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Entering the Path of Heart: Love and the Jealous Beloved · Deep Transformation

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  Welcome
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  to
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  part
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  first
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  dialogue
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  in
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  our
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  Path
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  of
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  Love
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  series
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  with
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  sage
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  and
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  spiritual
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  guide
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  A.
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  H.
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  Almaas,
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  AKA
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  Hameed
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  Ali.
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  In
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  this
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  conversation
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  we
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  review
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  the
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  arc
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  of
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  Hameed's
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  three
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  books
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  in
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  his
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  Love
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  Trilogy
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  from
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  a
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  30,000
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  foot
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  overview
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  to
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  give
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  us
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  the
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  lay
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  of
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  the
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  land
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  in
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  the
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  journey
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  of
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  the
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  heart.
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  In
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  subsequent
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  conversations
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  we
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  will
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  focus
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  on
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  his
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  newest
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  book,
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  the
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  Inner
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  Beloved,
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  hot
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  off
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  the
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  press
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  and
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  it
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  is
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  awesome.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  Deep
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  transformation,
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  Self
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  Society,
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  Spiritual
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  spirit,
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  life
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  enhancing,
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  paradigm
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  rattling
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  conversations
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  with
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  cutting
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  edge
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  thinkers,
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  contemplatives
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  and
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  activists
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  with
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  Dr.
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  Roger
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  Walsh
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  and
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  John
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  Dupuy.
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  I'm
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  Roger
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  Walsh
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  and
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  our
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  co
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  host
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  is
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  John
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  Dupuy.
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  And
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  our
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  guest
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  today
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  is
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  Hameed
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  Ali,
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  pen
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  name
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  A.
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  H.
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  Almaas.
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  And
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  we've
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  been
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  privileged
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  to
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  explore
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  with
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  Hameed
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  the
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  central
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  text
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  of
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  his
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  work
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  which
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  is
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  the
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  Inner
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  Journey
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  Home.
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  And
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  that
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  forms
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  the
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  basis
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  or
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  provides
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  an
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  outline
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  of
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  the
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  soul's
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  journey
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  from
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  the
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  earliest
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  egoic
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  challenges
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  all
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  the
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  way
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  through
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  to
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  degrees
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  of
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  realization
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  and
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  self
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  transcendence
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  and
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  then
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  return
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  back
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  into
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  the
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  world.
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  It's
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  really
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  truly
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  an
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  extraordinary
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  work.
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  Laying
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  out
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  the
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  spiritual
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  path
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  in
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  its
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  fullness
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  with
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  a
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  degree
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  of
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  integration
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  of
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  psychological
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  and
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  spiritual
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  dimensions.
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  Drawing
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  in
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  part
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  on
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  cross
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  cultural
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  enrichments,
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  but
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  centered
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  and
• 1:38
  inspired
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  by
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  Hameed's
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  direct
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  experience.
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  But
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  today
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  we
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  begin
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  with
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  something
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  new
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  and
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  that
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  is
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  we
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  are
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  beginning
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  an
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  exploration
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  of
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  Hameed's
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  most
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  recent
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  book,
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  the
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  Inner
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  Beloved,
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  which
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  is
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  being
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  released
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  as
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  this
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  broadcast
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  is
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  being
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  broadcast.
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  In
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  this
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  book,
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  Hameed
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  culminates
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  a
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  trilogy
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  of
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  books
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  on
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  love.
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  The
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  first
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  book
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  is
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  Love
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  Unveiled,
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  the
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  second
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  is
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  Non
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  Dual
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  Love.
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  And
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  these
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  build
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  up
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  to
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  the
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  culmination
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  in
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  the
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  current
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  book
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  the
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  Inner
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  Beloved.
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  And
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  John
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  and
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  I
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  have
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  been
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  diving
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  into
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  this
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  recent
• 2:24
  book
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  as
• 2:25
  we
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  have,
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  we
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  really
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  became
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  clear
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  that
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  we
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  really
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  needed
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  to
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  do
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  an
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  overview
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  of
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  the
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  whole
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  trilogy
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  that
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  while
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  the
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  Inner
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  Beloved
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  stands
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  by
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  itself
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  as
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  a
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  remarkable
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  text
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  of
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  the
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  far
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  the
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  reaches
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  of
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  human
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  potential
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  and
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  of
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  love,
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  it
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  also
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  is
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  situated
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  in
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  and
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  culminates
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  the
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  earlier
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  books.
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  And
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  so
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  it
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  really
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  felt
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  like
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  to
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  do
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  justice
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  to
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  the
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  Inner
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  Beloved,
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  we
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  also
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  needed
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  to
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  ask
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  Hameed
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  to
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  give
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  us
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  the
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  larger
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  picture,
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  the
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  complete
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  vision
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  that
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  inspired
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  and
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  animates
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  the
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  trilogy
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  as
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  a
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  whole.
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  So
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  we're
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  going
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  to
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  do
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  that.
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  But
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  I
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  also
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  want
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  to
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  just
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  add
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  a
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  personal
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  note
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  and
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  that
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  is
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  John
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  and
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  me
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  as
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  we've
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  dived
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  into
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  this
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  work
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  on
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  love,
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  which
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  perhaps
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  we've
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  been,
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  and
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  we've
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  been
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  calling
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  the
• 3:21
  dialogues
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  with
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  Hameed
• 3:22
  the
• 3:23
  A.
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  H.
• 3:23
  Almaas
• 3:23
  Wisdom
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  series.
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  But
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  perhaps
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  we
• 3:25
  should
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  call
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  these
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  interviews
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  the
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  A.
• 3:27
  H.
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  Love
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  series.
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  Well,
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  we'll
• 3:29
  see.
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  But,
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  but
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  as
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  we've
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  dived
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  into
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  this
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  work
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  we
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  have.
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  Maybe
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  I
• 3:37
  should
• 3:37
  speak
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  for
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  myself,
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  but
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  I.
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  I
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  think
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  I'm
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  echoing
• 3:40
  John
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  here.
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  We
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  have
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  experienced
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  a
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  remarkable
• 3:43
  sense
• 3:44
  of
• 3:45
  excitement
• 3:46
  and
• 3:47
  wonder
• 3:48
  and
• 3:48
  awe
• 3:49
  and
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  some
• 3:51
  overwhelm
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  as
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  we
• 3:52
  realize
• 3:52
  the
• 3:53
  vastness
• 3:53
  and
• 3:53
  depth
• 3:54
  of
• 3:54
  the
• 3:54
  vision
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  that's
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  being
• 3:55
  presented
• 3:55
  here
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  and
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  the
• 3:57
  challenge
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  of
• 3:57
  us
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  to
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  open
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  deeply
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  enough
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  to
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  do
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  justice
• 4:01
  to
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  it.
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  So
• 4:03
  whatever
• 4:03
  justice
• 4:04
  we
• 4:04
  can
• 4:04
  do
• 4:04
  to
• 4:04
  it,
• 4:05
  it's
• 4:05
  really
• 4:05
  been
• 4:05
  an
• 4:05
  extraordinary
• 4:06
  privilege
• 4:07
  to
• 4:07
  engage
• 4:08
  with
• 4:08
  this
• 4:09
  trilogy
• 4:09
  and
• 4:10
  to
• 4:10
  let
• 4:10
  it
• 4:10
  work
• 4:11
  on
• 4:11
  us
• 4:11
  and
• 4:11
  in
• 4:12
  us
• 4:12
  and
• 4:13
  hopefully
• 4:13
  transform
• 4:14
  us,
• 4:14
  at
• 4:14
  least
• 4:14
  in
• 4:15
  part,
• 4:15
  and
• 4:16
  open
• 4:16
  to
• 4:17
  the
• 4:18
  enormity
• 4:18
  and
• 4:18
  profundity
• 4:19
  of
• 4:19
  the
• 4:19
  vision
• 4:19
  it
• 4:20
  offers.
• 4:20
  So
• 4:21
  that's
• 4:21
  the
• 4:22
  context
• 4:22
  for
• 4:23
  this
• 4:23
  dialogue
• 4:24
  and
• 4:24
  our
• 4:24
  subsequent
• 4:25
  ones
• 4:25
  with
• 4:25
  Hameed
• 4:26
  on
• 4:26
  this.
• 4:26
  So,
• 4:27
  Hameed,
• 4:27
  maybe
• 4:28
  we
• 4:28
  could.
• 4:29
  You're
• 4:29
  welcome
• 4:30
  to
• 4:30
  begin
• 4:31
  where
• 4:31
  you'd
• 4:31
  like,
• 4:32
  but
• 4:32
  perhaps
• 4:32
  you'd
• 4:33
  like
• 4:33
  to
• 4:34
  give
• 4:34
  us
• 4:35
  the
• 4:35
  vision
• 4:35
  that
• 4:36
  inspired
• 4:37
  this
• 4:38
  whole
• 4:39
  trilogy.
• 4:40
  Well,
• 4:40
  I'll
• 4:40
  put
• 4:41
  it
• 4:41
  in
• 4:41
  context
• 4:42
  of
• 4:42
  all
• 4:42
  of
• 4:42
  my
• 4:42
  books.
• 4:43
  First
• 4:44
  of
• 4:44
  all,
• 4:45
  usually
• 4:46
  I
• 4:46
  don't
• 4:46
  put
• 4:46
  out
• 4:47
  books
• 4:48
  just
• 4:48
  because
• 4:48
  I
• 4:49
  want
• 4:49
  to
• 4:49
  write
• 4:49
  about
• 4:50
  something.
• 4:50
  I
• 4:51
  put
• 4:51
  out
• 4:51
  books
• 4:52
  from
• 4:52
  the
• 4:53
  teaching
• 4:53
  that
• 4:53
  I
• 4:54
  approach
• 4:55
  that
• 4:56
  are
• 4:56
  contribution
• 4:57
  to
• 4:57
  spiritual
• 4:57
  literature.
• 4:59
  I
• 4:59
  put
• 4:59
  out
• 5:00
  books
• 5:00
  about
• 5:00
  topics
• 5:01
  that
• 5:01
  I
• 5:02
  don't
• 5:02
  find
• 5:03
  in
• 5:03
  the
• 5:03
  literature.
• 5:05
  So
• 5:05
  the
• 5:05
  Inner
• 5:05
  Journey
• 5:06
  Home
• 5:06
  is
• 5:06
  one
• 5:07
  of
• 5:07
  them
• 5:07
  for.
• 5:07
  So
• 5:08
  the
• 5:08
  detail
• 5:08
  is.
• 5:09
  No,
• 5:09
  I
• 5:09
  don't
• 5:10
  know
• 5:10
  when
• 5:10
  you
• 5:10
  have
• 5:10
  books,
• 5:12
  how
• 5:12
  much
• 5:12
  detail
• 5:13
  to
• 5:13
  those
• 5:14
  topics.
• 5:14
  But
• 5:14
  the
• 5:15
  other
• 5:15
  books
• 5:15
  I
• 5:16
  put
• 5:16
  in,
• 5:16
  you
• 5:16
  know,
• 5:17
  like
• 5:17
  the
• 5:17
  Point
• 5:18
  of
• 5:18
  Existence,
• 5:18
  the
• 5:19
  Pearl
• 5:19
  Beyond
• 5:19
  Price,
• 5:20
  these,
• 5:21
  you
• 5:21
  don't
• 5:21
  find.
• 5:21
  These
• 5:22
  topics
• 5:22
  you
• 5:22
  don't
• 5:23
  find
• 5:23
  really
• 5:23
  and
• 5:24
  detailed
• 5:24
  any.
• 5:26
  So
• 5:26
  I
• 5:26
  was.
• 5:26
  I
• 5:27
  was
• 5:27
  filling
• 5:27
  in
• 5:28
  literature.
• 5:28
  I
• 5:28
  wasn't
• 5:29
  trying
• 5:29
  to
• 5:29
  put
• 5:29
  out
• 5:29
  that
• 5:30
  approach
• 5:30
  as
• 5:31
  much
• 5:31
  as
• 5:31
  filling
• 5:32
  in
• 5:32
  gaps
• 5:33
  in
• 5:33
  the
• 5:33
  literature.
• 5:35
  So
• 5:35
  now
• 5:35
  I
• 5:36
  was
• 5:36
  doing
• 5:36
  that.
• 5:36
  At
• 5:37
  some
• 5:37
  point,
• 5:38
  some
• 5:38
  people
• 5:38
  start
• 5:39
  looking
• 5:39
  at
• 5:40
  the
• 5:41
  books
• 5:41
  I
• 5:41
  was
• 5:41
  writing,
• 5:42
  especially
• 5:43
  the
• 5:44
  one
• 5:44
  that
• 5:44
  are
• 5:44
  more
• 5:45
  technical,
• 5:45
  like
• 5:45
  the
• 5:46
  Point
• 5:46
  book
• 5:46
  and
• 5:47
  the
• 5:48
  Pearl
• 5:48
  Beam,
• 5:49
  Price
• 5:49
  and
• 5:49
  the
• 5:49
  Void,
• 5:50
  because
• 5:51
  they
• 5:51
  are
• 5:51
  more
• 5:52
  scholarly
• 5:52
  and
• 5:54
  reference
• 5:55
  as
• 5:56
  more
• 5:56
  heady,
• 5:57
  more
• 5:57
  intellectual.
• 5:59
  And
• 5:59
  I
• 6:00
  realized,
• 6:00
  well,
• 6:01
  they're
• 6:02
  missing
• 6:03
  the
• 6:04
  important
• 6:04
  element
• 6:05
  in
• 6:05
  this
• 6:05
  teaching,
• 6:06
  which
• 6:06
  is
• 6:06
  the
• 6:06
  role
• 6:07
  of
• 6:07
  love.
• 6:08
  So
• 6:08
  that's
• 6:08
  when
• 6:08
  I
• 6:08
  said,
• 6:09
  well,
• 6:09
  I
• 6:09
  better
• 6:10
  do
• 6:10
  something
• 6:10
  about
• 6:11
  love.
• 6:11
  I
• 6:11
  didn't
• 6:12
  want
• 6:12
  to
• 6:12
  do
• 6:13
  at
• 6:13
  the
• 6:13
  beginning
• 6:13
  something
• 6:13
  about
• 6:14
  love,
• 6:14
  because
• 6:14
  many
• 6:15
  people
• 6:15
  write
• 6:15
  about
• 6:16
  love.
• 6:17
  I
• 6:17
  didn't
• 6:17
  think
• 6:17
  that
• 6:18
  the
• 6:19
  spiritual
• 6:19
  field
• 6:20
  needed
• 6:20
  more
• 6:21
  about
• 6:21
  love.
• 6:23
  So.
• 6:23
  But
• 6:23
  I
• 6:23
  realized
• 6:24
  I
• 6:24
  need
• 6:24
  to
• 6:25
  complete
• 6:25
  the
• 6:25
  story
• 6:26
  of
• 6:26
  the
• 6:26
  diamond
• 6:27
  approach
• 6:27
  of
• 6:28
  this
• 6:28
  teaching
• 6:29
  by
• 6:29
  showing
• 6:30
  the
• 6:30
  role
• 6:30
  of
• 6:30
  love,
• 6:31
  which
• 6:31
  of
• 6:32
  course
• 6:32
  turns
• 6:33
  out
• 6:33
  to
• 6:33
  be
• 6:33
  is
• 6:34
  a
• 6:34
  contribution.
