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Are We About to Find Out Aliens Are Real? (Conspiracy! The Show Legacy Collection) · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show with your hosts Adam Todd
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  Speaker 1: Brown and Conye mcspaden. Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy the Show.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Adam Todd Brown, I'm Conormic spad and I forgot
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  Speaker 1: to pull up the online hyphen stopwatch dot com clock.
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  Speaker 1: But that's fine, man, we're keeping track. Watches are synchronized,
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  Speaker 1: just like a good conspiracy how's it going, man.
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  Speaker 2: It's going good, dude. That is the best part of
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  Speaker 2: the Heist Move movie, where it's let's all synchronize our watches.
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  Speaker 1: Which seems really unnecessary.
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  Speaker 2: On this day and age. I feel like, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: the iPhone standard time. I don't think there's a munch
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  Speaker 2: of a much of a delay, but that is kind
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  Speaker 2: of a fun move.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and at least I mean, just try to
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  Speaker 1: be early. If you're in a heist, why do you
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  Speaker 1: want to cut it down to the last second anyway?
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you don't want to raise profile or suspicion,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but shown up too early, like there's just
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  Speaker 2: a guy in a reservoir dog suit at this bank.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good point.
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  Speaker 2: For twenty minutes chilling, you know, drinking free coffee and
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  Speaker 2: just like eyes darting around the room.
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  Speaker 1: And he has a gun. How have you been, man?
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  Speaker 2: Been good? Dude.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't recorded in almost a month, right.
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  Speaker 2: I know, Al, I've gotten myself back to a healthy
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  Speaker 2: place where I can return to the depths of paranoia
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  Speaker 2: with you. I'm excited.
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  Speaker 1: We're going way down into the depths of paranoia with
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  Speaker 1: this one.
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  Speaker 2: Very subject, very near and dear to my heart. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I was just thinking about the Star Trek prime directive
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  Speaker 2: of the entire time, and yeah, talking about aliens gang.
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  Speaker 2: Are you a big Star Trek fan, big Star Trek fan?
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  Speaker 1: Have you watched Black Mirror yet?
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  Speaker 2: I did. I watched that one the US. It's pretty good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's a few little things where I'm like, you couldn't
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  Speaker 2: see quotes people's genes to that. But I was like,
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  Speaker 2: God's just accept it, you know. And I was just like, well, no,
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  Speaker 2: she wouldn't break into someone's house just for a couple
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  Speaker 2: butt plug pictures.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, well maybe whatever, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you never know i'd break into your house for a
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  Speaker 1: couple but plug pictures.
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  Speaker 2: That well, that wouldn't be hard at all. I don't
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  Speaker 2: live in a sky rise apart, but you know, with
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  Speaker 2: fancied future security systems, that would just be as easy
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  Speaker 2: as waiting for someone to be high and get the
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  Speaker 2: mail and then just walk back in.
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  Speaker 1: Or wait for it to be a level on your
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  Speaker 1: Patreon that I can just donate to. Yeah, yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: plug pictures of Keith.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I can't believe we haven't done that yet.
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  Speaker 1: Get on it. You are welcome for the idea. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna make Quincy do it on ours.
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  Speaker 2: There's a wh hour. It's like twenty five bucks. I'll
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  Speaker 2: come on a picture of whatever you want. And I
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  Speaker 2: just was, Keith, what are we doing here? This is
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  Speaker 2: this is a whole like this is a territory in
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  Speaker 2: the worst case scenario that works, and you've just got
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  Speaker 2: to just go good.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to jis on pictures all month.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to coming. Is now your job? Have
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  Speaker 2: you ever? Has that ever been a goal of yours?
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  Speaker 2: To go clock in and crank one out?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta feel like any like like with sex
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  Speaker 2: work or anything like, Okay, it's my job to comet
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  Speaker 2: like being like a webcam buddle or something.
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  Speaker 1: It just seems brutal, you know, Yeah, yeah, fuck it? So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we are talking about aliens. We're talking about specifically, Are
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  Speaker 1: we about to be told aliens are real?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? And before this I thought no way, and now
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  Speaker 2: I think, uh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like it's coming. The thing that inspired this
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  Speaker 1: episode idea was a New York Times article from December
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  Speaker 1: sixteenth of twenty seventeen called Glowing Auras and Black Money,
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  Speaker 1: the Pentagon's mysterious UFO program.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then after like a six hour Twitter meme cycle,
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  Speaker 2: everyone pretty much forgot about it. It's just like everything
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  Speaker 2: these days.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I kind of feel like this is why they
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  Speaker 1: launched that rocket over Los Angeles, because they were like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't forget. Yeah, sometimes there's just stuff in the sky.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, that was creepy that I was. I was
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  Speaker 1: right up on it. I was on the one thirty four.
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  Speaker 1: I was driving out to go do some gigs in Ventura,
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  Speaker 1: so I was right near the launch site and I
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  Speaker 1: just like see it in the sky and I just
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  Speaker 1: pulled over and I was like, well, I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: too dumb to know that this definitely isn't a nuclear
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  Speaker 1: missile or a ship.
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  Speaker 2: So he might be my last moments on Earth. What
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  Speaker 2: am I gonna do?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Take a video and send it to Keith Carey and
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  Speaker 2: Tom Goss and say are you you guys? Freaked out?
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  Speaker 2: Texting my dad, I was like, Dad, is just this
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  Speaker 2: is just a prob something, right. We're cool because he's
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  Speaker 2: you know, pick like knows a lot about aeronautics and shit.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, come on, And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: do I text my girlfriend? I love her? Do I
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  Speaker 2: call my mom? What do I do? I send out
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  Speaker 2: a tweet? For it was preserved my legacy? What am
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  Speaker 2: I doing here?
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  Speaker 1: I could see it from the balcony where we smoked sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can see it right out there. And
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  Speaker 1: what weird me? There was something like that not too
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  Speaker 1: long ago also, and they were just like, no, it
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  Speaker 1: was just a missile test. Just a missile test over LA.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it probably came out of Vanderburgh.
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  Speaker 1: What weirded me out about this one is the trail
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  Speaker 1: of smoke behind it made it look like.
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  Speaker 2: It was just like pulsating and like yeah that and
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  Speaker 2: it made it guy ambo, It.
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  Speaker 1: Made it look like it was going one way and
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  Speaker 1: then went severely off course. Yeah. So then I was like,
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  Speaker 1: where is that gonna land?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? And then, and I would have like for all
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  Speaker 2: the all the griping people do about like amber alerts
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, like, oh, I got this fucking amber alert
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  Speaker 2: on my phone. It's like, send me an amber alert
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  Speaker 2: that just is about to be a fucking spaceship in
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  Speaker 2: the sky and say nothing, nothing to be afraid of.
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  Speaker 2: I'm okay with that kind of totalitarian contact.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been really fucking helpful.
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  Speaker 2: Like, oh cool, Yeah, there's a civic in New Jersey
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  Speaker 2: that's causing problems and I need to know about it.
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  Speaker 2: But everyone can just fucking pull over to the side
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  Speaker 2: of the freeway and think they're gonna die for a
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  Speaker 2: few minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Instead, I had to do what any investigative journalist in
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  Speaker 1: that situation does, and I went on Twitter and just
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  Speaker 1: searched hashtag dt LA.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did the same thing, yeah, because which I
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  Speaker 2: usually do for like weird traffic things or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But oh yeah, whenever I see the police surrounding a building,
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  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, sames a lot. Yeah. The other night,
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  Speaker 1: the police were looking for additional suspects in the shooting
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  Speaker 1: of a female cop at the exact same time I
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  Speaker 1: had to go walk my dog was but it.
