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The Most Dramatic Book Club Ever: The Love Producer by Julie LaPlaca · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous Podcast with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Almost Famous crew.
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  Speaker 1: Hey.
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  Speaker 3: It's producer Heather, and we're on the most dramatic book
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  Speaker 3: club ever.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that a great title?
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  Speaker 4: Not because of the books, but because of the people
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  Speaker 4: talking about it.
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  Speaker 3: We couldn't... Not choose the most dramatic book right now
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  Speaker 3: in Bachelor Nation, like as our first book that we're
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  Speaker 3: reviewing on the show. So obviously we're talking about The
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  Speaker 3: Love Producer by Julie LaPlaca, former Bachelor producer. She joined
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  Speaker 3: early on, I think around Colton's season. And the book
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  Speaker 3: really focuses, though, on her time on Peter Weber's season.
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  Speaker 3: So today I'm here with some of our favorite Goldens.
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  Speaker 3: I've got Kathy, Joan, Susan, and Cindy, who have all
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  Speaker 3: read the book. And we've all got a lot to
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  Speaker 3: say about it.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, we do.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, we do.
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  Speaker 2: First off, did you guys watch Pilot Pete's season?
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  Speaker 1: Bits and pieces.
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  Speaker 2: Bits and pieces.
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  Speaker 1: Bits and pieces.
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  Speaker 2: Bits and pieces.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well, I can say I watched the entire thing.
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  Speaker 1: I could say we liked him.
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  Speaker 2: He was very cute. He was cute as can be.
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  Speaker 3: I completely forgot that he still lived at home with
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  Speaker 3: his parents until rereading this book. It just makes me
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  Speaker 3: laugh because we build up this character of The Bachelor
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  Speaker 3: to be the most eligible single man in America. I
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  Speaker 3: think that's how they used to actually promote him.
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  Speaker 2: One would hope.
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  Speaker 3: And so to remember that pilot Pete was still living
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  Speaker 3: at home with Barb when he was filming this.
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  Speaker 2: And then for many years afterwards. It makes me laugh.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's silly.
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  Speaker 2: It is silly to think about.
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  Speaker 6: Can I just say?
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 6: I am really looking for a guy who's living at
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  Speaker 6: home with his mom. That would be a red flag.
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  Speaker 4: You know, at our age, they actually might be.
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  Speaker 2: They might be.
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  Speaker 3: So did you guys, well, first of all, so this
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  Speaker 3: book comes out. There was a lot of buzz at first.
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  Speaker 3: It seemed positive before it came out. It seemed positive
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  Speaker 3: for a little bit right when it did come out.
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  Speaker 3: And then things kind of took a shift and a turn.
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  Speaker 3: Because people read it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think somebody— It wasn't just a concept.
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  Speaker 3: I think some Bachelor people made comments that didn't read it.
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  Speaker 3: And made some judgments and opinions, and we'll get into that.
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  Speaker 3: But I want to know, just off the bat, what
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  Speaker 3: was all of your takes personally on Julie reading this book?
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  Speaker 2: What did you think of her personality? What did you
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  Speaker 2: think of her work ethic? Tell me about that.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's all about her. But then again... In
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  Speaker 1: the same breath, I want to say that's what it's about.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's her journey.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Her story.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Susan, I want you to divulge a little bit
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  Speaker 3: more because you actually texted me and said, I can't
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  Speaker 3: wait to talk about this.
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  Speaker 2: I related to her so much.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think any of our people here are
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  Speaker 1: going to agree with me.
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  Speaker 5: Tell me.
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  Speaker 1: I think you and I might agree. Her vulnerability and
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  Speaker 1: her story. I felt that struggle that she was falling
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  Speaker 1: for somebody that she couldn't have. And I felt bad.
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  Speaker 1: And her parents were her biggest cheerleaders. And she went
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  Speaker 1: through life like that, getting pushed up in her job
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  Speaker 1: as a producer so quickly, like everything went to her head.
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  Speaker 1: And I really thought that she thought she was going
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  Speaker 1: to end up with him.
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  Speaker 2: Give me another perspective. Who else? What'd you guys think
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  Speaker 2: about Julie?
