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WE GOT ROASTED ON NATIONAL RADIO · Relatables

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  Speaker 1: Coming up on Relatables.
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  Speaker 2: My best friend is recently single, and lately she has
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  Speaker 2: been sleeping around, which I'm all for. Although there has
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  Speaker 2: been multiple people that I have been with before that
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  Speaker 2: she would ask if she can go for them too.
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  Speaker 2: I always say yes because I genuinely don't care about them,
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  Speaker 2: although as the number goes up, I'm starting to feel
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  Speaker 2: really uncomfortable with it, even though I have no feelings
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  Speaker 2: for the guys whatsoever. The Relatables podcast is hosted by myself,
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  Speaker 2: Jake Craig aka Daddy, and my partner in crime, Audie
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  Speaker 2: Clark aka Mamasita. All right, Audie, this episode, I would
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  Speaker 2: like to just bring something up I want. I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to start yeah, all right with the top line of
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  Speaker 2: the episode. Yeah, okay, I'm going to give two quick
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  Speaker 2: shout outs. All right. First quick shout out is to
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  Speaker 2: as to someone we know named Jordan Butler. M okay.
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  Speaker 2: He messaged me on Instagram and because I follow him
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  Speaker 2: mates and he goes mate like, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you know this, but Kyle and Jackie O mentioned you
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  Speaker 2: guys on their radio show What So Big. Shout out
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  Speaker 2: to Kyle and Jackie Oh really right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, how do we not know about it?
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  Speaker 2: And because I mean, well I knew about it because
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  Speaker 2: he told me, but I didn't know about it, right,
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  Speaker 2: and so he told me the episode because they obviously
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  Speaker 2: record their whole radio show every morning. Then they posted
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  Speaker 2: as a podcast on Spotify post production. Yeah. Yeah, So
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  Speaker 2: basically I just wanted to shouted to Johny Butler for
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  Speaker 2: letting us know, and then shout out to Kylin Jackie ooe.
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  Speaker 2: I suppose, not that I don't I wouldn't say I'm
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  Speaker 2: a fan of them, but like they're a massive show.
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  Speaker 1: Got smack though, How did we not know about this?
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  Speaker 2: No one sent it to us apart from the only person.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, we'll take it. So I'm excited.
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  Speaker 2: Now And basically I'm going to play a snippet of
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  Speaker 2: what they How long.
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  Speaker 1: Were they talking about?
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  Speaker 2: It's I don't know, medium minute all time, not too long,
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  Speaker 2: but like they ended like what they what they brought up,
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  Speaker 2: the reason they brought us up. They ended up talking
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  Speaker 2: about for a while, but it wasn't like about us.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm just excited to hear fuck um, well, no
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  Speaker 2: they mentioned they say the relatables, which is nice of them,
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  Speaker 2: Which is very nice of them and I just don't
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  Speaker 2: even I think I'm just gonna fucking say for anyone
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't know, though, Kylon Jackie is the biggest radio
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  Speaker 2: show in Australia. They have been for years. They both
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  Speaker 2: get paid like fifteen million dollars a year. They have
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  Speaker 2: this insanely huge deal, biggest radio show. I looked it
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  Speaker 2: up and I think per week they're getting I don't
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  Speaker 2: know about like individual downloads, but per week they are
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  Speaker 2: getting over a million listens on the radio. Crazy per
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  Speaker 2: week and they obviously do five a week in the
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  Speaker 2: morning morning radio. But yeah, I'm just gonna play it,
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  Speaker 2: and I like, we like you. Fuck, I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 2: play it. Yeah, what this guy?
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  Speaker 3: You might find this interesting, guys. This is from the
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  Speaker 3: guys at the Relatables podcast, definitely, and they ask their
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  Speaker 3: female listeners to list the subtle things girls do when
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  Speaker 3: they're into a guy. And I think you, guys, I
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  Speaker 3: think you guys out there are going to be quite
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  Speaker 3: surprised at the things we do. Mean, you have no
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  Speaker 3: idea is a sign that we're into you because we
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  Speaker 3: don't read minds and we don't do the minu mini signals.
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  Speaker 1: The music is just.
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  Speaker 2: Like stop go people.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I realized that, but yeah, let me let's listen,
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  Speaker 3: and then I will break it down a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: First, subtle signs that they give when they like a guy.
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  Speaker 2: I'll leave my phone and purse at the table when
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  Speaker 2: I go to the bathroom, not picking up on that note,
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  Speaker 2: touching his shoulder when laughing at his joke, ignoring him,
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  Speaker 2: but being super engaged with his friends asking for his help.
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  Speaker 2: The reason is because men have this weird ego thing
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  Speaker 2: they need to feel needed. I don't care what it is.
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  Speaker 2: If you're tall enough to reach said thing, pretend you're not,
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  Speaker 2: if you're strong enough to open said pretend you're not. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: some about it is like me knowing that you're giving
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  Speaker 2: me the thing that I know you're able to do
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  Speaker 2: makes me know that you like me because you want
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  Speaker 2: me to feel needed. And that's what a guy needs.
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  Speaker 2: God that guy would he even get any pussy with
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  Speaker 2: all that?
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  Speaker 4: As for anyone listening who doesn't know who Carl and
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  Speaker 4: Jackie O are, they're known for what Kyl is for
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  Speaker 4: being very abrupt.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like he's been. The whole country has tried
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  Speaker 2: to cancel him so many times, and you can't cancel him, like,
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  Speaker 2: we know, how funny is that comment. It's the funniest
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  Speaker 2: thing ever. He's such a hater and I love why
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  Speaker 2: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I fucking man, how good
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  Speaker 2: I know? And like afterwards, so Jackie O, she goes
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  Speaker 2: on to kind of just defend like what we were saying.
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  Speaker 2: She was like, no, no, these are the things. This
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  Speaker 2: is the thing, And honestly I don't, like I don't
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  Speaker 2: listen to their show. I've listened to it when I
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  Speaker 2: was like a carpenter, like on the radio, but now
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  Speaker 2: because I just don't listen to radio anymore because we
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  Speaker 2: don't do it. But like what he was saying was
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  Speaker 2: like it was making me laugh. Yeah, but like at
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  Speaker 2: the same time, I was like, holy fuck, it's just
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  Speaker 2: he's just like.
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  Speaker 1: He's just unhim man.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what makes him like famous.
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  Speaker 4: Like people don't agree with what he has to say,
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  Speaker 4: but it's entertaining and not many people can pull that off.
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know what, I think you're right. I
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  Speaker 2: think like I didn't agree with anything he says, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I think is it hearing someone say it out loud?
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what was holy shit? And everyone's entitled
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  Speaker 2: to her own opinion, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it was.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's like other producers in there that they
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  Speaker 2: get to chime in and all the guys are like
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  Speaker 2: yeah no, like they were like us, like we wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: get that at all.
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  Speaker 1: How's the radio edit on it?
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  Speaker 2: But I know, like radio edits are crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, is this us?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, when you hear the music. I was listening
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  Speaker 2: to it in a car. I listened to it with
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  Speaker 2: on the way home from where I went on the
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  Speaker 2: Weekend with Juanna and Beth in the car because I
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  Speaker 2: told him about it. I hadn't listened to it. It
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  Speaker 2: was the first time I listened to it, and so live.
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  Speaker 2: I got to hear him say like does this guy
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  Speaker 2: get any pussy? Blah bah blah, and me trying to Bethwood.