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  Speaker 2: And you uh, I mean, Adam, he looks auspicious. I
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  Speaker 2: do any crime, I'd if murder, money laundering, whatever, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like yeah, and low level supervillain type behavior. I'd be like, Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the guy in the Cubs beanie with the with the
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  Speaker 2: Roswell shirt and the and the dog that's there to
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  Speaker 2: make him seem human, he's he's definitely got a hand
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  Speaker 2: in this exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So this article before we get into the article that,
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  Speaker 1: it also included a video that was released and I
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  Speaker 1: swear they've released like three of these videos in the
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  Speaker 1: past couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but this is I I do love this
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  Speaker 2: guy's it's a throne.
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  Speaker 1: Bro. Yeah, that's our military.
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  Speaker 2: I like that it went fucking and then gosh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and this is I don't know when I've heard one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and twenty knots. I was just picturing Don Natza.
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  Speaker 2: Why are these earthlakes so resistant to our new technologies?
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  Speaker 1: That's a reference. It's gonna land with our younger audience.
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  Speaker 2: I got four impressions, dude, dudes, Bill Clinton, Don Knots,
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  Speaker 2: and then you know, gay Bill Clinton, gay Don Notts.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a lot of variation. I gotta play. I
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  Speaker 2: gotta play the cards. I've been dealt here. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: know that video is making the rounds. Everyone was like,
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  Speaker 2: everyone's freaked out for a second. And then just because
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  Speaker 2: we live in an unending cacophony of the holy shit, okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's trending, it was just like, all right, well, I
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  Speaker 2: guess with healthcare is illegal now, all right, I guess
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  Speaker 2: we got to look at that.
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  Speaker 1: It's like and then there was another video I saw
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  Speaker 1: I think it was on CNN. That's a different one
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  Speaker 1: where but it's also released from the Department of Defense.
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  Speaker 1: And in that one, they're following this UFO and it's
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  Speaker 1: shaped like a tic tack. Yeah, and it just stops
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  Speaker 1: and like turns perpendicular. Oh talk about finding the clip,
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  Speaker 1: I mean exactly. But it's and it really feels like
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  Speaker 1: it's coming, like they're they're finally going to be like listen,
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  Speaker 1: this is.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of like okay, Kanye Kanye tweeted you know soon
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  Speaker 2: or something, you know or in any other you think
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  Speaker 2: about a release cycle for Anny, So I go these
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  Speaker 2: leaf photos of eminem outside the def JAM offices in
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  Speaker 2: La like wearing a scary outfit. It's probably gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a New Terrible album soon, Like.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be like the John Mullaney bit about legalizing
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  Speaker 1: weed where forever. We were like, come on, do it
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  Speaker 1: and the government was like no, and then one day
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  Speaker 1: they were just like, all right, we'll do it. It
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  Speaker 1: seems like it's gonna be that where it's just gonna
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  Speaker 1: be one day no aliens, and then next the government's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be like yeah, man, they're everywhere. Yeah, just fucking everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: You have no idea? Are you happy now? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: You know we won't be Yeah. And some of the
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  Speaker 2: ship they get into and that, uh. In this documentary
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  Speaker 2: are going to talk about about how like well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna one of the Operation paper Clip guys. Von Braun,
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  Speaker 2: who invented the V two rocket, I have a I
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  Speaker 2: made a model rocket of that as a kid. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, I used to the model rockets. That was fun,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of I did kind of feel
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  Speaker 2: weird going out to the park with my Nazi rocket.
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  Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, you have a little launch thing. It
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  Speaker 2: was a little electrogy plug into the Yeah yeah, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: not that accurate. It was accurate, but it wasn't like
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  Speaker 2: problematically accurate. Yeah. So and then they're like, well the
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  Speaker 2: bullshift the focus from from Russia to terrorism to third
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  Speaker 2: world countries that are developing, and it's just like, okay, well,
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  Speaker 2: we're at the last phase of the release cycle here,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing about that video, that's the government putting
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  Speaker 1: it out. It's not some dude who was on his
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  Speaker 1: balcony like me filming the Rocket X launch or SpaceX launch. Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 1: this is the government saying, yeah, here's a video of
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  Speaker 1: a thing flying through the air and we don't fucking
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  Speaker 1: know what it is. Sleep Tide America.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's and it's it's almost like freakier because
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  Speaker 2: it's like, well, at least I feel like that guy
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  Speaker 2: on on Peyote in Arizona doesn't have access to a
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  Speaker 2: production team. I mean, he's probably not capable of false
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  Speaker 2: flagging US with Adobe after effects.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's the thing too, It could be fake. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just like, what do you what's the game here?
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  Speaker 2: It's happening.
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  Speaker 1: You know. This article that was in the New York Times,
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  Speaker 1: it revealed the existence of a program called Advanced Aerospace or.
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  Speaker 2: That Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification program. There it is or
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  Speaker 2: a tip if you're nasty.
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  Speaker 1: This program was tasked with investigating reports of UFOs. It
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  Speaker 1: was run by military intelligence official Luis Elizondo from the
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  Speaker 1: fifth floor of the Pentagon's Sea Ring, So that too.
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  Speaker 1: Normally they're like, just sounds scary. It sounds scary. But
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  Speaker 1: also normally they're like, no, I've never where would that
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  Speaker 1: department even be? Yeah, yeah no, Or this fucking secret
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  Speaker 1: X files program. They're like, it's right there. Yeah, Like
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  Speaker 1: there's his office.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he needs many muffins with the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the guys. You know, the dude that's like tapping
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  Speaker 2: your cell phones and the dude that's got all your
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  Speaker 2: nudes on iCloud. You know, they're bumping elbows in the
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  Speaker 2: break room, just like, oh yeah, tough day. I got
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: to fucking stop another fappening, Like hell, hell yeah. These
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: grays are up mind dick about this hybrid initiative. I'm like,
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: we're trying to kidnap more child sexually for you guys. Okay,
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: but I mean, Hollywood's got the market dried up. It's
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  Speaker 2: an issue of scarcity, all right, give me time.
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  Speaker 1: The Pentagon never acknowledged that this was a thing until
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  Speaker 1: The New York Times reached out to him. And even
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  Speaker 1: then the Pentagon said that this program was shut down
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. Yeah, so even then they're acknowledging that, yes,
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  Speaker 1: there was a program where we pumped millions of dollars
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  Speaker 1: into investigating UFOs.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of it's kind of like a bad relationship
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  Speaker 2: where it's like it seems like they'll only tell the
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  Speaker 2: truth if they know they'll get caught lying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it seems exactly like what that is. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm I just I'm curious what it is right now
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  Speaker 1: that's making it. Yeah, that's okay to start telling us
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  Speaker 1: about UFO.
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  Speaker 2: Is it is? It? Is it a thing of like,
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: you know, we have the I gotta figure there's a
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  Speaker 2: few fucking bombshells that they're like, all right, well, we're
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: trying to get this tax bill through, so we gotta, yeah,
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: we gotta. We got a couple of smoke screens up
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  Speaker 2: our sleeves because, yeah, think of all the things Trump
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  Speaker 2: will be able to get away with if fucking aliens land. Yeah,
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be news for everyone. Will be like six months,
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: did you hear about the inheritance tack? And it was like,
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  Speaker 2: did you hear about the fucking beams that rape cow
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  Speaker 2: in the night. Come on, man, bigger fish to fry.
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  Speaker 2: My colon has been cored out. That's the thing that happens.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about. Oh yeah, actually I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: how you do that. I mean I can guess, but god,
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  Speaker 1: that's on the next episode where we meet the Grays.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll get to that.
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  Speaker 2: Uh it, where's Tyler Perry fucking st ever meet the Grace.
