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Light Therapy for Cats with AnimaSol · Back In The Closet - Two Crazy Cat Ladies

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  OK, so now let's get to the podcast.
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  With wine. Always with wine.
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  I'm Jay. I'm Adrian.
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  And together we are. There's two crazy cat ladies.
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  I'm gonna. Cut you, I think I just peed.
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  Buckle up. We're back in the closet.
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  Welcome to another episode of a Back in the Closet with the 2
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  Crazy Cat ladies. Guys, we are so excited we are
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  ending this the month of April with a good. 1.
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  With a really good one, we promised you guys that this
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  month was going to be full of new stuff that you'd never heard
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  of before. And we are super, super excited
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  that we are finishing up April with nothing but light therapy
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  for our kitties And and we brought on two of the experts,
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  like the actual top experts in the field of light therapy for
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  pets. And so we're super excited and
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  grateful for Jackie and Julie to be joining us today from Animal
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  Soul Animal, What do? You say it for.
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  Animal Soul. You guys perfectly animal soul
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  like perfect. Animal Soul.
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  Animal Soul. Animal soul.
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  We we're also like an animal soul, soul, animal soul.
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  Yeah, we kept, we kept leaving the L there.
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  Yeah. Animal soul.
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  We're like, no. That's what it means, you know,
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  animal and then soul, like is the Spanish word for life, but
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  also like soul because we're healing the souls of our pet
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  parents and of our animals. So yeah, it has something.
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  Love it. OK so you've got 1 so many
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  comments already. I'm so excited to see everyone
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  here. For those that are listening,
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  can you guys share just a quick intro who you are?
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  Introduce yourself to our community.
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  Let let everyone know who you are and how you are lighting up
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  our lives. Let's start with you, Jackie,
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  please. Yeah, thanks, ladies.
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  Thanks again for having us here. Super excited to share some
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  light with our feline pet parents.
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  So for the last close to 20 years I've been a equine and
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  canine body worker. I guess actually I have worked
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  on a few cats, some goats, some Peacocks, some like random
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  animals for sure. Used to be the kid that loved
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  animals, wanted to be a vet. Life kind of took me the way it
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  did to become a body worker, which is just AKA physical
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  therapist for an animal, right? So massage, Reiki, myofascia
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  work, cranial sacral and mainly working with a lot of
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  competitive animals. So keeping them performing at
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  their top performance, but also helping them rehab if there was
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  any type of injury, surgery or illness or disease because of
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  that career, it really taught me a lot about the body being fully
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  connected, working together. If there was one injury
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  somewhere or an illness somewhere else in the body is
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  going to compensate and a lack of energy is going to be pulled
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  from that area. And you really need to support
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  the body as a whole holistically, right?
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  Because that's how it works. So I knew a little bit about
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  light in that career from lasers because that's what's been
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  around since the 70s. And we'll probably dive into
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  that part here in a minute, but I didn't know the full light
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  story like I do now until I had to go through my own tragic
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  health journey of getting Lyme disease 7 years ago.
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  And so I wanted to treat that naturally as well.
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  And I did. I healed Lyme disease using
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  herbal tinctures and kind of changing some like diet
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  protocols. But I was leftover with a ton of
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  symptoms that I couldn't recover from.
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  And now that I know what I know, my mitochondria was just zapped
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  and I couldn't recover and get that energy efficiency for
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  immune function, hormone function, brain function.
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  So an Angel friend of mine turned me on to the topic of
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  quantum biology and we'll tap on that today.
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  As far as light goes, if we opened up the full can of worms
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  of quantum biology, we'd be here for 8 hours and I'm more than
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  happy to come back and discuss more later.
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  I I I tap into quantum biology so.
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  That's another, yeah, that's another episode.
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  Let's do that. Yeah, yes, quantum biology
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  taught me that light, light, water, magnetism are truly the
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  three pillars of our health, and light is there as that
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  foundation. So when we talk about health in
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  general, most people really focus on diet, exercise and
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  sleep. And those things are important,
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  I'm not knocking them. But the big fat elephant in the
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  room is light. And so I became the Guinea pig
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  myself when I learned the information of, like, it's just
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  some habit changes that are free and it's light.
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  And I've already spent all this money on, you know, supplements
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  and protocols and doctor's visits.
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  And so I just started changing some light life habits in my
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  life, and everything turned around and optimized.
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  I'm now 42, and my brain works like a Ferrari.
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  My body works like a Ferrari. I can pick up information, spit
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  it out quickly, better than I did in my 20s, right?
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  And it all had to do with having a healthy light foundation in my
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  life. So I started just digging down
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  all the research. I got certified in quantum
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  biology because I have to know all the things and how it works.
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  And then started teaching it to like, humans at, you know, yoga
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  studios, retreats, my clients. But I looked at the animal
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  industry that I loved so much, and I noticed, oh, they're
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  getting sicker and sicker at younger and younger ages, just
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  like their human counterparts. And the health statistics are
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  not good. And I was like, it's a light
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  problem. So of course the solution would
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  also be a light solution. And literally I was like sitting
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  on the beach one day not really thinking about work.
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  And I don't know what your guys's belief systems are, but
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  God, the universe, higher self, whatever you want to believe.
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  Like downloaded this invention of a full body red in the
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  infrared light therapy device for animals because I've used
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  red light therapy also in my protocols to help boost the
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  mitochondria. And here we are several years
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  later as a company now providing, you know, full
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  wearables for animals. And the healing we see are
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  incredible. So I know we'll dive into that,
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  but that's just a little bit of like who I am, how we've gotten
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  to where we are. And obviously I've gotten really
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  great connections and people that have come on board wanting
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  to join the light team. And so my associate and team
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  member, Julie is also with us and I'll pass it over to her to
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  give some of her background. Love it.
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  Julie. Hard act to follow.
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  Anyway, I grew up with animals all around me.
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  My mom owned a grooming shop that was in conjunction with the
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  veterinary, so I was in the vet clinic all the time and the
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  local dog catcher would always bring us all the stray ducks and
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  the babies and whatever. So we had animals everywhere.
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  And I was healing. I healed my baby duck who's
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  supposed to be euthanized from his leg by just laying there,
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  soaking his leg in Epsom salt, giving him his medicine and
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  cherry tomatoes. And my father would look at me
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  like, you know, how to handle animals.
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  Why don't you become a vet? But I just couldn't deal with
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  the gory part of it. So Fast forward, I always wanted
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  to be, you know, with the animals I got in the fashion
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  industry because that was my dad's side of, of the world.
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  I spent like 20-30 years in the fashion industry working for top
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  designers and like huge businesses.
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  And then I started getting my own pets and one by one we had
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  problems and we started going down the Bunny trail.
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  And then I moved part time to Orlando and I won an animal
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  communication class with Joan Ranquet.
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  And when I went there, I, I was always into that was very into
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  the psychic and all that. And I, they brought in an energy
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  worker, hands on healer and we're in the back of his pickup
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  truck with our animals. We all brought him and he's like
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  this, he goes, your dog has kidney failure.
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  I'm like, no, she doesn't. Yes, she does.
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  And I took her to the vet. No, she doesn't.
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  Two months later she had kidney failure.
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  He felt he he felt it. He sensed it.
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  So I started down this whole Bunny trail and that, you know,
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  I got certified and became a Reiki master.
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  Then I learned animal massage, then I learned acupressure and
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  tall grass. And then it just kept
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  snowballing and snowballing. I'm now a certified.
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  Well, I'm an animal communicator.
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  I specialize actually, with animals on the other side now.
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  I don't do so much with live animals and a lot of people in
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  our group who are probably watching, I've read their
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  animals. And then I got certified as an
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  animal aromatherapist. I work with Janet Rourke, I'm a
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  consultant for her and I do a lot of things.
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  Actually. I'm going to have a podcast all
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  the month of June with her and then I I'd learned acupressure
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  and I stumbled when my next animal had Cushings.
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  I ended up stumbling into light therapy.
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  That was about 10 years ago and the results were amazing.
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  I used my pad on her. You know she had well, I got got
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  the pad didn't know what to do with it.
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  Couple days later she had a mammary lumps.
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  Take her to my vet. You may know her, Erin Holder
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  Aaron looked at it, said I don't think it's anything.
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  We'll aspirate it, take her home, Let's just sit and wait
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  'cause it came too fast. I go home, I watch this thing go
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  from a grape to 1/2 a Kiwi like in 2-3 days.
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  I'm freaking out. I call the the people of the
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  light company I bought. I said what do I do?
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  I mean, I've got this thing. I just spent all this money,
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  what do I do? And they told me what to do,
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  start doing it twice a day, followed with a concoction I
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  made with animal with aromatherapy.
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  I watched that thing in less than 5 days go from this to this
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  to this and gone. And then I go three days later
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  back to Erin. And we're sitting there, she's
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  like blown away. And we're like, what's wrong
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  with this dog? And we're watching her and
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  looking at her and she's white and silver again versus
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  constantly was like rusty and full of yeast and orange.
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  And we looked at her as like, it's the light.
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  Like, the light made all the yeast go away, and she was back
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  to being white and silver. So I was just hooked.
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  Then I'm like, buying more and more devices.
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  And it wasn't just her with yeast.
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  I did Amanda Wilburn's dog, you know, you know, Grizzly.
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  I said to her, would you please try this?
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  And she's just like, oh, my God. Ten days later, Grizzly was
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  like, less yeasty. And I did it with a few other
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  dogs. So I just got, you know, more
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  and more snow bolts. And then I only get science
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  projects for pets. They just seem to find me.
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  So I just keep learning and keep, you know, going down that
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  Bunny trail. But light's been a godsend
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  mixing it with aromatherapy and hands on energy work.
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  You know, I do tapping IT, touch.
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  I'm trying to think what else I do.
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  So much stuff. So.
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  And yeah. And the acupressure is great
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  because I learned acupressure points and all that.
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  And now we use the torch to do acupressure protocols.
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  So it's all kind of intertwined. But my dogs took me down this
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  Bunny trail. This is so awesome.
