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Special Episode with Corey Walton · United We Scan

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Just a reminder, everybody in the audience, the views
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expressed on this podcast are of the presenters and the
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presenters only and do not represent the views, opinions or
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strategies of the United States Postal Service, the National
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Rural Letter Carriers Association or the National
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Association of Letter Carriers. Hey, welcome back everybody.
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Bonus episode This week we have Mr. Corey Walton from Aid
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Arbitration joining Josh and James and myself.
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How are you this evening, Corey? I'm doing quite well.
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I'm glad to be here finally. It's it's been quite a chore
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getting on here, hadn't it? It it definitely has it.
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Definitely. Has.
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Like James said earlier, he says why do you, why did you only
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give me 10 minutes notice? Because I said you're right, you
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I called you, you said give me 10 minutes.
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I said because I just found out for a fact for a fact 10 minutes
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ago. Right he.
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Was like, am am I the last to find out?
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I'm like, well, I had to make sure Kristen was available
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because she does a recording most of the time.
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Yep. I ran right down, got the
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computer booted up and said we're doing this, let's go.
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But no, it it's great to finally be able to connect with you,
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Corey. I know myself, James, Josh, and
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several of our listeners also listen to you on the regular.
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And let me tell you from the beginning of listening to you,
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when I was still a local steward at the time, I learned a lot
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more from you than I ever did any of my steward trainings from
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my own union. I appreciate you saying that.
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We've I've been through a couple of things.
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Oh yeah. It's amazing to listen to you
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because to hear the things that you're going through.
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And then maybe a few months down the road, it turns right over
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and comes right to the rural side.
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So they learn from you guys, give it to us, They learn from
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us and give it to you guys. Yeah, they definitely are
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creatures of habit. And so it's all about that
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money. It's all about that money.
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So they're going to abuse whichever craft they can.
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And unfortunately, we're the ones that make the money.
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Yeah, whoever rolls over first is the one that starts the
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process. That's right, go.
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Ahead Josh. I had a question for you Corey
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and I I know you've had held every position in the
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stewardship on your side, right. And on your side in the NALC the
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Stewart can initiate A grievance.
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So that gives you as the Stewart the opportunity to investigate
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for 14 days before you actually file on on our side.
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The grievant has to actually initiate it, which only leaves
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you that 10 day window from the time the grievance assigned to
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you having to meet. Yeah.
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Do you have any suggestions or Eddie Stewart's that we have
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listening to help make a benefit of this because of?
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The 10 of the 10 days. Of the 10 days versus 24 days.
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Yeah, yeah. So how does y'all's?
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Does y'all's request for information work about the same
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as ours? We put in request for
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information and then so y'all have this kind of the same
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thing, right? Yeah, we give them written
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request saying this. I'm looking for ABC and D.
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And have a reasonable amount of time to get you the information
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that you requested. I want you requested.
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You're officially on the clock. That goes with education.
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You know, if you know what you're dealing with.
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I know rule is a lot different as far as the city letter care
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craft. Both my parents are retired rule
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carriers and so I grew up with that.
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But how their route adjustments were done was a lot different
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than ours. And I don't know with y'all
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going through the same thing we do if that's changed or not.
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But you have to know y'all's contract and that way when a
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carrier comes to, you know exactly what you're going to
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request. You have those ready, you put
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that request in. While you're waiting on that
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information, you're already formulating what your
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contentions are going to be. Y'all's discipline is very much
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the same as ours. I imagine y'all don't do
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overtime, right? Y'all have overtime.
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No, we don't have an overtime list.
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We have release day work list. Right.
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Saying so. That's a lot different than us.
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Yeah, the only time we have overtime is the three weeks from
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the first Saturday in December and then three weeks after.
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So this year it ended, what, the 22nd Friday?
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The 22nd. And that's if you go over your
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evaluation for the week you get paid overtime.
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Right. But the one of our most of that
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is they have you know management has the right to send you home
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early or tell you not to come in on a day if you're going to be
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over, right, depending on how much you're going to be over,
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but they have to pay you for the for the evaluation.
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I like Article 8 is our overtime article.
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So that's one of our most contentious was so y'all don't
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have to deal with that, but at any time we're dealing with the
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grants procedure. It's all about education.
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You know, you've got to know your topic and once you get that
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information, request in when you're hustling to get that your
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contentions where you're going to go, then you're going to get
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this information, you're going to look at that.
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What else are we going to need to support our position?
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You know, when it gets an arbitration, it's all about the
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contention, it's all about the evidence.
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And so you know the only thing I can say about as far as 10 days,
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14 days, you got to make take advantage of every single bit.
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A lot of times where we have problems are stewards, are so
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anxious to get that grievance in that they don't take advantage
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of that full 14 days and they will put an information request,
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get that 8190, send that up no contention and leave that up to
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the formal step A I'm always an advocate of taking advantage of
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that full 14 days. Make sure that everything that
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you need you have and that way the formal aid doesn't have to
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do all of our work. Y'all have Step 2 right.
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Yeah. Yes, we.
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Have and then step three. Yeah, yeah, we got information,
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yeah, we got informal, formal B team arbitration.
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Y'all says step one, Step 2. And so, you know, I don't know
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if that was the question you asked, but it to me every single
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bit is about education. It it it was because it's if
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you're lucky the grievant will call you and tell you or you
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know catch in the office if you have a shot at local shop
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Stewart and say hey management's done, you know this is what
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management's done. So that gives you that week or
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two for them to finally fill out the 8191 which is our grievance
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step one form. Right.
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But if they don't, and they just fill out the grievance form and
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hand it to you, that starts your 10 day clock.
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Yeah. And so Minds was made of where?
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How? By the Grievant.
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The grievant has to have a discussion with management, say
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Mr. Walton. Last week I worked on Route 812
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and 3:00, but I only got paid for one and two and he says #
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sand. And I say, Mr. Walton, I need an
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8191 please, because I'm going to grieve that you didn't pay me
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for that day, whatever the situation is.
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Yep. I had no idea that that's how
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that happened. That's crazy.
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Yes, because we. When it has their informal
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conversation with management, if management, if they can work it
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out with management, they're great.
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If not then the grievant has to file the the the grievance
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saying management has to initial and date it on the date that it
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you know and then check you know say yes or no it was timely
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within the 14 days of the occurrence.
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I had no idea that. So that's nuts.
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And so because us we just go to the steward, you know, we said
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hey, they worked so and so yesterday I was supposed to work
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and then here we go. But y'all have to go up to the
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supervisor and initiate agreements.
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Yep, yes. Damn, that's crazy.
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These, this audience, are those the people that are listening.
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Yes, they are. Is fed up, is that Ron?
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Is that Ron speaking? That is, that is Ron.
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He's a friend of ours too. He's a friend of everybody's.
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I like that guy, man. He's got a he's got a great
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show. Oh, yes.
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So far the comment, the comments and there have been evening.
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Mr. Milton Union is in the House.
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I'm still trying to play catch up on the pod.
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Thanks for being here Corey. And then fed up says Corey.
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What's up, brother? Awesome episode with.
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I'm assuming that was supposed to be fed up, no?
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Work. Yeah, no Fed up.
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Ron just did an episode with Fed Hurt, which is a federal they
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deal with federal Adobe VCP. It was a really good episode.