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  Speaker 1: Dying tell you what we should do. We're so fun,
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  Speaker 1: try and get on the show.
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  Speaker 2: I was even saying like, I don't know I was gonna.
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to say, like I don't even know
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  Speaker 2: if we would go on that show. To be fair,
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  Speaker 2: like it's the craziest show.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty vague. I feel we can hold our own, but.
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  Speaker 2: I think I do know what I stand for yeah, no, exactly,
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  Speaker 2: as long as we don't let the intimidation of someone
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  Speaker 2: that's so much bigger than us like get to us
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  Speaker 2: and and cave and then be like, Okay, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: you're right, like we need to stick to what we
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  Speaker 2: believe in what we've seen interview people before, and he
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  Speaker 2: tries to like baite them, has a vulliume a bit
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  Speaker 2: say what he wants him to say to like get
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  Speaker 2: the cancelation, like it's the good content there. He also
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  Speaker 2: is like just a genius in the way of that
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  Speaker 2: he knows how to get listens, he knows, he knows
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  Speaker 2: what he's doing. I think he's I reckon. It would
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  Speaker 2: be a great conversation.
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  Speaker 1: We fight for the girlipops. We have so much more content.
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  Speaker 2: You, myself and Jackie O. But she was defending us.
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  Speaker 2: We probably got to be three against one. I gotta say, like, yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 2: there's a there's so much more content we can defend
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  Speaker 2: him on too. I mean, yeah, true, I wonder if we.
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  Speaker 4: Can maybe not even defend just showed the insight into
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  Speaker 4: the intricacies of dating maybe and how much thought actually
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  Speaker 4: goes into it and why Jake gets pussy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to show him pussy. That's wild. Well
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  Speaker 2: just one, but it's a pussy. How good though? Any
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  Speaker 2: publicity is good publicity? Oh yeah, I don't give it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's hilarious. Like it was even so funny.
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  Speaker 2: You can hear him when she goes, she's like, I think,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what she's I think I think she said,
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  Speaker 2: I think you'll like this, and he goes doubt it,
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  Speaker 2: and then she goes, this is from the Boys at
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  Speaker 2: the Relatables podcast, and he said something like, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: definitely won't like something like I don't know if that's
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  Speaker 2: exactly what he said, but it's just so funny. I'd
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  Speaker 2: love to fucking meet him in person to see if
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  Speaker 2: he's actually like that.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if he puts on a facade.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know. I don't know if it's a character,
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  Speaker 2: if he's.
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  Speaker 1: Mad chill, which is outside of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably. I mean, i'd say on the radio
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  Speaker 2: he's more turned on and like Off the radio, he
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  Speaker 2: probably doesn't even like to talk.
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  Speaker 4: To be fair, yeah, he probably have a lot of
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  Speaker 4: knowledge we could get out of him to become better host.
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  Speaker 4: Not even though we weren't we don't want to go
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  Speaker 4: on the same avenue, just like, nah, well we don't
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  Speaker 4: have to be the same person. He's a great host, yeah, yeah, entertainment.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure he's got some wisdom in him. But that's
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  Speaker 4: a good way to start the podcat. It's harped me
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  Speaker 4: up a bit, I know, how funny, like random and funny.
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  Speaker 2: I know. It's just when he said it, I was like, no,
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  Speaker 2: my poor heart, at.
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  Speaker 1: Least we're not getting rosted. Nah nah, I mean, well
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  Speaker 1: you are, but I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he roasted me, but I mean I'm
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  Speaker 2: so I don't really give a shit. So yeah, But
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  Speaker 2: the next thing that I wanted to talk about, all right,
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: is we spoke about I don't know how long ago,
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  Speaker 2: but we spoke about we did it. We did a
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  Speaker 2: segment about something about like oh no, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what it was, but it was like, you said, someone
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  Speaker 2: sent in. We did like an ig question and you
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  Speaker 2: sent in someone sent in and you read it. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want you to know. I want you to be
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  Speaker 2: able to find the G spot. I don't want you
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  Speaker 2: to just be like a jack rabbit. And then we
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  Speaker 2: were like, well, where the fuck is it? Blah, blah,
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  Speaker 2: I swear it changes every time. Yes, we were like,
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  Speaker 2: but how we got to send an email from someone
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  Speaker 2: how to find the G spot? Let me actually, do
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  Speaker 2: you want to hear the title of this email? Friendly
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  Speaker 2: G spot info in brackets? It's actually fake?
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  Speaker 1: What listen?
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes I wish we had like a ninety male audience,
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  Speaker 4: not because I want more mail, like people listening so
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  Speaker 4: we can advise them. Fact like I love I love
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  Speaker 4: our Girlipop fans, but like to tell them spread the
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  Speaker 4: word we need to advise.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess to be fair, like, maybe
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the girls don't know this.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, body surely so?
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  Speaker 2: Hello Jake and Oddie, fan of the pod from the States,
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  Speaker 2: currently in Nebraska. Let's go a little about me. I'm
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  Speaker 2: a thirty one year old female in the USAF I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what that is, and y'all make me feel
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  Speaker 2: positive about this next generation of men who will hopefully
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  Speaker 2: be more empathetic and able to express emotions. I heard
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  Speaker 2: one of your latest episodes where a girl wrote in
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  Speaker 2: expecting men to be able to find the G spot,
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  Speaker 2: and I just want you and your listeners to know
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  Speaker 2: that it is debated on whether or not it even exists.
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  Speaker 2: No one can conclusively find one magic spot. A brief
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  Speaker 2: history of the G spot. A German guynecologist. All right,
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  Speaker 2: a German guynecologist in the nineteen fifties believed he had
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  Speaker 2: found an area in the interior of the vagina that
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  Speaker 2: greatly enhanced female pleasure. In nineteen eighty one, researchers seem
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  Speaker 2: to agree with his findings that there was a general
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  Speaker 2: area and named it after him, thus coining it the
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  Speaker 2: Grafenberg spot or G spot.
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  Speaker 1: So I can call it the Grafenberg spot.
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  Speaker 2: You can. That's technically correct. However, that after essentially, how
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  Speaker 2: do I find that? That's terrible? Man? Okay. However, media
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  Speaker 2: then began portraying this to the masses that there was
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  Speaker 2: one conclusive G spot. But research is inconclusive and debated.
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  Speaker 2: From life and learning, I truly believe there is no
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  Speaker 2: magic spot that will guarantee an orgasm for every woman.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm sorry to all the ladies, but you all
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  Speaker 2: have different needs and it's unfair to expect your partner
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  Speaker 2: to know what's going to work for you. We all
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  Speaker 2: just have to communicate and give people a little grace
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  Speaker 2: when they don't get it right. The first time your
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  Speaker 2: millennial friend of the pod erin ps. If the youths
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  Speaker 2: are using g spot in more of a slang way
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  Speaker 2: to say, like my spot, then disregard everything every long.
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  Speaker 2: So basically she was just protecting herself in case everyone's
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  Speaker 2: Basically that's what we concluded.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, every girl's Grafenberg spot is different, obviously, but so
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  Speaker 4: they're all different. But I think what she's getting at
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  Speaker 4: is that it's not actually a spot. It moves around it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a general area that you may not hit every time.