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  Speaker 4: Mine's more similar to yours, and I think yours too
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  Speaker 4: will be. I thought, okay, this is how I feel
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  Speaker 4: about it. When you only have certain tragedies in your life,
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  Speaker 4: that is the biggest tragedy you've ever had.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 4: And it's really difficult for those people who have had
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  Speaker 4: bigger tragedies to say, oh, and to really relate to her.
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  Speaker 4: That's where I struggled, is relating to her. Like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: your life isn't that difficult. You're kind of making bad
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  Speaker 4: decisions about men. you're jumping into relationships really quickly. So
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  Speaker 4: I just had a hard time relating to it. But
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  Speaker 4: to Susan's point, I did like in the end that
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  Speaker 4: she feels that we really are the lead of our life.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought that was a good message in the end.
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  Speaker 2: I do not like the way.
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  Speaker 6: She could have said that on page one.
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  Speaker 1: I know, but yes, yes.
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  Speaker 4: But she feels like she's gone through a journey, and
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  Speaker 4: this is her journey, and she is at a higher
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  Speaker 4: place than she was when she started.
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  Speaker 6: Can I ask a question?
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 6: I wasn't going to do this.
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  Speaker 1: But you are.
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  Speaker 2: But you are.
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  Speaker 6: Here we go. It's Kathy, and I'm doing it. I
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  Speaker 6: thought it was a very self-serving book about- things that
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  Speaker 6: her life that I thought she lived a very, what's
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  Speaker 6: the word I want? Sheltered. Sheltered and supported life by
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  Speaker 6: her family.
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  Speaker 1: And what's wrong with that?
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  Speaker 2: Nothing.
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  Speaker 6: But I'm always interested that people think their life story
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  Speaker 6: is so important.
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  Speaker 3: I think I know what you're getting at. It's what
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  Speaker 3: made this journey worth sharing.
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  Speaker 2: Worth sharing.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I feel the same way. And I feel like the.
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  Speaker 7: The title of the book, Love Producer, and knowing that
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  Speaker 7: she was a producer on The Bachelor, people thought they
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  Speaker 7: were going to read this and get some tea about Bachelor.
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  Speaker 2: You got no tea about Bachelor.
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  Speaker 7: You just got a lot of stories about a girl
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  Speaker 7: who had a lot of opportunities to fall in love,
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  Speaker 7: yet used her position as a producer to put her
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  Speaker 7: in a position that she was.
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  Speaker 2: With Pilot Pete a lot.
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  Speaker 6: And Joan?
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  Speaker 2: And by the way.
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  Speaker 7: Late at night, while they were drinking, and then all
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  Speaker 7: of a sudden there's now a victim that he slept.
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  Speaker 2: With her when she put herself in that position.
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  Speaker 6: And regardless of what anyone thinks of the Bachelor franchise,
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  Speaker 6: to me it was shitting on the Bachelor franchise. Oh,
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  Speaker 6: by the way, I was sleeping with Pilot Pete, which
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  Speaker 6: we all know as... as people who've been members of
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  Speaker 6: the Bachelor franchise, that you don't do that. You don't
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  Speaker 6: do that.
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  Speaker 2: That's a power position.
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  Speaker 6: So to me, it was using that as a hook,
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  Speaker 6: as a lure to get people to read the book.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we did have her on the pod, and we
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  Speaker 3: straight up asked her, would you have gotten a book
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  Speaker 3: deal without this story?
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  Speaker 2: And she said, Answered no.
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  Speaker 6: Well, there you go.
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  Speaker 5: She was honest about it.
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  Speaker 6: So right there, to me, it diminishes the value of
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  Speaker 6: her story. Joan and I have spoken a little bit
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  Speaker 6: about this. I read that book. I listened to it, actually,
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  Speaker 6: while I was walking because I didn't want to waste
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  Speaker 6: time reading it. And I thought that... she lived a
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  Speaker 6: life of, you know, when did you stop working? And
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  Speaker 6: I know Chris Harrison and his forward that he wrote
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  Speaker 6: was so admiring. Yes, he admires her. He thinks she's wonderful.