• 6:34
  Because
• 6:35
  I'm
• 6:35
  bringing
• 6:35
  things
• 6:36
  about
• 6:36
  love
• 6:37
  and
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  role
• 6:37
  of
• 6:38
  love
• 6:39
  and
• 6:39
  the
• 6:39
  path
• 6:40
  of
• 6:40
  love
• 6:40
  in
• 6:41
  ways
• 6:41
  that
• 6:41
  are
• 6:41
  not.
• 6:42
  That
• 6:43
  are
• 6:43
  different
• 6:43
  from
• 6:43
  other
• 6:44
  teachings.
• 6:44
  Many
• 6:44
  Teachings
• 6:45
  are
• 6:45
  right
• 6:45
  about
• 6:45
  love.
• 6:45
  I
• 6:46
  mean,
• 6:46
  the
• 6:46
  whole
• 6:46
  Sufi
• 6:47
  path
• 6:47
  is
• 6:47
  all
• 6:47
  about
• 6:48
  Bala,
• 6:48
  for
• 6:48
  instance.
• 6:49
  So
• 6:49
  these
• 6:50
  three
• 6:50
  books
• 6:50
  are
• 6:50
  basically
• 6:51
  I
• 6:51
  took
• 6:51
  them
• 6:53
  the
• 6:54
  way
• 6:54
  I
• 6:54
  will
• 6:54
  use
• 6:54
  the
• 6:55
  teaching.
• 6:55
  First
• 6:57
  talk
• 6:57
  about
• 6:57
  love.
• 6:57
  What
• 6:57
  is
• 6:58
  love?
• 6:59
  What
• 6:59
  is
• 6:59
  the
• 6:59
  experience
• 6:59
  of
• 7:00
  love?
• 7:00
  And
• 7:01
  Ferris
• 7:02
  book
• 7:02
  Love
• 7:03
  and
• 7:03
  Welsh
• 7:04
  gives
• 7:04
  the
• 7:05
  experience
• 7:05
  of
• 7:05
  love,
• 7:06
  the
• 7:06
  understanding
• 7:06
  of
• 7:06
  love,
• 7:07
  how
• 7:07
  to
• 7:07
  liberate
• 7:08
  love
• 7:08
  to
• 7:09
  the
• 7:09
  openness
• 7:09
  of
• 7:09
  the
• 7:10
  heart
• 7:10
  by
• 7:11
  giving
• 7:11
  different
• 7:11
  qualities
• 7:12
  of
• 7:12
  love.
• 7:13
  Love
• 7:13
  is
• 7:13
  not
• 7:13
  just
• 7:14
  one
• 7:14
  thing.
• 7:15
  There
• 7:15
  are
• 7:15
  many
• 7:16
  qualities
• 7:16
  of
• 7:17
  love
• 7:17
  that
• 7:18
  hooks
• 7:19
  again
• 7:20
  with
• 7:20
  what
• 7:20
  we
• 7:21
  studying
• 7:21
  in
• 7:21
  the
• 7:21
  energy
• 7:22
  neuron,
• 7:23
  what
• 7:23
  we
• 7:23
  call
• 7:23
  the
• 7:24
  aspects
• 7:24
  and
• 7:24
  qualities.
• 7:26
  There
• 7:26
  are
• 7:26
  many
• 7:26
  qualities
• 7:27
  of
• 7:27
  true
• 7:27
  nature
• 7:28
  or
• 7:28
  presence.
• 7:29
  And
• 7:30
  some
• 7:30
  of
• 7:30
  these
• 7:30
  qualities
• 7:31
  are
• 7:31
  qualities
• 7:32
  of
• 7:32
  the
• 7:32
  heart.
• 7:33
  And
• 7:34
  love
• 7:34
  is
• 7:34
  the
• 7:35
  main
• 7:35
  thing.
• 7:36
  Art
• 7:36
  has
• 7:36
  other
• 7:37
  qualities
• 7:37
  like
• 7:37
  fulfillment
• 7:38
  and
• 7:39
  satisfaction
• 7:40
  and
• 7:40
  joy.
• 7:41
  But
• 7:42
  love
• 7:42
  is
• 7:42
  the
• 7:43
  main
• 7:43
  thing
• 7:43
  about
• 7:43
  the
• 7:44
  heart.
• 7:44
  So
• 7:45
  the
• 7:45
  first
• 7:45
  book
• 7:45
  gives
• 7:47
  a
• 7:48
  sense
• 7:48
  what
• 7:48
  is
• 7:49
  the
• 7:49
  presence
• 7:49
  of
• 7:49
  love
• 7:50
  is
• 7:50
  like
• 7:50
  not
• 7:51
  the
• 7:51
  emotional
• 7:51
  love,
• 7:52
  but
• 7:52
  the
• 7:52
  spiritual
• 7:52
  love,
• 7:53
  how
• 7:53
  it
• 7:53
  is
• 7:53
  a
• 7:54
  presence.
• 7:54
  And
• 7:55
  it
• 7:55
  gives
• 7:56
  the
• 7:56
  whole
• 7:56
  phenomenology
• 7:57
  of
• 7:57
  it.
• 7:59
  Both
• 7:59
  the
• 7:59
  phenomenology,
• 8:00
  what
• 8:01
  it's
• 8:01
  feeling
• 8:01
  like,
• 8:02
  the
• 8:02
  texture
• 8:02
  and
• 8:03
  the
• 8:03
  taste.
• 8:03
  And
• 8:04
  then
• 8:04
  the
• 8:04
  flavor
• 8:05
  and
• 8:05
  the
• 8:06
  sensation,
• 8:07
  visual
• 8:08
  and
• 8:08
  the
• 8:09
  whole
• 8:09
  synesthetic
• 8:10
  experience
• 8:11
  of
• 8:11
  it.
• 8:12
  And
• 8:12
  also
• 8:13
  the
• 8:13
  particle
• 8:13
  barriers
• 8:14
  to
• 8:14
  each
• 8:14
  one
• 8:15
  of
• 8:15
  them.
• 8:15
  And
• 8:15
  I
• 8:15
  talk
• 8:16
  about
• 8:16
  three
• 8:16
  kinds
• 8:17
  of
• 8:17
  love
• 8:17
  there
• 8:18
  that
• 8:18
  are
• 8:18
  very
• 8:19
  important
• 8:20
  in
• 8:20
  human
• 8:21
  life
• 8:22
  and
• 8:22
  important
• 8:23
  in
• 8:23
  spiritual
• 8:24
  practice.
• 8:26
  One
• 8:26
  of
• 8:26
  them
• 8:27
  appreciative
• 8:28
  love,
• 8:29
  which
• 8:29
  is
• 8:29
  the
• 8:30
  appreciation,
• 8:31
  the
• 8:31
  liking
• 8:31
  of
• 8:32
  something
• 8:32
  or
• 8:32
  somebody.
• 8:33
  Which
• 8:33
  is
• 8:34
  the
• 8:34
  most
• 8:34
  common
• 8:35
  form
• 8:36
  of
• 8:36
  love.
• 8:37
  The
• 8:37
  other
• 8:37
  love
• 8:37
  that's
• 8:38
  called
• 8:38
  merging.
• 8:39
  The
• 8:39
  love
• 8:40
  merging
• 8:41
  gold,
• 8:41
  which
• 8:42
  is
• 8:42
  a
• 8:42
  golden
• 8:43
  sense
• 8:43
  of
• 8:44
  wanting
• 8:44
  to
• 8:44
  be
• 8:44
  one
• 8:44
  or
• 8:45
  something.
• 8:45
  That
• 8:46
  is
• 8:46
  the.
• 8:47
  The
• 8:47
  sense
• 8:48
  of
• 8:48
  melting
• 8:48
  and
• 8:49
  dissolving
• 8:50
  into
• 8:50
  what
• 8:51
  we
• 8:51
  love.
• 8:52
  And
• 8:52
  the
• 8:52
  third
• 8:53
  one
• 8:53
  is
• 8:53
  the
• 8:53
  passionate
• 8:54
  ecstatic
• 8:54
  love
• 8:55
  I
• 8:55
  call
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  pomegranate
• 8:57
  love,
• 8:58
  which
• 8:58
  is
• 8:58
  zesty,
• 8:59
  passionate,
• 9:00
  powerful,
• 9:01
  overwhelming
• 9:02
  kind
• 9:02
  of
• 9:02
  love.
• 9:03
  So
• 9:04
  that's
• 9:04
  the
• 9:04
  first
• 9:04
  volume.
• 9:06
  Second
• 9:06
  volume
• 9:07
  I
• 9:07
  go
• 9:07
  into
• 9:09
  what
• 9:09
  I
• 9:09
  call
• 9:09
  universal
• 9:10
  love
• 9:12
  in
• 9:12
  a
• 9:12
  book
• 9:12
  called
• 9:13
  Divine
• 9:13
  Love.
• 9:14
  Which
• 9:14
  is
• 9:14
  one
• 9:14
  of
• 9:14
  the
• 9:15
  bond
• 9:15
  dimension
• 9:15
  we've
• 9:16
  been
• 9:16
  studying
• 9:16
  in
• 9:17
  our
• 9:17
  other
• 9:17
  study.
• 9:19
  Which
• 9:19
  is
• 9:20
  love
• 9:20
  not
• 9:20
  as
• 9:21
  an
• 9:21
  individual
• 9:22
  something
• 9:22
  that
• 9:22
  we
• 9:22
  experience
• 9:23
  in
• 9:23
  our
• 9:23
  heart,
• 9:24
  but
• 9:24
  as
• 9:25
  pervading
• 9:26
  the
• 9:26
  honey
• 9:27
  ocean
• 9:27
  without
• 9:27
  shores.
• 9:29
  That
• 9:29
  is
• 9:30
  one
• 9:30
  way
• 9:31
  of
• 9:31
  experiencing
• 9:31
  non
• 9:32
  duality
• 9:32
  actually
• 9:33
  as
• 9:33
  a
• 9:33
  non
• 9:34
  duality
• 9:34
  of
• 9:34
  love.
• 9:35
  That
• 9:35
  everything
• 9:36
  is
• 9:36
  in
• 9:36
  love,
• 9:37
  everything
• 9:37
  is
• 9:37
  made
• 9:37
  out
• 9:38
  of
• 9:38
  love.
• 9:39
  And
• 9:39
  that's
• 9:40
  a
• 9:40
  whole
• 9:40
  dimension.
• 9:41
  And
• 9:41
  I
• 9:42
  go
• 9:42
  through
• 9:42
  all
• 9:43
  them
• 9:44
  ways
• 9:44
  of
• 9:44
  experiencing
• 9:45
  the
• 9:45
  obstacles
• 9:46
  to
• 9:46
  it
• 9:46
  and
• 9:46
  ways
• 9:47
  of
• 9:47
  realizing
• 9:48
  it.
• 9:48
  So
• 9:49
  the
• 9:49
  first
• 9:49
  two
• 9:50
  books
• 9:50
  is
• 9:50
  about
• 9:50
  love
• 9:51
  itself.
• 9:51
  What's
• 9:52
  it
• 9:52
  like,
• 9:52
  what
• 9:53
  the
• 9:53
  free
• 9:53
  experience
• 9:54
  is,
• 9:54
  what
• 9:54
  the
• 9:55
  limitations
• 9:56
  are
• 9:57
  that
• 9:57
  make
• 9:57
  it
• 9:57
  not
• 9:57
  experience,
• 9:58
  how
• 9:58
  the
• 9:58
  heart
• 9:59
  opens,
• 9:59
  all
• 10:00
  of
• 10:00
  that.
• 10:01
  And
• 10:01
  my
• 10:02
  third
• 10:02
  book
• 10:03
  is
• 10:04
  this
• 10:04
  present
• 10:05
  One
• 10:06
  is
• 10:06
  about
• 10:06
  the
• 10:07
  path
• 10:07
  of
• 10:07
  love.
• 10:08
  What
• 10:08
  does
• 10:08
  love
• 10:09
  do
• 10:09
  in
• 10:09
  relation
• 10:10
  to
• 10:10
  spiritual
• 10:11
  search,
• 10:11
  to
• 10:12
  realization,
• 10:13
  Enlightenment,
• 10:15
  which
• 10:15
  is
• 10:15
  the
• 10:15
  inner
• 10:16
  beloved.
• 10:16
  Which
• 10:16
  is
• 10:17
  the
• 10:17
  love
• 10:17
  is
• 10:17
  the
• 10:18
  movement
• 10:18
  toward
• 10:19
  our
• 10:19
  fundamental
• 10:20
  nature.
• 10:21
  But
• 10:21
  through
• 10:22
  the
• 10:22
  heart.
• 10:22
  And
• 10:23
  through
• 10:23
  the
• 10:23
  heart
• 10:24
  that
• 10:24
  comes
• 10:24
  in
• 10:25
  at
• 10:25
  the
• 10:25
  inner
• 10:26
  beloved.
• 10:26
  The
• 10:26
  beloved
• 10:27
  of
• 10:27
  the
• 10:27
  heart.
• 10:27
  The
• 10:28
  only
• 10:28
  and
• 10:29
  true
• 10:30
  beloved
• 10:30
  of
• 10:30
  the
• 10:31
  heart.
• 10:31
  I
• 10:32
  conceived
• 10:32
  the
• 10:32
  idea
• 10:33
  of
• 10:33
  these
• 10:33
  three
• 10:34
  volumes.
• 10:36
  And
• 10:36
  I
• 10:37
  remember
• 10:37
  at
• 10:37
  the
• 10:38
  time
• 10:38
  I
• 10:38
  wanted
• 10:38
  somebody
• 10:39
  to
• 10:39
  write
• 10:39
  an
• 10:40
  intro
• 10:40
  or
• 10:40
  something.
• 10:41
  And
• 10:41
  who
• 10:41
  could
• 10:42
  write
• 10:42
  something
• 10:42
  about
• 10:42
  love.
• 10:44
  So
• 10:44
  the
• 10:44
  only
• 10:44
  one
• 10:44
  I
• 10:44
  could
• 10:44
  think
• 10:45
  of
• 10:45
  at
• 10:45
  that
• 10:45
  time
• 10:45
  was
• 10:45
  Ram
• 10:46
  Dass,
• 10:46
  because
• 10:47
  he
• 10:47
  teaches
• 10:47
  about
• 10:47
  love.
• 10:48
  So
• 10:48
  I
• 10:48
  talked
• 10:49
  to
• 10:49
  him
• 10:49
  and
• 10:49
  he
• 10:50
  liked
• 10:50
  the
• 10:50
  idea.
• 10:51
  And
• 10:51
  he
• 10:51
  wrote
• 10:52
  in
• 10:52
  a
• 10:52
  preface
• 10:53
  or
• 10:53
  anthropo
• 10:55
  for
• 10:55
  the
• 10:55
  series,
• 10:56
  which
• 10:57
  I'm
• 10:57
  greatly
• 10:58
  for.
• 10:59
  So
• 10:59
  now
• 11:00
  this
• 11:00
  third
• 11:01
  volume
• 11:02
  got
• 11:02
  edited
• 11:03
  two
• 11:04
  years
• 11:04
  ago.
• 11:04
  It's
• 11:05
  coming
• 11:05
  out
• 11:06
  at
• 11:07
  any
• 11:07
  time.