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  Speaker 4: But here's the thing actually thinking about it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe this is good. It's not always there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know the way. I don't know the
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  Speaker 2: way you took this, but the way that I'm thinking
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  Speaker 2: of this is like it would be harder right to
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  Speaker 2: a spot, because if it's small, it would be harder
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  Speaker 2: to find. But a general area is in everyone else's head,
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  Speaker 2: I hope as low as well as mine. It's more
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  Speaker 2: of like a general area, a bigger area. How the
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  Speaker 2: fuck are we missing it?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, this might be extremely dumb, but this is the
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  Speaker 4: logic in a boy's brain.
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  Speaker 2: In my mind, the.
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  Speaker 4: Spot, I don't know what sort of shape it is.
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  Speaker 4: Let's say it's a circle. For argument's sake. When you
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  Speaker 4: initially start sex tiny maybe the size of like a fingernail,
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  Speaker 4: and you're not finding it right.
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  Speaker 2: But as the.
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  Speaker 4: Session goes on, you both get more horny, particularly she
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  Speaker 4: gets more horny. You're hitting some good spots. Feeling good
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  Speaker 4: in my mind, that fingernail starts to grow fifty cent
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  Speaker 4: peace bigger. You start eating it more, it gets even bigger.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it goes the size of a fucking tennis ball,
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  Speaker 4: who knows, and that's when the orgasm happens. That's how
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  Speaker 4: it worked in my brain, and that's why it's harder
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  Speaker 4: to find sometimes because it's the basis of how horny
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  Speaker 4: they are and if you're hitting the right spots. But
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  Speaker 4: that's completely it could be completely wrong.
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  Speaker 2: No, it could be completely wrong. It's good analogy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a good way to think. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: you try.
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  Speaker 1: And build that spot up so it gets bigger.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know it's like, you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: like we now need to make her horny. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: am really. One thing I think I want to know is.
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  Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, Kyle would be like, what
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  Speaker 4: are these guys thinking about it's just fucking.
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  Speaker 2: No, Kyle, we actually want to think about this, all right,
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  Speaker 2: this is this is an in depth conversation about something.
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  Speaker 2: But no, seriously, you've either got it or you don't.
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  Speaker 2: And these two boys they don't got it or you
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  Speaker 2: don't don't have it. Yeah, especially get him in this
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  Speaker 2: and all that thinking you're talking about fifty cent pieces
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  Speaker 2: growing up just make her fucking horner. That's crazy. Imagine thinking,
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  Speaker 2: imagine that's the way that you genuinely thought nothing against him.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, he's a human being. I guess facade.
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  Speaker 2: Oh mate, Okay, but seriously, I think I like how
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  Speaker 2: she said, like you just gotta got to communicate, Like
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  Speaker 2: if a guy think he's found it, then and he
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  Speaker 2: hasn't found it.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny.
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  Speaker 4: I was having a similar conversation with my girlfriend the
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  Speaker 4: other day. Normally, when you're having sex with someone, they
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  Speaker 4: normally say, if you're hitting it, keep going, I'm gonna come, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: something like that, And we had a conversation about that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, sometimes, like you got to give me like
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  Speaker 4: a time or like the pace or what pace I
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  Speaker 4: have to go to keep going there. Yeah, because if
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  Speaker 4: you say The more communication the better, because if you say,
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  Speaker 4: keep going like I'm going to come to me. In
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  Speaker 4: my mind, as any male that thinks that, I'm thinking
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  Speaker 4: like ten seconds, but sometimes it's fucking minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, She's like, if you keep going, if you
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  Speaker 2: keep going like this for ten more minutes, I will come. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but it's like you think I've got to last ten
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  Speaker 2: more minutes.
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  Speaker 1: It's like that's not helpful for me.
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  Speaker 4: The more communication the better, even though it's not that sexy,
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  Speaker 4: like go faster for like ten more seconds than I'm there,
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  Speaker 4: like go slow and slow down, even though that's not
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  Speaker 4: that sexy. As a guy hearing that, then you can
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  Speaker 4: mentally prepare your body for what you're about to do,
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  Speaker 4: because sometimes he like, keep going about to come, I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 4: thank God.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Like me too, same, that's literally what the guys like.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: That's what a guy's thinking.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: She's like, that's interesting those words. Yeah, I'm about to come.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Even if you're not feeling the urge. You feel the
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: urge now, yeah, And sometimes your body gives up to
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: like your hips are going or you're like your fatigue.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Like something's going on.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Oh ship, what am I I'm trying to think as well,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: like I actually I asked my girlfriend the other day
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: because I said to her, like, let's say we're about
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: to go somewhere and we had to be there, we
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: had to leave in five minutes. But for some reason,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: we just we just had to have a sex. We
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: just had to relationships had that. It just had to
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: have sex.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Better to be late, fact relaxed.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd rather be late relaxed than early in stress.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: We'll be leaving early, by the way, we rather rock
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: uplate to stay the whole time. And I said to her,
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: like every time we do it, I am like from
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: from the very start, like it's like I can every
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: now and then I feel really good and I'm like
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: I can control it. Yeah, right, and then there's times
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: where you can't, so you really try to last as
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: long as you can. You might only last like I
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: don't know, five minutes or something like that. But I've
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: said to her. She she she asked me. I think
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: she asked me, how quick could you do it? If
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: you want to do it? And I was like, like
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: two pumps. Swear to God, I swear to god, I'm
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: not even fucking lying. I was like, if you really
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: wanted me to I could last less than ten seconds. Yeah,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: And she was like, really, can you do it one time?
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: And I still haven't done it?
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and ireate yourself now, man, I asked her, I'm
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: not say anything.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: True, I should be like I should, I should do
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: it un planned. And then she's like what was that?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: And I was like, you asked her, gas you are,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: But I asked her how quickly do you think you could?
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: And I mean all she said was like, oh, I'm
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: pretty quick. Yeah, I don't know how. I think she
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: was trying to be nice to fair, but I do
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: want to one day. I want to just be like,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: surprise me with doing it really fast, because I see
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: it to be fair either way. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: But an interesting thing I find being in a relationship
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: and like also having sex with someone is like understanding
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: each other's sex drive, but also understanding how each other
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: get horny, which is very very important in a relationship. Yeah,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: because most guys like a kiss, they're ready to go,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: but for a lot of girls, it's understanding that they
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: need a lot.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: More and when they're not in the mood, they're not
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: in the mood.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And you don't have to push the boundary all
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: the time, especially being like an eighteen year old kid,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: like I was ready to go with the fucking looking
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: at it again?
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, get me started. Yeah, it's so horny.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: You see a girl you like and you're like, fuck,
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: well it's on. But like growing up now and like
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: being with a partner for a while, it's just like
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: I might be in the mood, but I don't know,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: we're kissing it. I'm in the mood, but it takes
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: a lot more for a girl to get in the mood,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: and I've got to understand that and then pull back
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: a little bit.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: And be like, oh, that's fine. I'm just like should
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: we blink? Yeah?
