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Mild mannered middle school principal has blood on his shirt same day his wife found shot dead: COINCIDENCE OR MURDER? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, number of one, nine one
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  Speaker 1: one one bare American theme. I try to find my wife.
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  Speaker 1: You're trying to find your wife? Yeah, Sven and you
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  Speaker 1: guy here her? Do you know what directions to usually walk?
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  Speaker 1: Then I know exactly. I'll road the whole area. You
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  Speaker 1: are hearing the voice of the high school principle who
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  Speaker 1: suddenly realizes his wife is gone. That's the nine one
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  Speaker 1: one call. I Meancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being with us. We're trying to glean any
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  Speaker 1: information we can. Did I hear him correctly? With me
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  Speaker 1: John Linley, investigative reporter at the Crime online dot Com
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  Speaker 1: to say he was upstairs asleep, came back down and
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  Speaker 1: she was gone. Didn't it was that correct? Did I
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  Speaker 1: hear that correct? And stating the obvious? It's hard to
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  Speaker 1: understand him. He said he was sleeping, it's not normal
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  Speaker 1: for her to be gone, and he had already driven around.
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  Speaker 1: He said, I've already wrote around, meaning he had driven
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  Speaker 1: her usual route for walking. You know, for a high
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  Speaker 1: school principal, A that's a grammar felony. But I'm more
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  Speaker 1: concerned about the wife right now with me an all
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  Speaker 1: star panel to break it down put it back together again.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me a renowned pathologist, the Deputy Chief Medical Examiner
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  Speaker 1: in Buffalo, doctor Katherine Maloney, John Cardillo, former NYPD forensic psychiatrists.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me out of the Florida jurisdiction, doctor Daniel Bober.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcott, judge, trial lawyer. You can find her Ashley
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  Speaker 1: Wilcot dot com. Well, you know, right off the bat,
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcot, I got a little problem because there's a
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  Speaker 1: bullet hole in the floor of the bedroom. Now, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just assuming you was a taking a nap in the bedroom.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't hear a gun go off. And if there
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  Speaker 1: was a gunfire in the bedroom, where is she? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And the best part of that, Nancy, as he said, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why there's a bullet I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't have a gun. On top of that,
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  Speaker 1: let me suggest this that most spouses, when they live
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  Speaker 1: in the same house, if one of them goes out,
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  Speaker 1: especially the female, a female goes out to take a
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  Speaker 1: walk at night, generally the other spouse, boyfriend, girlfriend, whoever
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  Speaker 1: lives in the house with them, doesn't just go to sleep,
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  Speaker 1: but rather kind of pays attention listens to make sure
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  Speaker 1: they hear him come back. Ye, now, hold on, hold
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  Speaker 1: your horses, Ashley Wilcott. I think you're correct in meniications,
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  Speaker 1: but sometimes I never know if my husband David is
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  Speaker 1: in or out. Less I hear the ring sound on
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  Speaker 1: my cell phone. It sounds like bewitch casting a spell
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  Speaker 1: like and I go, well, there goes David. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: if I didn't have the ring, what I really like
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  Speaker 1: to do is speak to him through the phone. It
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  Speaker 1: kind of always scares him and I can watch him.
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  Speaker 1: That's very curious what you're bringing up, um, Doctor Kathery
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  Speaker 1: Maloney with me, John Cardillo, doctor Daniel Bober, John Limley
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  Speaker 1: with Crime online dot Com. John, let me understand he
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  Speaker 1: didn't know where the bullet came from. The bullet hole
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  Speaker 1: in his bedroom floor. Is that where he's supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be taking a nap? And why is he taking a
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  Speaker 1: nap at night? If he waited forty five minutes, he
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  Speaker 1: could go to sleep well. He says he doesn't even
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  Speaker 1: own a gun and has no earthly idea why a
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  Speaker 1: bullet would even be on the bedroom floor, let alone
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  Speaker 1: a hole in the floor next to the bullet. And
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  Speaker 1: as for sleeping. Your guess is as good as mine.
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  Speaker 1: No one has explained that so much hope. Maybe he
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  Speaker 1: was just down for the night, but he did make
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  Speaker 1: it sound like he was taking a nap. Well, it
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  Speaker 1: didn't take long for others to do what James Yarborough,
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  Speaker 1: the principle could not do. Listen, the corner tells us
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  Speaker 1: that that woman found is Karen Yarborough from Somerville, who
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  Speaker 1: had gone missing. At this time, it's not clear how
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  Speaker 1: long she had gone missing for, but I did reach
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  Speaker 1: out to the coroner to ask him about that. But
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  Speaker 1: we also have learned that she's expected to have an
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  Speaker 1: autopsy at the Medical University of South Carolina, and deputies
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  Speaker 1: tell us that she is an apparent victim of a homicide.