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  Speaker 6: And she, she rose to the top so quickly. And
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  Speaker 6: I'm thinking, did you rise to the top quickly because
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  Speaker 6: you're all that, or everybody was quitting and fired? And
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, because I wasn't there.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of turnover at the bachelor a lot of.
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  Speaker 8: Turnover so were you that good and through the pandemic
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  Speaker 8: too right but it's so difficult to go from a
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  Speaker 8: date producer directly to producing the lead it's surprising that
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  Speaker 8: she didn't produce cast instead of the lead again we
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  Speaker 8: weren't there.
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  Speaker 7: Originally she produced cast i think she went to date
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  Speaker 7: and then was cast and then went to lead really
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  Speaker 7: really quickly.
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  Speaker 6: Either or but it was a very fast i thought.
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  Speaker 7: It was very telling when she talked about producing Hannah Brown,
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  Speaker 7: who is a.
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  Speaker 2: Very loved bachelorette.
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  Speaker 7: Everybody loves her morals, everybody loves her quirkiness, all these things,
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  Speaker 7: and that Hannah really didn't like her. I think she
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  Speaker 7: saw the thing that I felt like I saw in
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  Speaker 7: the book, that she was a little bit arrogant, that
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  Speaker 7: she felt like she was better than maybe her position
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  Speaker 7: should have made her feel.
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  Speaker 2: Can I say, I don't fully agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: I think that maybe she does think she's great, Um,
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  Speaker 3: the vibe I get just from watching interviews, right?
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know her. I've never met her. I've
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  Speaker 2: never worked with her, but you.
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  Speaker 3: All know that like, I've done obviously very similar jobs
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  Speaker 3: as her and been in the industry maybe around the
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  Speaker 3: same amount of time, maybe longer. Um, she does not
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  Speaker 3: strike me as a personality that I would be.
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  Speaker 2: Shoulder to shoulder.
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  Speaker 3: She who?
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  Speaker 2: Hannah? No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Like your buddy on set.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we're saying.
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  Speaker 3: But she's not the kind of personality that you tend
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  Speaker 3: to meet behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: And to me, she feels easily moldable by higher ups.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that that is actually where the rise
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  Speaker 3: comes from. And I think the praise from Chris Harrison
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  Speaker 3: comes from the level of optimism and high energy and
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  Speaker 3: positivity that she brings right because we often meet a
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  Speaker 3: lot of pessimistic upset people behind the scenes especially ones
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  Speaker 3: that have been on shows for a really long time
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  Speaker 3: and so i think that's what makes her stand out
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  Speaker 3: and enjoyable is that she's She clearly is very invested
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  Speaker 3: in the idea of love.
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  Speaker 2: She will not stop talking about it.
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  Speaker 3: She wanted to be a contestant before she was on
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  Speaker 3: the show, which I think speaks volumes, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: And then told her.
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  Speaker 6: She may be a contestant. Hold on, if you believe that.
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  Speaker 6: I think the Vic, I don't believe that.
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  Speaker 2: This book has struck a chord, though.
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  Speaker 6: No, it didn't.
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  Speaker 4: I think, I think.
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  Speaker 6: I think the engagement with her guy, all this, she
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  Speaker 6: had a, and I hate saying this, a victim mentality.
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  Speaker 6: Everything was done to her. I didn't feel that.
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  Speaker 5: I did.
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  Speaker 6: And the other thing I want to say, and then
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  Speaker 6: I will let y'all have the hey there. For a minute.
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  Speaker 6: For a minute. I thought that... I don't know what
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  Speaker 6: bachelor franchise pays their people. But I know they work
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  Speaker 6: really hard and then they get some time off. And
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  Speaker 6: this girl is trying. the world and going to visit
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  Speaker 6: this one and that one and then decides.
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  Speaker 2: Very typical. Very typical. Because of their schedule.
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  Speaker 6: Then decides she's going to study rocks and chemicals and Reiki.
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  Speaker 2: Also very typical.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not going to lie.
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  Speaker 3: I've had very, very, lots of people in the industry
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  Speaker 3: go one day, I'm going to go be a healer.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go.