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Literally literally, and yeah.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: It's honestly, the best thing is just saying like, or
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: do you want to have sex she's like, oh no,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: I'm not in the mood, and having that safe environment
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: where it's okay to say no.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Because I feel like growing yeah, I've never given it.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I feel like I wanted to and they didn't want to.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I think I don't think I've ever been like yeah,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I've always just been like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: yeah feah.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: And I feel like some people feel the need to
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: please sometimes and they do it sometimes when they're not
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: in the mood, which you should never have to do.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: And it's about building that safe environment, I think, which
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: you learn growing up.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: The early you do that. I know, like eighteen and
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Of people obviously, like the person want to have sex
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: with men, but in that time and moment, they don't
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: want to, but they're like, oh, yeah.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Let's do it. Yeah, under, I see what you mean.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, You're never ever both going to be in the
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: exact same mood all the time.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Nah, it's impossible like that. And I imagine the biggest
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: thing I always think is because you get tired from
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: work or something, Yeah, and like you're not one of
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: you is in the mood and one of you isn't.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: And that's pretty common, maybe not as common, but I
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: just all I think about is as soon as you
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: have kids, man must be tough, Like you've got okay,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: but you get your wife pregnant, she does this this
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: crazy thing. Can't believe they can fucking do it where
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: they grow a human in nine months? Yeah, crazy like
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: an alien fucking saying like holy shit. And then after it,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: the kid like needs the mom constantly like the dad. Obviously,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I guess it needs the dad. I don't know. I actually,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: let's be it doesn't need the dad and needs the mom.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: The dad's just loving it because it can. Yeah, it's
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: just a little bit age of support. But like so
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: it's just it's probably like another full year of just
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: like the kid, that fucking baby needs them to live.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of things where talking about the
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: dad's not being needed.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: There they obviously are, but.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, but like the baby doesn't necessarily need
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: the dad.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I'm seeing a lot of things where guys like these
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: new age dads, like I don't know how to love
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: their kid. Oh, or it feels like it feels like
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: a roommate more than a baby.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Sing oh no, that's crazy.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: There's a couple of people that came out with it
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: and like it's meant to be this joyful, like the
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: best thing that ever happens to you, which like that's
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: what we expected to happen.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: But yeah, like some.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Famous people were coming out and just like I didn't
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: know how to act, like it's we're just we're just
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: like told to figure it out, yeap, where this baby
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: comes into the world and you have to care for
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: it and you're like, whoa, Like what's going on here?
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: And like that love that you expected isn't always there.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: That's such you know, I never I didn't never thought
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: of that. So like sometimes like a baby might reject
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: the dad because it wants the month, so not even
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: that it doesn't even know what's going on, and you know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: well it's not very co's like, we.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Have this expectation that I'm gonna love this thing, like
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: through and through, and like a lot of men are
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: coming out saying like I just don't feel the way
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: I thought I was going to feel.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's I've never seen videos that it was.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Really it was I don't want to quote do you mean.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Like did they say like I kind of had to
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: fall in love with it?
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Pretty much?
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: It was Pautie piet Yeah said it. He said the
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: first year was the hardest year of his life. And
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: then really it was Jack from HAMI Shandy, don't quote
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: exactly what I said. If he went on the Imperfect
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: podcast and talked about like the first couple of months
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: of having a baby and the struggles of it, and
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: it was around the same conversation. It was actually very
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: eye opening.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I might listen to that. Yeah. Wow, a very.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Interesting conversation, and it's like something you just don't know
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: or feel will happen when you have a.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Kid, No, because you expect, you expect that you're gonna
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: be absolutely do you expect as soon as you see
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: that thing. I'm sure a lot of people to see
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: it love love, Yeah, but some people it makes sense
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: also like whoa, what's going on here? Yeah, your body
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: needs time to adjust? Holy shit? Fair wow, which is like.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Interesting and scary, but also one of the things that like,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: I feel like people would be scared to say that,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: So it was very important for people to voice that.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: STARSKT dads, did you love me? Like so yeah, yeah,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: but just be honest, like when you first fucking with
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: sort of a sarmyboo thing to say, because you can't
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: say to like it's like, I don't know what's going
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: on here, I don't know what to field towards it.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: But it's also like falling in love, like with a
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: partner for the first time. You all these emotions there
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: and you don't know how to deal with them. It's
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: the same thing.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Fuck, that's scary. That's just one more thing I now
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: think about. Yeah, having kids like what if I don't
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: like my kid?
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: I think you just fall in love with it, like
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: you said, But that initial couple months are like, oh, whoa,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: what's going on? Humans have this mindset where like he'll
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: be right, Like I'll figure it out.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: True, we do have that time of mindset when like,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: in reality, we've never done.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: It before, Like, where's this expectation that I'm going to
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: fall in love it immediately?
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Everyone says living life for the very first time. It's
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: like one thing I've I've for some reason I've been
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: remembering a lot lately, is that every single person is
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: living life for the first time. So if someone's making
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: a mistake and it's the first time they've ever made
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: said mistake, or maybe they knew it was a mistake,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: like maybe they knew it was the wrong thing to do.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: But also, like the whole thing about learning is like
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: when you're a kid, you fall down to learn how
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: to get back up. Yeah, Like if you make a
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: little mistake as an adult, like fuck, let yourself live
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: because just remind yourself that this is the first time
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: you've been on this planet. Yeah, and it's weird.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: This weird social media platform we've built has made people
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: who ever following not be able to make mistakes facts,
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: which is like.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Not human nature.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Like I get they're in a position to influence people
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: and they should be saying all the right things, but
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: everyone should be able to realize that they haven't done
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: this before either, Like they're going to be doing their
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: best way to fucking do everything right, but they're human,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: like they're going to fucking fall down and they got
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: to figure it out when they get back up.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Like, for instance, let's say with the podcast, you should
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: be allowed to say, like you should be allowed to
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: believe one thing right and that thing could be wrong,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: and then you get let known arguments as to why
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: it's wrong, and you should be allowed to change your mind,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Like what you thought of something at one point in
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: your life shouldn't define you for the rest of your life,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: but you should be allowed to change your mind and
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: be like I've actually changed my thoughts on this, oh,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: And there's definitely I see the argument's sake where there's
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: a fine line behind like a like a dictator type
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: person who says my way or the high way. Yeah,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: but I think if there's two people having a conversation
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: and their opinion comes out openly and like this is
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: what I think. And then all this information comes in
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: You're like, oh, actually, I've realized that I was wrong
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: and you could have met. When you're wrong, that's when
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: it should be okay to make mistakes.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: That's that's such a good point.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's human nature.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: What happened in the world where yeah, there's now these
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: people that just aren't allowed to make mistakes. It's it's weird.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can understand maybe like a politician's held
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: on a pretty high pedestal. Fair, yeah, you know, but
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: still they're gonna make a human levels to it, like
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: the like obviously if it affects other people, like it
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: goes further than just that person saying something wrong. But
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: if like fuck, if your favorite fucking famous person says
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know something wrong about fucking how he finds
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: his girlfriend's g spot like it's fine, yeah, exact to
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: be fair, that's fine, And.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Then he gets corrected and says, there actually isn't one spot, mate,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Like there's this thing that this build up, yeah, and
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: like it moves around and it st different every person.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: He's like, oh wow, like I didn't know, like I'm
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: sorry I didn't educate myself. Probably that's fine, But then
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: there's fifteen news articles written on this guy saying like,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: fucking Jake Craig doesn't know how.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: To find the headline, Jake Craig can't find girlfriends, spot
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: poor girl. Carl Sandalance, it's just Carl Sandlanz offers to teach. Yeah, like,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: it's just funny and I don't know.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Life is just weird concept that everyone hasn't done before
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: and we just got to figure it out exactly.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, baddies, time for a dilemma.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Let's go.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: You know what to do. If you want to send
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: money in they're all anonymous, you can do it in
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: the link in the description of this video and or
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the link in the bio of our Instagram. Click the
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: comeo and you scroll down. You do it. Okay. My
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: best friend is recently single and lately she has been
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: sleeping around, which I'm all for. Although there has been
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: multiple people that I have been with before that she
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: would ask if she can go for them too, I
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: always say yes. It's a relatable I always say yes
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: because I genuinely don't care about them. Although as the
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: number goes up. I'm starting to feel really uncomfortable with it,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: even though I have no feelings for the guys whatsoever.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Sometimes we have argued over guys because we have both
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: been with them before, and even though I tell her
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I'm okay with it, it's starting to make me lose
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: my trust in her. What do you guys think? How
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: should I talk to her about this? Oh? Okay? Initially,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: when I read it the first time, right, I was
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: thinking like, oh, well, maybe like you just haven't accepted
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: that you do like some of these guys. Nah. But
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: what I am getting at, what I'm starting to get at,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: like in my head after reading it at the end,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: was like she's losing trust in her because maybe she's thinking,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: like what if I get a boyfriend and all of
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: a sudden she just wants to sleep with that guy
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: because we've been switching guys, you know, Like.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: I just think that her friend isn't respecting her boundaries.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: But she asks.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: I still don't think that's respectful. Really asking is one thing,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: but like if you slept, say we're both single, when
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: you slept with a couple of girls And then I
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: somehow was talking to them on a night out and
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: I knew you slept with him, were like, oh I
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: slept with her like a month ago or year. I'd
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: be like, oh, so a man did not that's off limits.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Really I wouldn't what if I didn't care, because she's
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: saying she doesn't care, because like in the friends defense,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: she's saying she doesn't care as that.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Many fucking people in the world.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Why are you sleeping?