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  Speaker 1: They actually got a tip. Deputies got a tip that
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  Speaker 1: there was a body found here on Harrison Road, and
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  Speaker 1: from there they came out here and this scene has
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  Speaker 1: been active. Deputies and knines have been coming in and
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  Speaker 1: out all day long. This is actually off of a
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  Speaker 1: gravel road and this area is surrounded by woods. Now
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  Speaker 1: we are still waiting to learn how exactly miss Yarborough
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  Speaker 1: ended up here in the town of Dorchester. In the
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  Speaker 1: town of Dorchester Bay to you John Lumley, investigative reporter
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  Speaker 1: with Crime online dot Com, the town of Dorchester. Where
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  Speaker 1: is that in relation to the high school principal James
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  Speaker 1: Yarborough and his wife Karen's home. They lived in Somerville,
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina. Karen was a business manager in Charleston, about
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  Speaker 1: twenty five miles southeast. That will give you a better
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  Speaker 1: idea of the region we're talking about in South Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: And then where she was found. Where her body was
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  Speaker 1: found was right on the edge of protected Audubon wildlife
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  Speaker 1: preserve called the Bibler Forest. Take a listen to our
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  Speaker 1: friends at WCBD. This is Taylor Murray. Police are investigating
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  Speaker 1: this as a murder after a woman was found dead
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  Speaker 1: earlier today in rural Dorchester County and is an ongoing investigation.
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  Speaker 1: But here is what we know now. Earlier today, the
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  Speaker 1: Dorchester County Sheriff's Office received a report about a body
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  Speaker 1: near the Bibler Forest along Harrison Road in Dorchester. The
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  Speaker 1: Dorchester County Corner later identified the body as a missing
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  Speaker 1: Somerville woman, sixty three year old Karen Yarborough. Additional details
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  Speaker 1: are still limited at this time, but the Somerville Police Department,
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  Speaker 1: Dorchester County Sheriff's Office, and the Dorchester County Coroner's Office
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  Speaker 1: are investigating this together, and we're told that an autopsy
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  Speaker 1: is scheduled for Thursday morning at MUSC John Linley Crime
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  Speaker 1: online dot Com. What do we know about the cod
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  Speaker 1: cause of death? Well, the Dorchester County Coroner's Office says
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  Speaker 1: that it was obvious that this is a homicide, and
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  Speaker 1: the autopsy has revealed We have just the basics of
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  Speaker 1: the autopsy report at this point, the full thing still
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  Speaker 1: to come. The autopsy revealed that she died from a
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  Speaker 1: gunshot to the head. Joining me as I mentioned doctor
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  Speaker 1: Catherine Maloney out of New York and forensic psychiatrist doctor
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Bober. I've got so many questions running through my
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  Speaker 1: mind right now to doctor Catherine Maloney. Why is it
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  Speaker 1: they'd take one look at the body and they immediately
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  Speaker 1: say this is a homicide? Well, I mean that it
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  Speaker 1: would be based on the circumstances of the scene investigation.
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  Speaker 1: At times we're performing an autopsy, you can get information
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  Speaker 1: about the range of fire. So if this was a
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  Speaker 1: self inflicted gunshot wound, you might expect to see certain
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  Speaker 1: characteristics of the wound that would let you know that
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  Speaker 1: the gun was held closer to the head, which we
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  Speaker 1: often see in a self inflicted gunshot wound versus wound
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  Speaker 1: from a distance where there wouldn't be those findings. So
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  Speaker 1: there may have been findings like that that the forensic
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  Speaker 1: mythologists saw. Or to John Cardillo from an NYPD, he's
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  Speaker 1: been around the block once or twice in New York.
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  Speaker 1: It may be as simple as you see that the
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  Speaker 1: back of her head is blown out with a gun,
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  Speaker 1: and you know that she could not possibly maneuver a
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  Speaker 1: weapon to shoot herself in the back of the head
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  Speaker 1: right now, So yeah, you could. You could look at
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  Speaker 1: a body and if there's no stippling, there's no powder burns,
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  Speaker 1: and if, of course, if the round entered from the
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  Speaker 1: back of the head, then you're gonna rule out suicide
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  Speaker 1: pretty quickly, and you're gonna run erring on the side
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  Speaker 1: of safety on the premise that it was a homicide.
