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- 0:59twenty two baby, deal with your CCHS the voice of Charleston. Good Thursday
- 1:03morning to your nice sunny skies here in the Capital City. I'm Jeff Jenkins,
- 1:07and Harvey Payton is here because this is his time. Harvey Payton with
- 1:10the Peyton Law Firm in Nitro. Three oh four three four five fifty eight
- 1:14fifty eight Three oh four three four five fifty eight fifty If you've been listening
- 1:19to this station for the last quarter century. You've heard Harvey on Thursday mornings.
- 1:23He's here, he's ready to go to answer any questions about the law.
- 1:26Good morning, sir, Good morning Jeff. Of course, for the
- 1:30last twenty years has been either me or oldest boy Tom, who practices law
- 1:34with me at the Peyton Law Firm in our office. In twenty one,
- 1:38First Avenue in Nitro. Again, A beautiful day, good day for baseball.
- 1:44Right, yeah, I see you've got your red got my Red's tie
- 1:47on. Well that's not a red tie, but it has the reds logan.
- 1:49It does, it does, yes, sir. So what do you
- 1:52think about the Reds Well, I am after the way they played last year
- 1:57with their winning record, I'm cautiously optimistic, but have suffered some injuries in
- 2:00spring training. That could all comes down to pitching. Yeah, it all
- 2:04comes down to pitching in the major leagues. You know, you look at
- 2:07the I was listening to the Fellows on the air yesterday talking about all time
- 2:10pitching staffs. We'd be hard to take a look at the the Red Sox
- 2:15or the Baltimore when they played the Dodgers, you know years Oh my,
- 2:22yes, I mean really oral Horse Sizer and you got the receiver and you
- 2:25got Don Drysdale. And I mean I can remember when Drysdale and was pitching
- 2:31for the Dodgers. I mean it was just real baseball. Well it's real
- 2:36baseball now, but I mean it's it seems to have lost suns. It's
- 2:39the expansion. You know, that's not obviously that the talent level has.
- 2:44It's probably water down to town the same way with the NFL. You know,
- 2:46you've got more teams, but then again, we've got a bigger country,
- 2:49so we're producing more talent across the board. Look forward to it.
- 2:53It's always fun to sort of follow. I'm not a big baseball follower,
- 2:55but I checked the standings about every day to see who's who's square. So
- 3:00if you're watching a game on TV, or you know, trying to make
- 3:04a practice, if I'm in a major league city, Uh, I used
- 3:07to do that a lot when I traveled a lot with business. You know,
- 3:12if you were in San Francisco, you go see a game at Candlestick
- 3:17at that time, go across. I've tried to see you know, Oakland
- 3:23played the Texans. Uh didn't get to see that game. But the pitching
- 3:29rotation was altered so the big guy could finish up at home at Cleves games
- 3:34in Cleveland at the old stadium when they played the Yankees. But yeah,
- 3:37I mean it's it's a great game to watch live. Uh TV sort of
- 3:42drags a bit, not so much anymore. Now they got the pitch clock.
- 3:46And they used to have some characters. I can remember Pee Wee Rees
- 3:49and Dizzy Dean doing broadcast. How old are you, Well, I'm old.
- 3:53I can remember Dizzey Dean was he was he was really something on the
- 3:57air, right he was. The lines are open. Here's Harvey's here.
- 4:00Any questions about the law? And I got a text question hard Okay,
- 4:03a good deal. So the number to call is three or four three four
- 4:06five fifty eight fifty eight to ask Harvey any questions about the law? Three
- 4:10or four three four five fifty eight fifty eight. And this comes from Robert.
- 4:14Okay, could you explain what a land contract is, why it is
- 4:20sometimes used, and what advantages disadvantages are to the property owner? Okay,
- 4:28so land contracts? And then also, are there any county regulations they were
- 4:31to make it different in different counties. Well, there are no county regulations
- 4:39anywhere that I'm aware of. It would affect the matter in which property is
- 4:44financed. And the land sale contract is a mechanism, it's somewhat dated,
- 4:50of financing the sale of a piece of real estate. You know, you've
- 4:56got a seller who has a piece of real estate they want to sell,
- 5:00a buyer who wants to buy. Now, the customary procedure is the buyer
- 5:02would go to a lender, a bank, a credit union that's usually the
- 5:09source, or you go online to an online lender, loan depot, whatever,
- 5:13and you make an application for a loan, and then the buyer is
- 5:16required to put up a certain percentage of the sale price as a down payment.