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Why do you want to have sex with someone that
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: your best friend is also had sex with someone and
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: made a connection.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Feelings aren't there. I just think out of respect, I
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: shouldn't do it because you were in there first. I mean,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: look fair, but I feel like that I would value
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: I value my friendship.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Like she said, how do I bring this up with
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: the friend? I would say, oh, after you go, I
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: got something.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: I would say, hey, I know you keep asking me
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: if you want to have sex with the people that
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: I've already had sex with, which is fine, and I'm
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: voicing how I feel and I don't have any feelings
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: for them, which is okay. But I feel like it's
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: like stepping on a line where you're taking it too
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: far and you're not respecting my boundaries at all.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Yep, you're not very seeing our friendship very similar. I
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: was gonna say it could be as easy as sitting
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: her down and just bring it up, like hey, like,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I know, I've told you I'm okay with it, and
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I don't like the guys, like I don't want to
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: be with them, but I think for the sake of
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: our friendship, yeah, we just shouldn't go for the same guys.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: It's I think, like and and it's making things the
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: dirty and tricky. Yeah, you know, I think that that's
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: not a big ask because, like you said, there is
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: so many people in the world. It's not a big
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: ask at all.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: And I think the person sending in this dilemma is
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: questioning whether or not her emotions are valid because she
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: doesn't have feelings for them.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: And I think they are completely valid.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: That's to feel this icky way even though you don't
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: have feelings for this guy and your friends sleeping with
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: all of them, Like, I just don't see the I
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: don't I'm just immediately if Jake slept with a girl,
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: I'm also kind of turned off them, Like I'm not
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: as they're not attractive, but like they become more of
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: like a friend or a sibling rather than someone that
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: I find attractive.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think we've never slept with the same person. No,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: and if we did, if like, I don't think I
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: have with anyone I know. No, I know, like it's
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: friends of friends, but not like friends. No, no, you're
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: not someone that you can close tight group.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, I know you have.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Actually okay, right, it was their first.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: It was their first, not you. Oh no, no, you actually
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: wear their first.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Sorry you got I got my timelines mixed up. Were first.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't do that. And I think that's a
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: good dilemma to bring up with your friend and say, like, look,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: I value our friendships. Just let's not make the things
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: dirty and have sex with each other's body counts who
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: we've had.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: To you and I, it sounds like the easiest thing
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: in the world.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: And but some people, some friendships, guys and girls, really
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: value sex a lot higher than the friendship. Like a
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: lot of people will rather flick the bean and have
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: some fun then fucking have our relationship as friends.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're so right on a night out, like.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: I know plenty, especially the dudes do. I'm sure the
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: girls are the same, and there's no dudes do. Dudes
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: are probably more because I'm exposed to dudes. But like that,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: many dudes will throw like their mates under the bus
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: to have sex. Honestly, they talk shit, they fucking go
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: behind their backs. They do all this tricky business just
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: to get some when in reality, I think people should
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: be valuing their friendships a lot higher than said sex,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: especially if your friends. I could understand if the friend
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: having sex with him said, do you care if I
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: sleep with so and so, I'm beginning to get feelings
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: for them.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, then I would be see it going somewhere.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Then I would be like, oh, okay, no, I don't
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: have feelings for them, Like go ahead, I'm glad you checked.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we had one night stand like it was
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: nothing like don't yeah, yeah, I'm glad you checked.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: But if she's just doing it also because she's on
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: a glow up error, which is completely fine, her bad
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: error having sex with people finding herself again, Yeah, I
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: think you should just go to a fucking different club
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: and have sex with other random dudes.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah please, yeah, bring it up with her, just say
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: to it. Look to protect our friendship. I value it
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: so much, I think we should not sleep with the
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: same people just saying it out loud. It's just not
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: a big ars. It's just really not a big ars. No,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: because but you have to say it, just like, not
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: in an attacking way, just be like I think, don't like,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: don't tell her that she's disrespecting you anything like that.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I think you have to say it because it's just you.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I think you should just be like, I'm feeling affected,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: but I prefer our friendship over the fact.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's so fair.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I think so as well. Yeah, I mean, if you
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: guys are in the Facebook group, yeah, fucking let us know,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: because we feel like it's fair honestly.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: And if like, if she doesn't see it's fair and
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: she doesn't value the friendship as much as you do,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: I think that's a win finding.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Out as well.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: True.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, true.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: If she said I want to have sex with them, like, oh, well,
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: like I thought we had something a bit more special.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe I was wrong. Yeah, get toxic, start getting with
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: like real hot dudes that she can't get with.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, Noah, that's me or right, Jake.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Not on purpose? We have become a word that I
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: don't like oh, okay, influencers. I don't care. I mean,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: it's just it's just a category of what I'd prefer
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: to say on a podcast.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: We started out wanting to be podcasters. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: which I mean we are, which we are, yes, yes, yes.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: And as a subsequent which we are very fortunate to
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: be in the position we have become influencers due to
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: our social media following on TikTok and Instagram. Yes, and
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: there's this weird world that we live in that some
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: reason influencers don't like to talk about it.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what is with that? I mean, like, I guess
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: no one really likes to talk about their own like
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: I guess salary or like just all the nitty grip.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: But you can tell how like you can tell people
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: how it works, people don't even Like. There's one thing
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: that I'm realizing in life is a lot of the
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: information you have you take for granted and people don't
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: know it, and like you just keep that information yourself.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Like me, pt I take some of that information I
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: have for granted, and some people could benefit from that information.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: So I thought me and Jakes could have some a
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: good riveting conversation about being open about the influencer world
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: and brand deals and how everything works, and just I
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: feel like it could be such a good interesting conversation.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Also like tips for growing on social media because we've
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: done it.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I always do say, like people will ask us,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: We get questions about whether or not not, whether or
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: not sorry, just questions about maybe what we're doing to
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: grow the podcast or how to grow a podcast. Yeah,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: And I always tell people that we are in the
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: middle of that right now. Like we I say, like,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: we now understand how to gain a following on social media,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: and we want to have a really big podcast. And
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: it's not that we don't. Let we we love it
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: and appreciate everything, and we think we have a great podcast.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: But I always say to people like, yeah, we know
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: social media, that's like what we do. But now we're
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: working on how to learn how to make the podcast bigger.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, two different entities social media and then there's a podcast.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: And that line often gets blurred a lot of the time,
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: And it's the same thing when it's really two completely
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: different industries that don't even talk to each.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Other, not really, Hey, like sometimes but not really. Yeah.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: I bet heaps of people listening either want to grow
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: their personal pages or is just interested in finding out
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: how the industry works.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I find Yeah, do you reckon? Like maybe people don't
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: want to give insights on the industry because then it's
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: like the competition or some shit, maybe competition or like
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: they think that. I don't know. I don't feel like
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: anyone saying like, oh, you guys don't deserve the money
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: you make would affect me at all because like they
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: don't know the work that went into it. Like maybe
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: some people don't want to disclose that they feel like
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: they're making quite a bit of money for not doing
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: that much work, but they don't think about like all
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: the work that went into growing the page or something
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, they don't understand like where the money
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: comes from.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: But also like fuck that, Like dumbas also just want
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: to tell them because they can do whatever they want
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: with the information and it's going to help. I'm more
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: happy helping one person and a couple of people getting
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: angry because someone's making a lot of money, which we're
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: not making.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Heaps of money. No, No, some like, okay, well what
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: should we start with?
