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Grocery Isles · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hey Ben, Hey almost Famous audience. Hi,
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Speaker 1: how's it going. I'm pretty decent? How are you wait,
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Speaker 1: you can't say you're pretty decent? I want an honest answer.
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Speaker 1: What makes it pretty decent? Pretty decent? Yeah? Like, so
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Speaker 1: what's good? What's bad? Um? I had a great week?
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Speaker 1: What would I say? I've had a great week. I
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Speaker 1: had an improved, a vastly improved week this week. So
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Speaker 1: it's very exciting. I was able to go three days
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Speaker 1: without taking zoo fran Um. Yeah, so I got I
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Speaker 1: went to a bachelorette party, the tamous bachelor party of
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Speaker 1: all time. Um. So like I feel, I felt like
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Speaker 1: my most normal. So it's very exciting. That's great. Well,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm really happy to hear that. Thanks, And now
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Speaker 1: you get to go into not normal starting tomorrow. Yes,
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Speaker 1: all right, so little updates just so everybody knows, do
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Speaker 1: you hear any background noise? Um? Tomorrow I do go
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Speaker 1: into surgery at seven a m. Mountain time, So everybody's
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Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers would be great because I want to
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Speaker 1: come back and be healthy and ready to go for
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Speaker 1: the wedding and just for life. But it's just an
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Speaker 1: A c L surgery, so it's not like a big deal. Um.
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Speaker 1: But right now because tomorrow I'm in surgery. Uh. And
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Speaker 1: the bathroom at this house has been getting redone. There's
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Speaker 1: a cleaning crew up kind of like cleaning up all
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Speaker 1: the old stuff. So if you hear any banging, that's
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Speaker 1: what's going on. Oh, we remember when you told us
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Speaker 1: about this bathroom. I don't know if it was on
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Speaker 1: air or not, but apparently if I'm sorry you guys,
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Speaker 1: if you're hearing this again because I don't remember whether
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Speaker 1: or not we said it on air or not. But
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Speaker 1: but Ben had one of those weird houses that have
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Speaker 1: carpeting in the bathroom and supposedly and there was like
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Speaker 1: particles of of former house owners and there was you
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Speaker 1: know what else I did this week I put out
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Speaker 1: the handheld carpet cleaner and I got down like so
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Speaker 1: all the stains I think the past owners of the
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Speaker 1: house have, like animals and stuff. I got down my
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Speaker 1: hands and knees and I did that this weekend. Like what,
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Speaker 1: this house is as clean as can be going into
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Speaker 1: surgery time, which is awesome. But yeah, we had carp
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Speaker 1: in the bathroom, which is super weird. So it's getting redone.
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Speaker 1: There'll be more updates. Jessica's better updating people than I am,
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Speaker 1: so you can like get on her Instagram if you
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Speaker 1: want to see how it looks. I really like it.
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Speaker 1: It's coming together good and we're close. We're so close,
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Speaker 1: but life's good. Ash surgery tomorrow, gonna hang out. People
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Speaker 1: ask me what I'm gonna do during surgery. I plan
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Speaker 1: on sleeping a lot. I plan on, um, watching a
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Speaker 1: lot of football, which I know you and I both
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Speaker 1: love to do. And uh, I plan on reading a
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Speaker 1: couple of books. Um, but I always plan on reading,
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Speaker 1: and that sometimes works out sometimes doesn't. Anyways, Hey, Ashley, Also,
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Speaker 1: I plan on watching some more Paradise. I think it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a good way to pass the time. You
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Speaker 1: do have four hours a week of it, so four
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Speaker 1: actually starting next week. Doesn't it go down to one
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Speaker 1: episode again? I don't. I don't know it would have
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Speaker 1: to because they're I mean, they've done a good job
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Speaker 1: this season. I'm gonna say I like this season. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna talk a lot about it. But there has been
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Speaker 1: moments where like, I don't really need to be watching
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Speaker 1: this like this doesn't feel like it feels like they're
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Speaker 1: stretching out content a little longer than needed. Except for
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Speaker 1: this leekue. This week was amazing in for Ald, Oh
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Speaker 1: my god, then I I just can't believe what good
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Speaker 1: television this leekue was. Jared normally doesn't watch with me.
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Speaker 1: He gets like the weirdest anxiety with parodies, like he
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Speaker 1: puts himself back there again and he starts having like
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Speaker 1: all these thoughts about like, oh my god, I can't
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Speaker 1: believe I did this. I can't believe it did that.