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  Speaker 1: But I get to doctor Daniel Bober, who is an
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  Speaker 1: MD as well as a psychiatrist. Doctor Daniel Bober, I
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  Speaker 1: hear what doctor Catherine Maloney is saying. Sometimes you see
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  Speaker 1: a body, you find a body, say, in their apartment,
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  Speaker 1: and it looks like the person's asleep. You don't see
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  Speaker 1: any trauma, you don't see any marks around the neck,
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  Speaker 1: you don't see a stab wound, a gunshot, and once
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  Speaker 1: you've seen a gunshot, you know what a gunshot looks like. Now,
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  Speaker 1: of course there's the opportunity to be shot with a
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  Speaker 1: like Saya twenty two, but she leaves a little leno up.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like it's nothing depending on where your shot.
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  Speaker 1: But typically with a gunshot wound, you know it's a
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  Speaker 1: gunshot wound. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, we are talking
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  Speaker 1: about the murder a beautiful mom Karen Yarborough, a business executive,
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  Speaker 1: as well to doctor Daniel Bober. Doctor Bober, clearly this
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  Speaker 1: was not her regular walking path. So what this says
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  Speaker 1: to me at the very outset is that's not where
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  Speaker 1: the murder occurred. She was taken there, that's not where
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  Speaker 1: she normally walks. That I go for a walk, and
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  Speaker 1: then no, I don't want to pretend I'm dale. Let's
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  Speaker 1: see Ashley Wilcote goes for a walk. Okay, I'll let
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  Speaker 1: her die. Ashley Wilcote goes for a walk and then
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  Speaker 1: Suddenly her body's found five miles away at the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of a rasine and she's been shot. Okay, what that
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  Speaker 1: tells me? Right there, she was not killed on her
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  Speaker 1: normal walk. I don't know if she ever was on
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  Speaker 1: a normal walk and she was murdered, Okay. When the
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  Speaker 1: body is found, when Ashley's found, there's not a gun there.
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  Speaker 1: If this had been suicide, the weapon would still be there.
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  Speaker 1: So it tells me she was not killed on her
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  Speaker 1: normal walk. Ashley was taken somewhere and dumped. Sorry, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: so bober, what does this scenario tell you about Karen
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  Speaker 1: Yarborough's death? Obviously that she was not you know, within
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  Speaker 1: her comfort zone, in her geographical area, that her body
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  Speaker 1: was moved from her from that location where where the
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  Speaker 1: actual murder occurred and dump. You know. Another issue, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: you're alive again with me, judge trial lawyer Ashley Wilcot
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  Speaker 1: at Ashley Wilcot dot com. Ashley. Another issue is this
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  Speaker 1: was about twenty miles away from her home. Okay. Again,
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  Speaker 1: the weapon was not found with her. She's got what
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  Speaker 1: we think is a single gunshot wound way in Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: So it is exactly you know, the first place they
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  Speaker 1: look when they investigate us a crime scene, which is
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  Speaker 1: where the body is located. So the distance from the
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  Speaker 1: house is an issue if in fact a husband were
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  Speaker 1: to believe believed that she had quote unquote gone out
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  Speaker 1: on a walk. But add to that, because you have
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  Speaker 1: a secondary crime scene right of her house, because you
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  Speaker 1: have a bullet a hole in the ground then or
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  Speaker 1: a hole in the floor. Rather you put those two
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  Speaker 1: things together and it doesn't add up. This woman has
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  Speaker 1: been murdered and dumped. Are we connecting the dots too soon?
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  Speaker 1: How would someone in a home not know a gun
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  Speaker 1: had been fired right there in their own bedroom? Take
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  Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at WCSC at least went
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  Speaker 1: to Yarborough's house to talk to him. They saw some
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  Speaker 1: things that didn't add up. They saw bloodstains on his shirt.
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  Speaker 1: Yarborough told them it was an old shirt and he
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  Speaker 1: was taking blood thinners. They also found Karen Yarborough's purse
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  Speaker 1: with her cell phone at it. Cops also found a
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  Speaker 1: bullet in the master bedroom. Yarborough told them he did
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  Speaker 1: not own a gun. A few hours later, someone found
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  Speaker 1: Karen Yarborough's body near the beat La Forest in Dorchester County.
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  Speaker 1: James Yarborough was taken into custody and charged with murder,
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  Speaker 1: obstruction of justice, a possession of a weapon during a
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  Speaker 1: violent crime. Gosh, don't make sense. Bill Blevins owns the
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  Speaker 1: Tasty Freeze restaurant across from Somerville High School, where Yarborough
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  Speaker 1: was principal from nineteen ninety four through nineteen ninety eight.