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Then I was gonna want to start with how to
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: grow pages and then go into the background information of
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: how to make money on social media.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, we can give what we know.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so the first tip I'm kind of happy to
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: have this, yea, honestly here at all time though, is consistency.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was thinking about this the other day. Actually,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: if someone was to say to me, like what should
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I do, or if maybe I don't know, a podcast
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: that's not as big as ours came to us and
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: was like, what do you think we should do? And
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I would like, the hardest the genuinely, Oh it's so
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: fucking lame, I reckon, you'd agree, But the hardest part
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: is like just growing the confidence to be able to
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: just like start posting. Well, that's also what I was
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: going to say.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: I had a conversation with someone the other day who
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: was trying to grow his page, and Jake and I
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: got lucky in the fact that we had each other,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: So we had this little safety bubble around us where
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: our mindsets individually also didn't care what people think, but
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: also this safety bubble of having each other and each
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: other being delusional in this goal. We had helped not
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: let outside his perspective ruin our goal of becoming a
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: really good podcast. Yeah, so we just started posting and
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: not giving a fuck what people think, which is a
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: lot harder for an individual out there. But the first
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: thing is like not caring what people think and also
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: realizing that you are the person to make the content
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: you want to make.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: A lot of people think like, oh, my.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Voice is an important Like why should I make a
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: fitness page? Why should I make a beauty page? Like
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: I'm not the most beautiful, I'm not the fucking fittest.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: But if you have a passion about that, you can
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: do whatever the fuck you want to do. Yeah, And
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: it's just like getting out of this bubble of what
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: other people think and posting every single day or jazz much.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: As you can. Yeah, I reckon like of anything. I
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: do think that the best thing you can do is actually, yeah,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: to post every day.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: It is, and it's it seems like a lot.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: You just have to set up a system in a
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: way where you can get content out that isn't isn't
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: overly draining.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I also think like there was probably times where
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not probably sorry, there's like there's been so many
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: times where maybe we'd I'd go to post a clip
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: for the podcast, and I like, I didn't even like
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the clip, but I think that like it does something
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: for you and your learning of like at least I
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: got it out, like I said i'd post, so I posted.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: And then also like if you don't like this said clip,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: it also just kind of helps you, maybe say, like
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: maybe if I edited a clip and I didn't like
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: it and we thought it was gonna be good, and
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I can come to you and be like, look this
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: actually it's just it's fucking shit, like yeah, and then
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: they just kind of you learn that like what you
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: do and don't like and and stuff like that. And
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I had a question actually I went I was winning
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: a row trip the other day and I did question
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: box on Instagram. I didn't answer the question I wish
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I did, But one of the questions was, how do
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: you have you gained confidence posting and being yourself on
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: social media? Because like I guess like on my stories
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: and maybe if I if I ever posted TikTok pretty
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: rarely these days, but I just like we just be ourselves,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: like we don't give a shit anymore. Yeah, And I
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: mean the answer is like at the start, I was
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: fucking terrified, hated it. If I went back and watched
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: early videos of the podcast, early videos on my own
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: TikTok page. I fucking hate them.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Like it's literally just time and being exposed to what
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: you're doing a start.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: You're going to be bad at it. You're gonna fucking
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: suck at it. Yeah, and you're not, and you're okay.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Your content is not going to mean anything. It's going
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: to mean something to you maybe, but like you're like,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: it's not going to mean anything for the longest time
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: because like it's going to take a while for you
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: to find your voice. Yeah, you know, like your your
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: personality might even change or my floorish even more. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: It took us like ages.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: It feels like ages.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Maybe, I would say, over twelve months to figure out
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: this version of the podcast where we give a male's
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: perspective on females like lives and also like be a
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: voice to up the quality of men in the world. Yeah,
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: we didn't do that, Like at the start, it was
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: to normalize.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I think that's a good thing.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: A good point to have is with your content, even
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: if it's shit or you just want to start, have
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: a good meeting behind it.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: That always helps. Yeah, that helps it because it also
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: just helps you, makes you feel like, it feels like
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: it's got a purpose, and ours was to normalize men
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: being able to talk about their feelings.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that grew into this version of the pod
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: which we have now. But if you ask me two
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: years ago before we started, if we would be talking
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: about the stuff we talking about, I would be like, funk,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: I've got no idea.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Man, No, yeah, it's the And also if you go
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: back and listen to the early episodes, I would say
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: they're probably not really anything like they are now.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: No, but we changed, we grow, and like we grow
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: as people as well as the content grows and the
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: stuff we want to talk about changes. Yeah, I'm sure
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: if we keep the Poty in thirty years we're going
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: to be talking about like fucking.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Different shit podcasts. Who knows what will fucking turn into. Yeah.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: So first, the thing is you evolve, because like the
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: podcast evolves with the humans you are, because we started
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: it two years ago and we're different people to who
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: we are two years ago. Yeah, So I think first
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: tip is being consistent.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: Second tip is realizing that you're going to be shit
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: and you've got to post no matter what because that's
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: gonna improve your confidence and the level of quality of
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: content you're putting out there. Just over time, you just
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: get better. And the final tip it seems so simple,
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: but also like all those tips seem simple, like obviously
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: he's got to post all the time. It's all easier said,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: they're done realizing that numbers of other people aren't a
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: reflection of how much work you're putting in. So say,
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: social media is this weird world where if I get
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: one hundred views or a thousand views, that's not perceived
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: as good because you're not getting the next of our video.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: But it's realizing that.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: I remember when we first started the pod, like we
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: got one hundred and fifty listens.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I was stoked. That's one hundred and fifty people. Yeah.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I think our first episode got something like forty, and
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: we were like, well, forty people listen to it, and
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: then it would like slowly like start to go up
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: a bit, and I think at one point maybe it
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: was we'll get in like three sixty yeah, and I
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: was thinking like fuck it, oaths, like that's.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Three hundred and sixty people, and you can really strip
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: it back for what it is and if you get
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know a hundred likes and thousand start, and
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: that one hundred people in a room liked your video.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Imagine if a hundred people came up to you and
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: said I like you. Yeah, it's a fucking one hundred
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: people's crazy.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: It's adding a human side to your social media and
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: realizing that like, don't get like let down and your
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: motivation leave because you aren't getting one, two hundred thousand,
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: a million views every time. Think about it in like
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: a human way that that one hundred people or even
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: ten people like your video.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of people. Yeah, and if your social
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: media is so fake, man, if you fifteen people like
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: your video, you're like, oh, that's fucking obviously the shit
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: is video. Ever we do it, it's we're guilty of
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: It's like the shit is obviously it's a shit video.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: But fifteen people coming up to you on the street