• 11:08
  And
• 11:08
  that,
• 11:11
  as
• 11:11
  I
• 11:11
  said,
• 11:11
  is
• 11:12
  the
• 11:12
  path
• 11:13
  of
• 11:13
  the
• 11:14
  heart.
• 11:14
  The
• 11:14
  path
• 11:15
  of
• 11:15
  love.
• 11:16
  What's
• 11:16
  called
• 11:16
  the
• 11:17
  Bhakti
• 11:18
  approach,
• 11:19
  which
• 11:19
  is
• 11:20
  inherent
• 11:20
  in
• 11:21
  the
• 11:21
  Dharma
• 11:21
  approach.
• 11:21
  Because
• 11:22
  Darren
• 11:22
  approach
• 11:23
  is
• 11:23
  the
• 11:23
  main
• 11:23
  motivation
• 11:24
  in
• 11:24
  loving
• 11:24
  truth
• 11:25
  for
• 11:25
  its
• 11:25
  own
• 11:25
  sake.
• 11:27
  And
• 11:27
  what
• 11:28
  is
• 11:28
  truth?
• 11:28
  Truth,
• 11:29
  we
• 11:29
  don't
• 11:29
  mean
• 11:30
  just
• 11:30
  any
• 11:30
  truth.
• 11:31
  We
• 11:31
  mean
• 11:31
  the
• 11:32
  deepest
• 11:32
  truth.
• 11:34
  But
• 11:35
  first
• 11:35
  we
• 11:35
  have
• 11:35
  to
• 11:35
  know
• 11:36
  truth.
• 11:36
  Any
• 11:36
  old
• 11:37
  levels
• 11:37
  to
• 11:38
  get
• 11:38
  to
• 11:38
  the
• 11:39
  most
• 11:39
  fundamental.
• 11:41
  So
• 11:41
  this
• 11:41
  book
• 11:41
  details
• 11:42
  the
• 11:43
  journey
• 11:43
  itself,
• 11:44
  goes
• 11:45
  through
• 11:45
  the
• 11:45
  stages
• 11:46
  of
• 11:46
  it,
• 11:46
  which,
• 11:47
  you
• 11:47
  know,
• 11:48
  it's
• 11:49
  not
• 11:49
  the
• 11:49
  first
• 11:49
  time
• 11:49
  we've
• 11:50
  done
• 11:50
  that.
• 11:50
  Somebody
• 11:51
  wrote
• 11:51
  about
• 11:52
  the
• 11:52
  journey
• 11:52
  of
• 11:53
  the
• 11:53
  heart
• 11:54
  we
• 11:54
  wrote
• 11:54
  about.
• 11:55
  But
• 11:55
  not
• 11:56
  in
• 11:56
  the
• 11:56
  way
• 11:56
  I'm
• 11:57
  doing
• 11:57
  it.
• 11:57
  Not
• 11:58
  in
• 11:58
  the
• 11:59
  various
• 11:59
  stages,
• 12:00
  how
• 12:00
  one
• 12:00
  comes
• 12:00
  after
• 12:01
  the
• 12:01
  other.
• 12:01
  What
• 12:02
  are
• 12:02
  the
• 12:02
  obstacle,
• 12:03
  the
• 12:03
  issues
• 12:04
  and
• 12:04
  the
• 12:05
  difficulties
• 12:06
  in
• 12:06
  each
• 12:06
  stage.
• 12:07
  And
• 12:07
  what
• 12:08
  happened
• 12:08
  to
• 12:08
  the
• 12:08
  heart
• 12:09
  and
• 12:09
  what
• 12:09
  happened
• 12:10
  to
• 12:10
  the
• 12:11
  experience.
• 12:11
  And
• 12:12
  what
• 12:12
  is
• 12:12
  that
• 12:12
  in
• 12:13
  our
• 12:13
  beloved,
• 12:13
  after
• 12:14
  all,
• 12:14
  you
• 12:14
  know,
• 12:15
  which
• 12:15
  is
• 12:15
  not
• 12:16
  revealed
• 12:16
  towards
• 12:16
  the
• 12:17
  latter
• 12:18
  part
• 12:18
  of
• 12:18
  the
• 12:19
  book.
• 12:20
  And
• 12:21
  I
• 12:21
  mean
• 12:21
  your
• 12:21
  understanding
• 12:22
  of
• 12:22
  love
• 12:23
  or
• 12:23
  the
• 12:23
  vision
• 12:23
  of
• 12:23
  love
• 12:24
  that
• 12:24
  you
• 12:24
  present
• 12:25
  here.
• 12:26
  Is
• 12:26
  very
• 12:26
  different
• 12:27
  from
• 12:28
  not
• 12:28
  only
• 12:28
  our
• 12:28
  cultural
• 12:29
  understanding
• 12:29
  of
• 12:30
  love
• 12:30
  as
• 12:30
  some
• 12:30
  emotion.
• 12:31
  But
• 12:32
  even
• 12:32
  from
• 12:32
  most
• 12:32
  spiritual
• 12:33
  understandings
• 12:34
  of
• 12:35
  love
• 12:35
  is
• 12:35
  kind
• 12:36
  of
• 12:36
  the
• 12:36
  goal
• 12:37
  or
• 12:37
  dissolving
• 12:38
  into
• 12:39
  becoming.
• 12:40
  Not
• 12:40
  even
• 12:41
  becoming
• 12:41
  one
• 12:41
  with,
• 12:42
  but
• 12:43
  being
• 12:44
  intimate
• 12:44
  with.
• 12:45
  Love
• 12:45
  is
• 12:45
  often
• 12:45
  presented
• 12:46
  as
• 12:46
  an
• 12:46
  endpoint.
• 12:47
  And
• 12:47
  you
• 12:47
  go
• 12:47
  far
• 12:48
  beyond
• 12:48
  that.
• 12:48
  So
• 12:50
  maybe
• 12:50
  you
• 12:50
  could
• 12:50
  say
• 12:50
  something
• 12:51
  about
• 12:51
  the
• 12:51
  very
• 12:51
  nature
• 12:52
  of
• 12:52
  love
• 12:52
  and
• 12:53
  its
• 12:53
  function.
• 12:55
  The
• 12:55
  second
• 12:56
  volume
• 12:56
  talks
• 12:57
  about
• 12:57
  what
• 12:57
  you're
• 12:58
  mentioning,
• 12:59
  which
• 12:59
  is
• 12:59
  dissolve
• 13:00
  into
• 13:00
  love,
• 13:00
  which
• 13:00
  is
• 13:01
  the
• 13:01
  dimension
• 13:01
  of
• 13:01
  love,
• 13:02
  which
• 13:02
  is.
• 13:03
  Which
• 13:03
  is
• 13:03
  our
• 13:04
  spiritual
• 13:04
  nature
• 13:05
  as
• 13:05
  medad
• 13:06
  of
• 13:06
  love.
• 13:07
  And
• 13:08
  some
• 13:08
  teaching.
• 13:09
  That's
• 13:09
  what
• 13:10
  spiritual
• 13:10
  nature
• 13:10
  is.
• 13:11
  It's
• 13:11
  just
• 13:12
  pure
• 13:12
  love.
• 13:12
  Everything
• 13:13
  is
• 13:13
  love
• 13:14
  and
• 13:14
  it
• 13:14
  is
• 13:15
  true.
• 13:15
  Except
• 13:16
  our
• 13:16
  true
• 13:17
  nature
• 13:17
  has
• 13:18
  more
• 13:18
  dimension
• 13:18
  to
• 13:19
  it
• 13:19
  and
• 13:19
  more
• 13:19
  subtlety
• 13:20
  to
• 13:20
  it
• 13:20
  than
• 13:21
  just
• 13:21
  love.
• 13:21
  Love
• 13:21
  is
• 13:23
  One
• 13:23
  of
• 13:23
  its
• 13:23
  main
• 13:24
  manifestation.
• 13:27
  So
• 13:27
  those
• 13:28
  teachings
• 13:28
  are
• 13:28
  not
• 13:29
  wrong,
• 13:30
  they're
• 13:30
  just
• 13:31
  not
• 13:31
  managing.
• 13:31
  The
• 13:32
  other
• 13:32
  things
• 13:32
  you
• 13:33
  see
• 13:33
  that
• 13:33
  I
• 13:33
  get
• 13:34
  into,
• 13:34
  which
• 13:35
  is
• 13:35
  that
• 13:35
  the
• 13:35
  beloved
• 13:36
  is
• 13:36
  not
• 13:36
  just
• 13:37
  love.
• 13:38
  Love
• 13:38
  serves
• 13:39
  the
• 13:39
  beloved.
• 13:39
  Love
• 13:40
  is
• 13:40
  the
• 13:40
  way
• 13:40
  to
• 13:41
  the
• 13:41
  beloved.
• 13:41
  The
• 13:42
  beloved
• 13:42
  is
• 13:43
  the
• 13:44
  deepest
• 13:45
  non
• 13:46
  dual
• 13:46
  truth
• 13:46
  we
• 13:47
  can
• 13:47
  experience.
• 13:47
  Because
• 13:48
  that's
• 13:48
  another
• 13:49
  thing
• 13:49
  we
• 13:50
  hear
• 13:50
  that
• 13:51
  these
• 13:51
  books
• 13:52
  show,
• 13:52
  especially
• 13:53
  this
• 13:53
  book,
• 13:54
  that
• 13:54
  when
• 13:54
  we
• 13:54
  talk
• 13:55
  about
• 13:55
  a
• 13:55
  non
• 13:55
  devil
• 13:56
  truth,
• 13:56
  we
• 13:56
  don't
• 13:57
  mean
• 13:57
  one
• 13:57
  level,
• 13:57
  but
• 13:58
  there
• 13:58
  are
• 13:58
  dimensions
• 13:59
  of
• 13:59
  it,
• 13:59
  manifestation
• 14:00
  of
• 14:01
  it.
• 14:02
  So
• 14:02
  love
• 14:02
  is
• 14:02
  one
• 14:03
  of
• 14:03
  them.
• 14:03
  That's
• 14:03
  why
• 14:04
  I
• 14:04
  call
• 14:04
  the
• 14:04
  book
• 14:04
  non
• 14:04
  dual
• 14:05
  love.
• 14:05
  Because
• 14:06
  that
• 14:07
  experience
• 14:07
  of
• 14:08
  love.
• 14:09
  Experience
• 14:10
  is
• 14:10
  non
• 14:10
  dual.
• 14:10
  Nothing
• 14:11
  is
• 14:11
  separate
• 14:11
  from
• 14:11
  anything
• 14:12
  else.
• 14:12
  The
• 14:12
  subject
• 14:13
  and
• 14:13
  object
• 14:13
  are
• 14:14
  not
• 14:14
  separate.
• 14:16
  Here
• 14:17
  is
• 14:17
  not
• 14:18
  the
• 14:18
  movement
• 14:18
  of
• 14:19
  the
• 14:19
  heart.
• 14:19
  Though
• 14:20
  the
• 14:20
  bhakti
• 14:21
  is
• 14:21
  not
• 14:21
  our
• 14:22
  love.
• 14:23
  Love
• 14:23
  is
• 14:23
  the
• 14:24
  energy.
• 14:25
  Love
• 14:25
  is
• 14:25
  a
• 14:25
  driving
• 14:26
  force
• 14:27
  toward
• 14:27
  union
• 14:28
  with
• 14:29
  the
• 14:29
  inner
• 14:29
  nature
• 14:30
  which
• 14:31
  through
• 14:31
  the
• 14:31
  heart
• 14:32
  is
• 14:32
  experienced
• 14:33
  as
• 14:33
  a
• 14:33
  beloved
• 14:35
  of
• 14:35
  the
• 14:35
  heart.
• 14:37
  You
• 14:37
  know,
• 14:37
  you
• 14:38
  also
• 14:38
  say
• 14:38
  that
• 14:38
  we
• 14:39
  can
• 14:39
  talk
• 14:39
  about
• 14:39
  these
• 14:40
  ideas
• 14:40
  of
• 14:40
  non
• 14:41
  being
• 14:42
  and
• 14:42
  being
• 14:43
  being
• 14:43
  part
• 14:43
  of
• 14:44
  the
• 14:44
  same
• 14:44
  thing.
• 14:45
  But
• 14:45
  that
• 14:45
  our
• 14:46
  mind
• 14:46
  has
• 14:46
  absolutely
• 14:47
  no
• 14:47
  clue
• 14:47
  actually
• 14:48
  what
• 14:48
  we're
• 14:48
  saying.
• 14:49
  And
• 14:49
  it
• 14:50
  is
• 14:50
  only
• 14:50
  the
• 14:50
  heart
• 14:51
  that
• 14:51
  can
• 14:51
  truly
• 14:53
  understand
• 14:54
  or
• 14:54
  truly
• 14:55
  experience
• 14:55
  the
• 14:56
  mind
• 14:56
  can
• 14:56
  get
• 14:56
  us
• 14:56
  so
• 14:56
  far.
• 14:57
  And
• 14:57
  you
• 14:57
  said
• 14:57
  the
• 14:58
  totally
• 14:58
  expanded
• 14:59
  mind
• 14:59
  gets
• 14:59
  us
• 14:59
  right
• 14:59
  to
• 14:59
  the
• 15:00
  edge.
• 15:00
  But
• 15:00
  when
• 15:00
  it
• 15:01
  comes
• 15:01
  down
• 15:01
  to
• 15:01
  it,
• 15:02
  to
• 15:02
  connect
• 15:02
  with
• 15:02
  that,
• 15:03
  with
• 15:03
  the
• 15:03
  inner
• 15:03
  beloved,
• 15:04
  with
• 15:04
  the
• 15:04
  source,
• 15:05
  it
• 15:05
  has
• 15:06
  to
• 15:06
  happen
• 15:07
  at
• 15:07
  a
• 15:07
  deeper
• 15:07
  level.
• 15:08
  Has
• 15:08
  to
• 15:08
  happen
• 15:08
  through
• 15:09
  the
• 15:09
  heart
• 15:09
  or
• 15:09
  in
• 15:09
  the
• 15:09
  heart.
• 15:11
  That's
• 15:11
  true.
• 15:11
  So
• 15:12
  I'm
• 15:12
  talking
• 15:12
  here
• 15:13
  about
• 15:13
  the
• 15:14
  deepest
• 15:14
  non
• 15:14
  dual
• 15:15
  dimension,
• 15:16
  which
• 15:16
  is
• 15:16
  the
• 15:16
  beloved.
• 15:17
  The
• 15:17
  Neville's
• 15:18
  nondevil
• 15:18
  dimension
• 15:18
  can
• 15:19
  appear
• 15:19
  in
• 15:19
  other
• 15:19
  ways,
• 15:21
  other
• 15:21
  teachings.
• 15:21
  We
• 15:22
  use
• 15:22
  it
• 15:22
  without
• 15:22
  using
• 15:23
  the
• 15:23
  bhakti
• 15:23
  approach
• 15:24
  or
• 15:24
  the
• 15:24
  way
• 15:25
  of
• 15:25
  the
• 15:25
  heart.
• 15:25
  They
• 15:25
  could
• 15:25
  use
• 15:26
  the
• 15:26
  way
• 15:26
  of
• 15:26
  the
• 15:26
  mind,
• 15:27
  different
• 15:27
  ways
• 15:28
  of
• 15:28
  approaching
• 15:29
  it
• 15:29
  and
• 15:29
  experiencing
• 15:30
  it,
• 15:30
  meditation,
• 15:31
  things
• 15:31
  like
• 15:31
  that.