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OK. I haven't heard that one yet.
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I don't see. These thank you, Ron says.
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Thank you. Hands together.
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Appreciate that. Lots more to come Fed up is
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great. Yay, this is awesome.
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About time. And they've been looking forward
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to you, Corey, that's for sure. I know we have a lot of our
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listeners listen to you as well. Ron says Corey is the godfather
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of this movement. I don't know about that, but
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we're trying to get some shit started.
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I know that I wish and I know that half your most of yours
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probably going to think I'm crazy, but I wish that the NELC
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would just swallow up the rural cares union and we all become a
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a huge union. I wish that we would have done
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that. I know that when my dad was a
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rural carrier he begged them to do that, to join in with NELC,
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but I wish they. Would or have to go outwardly?
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Y'all, y'all like your evaluated routes, right?
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Yeah, I like getting done. I like getting done in seven
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hours and getting paid for 9 and going home, yes.
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That's a great thing, my dad, my dad was like that when I first
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started. It was 1988 as a rule carrier.
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I started as a rule carrier and started with my dad and we work
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together and I'd have pulled my route down.
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I was leaving, he was coming back.
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That's how fast he was and so, but you know he'd be done with
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his route by 11:00, 11/30 and out here in Franklin, TN, but
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probably getting paid. Till three or four?
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Yeah, and my mom, she worked in Bellevue and so.
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But yeah, I worked with my dad for a little while as a rural
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care and then I moved over kind of just doing odd things.
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Clerk craft, janitorial craft. And then became ATE in 1992 and
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the rest was history. I was a senior character that.
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If you don't mind me asking, was there a reason you decided to
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leave the world craft? This is crazy.
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Well, what is the reason I should say?
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I had. I was married in 1990 and I'm
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since been divorced and but my we're engaged.
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At the time I was a royal carrier and my father-in-law at
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the time, he was my future father-in-law at the time he was
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in management and he was came in as the postmaster of Franklin.
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That's where I was. And so back then I don't know if
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y'all still do it this way, but you had to register and you had
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names on that register. That call in send me 10 names.
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Y'all still do it like that? No, not.
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Really. No.
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Yeah, the postmaster would call down to the register and said,
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hey, send me 10 names and I've got a, you know, 2 routes open.
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I need 10 names that interview those ten names and then they
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would two people would be selected.
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Well, I was already working there.
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I was doing Route 7. The guy's name was JC Fox and I
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was doing his route. His route was 120 miles long and
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it had no stops. It was all country.
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And so I was already doing the route and he called in to
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register. My name was at the very top and
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he did not hire me. He said he didn't want him to
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look like nepotism and my parents hated him ever since.
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So you were in? TRC at the time.
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I was ARCA, I believe is what they called it back then.
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Real care associate, right? What was it RC or T or TRC?
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Did you have to take a a week break?
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No, no. It was an RCA.
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He took my test and passed the test.
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Got the names. He he did not pick me.
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When he didn't pick me then I had to leave.
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That went over to the to the janitorial kind of clerk craft.
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But I worked at the jail from about 1990 to 96 and that was
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because he didn't select me and so I had to go work there at
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nights, was working at the post office during the day and did
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that for six years. All because he didn't pick me up
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that register. My name was the first one, so it
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wouldn't have been like he would have said nepotism because he
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wouldn't have to. But anyway, this is a Long story
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short, say that's the reason why I'm a city carer today.
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All right. Like I said, I was just curious
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and I know a lot of people probably be like at least from
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our listeners would be like if he had the best job delivering
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why would he give that up and. Go on.
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To the other side. Yeah, I loved it.
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I loved it. You know, I loved coming in.
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I drove my dad's station wagon, you know, I had to sit on the
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right hand side and drive with the left foot, you know, and
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steer. And he had a blue, blue station
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wagon. Yep, that's what I delivered
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with and out of. And The Judds thinking, the
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country music group, The Judds were on my route, had a huge
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farm out there. But I was way, way, way out in
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the sticks, man. Way out in the sticks.
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And but I loved it, 'cause you just turned the radio on is
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during the summer. It was fantastic.
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Just out there. It was peaceful and stuff.
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And yeah, he didn't hire me. So here I am.
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Yeah. Hey, you know, it, it, you know
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it. Things work out in weird ways.
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That's just. How it Yeah, here I am.
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Here I am starting to movement. Exactly.
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And and we're and we're kind of doing the same thing on the
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rural side and you know we're we're we're catching the heat
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from our national officers as well for doing it.
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As you know, the four of us lost were decertified as local
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stewards because of the podcast. I remember that.
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Yeah, I remember that. They've they've not done that
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for me yet. We've got three of us that are
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actually going to be running for national office this year and.
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What? Yeah.
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Myself going for vice president, James is going for Director of
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Stewart operations and Bill, who couldn't be with us because I
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believe he's still working, is going, running for president
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again. Well, that's fantastic.
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That's really good. Anything I can do to help you, I
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will. If you want to come on, I'll
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help you. I don't know how many people
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listen from the real care craft, but a lot I would.
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Say a lot. A lot.
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You know, I I don't hold back on my national leaders if you ever
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listen. Oh, yes, every, every.
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Monday I just. I just cannot tolerate the
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cowardice that's taken over our union man.
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I don't know how y'all's is, but I think we've talked a little
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bit about this. Before.
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But yeah, it's just, it's unbelievable, the cowardice
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that's overtaking my union. And I cannot stand it.
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I can't stand it. But so anyway, I just have a
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different way of vocalizing that.
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Oh, and. I appreciate it because.
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There's Go ahead, Josh. I listen and get all fired up on
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Mondays. Yeah, same thing.
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I'll be out on my route and you'll be saying something and
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it reflects to what we're going through on the rural side.
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And I'll be like, yes, Amen, absolutely.
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Well, that's that's great. A lot of things can't take the
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the language, but you know when you get fired up, Hell, just you
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know how it is. Oh, yes.
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We do. For for anyone in the audience,
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if you had a question, I would say put the question in the chat
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now because Corey does have the he took time out of his busy
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schedule to join us this evening.
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He has things he has to get back to this evening before he goes
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to bed, so. Yeah, I can answer some
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questions though if they want to ask him.
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I'll do the best I can, but yeah, I know we've been trying
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to get on here for a while and my schedule is crazy and.
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We completely understand that we're all pretty flexible, so.
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Yeah, you know, for the most part, you're.
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Flexible And it's, you know and it's or if you were available
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Kristen for whatever reason might not be available.
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Yeah. So we could have you come on,
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but without Kristen to be able to actually record it, and
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without enough advance notice, we have someone else that does
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recording and editing for us other than Kristen, which helps.
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Right, right. So we just kind of all scramble
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to get on here at the same time. Oh yeah.
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Yeah. I got you.
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Let me ask this question to you, Corey, as somebody who formerly
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was a rural carrier but is a city carrier.
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Looking at the rural craft from the outside, what do you see as
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the biggest issue pertaining to rural carriers today?
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I think it's y'all's leadership, your representation, you know,
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that's that's kind of the thing that city carriers always talk
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about is the lack of, I don't know how you'd put it, it goes
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all the way back to when my dad was a rural carrier, you know,
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it's it's that even even your arbitration process.