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Speaker 1: So it stresses him out. But man, he watched this
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Speaker 1: entire episode with me because he was compelled, as was I.
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Speaker 1: Oh it is it would go down and I'm always
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Speaker 1: a little bit more dramatic than most. I would say
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Speaker 1: this week's Paradise episode would go down as a top
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Speaker 1: five most enjoyable watching experience for me, at least on Paradise.
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Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, maybe you have the whole general show. Now.
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Speaker 1: I feel bad saying that because it's as at the
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Speaker 1: expense of Natasha and even at the like the the emotions,
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Speaker 1: like I feel bad because whatever is between Kendall and
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Speaker 1: Joe and what has been between Kendall and Joe, like
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Speaker 1: because there's so much emotion. It makes for great TV.
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Speaker 1: Like all these relationships that have formed off camera, when
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Speaker 1: you get tastes of it on camera, that's what makes
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Speaker 1: for the best TV. I would agree with I don't
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Speaker 1: feel bad. I'll say that you don't feel bad because
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Speaker 1: Natasha is so much better off without Brendan. Yeah. I
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Speaker 1: would say, like if if it was like coming like
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Speaker 1: if lives were getting destroyed. Um, Now, I don't know
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Speaker 1: how Brendon's I mean, he'll be fine, right, Like everybody
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Speaker 1: is fine coming out of this, give it a while,
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Speaker 1: like and I think he even said it when he
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Speaker 1: was sitting on the bed. He's like, go, but he's
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Speaker 1: gonna hate me for a couple months and then they're
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Speaker 1: gonna be like all about but anyway, we're gonna get
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Speaker 1: into that. I would say I didn't hate watching it
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Speaker 1: because the kindle Joe situation, um felt like they both
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Speaker 1: needed it. It felt like it was a healthy conversation.
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Speaker 1: I don't know where it goes, but it was. It
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Speaker 1: was intriguing for me to watch, And I don't think
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Speaker 1: either side was feeling a personal pain like hurt, like
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Speaker 1: like no, no, listen, listen, a personal hurt, like they
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Speaker 1: were feeling less than, Like it was like it was
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Speaker 1: a personal jab at them. Their character wasn't being questioned.
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Speaker 1: It was a pain of like, hey, I miss you
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Speaker 1: and I don't know how to deal with this, which
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Speaker 1: is a really healthy conversation to have, especially given their
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Speaker 1: environment and who they are as people. So it was
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Speaker 1: painful to watch because I know there was pain involved
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Speaker 1: in the motion, but there didn't feel like there was pain,
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Speaker 1: Like I think both parties did a good job at
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Speaker 1: not making the other person feel less than and more
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Speaker 1: hurt within that conversation. Okay, that makes sense, it makes sense,
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Speaker 1: but there was still so much pain to that conversation,
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Speaker 1: especially homing from Kendall's angle. But we always talk about Ashley.
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Speaker 1: The things that we don't like watching and the things
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Speaker 1: that hurt are like the bowling where it feels like
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Speaker 1: people are like they're like people on the show are
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Speaker 1: getting like like personally attacked, or the things that you know,
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Speaker 1: we don't love watching people's lives, just like combust on
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Speaker 1: television most of the time, um, because it's like this
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Speaker 1: is gonna suck for you afterwards, like people are going
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Speaker 1: to ask you about this on the street. This, I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like that was kind of what
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Speaker 1: it was with Brendan, Like, holy crap, you are digging
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Speaker 1: yourself further and further and it is so entertaining because
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Speaker 1: you can't stuff. Well, we're gonna dive into that because
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Speaker 1: I have a lot of feelings. I know Ashley definitely
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Speaker 1: has a lot of feelings on that. I know you
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Speaker 1: all listening have a lot of feelings in that. Let's
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Speaker 1: take a break here, actually we come back. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: break down Bachelor headlines for the week, and then we're
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Speaker 1: gonna do a deep dive just you and I because
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Speaker 1: we needed this is such a big episode that we
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Speaker 1: needed the two of us to go back to the
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Speaker 1: old days for a second and break it down right
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Speaker 1: here on Almost Famous. Okay, so let's just start off
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Speaker 1: with the first scene. Kendall comes in, she's looking for Joe,
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Speaker 1: Joseph Serena, and you know, Kendall sits down with Joe
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Speaker 1: on like the first the bet that they first had
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Speaker 1: a conversation with in Paradise. I know that we just
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Speaker 1: said it was about us, but Jared has so much
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Speaker 1: to say that I had to invite him into the conversation.