• 15:32
  But
• 15:33
  in
• 15:33
  the
• 15:34
  path
• 15:34
  of
• 15:34
  love,
• 15:35
  the
• 15:35
  path
• 15:35
  of
• 15:35
  heart,
• 15:36
  it
• 15:36
  appears
• 15:37
  in
• 15:37
  a
• 15:37
  different
• 15:37
  way.
• 15:38
  It
• 15:38
  appears
• 15:39
  as
• 15:39
  it
• 15:40
  appears
• 15:40
  in
• 15:41
  the
• 15:41
  heart,
• 15:41
  within
• 15:42
  the
• 15:42
  heart,
• 15:42
  through
• 15:42
  the
• 15:43
  heart
• 15:43
  and
• 15:44
  floods
• 15:44
  the
• 15:44
  universe
• 15:45
  through
• 15:46
  the
• 15:46
  heart.
• 15:47
  Instead
• 15:47
  of
• 15:48
  just
• 15:48
  appearing
• 15:49
  in
• 15:49
  the
• 15:49
  mind
• 15:49
  or
• 15:50
  appearing
• 15:50
  in
• 15:50
  consciousness,
• 15:51
  specifically
• 15:52
  heart
• 15:53
  experience,
• 15:54
  which
• 15:54
  shows
• 15:55
  more
• 15:55
  possibilities
• 15:56
  of
• 15:56
  it
• 15:57
  shows
• 15:57
  more
• 15:58
  of
• 15:58
  its
• 15:58
  typology,
• 15:59
  more
• 16:00
  of
• 16:00
  its
• 16:00
  qualities,
• 16:01
  more
• 16:01
  of
• 16:01
  its
• 16:02
  mystery
• 16:02
  and
• 16:03
  more
• 16:03
  of
• 16:03
  its
• 16:03
  exquisiteness.
• 16:04
  Because
• 16:05
  it's
• 16:05
  seen
• 16:06
  through
• 16:06
  the
• 16:06
  eyes
• 16:07
  of
• 16:07
  love
• 16:08
  like
• 16:08
  it's
• 16:08
  a
• 16:08
  beloved.
• 16:09
  Then,
• 16:10
  you
• 16:10
  know,
• 16:10
  when
• 16:10
  you
• 16:10
  love
• 16:11
  somebody,
• 16:11
  you
• 16:11
  know,
• 16:12
  you
• 16:12
  see
• 16:12
  them
• 16:12
  as
• 16:13
  beautiful,
• 16:13
  you
• 16:13
  see
• 16:13
  them
• 16:14
  as
• 16:14
  wonderful.
• 16:15
  Same
• 16:15
  thing
• 16:16
  here.
• 16:16
  The
• 16:16
  beloved
• 16:17
  is
• 16:17
  seen
• 16:17
  through
• 16:17
  the
• 16:18
  eyes
• 16:18
  of
• 16:18
  love.
• 16:18
  Not
• 16:19
  through
• 16:19
  the
• 16:19
  eye
• 16:20
  of
• 16:20
  consciousness
• 16:20
  or
• 16:21
  mind
• 16:21
  or
• 16:22
  anything
• 16:22
  like
• 16:22
  that,
• 16:23
  but
• 16:23
  through
• 16:23
  the
• 16:23
  heart.
• 16:24
  Because
• 16:24
  that's
• 16:25
  one
• 16:25
  thing
• 16:25
  here
• 16:27
  to
• 16:27
  pay
• 16:28
  attention
• 16:28
  to,
• 16:29
  to
• 16:29
  Recognize
• 16:30
  that
• 16:31
  the
• 16:31
  human
• 16:32
  soul,
• 16:32
  the
• 16:33
  human
• 16:33
  being,
• 16:34
  has
• 16:35
  several
• 16:35
  centers
• 16:36
  of
• 16:36
  operation.
• 16:37
  The
• 16:37
  head
• 16:37
  center,
• 16:38
  the
• 16:38
  heart
• 16:38
  center,
• 16:39
  the
• 16:39
  belly
• 16:39
  center.
• 16:41
  And
• 16:41
  each
• 16:42
  one
• 16:42
  of
• 16:42
  them
• 16:42
  is
• 16:43
  like
• 16:43
  a
• 16:43
  brain,
• 16:44
  a
• 16:44
  spiritual
• 16:44
  brain
• 16:45
  on
• 16:45
  its
• 16:45
  own,
• 16:46
  with
• 16:46
  its
• 16:47
  own
• 16:47
  mode
• 16:47
  of
• 16:48
  experience
• 16:49
  and
• 16:49
  operation.
• 16:50
  And
• 16:50
  the
• 16:50
  heart
• 16:51
  is
• 16:51
  like
• 16:52
  its
• 16:52
  own
• 16:53
  brain.
• 16:53
  The
• 16:54
  heart
• 16:54
  actually
• 16:55
  in
• 16:55
  some
• 16:56
  sense
• 16:56
  is
• 16:56
  several
• 16:57
  centers
• 16:58
  one
• 16:58
  and
• 16:58
  within
• 16:58
  the
• 16:59
  other,
• 16:59
  the
• 17:00
  first
• 17:00
  center
• 17:01
  is
• 17:01
  the
• 17:01
  surface
• 17:02
  of
• 17:02
  it
• 17:02
  is
• 17:03
  what's
• 17:03
  called
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  heart
• 17:04
  chakra.
• 17:05
  The
• 17:05
  deeper
• 17:06
  center
• 17:07
  than
• 17:07
  the
• 17:07
  heart
• 17:08
  chakra
• 17:08
  is
• 17:08
  the
• 17:09
  lataif
• 17:10
  level,
• 17:12
  Sufi
• 17:12
  level
• 17:12
  of
• 17:13
  the
• 17:13
  Lataiev.
• 17:14
  And
• 17:15
  it's
• 17:15
  called
• 17:16
  Akhfa,
• 17:17
  she's
• 17:18
  most
• 17:18
  hidden.
• 17:19
  And
• 17:19
  then
• 17:20
  a
• 17:20
  third
• 17:20
  level,
• 17:21
  what
• 17:21
  I
• 17:21
  call
• 17:22
  the
• 17:22
  Gurdjivian
• 17:23
  level
• 17:23
  of
• 17:23
  heart,
• 17:24
  which
• 17:24
  is
• 17:25
  the
• 17:25
  deepest
• 17:25
  level,
• 17:25
  which
• 17:26
  is
• 17:26
  function
• 17:27
  as
• 17:27
  a
• 17:27
  whole
• 17:28
  organ
• 17:28
  like
• 17:29
  a
• 17:29
  brain.
• 17:30
  And
• 17:30
  so
• 17:32
  all
• 17:32
  of
• 17:32
  us
• 17:32
  operate
• 17:33
  through
• 17:33
  all
• 17:33
  of
• 17:33
  these
• 17:34
  things,
• 17:34
  whether
• 17:34
  we
• 17:35
  know
• 17:35
  it
• 17:35
  or
• 17:35
  not.
• 17:36
  As
• 17:36
  you
• 17:36
  know,
• 17:36
  some
• 17:37
  people
• 17:37
  are
• 17:37
  more
• 17:37
  heartful
• 17:38
  than
• 17:38
  others,
• 17:38
  some
• 17:38
  people
• 17:38
  are
• 17:39
  more
• 17:39
  minority
• 17:39
  than
• 17:40
  others,
• 17:40
  some
• 17:40
  people
• 17:40
  are
• 17:40
  more
• 17:41
  physical
• 17:41
  than
• 17:41
  others.
• 17:42
  So
• 17:43
  we
• 17:43
  all
• 17:43
  have
• 17:43
  these
• 17:44
  three
• 17:45
  centers
• 17:45
  of
• 17:46
  operation.
• 17:47
  And
• 17:47
  the
• 17:47
  heart
• 17:48
  is
• 17:48
  one
• 17:48
  of
• 17:48
  those
• 17:49
  centers.
• 17:49
  And
• 17:50
  it
• 17:50
  is
• 17:50
  like
• 17:50
  a
• 17:51
  dynamic
• 17:52
  organ
• 17:52
  of
• 17:53
  experience.
• 17:54
  And
• 17:54
  when
• 17:54
  it
• 17:54
  comes
• 17:55
  to
• 17:55
  spiritual
• 17:56
  realization,
• 17:57
  it
• 17:57
  adds
• 17:58
  the
• 17:58
  sweetness
• 17:59
  and
• 17:59
  the
• 17:59
  passion
• 18:00
  of
• 18:00
  love,
• 18:01
  which
• 18:01
  is,
• 18:02
  it
• 18:02
  adds
• 18:02
  other
• 18:02
  dimension
• 18:03
  to
• 18:03
  experiencing
• 18:05
  our
• 18:05
  inner
• 18:05
  realization.
• 18:08
  And
• 18:08
  amid.
• 18:09
  You
• 18:09
  alluded
• 18:10
  very
• 18:10
  briefly
• 18:11
  to
• 18:11
  love
• 18:12
  as
• 18:12
  a
• 18:12
  motivator,
• 18:13
  but
• 18:14
  it
• 18:14
  seems
• 18:14
  like
• 18:15
  this
• 18:15
  is
• 18:15
  a
• 18:15
  really
• 18:16
  central
• 18:17
  concept
• 18:18
  and
• 18:18
  dynamic
• 18:18
  in
• 18:19
  this
• 18:19
  trilogy
• 18:20
  as
• 18:20
  you
• 18:21
  and
• 18:21
  that
• 18:22
  love,
• 18:23
  and
• 18:23
  particularly
• 18:24
  initially
• 18:25
  anyway,
• 18:26
  and
• 18:26
  to
• 18:26
  some
• 18:27
  degree,
• 18:27
  it
• 18:27
  seems
• 18:28
  like
• 18:28
  almost
• 18:28
  throughout
• 18:29
  most
• 18:29
  of
• 18:29
  the
• 18:29
  path,
• 18:30
  the
• 18:31
  sense
• 18:31
  of
• 18:31
  love
• 18:32
  as
• 18:32
  a
• 18:32
  dynamic
• 18:33
  and
• 18:33
  the
• 18:33
  discontent
• 18:35
  that
• 18:35
  comes
• 18:36
  from
• 18:36
  it
• 18:37
  not
• 18:37
  being
• 18:37
  fulfilled
• 18:39
  seems
• 18:39
  like
• 18:39
  one
• 18:40
  of
• 18:40
  the
• 18:40
  most
• 18:40
  you
• 18:41
  point
• 18:41
  to
• 18:41
  as
• 18:41
  a
• 18:41
  really
• 18:42
  powerful
• 18:43
  psychological
• 18:44
  and
• 18:44
  spiritual
• 18:45
  and
• 18:46
  self
• 18:46
  transcending
• 18:47
  dynamic.
• 18:48
  Yeah,
• 18:48
  I
• 18:49
  mean
• 18:49
  really
• 18:49
  the
• 18:50
  spiritual
• 18:51
  urge
• 18:52
  is
• 18:52
  more
• 18:53
  from
• 18:53
  the
• 18:53
  heart
• 18:53
  than
• 18:54
  anywhere
• 18:54
  else.
• 18:55
  Although
• 18:56
  some
• 18:56
  people
• 18:56
  can
• 18:57
  feel
• 18:57
  it
• 18:57
  more
• 18:57
  in
• 18:58
  the
• 18:58
  mind,
• 18:58
  like
• 18:59
  curiosity,
• 19:00
  wanting
• 19:00
  to
• 19:01
  know,
• 19:01
  wanting
• 19:02
  enlightenment
• 19:03
  or
• 19:03
  something.
• 19:04
  I
• 19:05
  want
• 19:05
  freedom
• 19:06
  from
• 19:06
  suffering.
• 19:08
  There's
• 19:08
  always
• 19:08
  love
• 19:09
  in
• 19:09
  it.
• 19:09
  Why
• 19:09
  do
• 19:09
  you
• 19:10
  want
• 19:10
  freedom
• 19:10
  from
• 19:10
  suffering
• 19:11
  if
• 19:11
  you
• 19:11
  don't
• 19:11
  love
• 19:11
  yourself?
• 19:13
  So
• 19:13
  love
• 19:13
  is
• 19:13
  implicit
• 19:14
  in
• 19:14
  all
• 19:15
  the
• 19:15
  motives
• 19:16
  for
• 19:17
  motivation
• 19:18
  for
• 19:19
  the
• 19:19
  inner
• 19:20
  journey
• 19:20
  and
• 19:21
  become
• 19:21
  much
• 19:22
  more
• 19:22
  explicit,
• 19:23
  much
• 19:23
  more
• 19:24
  magnified,
• 19:25
  highlighted,
• 19:27
  like
• 19:27
  more
• 19:27
  three
• 19:28
  dimensional,
• 19:30
  palpable
• 19:32
  when
• 19:32
  we
• 19:32
  experience
• 19:33
  it
• 19:33
  through
• 19:33
  the
• 19:34
  heart
• 19:34
  directly.
• 19:35
  Because
• 19:36
  love
• 19:36
  is
• 19:36
  really,
• 19:37
  I
• 19:37
  mean,
• 19:37
  it's
• 19:38
  implicit
• 19:38
  in
• 19:39
  all
• 19:39
  approaches
• 19:40
  to
• 19:40
  spiritual
• 19:41
  work,
• 19:41
  but
• 19:42
  it
• 19:42
  can
• 19:42
  become
• 19:42
  very
• 19:43
  explicit
• 19:43
  as
• 19:44
  wanting
• 19:44
  to
• 19:44
  know
• 19:44
  truth
• 19:45
  because
• 19:45
  you
• 19:45
  love
• 19:45
  it,
• 19:46
  wanting
• 19:46
  freedom
• 19:47
  because
• 19:47
  you
• 19:47
  love
• 19:48
  it.
• 19:49
  You
• 19:49
  know,
• 19:50
  it's
• 19:50
  not
• 19:50
  like
• 19:51
  we
• 19:51
  want
• 19:51
  freedom
• 19:52
  because
• 19:52
  we
• 19:53
  want
• 19:53
  to
• 19:53
  be
• 19:53
  free.
• 19:53
  That
• 19:54
  is
• 19:54
  true,
• 19:55
  but
• 19:55
  people
• 19:56
  love
• 19:56
  to
• 19:56
  be
• 19:56
  free.
• 19:58
  It's
• 19:58
  not
• 19:58
  only
• 19:59
  they
• 19:59
  want
• 19:59
  to
• 20:00
  feel
• 20:00
  freedom,
• 20:00
  they
• 20:00
  love
• 20:01
  the
• 20:01
  freedom
• 20:01
  without
• 20:02
  the
• 20:02
  freedom,
• 20:02
  they
• 20:02
  are
• 20:02
  unhappy,
• 20:04
  the
• 20:04
  same
• 20:05
  thing
• 20:05
  with
• 20:05
  them.
• 20:06
  So
• 20:06
  love
• 20:07
  is
• 20:07
  always
• 20:08
  there.