- 5:21That's to assure there's enough equity or net cash in the property so that
- 5:26if the lender has to take it back if the loan's not repaid, they'll
- 5:30be able to make themselves whole. That's just conventional mortgage financing. A land
- 5:36sale contract and mortgage financing. The seller actually executes a deed conveys the property
- 5:44to the buyer. Now, the seller gets their money right then, because
- 5:46the loan proceeds plus the down payment are turned over to the seller. You
- 5:51walk away. You have no further interest in the property. You got your
- 5:56money. Now the interest in the properties between the buyer and his lef If
- 6:00the buyer makes his payments, keep the taxes up, keeps the property insured,
- 6:05doesn't let it become two rundown, so that loses value. Well.
- 6:09In that case, when he pay off the lender, either at the time
- 6:13they resell or when they pay it off over time, they get a release
- 6:16that's recorded and the property is there is free and clear. That's the conventional
- 6:20method. Now number two, there's what's called owner finance. That's where the
- 6:28owner gets a down payment and conveys title to the buyer, but the owner
- 6:34stands in place of the lender. They take what's called a mortgage or adeda
- 6:38trust. The title passes to the buyer. They own the property, they
- 6:43pay the taxes, the insurance, it's theirs. They have the right to
- 6:45sell it without any consent from the seller, and they pay the seller back
- 6:49over a period of time with the rate of interest. If they don't pay,
- 6:54then the seller, just like the lender in the first situation, as
- 6:57the right to institute foreclosure, sell the property on the courthouse steps, and
- 7:01if it doesn't sell, they essentially take it back for the balance due and
- 7:05resell it. That still leaves that leaves the risk of loss with the seller.
- 7:13And I can tell you that I always explain the sellers under those circumstances.
- 7:18And we're going to get to land sale contract. Just a segment to
- 7:20set the stage. You realize you're putting yourself in the banking business here,
- 7:26right, And banks when they set their interest rates for loans, they calculate
- 7:30they're going to have so many defaults. They operate on maybe a two and
- 7:33a half percent default rate. We're going to have to take back one or
- 7:38two percent of these properties we loan money on. It's built into our rate.
- 7:42Now, if you put yourself in the banking business by being an owner
- 7:46financer, and you have one piece of property, then if that loan defaults,
- 7:51you have a what a one hundred percent default weight and you cannot build
- 7:56that into any affordable interest rate to sell that property. And will be people
- 8:00come in and say, well, they won't pay I'd like to forecloses,
- 8:01So we'll get ready to pony up about twenty five hundred and three thousand,
- 8:07four thousand dollars. Why Well, because you've got to run and had the
- 8:09paper. You've got to send out specific notices. You have to have a
- 8:13sale conducted on the courthouse steps. You have to write a report of sale.
- 8:16You have to take a deed. You got to pay tax stamps on
- 8:20the deed. You got to pay recording fees. You got to pay the
- 8:22lawyer's fees. You have to go search the title to make sure there's not
- 8:24an intervening tax lane. So just get ready, well gosh it say,
- 8:28Okay, you put yourself in the banking business. You can't spread the risk.
- 8:33You can't spread the risk. Now, those are the two sort of
- 8:35conventional title passes to the buyer, risk goes to the lender, or risk
- 8:41of law, risk of default days with the seller. Obviously, the clear
- 8:45preference for any property owner is tell them to go get the money. If
- 8:48they can't bar the money, why do you want to rely on their credit?
