: genetically modifying corn so that you could spray round up
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: over it and not kill it, so.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: You can have a nice clean crop right weeds.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Ways it would increase crops and everything. So they weren't
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: initially against round up. They were against the company the company,
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: and they were GMOs. So with round Up backing or
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Monsanto backing the GMOs, they attacked Monsanto and its manufacturers
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: of of round up, Monsanto got attacked. Now in addition
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: to that, most of the round up sold on the
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: market today isn't even glyfe is safe. They've changed the chemical.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: And so whether I've noticed that it works quicker than
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: the old round up, because the old roundup worked the
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: way you said it would be taken in through the leaves,
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: go down to the route and kill it from the
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: route up the new one. I see you're spraying and
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: it's turning, turning the leaves brown.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Quicker. Yeah, burns that much quicker.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can see almost immediate results. So
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: they're two different chemicals, even though they're called around up.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: You can still get the old glice essay, which you know,
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: I happen to think is safe. But if you it
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: becomes almost a religion to to environ like I said,
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: environmental activists, and you can't convince them. You know, it's
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: like trying to convince a Republican to become a democrat,
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: or a democrat to become a Republican. It's like whatever
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: you say.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I'm against people opinions many times without having all the
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: factual information, and it's just the way I feel. And
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: that's the way it's going to be.
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: Getting a break, okay, Okay, yeah, we'll keep going a
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: little bit more to add Okay.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: So we're gonna take a break for bistalk Radio, Facebook Live,
• 49:53
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• 49:56
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• 50:02
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• 50:46
  Speaker 3: We are back.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Did we never went any place right here the whole
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: time we've been here. Yeah, but shows always say welcome,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: We're back, welcome, but we should say welcome back to
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: you those listening and those watching on Facebook Live.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead. So the other the other whole process,
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: because we were talking about Glyco round up and the
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: other thing is that the other thing is that there
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: was a class action lawsuit against uh, you know bay
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: Bayer I think was at the manufacturer at the time,
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: and they won where that you know, they accused them
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: of this product causing cancer. And there was a person
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: I think he was in the Bay.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: Area beyor was the metalclop thing.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, so round up was I don't know what company, Monsanto. Yeah.
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: So anyways, they won and it's because you know, it
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: connected it to this gentleman getting cancer by using round up.
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: And he was someone that applied round up to like fields,
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: to parks, to massive areas right, And yeah, there's a
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: lot of chemicals out there that when you absorb them,
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: and when you absorb them at the volume that he did, yes,
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: they're going to cause cancer. Like it's it wasn't.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Like he's it wasn't like he applied them and then
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: a week or two later it went back and rolled
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: around to.
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: The groround in the grass for anything of that sort.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: I know, this was a gentleman that applied these like blanketed.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: You know, this was his part of his job. And
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: it could be windy, and it could be windy, and
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: and yes it caused cancer.
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to argue that, just like I'm not
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: going to argue you know, if you walk into a
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: lead building that you might get sick or anything in
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: that sort. You know, So you know that is a problem. Yeah,
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: if you're using a glycopate and you're not using the
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: proper precautions, you're not you know, putting gloves on, you know,
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: maybe you need to wear a mask.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: And how much he applied and how long he was
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: doing it, He.
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: Did for years, and like I said, large areas, I
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: could hardly doubt the homeowner is doing this enough to
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: have any real you know, if.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: You barbecue long enough with the carcogens. Is that how
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: you have too much carcinogens?
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: So you know, so that's where also it got the
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: bad name because they won, and you know, it's this
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: whole like lawsuit the so it caused cancer. Yes it did,
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: and I'm not going to argue that. But it was
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: also somebody that is not in a normal homeowner situation.
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: And again, this was actually somebody applying it. This wasn't
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: just somebody that walked through a park that was sprayed
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: with this and now they got this.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: And that information is not always given to the public
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: or people don't take time to really investigate something. When
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: you hear something in the news or you're reading on
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: the internet, investigate, do your own investigation, you know, reach
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: out and do what you can. To write to your friends,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: the guard in America, Yeah, exactly, but to formulate an
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: opinion and not just take it for gospel.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: John Cheryl brings up a good point. She said, the
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: real problem is that people don't research their chemicals, even
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: if they're organic. They just go spray random products without
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: addressing what they're actually trying to control.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: And I think that's.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: True, that's very true.