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  OK, so. I have to tell, I have to tell
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  our community real quick. This is our first time meeting
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  you guys. We are so we've been fangirls
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  for a while. We've we've got like some
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  podcasts if you've done with other people and and it's like,
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  what, what is this? This is so cool.
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  When and we when we had elderly our Zorro or Zorro Oliver Twist,
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  our Oliver Twist, we got like a. Somebody had suggested light
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  therapy and we got a, a red light therapy mat for him and it
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  was and, and, and I don't, I don't actually know because he
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  didn't want it, right. So he was like the we would, we
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  would put it near him. And I can't wait to learn from
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  you guys tonight because have anybody to teach us anything?
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  We were just like, OK, red light therapy, we've got this.
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  And then what do you do with it? You lay it on him and he's like,
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  get it off of me. And I'm like, let me lay it
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  beside you. Would you lay on it?
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  He did once. He laid on it once and I was
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  like, oh, I think this is really good.
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  I don't know what it's doing. I don't know.
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  I don't know. Like, I don't know.
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  Let's. Start there, let's start there
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  for for ourselves and for anyone in the community that may not.
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  Although I see a comment here from Julia saying funny this
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  popped up. I'm using my torch on my girl
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  with DM. We're seeing great improvement.
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  Julia already knows way more than than we do.
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  Yes for people that joining in have no idea what we're talking
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  about. What is like therapy?
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  What like if you could let me just if someone just asked you
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  that, what is it? What is light therapy?
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  Yeah. It's so it's there's a
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  scientific term called photobiomodulation, say that
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  four times fast. That is the scientific term.
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  If you wanted to say like to a veterinarian or if you want to
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  talk in that very scientific clinical terms, it's
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  photobiomodulation. And all that means is photo
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  you're taking light bio you're affecting the biology or
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  Physiology of something living and then modulation.
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  So something changes. And actually if you go back all
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  the way to light, like Einstein, the Super smart guy that did all
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  kinds of things, he had the, he won the Nobel Prize back in like
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  the 30s for the photoelectric effect, which just proved that
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  shining light on anything with masks.
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  So even like a table or a pillar, but definitely living
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  things, there's always a chemical reaction.
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  So we've kind of known about this actually for a long time.
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  There's tons of science behind it.
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  Probably the reason why it hasn't shown and it's great
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  therapeutic abilities is not sure what hill you guys stand
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  on, but big pharma can't really like take this on.
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  So you can't patent the sun, you can't patent light wavelengths.
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  And so that already blocks them from really like owning the
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  therapy per SE. And then also we kind of already
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  know they don't like to do things that cure things.
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  So a lot of money and curing. So we'll just say all of that as
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  a caveat of kind of like, why is this, This is so new and Light's
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  always been around and us as a company, we kind of have a
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  bigger message about Light than just using it as a therapy
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  device. It it'll do that all day long.
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  And, and we can definitely talk about that and how it's working.
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  But how I like people to really be able to resonate with it is
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  if you were to Google or Ashtag GBT or just think about it, the
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  fastest, strongest natural energy source that we have in
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  the existence of the universe is the sun, right?
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  So like if the sun wasn't here, none of us would be here.
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  And so we can actually capture wavelengths, which is like what
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  the lights coming down as in photons, it's measured in
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  nanometers. I don't know how sciency you
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  guys want to get, but those photons come down in whatever
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  color, right? We have the full spectrum, which
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  is the rainbow that we learned in, you know, middle school,
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  green and blue and red and orange.
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  And those colors come down to our eyes and our body or a leaf
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  or a tree or plant and give direction to the body.
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  And I like to tell this bigger story of quantum biology because
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  honestly, a lot of people don't understand why light works so
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  well, so fast, so strong, and with no side effects because
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  that's what we would have gotten out in nature.
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  Nature makes no mistakes. And she's the original healer.
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  And we are very, very disconnected from those
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  wavelengths with our modern indoor lifestyle.
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  So I kind of like to put that out there to really like have a
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  gut punch of knowing that like as a modern life, we've taken
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  light kind of for advantage. We've always had light bulbs,
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  we've always had flashlights. We have text screens now.
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  And we're not actually getting the proper healing light that we
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  should. Now if you guys want to kind of
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  get down a little bit of the sciency stuff of like what the
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  light is doing in the body, we can definitely break that down.
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  But I like to kind of bring that nature big perspective first.
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  OK, so first of all, I have that explanation especially.
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  I love just the common sense of it, right?
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  I, I feel like, and we live in Vegas and we, we do, we spend so
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  much time outside. We will work outside.
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  I mean, we're blessed to be able to work from home, but we'll
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  take our computers out and we've got to do like just to be
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  outside in the light. Because you're exactly right.
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  There's something about living another fluorescence that does
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  something. Yeah, those things are horrible
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  for your health. You don't necessarily think
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  about it as like, we know, we know that our plants die if they
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  don't get enough sunlight. We know that.
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  But we don't necessarily think about what if we don't get
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  enough sunlight and the world is covered in sunscreen.
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  So I feel like, yeah, let's get into the science stuff.
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  Wow, let's get into science. What does science say about
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  this? So I love that you actually
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  bring up the idea of plants, because I use another kind of
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  analogy to like for a gut punch. So if you did want to grow a
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  plant, even if you were going to grow it outside and you put it
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  in the ground, what does it need?
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  It needs sunlight and it needs water, right?
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  And then plants have their own cellular metabolism called
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  photosynthesis. We learned about it in school,
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  right? So it uses the sun to charge the
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  water that it gets from either rain or groundwater.
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  It creates its own glucose using chloroplast, and then it kicks
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  out oxygen, right? And then us living mammals,
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  because humans are mammals, even though modern humans have
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  forgotten it, we breathe in that oxygen and then we actually have
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  our own same photosynthesis. We just, we don't call it that.
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  The scientists have called it cellular metabolism or cellular
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  respiration as well. We use mitochondria in our
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  cells, but it's the same thing. We are just walking, talking
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  complicated plants. We're supposed to get charged
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  from the sun with the water that's in our body, our cellular
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  water, which they didn't teach us in school.
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  You learn about in quantum biology.
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  And then we make our own glucose and energy, ATP, and then we
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  kick out carbon dioxide, right? And then the plants breathe
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  that. So it's this beautiful, like
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  synchronistic pattern to keep us all living, thriving, growing,
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  reproducing. But now we've come inside.
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  And not just sunscreen, right? But like, what are walls?
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  What are windows? What are clothing?
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  What is sunglasses? What are contacts?
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  What are clothes? What is fly spray for the dogs
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  or the horses or the cats? What is shampoo even to an
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  extent or Cologne like all those things are guards that really
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  allow the sunlight not to come in.
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  Our modern windows don't allow red and near infrared to come
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  in. So kind of getting back to how
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  it happens in the cells, all the spectrum, those colors from the
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  sun have directions for your body.
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  The most healing and the deepest absorbing are in the red and
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  near infrared spectrum. You get those for free at
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  sunrise and sunset, only red and near infrared, but they're also
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  there all throughout the rest of the day when you have your UVA
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  and UVB, which has been demonized.
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  It's a lie. We won't open that can of worms
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  unless you want to. And so the red and the infrared
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  is coming down to the body into the cellular level and talking
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  to the mitochondria. So number one, for any
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  germophobes that are on the podcast, hopefully not.
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  Mitochondria are bacteria and there is one of them in every
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  single cell in your body. So you have trillions of
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  bacteria running your body, and those bacteria need to be your
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  best friends. You need to make them happy and
• 18:53
  thriving and strong. And the best way to do that is
• 18:56
  with a healthy natural light life first.
• 18:59
  But then even with our food and our supplements, there's a light
• 19:01
  story in those as well. But the lights coming in,
• 19:04
  talking to the mitochondria, they have a system called the
• 19:06
  electron chain transport. We won't get into like the heavy
• 19:09
  science stuff. That's where it runs smoother.
• 19:11
  Well, we want that running like a Ferrari, not a Prius.
• 19:14
  No offense if anybody owns Priuses in the podcast.
• 19:18
  And so light is the fastest way to do that and how the
• 19:21
  mitochondria responds to light the fastest with no risk of harm
• 19:25
  or overdosage. So light can create that 300%
• 19:28
  increase in energy for the body. Who doesn't want that nowadays,
• 19:32
  right? So that's kind of how the
• 19:34
  system's working on that cellular level.
• 19:36
  And then that just means if it's working with any cell, that
• 19:39
  means any cell in the body, a skin cell, a brain cell, an egg
• 19:42
  cell, a heart cell, a lung cell, it's going to activate healing
• 19:46
  in the natural sense for the body.
• 19:48
  Wow. And you know what, it's, it's
• 19:50
  very interesting because you say that about, about, you know, our
• 19:53
  exposure, all mammals, right, But but our exposure to, to the
• 19:58
  sun and how important it is. And you think about cats
• 20:00
  specifically, right? Like horses live outside.
• 20:03
  The the dogs get to go outside, they get to, they go for walks,
• 20:07
  they go outside to go potty. They, you know, they, they do
• 20:10
  their things. But so many cats are indoor
• 20:12
  only. Cats so it it would it would in
• 20:16
  my or my my thinking brain, at least it would make it, it would
• 20:20
  even make more sense that cats should be the best candidates
• 20:25
  for for for light therapy. Is am I wrong or am I?
• 20:29
  Am I? Absolutely right.
• 20:31
  You're spot on. I mean, all modern animals,
• 20:34
  including the Hughes and so statistics are showing right
• 20:36
  now, now, not us. I can tell we all have good
• 20:38
  color. Julie's in Florida.
• 20:39
  I get outside all the time. You guys get outside all the
• 20:41
  time. Not everybody's that fortunate,
• 20:43
  right? And so they actually show that
• 20:44
  we're spending 97% of our time indoors.
• 20:47
  So even if you think of the dog owner, if you have both pet
• 20:50
  parents that work, they're getting out.
• 20:51
  Maybe the dog gets out for 1020 minutes to use the bathroom,
• 20:54
  maybe a walk coming right back in.