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You know, it's dysfunctional at best.
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And I just think that, you know, with y'all saying that y'all
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going to have some people run for national leadership.
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I think it starts there. Y'all are kind of the not rural
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carriers because you know, I love rural carriers like I love
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city carriers. To me you're you're all family,
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but it's laughable Y'all's representation and so that's the
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difference. I think the NLC even though you
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know I talk about our leadership here are are filled with cowards
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and I do believe that I mean we are notorious for for fighting
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and I think that's the difference between us.
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You know I may disagree with that but you know I I think that
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it's kind of the the stigma is that rural carriers unions
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probably the weakest of all the unions in the in the Postal
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Service. And I I think that y'all need to
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get some, you know, some fire breathers up there that that
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changed that narrative and sounds like you're going to do
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that if that answers your question.
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Few more few more comments every episode.
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I listen to Corey since last May.
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Definitely lots of useful info. Started with all the hip
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training. Nailed our office for falsify
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falsification. Today they made us watch and do
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our videos this year. Loli was first.
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Did y'all have an issue with your hip training as well?
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Last year, Well, yes, I. Noticed that and this year as of
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yet they have not entered anything in the in Hero, but
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last year you know they they actually I filed on it as a
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class action for the whole city and you know for the whole
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installation not just my station and we got that they would
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perform the training by a certain date or all carriers
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would get a payout of and I forget what it was $25 or so.
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Well, that that's still good though.
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That's still good. I just didn't know how but.
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The thing is, the last, the last day on the, you know, for the
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settlement was the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.
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And they had us all standing there that Wednesday morning
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watching these videos with ATV plugged into the computer.
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That sounds about right. All right.
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We do have one question I I'm. Going to go ahead.
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Well I was, I was getting to that frequency.
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Also has a had had a question? So.
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In. Go ahead.
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I got it in our. Office say I was going to read.
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I was going to read giraffe's comment and then go to that.
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OK, go ahead. In 30 minutes, I'm 30 minutes
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away from the office. That Mister Gates passed away in
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last in the heat. So that particular episode hit
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me. Yeah, and that was a tough one
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there. Here, here's the question.
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In our office, a rural ox is divided to help the three city
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routes make their eight hours. How much of that is normal on
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the City side? We should be grieving that.
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Both sides should. Be grieving that.
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Absolutely. That that's so rampant right now
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across this country where cities doing rural rural's doing city
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because they refuse to properly staff this place and we help
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them out when we don't grieve that.
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You know if you started busting an ass on that where these
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grievances where these monetary payouts get to to a certain
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point they're going to staff these place properly.
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What incentive do they have to staff these places properly if
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they can just make rural go do city city go do rural.
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You know I've had episode after episode about city doing rural
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work that's a grievance and a lot of these places don't even
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touch it but it just, you know that don't even sound right.
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You know we we split a rural aux up so city have 8 hours that
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that doesn't make sense. You know, and so those things
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should be grieved. But yeah, we we we bail them out
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of properly staffing these places when we don't do that to
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me all. Right, here's a really good one.
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Well, Frequency responded that it's been grieved and grieved
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and yeah, that will have to come down to a non compliance
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grieving grieve. Yeah, that's that.
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You're going to have to ask. I don't know how.
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How well do y'all escalate y'all's remedies?
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Do y'all have good payouts or do y'all?
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Is that something? Y'all.
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We we have a a national steward system that likes to settle for
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language. See that right there, just
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that's devastating. You know we.
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Have this the same issue as you guys have with the.
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Don't do it again, shall not. Yeah, God.
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Will comply please. Yeah, yeah.
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Will comply. Yeah, we implore you to stop.
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But they and that's solely the Postal Service telling both
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telling all the parties we will no longer do a cease and says
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and every single one of them flinched and that's all that is.
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I know that for a fact. Yeah, here's a really good one
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here. Is there a way, in your opinion,
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to bring all the crafts together who do a nationwide protest or
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rally to really inform the public the challenges that the
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postal workers face on a daily basis?
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You have to say your leadership and ours will not do it, that
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they will tell you they're not going to do it.
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They think that it does nothing. It does no good.
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That's what our leader has told us.
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You know, they talk about these nationwide rallies.
26:12
You know, they will tell you you don't get anything from that.
26:16
It's because they're too damn lazy to to get that going.
26:20
And I thought we should. When Brother Gates died, we
26:23
talked about that. I thought that we should be out
26:26
in the damn streets in force when that happened and to find
26:29
out, you know, when people talk about the hip training, well,
26:33
you don't need to tell me to be safe.
26:34
And you know I know to be safe. It's that's not what it's about.
26:38
The fact is they they falsified this training that they're
26:41
required to do. When our brother Gates passed
26:43
away, what they do, they came out and said, well, he had the
26:46
hip training, you know, so we did our part.
26:49
Well, that's a lie and that's the reason you should have been
26:51
in the streets. But unfortunately, our leaders,
26:54
I don't know about yours, but our leaders are dead set against
26:57
it and that's the reason it will never happen.
27:01
I. Would believe that ours would
27:03
be. Too, as a falsification was on
27:07
both sides of the fence. I don't, I don't even think,
27:12
except for, you know, the rural carriers that listen to your
27:14
podcast, I don't think anyone really did anything.
27:18
Yeah. In regards to grieving it.
27:21
Yeah, yeah. Well, they're already falsifying
27:24
ours already. So, you know, people are putting
27:27
up on social media. You know, here's mine been
27:30
falsified. I wasn't there.
27:32
So, you know, they didn't learn. But you know, when, when we let
27:34
them get away with stuff, why would you?
27:38
So Corey, here's some highlights because I went to our Southwest
27:42
Area Conference this past weekend, some highlights from
27:46
our President in his speech about what's coming to the
27:50
Postal Service. The first one is that the S&D CS
27:55
are really nice. You're going to have brand new
27:58
cases, you're going to have more relief carriers to cover routes,
28:02
you're going to have all these electric, new electric vehicles
28:05
to drive and stuff like that. The other side was you got to,
28:09
you got to read the Dejoy's 10 year plan for the Postal Service
28:13
because that's what's going to happen and we're going to become
28:17
the United States Parcel Service.
28:19
Basically you said we're going to become a parcel delivery
28:22
service. We're no longer going to be
28:23
delivering the mail. Right.
28:26
Well, I tell you what, with the volume we've had lately, I can
28:29
see that. I mean, we've had no mail.
28:31
I don't know what they're doing, but surely people just didn't
28:35
stop overnight using the Postal Service as far as mail.
28:38
But yeah, they've sold us on it. They've sold our leaders on it.
28:42
So there. And it may be the greatest thing
28:44
that's ever happened to the Postal Service and it may save
28:46
us and it's the best thing since sliced bread.
28:49
But I know that my carriers are having to drive an extra hour
28:52
now to work and I don't like that.
28:56
I don't like anything that negatively effects my people and
28:59
that does. But you know, we have no say.
29:02
So I guess we didn't have no push back against it, but I
29:06
guess that's the future. Well, and one of the other
29:09
things you were saying that came out in in SWAC James was for the
29:16
past two years we've had an MOU on and off that they've signed
29:21
saying that regular carriers can assist on a voluntary basis to
29:27
help on other routes or Sunday Amazon delivery.