- 8:52You have a bank want underwrite this. Now you get to the old
- 8:56thing called a land sale contract. You the seller enters into a contract with
- 9:01the buyer. Mister seller goose to mister buyer and says, you can buy
- 9:07this piece of property. You pay me maybe a small down payment, and
- 9:13you pay me x number of dollars a month under this contract, and when
- 9:18you pay this loan off, I will give you a deed. Don't get
- 9:22a release. There's no lean The property stays on the books and the seller's
- 9:26name. The buyer takes occupancy, they assume certain responsibilities under the land sale
- 9:33contract to pay the taxes, pay the insurance, they care of the up
- 9:35keep the utilities, and to pay X number of dollars to the seller every
- 9:41month. But on paper, if someone goes to the courthouse, seller still
- 9:45owns the property. The taxes stay in the seller's name. If a win,
- 9:50the property is either sold to a third party or the money's paid off,
- 9:54then the seller executes a deed transferring the title of the pri property to
- 10:00the buyer. That is the third that is the least preferred. It is
- 10:05the most fraught with problems for a seller and a buyer. Now, the
- 10:11seller may prefer it because it gives them an interest in the properties to get
- 10:16their money back without foreclosure. But what do you do if you're a seller
- 10:22and the buyer who has this contract runs down to the courthouse and puts it
- 10:26on record for their protection. Okay, then the buyer can't pay the money
- 10:31and they depart for warmer climbs for parts unknown. Well, then you've got
- 10:35a contract on record that that is a cloud on your title, and nobody
- 10:41to sign a release or any notification that that contract's expired. What do you
- 10:46do? So then you can't do much with your property unless you want to
- 10:50spend the money to go bring an action to quiet title in the circuit court
- 10:54and have it cleared, or unless you want to continue to do business and
- 10:58sort of the underground real estate market and sell it again to another buyer who
- 11:03can't buyer the money, can't make a down payment, and who's risky.
- 11:09We don't refer them. We don't like to write them. If I write
- 11:11one for anybody, oh I just don't do it because I'm too old with
- 11:13that. I just tell people, Look, you want to do this,
- 11:16you can do it, but it's just going to have problems on both sides.
- 11:22What do you do if you're the buyer and it's mont Paul Kettle,
- 11:26who are in their eighties who sell you the home place? And if Mont
- 11:31Paul Kettle die, you pay off the loan to somebody, well who you
- 11:33can get to sign the deed? Well, nobody probated Mont Paul Kettle's estate.
- 11:39Do So, you're sitting there with a piece of property title to somebody
- 11:43else, the titles vested in someone besides who you had the contract with,
- 11:50and it's up to you to sort it out and to pay the money and
- 11:52spare the money and expense. It's not recommended. I don't recommend them to
- 11:58anybody. I mean, if you want to do it, it's a property,
- 12:01enter and take that chance. You can take the chance. But remember
- 12:07when the thing go south, don't come back and wind to the lawyer about
- 12:11how much it's going to cost to straighten it out, because you were warned
- 12:13to start with. And that would be my moment. On landsale contracts,
- 12:20they exist, people use them, They're unfavored, they're fraught with risk for
- 12:26both sides, and it's not something that we would recommend that the Peyton Law
- 12:31Firm or even do if you ask us to do it, to be honest,
- 12:35because it's just too much trouble down the road. Right, Okay,
- 12:39all right, so there's the text question. Yeah, yeah, I think,
- 12:41thanks you. So we're going to take our break and the phone lines
- 12:43are open to three oh four, three four five fifty eight fifty eight.
- 12:46Three oh four three four five fifty eighty fifty eight. Harvey Payton is here
- 12:52with the Peyton Law Firm in Nitro again three oh four, three four five
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- 15:37So the governor he did completed his duties. It let a couple of
- 15:43bills go into law without his signature, the unemployment bill and the raw milk
- 15:48bill without his signature. And then but did veto the vaccination? Yeah?
- 15:56Well yeah. The governor has the option when the legislat after the legislature can
- 16:00includes a sixty day session, then they no longer have the right to override
- 16:03a veto what they can do with the simple majority. So bills that are
- 16:06on his desk when the session ends, the governor can sign him into law,
- 16:11generally bills that they want to sign, or they look at you as
- 16:14a public look for a good boy, I am. You want to sign
- 16:18those, you can have a signing SECRETIPS ceremony if you've got a veto of
- 16:21the bills. I mean, he vetoed one right off the bath, the
- 16:25two million dollars for research funding at WVU. I think the reason it was
- 16:30because it was larded up with four million dollars of sort of undesignated funds.