• 20:08
  But
• 20:08
  here
• 20:09
  it
• 20:10
  becomes
• 20:10
  the
• 20:10
  obvious
• 20:11
  central
• 20:12
  and
• 20:12
  the
• 20:12
  dominant
• 20:13
  and
• 20:14
  the
• 20:14
  most
• 20:14
  explicit
• 20:16
  way,
• 20:17
  motivation,
• 20:18
  drive
• 20:18
  of
• 20:19
  the
• 20:19
  spiritual
• 20:19
  urge
• 20:21
  called
• 20:21
  spiritual
• 20:21
  urge.
• 20:23
  Talk
• 20:23
  about
• 20:24
  Hammer
• 20:25
  Buddha,
• 20:26
  talk
• 20:26
  about
• 20:26
  Bodhicitta,
• 20:27
  which
• 20:27
  is
• 20:27
  the
• 20:27
  thought
• 20:28
  of
• 20:28
  enlightenment.
• 20:30
  All
• 20:30
  of
• 20:30
  these
• 20:31
  I
• 20:31
  think
• 20:31
  have
• 20:31
  heart
• 20:32
  in
• 20:32
  them.
• 20:32
  And
• 20:33
  in
• 20:33
  this
• 20:33
  teaching
• 20:34
  my
• 20:34
  experience,
• 20:35
  love
• 20:35
  has
• 20:36
  been
• 20:36
  the
• 20:37
  force.
• 20:39
  And
• 20:40
  yet
• 20:41
  if
• 20:41
  I
• 20:41
  would
• 20:41
  have
• 20:42
  try
• 20:42
  to
• 20:42
  characterize
• 20:43
  much
• 20:44
  of
• 20:44
  the.
• 20:45
  Of
• 20:45
  the
• 20:45
  diamond
• 20:46
  approach
• 20:46
  from
• 20:46
  the
• 20:47
  whatever
• 20:47
  understanding
• 20:48
  I
• 20:48
  have,
• 20:48
  it
• 20:48
  seems
• 20:49
  like
• 20:49
  it's
• 20:50
  more
• 20:50
  been
• 20:51
  primarily
• 20:52
  a
• 20:52
  path
• 20:52
  of
• 20:53
  awareness.
• 20:54
  And
• 20:55
  now
• 20:55
  you're.
• 20:56
  And
• 20:56
  yes,
• 20:56
  of
• 20:57
  course
• 20:57
  the
• 20:57
  love
• 20:57
  has
• 20:58
  been
• 20:58
  there
• 20:58
  and
• 20:58
  implicit
• 20:59
  but.
• 21:00
  And
• 21:00
  I
• 21:00
  was
• 21:00
  kind
• 21:01
  of
• 21:01
  trying
• 21:01
  to
• 21:01
  feel
• 21:01
  how
• 21:02
  do
• 21:02
  you.
• 21:02
  What's
• 21:03
  the
• 21:03
  connector
• 21:04
  here?
• 21:04
  And
• 21:04
  I
• 21:04
  think
• 21:04
  you
• 21:05
  pointed
• 21:05
  to
• 21:05
  one
• 21:05
  of
• 21:06
  them,
• 21:06
  pointing
• 21:06
  out
• 21:06
  that
• 21:07
  you're.
• 21:07
  The
• 21:07
  central
• 21:09
  practice
• 21:09
  and
• 21:10
  method
• 21:11
  of
• 21:11
  the
• 21:11
  diamond
• 21:11
  approach,
• 21:12
  as
• 21:12
  I
• 21:12
  understand
• 21:12
  it
• 21:13
  is
• 21:13
  inquiry.
• 21:13
  And
• 21:13
  inquiry
• 21:14
  is
• 21:14
  love
• 21:14
  of
• 21:15
  the
• 21:15
  truth.
• 21:15
  Would
• 21:15
  you
• 21:16
  like
• 21:16
  to
• 21:16
  say
• 21:17
  something
• 21:17
  about
• 21:18
  the
• 21:19
  diamond
• 21:19
  approach
• 21:20
  path
• 21:20
  as
• 21:22
  most
• 21:22
  of
• 21:22
  it
• 21:23
  as
• 21:23
  compared
• 21:24
  to
• 21:25
  the
• 21:26
  path
• 21:26
  of
• 21:27
  love
• 21:27
  you're
• 21:27
  laying
• 21:27
  out
• 21:28
  here?
• 21:29
  Yeah,
• 21:30
  and
• 21:30
  that's
• 21:30
  an
• 21:30
  interesting
• 21:31
  question.
• 21:32
  First
• 21:33
  of
• 21:33
  all,
• 21:34
  that
• 21:34
  the
• 21:35
  main
• 21:36
  methodology
• 21:37
  and
• 21:37
  approach
• 21:37
  is
• 21:38
  that
• 21:38
  of
• 21:38
  inquiry.
• 21:39
  Inquiry
• 21:40
  in
• 21:40
  our
• 21:40
  own
• 21:41
  experience.
• 21:42
  We
• 21:42
  inquire
• 21:43
  in
• 21:43
  our
• 21:43
  own
• 21:44
  experience
• 21:44
  because
• 21:45
  we
• 21:45
  want
• 21:45
  to
• 21:46
  know
• 21:46
  what
• 21:46
  the
• 21:46
  truth
• 21:47
  is,
• 21:48
  what
• 21:48
  is
• 21:48
  really
• 21:48
  happening,
• 21:50
  what's
• 21:50
  it
• 21:50
  about,
• 21:51
  what
• 21:52
  is
• 21:52
  it,
• 21:52
  where
• 21:52
  does
• 21:53
  it
• 21:53
  come
• 21:53
  from?
• 21:54
  And
• 21:56
  it
• 21:57
  doesn't
• 21:57
  go
• 21:57
  very
• 21:58
  far.
• 21:58
  There
• 21:58
  isn't
• 21:59
  love
• 22:00
  loving
• 22:01
  to
• 22:01
  know
• 22:01
  the
• 22:02
  truth.
• 22:02
  And
• 22:02
  to
• 22:02
  know
• 22:03
  the
• 22:03
  truth,
• 22:03
  I
• 22:03
  say
• 22:03
  it
• 22:04
  from
• 22:04
  the
• 22:04
  beginning.
• 22:05
  It
• 22:05
  has
• 22:05
  to
• 22:05
  be
• 22:06
  loving
• 22:06
  to
• 22:07
  know
• 22:07
  the
• 22:07
  truth
• 22:08
  for
• 22:08
  itself.
• 22:09
  Not
• 22:09
  for
• 22:09
  any
• 22:10
  reason,
• 22:11
  not
• 22:11
  for
• 22:11
  any
• 22:12
  accident.
• 22:13
  Not
• 22:13
  like
• 22:14
  I
• 22:14
  want
• 22:14
  to
• 22:14
  know
• 22:14
  the
• 22:14
  truth
• 22:15
  to
• 22:15
  be
• 22:15
  liberated.
• 22:16
  Not
• 22:17
  like
• 22:17
  I
• 22:17
  want
• 22:17
  to
• 22:17
  know
• 22:18
  the
• 22:18
  truth
• 22:18
  to
• 22:18
  be
• 22:18
  free
• 22:19
  from
• 22:19
  suffering.
• 22:20
  No,
• 22:20
  I
• 22:20
  just
• 22:20
  want
• 22:21
  to
• 22:21
  know
• 22:21
  the
• 22:21
  truth,
• 22:22
  simple.
• 22:23
  And
• 22:23
  the
• 22:23
  truth
• 22:24
  just
• 22:24
  keeps
• 22:24
  getting
• 22:25
  deeper
• 22:25
  and
• 22:25
  deeper
• 22:26
  and
• 22:26
  deeper
• 22:28
  until
• 22:28
  it
• 22:28
  become
• 22:29
  the
• 22:29
  most
• 22:29
  fondant,
• 22:30
  mundane
• 22:31
  truth.
• 22:31
  Because
• 22:31
  we
• 22:32
  want
• 22:32
  to
• 22:32
  know
• 22:32
  the
• 22:32
  truth.
• 22:33
  I
• 22:33
  mean
• 22:33
  Ramana
• 22:33
  Maharshi
• 22:34
  says
• 22:35
  his
• 22:35
  question
• 22:36
  is
• 22:36
  who
• 22:36
  am
• 22:36
  I?
• 22:37
  My
• 22:38
  question
• 22:38
  is
• 22:38
  what
• 22:39
  is
• 22:39
  the
• 22:39
  truth?
• 22:41
  Myself
• 22:42
  and
• 22:42
  everybody
• 22:43
  else
• 22:43
  you
• 22:44
  know,
• 22:44
  so.
• 22:45
  And
• 22:45
  they're
• 22:45
  both
• 22:46
  expression
• 22:46
  of
• 22:46
  love.
• 22:48
  And
• 22:48
  the
• 22:49
  thing
• 22:49
  about
• 22:50
  the
• 22:50
  path
• 22:50
  of
• 22:50
  love
• 22:50
  too
• 22:51
  is
• 22:51
  that
• 22:52
  I
• 22:52
  mean
• 22:54
  it
• 22:54
  through
• 22:54
  that
• 22:55
  approach
• 22:56
  is
• 22:56
  inquiry,
• 22:57
  which
• 22:57
  is
• 22:58
  understanding
• 22:59
  our
• 22:59
  experience.
• 23:00
  But
• 23:01
  to
• 23:01
  understand
• 23:01
  you
• 23:02
  have
• 23:02
  to
• 23:02
  feel
• 23:02
  it.
• 23:04
  So
• 23:04
  you
• 23:04
  have
• 23:05
  to
• 23:05
  feel
• 23:05
  it,
• 23:05
  experience
• 23:06
  it.
• 23:06
  So
• 23:06
  the
• 23:06
  heart
• 23:06
  is
• 23:07
  already
• 23:07
  there
• 23:07
  in
• 23:08
  the
• 23:08
  very
• 23:08
  from
• 23:09
  the
• 23:09
  beginning.
• 23:09
  Without
• 23:10
  heart
• 23:10
  there
• 23:11
  is
• 23:11
  no
• 23:11
  true
• 23:11
  inquiry.
• 23:12
  When
• 23:13
  I
• 23:13
  say
• 23:13
  inquiry,
• 23:14
  I
• 23:14
  don't
• 23:14
  mean
• 23:14
  inquiry
• 23:15
  into
• 23:15
  facts,
• 23:16
  I
• 23:16
  mean
• 23:16
  inquiry
• 23:17
  into
• 23:17
  experience.
• 23:18
  And
• 23:18
  experience
• 23:19
  is
• 23:19
  mostly
• 23:20
  is
• 23:20
  that
• 23:20
  of
• 23:20
  the
• 23:21
  heart
• 23:21
  really.
• 23:22
  The
• 23:22
  heart
• 23:22
  is
• 23:22
  not
• 23:22
  involved.
• 23:23
  Experience
• 23:23
  is
• 23:24
  not
• 23:24
  complete.
• 23:24
  It's
• 23:25
  not
• 23:25
  deep.
• 23:26
  You
• 23:26
  also
• 23:26
  mentioned,
• 23:27
  Hameed,
• 23:27
  how
• 23:29
  there's
• 23:29
  a
• 23:29
  deep
• 23:30
  longing
• 23:30
  for
• 23:31
  the
• 23:31
  inner
• 23:31
  beloved,
• 23:32
  that
• 23:33
  this
• 23:33
  involves
• 23:33
  not
• 23:34
  just.
• 23:34
  Not
• 23:35
  just
• 23:35
  truth,
• 23:35
  as
• 23:35
  we
• 23:35
  would
• 23:36
  think
• 23:36
  as
• 23:36
  an
• 23:36
  intellectual
• 23:37
  process,
• 23:37
  but
• 23:38
  as
• 23:38
  a
• 23:39
  true
• 23:39
  hunger
• 23:40
  that
• 23:40
  could
• 23:40
  be
• 23:41
  even
• 23:41
  painful,
• 23:42
  that
• 23:44
  we
• 23:44
  want
• 23:45
  to
• 23:45
  find
• 23:46
  this
• 23:46
  inner
• 23:46
  beloved
• 23:47
  as
• 23:47
  the
• 23:48
  most
• 23:48
  important
• 23:48
  thing
• 23:48
  there
• 23:48
  is.
• 23:49
  And
• 23:50
  you
• 23:50
  said
• 23:50
  that
• 23:50
  Rumi's
• 23:51
  poetry,
• 23:52
  I
• 23:52
  guess
• 23:52
  after
• 23:53
  Sham
• 23:53
  Left
• 23:54
  Right,
• 23:54
  it
• 23:54
  broke
• 23:55
  his
• 23:55
  heart.
• 23:56
  And
• 23:56
  then
• 23:56
  he
• 23:57
  would
• 23:57
  talk
• 23:57
  about
• 23:57
  this
• 23:57
  deep
• 23:58
  yearning.
• 23:58
  And
• 23:59
  then
• 23:59
  sometimes
• 23:59
  he'd
• 23:59
  be
• 23:59
  talking
• 24:00
  from
• 24:00
  the
• 24:00
  direct
• 24:01
  experience
• 24:02
  of
• 24:02
  being
• 24:02
  there
• 24:02
  in
• 24:02
  it.
• 24:03
  Whereas
• 24:03
  poetry
• 24:04
  came
• 24:04
  some.
• 24:04
  So
• 24:04
  can
• 24:05
  you
• 24:05
  talk
• 24:05
  about
• 24:05
  maybe
• 24:06
  some
• 24:06
  of
• 24:06
  that
• 24:06
  painful
• 24:07
  searching
• 24:08
  and
• 24:08
  longing
• 24:09
  that's
• 24:09
  there
• 24:09
  in
• 24:10
  the
• 24:10
  heart
• 24:10
  as
• 24:10
  we.
• 24:10
  As
• 24:11
  we
• 24:11
  search
• 24:11
  for
• 24:11
  the
• 24:11
  inner
• 24:12
  beloved?
• 24:12
  The
• 24:13
  path
• 24:13
  of
• 24:13
  the
• 24:13
  heart
• 24:14
  is
• 24:15
  full
• 24:15
  of
• 24:15
  aches,
• 24:17
  heartache,
• 24:19
  because
• 24:19
  it's
• 24:20
  all
• 24:20
  about
• 24:22
  being
• 24:22
  one
• 24:22
  with
• 24:23
  what
• 24:23
  we
• 24:23
  feel
• 24:23
  separate
• 24:24
  from.
• 24:25
  So
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  discontent
• 24:28
  that
• 24:28
  Raja
• 24:29
  talked
• 24:29
  about,
• 24:29
  we
• 24:30
  recognize
• 24:30
  at
• 24:30
  some
• 24:31
  point
• 24:31
  is
• 24:31
  a
• 24:32
  question
• 24:32
  of
• 24:32
  separation,
• 24:33
  of
• 24:34
  not
• 24:34
  being
• 24:34
  one
• 24:34
  with.
• 24:35
  With
• 24:36
  our
• 24:36
  true
• 24:36
  nature,
• 24:37
  which
• 24:37
  through
• 24:38
  the
• 24:38
  heart
• 24:39
  means
• 24:39
  what
• 24:39
  we
• 24:40
  love
• 24:40
  most.
• 24:43
  And
• 24:44
  so
• 24:44
  that
• 24:44
  separation,
• 24:45
  the
• 24:45
  more
• 24:45
  we
• 24:46
  feel
• 24:46
  that
• 24:46
  separation,
• 24:47
  the
• 24:47
  more
• 24:48
  painful
• 24:48
  it
• 24:48
  is
• 24:50
  because
• 24:50
  the
• 24:50
  separation
• 24:51
  becomes
• 24:51
  like
• 24:51
  an
• 24:51
  agony
• 24:52
  for
• 24:52
  the
• 24:53
  person
• 24:53
  who's
• 24:54
  following
• 24:54
  the
• 24:54
  path
• 24:54
  of
• 24:55
  the
• 24:55
  heart.