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  Speaker 1: Blevin says Yarborough used to come there in a regulars.
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  Speaker 1: He was surprised to hear about his arrest. He'd like
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  Speaker 1: a super nice bed. I don't understand. Police are still
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  Speaker 1: trying to determine what led to the murder. That's Harv
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  Speaker 1: Jacobs there at WCSC. The ripple effect of a high
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  Speaker 1: school principle, A mild mannered high school principle potentially being
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  Speaker 1: involved in his wife's murder. The ripples go on. Take
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  Speaker 1: a listen to WCS. A former principal at Somerville High
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  Speaker 1: has been charged with killing his wife. Somerville police arrested
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  Speaker 1: James Yarborough in the death of his wife, Karen Yarborough.
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  Speaker 1: James Yarborough charged with murder, possession of a weapon during
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  Speaker 1: a violent crime, and obstruction of justice. Karen Yarborough's body
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  Speaker 1: was found near the Bidler National Forest in Dorchester County.
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  Speaker 1: Somerville police went to Yarborough's home to investigate his wife's disappearance.
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  Speaker 1: James Yarborough reportedly told officers his wife said she was
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  Speaker 1: going for a walk about eight Monday night, straight out
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  Speaker 1: to Katherine Maloney, the Deputy Chief Medical Examiner in Buffalo Again, DOTR. Maloney,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. All police reports, all
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  Speaker 1: news accounts state that her body was dumped, which gives
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  Speaker 1: me a big clue. Kieran's body was found dumped in
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  Speaker 1: a wooded area about twenty miles from home Dorchester County,
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina. How can you look at a body, doctor
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  Speaker 1: Maloney until it's been dumped, as opposed to that's where
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  Speaker 1: the crime occurred, or they fell and died, or they
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  Speaker 1: fell and died of natural causes. Why did they all
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  Speaker 1: say they could look at the body until it was dumped. Well,
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  Speaker 1: in this case, I'm guessing it's because at the scene
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  Speaker 1: where they found her, there probably wasn't the blood that
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  Speaker 1: they'd expect to see. So if this is where the
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  Speaker 1: crime was committed, then you would or where she was shot,
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  Speaker 1: then you would expect to see a lot of blood
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  Speaker 1: there from the bleeding from the gunshot wound, and there
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  Speaker 1: probably wasn't any blood there. Also, this is twenty miles
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  Speaker 1: from her home, so it's not like she was going
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  Speaker 1: out for a leisure league twenty mile walk in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the evening. She's very far from her house,
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  Speaker 1: so she was brought there. If there's no vehicle there,
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  Speaker 1: then how did she get there? I mean, unless she's
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  Speaker 1: a marathon runner, presumably she didn't run there and then
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  Speaker 1: suddenly die of natural causes. So I think the logical
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  Speaker 1: assumption is that someone brought the body there and dumped
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  Speaker 1: it there. M you know, on the NINA one call
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  Speaker 1: to doctor Daniel Bober. Doctor Bober, what do you make
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  Speaker 1: of his demeanor on the phone? Well, you know, he
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  Speaker 1: seemed a little bit too calm and collected for someone
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  Speaker 1: whose wife has been missing. But you know, again you
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  Speaker 1: can't draw always draw firm conclusions from that, but he
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  Speaker 1: sounds like almost flat. I would say, it didn't seem
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  Speaker 1: like it was really consistent or congruent with the context
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  Speaker 1: of what was going on. To Ashy Wilcott. It seemed
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  Speaker 1: to me he's setting up that she committed suicide. Because
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  Speaker 1: he tails cops, you know, after they come to speak
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  Speaker 1: to him. Guys with me Ashy Wilcott and trial Lawyering.
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  Speaker 1: You can find her at Ashley Wilcot dot com. He
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  Speaker 1: says she's been depressed, that he got ready for bed
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  Speaker 1: and went to bed at eight o'clock, that she was
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  Speaker 1: depressed and went for a walk. You know, if my husband,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, said he was depressed right there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'd have to call his family. David, it is not
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  Speaker 1: the kind of person that says I'm depressed. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I've ever heard him say that in his whole life.