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Speaker 1: Then do you mind you guys take it away. No,
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Speaker 1: we're not taking it away. It's just that Jared has
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Speaker 1: so much to say about Joe and Kendall's I always
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Speaker 1: love Jared's you do insight, So I would just love
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Speaker 1: to sit back and here Jared go off here for
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Speaker 1: a second. Okay, let me let me lead into it
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Speaker 1: for the two of you though. Um, Kendall walks on
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Speaker 1: the beach, she's looking for Joe. Jared, what are you feeling?
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Speaker 1: What are you thinking? What is your opinion on this situation? Yes,
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Speaker 1: so many feelings because list, they're just both two incredible
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Speaker 1: people that didn't work out in a relationship. That's what's
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Speaker 1: so difficult. Like fast forward to the Brendan Natasha thing.
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Speaker 1: Brendan obviously is in the wrong. He's being a jerk,
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Speaker 1: so it's like easy to not like him right and
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Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm one scene team Natasha. But when
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Speaker 1: you go to Joe and Kendall, they're just two incredible
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Speaker 1: people that just didn't work out because of location and logistics,
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Speaker 1: which sucks. Hey, that's why it makes it so sad.
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Speaker 1: And like you're watching Kendall speak and she has that
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Speaker 1: like quiver in her mouth when she's trying to speak
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Speaker 1: so tight and up and you're like, oh my god,
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Speaker 1: we've all been there before. We're we're just getting emotional
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Speaker 1: and we're trying not to cry in the moment and
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Speaker 1: trying to articulate our thoughts as best as possible while
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Speaker 1: talking to someone that we're obviously still in love with
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Speaker 1: and want to be with, but maybe have been mistakes
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Speaker 1: in the past. And it's just like, oh God, we've
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Speaker 1: all been there, and it's just the worst feeling in
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Speaker 1: the world. And Joe is dating the Southern girl. But
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Speaker 1: you can totally tell that Joe is still kind of
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Speaker 1: into Kendall. He's not fully done with He said he
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Speaker 1: doesn't know whether he's still in love with it or not,
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Speaker 1: which means, yeah, I believe it. He's just like he's
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Speaker 1: he's confused, which makes sense. So I'm interested to see.
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Speaker 1: But so let's take this one step at a time
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Speaker 1: chronological order here, UM, so we don't jump ahead. UM,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna focus on Joe and Kendle here for a second. Jared,
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here for this, UM, because I do
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Speaker 1: think you are probably have strong opinions. I know Ashley
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Speaker 1: does as well. Um, if you don't mind, I want
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Speaker 1: to guide us through breaking this down piece by piece
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Speaker 1: to help understand the situation. What do you think being
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Speaker 1: in paradise before the two of you, it feels like
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Speaker 1: walking down the beach knowing that you care deeply for somebody.
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Speaker 1: For Joe and Kendall, it was a deep love knowing
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Speaker 1: that they're they're not knowing if they're in a relationship
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Speaker 1: or not, and waiting to like, what is that feeling
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Speaker 1: like for them? Well, this is why I wanted Jared
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Speaker 1: to be here for two reasons, because one, we've been
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Speaker 1: in a similar is situation, just in the fact that, like,
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Speaker 1: we build a relationship off screen and then we had
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Speaker 1: to go back on screen and there's just so much
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Speaker 1: people wouldn't be able to understand that happened off screen,
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Speaker 1: right Uh? And then I also wanted Dare to be
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Speaker 1: here because of location, because it seemed like logistically, we'll
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Speaker 1: be honest, Okay, if Ashley told me at the beginning
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Speaker 1: of our relationship that she would never move to Rhode Island,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's gonna be a big factor within whether
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Speaker 1: we pursue a relationship or not. Location is a factor.
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Speaker 1: I know everybody says, oh, you move for the person
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Speaker 1: that you want to be with. Yeah, it's so much
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Speaker 1: easier to say than to actually do, because why don't
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Speaker 1: you be with someone and then moved to a place
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Speaker 1: that you've never been before, where you have no friends
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Speaker 1: and the only person you rely on is that significant other.