- 16:34And I can understand that veto didn't look good. It looked as if he
- 16:38was against Alzheimer's research. But that wasn't the explanation. My guess is to
- 16:42revisit that sure I revisited and traveled down. Or the governor can just wait
- 16:48for a certain period of time after the session adjourneds and bills that he hasn't
- 16:52vetoed just become law without his signature, which was the raw Milk bill.
- 16:57I mean, those aren't you don't already have an objection to him, but
- 17:00you don't want to put your name on them necessarily, So well, let's
- 17:03let it go into law and that the governor course can exercise his veto authority,
- 17:07which he did. And one of those bills was the bill that would
- 17:11have weakened the mandatory vaccination of children. I expected a veto. I didn't
- 17:18think that the governor when he took a position that was pretty strong in favor
- 17:22of vaccination during the COVID crisis, and given the fact that he was into
- 17:26public schools. He's a coach at a high school in Greenbrier County, and
- 17:32you've got the teachers, got school nurses, you've got all the pediatricians,
- 17:37the pediatric associations, public health officers saying look, if you take this first
- 17:42step to weaken vaccinations, you're endangering the general well being of our young people.
- 17:48And in light of that, the bill, Now there are those in
- 17:52the legislature who say, well, this is another step towards our freedoms.
- 17:57Quote free, Well, to me, that implies I mean, I find
- 18:02that offensive. First of all, there's a difference between freedom, liberty and
- 18:07license. That is a license to do whatever you want to do, anytime
- 18:10you want to do it, regardless the the fact it may have on the
- 18:14community at large or the public good as determined by the collective spirit of the
- 18:18people in the community. That means licentiousness, That means anarchy, that means
- 18:23it's not local control. When you say, well, an individual teacher gets
- 18:29decide whether he carries a gun, not the Board of Education. Well,
- 18:32that's not local control. That's simply individual license to do what you want to
- 18:34do, regardless of the sense of the community in which you live. So
- 18:41we'll set that aside. And it was a good thing we have. You
- 18:47know, if you say, well, our freedoms dictate that we don't factually
- 18:49our children would apply to me that. When I grew up in the nineteen
- 18:52fifties, I mean, I can remember the fear of polio. I can
- 18:57remember people I went to school with. I can name you three lawyers that
- 19:03I knew from Saint Albans who had a limp, who had visible deformities because
- 19:08of polio. I can name you children who were near my age who were
- 19:14in an iron lung in a hospital in Milton because of polio. That parents
- 19:18were terrified in the summertime, if it was a hot summer, that the
- 19:21polio virus. We had a president of the United States who was confined to
- 19:25a wheelchair for the balance of his life, who had polion. How we
- 19:29delightfully, I didn't not delight for me. I didn't want to get a
- 19:32shot. I was a little kid when we got the first vaccine. When
- 19:34the second vaccine, you know, the ooral came out, people lined up
- 19:38by the hundreds at various schools to be vaccinated. I have a small Parks
- 19:44vaccine mark on my arm, as most people in my generation. A disease
- 19:48has been eradicated by it, but it's there. The virus is there.
- 19:53It's there in nature. The measles virus is there, and then the mumps
- 19:57virus through bellovirus, the whooping golf virus is there in nature. It's held
- 20:02at bay by vaccinations. So were we less free when Dwight Eisenhower was president
- 20:07and America stood as a beacon of freedom and democracy around the world. Where
- 20:12we less free? When John Kennedy said, let the word go out from
- 20:15this play forward, painting price, barony, burden for liberty, freedom,
- 20:21You know where were less free? When Ronald Reagan was president, talked about
- 20:23the nation as a shining because we had childhood vaccinations. Foolishness. It's simply
- 20:29an appeal to individual license to get votes period. Paragraph in my masturbations,
- 20:33I think the governors to be applauded. He probably could have gotten more votes
- 20:38from the Waco crowd had he signed the bill, but he did the right
- 20:44thing. And you know he did the wrong thing on the solar energy bill
- 20:48earlier in the week, vetoed a solar energy bill that was supported by almost
- 20:52every economic development entity, by the power company, by a clear majority of
- 20:56the legislature because you said it would quote hurt the coal in street. Well,
- 21:00he's in the coal business. You couldn't have a conflict of self interest
- 21:04anymore apparent than that. But he's redeem himself now with this. So we'll
- 21:10see. Now the thing we'll really see about, like the idea about the
- 21:12text. That's a good thing because a lot of people don't call. I
- 21:15mean, I've heard people say I'll call the office, but I didn't want
- 21:18to call in the here because people recognize my voice. Well, if we
- 21:21have a text, that's good and that's like our in our office. You
- 21:23get a Peyton Lawfirm dot com if you've got a question, say you've had
- 21:27an automobile accident and you're not sure whether you need a lawyer or not.