29:35
And our President said that one of the things they want to try
29:38
and negotiate into our new contract, which will start in
29:42
the next couple weeks, assuming you guys wrap up or move it to
29:47
an arbitrator, is that he wants to get that written to the
29:52
contract. What's the likeliness that
29:57
management's going to just leave it at?
30:00
Are you going to volunteer if it's actually in the contract,
30:04
not an MOU? Is that a question or no?
30:12
Yeah, in your opinion. Yeah, I I'll say this, I think
30:19
that it's funny. I come on our side.
30:22
We're talking about our new contract, Article 8, which is
30:26
our overtime. They're going to revamp that,
30:29
and they're saying that they're going to start doing Article 8
30:32
differently. If you want to work on your day
30:33
off and don't want to work overtime the rest of the week,
30:36
that's how they're going to do it.
30:37
They didn't abide by it beforehand.
30:40
Oh wait, I don't care how many times you change Article 8,
30:43
they're not going to abide by it.
30:44
They didn't abide by it before. What makes you think they're
30:47
going to abide by it now? There's no incentive to abide by
30:50
any signed agreement. And so anytime y'all have that,
30:53
what's the incentive to abide by that?
30:56
And we've not, we don't have anything in place to make
31:00
management abide by any MOU to make them abide by anything.
31:05
So you know when you have a signed agreement that managers
31:08
don't care about your MO U is the same way.
31:14
Yeah, I I completely agree on. That that's you know I and you
31:23
know and that's the one thing with with the way our system
31:27
works is having our resolutions our our non binding resolutions
31:32
that go up to national and pass that's supposed to be our wish
31:34
list that we wish for them to negotiate for contracts.
31:38
Well, then they come out and say, you know, we had, I don't
31:41
know, however many hundreds of them, but we're only going to,
31:44
you know, 6 or 20 or 30. But here, this MOU we've had
31:49
out, off and on for the last two years, we want to put that in
31:52
there, Yeah. No.
31:57
Yeah, it's funny. It's funny because somebody did
32:00
put a resolution up for that at two National last year or this
32:04
past national and it failed and they're still going to try and
32:09
push it through even though the Craft and their delegation told
32:13
them not to. Yeah, but that sounds about
32:16
right. What do you think on do you
32:21
think your guys's contract negotiations may go into
32:24
arbitration? It's looking like that.
32:28
I don't know. I don't know what's going on
32:32
with that. I mean, that's the big question
32:34
that everybody always raises on social media.
32:37
You know, what's up with the contract?
32:39
Our president refuses to tell the truth, so we don't know
32:42
what's going on. They said they had an
32:44
arbitrator. You know, ours, you have 3
32:46
arbitrators, one's ours, one's the postal services, and then
32:50
you have a neutral arbitrator. And it's ultimately his
32:52
decision, his or her decision. And so we've been waiting all
32:56
this time for an arbitrator. We were told weeks ago we have
33:00
an arbitrator selected now. It's supposed to come out in a
33:03
couple of weeks, but this has been going on for months and
33:06
months. So to tell you the truth, I have
33:09
no idea what's going on with it. It could, you know, they could
33:13
have a tentative agreement, come down here any day now, but it's
33:17
looking like it's going to arbitration.
33:20
They keep saying the right things.
33:22
I just don't believe anybody. And so I have no idea what's
33:26
going on with the contract, contract negotiations.
33:30
You know, you have those that those puppets that I always talk
33:33
about, you know, it's stalled because the Postal Service with
33:37
their money, well, obviously that's what that's the biggest
33:40
going to be. The biggest hiccup every time
33:42
you go to, you know, when you talk about collective bargaining
33:45
is money. And so you get all these other
33:48
things out of the way, you make agreements on all these other
33:52
things and you say we cannot agree to the financial package
33:57
and so we'll go to arbitration. Shouldn't take you over a year
34:02
to do that. And that's where we're at.
34:04
You know, we're already over a year.
34:06
People are like, well, you know, you just need to be patient.
34:08
I don't want to be patient. You know, they always tell us
34:11
that when we always, when the agreement's signed, they're
34:14
already working on the next one. And why is it taking over a
34:17
year? We hadn't gone to arbitration
34:21
yet. And so it's just frustrating.
34:23
The members are frustrated and our president is so dishonest.
34:28
I have no idea. You know, when he says
34:30
something, I I take that with a grain of salt.
34:34
And so I have no idea. To tell you the truth, I should
34:37
just said that right at the beginning and I have no idea.
34:41
OK. I got one more really good
34:42
question here. Being a city carrier, how do you
34:46
deal with the micromanagement? We're, we know as real carriers
34:50
are beginning to face the same type of scrutiny for every
34:52
little thing that we are doing. And I can't stand it.
34:55
I hate being treated like I'm a liar or a criminal just for
34:58
doing my job. Yeah.
35:02
The good thing about my station is we don't have to deal with
35:04
that knock on wood. It's a it's a very tenured
35:08
station. So they kind of stay away from
35:10
that. They don't come in here with a
35:12
lot of bullshit on our station. The biggest thing you can do is
35:17
understand what's Y'all's handbook?
35:20
Ours is M41 handbook. What is yours?
35:22
38 the M38. M38, get that, get that and read
35:29
it. And I would read it and read it
35:31
and read it. When I first became a shop
35:33
steward in 2006, I'd never seen the J Cam.
35:37
The M39, which is management. The M41, which is ours, had
35:41
never seen any of. And that was why, you know, I
35:44
had kind of default with myself about being a steward because I
35:49
was like, you know, I'm going to let people down.
35:52
But every break I read the M 41. At lunch I read the M41.
35:58
When I got home I read the M41 and I understood my office
36:02
duties, I understood my street duties, I understood my
36:07
reporting requirements if I'm going to request overtime, which
36:10
I don't have to do. But all those things I
36:12
understood and so I understood those for all my people.
36:16
So everybody in my station was was protected because I
36:19
understood what they could and could not do.
36:23
And so when they came in there and tried to micromanage all
36:26
those years ago, way back when, you know, we would grieve that
36:32
and and stop it. But you know, you see more and
36:35
more of it. Now we have these, the T wrap.
36:38
I'm sure y'all heard me talk about that.
36:39
If y'all been on any of these episodes, the new ride
36:43
adjustment process has brought all of that roaring back.
36:46
All this micromanagement, the hour office time, getting out of
36:50
the office in an hour, 22 minute load times, all these things are
36:55
micromanaging and so stationary events that's all that.
36:59
But it's all about knowing your rights, your things that you're
37:04
required to do in the office you're not required to do.
37:07
You know 22 month at load time is something that's made-up.
37:11
Stationary events are something they can't do.
37:12
You know that our office time is not contractual.
37:15
So I would just get that M38 and I would study it and I would
37:20
study that off with Y'all's office function, St. function,
37:24
your office duties, AM office duties and all that stuff right
37:27
there. That's that's the biggest thing.
37:30
Quick correction, the M38 is actually the management's guide
37:34
to managing role carriers, but our.
37:37
Actual. Six O 3 yeah, the PO6O3 is what
37:41
we would have to do. But yeah, the M38's not a bad
37:43
read either. You know, I would always.