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Speaker 1: A lot easier said than done. So I understand where
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Speaker 1: Kendle is coming from. Having said that. While she's walking
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Speaker 1: down the stairs to answer your question, then she totally
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Speaker 1: wanted to throw up in the bush because it's just
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Speaker 1: anxiety written. You're going down there, you know what's going
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Speaker 1: to happen. You know, most likely he's in some sort
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Speaker 1: of relationship with somebody else that it's three weeks in
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Speaker 1: to somebody. Yeah, he's been through two rows ceremonies, so
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Speaker 1: Kendall knew that he was at least talking to someone,
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Speaker 1: and he went to freaking Paradise. So there's a part
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Speaker 1: of Joe that has moved on. She's well aware of this,
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Speaker 1: But Kendall, I don't think would have gone to Paradise
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Speaker 1: if it weren't for Joe being there. I agree, So
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Speaker 1: I think that all in all, Kendall definitely feels like
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Speaker 1: she's in the lower position here because he has like
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Speaker 1: all the positioning, the power, because the upper hand. He
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Speaker 1: has all the upper hand because he's been there for weeks,
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Speaker 1: because he didn't go for her, and and just and
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Speaker 1: then listen, Joe might be still confused, But it appears
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Speaker 1: that Kendall's more invested in Joe than Joe's investing in
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Speaker 1: Kendall right now. And I'm not blaming Joe for that.
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Speaker 1: That's just the way the situation unfolded. Unfortunately, Kendall didn't
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Speaker 1: want to move to Chicago. I wish so badly that
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Speaker 1: Kendall went down to Paradise, very similar to the way
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Speaker 1: Dean went down. Remember when Dean left and then came
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Speaker 1: back for Caitlin, and Dean was like, I am only
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Speaker 1: here for you, Klin. I want to leave in a relationship,
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Speaker 1: because before that, Dean was like, I don't know if
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Speaker 1: I'm ready to be in a committed relationship. He left,
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Speaker 1: he realized, he mr he came back, He's like, I
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Speaker 1: want to try this. I want to pursue this. This
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Speaker 1: is what I'm willing to do. I am willing to
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Speaker 1: commit to you. I wish Kendall went down and said, listen, Joe,
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Speaker 1: I'm not overview. I miss you. This is what I
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Speaker 1: am willing to try Chicago with you if you leave
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Speaker 1: with me right now, I'm willing to try Chicago. So
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Speaker 1: let's pause here for a second. Because Ashley and I
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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago kind of were uh under the
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Speaker 1: understanding that Joe and Kindle might have broke up from
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Speaker 1: more than just logistics. This episode, I am now in
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Speaker 1: the belief that logistics played the biggest part in their breakup. Now, Jared,
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Speaker 1: you just said something that I'm interested in because I
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Speaker 1: am not convinced from watching this episode and knowing the
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes of everything and knowing how difficult this
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Speaker 1: had to be for Kindle that she was going down
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Speaker 1: to get Joe back. I'm not convinced that that conversation
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Speaker 1: she had the hope at the end to say no,
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Speaker 1: Joe and I are going to give this a shot again.
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Speaker 1: I think they both needed closure, or they needed to
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Speaker 1: both openly communicate where they're at. In fact, Kendall holding
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Speaker 1: in her tears, it was hard for me to watch
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Speaker 1: because what I think they needed two people that care
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Speaker 1: deeply about each other, two great people that we both
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Speaker 1: spent We've all spent time with they just needed a
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Speaker 1: good cry, like Kendall just needed a good cry, and say, Joe,
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Speaker 1: I care about you. I don't know what this means.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what this looks like, but I'm here
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Speaker 1: in Paradise to explore not only having this conversation with you,
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Speaker 1: but also what it looks like for me to move on.
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Speaker 1: Well that's kind of That's kind of how Joe interpreted
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Speaker 1: it too, because he said to Serena after the fact,
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Speaker 1: He's like, well, first it seemed like she was here
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Speaker 1: to try to get back with me, and then it
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Speaker 1: seemed like she wanted to have some sort of friendship
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Speaker 1: closure things. So I don't really know what to make
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Speaker 1: That's why I think Kendall made a mistake going to Paradise.
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Speaker 1: Because I love Kendall. We've talked to Kendall. She's the best.