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: and saying I like you, it's like when you think
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: about it, like it's a lot.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: And and last tip before we get into it, I
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: don't know how business works, is that social media is.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: A lot of luck.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: Oh yes, there's a lot of luck, yep, But you
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: have to be in it to win it.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Yep. So if you see someone.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: Be like I wish I could be them, I wish
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: I could be that, Then why aren't you posting? M
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Like honestly, if you keep putting content out there like us,
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: we don't know what's going to blow up. No one
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: knows what's blowing up. You can give tips on the algorithm,
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: you can do anything, but it's a lot of luck
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: and if you're in it, you can win it. So
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: if you consistently post, that's how you can be.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: How you learn, because like, yeah, you could give ten
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: shit videos and one good one. You're like, okay, well,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: well why was it that one good one? Good? And
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: again though it is luck, like if oury first time
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: we had a vild video, I remember that hit a million.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: We're fucking losing our minds. Oh god, I wish I could.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Like we were happier then than a video hitting like
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: ten million. Now if it ever does, it hasn't happened
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: for a while, but like we were so stoked and
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: thinking back on it, not even for a second. I
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: don't even think for one second, did we like ask
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: ourselves like, oh obviously that was a good video. What
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: made a go viral? Yeah? Because we were just like
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: fuck yeah, like, let's just keep doing Obviously obviously what
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: we're doing is right. And then it took fucking like
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: months and months for it to have it again, and
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: we were okakay, well what made this one go viral?
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: And again it's just it's random luck of the algorithm,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Like I just don't base hard work like I could.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: We could work for fucking hours on a clip that
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: we think is going to be sick.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: It's just it's a funny world.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: It was so funny thinking back on it.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: And honestly, we could have probably cut six to twelve
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: months of our time if we realized what worked good
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: in that video and why it worked good. And now
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: we sort of know a little bit more, but we still.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Don't know it.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't change it day.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: What's the cliche saying it's not about the end goal,
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: it's about the journey.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: Like thinking about us getting our first million views. Our
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: best friend Jackie lived under us at the time, was
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: coming upstairs every ten minutes when I was going like.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Eight, okay, yeah, he came out and then and then
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: you'd scroll and refreshing and be like.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: And then it came up at like nine hundred and
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: eighty and we sat on the couch and then we
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: all went up for jamas and got hyped. Yeah, and
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: it was like, it's a beautiful memory. And obviously it's
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: not always about fucking hitting a million views or anything, but.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: No, it was just fun. It was very fun and nah,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: we don't care. The best thing about.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: Social media is that, like it gives you the opportunity
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: like nothing else could, to monetize your passions. Yeah, which
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: is very very exciting.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: True. Yeah. A lot of people say, like, if you
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: want to be happy, to do what you're passionate about,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: and the best way to do that these days is
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: to actually fucking try and get a social media following. Yeah,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: we're completely honest if you want to sell something or.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Some people with that, but that's what the world's coming to.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, true. I mean I don't and you don't have
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: to agree with it, like that's just our opinion. Yeah, fair.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: And then the other side of things is business.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't know, there's probably a bit of
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: a misconception that we're ballers.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I probably like, but.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: But no, I think we're just like normal. Yeah.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: So there's sick there's a couple so sick, Yeah, very
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: sick that we get to do this for a living. Yeah,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: there's a couple avenues of income. First one is that
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: we don't know the TikTok creative fund, otherwise we would
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: be ballers.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: But that's actually that is like, it's crazy. If we
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: had the TikTok creative fund, I think we would be Yeah,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: we different people, but we'd be fucking yeah, we'd be
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: different people.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we use Instagram and TikTok. Think of it as
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: like a funnel. So TikTok is the best platform that
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: has exposure to get eyes. So this is also like, say,
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: our podcast is our brand. So if you have a
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: clothing brand or any type of brand out there, beauty brand,
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: think of our podcast as your brand. The funnel at
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: the top of it is TikTok because that has the
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: best exposure. So that's like the getting eyes on relatables,
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: and you need a couple point of contact before people
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: actually commit to listening to our podcast. Yeah, so the
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: first one is TikTok where we get views and then
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: we also get if we get a brand deal on TikTok,
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: we're going to give them figures ballpark.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like when you have a big page, like
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: it's thousands of dollars, but it's under ten thousand dollars. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: And different brands pay for different things depending on what
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: they want. And some brands want a lot more, so
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: you charge more, and some brands give you all creative
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: freedom and they charge a lot less.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: giving fig is good or bad, to be honest with you,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: like if we do, because like with brands in the
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: future we work with, we want to be able to
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: get the most money out of it. Yeah, but like
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't really matter because like another thing,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: So to finish off your funnel. Thing is the way
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: we look at it. I don't know if this is correct.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: This is the way we look at it. Is the
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: top of your funnel. TikTok, it's the biggest one where
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: you get the most eyes. And then you want to
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: try and transfer them from TikTok to Instagram, And then
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: you want to.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: Go Instagram become fans because they actually follow you in
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: their page. This stuff pops up on their page because
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: they care.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you want to go from Instagram. That's
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: where you will try and get them to go from
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Instagram to become an actual listener for the podcast or
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: from Instagram to maybe your website if you're trying to
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: sell something, and then if we can get them to
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: the podcast, it's up to us to keep them there.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: And then the end goal for us is actually to
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: get obviously lots of podcast listeners, but then the end
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: goal for us is to try and transfer them to
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: them Patreon where they pay for the content, yes, and
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: so that's our funnel, and then to get them to youtubes.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: It's slightly different, but it's a similar thing. Like it's
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: all like we think of it as funnels.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and like in an ideal world, if that funnel
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: worked perfectly, like we go from like eight hundred thousand
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: on TikTok, the three hundred k on Instagram to like,
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: I think we have sixty.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Thousand followers on Spotify. Yeah, podcast listeners, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: yea yeah yeah.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: So you can see how the funnel really starts to
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: like less water goes through and less water goes through.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: And then in an ideal world, because someone brands.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Like ah, like you don't always want to have too
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: many brands on your page because it looks like you're
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: a sellout. Yeah, and like in an ideal world, our
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: Patreon would pay for us to do this, so we
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: make the best content possible. Also, brand does take away
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: from us making content because we're building it for other
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: people's brand.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Which we're appreciative of, which is good. It's a good thing.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: But in an ideal world, this funnel works perfectly and
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Patreon pays for us to talk to you guys, Yeah,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: that would be ideal.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: And then in the background, like the backside of us.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: The good thing about our business model is because we're
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: a podcast, we edit like so it's like a full
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: time job of editing behind the scenes. Whereas like if
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: anyone's an influencers or something like that, not taking anything
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: away from them, they don't have that like core of editing,
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: so they have this like free time. I'm where they
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: have to think of videos to do. Yep, ours is
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: more of a job, whereas I don't want to speak,