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  Speaker 1: He no. And Plus, if he did say I'm depressed,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going for a walk in the dark, I would
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  Speaker 1: try to keep him from going. I would say, look,
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  Speaker 1: let me make you a cup of coffee, you know,
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  Speaker 1: let's just go sit outside and talk. Or I would
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  Speaker 1: not somebody say I'm depressed and they go for a
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  Speaker 1: walk in the dark. That would concern me, Ashley. But
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  Speaker 1: that is what he told police. Yeah, that is what
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  Speaker 1: he told police. But frankly, his entire story didn't make
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  Speaker 1: much sense by the end of it. However, having said that,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I meant, I think I'll circle back to
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  Speaker 1: when you have a spass or someone you live with,
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  Speaker 1: and especially like you point out Nancy, when they say
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  Speaker 1: they're depressed and it's dark and they're going for a walk.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe that you're just gonna, okay, go to bed,
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  Speaker 1: fall asleep, and then all of a sudden realize there, Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my wife is missing. It's too suspicious because you would
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  Speaker 1: take different steps if you knew they were depressed or
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  Speaker 1: going through things. Time stories to Greece summer of my
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  Speaker 1: nine one one looks like a Sharry emergency. I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to find my wife. You're trying to find your wife? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I want saving and going. Who's got here her? Do
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  Speaker 1: you know what directions she usually walks in? I know,
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  Speaker 1: Jack rode the whole area. You are hearing the voice
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  Speaker 1: of a high school principle who suddenly realizes his wife
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  Speaker 1: is gone. That's the nine one one call. Did you notice, Ashley?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, we're trial lawyers, you're a judge as well.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still a lay person. But his speech she sounded
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  Speaker 1: slurred on the phone call. It's hard to understand. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: definitely sounded out of it. And I did notice that
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  Speaker 1: because again, if I thought my spouse were really missing,
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  Speaker 1: I would be panicked, upset, crying, freaked out. Something other
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  Speaker 1: than as it's almost like he's asleep still or I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why flouring his speech, but something sounds off.
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  Speaker 1: How did these two meet? What's their history? Take a
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  Speaker 1: listen to our friend bro be hard at people liked
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  Speaker 1: him flipping it through time. She always had a smile
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  Speaker 1: on her face. She was just the sweetest girl. Ken
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  Speaker 1: Bowman's reminded of the year's spin with Stan and Karen Yarborough. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he says, all three of them were high school classmates
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  Speaker 1: and have been neighbors the last several years. Standing Karen
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  Speaker 1: were just typical high school students when I knew him,
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  Speaker 1: And we hate that this has happened, and we hate
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  Speaker 1: what Stand's gonna have to go through if he has
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  Speaker 1: found guilty. Police charge Stan Yarborough with the murder of
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  Speaker 1: his wife Karen on Tuesday. Several neighbors say they've heard
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  Speaker 1: the couple arguing, but Ken says he never saw anything
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  Speaker 1: out of the ordinary. But I had never heard of
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  Speaker 1: any problem with the two of them at all, And
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing we can do for Karen anymore. Hardly anything
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  Speaker 1: we can do for Stan, but there are things we
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  Speaker 1: can do for their family members. Did John Limley Crime
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Online dot Com investigative reporter, what do you know about
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: their relationship? Well, they had done each other, Karen and Stan,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: at least since I school, if not even before that. However,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: it seems their lives went in different directions until many
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I stop at stop at stop, stop stop stop. That's
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Hollywood talk, you know. It's like on TV you see
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: one one star is out and they just plan another
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: one in there like you're not going to notice, and
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: they go, We're going in a different direction. David and
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I laugh about that all the time. What do you
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: mean they're going in a different direction? Ashley Wilcot Wait,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I need a shrink for this, doctor, Daniel Bober. I
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: met my husband David shortly after my fiancee was murdered. Okay,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: that was a long time ago, and we have lived
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: in separate cities for over, you know, fifteen years. He
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: went to grad school, I went to law school. That
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: a lot happened, but in my mind, love is love,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: and he stuck by me through all of that. I'm
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: not limbly different directions. Why do people say I'm going
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: in a different direction. That's b as I. You know,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: either you've got a lover or some other interest occurs
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: in your life. There's there's a break somewhere in that relationship.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: You don't just wander away from each other. I don't
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: buy that, doctor Bober. Well, you know, Nancy, it's a
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: fairly generic pop culture term. It really doesn't have any
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: meeting except for the fact that to one or one
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: of the two people or both people don't have the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: emotional maturity to make the relationship work. So that's really
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: what it's about. Yeah, you know, sometimes I look at David.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: He'll say some smart elect comment to me, and I think,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: oh m anyway, long story short. I am not going
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: to let him go in a different direction. I can
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: tell you that much. That is not gonna happen. Um
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: as you woke out, what do you make of that? Limley, Limley,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I'll circle back to you. Different direction? Okay, what about
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: an Ash? Yeah, I don't think. I don't think you
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: go different directions. I think exactly like you're saying. I
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: think that somebody chooses makes the choice to have a
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: fair juice, something to bury or something they shouldn't you
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: don't just go different directions. I completely agree with you
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and John Limley. You know, I'm gonna go online and
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: check your reporter credentials. No offense. You know people say