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  Speaker 1: So most of the money for this program went to
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  Speaker 1: an aerospace research company run by a man named Robert
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  Speaker 1: Bigelow who is currently building expandable aircraft for humans to
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  Speaker 1: use to travel space.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, you know what. You know what they did
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  Speaker 2: with the man. They use their time travel technology to
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: go back generations and make sure he had a stupid
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  Speaker 2: name so no one would take him seriously. Well, the
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  Speaker 2: thing about Robe developed a as soon as they saw
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  Speaker 2: that he was putting the pieces together, they developed a
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: Rob Schneider series just to undermine his credibility.
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  Speaker 1: The thing about Robert Bigelow I used to do and
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  Speaker 1: I still do it sometimes. I have this whole bit
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  Speaker 1: about space travel in the future of space exploration, and
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  Speaker 1: I bring up Robert Bigelow And the thing about Robert Bigelow,
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  Speaker 1: we're trusting all of this money and like we're pumping
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  Speaker 1: all this money to him to be the person to
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  Speaker 1: basically get humans to space in like a travel way
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  Speaker 1: or just like you and I at some point in
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  Speaker 1: the sand, and we're trusting him to build all the
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  Speaker 1: aircraft to do that. Connor, do you know what he
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  Speaker 1: did in his previous life. He was the CEO and
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: founder of the budget suitees motel chain. So the guy
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  Speaker 1: who runs a franchise with a synonym for cheap in
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  Speaker 1: the name. Now we're trusting him as our last line
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  Speaker 1: of defense between fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Space death to comfortably smoke crack and fuck prostitutes in
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  Speaker 2: a zero gravity environment. And I think I'm qualified.
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  Speaker 1: It blows. And the ship he's working on it's a
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  Speaker 1: fucking balloon, Like it is a balloon that goes to space.
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  Speaker 1: And Russia's working on one too, And Russia's selling point
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  Speaker 1: with Airs is like we'll have Wi Fi and it's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know who else has Wi Fi? Every fucking shitty
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  Speaker 1: motel on Earth. I don't need to go to space
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  Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, And he can't drink on either of them.
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  Speaker 2: That's so funny that it's gonna come down to like
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  Speaker 2: those roadside free away science. She's like, well, Bigelo's got
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  Speaker 2: HBO and frankly I was I'm hoping to catch a
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: Deadwood rerun. So taking his space ball and why don't
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  Speaker 2: we just do the goddamn space elevator thing they've been
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  Speaker 2: talking about forever. That seems to make the most sense
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  Speaker 2: to me, But again, who knows.
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  Speaker 1: What is the space elevator.
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  Speaker 2: They just make a big pole and they fucking lift
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  Speaker 2: ship up into space with it. They just make like
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: a you know whatever, a five mile five mile tower,
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  Speaker 2: and just like, I'm just like, you know, you got
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  Speaker 2: five miles worth of shit line around somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: That seems easy. Just piece it together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So on sixty minutes back in May, Robert Bigelow's that
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  Speaker 1: he is absolutely convinced that aliens exist and that UFOs
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: have visited the Earth.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, have you seen some of those people at
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: those budget motels. I mean, they don't seem like they're
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: from the same biological track.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: It could be all he's talking about. Yeah, I saw
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Sam Shane one night.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: You'll believe I saw something by the vending Machine that
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: that no God would allow to exist not on this planet.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: The program was the brainchild though and mostly most staunchly
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: supported by former Nevada Democrat Senator Harry Reid.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Good old Harry Reid.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of a respectable name. Yeah, I mean
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: we don't. We've never I've never heard anyone write off
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Harry Reid as a crazy politician.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: So yeah, he's just you know, you kind of you're
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: you're running the mill, you know, the neo liberal, practical guy.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a quote from him. I'm not embarrassed
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: or ashamed or sorry. I got this thing going. I
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: think it's one of the good things I did in
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: my congrestational service, of which there are very few, very few.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: I've done something that no one has done before, which
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I think he means he forgot to add without being
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: assassinated at the end of that. Yeah, Yeah, I think
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: JFK maybe did this too. Yeah, there's a part in
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: that documentary where they addressed that. Oh yes, and Clinton,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: and it's creepy as shit they did. Clint did the
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: same thing.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: I read. I read this a great book about him
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: where he's like, as soon as he took off, as
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: he was like, tell me who killed JFK. And then
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: they're like, we can't, and he's like, okay, then I'm
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: really trying to let gay people in the military in
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: a very debating capacity. So I got, I got, I
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: gotta handle this first.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Uh So, Yeah, like I was saying, the Pentagon, they
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: eventually acknowledged it when The Times contacted him, and they
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: said this program ended in twenty twelve. Meanwhile, Elizondo, the
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: guy that was running it, says it carried on until
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: this past October, or he said his duties carried on
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: until this past past October, when he finally resigned to
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: his objections over the secrecy of the program. In other words,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: he's gonna commit suicide soon.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think government programs really end. I mean,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: that's just not really how the government were. I I
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: did a show on a military base over the holidays,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: and I was talking to some of the people on base.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: It was insane Nicholas Island, and they're just like, yeah, sometimes,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the comedy show is good because
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: like they give us an amount of money and we
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: have to spend all of it or else we can't
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: keep asking for more money, so we gotta find shit
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: to spend it on. So thank you guys for coming out.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, yeah, this was just kind
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: of excuse to blow money. This was a terrible show.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I performed for eight people in a diner that serves
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: three things, you know, So I'm just like, a fuck, okay,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: we got it. We really want to ask for a
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: quarterly increase. How many foodsball tables can we fit?
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: He said. The program continued after twenty twelve, but they
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: just hid the funding. So he was still working out
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: of the same office and still investigating all these claims.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: It just wasn't an official thing. And he's as someone
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: did succeed him in that role after he left, so
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: the program's still happening, just not.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and some only that they're not going to just
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: shut it down, you know.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always my argument with MK Ultra. We wouldn't
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: have done that shit for thirty some years if there
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: wasn't some product.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: If we didn't get onto something, you know. And I
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: also just don't think like the way it goes. You know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: how good you are at bullshitting, you know, at any
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: kind of official job you've had where you're like, yeah,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: well my duties here. I mean I mean, if I
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: hadn't caught that zero in the spreadsheet, we would have
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: lost almost seventeen dollars. So I mean, you know, like, yeah,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: you find a way to make yourself seem relevant, whether
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: or not there's actually any results, you know, yeah, being
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: bandied about, and you know, if this guy's believe it
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: sounds like they were. Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: According to Harry Reid, he became interested in the topic
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: of aliens and UFOs in two thousand and seven not
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: only after talking to Robert Bigelow, but also after talking
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: to goddamn John Glenn. The John Glenn. He's been to space.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: So when someone who's been to space has something to
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: say about aliens, I want to fucking listen. Yeah, And
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: John Glenn told him that the federal government should be
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: investigating UFOs more seriously and should be talking to pilots
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: who've encountered strange aircraft. So then Reid met up with
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Senators Ted Stevens and Daniel in Away, who were also
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: involved in the project. During one meeting, Reid said Stevens
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: were counted being tailed by a strange aircraft with no
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: known origin for miles once while flying. But he's also
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: from Alaska, so that could have been just Russia following
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: him around.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: If that's what I means, I don't MiG jets, don't
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: make ninety degree turns, you know, Yeah, it's all that
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: just median And you talk to these people and they
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: know what they're fucking talking about. They know what kind
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: of like flight patterns are attainable by, you know, the
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: technology that they'd be using for that stuff. Yeah.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: John Gorley from Portugal de Man actually has a crazy
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: kind of UFO sort of story that he told me
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: appropriately when we were in Roswell, New Mexico. I believe
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: walking to a buffalo wild wings but it's I don't
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: remember the exact story, but it actually matches up with
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: another story that was reported kind of in the same
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: area he was in later, and it involves like lights,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the trail people. It's crazy. But Alaska is kind of
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: a like you hear a lot of UFO stuff.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: If I was an alien, I would probably go poking
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: around in Alaska. And yeah, because of a couple things,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: sparse population. You know, no one's if I got to
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: go cut out a deer's asshole to make a superman,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's going to miss it. People just
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: think it's Sarah Paley a helicopter with a rocket launcher.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Number two. There's always weird shit going on in this
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: guy with the Aurora Borealis. It is right next to Russia.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: So I'd be like, Okay, I got a pretty good
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: cover story. I can operate in a low profile. You know.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: It's like if you're going to introduce crack, You're like, well, yeah,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I'll go to this neighborhood with no security cameras or
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: you know, people who have anyone that cares if they die.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just like kind of a good play,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Like I'll go up to the attic of Earth and
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: then go start tooling around there you.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Go where the desired results take you.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: So from two eight to twenty eleven, the government pump
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: twenty two million dollars into this program. That's a lot
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: of money just to be following up on reports of
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: UFOs and at one point, this part's weird. At one
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: point as part of the project Robert Bigelow's company. This
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: is a quote from the New York Times article modified
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: buildings in Las Vegas for the storage of metal alloys
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and other materials. Mister Elizondo and program contractors said had
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: been removed from unidentified aerial phenomena. Why did they have
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: to modify the buildings? Yeah, so he was.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: This was a little confusing to me. So it's he's
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: upgrading him to like, is this some shit so Superman
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: can't see and with his X ray vision? Is he
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: hiding his weird secret space metals?