- 21:32You don't know whether Well it might be the biggest law firm in the world
- 21:34talking to me on the radio, but you know, I just don't know
- 21:37about that they say the guy is not not a license in West Virginia.
- 21:41I'd like to talk to somebody that I could know. Well, you can
- 21:45go online to our website Peyton Lawfirm dot com and you can send it's essentially
- 21:49a text to chat an email that only comes to either me or my son
- 21:52Tom, and we just get right back and answer those usually within the day.
- 21:56Sometimes I'll wake up at night sometimes, like everybody does, you get
- 22:02a bit early two o'clock in the morning, Bang, sit down and get
- 22:06your phone and answer your emails. That's a really good thing, and that's
- 22:11one of the things that we do at our office that we're here to help
- 22:17you. We would like to help you if you've got the case. Obviously,
- 22:22our primary source of inkuy. My primary work is civil plaintiff oriented.
- 22:27That is consumer oriented. Litigation include automobile accidents, industrial accidents, so security
- 22:33disability. It also includes disputes you've got with an insurance company. Some people
- 22:40may have a dispute about titled to the real estate. That's also a litigation
- 22:44matter, and I've handled those quite frequently. It may involve how you feel
- 22:48someone has done you wrong through the administration of an estate or in the state's
- 22:52being improperly administered. You know, a lot of these estates involve a lot
- 22:57of money, and we get a lot of money on the table, and
- 23:00some you know, the folks who will qualify as personal representatives or relay people,
- 23:03maybe they don't get the right advice. Maybe they get a little Larscitie
- 23:07in their heart. Maybe you just need to understand what the process is.
- 23:11You can call us and you know, if it's something we can help you
- 23:15with, we'll deal with it on the tele, on the on the email,
- 23:18back and forth. And then when it's the point, well you need
- 23:21a lawyer, you need to come in and talk to us. We'll talk
- 23:23to you about what we have to be paid to do this. You can
- 23:26pay us and we'll do the job, and we do a really good job.
- 23:30Excuse me, I've had a cold since I got back and down last
- 23:33week. And if it's an if it's a case it's of a contingent nature,
- 23:38as an automobile accent case or insurance matter, then generally that they require
- 23:45a lot of work and the investment of a lot of resources. Our recovery
- 23:48is contingent upon your recovery, so we don't get paid unless you win or
- 23:53we are able to get you some money or something of value to make right
- 23:57for the wrong that was done to you. So that's why I'm glad to
- 24:03see we do some tax. They get taxed in a lot of places,
- 24:04and we don't have a tax to a call right now, I don't think
- 24:08so. I want to say one other thing about in May. Again.
- 24:14We talked about this last week, but please remember, you know, because
- 24:18of the disproportionate sort of super majority in you know, Republican voting in the
- 24:22state, some Independents, some Democrats that may shy away from the polls,
- 24:30but you do have somebody to vote for. Everybody has someone to vote for
- 24:33in this election. That's because we have two seats on the Supreme Court.