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  Speaker 3: Be a nurse.
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  Speaker 6: So then what makes her story any different? There you go.
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  Speaker 2: What makes her story different is the Pilot Pete story.
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  Speaker 6: And she wrote it.
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  Speaker 2: It's in there.
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  Speaker 1: And she slept with the lead.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it is.
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  Speaker 7: You know what I'll tell you as a lead? When
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  Speaker 7: I was reading about how, and she talked about this
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  Speaker 7: a lot, about her job was to manipulate people and
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  Speaker 7: to get them to say things that they wouldn't have
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  Speaker 7: normally said.
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  Speaker 2: It made me think. It really was, honestly.
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  Speaker 7: Because I feel like I'm a pretty strong person.
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  Speaker 1: Because you start thinking back.
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  Speaker 2: I'm older, so I'm not.
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  Speaker 7: Like a young 20-year-old that you can. And so I
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  Speaker 7: thought I held my own really well. And I think back,
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  Speaker 7: and I have a really close relationship with my producer, Bradford.
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  Speaker 7: I love him to death. He's like a son to me.
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  Speaker 6: We love you, Bradford.
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  Speaker 2: I used to work with Bradford before he was on
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  Speaker 2: The Bachelor.
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  Speaker 3: He was the best.
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  Speaker 7: I requested him to be my producer, and he's been
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  Speaker 7: a lead producer for a lot of time. But I
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  Speaker 7: think back at some interviews where I can tell he really.
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  Speaker 2: Wants me to cry.
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  Speaker 7: And I don't like crying in public. I don't like
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  Speaker 7: crying at all. Like, I try to be really strong.
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  Speaker 7: And I knew that he was trying to get me
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  Speaker 7: to cry.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, he was... Like, I was being manipulated.
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  Speaker 2: He was doing his job, but I feel a little
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  Speaker 2: manipulated now. Because somebody else told him. I'm sure, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the hard part about the job. And then
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  Speaker 2: when he couldn't, they would send in another producer.
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  Speaker 7: They would send in one of the EPs. And then
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  Speaker 7: I knew that I was not crying for Bradford. Now
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  Speaker 7: they sent him in, or her in. And then I
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  Speaker 7: felt bad that I didn't do it for Bradford.
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  Speaker 3: It's a very unique experience that all of you have
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  Speaker 3: gone through.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not easy. And this is why.
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  Speaker 3: I made the decision to get out of production early
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  Speaker 3: on in my career because I didn't like having to
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  Speaker 3: do that.
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  Speaker 2: I hate that. And I was bad.
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  Speaker 3: This is what I related to in her book. When
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  Speaker 3: she talks about being an empath, when she talks about
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  Speaker 3: when the talent cries, I cry. I had times where
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  Speaker 3: I made somebody cry, was told, you need to get
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  Speaker 3: it together.
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  Speaker 2: You need to leave the room. You can't be crying
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  Speaker 2: at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: And then go into the other person's room and say
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  Speaker 3: the complete opposite of what I just said to that
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  Speaker 3: person and in.
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  Speaker 2: Order to get them upset. And it does not feel good.
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  Speaker 3: And so I shifted my career and I moved back
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  Speaker 3: from that when she talks about the really long hours,
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  Speaker 3: working on the weekends.
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  Speaker 1: All that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: It really is draining and I understand why she's constantly
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  Speaker 3: talking about being in a suitcase, and then she's here, she's.
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  Speaker 2: There, she can't maintain... That all sounds very realistic.
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  Speaker 3: She can't maintain a relationship back at home because she's
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  Speaker 3: constantly gone.
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  Speaker 2: These are all real things.
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  Speaker 1: Was it James that she lost?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And honestly, that part of the book was kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 7: That was the most interesting part of it.
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  Speaker 6: Because I think that we all.
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  Speaker 7: Really wanted to know, and we all know some behind
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  Speaker 7: the scenes, obviously. We know that part of it, but
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  Speaker 7: it was interesting to read it and hear it from
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  Speaker 7: her perspective and how... like how hard it is to
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  Speaker 7: have a life and like missing her own grandfather's funeral.