37:46
Know management's looking for is in the P then the M38 and what
37:51
your duties and responsibilities are is in the PO6O3.
37:55
So make sure you understand those and then when you get to
37:58
want even know the contract is the EL9O2 is our contract.
38:04
OK, well that's what I would do. I know it sounds boring, but you
38:09
know I that's what I did, and M39 is theirs.
38:13
I studied that and studied that until I memorized it, and that
38:17
way I knew theirs better than I do my then they know theirs and
38:22
I knew M41 better than they knew it.
38:24
So. Now Corey, with the you said the
38:27
M31 is the the handbook right the M. 41 M 41 is ours, M39 is
38:35
theirs on my side all. Right.
38:38
Have they like for us the PO6O3, which is our the rule carrier
38:42
handbook, basically what you're supposed to do in a day, yes.
38:47
With the. With the new rec system where
38:50
everything's tracked digitally or on a report, they started
38:57
saying, well, certain parts of that are no longer valid, but
39:01
they haven't updated it with the T Rep Have they tried saying
39:05
that on your side or no? No, no, they they have these
39:10
memos that they go by. That's where all our abuse comes
39:14
from is, are these. And so nothing else has changed
39:18
really, just these memos that came out with these parameters
39:21
and they're taking those, you know, things and and shoving
39:24
them down our throat. But nothing's really changed as
39:28
far as anything else. That's what you're asking.
39:31
OK, that's kind of what I was asking.
39:35
Yeah, 'cause there's certain tribe, what's the word, not
39:42
parameters like dimensions for a parcel, for example, which fell
39:49
under the old mail count guidelines.
39:52
They're saying, well no, that doesn't count.
39:54
You know, you have to, you know that doesn't go anymore now that
39:58
we're using Rex. But they haven't updated the the
40:04
PO60 3AS of yet. To.
40:09
Show that none of that claims. As of yet, according to our
40:13
Director of Labor Relations, they're still in negotiations on
40:17
what an obvious parcel is. We've never had to deal with
40:22
that. Just we know we have Spurs
40:26
chunks with a column, you know, things that are stuck in the
40:29
case, you know, if it's smaller than the shoe box, but I'm not
40:33
going to stick something smaller than the shoe box, you know, I'm
40:35
not going to stick something like that in my case.
40:38
But so though you know, we have issues with that.
40:40
But no, we never, we never really had to deal with stuff
40:43
like that. I remember my mother, when she
40:45
would do rule counts, talking about what you're talking about
40:49
right there. The the box, you know, the size
40:51
of the parcel, you know how that counts for you and stuff like
40:54
that. Like for example the little
40:57
white bags with the medicine in it where you have the bio
41:00
medicine in it. Oh yeah.
41:03
So something like that. For example, under the old count
41:06
system, if you could case it if it would fit into the case in a
41:13
one inch separation, which right actually says we say two
41:18
addresses in a slot per slot, but it's a 2 inch slot has two
41:23
addresses in it is what it actually calls for.
41:28
Most people have enough dividers to divide each individual slot
41:31
to that one inch slot without affecting the male.
41:39
It becomes a flat and then if it's over a certain length,
41:45
width, height, or girth then it becomes a parcel.
41:52
We technically don't have the term spur.
41:56
You know anything where the bar code is considered a parcel
42:00
under the new RX. Oh really?
42:02
Yeah, anything with a bar code. And that's where the debate on
42:05
the parcel size comes from because we have what's called
42:08
now an unscannable parcel. So, I mean, I have quite a few
42:13
churches on my route and so they'll get boxes of books that
42:17
are metered mail. And you know that to me that I
42:22
want credit for delivering that parcel.
42:24
So I'm going to enter in it as an unscannable parcel.
42:26
Well, now that's the huge debate on is what size does it have to
42:30
be to be considered a parcel. And we've got management down to
42:33
if you believe it's unscalable parcel, then you need to show
42:36
that to us first so we can approve whether or not that's a
42:39
parcel for you. So if y'all had a priority
42:45
envelope for the bar code, they're saying that's a parcel.
42:49
Yep. And it'd be credited to us on
42:51
where we delivered it. So it would be a small parcel
42:57
which gives you minimal credit if you scan it into the mail in
43:01
interact mailbox, medium size if it's in a part in a parcel
43:06
Walker, or a large which will now include walking distance
43:14
from your park point to dismount to the front door and back.
43:21
And also mileage from your mailbox to your park point.
43:26
Out of route mileage. Out of route mileage.
43:29
It's actually time, yeah. This whole Rec system is really
43:35
it is. Convoluted.
43:37
It's convoluted. And if management if management
43:40
had kept its grubby hands out of it and our leadership didn't
43:43
roll over on it, it would probably be a good evaluation
43:47
system. If management had trained
43:48
everybody, like their contract tells us, the management had to
43:51
train us on changes to our works processes and everybody knew
43:56
what they were doing. It'd be a great system, but
43:59
management can't keep their grubby hands on it.
44:01
Management didn't want to train people beyond the six scans.
44:05
You clock in your load truck and load truck departure route,
44:09
return to DU and clock out. Those were the scans that
44:12
management trained us on and that was it.
44:14
Everything else we had to learn, either through our podcast or
44:18
through word of mouth from other carriers.
44:22
Did did all that stuff get fixed with?
44:25
Y'alls I remember y'all was in a in a big way, a mess back in the
44:31
day with with the route counts. The new route counts how they
44:34
came in and screwed y'all so bad.
44:35
Oh no. It is, it's.
44:37
Still not fixed there. There's really there's still
44:41
issues. One of the I think the big
44:42
issues, well they were when they were wanting to do our coverage
44:45
factor, they if you had CBUS, I I have several CBUS on my route.
44:51
If if you didn't have mail for that first box and that CBU, or
44:55
that first box and that CBU was inactive, you didn't get
44:58
coverage at all for that CBU. I just remember what a mess that
45:04
was back then. Matter of fact, I think even I
45:07
think I had an episode where I talked about it.
45:09
Yeah, it it's it's better, but it's a whole new mess.
45:14
Yeah, because we can't. Everything is.
45:19
It's data-driven, so it's off of the end of run report or radar
45:23
report, which is basically end of run with a few other things
45:29
included on it, which is your bundled flats.
45:34
But the problem with bundled flats is People magazine, for
45:38
example, They'll give the post office a listing of how many
45:47
magazines or are in the bundle for each route.
45:51
But between them, printing, packaging and shipping and then
45:57
getting that report together and then sending it to the post
46:01
office could be anywhere from 2 to 14 days delayed from when you
46:06
actually receive it. Yeah, it.
46:11
Yeah. I mean some aspects have
46:13
improved, others are still just as disastrous.
46:16
I mean when you've got these these far out rural routes that
46:19
have two different zip codes that we call parent child
46:23
routes, they don't know how what is going on with because nobody
46:29
can answer it. I mean it's yeah, yeah, it it's
46:34
awful. Well, when you have, when?
46:37
You have your president telling you that rural carriers were
46:41
getting off way too early, so they decided to up the values
46:44
that that you have to do. Like we have to do 16 more
46:48
letter verifications than ADPS machine.