- 24:37Now they're unopposed right now. Then they're going to be out apposed. That's
- 24:41Hailey Bunn, Justice Bunn. And we've got a new person, Charlie Trump,
- 24:45who's the Senate Judiciary chairman right now, a good man from over in
- 24:49Berkeley County. And then we've got a seat available on the Intermediate Court of
- 24:55Appeals. And we've got a canaw County wonderful candidate and Ryan running for that
- 25:00I think there's someone else, maybe from a couple more wheeling, but that's
- 25:04on the ballot. And then every circuit judge and every magistrate, they're all
- 25:11up for election and there's no primary. It's a non partisan race. The
- 25:15person with the votes or the plurality of the votes in the May primary for
- 25:18these judicial offices, that is who your judge, magistrate, Supreme court justice
- 25:25is going to be. So they're selecting people who have the right to exercise
- 25:30their judgment over you. Now, they won't take office or be sworn in
- 25:36if it's a reelection until January the first of twenty twenty five, but the
- 25:40election is dismay. It's important to remember that even if you think, well,
- 25:47you know, I've always been a Democrat. I'm not going to change
- 25:48my registration. I'm not going to go vote. I'm not going to send
- 25:52in an early voting. I'm not going to send in an absentee because hey,
- 25:56what the heck I don't have but one can it? Well, you
- 25:57do, and it's really important. Every one of those judicial candidates that's on
- 26:02the ballot is an important vote, and you should go vote and express your
- 26:07interest in who you want to exercise their judgment over you period in here in
- 26:15Kanawak County. That actually there's an additional seat and an additional circuit judge.
- 26:21Right, we've got two two in Kanah County because Kanah County is a busy
- 26:25county, and they've now got an eighth circuitjise and an act what's eleventh magistrate?
- 26:29Yeah, I think so eleven. Yep, we're going to be elected
- 26:33fresh and new. I think there's one contested case on the circuit judge.
- 26:38Yeah, there's a contested race there in that forge lightly kind of lightly.
- 26:41It's a long time quite experienced judge being challenged a grudge match by Greg Thomas.
- 26:48His girlfriend is running because Greg's mad about Judge Bailey's ruling in a case
- 26:52that's pretty much boils down to that alless. She takes a beautiful grammar glamour
- 26:56shot and will say that, but it's really important that you get out and
- 27:00express yourself in these judicial elections. Maybe twelve years on the Supreme Court,
- 27:06now those are uncontested eight years for circuit judges. So if you don't vote
- 27:11and you go to court and so I'm not happy with that judge, Well,
- 27:15if you didn't vote, you didn't express yourself, you don't have any
- 27:18ability to complain. Samely with the legislative rations. Of course, that just
- 27:22goes to stands to reason. If you don't vote, don't complain, If
- 27:26you're not a part of the system, don't complain. You know, I
- 27:30have my views about how things should run. But there are my views and
- 27:34I and the other important thing is if you lose, you just lose.
- 27:37Everybody's entitled to a fair shot. And if you have a fair shot on
- 27:41an election, you play by the rules that prevailed during that election cycle and
- 27:45you lose. Well, American democracy says, you go on. You have
- 27:51to accept the fact you're not always right. That's the definition of liberty,
- 27:55right, the definition of freedom in the United States. Three or four three
- 27:57four five fifty eight fifty call for Harvey lines are open three oh four three
- 28:02four five fifty eight fifty eight. Three oh four three four five fifty eight
- 28:07fifty haven't heard anything from the state Supreme courts on yet on the certified question
- 28:12asked by the Fourth District Court of Appeals or in case and the opiod,
- 28:18Well take a while. You know that there's a thirty days period they're going
- 28:22to be brief foul responses filed, probably some moral argument, I mean,
- 28:26not that case. There wouldn't have to be order arguments, right, they
- 28:30doesn't have to be. No, they can take industry is the rule twenty
- 28:33and just dispose of without argument. But that's a pretty big issue. I
- 28:37would think the court will take some time, may not be decided this term.
- 28:41It's a certified question, doesn't have to be and they got it late,
- 28:44so that could be we're not going to hear from that one until they
- 28:47could actually come up with the schedule, right, And if they're going to
- 28:49and then put out a schedule, they'll put a scheduling order out, which
- 28:52is customarily what's done, and then you'll generally get an idea of what an
- 28:56opinion's going to be coming. Now. You can look at all the schedules
- 29:00online on the Supreme Court's website. One big thing that's happening locally is the
- 29:06Circuit Court of Kanawa County come April first, will be a part of the
- 29:11e filing system, one of the last counties in the area to adopt e
- 29:17filing, which is a really big boon to the public. You can't really
- 29:23see it next week. Yeah, but embedded in the litigation process. Embedded
- 29:30in the court process is the logistical procedure of getting an action filed and keeping
- 29:38up with what happens in a case, and scheduling hearings and getting scheduling orders
- 29:45posted, all of which, if you do not have electronic filing, requires
- 29:49someone to physically mail a document, someone to physically take a document to the
- 29:56courthouse, someone to physically go to the courthouse and inspect a to look at
- 30:00a docket sheet. Now that's been done away with in the majority of West
- 30:04Virginia counties, and now Kanall County is coming online. It's called e filing.