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I wonder if it's like, so aliens don't figure
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: out where these things are? I don't know. Yeah, that's
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: they They don't explain what modified the buildings mean, and
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I want to know that.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's also like if they can fucking if
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: they can fly over Alaska at ninety degree angles and
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: to cut out cow assholes, I'm pretty sure they can
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: pick up a Wi Fi signal and figure out that
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: you've announced that you're doing this.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: And the thing that I feel like they wouldn't say
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: it that way if it was just, oh, we just
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: added some extra security. Well, yeah, it's a government building.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Of course their security. We're all going to assume they
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: did that. Yeah, but what does modify the buildings mean?
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: God damn it. In two thousand and nine, Reid was
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: so encouraged by what they'd found, he wrote a letter
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: to then Deputy Defense Secretary William Lynn the third, asking
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: that the program receive heightened security and protection. This is
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: a quote from the letter. Much progress has been made
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: with the identification of several highly sense of sensitive, unconventional
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: aerospace related findings. And this, I love is a quote
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: from a Pentagon briefing summary of the program.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Quote.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: What was considered science fiction is now science fact. And
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: it also adds the US is incapable of defending itself
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: against some of the technology is discovered.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Fuck, you saw a Battle for Los Angeles with I
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: sure did. What's as fuck? That's not it's not Owen Wilson.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: What's that guy's name?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Uh Aaron Eckhart.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he looks exact he was Harvey Dunn. He
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: looks exactly like Chuck from Dead Rising too, if anyone
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: played that game. Uh yeah, I do Uh. I do
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: love knowing that they're uh that, you know, the Pentagons
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: debriefing people and you know, saying like, yeah, we're pretty
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: much fucked if they decide. I mean, there's a great
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: line in that documentary out Acknowledge where they're like, the
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: very fact that we are breathing the free air of
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Earth means that these people are not, you know, immediately malevolent,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: That's good to know.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I guess that makes sense.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: And you also feel like if you're smart enough, if
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: you have it, if you if you can you know,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: get the infinite energy that's within a cup of coffee,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: that can boil all the waters of all the oceans
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: of Earth, that's like I gotta figure. At that point,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, I don't care what these pink fucking
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: idiots that just you know, like to fuck each other
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: and get in fights are doing that. I don't care, Like,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: you know, they can't mess with our shit, you know,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: So you hope that they're just like, yeah, okay, it's
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: kind of cute. It's kind of like an ant farm.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: We're just checking them out. Well, that's one theory.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the zoo theory no, which is
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: a theory that the reason we haven't been visited by
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: aliens in a really pronounced, obvious way is because aliens
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: view us as basically a zoo an experiment that well,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: not just an experiment, but just a species that hasn't
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: evolved enough to even be able to comprehend what aliens
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: are fucking with.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Oh that's the prime directive in Star Trek. They don't
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: make contact with any pre warp civilizations, you know, which
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I feel like is like, yeah, that's I mean, it's
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: weird that in the you know, the sixties, Gene Roddenberry
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: thought of that, because that's a pretty good way to
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: handle it. You know, I think we had a function
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: al Kouba drive and we could tour the Solar System
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: and the galaxy and those beyond it in a fairly quick,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: you know, efficient way. It's like, yeah, I probably wouldn't
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: want to go monkeying around with people that are you know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: not just in the sticks and Stones age, but the
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: fucking you know, Twitter and goddamn you know room by
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: age that we're in the room by age. That's how
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: that's what I'm gonna discover, Room by age.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: That's our current level technology right now.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: It is funny. I mean, this is like a like
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: a like a fucking pulp you know, like a mind
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: fucks shitty thriller's short story that you'd see a zillion
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: times over. But it's like, yeah, we really could just
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: be like a reality show for aliens where they're just like, oh,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: the new season with the President is fucking great. You
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: guys gotta watch. Yeah, anyway, I have to go, uh yeah,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: well I actually already saw it because my mind is,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: you know, inexorably linked to all of my fellow all
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: of my fellow species.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Another thing from Elizondo's resignation letter. He said the government
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: should be paying more attention to quote the many accounts
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: from the Navy and other services of unusual aerial systems
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: interfering with military weapon platforms and displaying beyond next generation capabilities.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Man, I've gotten into hour long fights about which Tabasco
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: flavor is the best. I can't fuck with a hive mind, man,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: we just can't.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: The thing about have you looked into what's happened with
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the navies. I think it's the seventh fleet in the
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: South China Sea, and how over the past like year
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: they've had eight or nine really huge profile crashes and accidents,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: which is rare because this is the fleet that protects
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: probably the most sensitive region for US in terms of
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: strategic interests, and they're no one's coming right out and
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: saying it, but it's possible that our systems are being hacked,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: like our GPS systems and shit by China, Russia, whoever,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: or maybe it's aliens. Maybe it's aliens, Maybe it is
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the aliens. But they still haven't really I mean they say, oh,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: it's just fatigue and a lack of training, and it's like, really,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: you're the like the like you know.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Like the Navy breaks people into like functioning war machines
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: all they all do. It's like, yeah, this is like
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: you know, you're you're you're good enough for this. I
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: don't think you're just like, you know, sleepy and not
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: used to dealing with the you know, the there's at
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: one point or another been a fuck hotbed like that
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: or many of them. And it's like, you guys, aren't
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: that fucking and I'll give you more credit than that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Alessando and Reid are both adamant that the
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: objects they've found do not originate from any country. This
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: is a quote from Alessando. That fact is not something
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: any government or institution should classify in order to keep
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: it secret from people. Reid says, if anyone says they
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: have the answers, now, they're fooling themselves. We do not know, Nickes.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: It's almost like I feel like you know, because they
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: talk in that tagramentarybody are like, Yeah, the President's just
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: to figure out this shit goes beyond him. He's a
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: temporary employee and he doesn't need to know. I feel
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: like sometimes just a dude with a crew cut and
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: a dark suit goes up to these people and tells
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: him just enough to scare the shit out of him.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: He's just like, so, you want to get back to
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the economy. Do you want to get back to healthcare?