• 20:56
  They're inside all day, not grounded to the earth, not with
• 20:58
  the natural spectrum. There's probably 5G and Wi-Fi
• 21:01
  on, which is a whole other part of quantum biology.
• 21:04
  Horses you think are outside. I've worked in the professional
• 21:06
  horse industry for almost 20 years.
• 21:08
  They are sitting in a stall 20 to 22 hours a day with either
• 21:11
  dim light or too bright of light light at night.
• 21:14
  Now, when you look at the health statistics, right, cats and dogs
• 21:17
  are 50 and 60% obese with metabolic issues.
• 21:20
  Horses are like 40. Cancer is 1 and 2 in cats, one
• 21:24
  and three in dogs. It is rare in horses.
• 21:27
  And I like to bring up that example because if you were to
• 21:29
  compare dogs and cats to your horse, what would really make
• 21:33
  the difference? Some people would be like, oh,
• 21:35
  well, they're omnivores. They're eating, you know, some
• 21:37
  weeds and forage. But on the performance set of
• 21:39
  horses, they're eating processed crap just like the dogs and cats
• 21:42
  are Their waters, tap water. I think the main difference that
• 21:46
  we can see why there's not so many issues of cancer in horses
• 21:49
  is they do have a better circadian rhythm of light and
• 21:52
  dark cycles grounded to the earth then our indoor pets.
• 21:56
  But to your point, most cats are indoors 24/7 unless they are a
• 22:01
  barn cat. And look at all the health
• 22:03
  issues they have, like massive UTI stuff, renal urinary issues,
• 22:08
  leukemia, which is crazy. Like if we looked at wild
• 22:12
  horses, wild dogs, Wildcats, like none of them have any of
• 22:16
  the chronic health issues that we're dealing with as humans or
• 22:19
  are indoor pets. So you're spot on.
• 22:22
  Yeah, well. Let me ask the the the question,
• 22:25
  because I think this is the one thing when when we talk about
• 22:27
  light therapies, What about the fur?
• 22:30
  How you know, like cats, most cats are just covered in fur.
• 22:33
  They are beautiful little mammals.
• 22:34
  I have Annie on my lap. I know you guys can't see her
• 22:37
  right now, but I'll question. Over to Julie.
• 22:40
  She knows our information on our products and she's been around
• 22:42
  for a lot and I know I've talked a lot, but we do get the
• 22:45
  question a lot with horses, dogs, cats.
• 22:47
  There's a coat of fur, so you have to get through that.
• 22:50
  You can, you can take it go OK. So I like to always state first
• 22:57
  of all that red and the infrared like therapy has over 7000
• 23:01
  articles and counting behind it of studies.
• 23:03
  So it is one of the most studied modalities out there besides the
• 23:06
  Einstein photoelectric effect. In the 30's, the NASA that like
• 23:10
  went to space, they were studying red and infrared like
• 23:13
  they're be in the 70s, they were growing plants in space using
• 23:16
  red and infrared. So for the people that are like
• 23:18
  that's a flashlight, how's it going to do anything?
• 23:20
  And what is light? There's plenty of proof.
• 23:22
  Go search it. Like there's tons of science.
• 23:24
  You can check our case studies. We're healing tons of things.
• 23:26
  But yes, there's a coat of fur. So all living things, even the
• 23:30
  plants and trees that are outside and us as humans and
• 23:33
  pets, we all absorb and we all reflect light.
• 23:37
  And it's supposed to be that way because we're supposed to be
• 23:38
  living charged off of light. Animals have that coat of fur as
• 23:43
  an extra protection of when they were living outside 24/7.
• 23:46
  When that bright strong UVA and UVB comes to the middle of the
• 23:50
  day. Especially think of like a tiger
• 23:52
  near the equator on a safari in Africa, right?
• 23:54
  That's really strong sun. That coat actually protects them
• 23:58
  from some of the inflammatory effects that can come from
• 24:01
  strong UV. However, if you watch animals
• 24:03
  outside, they're smart. We don't have to tell them how
• 24:06
  to be healthy like we do with humans.
• 24:07
  They just go put themselves in water or they go under shade and
• 24:11
  take that break from the light. So if we go back to the studies
• 24:16
  that have been done on red light therapy, there's kind of three
• 24:18
  parameters that actually showed when it was a therapeutic dosage
• 24:22
  that created healing. One of that was the wavelengths
• 24:25
  that were used, because there's specific penetration rates for
• 24:28
  specific wavelengths #2 was contact method.
• 24:32
  So whether it was a human, a rabbit, a dog, a horse or a cat
• 24:35
  case, they had a contact method up against the skin because that
• 24:39
  way you're not going to lose any reflection.
• 24:42
  You know, we see a lot of people now using like the red light
• 24:44
  therapy panels and lasers at a distance away from the body and
• 24:48
  some of them are still doing something at the superficial,
• 24:50
  superficial let layer. But to get those deep
• 24:54
  penetration down to the joints, down to the vertebrae, down to
• 24:56
  the nerve and bone marrow, it needs to be contact method.
• 24:59
  It needs to be probably put with the right wavelengths.
• 25:02
  It needs to have red and near infrared.
• 25:05
  Near infrared is what penetrates up to 50mm into the tissue,
• 25:08
  which is bone marrow depth if you have it designed correctly.
• 25:12
  And then the power, that was the third parameter.
• 25:15
  So it doesn't always mean that we have to have the strongest,
• 25:17
  most expensive device like some of these panels or what lasers
• 25:21
  have been and can because they can cause harm and there's
• 25:23
  contraindications. Actually most of the therapeutic
• 25:27
  dosages on the studies was low level light, so anything from 8
• 25:33
  to 30 joules per centimeter squared.
• 25:35
  That is how light is measured in dosages and treatments.
• 25:40
  And it was actually low level, not like this, like blasting
• 25:42
  high level of jewels. And I like to use Doctor Ron
• 25:45
  Regals analogy with this. He's on staff with us.
• 25:48
  He's the leading photobiomodulation veterinarian
• 25:50
  in the world. And if we had him on right now,
• 25:53
  none of us would also have a space to talk either, because
• 25:55
  he's a talker with the rest of us.
• 25:57
  But I like his analogy when we compare lasers to LEDs.
• 26:00
  So our products are all done with LEDs, which means there's,
• 26:02
  you know, no high power, there's no type of damage that can be
• 26:06
  done or burning or anything like that.
• 26:07
  If you had a garden and you needed to water it, what would
• 26:10
  be better, a nice slow, concentrated sprinkler that's
• 26:14
  kind of just constantly covering a broad exposure and soaking the
• 26:17
  water down evenly or a pressure washer.
• 26:20
  So that's like the difference there between and doesn't mean
• 26:23
  it, It doesn't mean the lasers don't work.
• 26:25
  They do. They're just very strong and
• 26:27
  they've been limited in their accessibility, right?
• 26:30
  Because they're expensive. They only do an isolated area.
• 26:32
  You've got to get to your professional or your
• 26:33
  professionals got to get to you. So it's just become cumbersome
• 26:36
  and it hasn't allowed light therapy to shine, pun intended.
• 26:39
  So now with the invention of LEDs, we can create something
• 26:42
  that pet owners can now have at home.
• 26:45
  You're getting all of the same benefits you're getting from a
• 26:47
  laser, especially if it's built correctly, but it's safe and you
• 26:51
  could leave it on the animal all day long and it's never going to
• 26:53
  cause any type of harm. One of.
• 26:56
  The. One of the key things is with
• 26:58
  red light you can't do harm. As Jackie said, your body only
• 27:01
  takes in as much as as it needs. So when it's done, you could be
• 27:06
  lighting for three hours, but if it only needs an hour, it's only
• 27:09
  taking in an hour. With lasers, you have to be
• 27:12
  worried about burning and, you know, doing damage and we've
• 27:16
  seen a lot of damage. You have to you and the patient
• 27:19
  have to wear goggles with red light.
• 27:21
  You can hold this right into your eye and it will do nothing.
• 27:24
  Has helped with eyes with macular degeneration and
• 27:28
  cataracts and other eye issues. You can use key.
• 27:33
  You can use this with cancer. It helps to heal sometimes, not
• 27:39
  always every, you know, everybody's an individual.
• 27:41
  It's case by case, but it has shrunk tumors.
• 27:44
  It has in doctor Ron has several studies where it's kept tumors
• 27:48
  steady and haven't grown anymore.
• 27:50
  Some of them have shrunk. I know personally know somebody
• 27:53
  who like avoided surgery because they were able to shrink their
• 27:57
  tumors enough. But it also supports the body,
• 27:59
  gives you immune support. It gives you helps you rebuild.
• 28:04
  It does phagotosis, which is like draining the toxins out of
• 28:07
  the the cells and all the the junk that's in the cells pushing
• 28:11
  in, you know, with cellular regeneration, big word, pushing
• 28:15
  in all the new cells. So it supports the body if
• 28:19
  you're going through chemo, radiation or just cancer in
• 28:21
  general. So for me, I would never use a
• 28:24
  laser on an animal now that I know that if you use a laser, it
• 28:28
  will exasperate cancer. Well, how do you know if I have
• 28:30
  cancer in me? You know, how do I know?
• 28:32
  Like my little girl doesn't have something dormant that hasn't,
• 28:36
  you know, reared its ugly head yet.
• 28:38
  We all have cancer cells. You never know when it's going
• 28:40
  to explode into something. So that one laser to help, you
• 28:44
  know, whatever injury could blow it up and then now we have a
• 28:47
  whole another situation. Can't do that with red light.
• 28:49
  It may shrink it, or it may help it, but it's not going to make
• 28:52
  it grow. Wow, I love that.
• 28:55
  That's the I mean, that's so. Many questions.
• 28:56
  Yeah, that I mean, but that's holistic here.
• 29:01
  Like that's, that's what we really love the most, right?
• 29:04
  Is that the? Is that not having to like being
• 29:06
  able to do the least harm? Right.
• 29:10
  So so being able to still make a difference.
• 29:12
  And yes, and and. Yeah.
• 29:14
  And that and that's and that's my next question.