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: I mean we you know, we talk about like you know,
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: we can talk about you know, the amticalope, we talk
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: about Pyrethran's, kneem oil, spinosa.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: You know, all these products are.
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: Great to create a solution for some kind of past.
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: But you know the reason why Spinoza and some of
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: these other products became so popular is because they weren't
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: blanket killers.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: You know, like the old school past. You had to
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: spray it on the necks. That just killed every bug
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: out there.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: You know, it good like chemotherapy kill kills.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Good sales as well, you know exactly.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: But yeah, so you know, we moved into this product
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: realm that. Now, Hey, if you want to kill caterpillars
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: or chewing insects, use this product because we don't want
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: you to kill lady bugs. We don't want you to
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: kill grass on you know, the the.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: And it's a direct kill, right, we have to spray, right,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: a direct kill exactly.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Well, No, the caterpillar spray is uh bacteria.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: That you.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: That's That's what I'm saying.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: But it won't kill the won't kill bugs only at
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: catter pillars.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't think it will kill in aphids.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know, No, I won't.
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so so yeah, and we moved in that because
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: back back in the you know what eighties, you know,
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: we were spring products that just killed every bug in
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: your yard.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Do you remember the first organic uh insecticide that well
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: you don't because you're too young.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Was it put soap? Because the first.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: Organic or the only organic that I can think of.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Are you thinking DDT?
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: No, No, I'm thinking nicotine sulfate? No way, really yeah, really,
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: nicotine sulfate used to be sprayed. And if you look
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: on the back of your chemical labels when you buy them,
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: they'll be a caution, which means that, of course you
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: have to be careful.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: With everything you sprayed and how to use it right.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: But then there's a warranting and warning is stronger, and
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: then there's a skull and crossbones, And the only chemical
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: we carried with the skull and crossbones was the nicotine
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: sulf even though it was yeah, even though it was.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: So, like Cheryl says, you got to research what you're
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: using and what you're spar.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: You know, we talked about this before. When I was
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: a kid, I'd going to the garage and my folks
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: had all these jars, you know, how beer bottles had
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: like that reddish brownish.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they were all brown glass.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Bot So these were all you know, fertilizers and different
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: things that had these brown bottles and every single one
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: of them had a skull and crossbones on it, every
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: srinking it everything.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, they knew there were kids like you
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: and the world, Brian. They just drank every brown bottle
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: out there.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, there are chemicals out there with no warning
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: because they're food great.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like diets matures earth. There's food great, diet
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: matures earth, right.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: You know, like you just put down in a lot
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: of uh garlic base, Oh.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, pesticides. What was the citral was citral? Uh
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: remember it was the fung just side and it was
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: tea tree oil mixed with garlic oil. And then there
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: was envirapel, which was just a garlic Remember when it's
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: spraying it, it's like a salad dressing.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: What was Bruce's famous saying, what's the label is the law?
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: We'd always say the label is the law.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so yeah, there was and there's been a
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: lot of food Even orange TKO was food grade for
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: a while.
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: Remember that orange I mean yeah, I mean I remember
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it is in the sense of
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: like they could say that.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: I remember they were dealing with labeling issues for the
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: longest time.