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Does that sound a little easier. I know it's hard
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: to get the people in your district to understand that
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: you've got to make compromises with Paul Ryan, but I
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: think that might be a little bit fucking easier than
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: telling them that their gods are lies and we're under
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: threat from a being that we couldn't possibly begin to understand.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: All right, and also, watch your colon.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah we're going up against going up against Godzilla with
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: sharp rocks. Okay, so you want to go ahead and
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: start giving you a little speech about jobs.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: So yeah, let's talk about We keep referencing a documentary
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: it's called Unacknowledged and it's on Netflix now. It was actually,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I believe the best selling documentary on iTunes in twenty seventeen.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: It's in terms of alien documentaries, it's pretty fucking comprehensive. Yeah,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: and pretty well done.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Man, Man that guy. The fucking selection of scary quotes
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: they play in between the kind of acts is.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I collected some of them.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: You got some good ones.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: The phenomena of UFOs does exist, and it must be
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: treated seriously. That was Mikhail Gorbachev, who's dick. I can
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: assure you that flying saucers, given that they exist, are
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: not constructed by any power on earth. That was Harry Truman,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: a guy who fucking grew up in a dirt road town,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: was a country lawyer. Phil As vackwards into being president.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: He's just like, yeah, these space of a jigs sure
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: are scary, not as scary as Asians. I can't trust them.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Also, that's bottom the Russians. I feel that the Air
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Force has not been giving out all the available information
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: on these unidentified flying objects. You cannot disregard so many
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: unimpeachable sources. That is former Speaker of the House John McCormick.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: He's a pedophile. What does he know? They're all pedophile?
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, Pizzagate hashtag pizzagate. Quote. We have indeed
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: been contacted, perhaps even visited by extraterrestrial beings, and the
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: US government, in collusion with the other national powers of
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the Earth, is determined to keep this information from the
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: general public. That's Victor Marchetti, former Special Assistant to the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Executive Director of the CIA. And last one, I'm convinced
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: UFOs exists because I've seen one that's Jimmy Carter.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: You were just hopped up on moonshine work in your
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: peanut farm.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: There's but that's not I mean they they sprinkle these
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: quotes all throughout and they're all from people who are like,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yeah, they.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: That's a guy. That's a guy.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's recognized that name.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You'll also reckoniz not a lot of like not
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: of Mark Hoppis blink on you know, or Tom DeLong
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I forget which one is that he's the UFO one.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll also recognize the voice in the documentary as
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: that of gian Carlo Esposito, better known as Gus fring.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that until I write into the notes
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: afterwards that it's pretty.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Cool, Diva los pos ermanos. Uh it's all. I love
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: the opening because I can only stomach What a Wonderful
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: World by Louis Armstrong if it's over scenes of utter
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: devastation and destruction.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna eat either the Ramones version or a
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: lot of people running away from Hiroshimo with their skin
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: melting off. That's the only way I can not the
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Ramotes version of the Joy Ramote solo version. Don't tweet me.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I know the main person behind this documentary and the
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: one they talk to them throughout his guy named Stephen Greer,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: m D. Who is the founder of the Disclosure Project,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: which is a thing that was founded in two thousand
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and one basically to disseminate information about aliens and UFOs.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: And he says, right up top, I always said, if
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the government won't do this, I'll do it. And the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: thing about.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Kind of like a kind of like a wiki leaks
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: for UFO shit.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And the thing about Stephen Greer, he doesn't seem
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: at all weird or strange or like your typical conspiracy
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: theory type.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: He a lot of these people in this documentary just
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: look really bummed out that they have to do this.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just like I know that I have to
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: wake up every day with people call me a kook
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: and a weirdo, you know, and it's just like this
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: is just like it reminds me of a calculus teacher,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: just like a buff dude with gray hair who's just like, Oh,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I did everything right, I got all the right degrees.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I work so hard, and I unfortunately it is within
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: my moral personal imperative that I need to be the
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: one who disseonates this information and champions this cause. Boy, howdy,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: what I like to just you know, do learn about
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: algae at a fucking desk in my you know, tenured
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: university position. But uh here I am hell on Netflix.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: This guy probably wishes he was president. Oh, he didn't
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: have to worry about this shit for for sure. One
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: of the first things he brings up is the guy
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Hotel memo or hottle memo g U I H O
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: T T e O. And this is uh it's a
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: memo that's mentioned in the documentary. You can find it
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: on my favorite favorite website that always comes up on
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: this podcast, Vault dot FBI dot gov. Hell yeah, where
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: you can find all your recently declassified documents.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Whoever scanning these things I don't don't do a better job.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I love the fucking scanning grit.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I like the challenge of having to try and
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: read these and knowing it's all in English and I
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: still might not get through it all.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: But this is the guy Hoddle, which is from the
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Roswell incident basically, and this is probably the most famous
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: memo in UFO research history. This is what it reads
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: pretty short. An investigator for the Air Force stated that
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: three so called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: They were described as being circular in shape, with raised
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: centers approximately fifty feet in diameter. Each one was occupied
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: by three bodies of human shape but only three feet tall,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: suits used by speed flyers and test pilots. So that's
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: an official government memo that is on an official website.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: And it's argued that this is kind of where it
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: all starts. Yeah, where, because I mean, if you go
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: in search, you'll find news reports of people saying, oh,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: we found this flying saucer in the desert. A body,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: isn't it and then a couple days later they're like, no, no, no, no, no,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: no no no, that was a weather believe the weather
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: balloon calmed down.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Those were starving children, but it playing dress.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Up and it I mean, that's kind of I think
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: where this all kicks off, and it's the sort of
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: if you believe that happened or not kind of dictates everything.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Like if you don't believe Roswell happened, you're probably not
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: gonna believe any of the alien shit.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well it's kind of Graundzier for all of it,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: and it's like you kind of wonder, like, you know,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: if the stuff Israel the guy who's like job is
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: to justify all this shit creatively, because I remember them
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: talking about like it was this metallic structure that almost
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: was like wood and you'd put a nick in it
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: with your fingernail and it would like heal and regenerate
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: and had all these strange ruins on it. And this
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: guy was like, well that was that was balsa and
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: those ruins. That was a piece of a decorative scotch
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: tape that a children would use. And I just I
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: remember reading and hearing that and I was just like, Okay,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: good on you man, I mean, okay, that's sure.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, That's the thing. It always bothers me the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: that as soon as something's debunked, people are just like,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: that's it, it's debunked, but no one ever looks into
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the person debunking it to see like maybe what their
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: motivations are or maybe if their research is flawed. Also, yeah,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: and you can. You can find a lot of interest and.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Then you just like debunked, debunked, Google debunked, debunk debunked, you.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Know, exactly. So at this point in the documentary, they
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: go into a bunch of detail about the Roswell incident
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: and what was found there. They interview a guy named
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Captain Bill Uhouse. I'm sure if you go out on
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the YouTube's and just search this guy's name, you will
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: find interviews of him literally describing loading a UFO onto
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: a flatbed truck and hal.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: This advanced technology away on a flatbread nineteen fifties truck
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: that like uses ten gallons of deesel to start.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: And there's a few other like retired military types who
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: describe the actual aliens, bodies and things, And that to
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: me is the flip side of that. Oh well, that
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: that argument people make where they're like, oh, okay, well
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: all these people would have to keep a secret for
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: all of these years, and it's like sure, but also
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: by what other people say, it's like I have to
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: write off all these people is crazy, Like every single
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: person in this documentary is just nuts, Like all these
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: retired military people are just insane and making shit up. Bill,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: YOUU house someone's grandfather who served admirably in the military
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: for years and years and years. I'm supposed to look
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: their grandkids in the eye and go, your granddad's fucking lion,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: yeacause I know there's no aliens.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's ridiculous. Yeah.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: It is a thing of just like, how can you
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: be a competent enough person to get to this level?