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: no offense right before they say something offensive. Okay, because
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: what you're leaving out is the big gap. I got
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Jackie Howard telling me, who knows about everybody's relationship, that
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: these two broke up in high school and they only
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: got back together in twenty twelve, twenty fourteen, right, and
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: that is when they got married. Yeah, did you leave
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that out? Limby? They haven't been together and all board
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: with each other since high school. That was my different director. Limley,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: are you even in a relationship? I'm married? Okay, so
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: you're married. Well, I hope your spouse is not going
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: in a different direction. That's a huge big deal. Doctor
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Daniel Bober again a shrink. And if you can't answer this,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I met Ashley Wilcott Ken. There's a big difference. And
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: you've known them since high school and you broke up
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: in high school and you get back together in twenty fourteen,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: that's a very different relationship. I agree, Nancy, because I mean,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: let's put it out there. You're a very different person
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: in high school than you are. It's a different day run.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: So I think getting back together probably says something about
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the strength of the release. Oh please, doctor Bober, you're
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: really putting perfume on the pig. What it means is
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: you're not bored yet. Okay. David sometimes looks at me goes,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: are you tired of me? And I'm go, I've been
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: tired of you since nineteen seventy nine, and okay, that's
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: it's a show. And I don't mean it because I'm not.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not. But Ashi Wilcot, that's a big difference. Okay,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: everybody laugh, But actually the truth is and our relationship,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've been with David for like maybe
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: two or three years, and we've really been together a
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: long time. But I do like to say that to
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: him to keep him on his toes. Ashie Wilcot, there's
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: a big difference in you've been dating since high school
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and then you just reunite it in twenty fourteen. Could
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: you explain that to Bober place. I don't know my
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: reason because we all know a lot of people that
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I hear from that I know personally who have been
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: together since high school. For a very long time because
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I am older. They do say that you grow up together,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and so that can have negative or positive consequences. But
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: it's a whole different thing, you know, a personal lot differently,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: when you've been married for a long time together since
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: high school, then when you go and live your life
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and come back together later in life, will you go
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to doctor Katherine Maloney who is joining US Deputy Chief
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Medical Examiner out of Buffalo, Doctor Maloney, how can you
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: look at let's just say ahead injury and determine where
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the killer was at the time of the shooting, what
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: position they were, and explain if you could trajectory path.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: So the trajectory path is the path that the bullet
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: takes through the body. So you can tell if the
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: bullets traveled well, you know, kind of as it enters
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: a body, does it go up or down or right
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: or left? And is it going back to front or
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: front to back, And obviously that will give you an
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: idea of perhaps the location of the gun in relationship
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: to the person that has been shot, and so that
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: can give you a sense of perhaps how the two
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: people were in relation to one another, Like was one
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: of them was a person who shot the gun. Was
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: it somehow lower or was it higher? The tricky thing
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: about trajectories you have to keep in mind that both
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: people might be moving, so the person who shot could
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: be leaning forward or leaning backward, and that could make
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: a gunshot won't appear to be going up or going down,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: when in fact it's really more of a straight on shot.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: So it actually can be pretty tricky to get an
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: exact idea of how people were facing each other, but
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: it can kind of give you a general sense of
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: the relationship of two people when one shoots another. Crime
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace jointing mean John Cardillo, former NYPD.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: What about the other evidence found at the home, specifically
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: this high school principles shirt. Well that you know, when
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: you put the totality of the evidence together Nancy and
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the fact pattern, it all adds up in my opinion,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: if I were an arresting investigator to probable cause. So
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: you've got forensic evidence on the shirt, You've got a
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: gun fired in the home, and like you mentioned, a
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: gun going off in an enclosed space. I don't care
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: if it's a tiny, little twenty two long rifle is
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: going to be loud. It's going to be deafening. You're
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: not sleeping through that. This case appears to involve a
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: common defensive or duty handgun round, which is going to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: be incredibly loud in an enclosed space like a home,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: so you're going to know a gunman off. Now, in
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: most jurisdictions, let's take the murder aspect out of it.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: If you have an accidental discharge of a firearm in
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: your home, you're to notify law enforcement. So that alone
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: would give the police reason constitutional reasons to investigate further.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Now you find the wife's body, and as others noted,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: there might not have been blood around the body, no
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: firearm there. Now you're looking at a homicide, no vehicle
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: that brought her there, other means of conveyance, the shirt.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: With the evidence, now you've got more than enough probable
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: cause to make an arrest. I would suspect that when
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: police questioned him. It's timeline, And you know this is
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: a prosecutor, and as investigators, we know the timeline means
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: everything as through the credibility of the assertions that the