• 29:16
  Well. That was going to be my or.
• 29:17
  I don't know what you're. One thing, red light, you can't
• 29:21
  do anything wrong. It can't hurt anything.
• 29:23
  It can either keep it stable or make it better.
• 29:25
  Except for one thing. I know somebody who had a
• 29:28
  trigger finger, had it sliced, did the red light to try to heal
• 29:31
  it and it healed the left tendon back together thinking that it
• 29:35
  was damaged, that it go back and get another surgery.
• 29:38
  So it's the point that like, it heals too good.
• 29:41
  So like, it's kind of a catch. So that's the only issue that
• 29:44
  you have to be careful. Like if you purposely are
• 29:47
  severing something, you don't want to use robot.
• 29:52
  I feel like no listeners. I don't think we have to.
• 29:54
  Worry about the viewers will be severing anything on purpose,
• 29:58
  but that's. Right.
• 29:59
  And we see some questions, like specific questions in the
• 30:02
  comments here. But yeah, but that was my
• 30:04
  question is, is light therapy just just actively supporting
• 30:08
  the body or is it actively treating certain things?
• 30:10
  Yeah, and if so, what? When it comes to our felines,
• 30:13
  when it comes to our kitties specifically, what have you guys
• 30:16
  seen? What do you know from your
• 30:19
  research for your? Science.
• 30:20
  What are some of these things that that that light therapy
• 30:24
  specifically can help? So it answers both of those
• 30:28
  questions, yes, like it is supporting the body, but it's
• 30:30
  also actively treating things because again, it's going down
• 30:33
  to the cell and talking to the mitochondria.
• 30:35
  Your mitochondria are responsible for your ATP, so
• 30:38
  that's your energy. But mitochondria also creates
• 30:42
  circulation in the form of near infrared.
• 30:44
  So the red light therapy is going to enhance that as well.
• 30:47
  And then it also creates hydration at that cellular
• 30:49
  level. So kind of how I'd mentioned
• 30:51
  before that we have cellular water.
• 30:52
  We're actually made-up of 99% water, not 90.
• 30:55
  And it's because we have cellular water.
• 30:57
  So if you think of every single cell that's in our body, it has
• 30:59
  this barrier around it of easy water.
• 31:02
  It's called exclusion zone water.
• 31:05
  So we were always taught there's three stages of water, right?
• 31:07
  Solid, liquid and gas, but there's actually a fourth.
• 31:09
  And so easy water kind of has like a plasma state, kind of
• 31:12
  like jello, and that is surrounding every one of your
• 31:15
  cells. And its purpose is to protect
• 31:18
  yourself from toxins or diseases or bacteria or low energy.
• 31:24
  But if the body's not receiving light, if it's surrounded by
• 31:28
  Wi-Fi, if it's surrounded by artificial light at night, then
• 31:31
  your circadian rhythms aren't working correctly and your
• 31:34
  mitochondria are not working correctly.
• 31:35
  And so that water gets diminished.
• 31:38
  Side note, there's actually videos out there where you can
• 31:40
  watch like Wi-Fi routers next to cellular cells in a in a culture
• 31:44
  cell and it like zaps the water away.
• 31:47
  That's a whole nother topic for another podcast, but it's just
• 31:51
  to let people know that these things that we can't necessarily
• 31:53
  see, feel, touch and breathe or eat like light does have a
• 31:57
  physiological effect on us, either in a good way or in a bad
• 32:00
  way. And so we have light sensors and
• 32:03
  every single one of our cells, they're called melanopsins.
• 32:06
  They were found in the late 90s. And so we're not giving our, our
• 32:10
  cells those light signals anymore.
• 32:13
  So even if you're eating the most raw food and you're getting
• 32:16
  exercise and you're getting good sleep, you're still running on a
• 32:20
  hamster wheel if you don't get your light life right to still
• 32:23
  end up with some type of injury or illness.
• 32:25
  That's how I still ended up with Lyme disease.
• 32:26
  I played polo, I worked on horses outside, I ate paleo, I
• 32:29
  strength trained. I thought I was like so freaking
• 32:32
  healthy, which I was to probably most modern Americans.
• 32:35
  But I still got Lyme disease because my redox potential, my
• 32:38
  immune system was zapped because of what my light life and habits
• 32:43
  were. Had my cell phone in my back
• 32:44
  pocket all day long. I had lights on at night.
• 32:46
  I ate late. I never got up and saw the
• 32:48
  sunrise. Lots of different habits like
• 32:50
  that, that you can change. So kind of coming that so
• 32:53
  supports everything. It's creating that natural
• 32:55
  healing that our body has innately in it to thrive and
• 32:59
  live a long time. Like, for example, there's still
• 33:02
  human tribes out there. There's not that many, but
• 33:05
  there's still some left where these people are literally
• 33:07
  grounded to the earth with bare feet.
• 33:08
  They live, eat, breathe, build buildings, their teepees and
• 33:11
  everything outside. Their teeth are white.
• 33:13
  They never see the dentist. They don't have, you know,
• 33:15
  cavities. They don't have diabetes.
• 33:17
  They don't have, you know, heart disease or cancer.
• 33:20
  The women are still having their periods into their 80s.
• 33:22
  They're still having babies in their 60s, which not everybody
• 33:25
  would want. But it shows that you're staying
• 33:28
  vital for free by being connected to nature.
• 33:32
  And so that's what we have to get back to first.
• 33:34
  If you can fix your light life first, everything else gets way
• 33:39
  easier. The diet, exercise, and sleep.
• 33:40
  You don't have to kill yourself in the general time.
• 33:42
  You will sleep well and you'll actually regenerate at night,
• 33:44
  which is what you're supposed to do.
• 33:45
  Mitochondria also control our apoptosis and our autophagy
• 33:49
  systems, which is our cancer removal and our cell repair.
• 33:53
  Your mitochondria control those, and if you're not giving your
• 33:55
  mitochondria the right signals, it can't do those.
• 33:58
  And look at how high those cancer rates are now in dogs,
• 34:00
  cats and humans. So that kind of clears that up.
• 34:04
  Now as far as like cat specific cases, I actually took some from
• 34:08
  Doctor Ron as well because he has been in this longer than I.
• 34:11
  And we did start with horses and dogs.
• 34:13
  So we did have a lot more of those cases.
• 34:14
  But I don't want that to defer anyone on here because again, we
• 34:18
  are all mammals. So we all react the same way.
• 34:21
  We all have the mitochondria, we all have the same cells.
• 34:24
  But we have had renal cases, we have had Utis just fix
• 34:29
  themselves by getting rid of the inflammation and the pain that
• 34:32
  red light therapy gives you. So some of the great benefits of
• 34:35
  red light therapy is you do get a natural pain relieving effect
• 34:37
  that's actually performing outperforming NSAIDs.
• 34:40
  That's in an article that came out two years ago.
• 34:42
  So think about like the Butte or the ibuprofen or the aspirin or
• 34:46
  freaking gabapentin that's handed out like candy nowadays.
• 34:50
  That stuff is horrible for the kidney and the liver and the
• 34:52
  digestive system. It creates ulcers, it creates
• 34:54
  gut inflammation, leaky gut. Well, guess what's made in your
• 34:57
  gut, not just your microbiome for digestion absorption.
• 35:00
  Your immune system is made in your gut.
• 35:01
  Your sexual hormones are made in your gut, which is for vitality,
• 35:04
  not just production. And your feel good hormones are
• 35:07
  made there. So like your dopamine, your
• 35:09
  serotonin like to feel good about life and and wanting to do
• 35:12
  things. Same for her animals, like they
• 35:14
  need that too. When we think about behavior
• 35:15
  issues and animals, do they have gut problems?
• 35:18
  You know, do they have pain somewhere?
• 35:20
  That's how they talk to us is by those physical behavior issues,
• 35:23
  not just that they're being a bad Kitty or a bad horse.
• 35:26
  I think one of the bigger needle mover movers that we like to
• 35:29
  bring to the talk is red light therapy can actually help with
• 35:33
  like thyroid issues and metabolic issues, which most
• 35:35
  people think are just like these massive hormone problems.
• 35:38
  And there's so many cats that end up with Cushing's, which is
• 35:40
  just diabetes for cats. And the doctors honestly are
• 35:45
  just kind of like, OK, we just stabilize and maintain this and
• 35:48
  we put them on pills. And then they just live for as
• 35:50
  long as they can until now we have liver enzymes, increasing
• 35:53
  kidney disease because of all the medication they have to be
• 35:56
  on, right? And light controls our hormones
• 35:59
  from the gut. And so how often do people get
• 36:02
  their bellies or their cat bellies or their dog bellies out
• 36:05
  in the sun? Never once a week when we go to
• 36:08
  the beach and burn ourselves, right?
• 36:10
  Or every now and then when the cat or the dog goes out for the
• 36:12
  summer. But cats for sure don't get that
• 36:14
  chance. And we see how often they want
• 36:16
  to go, like, lay down in the window sill that's trying to
• 36:19
  provide some light on the floor that cat's like, Oh, yeah, let's
• 36:22
  talk about this light. He's going to land.
• 36:26
  So they do deal with a lot of metabolic issues.
• 36:28
  We have the same problem in cats and horses, I mean dogs and
• 36:31
  horses as well. And there's actually a study
• 36:33
  that just came out from the leading human light scientist,
• 36:37
  he's from the UK and Doctor Jeffries, they just actually
• 36:40
  proved that 10 minutes of red light therapy on a human reduce
• 36:45
  blood sugar by 30% within an hour.
• 36:48
  That is phenomenal, phenomenal. And you know, Julie already has
• 36:54
  her own case having Cushings, and that's how she even got
• 36:57
  turned on to light because the light improved it.
• 36:59
  And we can definitely talk about that, Julie, since you have your
• 37:01
  case. And we can still relate that to
• 37:03
  cats. And Doctor Ron has told me he
• 37:05
  has helped metabolic issues and cats as well.
• 37:08
  I don't know if you want to touch on that, Julie, as far as
• 37:10
  like what your case was like with the Cushings and seeing
• 37:12
  some of that inflammation improve with light.