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: It's not easy to be a fucking aeronautic investigator in
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: the black passion fucking programs of the CIA. You know,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: you've got to be You've gotta, i imagine, be pretty sharp,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: you know, and then you get all the way up
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: there and then it all just breaks you. I Mean, sure,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: the human mind's fragile and everything, but it's just like
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: that wasn't enough of a test of your own personal
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: metal to say like, Okay, maybe this guy's onto something.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's fucking crazy. So the first act
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: of the documentary is basically and they actually separated into
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: first act and second act. The first act is basically
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: just a compilation of interviews from all of these seemingly
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: really credible military and government sources. There's a bunch of
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: accounts of different encounters with UFOs. There's one navy guy
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: who describes how they would go out on this ship
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: and over the loudspeaker they would say, this is a drill,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and all the lights would go down and they were
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: supposed to go on deck and just kind of scan
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: the skies. And then he goes in one time the
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: lights went down and we didn't hear this is a drill,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: and there was a fucking UFO in the sky. And
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: it's like, okay, so that guy's crazy too. All of
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: these people are just like, maybe that's the thing. People
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: are like, oh, so all of these people have to
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: keep would be able to keep the secret this guy couldn't, Like, Yeah,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: this guy's not keep it secret.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: It's I think it's easier to write people off than
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: it is to keep them quiet. Oh yeah, that's a
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: lot of that's a lot of fucking. You know, Mike's
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: from breaking bag showing up with a black bag and
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: you know, killing your power lines with mylar balloons and
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: you know, fucking threatening your family.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Well, one of the people that they talk about, uh,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I was gonna bring this up away at the end,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: and I don't know why I put it way at
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: the end, But one of the people they talk about throughout,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: or one of the people they interviewed throughout this documentary
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: is this former military guy named Special Agent Richard Cody.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: And as I was watching it, I knew.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Sounds like like a young adult, like the Frankie Muniz thing,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: But he's talking throughout this and I'm like, I recognize
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: this guy. I've seen him somewhere, and it finally dawned
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: on me. He's the subject of a documentary called Mirage Men.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: What Richard the number one adult Vegas show on the
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: strip for fifteen years.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: It's fucking fantastic. Yeah, you can track it down. Mirage Men.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: It's a documentary about Richard Cody. His job was to
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: whenever someone say, uh got the right angle, say they
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: were at Roswell and got the right angle of like
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: a test craft that we maybe were developing as the government.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: He would if they went public with that, he would
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: go find those people and give them additional information that
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: was all false, just to discredit them.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's like when people dump wiki leaks and they're
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: just like, all right, this is a bunch of you know,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: fucked up real shit, and we're gonna add a bunch
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: of fucked up fake shit and you're not gonna be
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: able to tell what's what, Like they did with mccron
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: on the day of the election, you know, when they
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: done for that shit and then they just yeah, they
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: did the classic. Remember they just mixed in a bunch
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: of weird shit to kind of, you know, further their
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: own personal agenda whatever the leaker was.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's like that was his sole job. Is
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: if you had if you stumbled upon actual be it
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: UFO information or uh, if you maybe test craft, Yeah
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I thought you saw UFO, but actually saw something you
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have seen.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Our seventy one blackbird back in the day.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he would come and act as an insider and
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: be like, hey, you're onto something. I can get you
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: extra information. And he would give people these completely falsified
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: documents with all these lies in it. So then once
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: that person made that public, the government could go, yeah,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: look at the now, this is all fucking lies, and
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: then they don't have to address the first thing the
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: person brought up. And it's a great documentary. Like at
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: one point he's just walking around a UFO convention kind
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: of like creepily lurking in the background. It's like, that's
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: our government, Like, that's that's what our government's up to.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: You guys in the payroll. That guy has health, that
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: guy's dental.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: You know, he has a fucking pension right now, So.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Got a pension for destroying all right, to know that's
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: a different word, I know that.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: So Yeah. The second act of this documentary basically deals
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: with whether the government could actually keep a secret this
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: big for this long. And one of the first things
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: they point out is that the NSA was just kind
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: of a rumor until Snowden actually provided evidence that it existed.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there's the no such agency joke.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like, of course they can keep a
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: fucking secret if they could keep that from us. Yeah,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: And they also point out in the documentary, no one
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: really knows what the National Reconnaissance Office does Like the
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: NSA is collecting information domestically, obviously the CIA is doing
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: that internationally. Who is the National Reconnaissance Office? Who are
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: they collecting data on?
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like okay, domestically internationally, what other kind of
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: ational are there? Uh, interspace, nationally, interstellarly.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: And it What they basically argue in this second half
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: of the documentary is that the reason the government hasn't
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: told us and the reason you know, the government isn't
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: as privy to this as we would like to believe,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: is that there's basically a second part of the government,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: which is I know that sounds like a fucking Trump
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: argument deep state and all that, but there's basically a
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: second half of the government that works under a black budget, which.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and this is like you know, confirmable and
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: you'll see just like you'll see like just leaked lists
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: of these like creepy titles, you know, yeah, or just
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: like okay, project Valorn and you're like, god, what the
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: fuck that sounds? Gnar Leazelle. I went to an art
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: museum in Phoenix, Arizona, where they had some of the
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: patches from some like some of these classified like aeronautical
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: like programs. In one of them, Oh my god, you
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: can find it. It's fucking creepy. It's just like a
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: like an outer space scene. And then there's like an
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: alien and it says a lifetime of silence behind the
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: green door. And when people talk about it and I've
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: like I google it sense and they're like, oh yeah,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: that's like an inside joke with all the people just
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: pretending it's cooler than it is.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: And it was like, that's exactly what you tell me.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: If it wasn't an.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Inside joke, what is this green door? What do you
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: gonna be silent behind it?
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: And no one putting it? Like that's stupid? Like how
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: stupid does the government think? People are? Well?
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like all of this shit is so
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: spread out on the government is so large. There's bureaucrats
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: that are just very inconspicuous that of a thousand people
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: underneath them, and they're the people that run shit. You know, yeah,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: well they they how much? How like how time consuming
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: is it to be? You know, even if you're the president,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: you're in the executive branch, it's your you know, you
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: can crack the whip on all these people. You can
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: make this executive orders and decide how these programs that
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Congress luggage slates are enforced. Like how there's there's an
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: infinite number of whips to crack. It's a hybrid, it
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: goes all the way down, and there's there's so many
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: fucking people underneath it. How do you You can't keep
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: track of all that? Nobody can?