• 24:56
  It's
• 24:56
  like
• 24:57
  longing.
• 24:57
  There's
• 24:58
  separation,
• 24:59
  there's
• 24:59
  pain,
• 25:00
  there's
• 25:02
  grief.
• 25:03
  And
• 25:03
  in
• 25:03
  the
• 25:03
  book,
• 25:04
  I
• 25:04
  go
• 25:04
  through
• 25:04
  the
• 25:05
  different
• 25:05
  chapters
• 25:05
  and
• 25:06
  different
• 25:06
  stages,
• 25:07
  different
• 25:07
  ways.
• 25:08
  The
• 25:09
  path
• 25:09
  of
• 25:09
  the
• 25:09
  heart
• 25:10
  manifests
• 25:11
  and
• 25:11
  interesting.
• 25:12
  You
• 25:12
  know,
• 25:12
  in
• 25:12
  my
• 25:13
  experience,
• 25:14
  and
• 25:14
  usually
• 25:15
  in
• 25:15
  my
• 25:15
  experience,
• 25:16
  in
• 25:16
  my
• 25:17
  process,
• 25:18
  I
• 25:19
  had
• 25:19
  many
• 25:19
  threads
• 25:20
  happening
• 25:20
  at
• 25:20
  the
• 25:20
  same
• 25:21
  time.
• 25:22
  The
• 25:22
  thread
• 25:22
  of
• 25:22
  wanting
• 25:23
  to
• 25:23
  know
• 25:23
  the
• 25:23
  truth
• 25:24
  and
• 25:24
  the
• 25:25
  thread
• 25:25
  of
• 25:26
  understanding,
• 25:27
  the
• 25:27
  thread
• 25:27
  of
• 25:28
  finding
• 25:29
  out
• 25:30
  what
• 25:30
  reality
• 25:31
  is
• 25:31
  all
• 25:31
  about.
• 25:32
  But
• 25:32
  there
• 25:32
  was
• 25:33
  a
• 25:33
  little
• 25:33
  thread
• 25:33
  running
• 25:34
  through
• 25:34
  with
• 25:35
  all
• 25:35
  of
• 25:35
  them,
• 25:36
  which
• 25:36
  is
• 25:36
  a
• 25:36
  thread
• 25:37
  of
• 25:37
  knowing
• 25:38
  what
• 25:38
  is
• 25:38
  the
• 25:38
  inner
• 25:39
  beloved.
• 25:39
  So
• 25:39
  it
• 25:40
  wasn't
• 25:40
  like
• 25:40
  I
• 25:41
  was
• 25:41
  from
• 25:41
  the
• 25:41
  beginning
• 25:41
  wanting
• 25:42
  the
• 25:42
  inner
• 25:42
  beloved.
• 25:43
  I
• 25:43
  didn't
• 25:43
  know
• 25:43
  I
• 25:43
  wanted
• 25:44
  the
• 25:44
  inner
• 25:44
  beloved.
• 25:45
  It
• 25:45
  became
• 25:45
  clear
• 25:46
  at
• 25:46
  some
• 25:46
  point,
• 25:47
  oh,
• 25:47
  I'm
• 25:47
  estranged
• 25:48
  from
• 25:48
  the
• 25:49
  beloved
• 25:49
  of
• 25:49
  the
• 25:49
  heart.
• 25:50
  And
• 25:50
  when
• 25:50
  Tina
• 25:51
  tra.
• 25:51
  The
• 25:51
  thread
• 25:52
  had
• 25:52
  become
• 25:52
  stronger
• 25:53
  at
• 25:53
  some
• 25:53
  point,
• 25:53
  until
• 25:54
  it
• 25:54
  became
• 25:54
  the
• 25:54
  dominant
• 25:55
  thing
• 25:56
  for
• 25:56
  a
• 25:56
  while,
• 25:57
  until
• 25:57
  it
• 25:57
  culminated,
• 25:58
  until
• 25:58
  it
• 25:59
  completed
• 25:59
  itself.
• 26:00
  And
• 26:01
  no
• 26:01
  other
• 26:01
  loves
• 26:02
  can
• 26:02
  come
• 26:02
  before
• 26:04
  this
• 26:04
  search,
• 26:05
  this
• 26:06
  quest
• 26:06
  for
• 26:06
  to
• 26:07
  know
• 26:07
  the
• 26:07
  inner
• 26:07
  beloved.
• 26:08
  No,
• 26:09
  we
• 26:09
  have
• 26:09
  many
• 26:09
  loves.
• 26:10
  I
• 26:10
  mean,
• 26:12
  first
• 26:12
  of
• 26:12
  all,
• 26:12
  we
• 26:13
  have
• 26:13
  our.
• 26:13
  I
• 26:14
  mean,
• 26:14
  that's
• 26:14
  what
• 26:14
  the
• 26:14
  book
• 26:14
  goes
• 26:15
  through.
• 26:15
  We
• 26:15
  have
• 26:16
  our
• 26:16
  usual
• 26:16
  love,
• 26:17
  loving
• 26:18
  people,
• 26:18
  family,
• 26:19
  friend,
• 26:20
  loving
• 26:21
  thing,
• 26:22
  loving
• 26:22
  your
• 26:22
  cell
• 26:23
  phone,
• 26:23
  loving
• 26:24
  your
• 26:24
  car.
• 26:25
  All
• 26:25
  these
• 26:26
  are
• 26:26
  loves.
• 26:26
  And
• 26:27
  your
• 26:27
  favorite
• 26:28
  dessert,
• 26:29
  your
• 26:29
  loving
• 26:30
  the
• 26:31
  sport.
• 26:31
  You're
• 26:31
  loving
• 26:32
  sex,
• 26:32
  you're
• 26:33
  loving,
• 26:33
  you
• 26:33
  know,
• 26:34
  entertainment.
• 26:36
  All
• 26:36
  these
• 26:36
  are
• 26:36
  expression
• 26:37
  of
• 26:37
  love.
• 26:37
  All
• 26:38
  these
• 26:38
  involve
• 26:39
  love,
• 26:39
  but
• 26:40
  at
• 26:40
  some
• 26:40
  point
• 26:40
  become
• 26:41
  Clear
• 26:42
  if
• 26:42
  we
• 26:42
  are
• 26:42
  following
• 26:43
  the
• 26:43
  path
• 26:43
  of
• 26:43
  love.
• 26:44
  If
• 26:44
  the
• 26:45
  path
• 26:45
  of
• 26:46
  love
• 26:46
  opens
• 26:46
  up
• 26:47
  more
• 26:47
  strongly
• 26:49
  begin
• 26:49
  to
• 26:49
  dominate.
• 26:50
  That
• 26:50
  all
• 26:51
  of
• 26:51
  these
• 26:52
  are
• 26:52
  partial,
• 26:53
  they
• 26:54
  are
• 26:54
  cannot
• 26:55
  bring
• 26:55
  complete
• 26:56
  satisfaction.
• 26:57
  None
• 26:58
  of
• 26:58
  them
• 26:58
  will
• 26:58
  lead
• 26:58
  to
• 26:59
  the
• 26:59
  full
• 26:59
  satisfaction
• 27:00
  of
• 27:00
  the
• 27:00
  heart.
• 27:01
  And
• 27:02
  I
• 27:02
  was
• 27:02
  experiencing
• 27:03
  that
• 27:03
  over
• 27:03
  and
• 27:04
  over
• 27:04
  again,
• 27:05
  you
• 27:05
  know.
• 27:05
  And
• 27:06
  everybody
• 27:06
  will
• 27:06
  experience
• 27:07
  that.
• 27:07
  You
• 27:07
  can
• 27:08
  never
• 27:08
  have
• 27:09
  complete
• 27:10
  contentment
• 27:10
  satisfaction
• 27:11
  by
• 27:12
  any
• 27:12
  of
• 27:12
  those
• 27:13
  what
• 27:13
  I
• 27:14
  call
• 27:14
  worldly
• 27:14
  loves.
• 27:15
  Including
• 27:17
  of
• 27:17
  not
• 27:17
  only
• 27:18
  worldly
• 27:18
  love,
• 27:18
  even
• 27:19
  inner
• 27:19
  experiences
• 27:20
  people
• 27:21
  can
• 27:21
  experience,
• 27:22
  you
• 27:22
  know,
• 27:22
  presence,
• 27:23
  experience
• 27:24
  light
• 27:24
  and
• 27:25
  light
• 27:26
  consciousness
• 27:27
  and
• 27:27
  all
• 27:27
  the
• 27:28
  way
• 27:28
  to
• 27:28
  pure
• 27:28
  awareness
• 27:29
  and
• 27:29
  consciousness.
• 27:32
  It
• 27:32
  doesn't
• 27:33
  bring
• 27:33
  the
• 27:33
  total
• 27:34
  kind
• 27:34
  of
• 27:34
  satisfying
• 27:35
  contentment
• 27:36
  and
• 27:36
  talk
• 27:36
  about
• 27:37
  that's
• 27:37
  possible
• 27:38
  from
• 27:39
  being
• 27:39
  one
• 27:39
  with
• 27:39
  the
• 27:40
  inner
• 27:40
  beloved
• 27:42
  like
• 27:42
  that.
• 27:42
  There's
• 27:43
  a
• 27:43
  kind
• 27:43
  of
• 27:43
  contentment
• 27:44
  the
• 27:44
  heart
• 27:44
  knows
• 27:45
  it's
• 27:45
  missing.
• 27:46
  And
• 27:46
  I
• 27:47
  mean
• 27:47
  that
• 27:47
  is
• 27:47
  part
• 27:48
  of
• 27:48
  the
• 27:48
  guidance
• 27:48
  the
• 27:49
  heart
• 27:49
  knows,
• 27:49
  begin
• 27:50
  to
• 27:50
  know,
• 27:51
  begin
• 27:51
  to
• 27:51
  wake
• 27:51
  up
• 27:51
  and
• 27:52
  recognize.
• 27:53
  The
• 27:53
  contentment
• 27:54
  is
• 27:54
  not
• 27:54
  going
• 27:54
  to
• 27:54
  come
• 27:54
  from
• 27:55
  all
• 27:55
  the
• 27:55
  things
• 27:55
  I
• 27:55
  love.
• 27:56
  Not
• 27:57
  going
• 27:57
  to
• 27:57
  come
• 27:57
  from
• 27:57
  focusing
• 27:58
  in
• 27:58
  one
• 27:58
  thing
• 27:59
  I
• 27:59
  love
• 27:59
  in
• 28:00
  this
• 28:00
  world.
• 28:01
  A
• 28:01
  person
• 28:02
  or
• 28:02
  a
• 28:02
  thing
• 28:02
  or
• 28:03
  an
• 28:03
  activity.
• 28:04
  And
• 28:04
  then
• 28:05
  there
• 28:05
  is
• 28:05
  an
• 28:05
  inner
• 28:06
  turn
• 28:06
  that
• 28:06
  become
• 28:07
  no
• 28:08
  wake
• 28:08
  up.
• 28:09
  That
• 28:09
  thing
• 28:09
  that
• 28:10
  will
• 28:10
  satisfy
• 28:11
  most,
• 28:11
  as
• 28:11
  Kabir
• 28:12
  says
• 28:12
  is
• 28:13
  inside.
• 28:14
  But
• 28:15
  once
• 28:15
  that's
• 28:16
  obtained
• 28:17
  that
• 28:17
  realization
• 28:18
  of
• 28:18
  the
• 28:18
  heart
• 28:20
  then
• 28:20
  you
• 28:20
  talk
• 28:20
  about
• 28:20
  you
• 28:21
  can
• 28:21
  go
• 28:21
  back
• 28:21
  into
• 28:22
  the
• 28:22
  world
• 28:23
  and
• 28:23
  be
• 28:23
  part
• 28:23
  of
• 28:24
  the
• 28:24
  world
• 28:24
  and
• 28:24
  love
• 28:25
  all
• 28:25
  these
• 28:25
  things
• 28:25
  you
• 28:26
  love
• 28:27
  not
• 28:27
  instead
• 28:28
  of.
• 28:28
  But
• 28:28
  because
• 28:29
  you
• 28:29
  realize
• 28:30
  the
• 28:30
  love
• 28:30
  is
• 28:31
  a
• 28:31
  source
• 28:31
  of
• 28:32
  everything.
• 28:32
  And
• 28:32
  this
• 28:32
  inner
• 28:33
  beloved
• 28:33
  is
• 28:33
  everything.
• 28:34
  So
• 28:35
  you
• 28:35
  can
• 28:35
  experience
• 28:35
  this
• 28:36
  love
• 28:36
  of
• 28:36
  the
• 28:36
  outer,
• 28:37
  supposedly
• 28:37
  outer
• 28:38
  things
• 28:38
  as
• 28:38
  a
• 28:39
  part
• 28:39
  of
• 28:39
  the
• 28:39
  same
• 28:39
  thing.
• 28:40
  Yeah,
• 28:40
  I
• 28:41
  think
• 28:41
  you
• 28:41
  don't
• 28:42
  want
• 28:42
  to
• 28:42
  scare
• 28:42
  your
• 28:42
  readers.
• 28:43
  That's
• 28:43
  why
• 28:43
  you
• 28:44
  do
• 28:44
  it.
• 28:45
  You
• 28:46
  don't
• 28:46
  want
• 28:46
  to
• 28:46
  say
• 28:46
  you
• 28:46
  have
• 28:47
  to
• 28:48
  abandon,
• 28:48
  give
• 28:49
  up
• 28:49
  all
• 28:49
  these
• 28:49
  things
• 28:50
  only
• 28:50
  for
• 28:51
  the
• 28:51
  inner
• 28:51
  beloved.
• 28:52
  Because
• 28:52
  that's
• 28:53
  true.
• 28:53
  That's
• 28:53
  part
• 28:53
  of
• 28:53
  the
• 28:54
  path.
• 28:55
  Fear.
• 28:56
  Oh
• 28:56
  if
• 28:56
  I
• 28:56
  can't
• 28:57
  give
• 28:57
  up
• 28:57
  these
• 28:57
  love,
• 28:58
  how
• 28:58
  about
• 28:59
  I
• 28:59
  love
• 28:59
  them,
• 28:59
  I'm
• 29:00
  on
• 29:00
  them
• 29:00
  and
• 29:00
  I
• 29:00
  give
• 29:00
  them
• 29:01
  back.
• 29:02
  But
• 29:02
  we
• 29:02
  won't
• 29:03
  know
• 29:04
  even
• 29:05
  if
• 29:05
  we
• 29:05
  say
• 29:05
  it
• 29:06
  now
• 29:06
  when
• 29:06
  the
• 29:07
  process
• 29:07
  happen
• 29:09
  doesn't
• 29:09
  make
• 29:09
  a
• 29:10
  difference.
• 29:11
  You'll
• 29:11
  just
• 29:11
  feel
• 29:12
  you're
• 29:12
  losing
• 29:12
  all
• 29:13
  of
• 29:13
  these
• 29:13
  and
• 29:14
  focusing
• 29:14
  on.