- 30:10Attorneys qualify. Individuals can access e filing as well, but you have
- 30:15to sort of qualify after someone in your office that's familiar with the manner in
- 30:19which documents are to be filed and classified. Now this is unified, and
- 30:23the e filing system is uniform statewide to all circuits. But for instance,
- 30:30it means that in my office, one of the things I've got to do
- 30:34today when I leave here is go to the courthouse and file a petition which
- 30:40needs to be filed immediately. Can't wait until next Monday, So I will
- 30:45be doing that well, a part of what you charge a client for that
- 30:51service has to be your time's parking fees whatever. For the physical act of
- 30:56going to the courthouse. After next month, it will involve preparing those documents
- 31:03at your desks, converting them to a PDF format, having an account with
- 31:08the circuit clerk where the costs can be levied, and boom efiling that and
- 31:15then the clerk issues the summons, you get it back, you can download
- 31:19it, and after that, everything that's filed is filed electronically. Answers are
- 31:25filed electronically, Motions are filed electronically. You can go online and look and
- 31:32see what has happened in a case. And that's a really really good thing
- 31:36for the public. It's going to make things more efficient. It's going to
- 31:41make litigation move more quickly. Not too quickly. I mean, you don't
- 31:45want it to be too quick because you've got to have some time to deliberate
- 31:48and think about what you're doing. But I think it's a really good thing
- 31:52and the circuit clerk in Cana Accounty should be applauded for. Even though it's
- 31:56late, it's better late than never, and it's a much bigger office so
- 32:00it's taken some time. That's criminal and civil. Oh yes, right,
- 32:02indeed, it's everything, criminals, seminole, civil, miscellaneous, name changes,
- 32:09adoptions of domestic relations, the customary civil case, criminal matters, everything.
- 32:17Now that doesn't apply to the magistrate courts yet. Now the next step
- 32:23for Kanawha County and as the fall election approaches, after we get past the
- 32:30primary, I would hope that one of the questions that would be asked of
- 32:34candidates for the Kanawha County Commission whin they come or if they come on shows
- 32:39on this station, is what are you going to do about making your public
- 32:43property records available online? I can go, I can sit at my desk
- 32:49right now, I'm helping a longtime client who is making a purchase in Wayne
- 32:53County. Now do they want to try and go find a lawyer in Wayne
- 32:59County that they don't know? And I've never had any business dealings with take
- 33:02a chance to get someone competent to take a look at certain records to see
- 33:07what the status is. Well, no, do I want to charge them
- 33:14for the It takes about an hour byron fifteen minutes to drive from Nitro to
- 33:17Wayne. Well, you've got so you got three hours tied up in just
- 33:22on turnaround time. But I can sit at my desk and look at the
- 33:29property indexes in Wayne County on my computer, and in Lincoln County and in
- 33:34Campbell County and Pocahontas and Logan and Monroe and Greenbrier and any number of other
- 33:39venues. But I cannot do that with Kanawah County, and neither can anybody
- 33:44else. And the records are all on computer. If you go to the
- 33:46record room in Kanawac County, if you're wondering about the status of a piece
- 33:51of property or a lean or a tax lien, you can go to a
- 33:54computer terminal, no charge, put in the names in the index, and
- 33:59there you see it. Now, for whatever reason, that's not available online,
- 34:04and I've talked about it for the last several years. I don't know
- 34:07why, but perhaps if the candidates for county commission or even the Sinning Commission,
- 34:12I mean Ben Slanguo likes to come on and talk about the sports center,
- 34:15and I think that's a wonderful thing. But it would be a lot
- 34:17more meaningful and save more money for people who live in this county to have
- 34:21the records online than to plan for the future of a bunch of squash courts
- 34:27where the Macy's building used to be. That's just my thought about there he
- 34:30goes. And maybe you can ask Ben the next time he's on or Dave
- 34:34can over here, or the candidates for County Commission, why they can't put
- 34:37the property records online so that all the citizens have access to them, not
- 34:42just to select group of people who may be lawyers or title searchers or whoever.