• 37:15
  Well, it was hard to pinpoint whether it was just light or
• 37:19
  everything else that I was doing because I was lucky enough to
• 37:21
  have her as a patient of Doctor Shea.
• 37:24
  So, you know, I had his magic hands on her every week.
• 37:28
  But she definitely improved with the light.
• 37:30
  She lived longer. I was just starting to get into
• 37:34
  the light. That was the time I had the
• 37:35
  issue with the the mammary tumor that they thought was possibly
• 37:40
  cancer. So it helped her a lot.
• 37:42
  But Fast forward when I started using like more my current dog
• 37:47
  has arthritic problems and orthopedic from being abused and
• 37:51
  it's helped her tremendously. She get got just got an ear
• 37:56
  infection just happened now and I used the torch in her ear and
• 38:00
  just essential oils at the base of her ear and got rid of it.
• 38:04
  I've helped her with she has two damaged eyes from when she was
• 38:07
  abused. So I use it around her eyes and
• 38:10
  I see with me too with my eyes because my eyes aren't the best
• 38:13
  with age. So and I could definitely see
• 38:16
  improvement like with, you know, seeing and I can actually read
• 38:19
  things without my glasses, you know, blurry, but I can see them
• 38:22
  now. So the light definitely has
• 38:24
  helped that. So I've had a lot of, you know,
• 38:26
  cool experiences along the arthritic line we've had.
• 38:30
  We have great case studies with helping paralyzed dogs get up
• 38:33
  and walk again. Our one of her big case studies
• 38:36
  is Marley. She for a whole year her her mom
• 38:40
  tried a million different things, all different kinds of
• 38:44
  modalities and finally just gave up.
• 38:46
  And when she finally got to use our blanket, the dog start
• 38:50
  walking in two weeks. Wow.
• 38:52
  Yeah, had been paralyzed for a year.
• 38:54
  Yeah, he I like I fell on the floor crying and laughing at the
• 38:58
  same time. But now we've helped so many
• 39:00
  animals with IVDD, mobility issues.
• 39:02
  And we have had some cats that have been used for arthritic
• 39:05
  issues, stiffness again, urinary issues, any type of kidney
• 39:08
  inflammation. We've helped you know all of
• 39:11
  those types of cases for both cats, dogs and horses.
• 39:15
  Then then here's the question that I know because we're happy
• 39:16
  we have questions about hyperthyroidism.
• 39:19
  Yeah, insomnia for humans. Arthritis, arthritis so so when
• 39:23
  it comes to cats and this is the this is the biggest challenge.
• 39:26
  Urinary issue you. Can have the most incredible
• 39:30
  supplement new you know acupuncture humor factor food
• 39:34
  whatever it is if your cat doesn't want it then it does
• 39:36
  them no good. How?
• 39:38
  How practically? How do you?
• 39:41
  Administer. For something like hyper.
• 39:44
  Therapy. Or arthritis.
• 39:47
  Yeah. So we have lots of different
• 39:48
  options and it's just really going to come down to the the
• 39:51
  animal and their preference. And obviously we all know that
• 39:54
  cats are pretty specific and opinionated compared to
• 39:57
  sometimes dogs are just like, do whatever you want, you know?
• 40:01
  So we have a couple of different options as far as in our product
• 40:03
  line that we have used for animals.
• 40:05
  Now I've had a client that has a really small dog coat that has
• 40:09
  the patented belly band to innervate with the gut.
• 40:11
  And they've literally had cats that are at home that are used
• 40:14
  to wearing holsters and clothes and things.
• 40:16
  And they were able to put the coat around the cat and the cat
• 40:19
  wore that just like the the coat that Julie's showing there.
• 40:22
  And they sent me pictures and the cat wore the coat.
• 40:24
  So that's our optimal item just because you do get a full body
• 40:28
  coverage and you get the belly band.
• 40:29
  Isn't it? And then when?
• 40:30
  People first started asking us about like, OK, well, what about
• 40:33
  these for cats? When we were first producing
• 40:34
  products, I was like, what cats going to wear a coat?
• 40:37
  And like, how do you measure for that, you know?
• 40:39
  And so, yeah, some cats might. If you have a cat that likes to
• 40:42
  wear clothes and they can wear a holster and you want to try the
• 40:44
  dog coat, by all means, that's like the optimal product.
• 40:47
  And you'll get the belly band and you'll get full body
• 40:49
  coverage. We.
• 40:52
  Yes. You could also use as a pad to
• 40:55
  lay on and put it on top. But somebody like Dee Mankowski
• 40:58
  got a big one of these for her dog.
• 41:00
  She's, you know, Paxton's a big boxer, I think he is.
• 41:05
  And she now puts the cat laying on here.
• 41:08
  And then because the belly band's twice the size of my
• 41:11
  extra extra small, she has the belly band on the top.
• 41:14
  So she has it as like a sandwich around the cat and loves it.
• 41:18
  Just runs when she takes it out and he runs over to it.
• 41:22
  Yeah, you. Know equine clients that have
• 41:25
  our leg wraps and bell boots and the hort and the cats in the
• 41:27
  barn just like literally steal the leg wrap and just lay, you
• 41:30
  know, on top of it. Now what we produce for cats is
• 41:34
  what I have here, which is our pad.
• 41:36
  So when I thought about cats, I'm like, okay, everybody has a
• 41:38
  cat, has a cat carrier, right? And so even if you needed to
• 41:41
  just give, these are just 15 minute therapy sessions.
• 41:44
  So if you were just trying to get the therapy to your cat,
• 41:46
  even if they wanted to be a little abstinent about it in the
• 41:49
  beginning, you could put them in their kennel, turn on the
• 41:51
  lights, right? And then they could get their
• 41:54
  treatment with them laying on it.
• 41:55
  So you get their belly or if they are comfortable with you
• 41:57
  laying it over top of them, you can also do it.
• 41:59
  The pad is such a great size that it's really great for your
• 42:02
  back and for your knees. So you can use all of our
• 42:05
  products as well because it's safe for all animals.
• 42:07
  And again, humans are animals. So we produce this mainly for
• 42:12
  cats, especially because of like the plastic over top urinary
• 42:16
  issues, Reno issues, there's going to be some leakage,
• 42:18
  there's going to be things like that.
• 42:19
  I tried to consult with cat owners as often as possible.
• 42:22
  So very easy to clean, very easy to maintain.
• 42:25
  You get a case with it, it can travel with you, it can fly with
• 42:27
  you. So that's kind of our product.
• 42:29
  And then we also have our torch that Julie was showing earlier.
• 42:32
  So that's our handheld device. It's our super just introductory
• 42:34
  product as well. As far as if you're just wanting
• 42:36
  to try light for the first time, that's something where if your
• 42:39
  cats just laying on your lap, I mean, you can just take that
• 42:41
  torch and kind of hit their joint spaces if you want.
• 42:44
  If you're dealing with a thyroid issue, you can literally put the
• 42:47
  light on their throat and right on their thyroid to treat it.
• 42:50
  We've had plenty of dog cases like that, cat cases, collapsed
• 42:53
  tracheas on dogs. We have treated and gotten them
• 42:55
  off of medication. No coughing.
• 42:58
  The torch attachment that she's showing you there is really
• 43:01
  great for like eye, nose, mouth, ear and rectum issues which
• 43:04
  lasers can't touch. That's too soft a tissue.
• 43:06
  You'll burn it so. Go on, keep going.
• 43:10
  Really, that's about it. You can also use the torch
• 43:13
  acupuncture points. So if you are with an
• 43:16
  acupuncturist, you know you still have to go to those
• 43:18
  sessions, but if they can give you a protocol to go home and
• 43:22
  then do the torch sessions on it, or if you get a blanket and
• 43:24
  pad, it's still going to activate those spots as well.
• 43:27
  But you could continue that treatment at home with those
• 43:29
  devices. So I have several vets that have
• 43:33
  this in their practice. If a dog or an animal's adverse
• 43:37
  to needles, this replaces the needles.
• 43:39
  It penetrates almost as deep and stimulates just as strongly.
• 43:43
  Joseph BU does it with the needle, so it gives it a more
• 43:47
  bang for the buck. Then they, you know, they get
• 43:50
  their client to get their own torch.
• 43:52
  So they leave the office here with the acupuncture and then
• 43:55
  when they come back in a month or down here typically, but if
• 43:58
  they can keep the longevity of the treatment by using the torch
• 44:02
  during that time frame, they don't like go all the way to the
• 44:05
  bottom. They stay kind of even keel.
• 44:07
  So when they come back, it's just a more beneficial treatment
• 44:10
  for the secondary and it gives the vets more time to go and
• 44:14
  help other clients. Yeah, that's brilliant.
• 44:17
  OK, So I just want to explain really quick for those that are
• 44:19
  going to be listening on the podcast, that pad is beautiful.
• 44:22
  It looks like it's about what, 14 by 2014?
• 44:26
  11 by 1811 by 18. And that's something that's like
• 44:30
  a blanket that your cat can land or you can lay over your cat the
• 44:33
  torch. That you just wait.
• 44:35
  You can also burrito wrap it around them too.
• 44:37
  It has Velcro and straps. Oh, that's brilliant.
• 44:40
  And the torch real quick. I want to because you say the
• 44:42
  torch, but for anyone that's listening, it's it kind of looks
• 44:45
  like a flashlight, like a inch, inch and a half flashlight that
• 44:48
  is attachment that goes over the flashlight that kind of narrows
• 44:52
  that light to a yeah into a tip. So that looks, it looks like a
• 44:56
  one of those long butane lighters that you use for your
• 44:58
  stove. OK.
• 45:01
  So 1, So one key thing to know about our devices versus others,
• 45:06
  like you said you used red light in the past, 99, maybe if not
• 45:10
  all, 100% of the devices on the market are one wavelength of
• 45:14
  red, usually 661 wavelength of infrared, 850.
• 45:20
  Almost all of our devices are 5 wavelengths.