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: suspect would make. And in this case, it appears when
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: you combine all that evidence with this guy's narrative of
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: his timeline. The fact pattern led the investigators to one place,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: and that was to arrest him for murder. To John Limley,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: investigative reporter, you hear John Cardillo talking about forensic evidence,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: evidence evidence on the shirt. It's blood. It's blood, Limley,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: That's what's on his shirt. Lane. Right as Stan is
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: describing his wife to the officers standing there, they can't
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: help but notice there's a big red stain on his shirt.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: And Stan says it's his own blood, that this is
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: something that happens often because he's on blood thinners. In
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the police report, I see that the cops noted the
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: high school principal had a red stain on the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of his shirt as he was speaking to them. I mean,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: you're talking to the cops and you have blood on
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: your shirt, and then he tells the cops according to
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: this police report, I'm looking at that he was on
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: blood thinners and the blood must have been his and
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the shirt was old. Okay, Ashley Wilcott. That's not hanging
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: together for me, not at all. He didn't know where
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: it came from, but it'sten on blood cinners. Listen, if
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: you had blood stains on your shirt, I would suggest
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: most people are going to know exactly why, what it's from,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: when it happened. That's not an everyday occurrent. Well, not
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: only that, what can you tell me, John Limley, investigative
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: reporter joining us about the family cars and the flower pots. Yeah,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: not only do things not look right inside the house,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: they don't look right outside either. There was damage to
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: both of the couple's vehicles. There were broken flower pots,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: and a wheelbarrow. Officers said that after they started putting
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: all this together, connecting the dots, it just looked like
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: someone attempting to clean up the scene of some sort
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: of incident, maybe a murder. Take a listen to our friend,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Danielle Sata a Mount Pleasants wcb D depending charges against
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Jaborrow include murder, obstruction of justice, and weapon violations. Who
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: was on Tuesday night where he told police that his
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: wife was missing. Investigators responded to a rural area near
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: by their forest in Dorchester County last night. They found
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the body of Karen Yarboro in a wooded area. In
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: the police report I obtained today, Somerville police say they
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: respond to the couple's Warring Street home yesterday. According to
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: the reports, Dan Yarborough told authorities his wife was missing
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: since Monday. To Ashley Wilcott, what do you make on
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the flower pots and the car well again, so remember
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: this is the secondary crime scene. You have where the
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: body was found as the primary. This is the secondary
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: And so during the course of an investigation, obviously law
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: enforcement is going that they have to look at all
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: of the evidence. Everything they see document and when you
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: take all of these things together, talk about circumstantial. The
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: flowerpot in and of itself, big deal. The car in
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: and of itself, big deal. But when you put these
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: things together along with the blood on the shirt, I
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: don't remember I'm on blood sinners, don't not out there,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: it's fine. And a board on the floor and next
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to a hole on the floor in the house where
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the husband says, I don't even have a gun. I
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: don't know where this came from. You start looking at
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: all of these things together and you can start to
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: connect the dot. Well another issue to you, doctor Daniel Bober,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: physics psychiatrist. To me, it's like the riding on the wall.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: There's also the issue of a wheel barrow found in
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the front of the couple's home. I'd be very curious
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: to find out if the cars park in front of
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: the home, like in a driveway, which I think that
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: they do, because it's very clear to me, Bober that
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: she is shot upstairs in the bedroom, that he then
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: drags her down, drags her to the front door, puts
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: her body in a wheelbarrow, and then in getting the
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: wheelbarrow with the body in it to the car, he
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: knocks over the flower pots. It's very obvious to me
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: what happened. Yeah, Nancy, I mean it's pretty much like
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: a roadmap. I mean, you've got you've got the bullet
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: in the bedroom, you've got the blood on the T shirt,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: you've got the flower pots that were knocked over. I mean,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: he pretty much did everything but announced himself. It's, uh,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: it's pretty straightforward. It seems that way. Anyway. Let's take
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: a listen one more time to that nine one one
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: call summer of nine one one was like a hair emergency.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I find my wife. You're trying to find your wife. Yeah,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I save and you got here her. Do you know
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: what directions she usually walks in? I know exactly. I
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: rode the whole area. You're hearing him talking, but surprisingly
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: to Ashley Walcott that call was not made until the
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: following morning. Is that correct, John Emley? That is correct.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: It was at least twelve hours later, So the whole
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: night he doesn't notice she's gone. Ashley again, So I
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: stand by he wouldn't have gone to sleep when she
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: left in the dark depressed to go take a walk. However,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: even if he went to sleep I would suggest that
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: he would have woken up at some point. I do
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: this all the time, and you know my husband. If
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: my husband's downstairs watching TV, falls asleep in front of
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the TV. I noticed in the middle of the night, Hey,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: there's nobody next to me. I'm going to go down
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: and check. I'm gonna see where he is. Is everything good?