- 34:45Because you're already converted. Yeah, they're converted. Sure, And then
- 34:50they have some really interesting records in Kanawa County. They go back a long
- 34:52way. Well, they go back to the seventeen eighties deeds up Georgia,
- 35:00Washington, deeds that have Daniel Boone's name on them. You know, a
- 35:05large part of for instance, like Sleepy holl Golf Club in Hurricane. If
- 35:08you go back to look for the deed, the initial conveyance to the family
- 35:15from which that land evolved, it's a deed in Kanawha County because all the
- 35:21parts of Putnam County up to the what's now the Tays Valley District, the
- 35:24Scott and Curry districts were part of Kanawha County the rest that was part of
- 35:30Mason County. And you know, so you've got to splitch. I mean,
- 35:36before about eighteen forty, you've got to split your look between the two.
- 35:39It's pretty fascinating. I always sort of liked property work. I never
- 35:43did want to do it on a scale that real title lawyers do. From
- 35:51Bob Hall from up chess Peake, he's one of the better ones around,
- 35:54and you know, but it was always sort of like putting together a little
- 35:59pun and you see some really interesting things who owned what, and how property
- 36:02to evolve from one person to another, and a lot of history of the
- 36:07area. In fact, it's tied up in that. Now Easter is coming
- 36:12up. Let's not forget about that Friday. We're closed on Friday. It's
- 36:16a good Friday, It's really it's quite a significant day in the Christianity.
- 36:22It's quite a significant day in the world indeed. And then Sunday, of
- 36:25course, is the most important holiday, the most to celebrate, the most
- 36:30important event, most significant event to sort of the Christian religion and I think
- 36:37most other mainline worldwide religions all devolve around some some hope of eternal salvation whenever
- 36:52however, it manifests itself, so it's really important. And I just hope
- 36:55it's early Easter. This was the earliest vernal equinox in one hundred and twenty
- 37:01eight years, and easters after the vernal equinox the rebirth time spring starts.
- 37:09So let's not forget that. We won't forget it. We won't be working
- 37:14on Friday. We'll be closed and we'll have a message on our machine telling
- 37:16you that. But we'll be open on April the first, which won't be
- 37:19April Fool's Day if you call the Peyton Law Firm, because we won't fool
- 37:22you. Yeah, we'll be honest. First Avenue in Nitroy eight o one,
- 37:27First Avenue in Nitro. It's gorgeous this time of year. The trees
- 37:30are blooming across the street by the railroad tracks. And Nitro is an old
- 37:32community, so a lot of the older houses have these nice stool of trees
- 37:36in the yard and bazalea bushes that have been there forty and fifty and sixty
- 37:40years and they bloom out. It's just a really nice time to be a
- 37:45Nitro and there's always a good time to call the Faint Law Firm. Indeed
- 37:47it is seven five five fifty five fifty six or pet Law Firm dot com.
- 37:52We we're our time. Oh gosh, I'm sorry. Well, I'll
- 37:54see it. Either I will see you or if I will see you,
- 37:58We're talking to you folks next week. If you have any questions, do
- 38:01not fear to call our office here four seven five five fifty five fifty six,
- 38:07or go online to Peyton Lawfirm dot com board stop buy and see us.
- 38:10That's even lyser we'd like to see hers. Mary Harvey. Good seeing
- 38:14you. Happy Easter, all right, stay tuned. ABC News is next
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- 38:31too. From ABC News. I'm Sherry Preston in Baltimore. Today, CRUZ
- 38:40will begin removing the wreckage from the collapse of the Key Bridge. Investigators still
- 38:45don't know what caused that container ship to slam into the bridge after losing power,
- 38:50but ABC's Gio Benitez in Baltimore says they are hoping to find out more
- 38:53information in the coming week. The NTSB gaining access to preliminary data from the
- 38:58voyage Data Record, the agency hearing audio which hasn't been released yet from the ship's bridge