• 29:15
  And
• 29:15
  then
• 29:15
  focus
• 29:15
  at
• 29:16
  some
• 29:16
  point
• 29:16
  become
• 29:17
  what
• 29:17
  is
• 29:17
  desirable,
• 29:19
  what
• 29:19
  is
• 29:20
  right.
• 29:21
  The
• 29:21
  focus
• 29:22
  on
• 29:22
  only
• 29:22
  one
• 29:23
  love
• 29:23
  and
• 29:24
  only
• 29:25
  the
• 29:25
  inner
• 29:26
  beloved
• 29:27
  of
• 29:27
  the
• 29:27
  heart.
• 29:27
  Which
• 29:28
  I
• 29:28
  don't
• 29:28
  see.
• 29:28
  I
• 29:29
  don't
• 29:29
  know.
• 29:29
  You
• 29:29
  don't
• 29:30
  know
• 29:30
  for
• 29:30
  a
• 29:30
  long
• 29:30
  time
• 29:31
  until
• 29:32
  it
• 29:32
  finally
• 29:33
  when
• 29:34
  the
• 29:34
  heart
• 29:34
  is
• 29:34
  completely
• 29:35
  cleansed,
• 29:36
  completely
• 29:36
  emptied
• 29:37
  of
• 29:37
  all
• 29:38
  other
• 29:38
  loves.
• 29:39
  That's
• 29:40
  where
• 29:40
  the
• 29:40
  book
• 29:40
  goes
• 29:40
  into
• 29:41
  details
• 29:41
  out
• 29:42
  the
• 29:42
  path
• 29:42
  of
• 29:42
  love
• 29:43
  is
• 29:43
  emptying
• 29:43
  the
• 29:44
  heart
• 29:45
  of
• 29:45
  all
• 29:46
  other
• 29:46
  loves.
• 29:48
  And
• 29:48
  I
• 29:48
  Call
• 29:49
  that
• 29:49
  polytheism?
• 29:50
  You're
• 29:51
  loving
• 29:51
  many
• 29:52
  gods
• 29:53
  and
• 29:54
  we
• 29:54
  have
• 29:55
  to
• 29:55
  go
• 29:55
  to
• 29:55
  monotheism,
• 29:56
  which
• 29:56
  is
• 29:56
  only
• 29:57
  one.
• 29:58
  And
• 29:58
  you
• 29:58
  don't
• 29:59
  know
• 29:59
  what
• 29:59
  this
• 29:59
  one
• 29:59
  is.
• 30:00
  Only
• 30:00
  the
• 30:01
  heart
• 30:01
  reveals
• 30:01
  it.
• 30:03
  But
• 30:04
  it
• 30:04
  all
• 30:04
  turns
• 30:04
  out
• 30:04
  well
• 30:05
  in
• 30:05
  the
• 30:05
  end.
• 30:06
  And
• 30:07
  then
• 30:07
  of
• 30:07
  course
• 30:08
  you
• 30:08
  will,
• 30:09
  because
• 30:09
  it's
• 30:09
  non
• 30:10
  dual.
• 30:11
  It
• 30:11
  shows
• 30:11
  its
• 30:11
  relationship
• 30:12
  to
• 30:12
  everything
• 30:12
  else
• 30:14
  and
• 30:14
  then
• 30:14
  shows
• 30:15
  that
• 30:15
  when
• 30:15
  we
• 30:16
  are
• 30:17
  one
• 30:17
  with
• 30:18
  the
• 30:18
  beloved,
• 30:18
  the
• 30:19
  beloved
• 30:19
  loves
• 30:19
  everything.
• 30:20
  Can
• 30:21
  I
• 30:21
  read
• 30:21
  a
• 30:21
  verse
• 30:22
  that
• 30:22
  came
• 30:22
  to
• 30:22
  me?
• 30:23
  This
• 30:23
  is
• 30:23
  from
• 30:23
  Luke,
• 30:24
  chapter
• 30:25
  14,
• 30:25
  verse
• 30:26
  26.
• 30:26
  This
• 30:27
  is
• 30:27
  Jesus.
• 30:27
  He
• 30:28
  said,
• 30:28
  if
• 30:28
  any
• 30:29
  man
• 30:29
  come
• 30:29
  to
• 30:29
  me
• 30:30
  and
• 30:30
  hate
• 30:30
  not
• 30:30
  his
• 30:31
  father
• 30:31
  and
• 30:31
  mother
• 30:32
  and
• 30:32
  wife
• 30:32
  and
• 30:33
  children
• 30:33
  and
• 30:33
  brethren
• 30:34
  and
• 30:35
  sisters,
• 30:35
  yea,
• 30:36
  and
• 30:36
  his
• 30:36
  own
• 30:37
  life
• 30:37
  also,
• 30:38
  he
• 30:38
  cannot
• 30:38
  be
• 30:39
  my
• 30:39
  disciple.
• 30:40
  That's
• 30:41
  pretty
• 30:41
  hardcore.
• 30:42
  I
• 30:42
  believe
• 30:43
  what
• 30:43
  you're
• 30:43
  talking
• 30:43
  about.
• 30:44
  Yes,
• 30:44
  he
• 30:45
  understood
• 30:45
  the
• 30:46
  way
• 30:46
  of
• 30:46
  love.
• 30:47
  And
• 30:47
  I
• 30:48
  beloved
• 30:48
  and
• 30:49
  Jesus
• 30:49
  path
• 30:49
  was
• 30:50
  a
• 30:50
  way
• 30:50
  of
• 30:51
  love.
• 30:51
  And
• 30:52
  later
• 30:52
  on
• 30:52
  he
• 30:52
  says,
• 30:52
  if
• 30:53
  a
• 30:53
  man
• 30:53
  forsake
• 30:53
  not
• 30:54
  all
• 30:54
  that
• 30:54
  he
• 30:54
  hath,
• 30:55
  he
• 30:55
  cannot
• 30:56
  be
• 30:56
  my
• 30:56
  disciple.
• 30:57
  So
• 30:57
  he's
• 30:57
  just
• 30:58
  putting
• 30:58
  this
• 30:58
  supremacy
• 31:00
  of
• 31:00
  this
• 31:00
  love
• 31:01
  before
• 31:02
  everything.
• 31:03
  And
• 31:03
  he
• 31:03
  was
• 31:03
  a
• 31:03
  Jew
• 31:03
  talking
• 31:04
  to
• 31:05
  Jews.
• 31:05
  So
• 31:05
  when
• 31:06
  he's
• 31:06
  talking
• 31:06
  about
• 31:06
  your
• 31:06
  mother,
• 31:07
  your
• 31:07
  father,
• 31:07
  your
• 31:07
  sisters,
• 31:08
  your
• 31:08
  brothers,
• 31:08
  I
• 31:08
  mean,
• 31:09
  family
• 31:09
  was
• 31:10
  everything
• 31:10
  for
• 31:10
  them.
• 31:11
  And
• 31:11
  saying
• 31:11
  you
• 31:11
  have,
• 31:11
  it's
• 31:12
  almost
• 31:12
  hate
• 31:13
  by
• 31:13
  comparison
• 31:14
  to
• 31:14
  the
• 31:14
  love
• 31:15
  of
• 31:15
  this
• 31:15
  beloved
• 31:16
  to
• 31:16
  be
• 31:16
  my
• 31:16
  disciple.
• 31:18
  It's
• 31:18
  a
• 31:18
  hard
• 31:18
  saying.
• 31:19
  It
• 31:20
  is
• 31:20
  a
• 31:20
  hard.
• 31:20
  I
• 31:21
  wonder
• 31:21
  whether
• 31:21
  any
• 31:21
  of
• 31:22
  the
• 31:22
  disciples
• 31:22
  did
• 31:22
  it.
• 31:26
  That's
• 31:27
  it.
• 31:27
  Doesn't
• 31:27
  say,
• 31:28
  doesn't
• 31:28
  say
• 31:29
  he
• 31:29
  knew
• 31:30
  it.
• 31:30
  But
• 31:31
  it's
• 31:32
  hard
• 31:32
  and
• 31:33
  difficult
• 31:33
  to
• 31:33
  say
• 31:34
  because
• 31:36
  maybe
• 31:36
  some
• 31:37
  did,
• 31:37
  I
• 31:37
  don't
• 31:37
  know,
• 31:38
  I
• 31:38
  mean,
• 31:38
  I'm.
• 31:38
  I
• 31:39
  not
• 31:40
  privy
• 31:40
  to
• 31:40
  these
• 31:41
  things.
• 31:42
  But
• 31:42
  it
• 31:42
  is
• 31:42
  a
• 31:43
  difficult
• 31:44
  demand
• 31:44
  of
• 31:44
  the
• 31:45
  heart
• 31:46
  because
• 31:46
  it's
• 31:47
  exclusive.
• 31:48
  I
• 31:48
  said,
• 31:49
  and
• 31:50
  I
• 31:50
  beloved
• 31:51
  says,
• 31:52
  none
• 31:53
  will
• 31:53
  do.
• 31:54
  Get
• 31:55
  rid
• 31:55
  of
• 31:55
  all
• 31:55
  of
• 31:55
  them.
• 31:56
  Out
• 31:57
  of
• 31:57
  my
• 31:59
  home,
• 31:59
  my
• 32:00
  house,
• 32:00
  the
• 32:01
  heart,
• 32:02
  everything
• 32:02
  is
• 32:03
  out.
• 32:04
  Had
• 32:04
  to
• 32:05
  be
• 32:05
  completely
• 32:05
  clean,
• 32:06
  empty
• 32:07
  before
• 32:08
  I
• 32:08
  could
• 32:08
  show
• 32:08
  myself.
• 32:09
  Because
• 32:10
  that's
• 32:10
  why
• 32:10
  I
• 32:10
  say
• 32:11
  the
• 32:11
  inner
• 32:12
  beloved
• 32:12
  is
• 32:13
  like
• 32:13
  the
• 32:13
  most
• 32:13
  jealous
• 32:14
  Beloved
• 32:15
  won't
• 32:15
  have
• 32:15
  a
• 32:16
  hint
• 32:16
  of
• 32:16
  anything
• 32:17
  else,
• 32:18
  any
• 32:18
  thought
• 32:19
  of
• 32:19
  anybody
• 32:19
  else,
• 32:20
  anything
• 32:20
  else.
• 32:21
  And
• 32:22
  our
• 32:22
  beloved
• 32:23
  said,
• 32:23
  no,
• 32:24
  I
• 32:24
  won't
• 32:24
  show
• 32:24
  myself.
• 32:25
  It
• 32:25
  has
• 32:25
  to
• 32:25
  be
• 32:26
  100%
• 32:28
  complete
• 32:29
  fidelity.
• 32:30
  And
• 32:31
  that
• 32:31
  is
• 32:31
  what
• 32:31
  I
• 32:32
  had
• 32:32
  to
• 32:32
  go
• 32:32
  through.
• 32:32
  You
• 32:33
  know,
• 32:33
  there
• 32:33
  was
• 32:34
  at
• 32:34
  some
• 32:34
  point,
• 32:34
  the
• 32:34
  experience,
• 32:35
  I
• 32:35
  mean,
• 32:36
  it's
• 32:36
  not
• 32:36
  like
• 32:37
  continuously
• 32:37
  for
• 32:37
  years.
• 32:38
  No,
• 32:39
  There
• 32:39
  was
• 32:39
  a
• 32:39
  gradual
• 32:40
  process
• 32:40
  until
• 32:41
  some
• 32:41
  point
• 32:41
  the
• 32:42
  process
• 32:42
  came.
• 32:42
  The
• 32:43
  heart
• 32:43
  became
• 32:43
  completely
• 32:44
  empty,
• 32:45
  completely
• 32:46
  devoid
• 32:46
  of
• 32:46
  anything
• 32:47
  else
• 32:48
  except
• 32:48
  the
• 32:49
  longing,
• 32:50
  the
• 32:50
  yearning
• 32:51
  for
• 32:51
  the
• 32:51
  inner
• 32:51
  beloved.
• 32:52
  That
• 32:53
  I
• 32:53
  didn't
• 32:53
  know,
• 32:53
  but
• 32:54
  I
• 32:54
  sort
• 32:54
  of
• 32:54
  intuitively
• 32:55
  knew.
• 32:56
  I
• 32:56
  wouldn't
• 32:56
  know
• 32:57
  if
• 32:57
  I
• 32:57
  saw
• 32:57
  it,
• 32:58
  but
• 32:58
  I
• 32:59
  wasn't
• 32:59
  seeing
• 33:00
  until
• 33:01
  at
• 33:01
  Some
• 33:01
  point
• 33:03
  it
• 33:03
  blazed
• 33:04
  out
• 33:04
  and
• 33:05
  amid.
• 33:05
  Was
• 33:05
  there
• 33:05
  a
• 33:06
  certain
• 33:06
  point
• 33:06
  at
• 33:06
  which
• 33:08
  a
• 33:08
  kind
• 33:08
  of
• 33:09
  decision
• 33:10
  that
• 33:11
  okay,
• 33:13
  okay,
• 33:13
  I
• 33:14
  give
• 33:14
  up,
• 33:14
  or
• 33:16
  okay,
• 33:16
  I'm
• 33:16
  going
• 33:17
  to
• 33:17
  do
• 33:17
  it?
• 33:17
  Was
• 33:17
  there
• 33:17
  some
• 33:18
  decision
• 33:18
  point
• 33:18
  or
• 33:19
  was.
• 33:19
  It
• 33:19
  more
• 33:20
  surrender,
• 33:20
  maybe?
• 33:22
  Surrender?
• 33:22
  Yeah.
• 33:23
  Well,
• 33:23
  I
• 33:23
  mean,
• 33:24
  it's.
• 33:24
  You
• 33:24
  can
• 33:25
  say
• 33:25
  both
• 33:25
  are
• 33:25
  involved,
• 33:26
  really.
• 33:27
  It's
• 33:27
  more
• 33:28
  like
• 33:28
  almost
• 33:29
  like
• 33:29
  a
• 33:29
  choice,
• 33:30
  like
• 33:30
  you
• 33:30
  have
• 33:30
  a
• 33:31
  choice,
• 33:32
  but
• 33:32
  it's
• 33:32
  really
• 33:33
  more.
• 33:33
  That's
• 33:34
  why
• 33:34
  the
• 33:35
  way
• 33:35
  of
• 33:36
  inquiry
• 33:37
  is
• 33:37
  useful
• 33:38
  here.
• 33:38
  I'm
• 33:39
  always
• 33:39
  inquiring
• 33:40
  into
• 33:40
  what's
• 33:40
  happening,
• 33:41
  you
• 33:41
  know,
• 33:41
  while
• 33:41
  I'm
• 33:42
  feeling
• 33:42
  the
• 33:43
  pull
• 33:43
  of
• 33:44
  love,
• 33:44
  the
• 33:45
  yearning.
• 33:46
  I'm
• 33:46
  inquiring
• 33:47
  into
• 33:47
  it,
• 33:47
  what's
• 33:48
  happening,
• 33:48
  how
• 33:48
  come
• 33:48
  it's
• 33:49
  not
• 33:49
  showing
• 33:49
  up,
• 33:50
  you
• 33:50
  know,
• 33:50
  and
• 33:50
  that's
• 33:51
  when
• 33:51
  I
• 33:51
  learned
• 33:51
  about
• 33:52
  the
• 33:52
  obstacle
• 33:52
  and
• 33:53
  all
• 33:53
  those
• 33:53
  distractions,
• 33:55
  you
• 33:55
  see.