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Speaker 1: I want her to be happy, and seeing her go
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Speaker 1: down there and be so confused about whether she wants
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Speaker 1: to be with Joe or wants to pursue another relationship
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Speaker 1: is one difficult to watch. But secondly, I think the
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Speaker 1: wrong approach going to Paradise. What Joe did was the
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Speaker 1: right way. You go to Paradise and you say I'm
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Speaker 1: here to explore other options. Now was he ready for it?
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Speaker 1: That could be a conversation to be had, but he
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Speaker 1: was there only to pursue other relationships. When Kendall came in,
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Speaker 1: I felt like she was confused about do I I
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Speaker 1: want to go for Joe because I feel like there's
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Speaker 1: still potential in that relationship, but I also open to
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Speaker 1: other relationships. I think that's the worst thing you can
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Speaker 1: do by going to paradis blyying to herself. It's exactly
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Speaker 1: what I did. I was like, Okay, I'm gonna go
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Speaker 1: down there. My main priority is at Jared's not with anyone,
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Speaker 1: and and if he's not that and he still doesn't
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Speaker 1: want to be with me, then maybe I'll be open
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Speaker 1: to being with other people. But in the this part
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Speaker 1: of my heart, I just knew. I was like, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm here to make sure that we eventually end up together.
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Speaker 1: And I don't think that's what she's I don't know
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Speaker 1: what Kendall Stall processes, but listen, if she is going
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Speaker 1: down with open minds for both, I think that's a
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Speaker 1: mistake because there's no way you're going to be ready
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Speaker 1: to move on and date other people if you're still
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Speaker 1: kind of in love with your ex while your ex
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Speaker 1: is living with you in the same splace, Like, that's
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Speaker 1: just not going to work. That's so true. You could
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Speaker 1: like go on dates with other people in real life
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Speaker 1: and then be like, oh I like them, you know,
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But but there's something totally different about
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Speaker 1: the person being right there in front of you with
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Speaker 1: somebody else. Kendall's confused. Do you think that it's a
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Speaker 1: good place for her to be at on the same
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Speaker 1: beach watching her ex boyfriend who she still might be
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Speaker 1: in love with, pursuing a relationship with someone else. But
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Speaker 1: that's my point. So even if she's open to something else,
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Speaker 1: I think she needed to go down with one of
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Speaker 1: two mindsets. Either one, I'm ready to move on from
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Speaker 1: Joe and it's not going to bother me if I
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Speaker 1: see him pursue other relationships because I'm going to pursue
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Speaker 1: other men. Or I go down there for only Joe
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Speaker 1: and I'm either leaving with Joe or I'm I'm leaving
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Speaker 1: by myself. Because this idea of like, well, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: try to balance both and see how it goes. I
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Speaker 1: think is only gonna hurt Kendall, and I don't want
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Speaker 1: Kendall to be hurt. And yet, if there's somebody there,
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Speaker 1: if there's somebody really there that you like, it could happen.
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Speaker 1: I'm just playing Devil's out of agate now because right, right,
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Speaker 1: But like, I also don't think there's anybody there that
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Speaker 1: Kendall is going to hit it off with, and I
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Speaker 1: think that makes it even harder. Yeah, and timing exists
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Speaker 1: here too, where Joe's had the ability to show up
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Speaker 1: to the beach without Kindle there to pursue a relationship.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if Kendall was there on day one, we
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Speaker 1: saw how hard it was for Joe to be on
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Speaker 1: that beach and to see the places that him and
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Speaker 1: Kendle connected at. He was reminiscing and living in it
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Speaker 1: for we. So I mean, we don't know how long
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Speaker 1: two or three days, which is in this world feels
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Speaker 1: like months. And he was able to move on because
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Speaker 1: he met somebody else. Now Kendall doesn't have that option.
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Speaker 1: Joe's Joe's there, and so she's walking into a place
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Speaker 1: where she processes these things and trying to move on.
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Speaker 1: She has to also look across the beach and see
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Speaker 1: Joe sitting on a bed with another girl, and that
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Speaker 1: has to mess with her. It has to play with
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Speaker 1: her head, and it has to set her back. She
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Speaker 1: does not have the advantage here, or as she doesn't
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Speaker 1: have the power here because Joe is able to move
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Speaker 1: on and take a whole day to himself and just
17:32
Speaker 1: be she doesn't have that ability now. The all star
17:38
Speaker 1: in this I really did enjoy their conversation. I will
17:42
Speaker 1: say that it was hard to watch. I feel like
17:43
Speaker 1: there's a lot more there than what we even are
17:45
Speaker 1: able to grasp on television. Um, there were some awkward
17:48
Speaker 1: scenes where like they're pointing out the place they had
17:50
Speaker 1: their first kiss, and and then we see him even
17:53
Speaker 1: the next morning sitting at breakfast together side by side.