• 45:22
  We have 630 and 660 in red. We have 8/10, 8:30 and 8:50 in
• 45:28
  infrared. So that's why it's so much more
• 45:30
  powerful. And 810 is so strong, it goes
• 45:33
  through the cranium. It has helped humans with
• 45:36
  Alzheimer's and dementia. So it probably can help, you
• 45:39
  know, our animal friends as well.
• 45:40
  And it penetrates way down into the body.
• 45:43
  So it's just driving the red. Now and go ahead.
• 45:48
  OK. And then in the torch, we have 5
• 45:51
  settings, 2 which is unusual. We have two red, 2 infrared.
• 45:56
  I've never seen a torch with infrared.
• 45:58
  One of them is at 8:10 again. And then the the third one, the
• 46:02
  fifth one is blue, which is antibacterial, antimicrobial.
• 46:07
  You can kind of see a, you know, white you can see so you can see
• 46:10
  the purple tinge to it. That's the blue.
• 46:13
  So, and it's combined with the red and the infrared, which
• 46:15
  makes it more powerful. So you have an incision or a cot
• 46:19
  or something that'll like help keep, you know, the germs out,
• 46:24
  help it heal quicker, help minimize scarring.
• 46:27
  Any kind of any kind of like it already shows that it heals MRSA
• 46:31
  blue light does. They're using it in hospitals
• 46:33
  because it's working anymore. So you know, if you have MRSA,
• 46:37
  if you have a chronic ear and if you have ringworm, roundworm
• 46:40
  fungus mange, like you'll be able to use that blue to
• 46:43
  actually fight the fungus and bacteria naturally only using
• 46:47
  light but also healing at the same time with the red and ear
• 46:50
  and red combined. And so we've already had lots of
• 46:52
  ear infections come in over the last six months that just they
• 46:55
  couldn't get anything else to help and all the medications
• 46:57
  things and then like the light just like cleared it up real
• 47:00
  quick. I've actually slipped my finger
• 47:02
  like on a knife or something and it's bleeding away.
• 47:05
  Normally I would, you know, do I need a stitch?
• 47:07
  I start with the blue and the red and I'm like 3 days later
• 47:10
  you can't even see where I slipped my finger.
• 47:13
  Wow, this is amazing guys. This is awesome.
• 47:16
  OK, I have AI know we're already.
• 47:18
  I have so many questions. I know, but we're already.
• 47:21
  We're coming back in time. There's so much to talk about,
• 47:23
  light. There's so much.
• 47:26
  OK, so I have one question that I've been thinking about for a
• 47:28
  minute since you guys talked about like putting it on them as
• 47:31
  like like a coat or or whatnot. And when it comes to cats, are
• 47:34
  there any studies or do you guys know anything about light
• 47:38
  therapy specifically helping to reduce stress?
• 47:43
  Oh, I so. There is on the human side, most
• 47:46
  of the studies that do exist, there's a lot on humans and
• 47:48
  that's just because of like funding and logistics.
• 47:51
  Like there's plenty of animal studies too.
• 47:53
  Now, one thing I'll also say about our company that I'm
• 47:56
  really proud of and it's big for me, like education is key for me
• 47:59
  and long like integrity of the product.
• 48:01
  And so again, when I learned about quantum biology, I was
• 48:04
  like, how does it work? I got to know all the things and
• 48:06
  learn it. So when I was doing research and
• 48:08
  development and even since we've launched, like I always want
• 48:11
  case studies because I don't even, I just, I not only want to
• 48:14
  show that life therapy works and wins time after time again, but
• 48:18
  that our products do what we say they're going to do.
• 48:20
  So we share case studies as much as we can.
• 48:22
  And yes, they're one offs right now because we're still working
• 48:25
  on funding and we're going to get clinical studies behind us.
• 48:28
  All of that is in the future, like we're going to be working
• 48:30
  on a metabolic case for horses in the summer.
• 48:32
  And if we show that it'll just be like the human one.
• 48:34
  It's just a needle mover in the industry.
• 48:37
  But we did, I did do a case study on 2 Pitbull mixes in New
• 48:41
  Orleans. One had aggressive tendencies
• 48:44
  and one had like anxiety and separation anxiety issues.
• 48:47
  They were both adoptions and so they didn't know a ton of their
• 48:51
  history. We do think with the aggressive
• 48:53
  dog, there was probably some abuse.
• 48:54
  So some of that sometimes you can't get rid of that you're
• 48:57
  you're maintaining it. But they did take our blankets
• 48:59
  for both of the dogs and we did a 60 day trial on the blankets
• 49:03
  and they did see improvements on both of them as far as like
• 49:07
  reactivity to doorbells or a stranger coming over or
• 49:10
  something on the TV or just seeing that they just seemed
• 49:13
  more calm and relaxed in the house in general.
• 49:16
  Now the aggressive dog didn't like fully heal because I think
• 49:20
  there was other like abusive stuff going on there.
• 49:22
  But the one that they had with just separation anxiety, they
• 49:24
  just said overall her just like behavior and mood just change.
• 49:27
  And again, those things are made in the gut.
• 49:30
  And so our patented belly band or putting the cat's belly on
• 49:33
  the pad, you're going to innervate with that stuff that's
• 49:36
  in the gut. So we definitely want more.
• 49:38
  Everybody that's used it, we call it affectionately, the red
• 49:41
  light melt. And so when the light comes into
• 49:43
  the body, you know, our products are 15 minutes, about 3 or 4
• 49:46
  minutes, the light just takes over and you see their lights
• 49:49
  start to get, you know, their eyes get drewy, like they start
• 49:52
  yawning and licking and chewing. And so what's happening is the
• 49:56
  light is tapping into the Paris and magnetic nervous system of
• 49:59
  rest and digest. So instead of staying in fight
• 50:02
  or flight, which is where all of us like anxious monkey humans
• 50:05
  stay and our animals feed off of that, we need to bring the body
• 50:09
  down into rest and digest so it can actually circulate and heal
• 50:12
  and rest and recover. And so the red light is doing
• 50:15
  that. I mean, I've heard pet parents
• 50:17
  say like my dog slept more soundly through the night than
• 50:19
  they ever have. And I know that happens on the
• 50:21
  human side all the time. So yes, there's not a ton of
• 50:25
  like clinical studies yet still proving that, but there's some
• 50:28
  on the human side. And then we certainly have case
• 50:30
  studies showing it on the animal side.
• 50:32
  See this makes. Me.
• 50:33
  Amazing. This makes me think that we need
• 50:35
  one of those like everybody needs one of those when they're
• 50:37
  taking their cat to the vet, right?
• 50:39
  Like or. Traveling.
• 50:40
  With in any way, shape or form, right like.
• 50:43
  Vet travel cars, but thunderstorms and fireworks?
• 50:49
  Amazing. I just wrap it on them and
• 50:51
  they're just like, you know, they, they just zone out.
• 50:55
  And if you use essential oils with it, then it's just like a
• 50:57
  home run. I've never had problems with
• 50:59
  storms. I mean, the very first storm
• 51:02
  when Candy was like 6 months, she panicked.
• 51:05
  I mean like total panic because she didn't know what was going
• 51:08
  on. And I threw the light on her and
• 51:11
  she just laid down, chilled out. So, but what you mentioned, I
• 51:17
  want to say, because people are already asking where do we find
• 51:18
  you? Where do we find you?
• 51:19
  Link is in the description your. Link is in the description but
• 51:22
  but but practically I know these are not cheap devices so I want
• 51:26
  you to share with our audience #1 so.
• 51:28
  How long do they last? I I really feel like, yeah,
• 51:31
  because light therapy is one of those things.
• 51:32
  Like we had learned about it a few years ago and it's like you
• 51:35
  start hopping around, the price point is all over the place.
• 51:38
  What are the things that it kind of reminds me of the CBD, you
• 51:41
  know, like CBD got really popular and there's some craps
• 51:44
  CBD out there. It does thing and it's a bad
• 51:47
  name. Like CBD doesn't do anything
• 51:49
  right? Like it's it's never going to
• 51:51
  penetrate through fur, right? So.
• 51:53
  Things that the things that our community needs to look for
• 51:57
  other than just going to your link.
• 52:00
  Just by our stuff, Yeah, I'm always here to and I will always
• 52:06
  be, you know, straightforward and honest and transparent.
• 52:09
  I, I believe in that for companies and I've always been a
• 52:11
  consumer myself and a pet consumer myself.
• 52:13
  So, you know, unfortunately in the pet market, they marketers
• 52:17
  and companies definitely lean on that emotional tie, right?
• 52:20
  Like these are our kids and we are emotionally tied to them.
• 52:22
  We will die for them. We will spend every single cent
• 52:25
  in the bank for them. And it's a, it's a beautiful
• 52:27
  thing for sure, but let's not take advantage of that.
• 52:30
  Yes, our products are investments and a good red light
• 52:33
  therapy device will be. But again, there's actually
• 52:35
  spectrum terms where like there's really, really cheap
• 52:38
  devices like from Amazon for $200.
• 52:40
  I would say our prices are really more mid range to be
• 52:43
  honest, because then you have laser companies that are, you
• 52:46
  know, $10,000 and up even for their home devices.
• 52:49
  And let me just tell you guys, even the leading light scientist
• 52:52
  from the UK who was just on Doctor Huberman's podcast, very
• 52:56
  well respected, you know, UCLA guy, he said, how come people
• 53:00
  are just using the word laser then?
• 53:01
  You know, Cuz it's just been what's been around for the 70s.
• 53:04
  And the scientists literally chuckled.
• 53:05
  And I was so glad he was honest, but he just said we just like
• 53:09
  using the word laser. Laser and red light therapy is
• 53:12
  the same therapy. We're delivering red and near
• 53:16
  red light therapy to the body. It's just how it's powered and
• 53:19
  delivered. Lasers is a big coherent
• 53:21
  straight beam of light, very high-powered thermal effect.
• 53:24
  That's why you can have danger. LEDs are just a broad, wide
• 53:29
  spectrum of light delivered down.