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: But but yeah, I mean orange TKO was just uh
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: orange oil. Yeah, you know, and they use that to
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: kill termites.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Well you could spray it on your kitchen, Connor and
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: it's safe, you know.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't. Didn't. He used to drink it too,
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: as like a selling point. Oh yeah, didn't use to
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: take like a cap full or something to drink it. Yeah,
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: there was a.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: There was a famous story about one of the petroleum
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: industry scientists when they started making all the chlorinated hydrocarbons
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: and everything showing how safe malithian was, and he drank.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: It and geez, not good. Not good. Wow. Anyway, so
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: long long answer to your question. You know, I mean,
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: what you.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Want to do do it makes you feel comfortable, but
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: there's some knowledge to help you make that decision.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say the biggest thing that you're combating
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: when you're that through a re sotting process is the
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: weeds coming back, coming back lawn. You know.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: It's just a matter of how you want to buy
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: that time, you.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: Know, and especially if you've got Bermuda graphs.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Right, it's going to come back.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: It's going to come through for sure unless you do something.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we're going to take a break. We've got
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: two more segments coming up. The next segments, though one
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: are the longer ones, more time for pontificating, so uh
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: we'll be doing that and uh, hey a break for
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: BIS Talk Radio. Thank you for joining us. Those on
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• 59:12
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• 59:14
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• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: everyone's back. It's just a good old time here John
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: having a good time laughing and scratching as John used
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: to say during the show.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: And back to John and Newport Beach's question on the sid.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: Was it his daughter, Yeah, yeah, knees or something. Can
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: remember I don't have that one pulled up right now.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I was gonna say, you know, rather than
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: starting a fight with your daughter, you might want to
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: just live with.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: A weedy lawn. Yeah, right, yeah, exactly right.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: So but I will say that kind of leads me
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: into another subject on the same topic, is right now
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: though you know, we talk about herbicides, we talk about pesticides,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: we're talking about winter and frost. A lot of those
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: things are not very effective this time of year. Like
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: I said with the with the round of products, that
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: the plant has to be alive. So if it's dormant
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: grass or if you haven't watered your grass.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: It has it has to be green. Yeah, it has
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: to be great.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: Like you were saying earlier, a lot of people think, oh, clear,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: the clear of the area.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: Then what's round up? It does nothing. It's a waste, right,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: it's a waste. And so you know, when whether you're
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: spraying an herbicide in your garden or like this description
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: of what we're doing resorting an area, kind of a
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: lot of those products are not effective this time of
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: year because either it's too cold, the plant isn't alive,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: or if it rains. Kind of and they say, oh,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: you know, twenty four hours they always on the package.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh, it's if it cannot be watered or
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: rained on twenty four hours I've it delutes it if
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: you get if you have your sprinklers come on twenty
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: four hours later, or if you're getting a rain event
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: twenty four or three days later, it really delutes it.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: We don't you think this.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: Is a good time to spray round up though, because
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: the weeds are actively growing, the ones that are coming up.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: If they're actively growing, yes, But if it's too cold
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: or if it's going to rain, no, so because you
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: know they won't it'll get washed off or it doesn't absorb.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: Because that's the other thing too, is on the path
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: they're going to say a minimum temperature, and for us,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: we usually are never under that minimum. But there are
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: places that do fall under that minimum that if you
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: spray a product, it's not effective. And then a lot
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: of times for bugs, people will say they spray for
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: bugs right now, Well, a lot of the bugs again
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: are going to dorm it.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: They're not active that you know.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: You know, there's very few products that you can use
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: that are going to prevent on bugs right now. I
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: mean we talk about you know, the stone fruits, the oils,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: the you know, things like that that are dormant. You know,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: bug sprays, but a lot of the other stuff is
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: not effective right now, So.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: I don't you know that I don't spray for insects
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: in the house and all, I don't spray anything. But
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: when all the new rose leaves come out, I'm going
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: to have an explosion of a fits, which is you know,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: I used to really alarm me. Now I look at
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: it as good because that means I now have a
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: food source for the ladybugs when they're hatch. You know,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: if the ladybugs have and there's there's no they'll.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: Leave, they'll exit.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: If they don't have a food, there's nothing for me.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they'll they'll they'll find food elsewhere, right.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: And then you know the other thing too that it is,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: like you say, kind of a good time of the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: year is that you know it's cooler, so you can
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: usually you know, it's some of the bug sprays that
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: you know are effective this time year. It's easy to
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: apply them because it's not hot like we talked about
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: in the summertime when people are applying oil based sprays
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: and then it burns their foliage.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: So you know, it's it's kind of knowing what works
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: in your yard and knowing you know what you need
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: to do so a little trial and error.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: Carlon mentions that bermuda grass is one of the things
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: that reminds her that there's no heaven on Earth.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: True, it just comes up everywhere, and I can spray it,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: and I can kill a section of it, and somehow
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: it comes back.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: By the way, it's trowel and air. Look you see
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: a cartoon.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Come, oh wait till I get my raised bad idea.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: We all caught up pretty much, I think.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: So Rick wants to know about pre emergence tiger, how
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: did they work and are they weed specific?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Was Rick and Thailand? Is that where that picture came from?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: You know, he sent me a bunch of pictures.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: So was it Thailand or Southeast Asia?