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  Speaker 7: Those kind of decisions that you have to make in
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  Speaker 7: that position is awful. And I think we felt that
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  Speaker 7: we all were very close to our producers because you know,
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  Speaker 7: we're older. We felt like they were like our kids.
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  Speaker 7: So I loved that part of the book. That was
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  Speaker 7: the only part of the book I really loved. I
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  Speaker 7: really hated her journey. I hated that she spent the
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  Speaker 7: night at At the house, at the parents' house.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about that. After they've been drinking. Let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about that. We all knew what was going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: But the families.
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  Speaker 2: It really bothered me. The families got along.
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  Speaker 1: Both families.
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  Speaker 6: But wait, how does that happen? And why is that
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  Speaker 6: important to us as a reader?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you.
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  Speaker 1: Because it was sharing her story and that was part
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  Speaker 1: of her story.
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  Speaker 2: But part of her job is also to maintain a
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  Speaker 2: level of professionalism.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: They were done with the show. What was that? They
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  Speaker 2: were done with their show. But guess what? They're still
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  Speaker 2: doing press. When you're done with the show.
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  Speaker 6: You're done.
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  Speaker 2: You're done with the job.
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  Speaker 6: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: And you don't.
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  Speaker 6: You zip it.
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  Speaker 1: Call up.
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  Speaker 3: When she's talking about, we were in post, and I'd
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  Speaker 3: have a long day, and then I'd end up at
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  Speaker 3: Peter's house to watch the episodes as they're airing.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you're right. That is not normal.
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  Speaker 6: That was not the Uber driver saying there's only one
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  Speaker 6: address I can take you to.
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  Speaker 2: And not only that, you are not in production anymore,
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  Speaker 2: but he is still sequestered.
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  Speaker 7: He can't be with the person that he is engaged
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  Speaker 7: to or if he has a relationship.
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  Speaker 2: They are still in, I mean, the show is airing.
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  Speaker 2: She should not be having that kind of relationship with him.
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  Speaker 6: Wait, there's one other thing that you guys haven't mentioned.
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  Speaker 6: She says at the end, you know, the angst of,
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  Speaker 6: should I tell him? When do I tell him face-to-face?
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: I'm going to tell him. Yada, yada, yada. And then
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: she tells him, and what does he say? I wish
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: you had told me. Why did you wait so long? Not, wow,
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: you're my girl. It's like, what the hell are we
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: having this conversation for now? If that didn't give her
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: the closure, the information that she needed.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: It did.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: It definitely did.
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: But I'm saying- it led me to believe that this
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: relationship was more in her head. It was sex for him.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: I will agree with this. It was definitely in her head.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: It was sex for him and relationship in her head.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: And I also want you.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: Guys to remember because you didn't watch Pilot Pete's season.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: He was very confused with everything. So he ended his engagement.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: He tried to get back with his runner-up. Then he
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: dated the girl that was fourth place on and off for.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Four years after filming.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: She broke up with him the final time, by the way,
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: and went on a podcast and said the reason she
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: broke up with him... was because he liked to play
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: video games and Pokemon.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, my.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: No.
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: Oh, my.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: All these amazing women. At his mom's house. He was
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: The Bachelor.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: So I'm just saying, when I've heard that about him
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: and his level of maturity and her being slightly older,
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: but how she portrays her level of maturity in this book,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: it does feel like a connect. But as somebody who
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: has been in situations where, for a living- I've put
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: very hot single men on television and gotten them to
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: open up to me. Put them in these romantic situations.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Did you ever feel anything?
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. But I will say that I said this
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: to somebody.
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: Because she's a professional.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I said this to somebody the other day.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: I have had male contestants who have texted me and said,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: when I get on the show, when I come out
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: to LA for finals, when da-da-da-da-da-da-da, I'd like to take
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: you for a drink.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I'd like to take you for dinner. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: Just as a.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Courtesy or as a flirt?