46:51
So basically, our president told the Rural Craft that rural
46:55
carriers have had it too good for too long for somebody who
46:59
hasn't been on his route in over 17 years.
47:01
Right. That's usually how that works.
47:03
Of course. Ours, our president wasn't on
47:06
the floor for 17 months I don't think.
47:08
And then he became went up there to national.
47:10
So kind of the exact opposite he he wasn't down here long enough
47:15
to understand anything. And so that's the reason he
47:18
makes terrible decisions. But I think they pushed both of
47:22
these route evaluation processes too fast.
47:26
You know you had these memos and then here we're into it.
47:28
And you know our union didn't prepare us for it.
47:32
Sounds like y'all didn't prepare you you for it and it just
47:36
turned into a shit show on both sides like ours is a complete
47:39
shit show as far as T rap and. With you guys, they kind of just
47:45
threw it on you. Yeah.
47:48
It's like, here's these memos, This is how it's going to be now
47:51
with us. They knew what was coming.
47:56
We went to arbitration. What was that, 2012?
47:59
Yeah, and the arbitrator gave it to us and it was a team of three
48:10
main impact engineers, one from the post office, one from the
48:17
union and the two, those two engineers picked the third one
48:21
to work with to create the rec system.
48:25
And then they wanted it to be implemented by 2015 and it
48:30
didn't actually finally get implemented until 20/22.
48:33
And they still hadn't worked any of the bugs out ten years, 10
48:38
years in the making. Because I remember when I when I
48:41
transferred offices and I, my office that I had started in was
48:45
a test study office, So I was familiar with it because we were
48:48
doing the scans, we were doing all the data stuff.
48:52
And when I was mentioning it to anybody in that office,
48:54
including the postmaster at the time, they looked at me like a
48:57
deer and headlights, like, what the heck are you talking about?
49:03
Yeah, both of those were ill prepared.
49:06
I know ours like they are. We had the memos come out.
49:10
They knew that they were working on this route adjustment
49:12
process. They knew that this was coming
49:14
down the Pike. We were left completely
49:17
clueless. You know, like you said, here's
49:20
the memos, and this is going to start next month.
49:23
And so carriers weren't prepared.
49:26
They started rushing in this training on these rate teams and
49:31
it was a disaster. And that's I know y'all heard me
49:34
bitch about, should have gotten ahead of that and and prepared
49:37
us for it, prepared the carriers for it.
49:42
But, and y'all, sounds like yours is worse than us.
49:45
You know, 'cause they came in and just rushed y'all.
49:48
And like the gentleman said, you know, you had the six scans
49:52
basically everybody knew about and just came in there and
49:56
throttled y'all as far as these routes.
49:59
Right. Well, and the six, those six
50:01
scans that you're required to do every day are clock in and clock
50:06
out, start load, end load, which it's not the same as the load
50:12
truck because that actually is a, it's a stopwatch.
50:17
So from the time, as soon as I have everything pulled down and
50:19
in my Gurney or conveyance, I hit start load and roll it out
50:24
to my vehicle, load my vehicle, bring the conveyance back in and
50:28
put it wherever I'm supposed to leave it and end load.
50:33
And that gives we get actual time for that.
50:36
And even with the old count system, there was a what was it,
50:40
14 or 15 minute it and that wasn't the limit.
50:44
But anything over that had to have a justification.
50:48
So if you had a 17 minute load time, they could your
50:53
justification be two trips, you had two full Gurney's that day.
51:00
But you know the same is with this 22 minutes on your side.
51:06
It's an average of about what it takes, you know it takes what it
51:11
takes, but that's about that's the higher end of the average
51:17
and that's probably where they came up with that number.
51:19
They say all right it takes on average 15 to 20 you know or 18
51:26
to 25 minutes we'll say 22 and then we have when we got.
51:35
Then when you come back you have to hit return to do to duty unit
51:39
or delivery unit which again starts a stopwatch.
51:44
And at times from that point until you either go switch to
51:49
what's called PM casing for if they distributed mail for the
51:55
next day like sometimes like the Advos or circulars or you know
52:01
something that came in late. If you're going to if you have
52:05
permission to case them in the evening instead of having to
52:07
wait till the next morning that stop the stopwatch and then you
52:12
your your 6th was the clock out but that doesn't count the other
52:18
18 possibles for example authorized dismount at ACBU.
52:25
Anywhere we, you know business that you have to go out and
52:27
bring the mail in. If you have, you have you
52:31
automatically get credit for one a day to that location to your
52:35
CBU. But let's say I have so much
52:37
mail and parcels it takes me two or three trips that day to get
52:41
it from the truck to the CVUI can go in and say authorize
52:44
dismount. Three trip to door is the same
52:48
thing but it's a parcel to the door you have £350 Amazon boxes
52:56
of dog food. You ain't getting anyone trip.
53:00
You're taking three trips to do that.
53:02
So I can put in three trips to door so I get the credit to
53:05
walking from the truck to the door and back three times.
53:12
Yeah, that's a. Man who turns around?
53:15
You know the management that turns around and after you've
53:17
done that, questions you the next day of why you had that and
53:21
harasses you and just belittles you about doing that.
53:26
So I know you, you've been big on getting rid of managerial
53:30
harassment. What would you tell the rural
53:32
craft how to handle managerial harassment?
53:37
Well, we have you know in in management's handbook M39
53:44
section 115 four, it's mutual respect.
53:47
I don't know if you all has that.
53:53
It's those type things right there.
53:55
You know when you kind of online what you're talking about with
53:59
the parcels, you know, they came on ours and said here's the
54:05
parameters for parcels. You should have never done that.
54:09
You should have never put in a time on a parameter for a
54:13
parcel. I understand, you know that you
54:17
get time for it, but time should be time.
54:19
Whatever my time is I took it should be my time.
54:21
But they put in these parameters, you left the door
54:24
open to be abused. And so management that does that
54:29
to me, if it's creating a hostile working environment
54:34
because of what you're doing, then that should be covered
54:37
under 6115 for the M39 handbook. Maintaining a mutual respect
54:42
atmosphere. You know, if you have anything,
54:44
if you want to question something I'm doing, then you
54:47
need to get up and come out there and watch me if you don't
54:49
think that I'm doing something properly and then correct that.
54:52
But to continue to badger me and bully me because of something
54:56
you think I did wrong or question me because of something
54:59
you think I did wrong, you know, you're creating a hostile
55:02
working environment. That's what all these memos have
55:04
done. Is is created a hostile working
55:08
environment for my people. You're talking about Parcel
55:11
takes a minute. Parcel takes what it takes.
55:14
You know, just like what you're saying.
55:16
You get 3 trips. Why'd you take 3 trips?
55:18
What the fuck? I had three boxes I couldn't
55:20
take at one time, you know? And So what you've done is the
55:23
our union has left the door open for us to be abused and bullied
55:28
based off of these route adjustment processes.
55:31
And that's because we're in agreement with them.
55:34
We've come into an agreement with management.
55:36
You cannot grieve the process. You know, that's another thing
55:40
that kills me is that you can't grieve it.
55:43
And so you've left the door open for us to be abused off of it.