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: I think if I recall, we were talking about visiting
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: the chang My area.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he asked, right, yeah, a couple of weeks ago.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: How they have an annual plant show there every year.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: But he wants to know. I'm sorry, pre.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: Emergence so real quick, because I think we've covered this
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: before as far as how pre emergents work.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: So pre emergence are you know, you prevent seeds from germinating?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to say seeds from German eating, because
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: it's not just weed seeds. I'm talking all seeds from germanating.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: So if you have a wildflower garden and you put
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: pre emergence down, you no longer have a wildflower garden.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: And the chemical doesn't really kill the seed.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, it forms a gaseous layer at the
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: surface of the soil, which doesn't allow the seeds to germinate.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: I think, well, I could be wrong, but I thought
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: as they germinated, they were killed to meet Okay, yeah, did.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: You think he would use the term gaseous layer when
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: we started the show was that you never know what's
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: come out of his must.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: But a lot of people don't know that, and then
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: they put this down and then they rake it or
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: they work the area, and every time you work the.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: Area, you break up layer. Yeah, and it makes sense.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: It really does need to be a thing that you
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: put down. And they usually last for about thirty days,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: sometimes they say sixty or ninety days. You know some
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: pre emergence out.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: There that the heavy duty prem lasts for six months.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so, but that just means you have to
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: be careful breaking up that area for six months if
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: you want it to be effective.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you plant something in the air, you
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: should reapply that area or you're gonna have weeds right
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: where you Yeah, you plan it.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: And then I will say the last thing with pre
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: emergence is it's seeds. So we talked about udograss, doesn't
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: it doesn't hurt anything being produced by a root or
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: like a nut like nut sedge or anything like that, right,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: So so yeah, so, I mean, you know, I mean
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: they're great. What about bulbs, though, I don't think that
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: it stops it, does it, because.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: I've I've heard that it can have a negative effect
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: on it.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: But it doesn't stop completely. I don't know.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure it kind of depends on how vigorous
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: like the bulbs are or anything like that, because you know,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: it's like you're saying, it's breaking that gaseous layer that
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: when that bulb emerges, maybe it'll be hurt by it. Yeah,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: but but yeah, I mean, I I fully support pre
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: emergence because I think they're a great way to control weeds,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: especially if you've disrupted an area, like that's the thing
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: people make an area all beautiful and clean, and then
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: after the first rain we just take it over, you know,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: and so.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: We uh Rick says, are they weed specific?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: They're not.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: They're seeds specific. It's only seeds.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So I mean, you know, whether you planted tomatoes
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: or where you planted anything else, it's not going to go.
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  Speaker 3: But if you put in tomato plants and then put
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: the pre emergent down, there's no problem.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, as long.
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  Speaker 5: As your stuff is established, like we're talking about, then
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: you're you're you're perfectly fine for those pre emergents.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And also use it in lawns.
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  Speaker 4: I've been finding using the preen that putting a I
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: sprinkle the area, hose it down, wet it down, and
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: then put a mulch over the top. So that way,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: you know, yeah, it holds it in and you're less
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: like you can walk over it and you're not breaking
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: that la.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah that's good. And you know, never never a bad
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: thing for mulch.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: You know, Oh you've got a mulch. Yeah, you got
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: a mulch.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: That's a popular T shirt with gardeners.
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  Speaker 5: My ut, my neighbor on this side, he gets one
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: of those like chip drops probably like once a month
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  Speaker 5: he just spreads.