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Who knows? But the answer is it's a no. And
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: it's inappropriate.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: And I've never done it except for I did have
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: one guy on a show who wanted to take me
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: to breakfast.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: He was in town. And I said... Absolutely.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Let me see if my associate is available to join us.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I know he would like to see you as well.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: That was smart.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Because what went through my mind and what should have
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: gone through her mind when she was doing this was, no,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: what if I bump into my boss when I'm out?
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: What if I bump into an executive from the show
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: who then sees me with this guy alone?
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: These are all things that I would never want to
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: be known as a girl who.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Fraternizes or hangs out with the talent by the way
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day it's a job and
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: i'm able.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: To separate disconnect.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Because i'm not this person's friend i'm doing my job
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: i'm getting them an opportunity now that's excluded with these
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: ladies here today because you're all friends with me and
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: i love.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: You all one thing jim did you and bennett ever
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: go out for a meal Just the two of you?
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: Bennett, Bradford.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Bradford, excuse me.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I talk to Bradford all the time. I'm an
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: engaged woman. Would that be.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: The same kind of thing?
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: No, because Joan did not sleep with Bradford.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: When I hear this, and I read her story, and
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: I hear that she's going over to.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: His house, and she's engaging and drinking.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: And families getting together.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: I'm like you, and now we're a victim. When I
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: read self-help books or biographies or diaries, whatever you want
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: to call them, I come away sometimes with life lessons
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: that are applicable to my life. I came away from
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: reading this exactly what you said. You went and drank
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: with them. That's why I called it self-serving. I did
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: not take any life lessons from people. her journey. And
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: I felt that she used Bachelor as a framework to
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: sort of just spout off about bad behavior, manipulation, things
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: that did not really give me any nuggets of, oh, wow,
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: I can take that and use it for my life.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: I think the overall thing that you could say is
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: that she dreamed big enough to get on the show.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: And she got herself to the show.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: She did.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: She started young and she was on the talk show
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: forever and doing great and got bored on The Doctors
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: and then moved on and always wanted The Bachelor. To me,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: it was her story.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: People that read it take what you want out of it.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: I'm going to write mine and you're going to read it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: And would you like me to say what you're saying?
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't get one. What did you say?
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: I didn't get any nuggets out of her life.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Nuggets out of your life.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: I felt like she had a positive message. Like, the
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: positive message evolved throughout the story. The story was very long.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: It was a little bit.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: And they had some bachelor.
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: Stuff mixed in it, pilot stuff mixed in it, with
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: other relationships and family stuff mixed in it.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: That's what she used to sell the book.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: It was just a little older. The ending is that
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: you need the ending. The long poem at the end
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: was so not needed. That was really crazy.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a little dreadful.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: What is the value in the book?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Tell me.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I felt like.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: No, you should be the leading lady.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Of your own life.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: I did not need to listen five and a half
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: hours to an audio book to get that. I know that.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: I don't give up on my dreams. I've taught my
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: children to dream.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Right, and that's what she did. She just shared it
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: with the world.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Who cares?
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: And her take was, because she had that, situation with
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: him if.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: She did not have the situation with pilot right that's
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: what and did not have that place in the bachelor
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: her book would have gathered doesn't matter though she did
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: it is that's the book.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Let's talk though about the part about her possibly being
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: the bachelorette that's thrown in there yeah That would be
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: highly unlikely.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I thought....
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I have conspiracy theory about all of it.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Did that really... Was that really said? Is that what
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you're questioning?
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it has to be real because
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: she did run this book by ABC and they approved it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And there's a lot of Mike Fleiss comments in it.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: So direct quotes. So it had to have happened.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Now....
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: It's hinted at from the very beginning.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: She gets bumped up into this role and immediately somebody
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: is saying to her.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Well, we hope you don't fall in love with Pilot Pete.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: It was weird, wasn't it?
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the seed was planted. I saw that. So the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: seed's planted, right?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: So somebody else is saying it to her right away.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't be stupid enough to fall in love with him.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't be stupid enough to do that. Let me
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: tell you, I've, never had anybody say.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: That to me. So the seeds planted, right?
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: So then they start filming the season and she keeps
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: asking herself throughout this whole time, am I falling for him?
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Do I like him? Is something happening? She keeps asking herself.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: She's not sure. And then the family starts saying they're
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: so cute. Well, guess what?