55:46
We cannot grieve it. But with what you're saying, if
55:51
manager continues to call you in there and question you about
55:54
certain things, to me this created a hostile working
55:57
environment and I would address that if Y'all's M38 is
56:01
management's handbook, I don't know what Section 115 is and
56:05
that but ours is 115 four. It talks about maintaining
56:10
mutual respect atmosphere. You know, I think that our union
56:17
is is as big a fault as management on this because
56:21
they've allowed it to happen. And I continue to say that these
56:25
memos have brought by about more abuse of my people than anything
56:30
in our history. And and it sounds like you're
56:34
getting the same same medicine as far as that's concerned.
56:38
And hell, we're in agreement with it.
56:40
You know, we're in bed with management based off of these
56:43
memos and these route adjustments and the parameters
56:46
and all that stuff, things that, you know, promote abuse of us.
56:50
And so I don't know. I mean, honestly, I don't know.
56:54
I mean, they're going to call you in that question about
56:56
things that we're in agreement with.
56:59
So, shit, you know, Well, you do.
57:02
For us on the M38 management of rural delivery services, it
57:06
would be 229.4 where it says it. However, it is the frontline
57:12
manager who controls management's attempt to maintain
57:15
an atmosphere between employer, an employee, which assures
57:19
mutual respect of each other's rights and responsibilities.
57:22
We also have the joint statements on workplace violence
57:25
and harassment, and you guys have the same ones we do because
57:30
everybody signed it. Yeah.
57:33
I will say they probably are. If you probably pulled the M39
57:38
in his section and that section of the M38, it's probably
57:41
verbatim. It's the same verbiage.
57:43
Yes, it is. It's the same verbage and ours
57:46
is 115 four. And if you go through both
57:50
handbooks, I'll guarantee with except for certain niches for
57:55
craft craft specifics, all the burgers is going to be the same
58:01
for the general info, yeah. Yeah, that's where I'd start.
58:07
You know, continue to come in there and harass you about why
58:12
it took you this, why it took you that.
58:14
And at some point, you know, you've created a hostile working
58:17
environment for me. I'm a good, I'm a good carrier.
58:20
You know, I do what I'm supposed to do if you don't think I'm
58:23
doing what I'm supposed to be doing.
58:25
Section 134 of the M39 handbook talks about St. observation.
58:30
You know, if it says that you've got evidence that I'm loitering
58:33
or not doing something I should be doing, then you can come out
58:35
there and watch me. But I would say that that was
58:40
what you would need to do. If you think that I'm doing
58:42
something I'm not supposed to be doing, then you can not.
58:45
You know, you're within your rights to come out there and
58:47
watch me. But to continue to badger me in
58:49
the office because you think I'm doing something or I'm not doing
58:52
something right, you know, for me that's a hostile work
58:56
environment. I agree.
58:59
Like our brother Eugene Grace getting nailed with stationary
59:04
events just before his passing. You know that right there only
59:08
using scanner data and our union actually has prolifically said
59:14
and the scanner data alone cannot be used for discipline.
59:17
Yeah, that's on our side as well.
59:19
You know, that's on our side as well.
59:21
However, I don't know if you heard me read the letter from
59:24
our president to the gentleman who sent me the letter talking
59:27
about it's just an inconvenience.
59:29
Yeah, I I heard that last. Week.
59:31
Holy smokes, man. What are you talking about?
59:34
You know, if you can't do it, you can't do it.
59:36
But we have been over to the God of the scanner.
59:39
I mean, they have. They worship this scanner.
59:42
I don't know why my president is so in love with this scanner.
59:45
He is in love with this scanner and what it can do.
59:49
And he he's in amazement at what this scanner can do.
59:53
But God, man, you got to think about us down work on floor when
59:56
you agree to all this shit. You know I'm sitting there
59:59
saying you know it's an inconvenience.
1:00:00
No, it's not. You know what's an inconvenience
1:00:04
is? Management continued to come in
1:00:06
there and tell us that we're stationed there for a certain
1:00:08
amount of time, asking me why. Get off your ass and come out
1:00:12
there and watch me if you think I'm doing something I shouldn't
1:00:14
be doing. But God dog, I mean we've opened
1:00:16
the door for so much abuse based off of these scanners.
1:00:21
Man. I, you know, these new right
1:00:25
adjustments may be great and maybe the best thing that's ever
1:00:28
happened to us, but I don't know that we had a list of of things
1:00:32
that we're dealing with. If right adjustments be at the
1:00:34
top of it, I imagine it'd probably be down you know 5th or
1:00:37
6th or 7th to me non compliance management, that's unruly.
1:00:42
Those would be top two things. But we've this route adjustment
1:00:47
process is like it is the most, you know it's the top of their
1:00:52
list. I don't think it would be at the
1:00:53
top of the city cares list route adjustment process.
1:00:56
But man ever since this has come on it has been a shit show with
1:01:00
the city carrier craft. You know, the second these memos
1:01:04
were signed, man, management was waiting to jump.
1:01:06
And they did. And they have been pouncing on
1:01:08
US ever since. And you got a coward ass from a
1:01:12
president on our side that refuses to stand up to it.
1:01:18
It's it's it's wild. And was that a question?
1:01:22
Somebody asked me. Somebody asked me a question.
1:01:26
I'll just go off right there. I just woke.
1:01:28
Up What happened? It's OK.
1:01:29
I'll take one second here. The M39 section that you were
1:01:35
talking about in the rural side, it is SECT Chapter 5 #510 Annual
1:01:42
Inspection of Routes for the Rural side, just so you guys are
1:01:46
aware of where it's at, NRM 38. Someone commented Corey.
1:01:52
Meanwhile, the president still has a Nokia phone.
1:01:55
I would be impressed with the scanners too.
1:02:00
Really. And then someone.
1:02:03
Replied to that saying playing snake on the key of home, yeah.
1:02:10
That's a yeah, like, yeah, looking at a new gate.
1:02:15
We don't want to keep you much longer, 'cause we know that you
1:02:17
definitely are a busy man right now and you got your stuff to
1:02:20
work on. But we really appreciate you
1:02:22
taking this time to join us and I think James, Bill and I will
1:02:27
definitely get in touch with you and see if we're about coming on
1:02:31
as if we get. Closer.
1:02:32
To National Convention and we'll we'll be in touch and.
1:02:37
That that'd be great. I'd like that.
1:02:38
Y'all reach out to me anytime, man.
1:02:40
If I can get on there, I get on here.
1:02:41
I enjoyed it. I I yeah, I'll give.
1:02:43
Them. Your phone number.
1:02:44
So you so you they have it to reach out to you directly.
1:02:48
Yeah, absolutely. It's been a pleasure.
1:02:51
Definitely it It was great. I'll finally get this done.
1:02:55
Kristen I'm sure if you message or call him, he won't ignore you
1:02:59
or tell you he'll call you back. That's my fault.
1:03:05
I'll get. Back to you.
1:03:06
I'll get back to. You I was, yeah.
1:03:11
Does your leadership do that? No.
1:03:13
Let me look that up and I'll get back to you and. 6.
1:03:18
Months, Months. Years later, you're still
1:03:21
waiting. Well, luckily, luckily, I've got
1:03:23
JB and so I'll ask him about something.
1:03:27
He either knows it right there or he'll call me back in about
1:03:29
two minutes. I don't go to anybody else.