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: They They tell a I mean, I guess there's no
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: way to confirm if this actually happened, but uh, they
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: tell a story in this documentary about a memo that
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: John Podesta hashtag pizzagate, uh, sent to Obama when Obama
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: first took office. And they show the memo and it's
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: just a list of all the things that happen at
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: what we know as Area fifty one now, which is actually,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I forget the name, oh, the Dallas Air Force Base.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: And it lists all of these weird departments, which one
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: of them, if you look at the memo in the documentary,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: one of them says groom Lake, and groom Lake comes
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: up when we talk about the Grays. That's groom Lake is.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: One of which sounds like a fallout New Vegas side quest,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: but yes.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: It's one of the labs that is tied to this
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: secret deal the government is supposed to have made with
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: the Grays, but that's next episode.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: That It's just so funny to think that there's some
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: dude where they're just like, well, you're the alien diplomat.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: You kind of got to negotiate this. They're going to
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: take the severed assholes one way or another. So I
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: got to kind of figure out some sort of mutually
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: beneficial way to leverage this. And what leverage we have
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: is pretty much nil because again we're still using you know,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: nuclear weapons, and these people have a laser beam that
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: could vaporize the planet seconds or whatever. And it's just
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: I also feel like with these these civilizations, is like
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: if you got to a point you're like, would you
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: even have weapons? Like would you? I don't even think
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: they'd even be thinking about that, you know, I'm sure,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I'm sure like for them to make a weapon, it'd
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: be like for us to like, let's release a brand
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: new pager. It's just like, oh, we don't even do
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: that anymore. We haven't been thinking about that, and like
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: we could figure it out, but okay, I guess we
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: got to kill these people.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so what happens in this story that and it's
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: the what's his name? William Greer is the Stephen Greer.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: He's the one who basically he says that he got
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: a copy of this memo, and he shows the memo
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: and he says he took it to Admiral Tom Wilson,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: who was at the time the second in command at
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the Joint chiefs of Staff, which that's a big fucking
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: position in the government. Like, you're way the fuck up.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean it's and you read about all
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: that shit with Kennedy and the Bay of Pigs and
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: all that stuff, and yeah, there's audio tapes of them
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: just fucking arguing about what to do about the Cuban
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: missile crisis in your just.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Like they're they're they're pretty much like if you're.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: The president, they'll listen to you, but it's like they're
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: they're not gonna necessarily do that.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And Admiral Tom Wilson he gets this memo and
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: he decides to just call Nellis Air Force Base and
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: ring up one of these departments and just he has
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: to be briefed on what they do. And he actually
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: got through and got to talk to someone and he said,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I am Admiral Tom Wilson from the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I would like to be briefed in on what's happening
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: in your department. And he was allegedly told, and this
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: is a quote, we know who you are and you
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: don't have a need to know. I love that.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is so fucking scary that.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: It's terrifying because that blows all of the Oh well,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: so you mean all these people in the government know
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: and they're just not telling No, most of the government
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: probably doesn't know.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think by my representative,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Norma J. Torres of the Chino Valley, I don't think
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: that this woman can walk in in her pantsuit and
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: just be like, what's up with the aliens? They're like,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: shut up, Norma, all right, get back to the zoning
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: issues along the seventy one freeway and let us fucking
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: keep you safe, idiot.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: And yeah, they raise that's kind of the point they
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: raise is that people assume once like you're a senator,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: so of course you know everything happening in the government,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: and they were like, no, like Dick Cheney is someone
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: who would have a need to know, And then maybe
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: they'll shoot him in the head if you ask too
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: many questions.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like, do you think about how you
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: could be pretty fucking dumb and be an elected official.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: I mean you really can't. I mean obviously, I mean
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: this is not just like a Trump. This is every
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: level of government, like you'd like, yeah, it's not like
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Trump is the first dumb politician. It is like, you know,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: we do get to vote, we do get to cast
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: the votes. I mean, they're not just gonna let the
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: will of the people decide that, you know, fucking darryl
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Isa can represent Orange County and then that guy can
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: fucking know what the aliens are up to. I mean,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: it's gotta be a high level and even like, yeah,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: you could. I'm sure you could work your entire life
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: and just never tell a soul that you want to
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: find out what the aliens are And just like I'm
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: gonna learn Arabic and get into the CIA and work
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: my way up from translated to international relations to you know,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: like all the way up to you know, the level
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: where you can get one of the Joint chiefs of
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Staff on the phone.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I think even then they're just like, nah, yeah, you know,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, at any job, there's things that people at
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: lower levels aren't allowed to. When I worked at fucking Cracked,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I remember one time I asked Jack for access to
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: our Google analytics so I could see how my columns
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: were doing, and he was like, nah, yeah, okay, okay, Yeah,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I don't need to know.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I guess I'm all fucking editor, all right, but yeah,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not you, so, but.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: It's and it's and that's that's kind of what it was.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: It's like, well, yeah, I'm not Jack, so it's Jack's decision.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: And I get I'm sure there are people who would
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: assume when I was at Cracked, I knew everything about
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: how our traffic worked and where it was coming from
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: and how money. No.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just told what I was told.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, even have all been we
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: could have been doing ten page views a month, I
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have fucking knew.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: We don't even know who Jack is at the time.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Who is Jack?
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: So at this point in the documentary, they cut to
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: that really famous clip of Hillary Clinton on Jimmy Kimmel
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: basically in the run up to the election, saying, you know,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: because there's there's another clip.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I believe in that moment she was just trying to
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: get the community college about away from Bernie. I think
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: she was just like probably.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: But there's also that clip of Bill Clinton on Jimmy
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Kimmel where he's talking about you and.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Jimmy kim is an alien. This is very clear, and.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: He's talking about you know, aliens and how he thinks
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: there's more to it and blah blah blah. And that's
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: when Greer tells another really interesting story where he claims
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: that he after he had got he'd gathered all this information
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: uh about aliens, which eventually led him to launch this
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: disclosure project. Before he launched that project, he took all
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: of this information to basically to the government and received
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: a response that was basically, Hey, the work you're doing
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: is really good and we're impressed by it, and the
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: president cannot pursue it. And he pushed them a little more.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: He was like, if I recall correctly, the response they
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: gave him was something like, you know, he doesn't feel
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: comfortable pursuing this or pushing this agenda, blah blah blah.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: And he was like, oh, whatever, he's the president. If
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: he didn't want to be president. He should have got
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: the job. And they were like, well, we're worried about
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: protection and we don't know, and the sky laughs and
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: it's like protection, I don't need protection, and they're like, no,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: the president. We don't know if we can protect the president.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: And it's like, I think they actually say the phrase,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: we don't want him to end up like Kennedy. Yeah,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: And that is one of the big rumors or conspiracies
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: behind the Kennedy assassination is that he was like, let's
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: fucking talk talk about these aliens in public and they
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: were like no.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and that whole speech about secrets, societies and
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: everything else else. Yeah, It's like he was he was
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: like into so much of that shit and just was
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: like I want to be the guy that changes this
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: and then shot that motherfucker in the head for some
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: reason or another, and then the this was our this
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: is our our great champion. Is it just a philandering,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: fucking guy hopped up on meth with a dumb accent
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: and we're like that was our best shot? Wow? Nice?