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I think that's normal human Well maybe not normal, but
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I do think that's human nature. So I cannot imagine
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: that it's plausible that he slept all night and woke
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: up and he still sounds sleepy or something and then says, though,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I've better call because she's not here. It doesn't make
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: good logical sense to me. Well, also, your husband is
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: about six to four, and he's got away in a
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: at least two twenty five, so it would really be
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: hard to miss him. Am I right about that? Oh?
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: You're right, he's actually sixty seven. And I won't come
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: in on the weight, Okay, I knew it was up there. Yeah,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: it'd be hard, it'd be hard not to notice he's missing. Okay.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Just nothing is fitting together for me in this case.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: In another aspect of it, Dodtor Catherine Maloney, I'm not
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: going to ask you how many autopsies you have performed,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: and I guess you and I have probably seen the
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: gamut of dope killings, bar FIGHTSS car accidents. But how
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: many times, doctor Maloney, have you seen and educated, mild
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: mannered high school principle involved with the brutal murder of
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: his wife. Well, I'm not sure specifically a high school principle,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: but I mean, do we do see a fair number
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: of domestic disturbances. I guess our domestics is what we
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: call them. When usually the husband kills the wife or
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the boyfriend kills the girlfriend. Unfortunately, it's really not that uncommon.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Sometimes there's a history of domestic violence, or neighbors will
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: say they fought a lot, but sometimes there's just no
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: history at all, and it's entirely unclear what caused one
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: spouse to snap and kill the other one. But it
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: does happen, unfortunately. And to doctor Daniel Bober, forensic psychiatrist,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: everything she just said is right. That there are a
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: lot of domestic homicides. And typically, however, in domestic homicides,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: they're very awful, will be prior domestic abuse reports. The
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: family or the friends or the co workers will know
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: about domestic abuse. Neighbors may have heard arguments in the past,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: not so in this case. And often in domestic homicides,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: the man, which is typically the killer, not always has
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: a reputation for I got a rage problem, or he's
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: a control free or he's will fly off the handle
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: very easily. Yeah, not the case at all with James Yarboro.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: It is very odd, Nancy. Usually, like you said, there
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: is an escalation, a crescendo where generally the man will
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: up the ante and in this case it seems to
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: have occurred strictly in isolation, which is unusual. We are
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: talking about the murder a beautiful bomb. Karen Yarborough a
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: business executive as well. Take a listen to this. Yarborough.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: In court today a judge denied bond for his murder
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: charge but did issue a fifty thousand dollar bond for
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: a weapons charge and twenty five thousand for obstruction of justice.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: We all have our lives and we don't see what
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: goes on behind closed doors. The stigma is there and
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have to carry it the rest of their lives.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Police say they found a bullet in Yarborough's bedroom on
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Tuesday and blood on his shirt, but ultimately they found
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Karen Yarborough's body in a rural Dorchester County. All kind
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: of shaking our heads and we feel bad for what's happened.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: And you know, Karen was a sweet, just beautiful woman.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: She really was. And tonight, Deputy say Stan Yarborough isn't.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: The Dorchester County Detention Center is expected to go before
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: a judge on December sixteen. That was w civ's Brodie
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Heart talking with a long time friend of the family,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Kin Bowman. And right now I'm looking at a photo
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: of their home and what strikes me about it is
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: it's so well kept and it's got decorations, seasonal decorations
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: all around the home. There is a flag of some sort. Oh,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: it looks like a Clemson flag out front. You can
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: tell It's been decorated and lovingly cared for. There's a
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: rose garden edging one side of it, and in a
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: beautiful residential area. All the homes are very quaint looking,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: and it goes to show that you never know what
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: is happening behind closed doors. People show you the facade
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: they want you to see, and not really what is
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: lurking beneath. We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace crime story,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,