1:03:31
I go to JB. He's he's the he's the man.
1:03:34
But yeah, I was talking to him when I was when you called
1:03:37
earlier, I said, man, let me call you back.
1:03:39
The hell when he messes me like 4 hours later and he's like,
1:03:42
hey, what's up? I was like, oh damn, I forgot.
1:03:45
But I I apologize for that. But yeah, y'all have me on
1:03:51
anytime, man. Somebody asked would JB be
1:03:53
interested in coming on the podcast?
1:03:56
He may be now his his his oldest daughter is fixing to have a
1:04:00
baby. I think they put her in today so
1:04:02
they're not. She's not going to make it past
1:04:04
the 28th, so it won't be any time soon because he's going to
1:04:08
be enjoying that grandbaby. But that's the guy now.
1:04:11
He's the one when I become business agent, he's going to be
1:04:15
my right hand man. He's, I'm going to send him
1:04:17
around this region. I I kind of know where he's
1:04:21
coming for from that. He has come to the studio
1:04:26
because he'd have to go, you know, You'd have to log him in
1:04:28
on the Discord through your computer.
1:04:31
Yeah, we can do something. We can figure something out.
1:04:34
But he he'd be a good one to have one too.
1:04:36
Man, he's he knows his stuff. I had to get.
1:04:39
What was that, young man? I'm sorry.
1:04:41
Go on, Kristen. As I say, I I know where he's
1:04:43
coming from that I my daughter keeps giving me her blessing to
1:04:47
go and run for national office in August because her due date
1:04:51
is the day before National Convention starts.
1:04:54
Oh, really? Yes.
1:04:55
Oh, yeah. So, yeah.
1:04:57
So you, you do know. But yes, she's got her bags
1:05:02
packed and ready to to go when something goes down.
1:05:05
But that's that's where he's at right now.
1:05:08
So he's he's excited and scared and all the things, you know,
1:05:12
I've got one grandbaby so I know what he's fixing to go through.
1:05:17
So yeah, yeah, y'all y'all remember him.
1:05:21
Oh, definitely, definitely. But yeah, that young man, you,
1:05:25
that young man you had on recently, Trevor, was it?
1:05:29
Tyler Vassar. Tyler Yes, that was a good one.
1:05:33
That guy Sharp. One of you guys said you wanted
1:05:36
to try and get him on. Yes.
1:05:39
No. Maybe.
1:05:42
Eventually. Yeah, we can definitely imagine
1:05:44
he would. I imagine he would.
1:05:46
Come on, he would be a good one. That guy, he's he's much smarter
1:05:49
than me. Yeah, I was like, damn.
1:05:52
I mean, when he was talking, I was like, oh, shit, this guy
1:05:54
knows his stuff. Give him my contact information,
1:05:59
OK? Yeah.
1:06:00
Ron says he's going to be unfed up soon, too.
1:06:04
Oh, yes, yeah, yeah, that. He'll be good, that guy.
1:06:07
He's sharp. He's really sharp.
1:06:10
Yeah, so get him my contact if he's interested, get him my
1:06:14
contact information and we'll try and set up something.
1:06:17
I imagine he would be, you know, anybody's trying to just spread
1:06:21
their message, I imagine wants to be on any platform they can
1:06:23
get on, you know? Right, But yeah, it's And then
1:06:30
just let me know one way or another if he's interested.
1:06:34
All right, well, I'll just send your contact information.
1:06:39
Yeah, well, you have it. Yeah, yeah, I got your phone
1:06:43
number. Yeah, that works.
1:06:45
All right. So, so we're going to let Corey
1:06:48
get back, but if you've got any final thoughts or comments that
1:06:51
you can send out to everybody that's listening this evening,
1:06:54
Corey, that'd be great. Yeah, just to me, we're all in
1:06:59
the same boat. We're all the same family, you
1:07:02
know, just because we do things a little bit differently, you
1:07:06
know, hearing y'all talk about your struggles with national,
1:07:10
it's our same struggle. I I think that a movement on
1:07:14
Y'all side is critical as well as a movement on our side is
1:07:18
critical. To me.
1:07:20
There's a new day as far as the union is concerned and that's
1:07:23
what I want. I want a new day as far as this
1:07:26
union is concerned, a more militant union.
1:07:28
I think that's what Y'all need and y'all deserve.
1:07:31
Way back when my father was doing it, he was begging the
1:07:35
Euro care union to do more for their people.
1:07:39
And that's been the running joke all these years.
1:07:42
Somebody's going to step up and do it differently and you're
1:07:45
going to need to be militant. And if you get militant and you
1:07:50
educate your people, all these work room drama, all that shit
1:07:54
will stop because you'll have people that will take charge of
1:07:56
that shit and take hold of it. And that's the same thing I'm
1:08:00
going to do when I become business agent, when we get a
1:08:03
new president in here. That's what I'm telling our
1:08:05
people is that we're going to become a militant union again
1:08:09
and take over this place with y'all the APW.
1:08:13
If everybody was the same way and get out of this fat cat type
1:08:18
old union bullshit that they do sitting back doing nothing for
1:08:22
us. Once we take that over and
1:08:26
become a new union, I think you'll see a new Postal Service.
1:08:29
But that would be the last thing I would say.
1:08:32
I love everybody on here, man. I see we got a pretty good group
1:08:35
on here. To me, you are still my brothers
1:08:38
and sisters, even though you are.
1:08:40
Y'all don't work near as much as we do.
1:08:42
And so, but smarter, not harder. Yeah, but but hey, I've been
1:08:52
there. I've done that.
1:08:53
I enjoyed it. With a little bit of time I
1:08:54
could do it, so I ain't knocking it, but I really appreciate
1:08:59
y'all having me on though, seriously.
1:09:00
And I'll come on anytime you want me.
1:09:03
Thank you, Corey. We appreciate.
1:09:04
It and. Many of our listeners are
1:09:07
listening down on the stage. I've had definitely said thank
1:09:09
you, they enjoyed you coming on with us tonight and we will
1:09:13
definitely be in touch again for sure.
1:09:15
Absolutely. Y'all take care of yourself.
1:09:17
You too, you have a great evening.
1:09:19
All right, all right. Y'all too.
1:09:21
Bye. Bye.
1:09:21
Good. Night.
1:09:22
Bye. There you have it guys.
1:09:26
We we got through with Corey definitely will not be a
1:09:29
stranger. We'll definitely set up
1:09:32
something for James, Bill and I to get on there with Corey as
1:09:35
well. Yes.
1:09:37
We're also looking at getting on fed up as well.
1:09:40
Yes, yes. So.
1:09:43
But just a final thought here, as you heard from Corey, they're
1:09:49
dealing with the exact same management that we are on the
1:09:53
City side. And even though our unions
1:09:57
compete for routes, compete for mailboxes, compete for
1:10:01
customers, at the end of the day we're brothers and sisters doing
1:10:06
the same job. And the biggest thing about that
1:10:09
is we're all in this together. Absolutely.
1:10:15
So we are going to sign up for tonight and we'll have this up
1:10:19
for everybody's listening pleasure by the mornings.
1:10:25
Thank you everybody for joining us Again, we thank Corey for
1:10:27
coming on with us finally this evening.
1:10:31
Have a good evening.