17:55
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what that looks like or
17:59
Speaker 1: what that feels like when you're down there, but there
18:01
Speaker 1: are some awkward moments. I thought that was a little
18:03
Speaker 1: bit much where they're like pointing out the places they
18:06
Speaker 1: they had connected. But Joe then, um, I think they
18:09
Speaker 1: both handed well. Joe goes over to Serena, which is
18:12
Speaker 1: obviously really tough position for her to be in, and
18:15
Speaker 1: I thought the way she supported him like made me
18:19
Speaker 1: like her a lot more than I already did. Where
18:21
Speaker 1: she said he said to her, I think there's gonna
18:23
Speaker 1: be a lot of conversations we have to have because
18:26
Speaker 1: there's a lot still to process. But I'm in this
18:29
Speaker 1: for you, and she says, I get it. I understand
18:33
Speaker 1: That's okay, Like we can't just gloss over that, like
18:36
Speaker 1: that's how everybody would respond. That is a very mature,
18:40
Speaker 1: incredible response for her. She's very mature. I also still
18:45
Speaker 1: think that he likes her a lot more than she
18:47
Speaker 1: likes him. I don't know, I just the whole thing
18:51
Speaker 1: is so insane, you know, when we're when we see
18:55
Speaker 1: friends go down there and people that were like really
18:57
Speaker 1: invested in and are people that we know, it's so
19:03
Speaker 1: crazy while watching the show and being like, how is
19:05
Speaker 1: this happening? Because most of the time we watched Paradise
19:07
Speaker 1: now we're so detached from it because it's most people
19:10
Speaker 1: that we don't meet until after the show that like,
19:13
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a show. But like, man, when
19:15
Speaker 1: I see Joe and Kendall involved this, I'm like, how
19:18
Speaker 1: is this happening? How is this girl? Just how how
19:22
Speaker 1: is Joe's new girlfriend Serena, responding like this. If I
19:26
Speaker 1: was her, I'd be like, no, bro, like, either you're
19:30
Speaker 1: over your ex or you're not. So it is very mature, ever,
19:33
Speaker 1: but also like, oh, it's just heart wrenching all around
19:38
Speaker 1: for everyone involved, and it's emotionally exhausting. Do you have
19:43
Speaker 1: a little PTSD you watching it? It's just it's it's
19:47
Speaker 1: I'm so happy we're not back there. Well, I think
19:51
Speaker 1: there's I think the world is happy that neither of
19:53
Speaker 1: you are back there. I think that would America's favorite
19:56
Speaker 1: couple and having a baby on the way, and you're
19:59
Speaker 1: just still happy to impaired eyes. But the this, I mean,
20:03
Speaker 1: it's one of those moments where we say it on
20:05
Speaker 1: the most almost famous podcast where real life intersects with
20:10
Speaker 1: the show. Um So, the question that I have for
20:13
Speaker 1: both of you, do you believe now, without any teasers,
20:17
Speaker 1: without any spoilers, without any knowledge, And if you have it,
20:20
Speaker 1: then I don't want to hear because I don't know.
20:22
Speaker 1: Do you believe that Kinda will be able to move
20:24
Speaker 1: on to at least pursue another relationship while in Paradise
20:29
Speaker 1: this season? I don't think anybody's going to pique her
20:34
Speaker 1: interest especially when she has the direct comparison of Joe there. Yeah,
20:38
Speaker 1: no way, I don't think so. I mean, it would
20:41
Speaker 1: have to be Leo from Titanic would have to walk
20:44
Speaker 1: down the stairs for Kendall to be like, never mind, Joe,
20:46
Speaker 1: I'm moving on. It's a funny reference. Leo is the
20:49
Speaker 1: guy that stepped in the middle of Joe and kinda
20:51
Speaker 1: last time. Yeah, oh my god, I totally forgot about that.
20:57
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I don't think so. I think
21:00
Speaker 1: that she's I think Kendall's fooling herself if she thinks
21:03
Speaker 1: she's going to try to date other people in Paradisse.