• 53:31
  And if it's powered correctly with the right wavelength and
• 53:34
  contact method, you can still get all of that deep penetration
• 53:38
  safely and effectively. OK, So I always want to kind of
• 53:41
  discern that there. Now as far as picking a device,
• 53:45
  I do think there's things that customers need to look for.
• 53:48
  A company should be telling you their wavelengths that they're
• 53:50
  using. That is not proprietary
• 53:52
  information. You cannot patent wavelengths.
• 53:55
  We have 5 wavelengths. They are all stated on our
• 53:57
  website. A company should be telling you
• 54:00
  about that. A company should also have red
• 54:03
  and near infrared together. So also like you said, now we're
• 54:06
  hearing it doesn't penetrate. Red light therapy doesn't work.
• 54:08
  I got some retired vet on Instagrams reels from tons of my
• 54:12
  friends the other day because she was like sorry but not sorry
• 54:14
  that red light therapy is not working.
• 54:16
  You need to use lasers because a lot of companies, especially the
• 54:19
  stuff off of Amazon, they'll only put red wavelength LEDs in
• 54:23
  their products and red will penetrate about 5 to 8mm into
• 54:27
  the tissue. So it's doing some superficial
• 54:29
  stuff, superficial wound healing, pain relief, but it's
• 54:33
  not penetrating deeper. So the product should have red
• 54:36
  and neo infrared together. Ours has, you know, 2 red, 3
• 54:40
  infrared. And then also we designed our
• 54:42
  products to have a 2 to one ratio of near infrared to red.
• 54:45
  I don't even know of a human product that's doing that.
• 54:48
  So you're getting double the near infrared chips, then you're
• 54:50
  getting red. So you're definitely getting
• 54:53
  that deeper penetration as well. And then they need to tell you
• 54:56
  about their power devices. You know, is it battery operated
• 54:58
  if it's plugged into a wall? Every single, this is a whole
• 55:01
  nother part of quantum biology to talk about.
• 55:03
  But every single thing that's ever plugged into a wall,
• 55:06
  whether it's your lamp or a therapy device, Wi-Fi, smart
• 55:10
  devices, they all create non-native Emfs, which is
• 55:13
  non-native electromagnetic fields.
• 55:15
  And they can be inflammatory to the body.
• 55:17
  So you can be causing harm at the same time when you're trying
• 55:19
  to do something good. And that may be why an animal
• 55:21
  might be like, I'm not going near there that thing and laying
• 55:24
  on it because it's spiking all kinds of electricity off of the
• 55:27
  device. So honestly, the safer the
• 55:30
  devices are battery operated. And then it just depends on
• 55:33
  design. Some people put like big bulky
• 55:34
  battery packs on their devices. Sometimes animals don't like
• 55:37
  that or it's not convenient. But like all of our products are
• 55:40
  rechargeable lithium batteries, it's tucked into the product
• 55:43
  itself, so it doesn't. Yeah, you can't even see them.
• 55:47
  That's. And you charge it right through
• 55:50
  the the on off button. Yes.
• 55:52
  There's a little hole there. In addition to that, I always
• 55:55
  tell people you might buy that product at the Amazon for $200
• 55:58
  and you might get lucky. OK, I'll always be honest.
• 56:00
  Light works. Even if you buy the extremely
• 56:02
  strong laser at home for $14,000, it's probably going to
• 56:05
  work. You wasted a lot of money, but
• 56:06
  it's probably going to work. The difference is if something
• 56:09
  happens with that Amazon device and it hurts your animal or
• 56:12
  stops working or you don't know how to do protocols, you don't
• 56:15
  get customer service, you don't get a light expert.
• 56:18
  You know, there's a lot of even brands like Schneider's and like
• 56:20
  PetSmart and Chewy that are having some red light devices on
• 56:24
  it. Well, when you call for customer
• 56:25
  service, they're not getting a light expert.
• 56:27
  I have the leading photo modulation veterinarian on
• 56:30
  staff. He's been on light since the
• 56:32
  70s. He's not building lasers
• 56:33
  anymore. He's working with our products.
• 56:36
  I have Julie, who is an amazing light therapist.
• 56:38
  It's been around it for 10 years on staff and everybody that
• 56:41
  works for us gets trained on quantum biology, gets trained on
• 56:44
  light. Right now you're still getting
• 56:46
  direct contact to me actually in the company.
• 56:48
  And so we try to help as much as possible.
• 56:50
  In addition, I test every single product before I send it to
• 56:54
  customer to make sure it has the wavelengths, to make sure it has
• 56:57
  the right power. So this is another honest,
• 57:00
  transparent thing. All red light therapy is made in
• 57:02
  China. All of it, including ours.
• 57:04
  I've been to China, I've worked with many, I have contracts in
• 57:07
  place and I have spectrometers and devices here to test the
• 57:11
  products to make sure, because if China runs out of like a
• 57:13
  specific wavelength, they'll just send you whatever because
• 57:17
  they can. They're 8000 miles away.
• 57:20
  And so if you don't need to test for that or if you don't know
• 57:22
  all of that education, then you're just getting whatever
• 57:24
  because you've jumped on the bandwagon to sell the newest,
• 57:26
  hottest trend to a pet parent. Now saying all of that, when we
• 57:30
  do think about the investment of our products, just think about
• 57:34
  how expensive cancer is. Think about how expensive
• 57:37
  arthritis is and the medicines and the time and stress taken to
• 57:41
  the vets and time off of work. Think about how expensive a
• 57:43
  laser is. So yes, it's an investment, but
• 57:46
  if you think about the money that you will save from
• 57:49
  preventing other medications or injuries or surgeries because
• 57:52
  we've done it, you're saving a whole lot and you're actually
• 57:55
  giving the most vital nutrient to your pet's body that it's
• 57:58
  starving and deficient in because of its indoor lifestyle.
• 58:02
  We do give a two year warranty on all of our products.
• 58:05
  The LEDs are medical grade. They're guaranteed for 50,000
• 58:08
  hours, which would be like 7 or 8 years if you use it all day
• 58:11
  every day, which you won't be. So we truly try to stand behind
• 58:14
  a product. I'm very confident that we built
• 58:16
  the most optimal product for animals on the market and.
• 58:19
  Let me add, let me add to pricing.
• 58:22
  It is actually very affordable. After working with other
• 58:25
  companies this with, you're going to get a 10% discount from
• 58:30
  the 2 crazy cat ladies. With your 10% discount you could
• 58:34
  buy this for $266. You're getting like a Ferrari
• 58:38
  compared to the crap on Amazon. The pad Jackie has is 335.
• 58:43
  Normally with the discount it's around 301.
• 58:47
  You're not getting that on Amazon and you're not getting 5
• 58:50
  wavelengths. You know I also.
• 58:52
  Love. Well, first of all, I just have
• 58:53
  to say, you know, light therapy is one of those things we start
• 58:56
  seeing lots and lots of products and Abscess tooth and it's like,
• 58:59
  oh, you need red light therapy. We got a little $15 wand off of
• 59:03
  I'm just holding it there like I'm, I didn't notice anything.
• 59:07
  But whatever. I love the education, I love the
• 59:10
  passion behind it. I love the real life lived
• 59:13
  experience. I love the how you backup your
• 59:16
  product. I just love being able to
• 59:19
  understand it. It's like we we learn about new
• 59:21
  things, but if you don't understand it, it's it, it makes
• 59:24
  it pretty useless. So, you know, I feel like, yeah,
• 59:30
  I feel like we're going to have to make an investment, one of
• 59:32
  those pads or maybe five of them, and that we can also use
• 59:36
  them. You know I.
• 59:37
  Think that's like the that's OK, so so.
• 59:40
  Just everyday, yeah. Listening right now actually our
• 59:45
  high point with tonight. That was our buy point.
• 59:48
  It was when she was like, it also helps your back.
• 59:51
  And I was like, Oh my God, a very.
• 59:52
  Menopausal woman. Here right?
• 59:54
  OK. Yes.
• 59:56
  You need to get our new human pad which is full body and then
• 1:00:01
  we lay all the cats on the pad with you and you all get a
• 1:00:04
  treatment at once that would. Be amazing.
• 1:00:07
  Yeah, that would be amazing. You would laugh at me in the
• 1:00:10
  morning. I'm lying in bed because I don't
• 1:00:12
  have the human 1 yet. I have two pads on me usually.
• 1:00:15
  I usually do. My face, it's great.
• 1:00:16
  It's builds collagen. It's great for, I mean, I'm
• 1:00:19
  believe it or not, I'm 70 years old.
• 1:00:21
  I you don't see wrinkles or anything.
• 1:00:23
  I've been using red. Light.
• 1:00:24
  No way. I just turned 70.
• 1:00:28
  Yeah, yeah. So you could so you could like
• 1:00:33
  use it on your face. And then I have the two dogs
• 1:00:37
  with their pads on. So we have 4 pads going in the
• 1:00:39
  morning laying in the bed and all of us are getting our light.
• 1:00:43
  Wow and. That's another question.
• 1:00:45
  So especially when it comes to cats, if we're really wanting to
• 1:00:47
  treat something specific, we've got a cat that's dealing with
• 1:00:49
  renal issues or hyperthyroidism or something like that.
• 1:00:52
  You're saying that basically? There's not a bad way to do it
• 1:00:54
  at home. We can't do it wrong, but we.
• 1:00:56
  Wouldn't do it too much. Is is it like?
• 1:00:59
  15 minutes. Yes.
• 1:01:01
  So number one, I do want everybody to understand you
• 1:01:03
  can't overdo it. You can't cause any type of
• 1:01:05
  harm. The, the cell will only fill up
• 1:01:06
  with as much light as it needs and then you wouldn't be getting
• 1:01:09
  any more benefits. I never recommend more than a 30
• 1:01:12
  minute session at one time because that does seem to be
• 1:01:14
  kind of the threshold where it's like, OK, you got all the
• 1:01:16
  benefits you can get, take several hours as a break and
• 1:01:19
  then hit another session. It's going to be case dependent.
• 1:01:21
  When people get a new device, I always say like, let's do a
• 1:01:24
  loading dose of light. So let's do at least one session
• 1:01:26
  a day of that 15 minutes for 30 days and then reassess your,
• 1:01:30
  your animal, your cat, your dog, your horse.