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: I'm sure they do a lot of shit before Yeah, no,
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent, they do.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: They do a lot of shit. But also like even
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: our manager when we were in Korea, she was in
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: career with us, and she was talking about it. She
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: was like, you guys are lucky because if the Internet
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: died tomorrow, or let's just say, like TikTok and all
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: that type of thing died tomorrow, Like we have a
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: skill like take away anything we've done in the past
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: before the podcast, Like if we had only ever done
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: the podcast, Like, we have a skill that we could
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: still make a living off of. Whereas and that skill
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: is production, like we know about some tech stuff, Like
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: we still produce everything that you guys listen to and
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: or watch, like and we love doing it. It's so sick.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: It's the fucking sickest thing ever. But a lot of people,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: like say just someone that's an influencer, where their whole
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: life is just like thinking of content which props to
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: them is not fucking easy, and then like doing it
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: and doing the bit of editing and stuff like that.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: If it's a pretty simple type of page, if the
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: fucking TikTok died, then we'd.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: Still have skill set. Yeah, talking about Andrew as well.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: It also goes into the business side of things. So
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: we hired a manager who was an independent or you
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: can go for an agency where a lot of people
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: would see online where like there's big ones and a
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: lot of influence have in their bio their dot name,
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: business name, and they're an agency and they look for
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: brand deals foresaid person and they put you forward. Because
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: so our manager is an independent, but she puts us forward.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: Hey have you seen Jake and Oddie? This is what
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: they're about.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: This is their views and analytics, because this is at
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, like it is a business still. Yeah,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: and then now touching on business, is everyone thinks they're
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: going to do everything properly, right, Yeah, I would like
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: to point out I was one of those people. I
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: thought we were going to do anything properly. You thought
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: we had to have my head wrapped around it. But like,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: first off, like no one does anything for you, so like,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: please do your research if you're starting a business, Like
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: I even found like our accountant he like we obviously
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: are going to make him money, but even he doesn't
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: really tell you to do anything that's going to like
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: kind of help you, if that makes sense. No, no, no,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: you sort of got to hint that you know what
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: you're talking about. But like one crazy thing that I
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: told my dad the other day was I was just
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: like Oh, man, I fucking oddie and I have this
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: separate account in our bank account for like the company,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: and that's where we put out our tax. Yeah, and
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: we hate seeing it because it's just such a big
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: number in there because you get taxed so much. Like
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: we just feel like, oh, we know it's not our money,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: but blah blah blah. He was like, Oh, that's crazy
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: that you're doing that, Like you would be so surprising
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: the amount of people that don't know to do that
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: and don't do that well being.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: Relatable in twenty twenty three or twenty four whatever, it
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: is only fan models make a lot of money really quickly. Yeah,
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: And it's the same thing if you blow up on
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: social media whatever. You make a lot of money really
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: quickly and you spend it, yes, because you haven't set
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: up like the key fundamentals of business.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: So it's sort of like being an entrepreneur in a
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: way which we just got chucked in. Yeah, and you
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: just figure it out. Yeah, you make mistakes, you fuck up.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: Oh you like you might have to pay an extra
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: couple grands tax here, you get fucking insurance.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: You gotta do this. Wow, I didn't realize all these
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: costs that you had to do and where Yeah, and
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: we're still like I reckon, we're barely surface level still,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: like fucking sounds all so shit.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually I liked business in school and I'm
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: enjoying learning about it and seeing that very very very
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: intricate world you live in. But it's also I think
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: it's good if anyone wants to start out there, because
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: it's sort of just like putting yourself forward, and like
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: when you're an employee, it's good in all and everything's
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: done for you and you just get to see you
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: see the money in your bank account and it's a
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: great thing. But if you want to go one step
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: further and see where all the money goes, like we
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: just got chucked in the deep end of that and
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: you actually see where it's all going, like the funnels
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: and avenues of all your money going everywhere, you're like,
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: holy shit, Like how can I get this money to
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: stay in my account and not go to this person's account?
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: Oh it's fun legally obviously, Oh no, yeah.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: All legally, but like yeah, you just have to give
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: your money to tax.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: It's crazy, yeah, and it's funny, But honestly, take away
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: of this is if you want to start social media,
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: I think just do it.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we say do it.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: Make a fool of yourself, because you don't know the
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: end of the day. We're so appreciative of everybody listening
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: right now, and we want to stay relatable. I remember
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: starting this page that like I always wanted to like
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: have a voice that people could relate to. Yeah, Like
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: I didn't want to become that person who's just like,
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: oh fuck, he's got so many followers and now he
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: just talks about fucking going to LA and yeah.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: You know what's funny is when we started it and
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: we called it relatable, was I was always had in
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: the back of my head, like what if we blow
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: the fuck up? And like, are you still considered relatable then?
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: And I think that you can be.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that you can bake can be. Especially
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: Like the weird thing about social media is you put
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: people on a pedestal for some reason or like not
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: a pedestal. You think they're not real, or like get
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: excited to see them in public, which is all cool
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: and all, but like they're still normal people.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: And a good thing about us in our relationship is
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: like we keep each other accountable.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. I feel like it's been good doing
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: it with someone. Yeah, like feel semi doesn't get to
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: like I still feel the same as I did day one.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing's got to my head. Like people come and
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: get photos for us, which we're very appreciative of. That's
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: the fucking course, and it's wild. But like, nothing's and
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: I hope it never does. And I think I've got
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: Jake there to keep me accountable.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: It's just like I reckon, Yeah, if one of us
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: started to get like a big head, one.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: Of us say yeah, yeah, yeh yeah, someone would keep
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: each I think that's why a lot of you see
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: in the industry, like the Sidemen is a good example
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: in England, who like a big successful YouTuber group, the
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: big group of each other, who keep each other accountable
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: and give each other shit when they do dumb shit.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's true, Yeah they always do.
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: But if you're like an independent person who's blowing up,
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: it's very easy to get caught up in the world
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: of fucking I'm the best. Yeah, But honestly, I hope
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: that was a bit insightful. Hopefully that's what's going in
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: the background for us. So we just wanted to talk
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: about it and be relatable.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like it like yeah, true, try our best
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: at least Alright, guys, we're gonna finish off with a
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: passage from how to Piss men off? As you guys know,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: what were we up to? I had a right to
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Carl sandals off? That would be true. This probably some
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: of these might piss Carl Sandaland's off. Okay, So say
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: to a man, quote, you're so frugal. Who you know?
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Frugal means like detailed, doesn't it means like cheap? Oh
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: like cheap skates? Stingy. Okay, So say you're so frugal.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: This is a good trick to get a man to
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: spend more money on you. The next time he's in
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: line at Trader Joe's and sees that bouquet of flowers,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: he'll think, oh, i'll show you.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Frugal good points.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Genius planning the sea, it's genius. Ah.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: We love to pisce some men off. But thank you
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: everybody for listening.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: We will see you on Wednesday. See you