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  Speaker 3: And really really yeah, I get that too. Yeah, yours
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: is different because your son just shows up and then
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: drops it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he does his business and he has a
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: chipper and yeah when he's got a haul away the chips,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: it's cheaper than going to the dump man.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: You know, we're happy to have.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, it's just creating that beautiful loamy soil
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: level in an area you're gonna have where where Where
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: would you say he drops it the most, because I
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: mean you can't always use it up around your house.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: Most of it down by his.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: House down below though, right by like the chicken coop area. Yeah,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: so and like five years, that's gonna be just just
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: rich loaming.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: I think it already is because it had probably over
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: the five years, close to two feet of mulch added.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you, now, what about the composting
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: of it?
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: So meaning how long?
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: Because you're you're just spreading it, right, This isn't like
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: a compost pile.
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  Speaker 3: That you're heating up right, you know and all.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: That, So it takes longer to compost so a year,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: like let's say you put a coat down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all mulches that unless you're using something like the
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: the painted mulches. You know that they put out the
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: black mulch or or rubber mults, of course, but all
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: the mulches, you know, naturally break down. You know, if
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: you go to the rainforest, you know their soils are
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: the worst soils in the world, but they've got tons
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: of mulch from the constant action of dropping down and
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: the soil organism's breaking it up. So if you're not
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: using chemical fertilizers, they break down pretty quick.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Break time, John, Okay, perfect, One more segment coming up.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: It's the shorter segment, the shorter segment of the show.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: We wrap things up. It's called the epilogue. We're gonna
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: We're gonna exit soon, so do stay with us. We're
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: gonna take one more break for BIS Talk Radio back
• 1:10:24
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• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: the break. So again, this is gard in America back
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: after this, we are back.
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  Speaker 3: How about that. We got a couple questions to hit.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: But I do have a question for John. We're going
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: a cultch thing again.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: It is Garden America. By the way, we say, we're back.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: Welcome to guard in America.
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  Speaker 3: So is your area that mulched? Like have you tried
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: to dig in it.
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  Speaker 4: No, but you know the hillside where the going down
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: from the back of my yard, they have all the
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: old garden roses in it.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: That area was you know, every everything had to be
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: planned with the jack camera. And now I can dig
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: it with shovel okay, and that's been what five years? Yeah, okay,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: so yeah, you could probably definitely dig with a shovel
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  Speaker 3: in that area. Let's see, Carla, I brought a I
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: bought a s little Cyclemane Trader Joe's Lucia Cycloman, Lucia
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: Lusiah Alujah. The bloom is pink, flat and five pedaled.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: Would love to find it in a six pack. Well,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: that's not gonna happen. They don't sell those plants in
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: six bags. They don't, I mean.
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  Speaker 4: Because most cyclomen come from bulbs, and even the little
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: starter plants, you know, form a little bulb, and it's
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: too expensive.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: The six pack would be like twelve dollars no more.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: But who knows, because I never imagined growing up that
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: I'd find tulips are high since in a six back,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: So who knows. Maybe someday. But anyway, that variety, those
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: new cyclic and varieties we really like.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: Really yeah, so yeah, good luck. But yeah, those are
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: gonna be tough to find. They're and they're like I say, expensive.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: Tanya touched on something that I really like. I'm a
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: big advocate for gorilla hair, which is also shredded shredded
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: redwood mulch. She said, what is the best mulch? I
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: like gorilla hair, but it can be hard to find.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, like the best multch is whatever you
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: really like the one you use is. Yeah, but if
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: you were just if you had asked me, I do.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: I'm a huge advocate for gorilla hair because it's it's
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: very good at matting and like holding an area down.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: I like the look of it also, and it actually
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: breaks down quicker than most bark nuggets, And that's the
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: whole point of a mult too, is you want it
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: to break down. Most bark nuggets take a longer time
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: to break down, so therefore they're around longer. I want.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: I want to reapply my mult every six months to
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: a year because I know it's a mending the soil nicely,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: you know. So I do like gorilla.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: Well, she said she's having a hard time finding it
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: and kind says she imagines it's hard to get off
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: with gorilla.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, have you ever tried to shave a gorilla?
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: Especially the big silver backs? Yeah?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're cut up?