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Anytime we get some elderly people together and there's cute
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: young people.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: They love it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Everybody says that. I don't hold a whole lot of weight.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: It's very true.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: I don't hold a lot of weight in that.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: We all say it.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Everybody says it.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I've been told that me and the guy at the
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: grocery store would be cute together.
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: Whatever.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's what happens.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: Wait, if you don't want them, can I have them?
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: Sure.
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: But then... They talk about the chatter online starts.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Because the picture from New Year's Eve. Because the picture
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: from New Year's Eve.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: And I want to get into this because this is
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: where my conspiracy theory starts to run wild is that, yes,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: we know that Bachelor Nation fans deep dive and they
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: come up with things.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: Yes, they do.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Their opinions.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I think that this show is very heavily ingrained in
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: the narration of what comes out into the press. She
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: goes into great detail about how happy she felt and
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: accomplished she felt when she made it onto page six.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Of all places.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: She did say that.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: She is featured and she talks about in every major
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: news article. So we're not talking just about, but we're
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: not just talking about Reddit threads. And that's where the
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Bachelor fans live. But who has the connections to the
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: press outlets? The PR for the show.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: So to me.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: It's a planted story to garner up press. Do I
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: think that they ever had intention to make her the Bachelorette?
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Absolutely not. Do I think that they dangled the carrot? Absolutely.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I think it's not nice, but she was older. She
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: says this. She would have been the oldest Bachelorette.
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: She was six years older than Pilate.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, she would have been the oldest at the time.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: She is.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Has a huge history of being in production. People like
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: us never even make it past the starting line if
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: you want to be on a TV show. I've also
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: worked with people that are past contestants on different shows,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: and it never really works out. Talent always will say
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: to me, oh, I've been talent, so I know how
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: to find talent.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: No, that's not how it works.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: So it's usually a tough thing to go from being
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: on camera to being behind the camera, but She clearly
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: had aspirations of being in front of the camera.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: She was in modeling. She liked this. She, you know, applied.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: She loved the fact that she might be able to pick,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: find love.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: And I think that she enjoys the idea, right?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: they had any intention of ever giving her that role,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: but they probably weren't sure that the story was going
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: to take off like it did.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: And I think then they felt they had to do
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: a follow-up, like a follow-through on that, and then close
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: the loop.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: To keep it going.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: I don't think that's conspiracy theory at all. I think
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: you are right on the money.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Because you know what it sounds very much like?
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: So I remember when I went on The Golden Bachelor,
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: and we're all in this room with this guy that
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: we hardly know, and producers are saying to you, isn't
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: he cute? Like, I think he likes you. And then
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: they're like, she really likes him. Like, and she's talking
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: to him a lot more than you. Like, they were
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: dangling that carrot over her. Like, you wouldn't be stupid
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: enough to fall in love with him, would you?
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: But that's being good producers. They want the show to
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: be good.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: They're doing good producers, but now they're saying that they
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: are doing the same thing to her, maybe. You would never,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: ever say that to your coworker.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: If we were like back in a hotel, like, okay,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: me and my coworkers, when we're pitching guys and we're
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: putting guys into the mix for a show, I'll be like,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: oh my God, what a dreamboat.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, so cute. But I would never be like...
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Are you falling in love with him? Are you going
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: to hit that? Are you going to DM him after
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: and get with him? You would never.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: Let me be clear. You are saying, which I think
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: I agree, that this was... premeditated by absolutely and you
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: know what i absolutely.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: If you all think that this show does not have
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: a strong hold on the press that it gets.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: And hold on the narration of that that's what makes
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: the show that is what makes it yes so the
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: fact that she never had any sort of inkling and
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: started this feeling of Oh my gosh, my segment producer
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: and I were just talking and I opened up to
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: her and said, I kind of have a crush on Pete.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: But really, the first.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Inkling came from another coworker pointing it out to her.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: That's when I said, planting the seed. Because that's what
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Bachelor does. That's what they do.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: So wait, to be clear, are you saying that a
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: coworker of hers... Got it from the higher up, plant
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: the seed.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: That only has to be said once.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: So do you think that they wanted something to happen
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: during the shooting of this season?