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: And they through the rest of the documentary they also
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: touch on government. I think the most terrifying part of
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: The documentary is where they talk about government influence in
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: mainstream media, and at one point there's this constitutional lawyer
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: who's like, I have a list of like forty CIA
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: operatives who work as journalists and writers at mainstream media outlets,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: and they talk about all these instances where stories have
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: gotten to like the upper levels at Time or the
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: New York Times or wherever, and they just get squad
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: because for matters of national security. They have quotes from
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: people who worked in the government saying, yeah, sometimes we
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: just have to reach out and tell them not to
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: run stories because it will damage our national interest. So
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: then these stories end up in tabloids and shit where
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: we can just go, ah, whatever, it's a fucking inquirer.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: That'sh it's not true.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a thing of like you think, like, okay, well,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: we're not like Britain. It's not like our fucking you know,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: our leader can just slap a din notice it's something
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: and keep it from the people. And it's just like, no,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: we're just doing that. We just don't. We don't call
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: it a dino.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And they one of the points they make is
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: the government's best tool in fighting aliens is just this
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: inherent belief that most people have that aliens aren't real,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Like they just hear it and just kind of bristle
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: at the idea and dismiss it right away. And that's
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: a hard thing to get passed.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I guess everyone's just kind of like, you know,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: why wouldn't they just drop down in Times Square and
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: say take me to your leader.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And as is pointed out documentary, and it's Greer
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: who says this, it's not so much we don't have
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: the evidence that these aliens are necessarily hostile towards us,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: but we do kind of have evidence that they're worried
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: about our hostility and what we might do if they
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: come down here.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they seem i mean fair enough not to trust them.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: What do we do to see an independence day? Yeah,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: they saw District nine and they're like, yeah it.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: So that's you know, it's uh, it's I really think.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: That if you're if a species gets that smart, where
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: you live in this like techno socialist like Marco Polo
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: reality where you just want to go and explore the
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: universe and you're and you're not worried about, you know,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: keeping the rainforest alive. You're worried about entire star systems
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: where these little germs of of civilizations have developed to
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: a point where they can have your technology, and you're like, well,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: I don't want to. Well, the delta quad and it's there. There's
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of plasma in that, you know, and
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: we use that for our space or whatever the fuck
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: it is. It's some kind of altruism or curiosity or
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: just the innate desire to learn. I don't think they're
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna be I don't think you
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: can get that smart and beat and be a warring people.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: I don't think you could to that point like that.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, that kind of does make lot
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: more sense to me that they're just like, yeah, we're
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: worried you're just gonna blow not only us up, but
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: yourselves up.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Sobody, yeah, so yeah. And they also talk about how
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: this influence has also spread to like academics and scientists.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: There's a quote, one more scary quote from a scientist
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: named Frank B. Salisbury, PhD. He says, I must admit
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: that any favorable mention of flying saucers by a scientist
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: amounts to extreme heresy and places the one making the
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: statement in danger of excommunication by the scientific theocracy. Why
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: is there a scientific theocracy?
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what a word to pick. Yeah, yeah, but I
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: mean it's it's true, I mean.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: And they cut. Then they cut to a clip.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Of building everyone's gonna fucking huddle a little closer around
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: the lunch table if they see you walking up after
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: you point out that the fucking data doesn't add up.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: And then you know, they argue that people like Carl Sagan,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: who has said on multiple occasions there's no proof of aliens,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: he didn't always say that, and then at one point
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: just kind of switches course. And their argument is that
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: people get intimidated, like the government will send someone out
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: and be like, hey, shut the fuck up. Now, people
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: listen to you, and we don't want them to listen
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: into what you're saying.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just get him used to the idea of
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: a space, time and gravity first, all right. You know,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: it's like you want to get your girlfriend into Star Trek.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: You don't start with Deep Space nine, all right. You
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: start with City on the Edge of Forever, and you
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: work your way in.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: And they show a clip of Bill Nye, who is
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: a staunchly opposed to the idea that aliens might exist,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: and I don't buy that. Yeah, I don't think Bill
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Nye is. I feel like he's too smart to honestly
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: believe that there's no chance aliens exist.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I weird personal connection. My high school girlfriend used
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: to swing dance with Bill n I from time to time.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: That is an interest connection.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think that someone who enjoys swing dancing
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: might be too dumb. But yeah, that's a good point.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't know Bill NY's actual credentials. Yeah,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: and he's he's kind of taken on the scientific role
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: of explaining fairly basic shit to people. Yeah. I saw
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: a fucking Instagram post McCall I went to high school
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: with about how I wonder who paid Bill Naya to
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: tell us all that vaccines are bad. I'm pursuing an
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: alternative vaccine lifestyle for my baby. And I was just like, oh, yeah, unfriend,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: you is bumming me out. Oh that's that's grim way
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: to your kid in the crutches at some point later, So.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what do you think? Are we about
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: to find out aliens are real? Or do we already know? Like?
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Is that video like that UFO video that they released
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: in December is weird. It's gotten to a point because
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: it's normally the government who's supposed to step in and
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: say no, you know what this is.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they're they're teasing it. It's just like a
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: new Pindric album. Ow he changed his avatar blacks coming
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Cloverfield movie. We're just seeing these grain fucking videos. Yeah,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: and it's it's kind of a point where ship is
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: so fucked up. If you're gonna pull the unifying crisis card,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: you are, You've got that motherfucker in your hand ready,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: all right? Oh yeah, you know it's I I really
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: think it could. I think I'll probably see it in
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: my lifetime, you know. I think we'll see it in
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: our lifetime.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That that comes up in the documentary too, that
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: it could just be we'll launch some sort of false
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: flag alien invasion kind of thing. Yeah, which that would
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: be worse.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: That would be worse, and it would be way worse.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: And you see all the ship like you know, like
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: the whole who killed the Electric Car thing, and they're like,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: why why do we steal all of Tesla's papers? And
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: it's like, I don't really think Tesla is onto infinite energy.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: I think he was fucking kind of crazy. He was
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: friends with pigeons. I mean I think that's you know,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: with Mike Tyson as any guy, that's sort of a
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: red flag. But it's like, yeah, we do kind of
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: we do kind of squash innovation if it doesn't fit
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: into the the economy, Oh yeah.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: I mean you think the people pitch capital is is
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: this kind of like, well, yeah, the best ideas rise
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: to the top. And it's like, you know, yeah, your
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: typewriter business went out of you know, you know with
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: win under and you should have you know, saw the
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: commuters were coming and invested in you know, the circuitry research,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: and it's like yeah, kind of but I think with
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of shit, you sort of just like, yeah,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: we a whole bunch of the our whole fucking shit
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: is running on oil. And it's like I don't want
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: to have to do all the paperwork to restructure. Oh
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: my god, these gas station employees are gonna be pissed.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: We gotta bowl those those and eat with the free
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: energy that's gonna be a lot of it, you know what,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: fuck it, just no aliens. We gotta wait until these
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: literally fingers centimeters away from the button before they're like, well, aliens,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: we gotta deal with this over and look at this,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: we gotta okay, we'll save the super aliens for when
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: that doesn't keep everybody freaked out and you know, pacified
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: any more.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: So Yeah, it's I feel like it's gonna happen. I
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: feel like we'll see it soon. Trump seems like the
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: kind of president that would he'll do something alien related
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: to try and get elected re elected probably.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and no one, no one's really telling him. Shit, Yeah,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: that's no one. No one is these guys. These guys
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: weren't gonna tell Bill Clinton, were JFK. Trump.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Uh, Now that we're thinking about it in a historical context,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I really hope Trump pushes the CIA to aliens. Yeah,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: solely because I want to know about aliens baby, no
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: other reason.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's it's almost funny, like you wish
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: he had just like drained the swamp, so to speak.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: And even if they were like, you know, these these
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: horrible neo con operatives that had fucking malicious intentions, he
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: did just completely staff the government with all these people
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: and instead of you know, just going to the same
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: old party hacks that you know would have happened if
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Ted Cruz had taken office. It's like, yeah, maybe if
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: you would have done that, some one would have shot
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: him in the head like that.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Exactly, all right, So we should wrap this up. We're
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: gonna the next episode, since we're we're on the verge
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: of learning about aliens and how they might even already
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: be here, We're gonna talk about the aliens, will probably
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: the Grays on an episode called Meet the Grays. It's
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: gonna be uh, it's gonna be a thrill ride.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot of a lot of a
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: lot of dissected butthole talk.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of If you wondered why we kept
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: going back to Cord Colan's The Alien Ready.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: To Learn, I want to see the alien infomercial where
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Alien Martha Stewart is like, you can harvest a human
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: butthole for experiences and just the flick of a wrist,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: what do.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: We have to plug before we get out of here?
• 1:00:29
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• 1:00:38
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• 1:00:41
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• 1:00:46
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• 1:00:49
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• 1:00:52
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• 1:01:03
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• 1:01:06
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• 1:01:08
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• 1:01:11
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• 1:01:14
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• 1:01:15
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• 1:01:18
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