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: Are now? We're good? So? How about this is our
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: last timing? Is this our last segment? This is our
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: last segment? Yeah? So no show next week, no show
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: next week. The week after, it'll be just Brian and I.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: We're going to bring John on though. John's going to
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: call in.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: Maybe we could even do some other calls too, sure,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: fun take a little like caller list for the show.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: We can actually field phone.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: Calls, may get a caller enriched show.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so if you're interested in that, we'll send a
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: newsletter post. If you're interested in calling during that show,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: we can have some fun with that.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: You're going to call in and talkers, maybe grab somebody else.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: The reason I'm not here, I'm still working. Yeah, but
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be up at the la R read
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: to you.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: Well, this is where we say he's on assignment.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, it'd be work to you guys, to me, to me,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: it's fun. But yeah, I'm going to be at the
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: Pacific Growth Society's Annual auction.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: Fun.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: So it's kind of neat. It's a long drawn on affair.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: But you get a free lunch. Hey, look at that
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: free pot luck lunch. If anyone wants to go, I
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: think it's starts around ten. I'm not sure at the
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: La Arboretum at La two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've got a better filter than you do.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: After you said long drawn Out of fair Man.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of movies that ran through.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of things. I'm just not gonna say.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: You know, it was fun for me inside there.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds like a fifties movie.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: Long draw the long drawn Out of fair black and white.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, off subject, but I watched off I watched.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: The James Bond this week, which one a new one,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: the new No Time to Die or something like that.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: But do you remember the one thing about James Wall
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: movies is the intros were always so long.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well they set it up and then and then
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: yeah there was like a skier going off like all
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: these like.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: They didn't have that in the first two or three.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: I think, oh really that came afterwards.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: Kevin pointed out really quick that he says he thinks
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: a lot of mulches have bad stuff in it?
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: Where do you get your mulch? Tiger? So I think
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: he's thinking of like some of these free ship drops. Yeah,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: like you're saying the molts drops free.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: Mulch places we have. The current president of the Coastal
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: ROAs Society Plant got some of that free mulch from
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: mirror Marus or.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: That's where you can go and get it from here locally,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: mar Yeah, it was either there. I think it was there.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: But anyway, he put it around his roses and he
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: put in like thirty new roses last year. None of
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: his roses grew the entire year.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like a lot.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: I've beld say about a third die and the others
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: did nothing.
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  Speaker 3: And from the mult could be the pH of the multch,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: could be what was in the molts as far as
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: like shredded.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: You know, one good question to ask, where does this
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: mulch come from?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they won't be able to you know, they
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: get it from every.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying for any time you get mulch.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but to answer where we get our mult from?
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: So number one, we get bagged mulch, which comes from
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 5: actual like bark and multch producers but number two, we're
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: gonna get mulch from like Southwest Boulder and Stone or
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: someplace like that. We don't ever do the whole like
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: free mult thing. And I got nothing against him. I'm
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: not gonna you know, but like what John just said,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: you just kind of never know what you're gonna get.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so you get what you paid for.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is so true, right, Yeah, that that statement
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: has never been more true.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one minute, one minute remaining is I used to
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: say during the basketball and hockey games.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Carlo is upset because she says we're making her
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: very sad with these no show weekends.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Oh no, we're gonna catch up. This is just a
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: little phase we're going on.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: The problem is that Tiger still has a family.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he and my son plays sports.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: So what you're saying is you you put your family first?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: Is that it? Although although who's in Huntington Beach, which
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: of our listeners is we have Carlo Carlo, I will
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: be there next weekend. That's where I will be his honey,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: so she can come see you. Yeah, exactly. We can
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: hang out at the Huntingdon.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: Sports Car and you can ask a couple of questions. Yeah,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: they say we're gonna we gonna wrap things up. I
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: know we'll be back on track, they'll but there'll be
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: several shows coming. We won't take any more time off.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: It's just one of those things. And John's gonna be off,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: but we'll have him on in two weeks yep, so
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: he'll still be with us. Thank you for joining us
• 1:18:23
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• 1:18:26
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• 1:18:29
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• 1:18:31
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• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: a guest in two weeks here on Guarden America. Until then,
• 1:18:37
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