• 33:55
  So
• 33:56
  there's
• 33:56
  an
• 33:56
  inquiry
• 33:56
  there
• 33:57
  going
• 33:57
  along
• 33:58
  with
• 33:58
  the
• 33:59
  bhakti
• 34:00
  attitude
• 34:01
  of
• 34:02
  the
• 34:02
  yearning,
• 34:03
  loving,
• 34:04
  wanting.
• 34:04
  And
• 34:05
  you
• 34:05
  know,
• 34:06
  Hameed,
• 34:06
  I
• 34:06
  want
• 34:06
  to.
• 34:07
  Just
• 34:07
  draw
• 34:07
  attention
• 34:08
  to
• 34:08
  something
• 34:08
  you
• 34:08
  said
• 34:09
  in
• 34:09
  just
• 34:10
  very
• 34:10
  quickly
• 34:11
  there,
• 34:11
  which
• 34:12
  feels
• 34:12
  really
• 34:12
  important.
• 34:13
  You
• 34:13
  said,
• 34:14
  I'm
• 34:14
  always
• 34:15
  inquiring
• 34:17
  and
• 34:18
  pointing
• 34:19
  to
• 34:19
  the
• 34:19
  sense
• 34:19
  of
• 34:20
  continuity
• 34:21
  of
• 34:21
  practice
• 34:22
  every
• 34:22
  moment,
• 34:23
  inquiry.
• 34:23
  And
• 34:24
  it
• 34:24
  feels
• 34:24
  like
• 34:24
  continuity
• 34:25
  is
• 34:25
  so
• 34:25
  crucial
• 34:26
  no
• 34:26
  matter
• 34:26
  what
• 34:26
  one's
• 34:27
  practiced.
• 34:27
  And
• 34:27
  I
• 34:28
  just
• 34:28
  find
• 34:28
  it
• 34:28
  very
• 34:28
  inspiring
• 34:29
  and
• 34:29
  powerful
• 34:30
  to
• 34:30
  hear
• 34:30
  you
• 34:30
  say
• 34:30
  that.
• 34:31
  In
• 34:31
  every
• 34:32
  moment
• 34:32
  I'm
• 34:32
  inquiring.
• 34:33
  Yeah.
• 34:34
  I
• 34:34
  mean,
• 34:35
  let's
• 34:35
  say
• 34:36
  it's
• 34:36
  not
• 34:36
  necessarily
• 34:37
  I'm
• 34:37
  intentionally
• 34:38
  inquiring
• 34:38
  every
• 34:39
  moment,
• 34:40
  but
• 34:40
  inquiry
• 34:41
  is
• 34:41
  going
• 34:41
  on
• 34:42
  because
• 34:42
  there's
• 34:42
  curiosity
• 34:43
  happening.
• 34:44
  I
• 34:44
  mean,
• 34:45
  at
• 34:45
  the
• 34:45
  present
• 34:46
  time,
• 34:46
  for
• 34:46
  instance,
• 34:47
  I'm
• 34:47
  not
• 34:47
  continuing
• 34:48
  inquiry.
• 34:49
  Inquiry
• 34:49
  happens
• 34:50
  by
• 34:50
  itself
• 34:51
  when
• 34:51
  it
• 34:51
  is
• 34:52
  needed,
• 34:52
  simply
• 34:53
  arises
• 34:54
  before.
• 34:54
  No,
• 34:55
  it
• 34:55
  was
• 34:55
  a
• 34:55
  focus,
• 34:56
  dedication
• 34:57
  and
• 34:58
  commitment
• 34:59
  and
• 35:00
  equally
• 35:01
  shows
• 35:01
  what
• 35:01
  is
• 35:01
  in
• 35:02
  the
• 35:02
  way
• 35:02
  of
• 35:02
  the
• 35:02
  commitment,
• 35:03
  you
• 35:04
  see,
• 35:04
  because
• 35:04
  the
• 35:04
  commitment,
• 35:05
  it's
• 35:06
  not
• 35:06
  just
• 35:06
  a
• 35:06
  decision.
• 35:07
  Your
• 35:07
  heart
• 35:08
  has
• 35:08
  to
• 35:08
  be
• 35:08
  engaged,
• 35:08
  your
• 35:09
  soul
• 35:09
  has
• 35:09
  to
• 35:09
  be
• 35:09
  engaged.
• 35:10
  What's
• 35:10
  making
• 35:11
  them
• 35:11
  not
• 35:11
  be
• 35:11
  engaged?
• 35:12
  You
• 35:13
  can't
• 35:13
  just
• 35:14
  push
• 35:14
  it,
• 35:14
  you
• 35:14
  can't
• 35:15
  just
• 35:15
  force
• 35:15
  it.
• 35:16
  The
• 35:16
  obstacle
• 35:17
  have
• 35:17
  to
• 35:17
  be
• 35:17
  seen
• 35:18
  and
• 35:18
  they
• 35:18
  have
• 35:18
  to
• 35:18
  dissolve.
• 35:20
  That's
• 35:20
  why
• 35:21
  inquiry
• 35:21
  is
• 35:21
  useful.
• 35:22
  You
• 35:22
  know,
• 35:23
  you
• 35:24
  see
• 35:24
  in
• 35:24
  another
• 35:24
  place
• 35:25
  in
• 35:25
  this,
• 35:25
  the
• 35:26
  Inner
• 35:26
  Beloved
• 35:26
  book
• 35:27
  that
• 35:27
  love
• 35:27
  is
• 35:27
  not
• 35:28
  a
• 35:28
  affect,
• 35:28
  it's
• 35:29
  not
• 35:29
  an
• 35:29
  emotion,
• 35:30
  but
• 35:30
  that
• 35:31
  it
• 35:31
  is
• 35:31
  a
• 35:31
  powerful
• 35:32
  force
• 35:33
  that
• 35:33
  draws
• 35:34
  us
• 35:34
  in
• 35:34
  to
• 35:34
  the
• 35:35
  source
• 35:35
  of
• 35:35
  all
• 35:35
  things,
• 35:36
  that
• 35:37
  which
• 35:37
  we
• 35:37
  are
• 35:38
  at
• 35:38
  the
• 35:38
  deepest,
• 35:39
  deepest
• 35:39
  level.
• 35:40
  And
• 35:40
  so
• 35:40
  in
• 35:40
  some
• 35:40
  ways,
• 35:41
  it's
• 35:41
  the
• 35:41
  longing
• 35:42
  must
• 35:42
  be
• 35:43
  met
• 35:43
  by
• 35:43
  this,
• 35:43
  this
• 35:44
  powerful
• 35:44
  force
• 35:44
  that
• 35:45
  brings
• 35:45
  us
• 35:45
  back
• 35:45
  to
• 35:47
  who
• 35:47
  and
• 35:48
  what
• 35:48
  we
• 35:49
  truly
• 35:49
  are
• 35:49
  at
• 35:50
  the
• 35:50
  deepest
• 35:51
  absolute
• 35:51
  level.
• 35:52
  Yes,
• 35:53
  that's
• 35:53
  exactly
• 35:54
  true.
• 35:54
  But
• 35:55
  you
• 35:55
  see,
• 35:55
  there
• 35:55
  is
• 35:55
  longing
• 35:56
  because
• 35:56
  there
• 35:56
  is
• 35:56
  love.
• 35:58
  The
• 35:59
  longing
• 35:59
  is
• 35:59
  an
• 35:59
  expression
• 36:00
  of
• 36:00
  love
• 36:00
  yearning,
• 36:01
  an
• 36:01
  expression
• 36:02
  of
• 36:02
  love.
• 36:03
  The
• 36:03
  Heartache
• 36:04
  is
• 36:04
  an
• 36:04
  expression
• 36:04
  of
• 36:05
  love.
• 36:05
  If
• 36:06
  you
• 36:06
  don't
• 36:06
  have
• 36:06
  love,
• 36:06
  there's
• 36:07
  no
• 36:07
  heartache,
• 36:07
  there's
• 36:08
  no
• 36:08
  yearning.
• 36:09
  Love
• 36:09
  is
• 36:10
  underneath
• 36:10
  all
• 36:11
  of
• 36:11
  these.
• 36:11
  And
• 36:12
  love
• 36:12
  here,
• 36:13
  you
• 36:13
  know,
• 36:13
  it
• 36:14
  begins
• 36:14
  as
• 36:14
  a
• 36:14
  human
• 36:15
  love,
• 36:15
  but
• 36:15
  it
• 36:15
  goes
• 36:16
  deeper
• 36:16
  into
• 36:16
  what
• 36:17
  I
• 36:17
  call
• 36:17
  essential
• 36:17
  love,
• 36:18
  spiritual
• 36:18
  love,
• 36:19
  all
• 36:19
  the
• 36:19
  way
• 36:19
  to
• 36:19
  divine
• 36:20
  love
• 36:20
  and
• 36:21
  moving
• 36:22
  on
• 36:22
  to
• 36:23
  different
• 36:23
  kinds
• 36:23
  of
• 36:24
  love
• 36:24
  that
• 36:24
  I
• 36:24
  mentioned
• 36:25
  before,
• 36:26
  but
• 36:26
  different
• 36:27
  intensities
• 36:28
  and
• 36:28
  depth
• 36:28
  and
• 36:29
  power
• 36:30
  that
• 36:30
  love
• 36:30
  takes.
• 36:31
  And
• 36:31
  I
• 36:32
  equate
• 36:32
  love
• 36:32
  and
• 36:33
  heart
• 36:33
  together,
• 36:33
  because
• 36:34
  light
• 36:34
  is
• 36:34
  the
• 36:35
  function
• 36:35
  of
• 36:35
  the
• 36:35
  heart.
• 36:37
  When
• 36:37
  the
• 36:38
  heart
• 36:38
  is
• 36:38
  really
• 36:38
  active,
• 36:39
  is
• 36:39
  open,
• 36:41
  its
• 36:41
  function
• 36:41
  is
• 36:43
  to
• 36:43
  move
• 36:44
  us
• 36:44
  towards
• 36:44
  the
• 36:44
  inner
• 36:45
  beloved.
• 36:47
  I
• 36:47
  mean,
• 36:47
  the
• 36:47
  heart
• 36:48
  has
• 36:48
  many
• 36:48
  functions.
• 36:49
  It
• 36:49
  feels
• 36:50
  and
• 36:50
  sensitive
• 36:51
  and
• 36:52
  empathic.
• 36:53
  All
• 36:53
  it
• 36:54
  does
• 36:54
  that
• 36:54
  in
• 36:54
  life.
• 36:55
  However,
• 36:55
  during
• 36:56
  the
• 36:56
  inner
• 36:56
  journey,
• 36:57
  it
• 36:57
  is
• 36:58
  a
• 36:58
  force
• 36:59
  that
• 36:59
  takes
• 37:00
  us
• 37:00
  into
• 37:00
  the
• 37:01
  depth.
• 37:03
  Stay
• 37:03
  tuned
• 37:03
  for
• 37:03
  part
• 37:03
  two
• 37:04
  of
• 37:04
  our
• 37:04
  dialogue
• 37:04
  with
• 37:05
  Hameed,
• 37:05
  in
• 37:05
  which
• 37:05
  we
• 37:06
  dive
• 37:06
  into
• 37:06
  the
• 37:06
  passion,
• 37:07
  ecstasy
• 37:08
  and
• 37:08
  challenges
• 37:08
  on
• 37:09
  the
• 37:09
  path
• 37:09
  of
• 37:09
  the
• 37:09
  heart,
• 37:10
  the
• 37:10
  journey
• 37:10
  to
• 37:10
  the
• 37:11
  inner
• 37:11
  beloved.
• 37:12
  Thank
• 37:13
  you
• 37:13
  very
• 37:13
  much
• 37:13
  for
• 37:14
  being
• 37:14
  a
• 37:14
  part
• 37:14
  of
• 37:15
  this
• 37:15
  conversation.
• 37:16
  We
• 37:16
  hope
• 37:16
  that
• 37:16
  you
• 37:17
  were
• 37:17
  moved,
• 37:17
  as
• 37:17
  we
• 37:18
  are
• 37:18
  moved,
• 37:18
  being
• 37:18
  part
• 37:19
  of
• 37:19
  it
• 37:19
  ourselves.
• 37:20
  We'd
• 37:20
  also
• 37:20
  like
• 37:21
  to
• 37:21
  say
• 37:21
  that
• 37:21
  this
• 37:21
  is
• 37:22
  being
• 37:22
  funded
• 37:23
  by
• 37:23
  Roger
• 37:23
  and
• 37:23
  myself.
• 37:24
  It
• 37:24
  comes
• 37:24
  out
• 37:24
  of
• 37:24
  our
• 37:24
  pockets.
• 37:25
  So
• 37:25
  if
• 37:25
  you
• 37:25
  would
• 37:25
  like
• 37:26
  to
• 37:26
  help
• 37:26
  us
• 37:26
  to
• 37:27
  mainly
• 37:28
  to
• 37:28
  get
• 37:28
  this
• 37:28
  podcast
• 37:29
  out
• 37:29
  to
• 37:29
  more
• 37:29
  people,
• 37:30
  because
• 37:30
  the
• 37:30
  bigger
• 37:30
  audience
• 37:31
  have,
• 37:31
  which
• 37:31
  is
• 37:31
  steadily
• 37:32
  growing,
• 37:32
  but
• 37:32
  the
• 37:32
  more
• 37:33
  people
• 37:33
  we
• 37:33
  can
• 37:33
  reach
• 37:33
  and
• 37:33
  the
• 37:34
  more
• 37:34
  marketing
• 37:34
  we
• 37:34
  can
• 37:35
  do,
• 37:35
  the
• 37:35
  more
• 37:35
  positive
• 37:36
  effect
• 37:36
  we
• 37:36
  can
• 37:37
  have
• 37:37
  on
• 37:37
  the
• 37:37
  world.
• 37:37
  So
• 37:38
  we've
• 37:38
  done
• 37:38
  that
• 37:38
  a
• 37:38
  couple
• 37:39
  of
• 37:39
  ways,
• 37:39
  but
• 37:39
  we'd
• 37:39
  like
• 37:39
  you
• 37:40
  to
• 37:40
  buy
• 37:40
  us
• 37:40
  a
• 37:40
  cup
• 37:41
  of
• 37:41
  coffee.
• 37:41
  Very
• 37:41
  simple.
• 37:42
  And
• 37:42
  I
• 37:42
  do
• 37:42
  that
• 37:42
  with
• 37:43
  podcasts
• 37:44
  that
• 37:44
  I
• 37:44
  support
• 37:45
  and
• 37:45
  I
• 37:45
  find
• 37:46
  it's
• 37:46
  very
• 37:46
  satisfying.
• 37:47
  So
• 37:47
  thank
• 37:47
  you
• 37:47
  for
• 37:48
  your
• 37:48
  help,
• 37:48
  thank
• 37:48
  you
• 37:48
  for
• 37:49
  your
• 37:49
  presence
• 37:49
  and
• 37:49
  thank
• 37:50
  you
• 37:50
  for
• 37:50
  all
• 37:50
  you
• 37:50
  are
• 37:51
  and
• 37:51
  all
• 37:51
  you
• 37:51
  do.