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think they wanted something to happen.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: I think that they liked the idea of the press
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: being drummed up so you had to tune in to
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: see what happened.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Because this is the thing. Theories stay on Reddit.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: When it gets to the major press, major press outlets
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: don't run.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Theories.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: They double check it.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Yes. And how about when he did do the breakup
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and she was like all that time passed that he
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: never reached out to her? That's your clue right there.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: But see, that's why I'm reading this going, this is
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: a story that is literally being written in her head.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I believe that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is her story.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: That's exactly how I felt.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: That's what happened. It's her feeling, her emotion. They're making
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: you do it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: They're making you start to conjure up these feelings and
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: that's what everybody falls in love with the lead they're
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: very good at it but this goes back to me
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: saying she's not the kind of typical personality i would
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: work with behind the scenes she seems easily manipulated and
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: i think that that's they like that they do to.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: A certain extent right i don't think.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: With the lead you should can i ask you a
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: tough question with the lead.
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: Because you, I admire you. You know that. I think
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: you're a really smart woman, and I think you're very intuitive.
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: Do you think that she was promoted? Why do you
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: think she was promoted so quickly?
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: High turnover on the show.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I think no other reason. And I think, obviously, I
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: think she's also very high positivity. I think that's good energy.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Her energy, yes.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: But that's, I think, a reason why she didn't connect
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: with Hannah. I think Hannah is extremely strong and saw
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: her as weak.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: And I think that's why.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: I thought she saw her as a threat. I think
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: she saw through it.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I think she.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Saw the fact.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I think that it was her first time being a
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: lead producer.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: And I think she second guessed herself probably a lot.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: And if she was.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Needing to tag team and have somebody come in and
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: help her get bites and all that kind of stuff.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Why am I going to talk to this girl? She
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: doesn't know how to.
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: Get it out of me.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: She doesn't know what she's doing yet. And she's also
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: bad at her job. You know what I mean? I'm
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: not saying she's bad, but I think that that's the vibe.
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: She seems very confident. She talks about herself in a
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: very confident way. Other than when finding love.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't get that vibe. I didn't either. I didn't either.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I got the vibe in the book. I haven't listened
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: to the interview.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: But all the interview press that she did, I did
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: not get confident.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I didn't get that either.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I got it in the book.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I don't think she's ever had it this is what
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: I mean like she is not a personality.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: That you would meet on set I want to wrap
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: it up on this.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: What would you rate the book out of four stars
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: two 2.3.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't recommend it to any of my friends.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give it a two, though, because I
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: think it has.
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: A few interesting chapters in it. I'm not going to
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: rate it. I'm going to say I wish I had
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: the hours back that I spent listening to it.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: You're hardcore.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: She's scary.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Well, I want to hear from our listeners, obviously. So
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: call us with your thoughts. If you've read the book,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: if you loved it, if you hated it, whatever.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: We want to hear it. 844-5-ALMOST. Thanks, ladies, for joining
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: me on the most dramatic book club. I love it
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: that we kicked off with this book. We can't wait
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: for the next book.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't wait.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: For the next book. What's our next book? Trista's book. Oh,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: we'll read that.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a four-star.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Did anybody read Gary's?
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: No. Wait, can I just say before we end this podcast,
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: I did love you, Gary. I did not read your book,
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: but the best line, Gary sent me an excerpt from
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: his book.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I actually did read his book.
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: Wait.
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: Okay, the excerpt was, like I want it under my tombstone.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: He said, I am so sorry. I wish I had
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: kept Kathy and sent Teresa home. I'm going to get
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: the book just to read it. I want to get
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: the book, cut it out, like plastered everywhere in my home.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: We'll go down and get it tattooed on yours.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately, I mentioned to Gary personally, you know, all
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: us Goldens that were on your show, we deserve a
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: copy when you get this published.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we never got one.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: He said, no, you can buy them online.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: We got to get to Gary's book eventually. This felt
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: like the real life version of the movie book club.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: I got to join.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: We need some drinks first.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: We need some drinks and some dancing.