• 1:01:32
  You know them best. You know their symptoms.
• 1:01:34
  Now, if we're dealing with a really nasty illness or, you
• 1:01:38
  know, injury or disease or something, they need more light.
• 1:01:41
  And with cats, they need more light.
• 1:01:43
  They're inside all the time. So like when I talk to dog
• 1:01:45
  owners, I'm like, if your dogs are out a lot, they're getting a
• 1:01:48
  lot of natural light. They don't need light as much,
• 1:01:50
  just only for targeted treatments.
• 1:01:52
  So with most cats, if they're indoor cats, they are completely
• 1:01:56
  deficient in red and near for light.
• 1:01:57
  So we need to start seeing this as a supplement, not just a
• 1:02:01
  therapy device. And that's our bigger message as
• 1:02:03
  the company of like we need to be seeing what it is a
• 1:02:05
  supplement. It's the most vital nutrient
• 1:02:07
  your body needs that we are deficient in.
• 1:02:09
  If you were going to, you know, if you found out your cat was
• 1:02:12
  deficient in vitamin D or C or selenium or something, you're
• 1:02:15
  either going to find it in real food or you're going to
• 1:02:17
  supplement it. So the bodies are actually
• 1:02:19
  deficient in the most vital nutrient.
• 1:02:21
  That's always like the gut punch that I want to give.
• 1:02:23
  Now, again, when we talk about budgets, I'm always a big
• 1:02:27
  proponent of like, what can we do for free?
• 1:02:29
  What can we do ourselves? There's some scrappy people out
• 1:02:31
  there that will do whatever they want for their pet if they can
• 1:02:34
  just do it themselves, even if they don't have the money.
• 1:02:35
  So I always want to say get outside, get you and your pet
• 1:02:40
  outside as often and frequent for as long as you can
• 1:02:44
  throughout the whole day, sunrise and sunset.
• 1:02:46
  You're only getting read in the infrared.
• 1:02:48
  So that is a super healing time before work, after work during
• 1:02:52
  the day. And I know there's like cat
• 1:02:55
  businesses or you could probably build your own of like little
• 1:02:58
  cat patios that you can attach to a window where they can
• 1:03:00
  actually go outside and just sit on a ledge or like the big cat
• 1:03:03
  patios. Now that companies are building
• 1:03:04
  like invest in that and you're going to invest in the best
• 1:03:08
  thing for their health more than a shot, more than like some
• 1:03:11
  vitamin that was made in a manufacturing plant.
• 1:03:13
  Like do that. It's.
• 1:03:16
  Crazy too, because we do. We we call them Catios.
• 1:03:18
  Yeah, we. Call patios the.
• 1:03:20
  Word didn't fall like that's what it is, Catios.
• 1:03:23
  How many people in our in our community know this?
• 1:03:25
  Our cats are sun addicts. They want, they do not wait to
• 1:03:29
  go outside first thing in the morning.
• 1:03:30
  Those morning birds are out and they want to be out in that
• 1:03:33
  catiot at at night when the sun is going down.
• 1:03:36
  They want. It's like they already know.
• 1:03:38
  I know they know. They love they're.
• 1:03:41
  So much smarter than it. Think of the old G cat, the
• 1:03:45
  Sphinx in Egypt. He's on the ground, grounded to
• 1:03:49
  the earth and facing the direction of the sun to come up.
• 1:03:52
  So he's in chase. From the very beginning, always.
• 1:03:56
  That's a mic drop right there. Mic drop.
• 1:03:59
  Oh my God. OK, so just so you know everyone
• 1:04:02
  listening, yes, we are going to have to have you back for
• 1:04:04
  quantum biology and a conversation about EMS too,
• 1:04:08
  because you guys have really you've lived up our lives,
• 1:04:12
  right? You've lived up.
• 1:04:13
  We're. Supposed to be packing tonight
• 1:04:14
  because we. Leave in the morning, I just
• 1:04:15
  want to keep talking. With Maria, we're yeah, we're
• 1:04:18
  just going to, we're just going to keep talking about this.
• 1:04:20
  OK, so are you guys, so your link is in our bio or link is
• 1:04:25
  in? It's your link, your link for
• 1:04:29
  them to use. If.
• 1:04:30
  People send. Another another honest caveat if
• 1:04:34
  people are already getting on the website right now.
• 1:04:36
  So we were on Inside Scoop and we were on Doctor Judy's
• 1:04:39
  back-to-back last month until like sold out right now.
• 1:04:43
  So they're gonna get to the website and like, damn it, you
• 1:04:45
  know, just know that we're working really hard.
• 1:04:48
  Everything is going to be restocked within the next two
• 1:04:50
  weeks, but you can already make the order.
• 1:04:52
  Like everything on the website is ready for you to make it.
• 1:04:54
  Just know that we will get it to you as soon as possible.
• 1:04:56
  Everything is coming in two weeks and I made a large order
• 1:04:59
  so we shouldn't have this problem again, but was so
• 1:05:01
  excited to come already on this podcast just so we can share
• 1:05:04
  this information. You can already start getting
• 1:05:05
  your cat outside or you can get a torch or something like that
• 1:05:08
  to get started. But we promise everything will
• 1:05:10
  be back when and in two weeks, and I'll get it to you as soon
• 1:05:12
  as possible. And if.
• 1:05:14
  People have questions, they can reach out to me.
• 1:05:16
  I'm always fielding the questions.
• 1:05:19
  My e-mail is positive soul, so PAWSITIVESOL at Gmail everyone.
• 1:05:31
  Here is going to. Spend the next two weeks like
• 1:05:34
  doing their research and asking the question.
• 1:05:36
  Let me tell you something, after Inside Scoop, Jackie knew it was
• 1:05:39
  like 24/7. I'm like, Oh my God, I can't do
• 1:05:41
  anything. All I'm doing is getting emails.
• 1:05:43
  But we answered questions and we got a lot of people like
• 1:05:45
  devices, so it worked out really well.
• 1:05:48
  That's beautiful and that's the whole purpose, right, is to
• 1:05:50
  change the world is to save, you know, save the animals.
• 1:05:53
  And that's that's that's what makes it all worth it.
• 1:05:56
  The world is the animal in the world.
• 1:06:00
  With light and, and back to what you said about timing, like Andy
• 1:06:04
  is hesitant sometimes with the light.
• 1:06:06
  So I'll only do 3-3 minutes, 5 minutes.
• 1:06:09
  It's still getting light in her body.
• 1:06:11
  When you're stimulating a point with this, you only really need
• 1:06:14
  30 seconds. It's set for three minutes, but
• 1:06:17
  you're not going to do 3 minutes most of the time you're just
• 1:06:19
  going to, you know, if you do 30 seconds, you're doing, you know,
• 1:06:22
  something beneficial. Yeah, something nothing and that
• 1:06:26
  animals really know. Like sometimes us humans, we
• 1:06:28
  really get in the way of healing and we make things super
• 1:06:31
  complicated. The animals already know.
• 1:06:33
  So sometimes, you know, like when I used to do massages on
• 1:06:35
  dogs and cats, especially cats, they just didn't need as much
• 1:06:39
  sometimes if they were really healthy.
• 1:06:41
  But I'm like, your owner is paying me right now.
• 1:06:43
  Like I need to work on you for like 10 minutes, but they would
• 1:06:45
  just 5-8 minutes and they would just go out of your hands and be
• 1:06:47
  like, I'm good. I got what I needed.
• 1:06:49
  Like thank you very much. Bam, bam, thank you, Bam.
• 1:06:51
  You know so well it's like. The vacuum puncture, they throw
• 1:06:54
  the needle out when they're, you know, when they don't need that
• 1:06:56
  point anymore. Yeah, it makes me.
• 1:06:58
  Wonder because because I Oliver was never a big fan of the light
• 1:07:04
  pad that we had that plugged into the wall.
• 1:07:06
  Yeah. And there you go, BMS the
• 1:07:09
  emails. No doubt.
• 1:07:10
  They could probably send me what's coming off of it.
• 1:07:13
  Yeah, no doubt. I have.
• 1:07:16
  Every cat I know like, gravitates to the pads.
• 1:07:19
  They like them. They're not hot, but there's
• 1:07:21
  just a little bit of warmth there and they just like cuddle
• 1:07:24
  up on them. Oh, I cannot wait.
• 1:07:26
  We're gonna need ours tonight, so thank you.
• 1:07:29
  Guys, thank you Jackie, thank you so much.
• 1:07:32
  This truly has been illuminating and I.
• 1:07:37
  Look forward to it. Mike, you ladies were awesome.
• 1:07:42
  Thank you for sharing Light with your beautiful community.
• 1:07:44
  We're so excited to also help all the felines and I hope that
• 1:07:48
  you do OK packing tonight and getting on the road and just
• 1:07:50
  having lots of conversations about Light and anytime you want
• 1:07:53
  us to have us come back on, I'm I'm more than happy.
• 1:07:56
  And I might had also, if anybody who does get a device and you
• 1:08:01
  have a, you know, a complicated case or something, you know,
• 1:08:04
  bad, you know, medically bad with your animal and it helps.
• 1:08:07
  Send us the info, send us the pictures.
• 1:08:10
  We have so many with dogs, but we're building our case studies
• 1:08:13
  with cats. I have very few at this point.
• 1:08:17
  Yes, let's go, let's go, cat community.
• 1:08:20
  Let's. I'm striding to try to like
• 1:08:22
  start a cat book. I mean, it's, it's helped the
• 1:08:26
  people who've used it so far, but I just need more and more
• 1:08:29
  and more. Come on, community, let's do it.
• 1:08:32
  Let's go. Let's ladies.
• 1:08:35
  Thank you guys so much. For joining us.
• 1:08:37
  Thank you. And and we will see you all
• 1:08:41
  very. Soon.
• 1:08:42
  Have a good night everybody. Good.
• 1:08:43
  Night, everybody. Thank you.
• 1:08:45
  Bye.