21:05
Speaker 1: Judging from the conversation she had with Joe especially, she
21:08
Speaker 1: was the one who brought up when they were You
21:10
Speaker 1: referenced them talking on the bed and Joe was saying,
21:13
Speaker 1: this is like, you know, it's weird because this is
21:15
Speaker 1: where we have first conversation, and Kendall's like, that's where
21:18
Speaker 1: our first crying. And I don't blame her one bit.
21:23
Speaker 1: She felt hope in that moment you could be like
21:25
Speaker 1: that she was going to bring back all these memories
21:28
Speaker 1: and before we leave a Joe and Kendall conversation, I
21:30
Speaker 1: do want to say that I appreciate like them kind
21:33
Speaker 1: of telling us the timeline because they because I remember
21:38
Speaker 1: watching and being like, I think Kendall might be off here,
21:41
Speaker 1: because I remember when during COVID when he flew to
21:46
Speaker 1: l A and we were like, oh girls, she sure
21:48
Speaker 1: Joe flying to la to see Kendall during the midst
21:50
Speaker 1: of all this very interesting, and that's when he reveals
21:54
Speaker 1: that he said, like, you moved to Chicago for a
21:57
Speaker 1: little while and give this a chance, So like he
22:00
Speaker 1: really did kind of exhaust all offers and it really options,
22:04
Speaker 1: thank you, and it really was at the end of
22:09
Speaker 1: the day her decision to break things off because she
22:12
Speaker 1: just couldn't move, and I what we didn't hear from
22:15
Speaker 1: her was like I regret that, or I would give
22:18
Speaker 1: it a chance now. And also what we didn't hear
22:20
Speaker 1: about it was her twin sister, because she actually said before,
22:23
Speaker 1: so Kendall has a twin and she's spoken before about
22:25
Speaker 1: how she feels her twin sister is okay, like her
22:28
Speaker 1: soul mate, and like, I mean, you can kind of
22:32
Speaker 1: understand that. I can totally understand it. The Lauren and
22:35
Speaker 1: I talked about this last week when it became like
22:37
Speaker 1: a storyline, and we just I don't know we're even
22:42
Speaker 1: though I do think that we are as close as
22:44
Speaker 1: Kendall and her sister. We're okay, We're okay with being
22:47
Speaker 1: in separate spots. But some people have different relationships, Like
22:50
Speaker 1: you and Lauren talk on FaceTime three times a day
22:53
Speaker 1: and you're fine with that, Like some people really need
22:55
Speaker 1: that's like you need that. I can do the phone
22:57
Speaker 1: call thing, and you need to be in the press
23:00
Speaker 1: into but you won't talk as much, which is so
23:02
Speaker 1: funny because when Jared and I are with our family,
23:05
Speaker 1: I'm all about, like you're connecting through talking, So I'm
23:08
Speaker 1: like constantly talking to my sister, But Jared connects just
23:11
Speaker 1: by being in the same room and he's maybe not
23:13
Speaker 1: necessarily a social Conneah. Well, hey, to move on from
23:18
Speaker 1: this because it's gonna be interesting to watch um and
23:20
Speaker 1: there's not a lot else we can say my hot
23:23
Speaker 1: take from the question I asked previously, and you can
23:26
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong. I think it's gonna be
23:29
Speaker 1: hard for kindle move on and find somebody, because I
23:32
Speaker 1: don't know right now if we're seeing anybody better than
23:35
Speaker 1: Joe on that beach. Maybe Ivan but we don't get
23:38
Speaker 1: to see a lot of Ivan right now. We don't
23:40
Speaker 1: get to like hear a lot from him. We don't
23:42
Speaker 1: see any connection romantically with him, So like that's a
23:45
Speaker 1: little bit of a mystery still. But everybody else is
23:49
Speaker 1: either in relationship or they have drama that's pulled them
23:53
Speaker 1: kind of out of relationships, and they're kind of either
23:57
Speaker 1: like forgotten about or moved on from. Like kindall doesn't
23:59
Speaker 1: exactly have anybody that's going to live up to Joe because,
24:02
Speaker 1: as we know, and as most Bachelor Nation knows at
24:05
Speaker 1: this point, Joe is an incredibly charismatic, good looking, smart
24:09
Speaker 1: wise dude who cares deeply. It's gonna be hard for
24:12
Speaker 1: her because any comparison to Joe on that beach right
24:15
Speaker 1: now is gonna fall short. I think I even has
24:18
Speaker 1: a chance. I really do, but we've yet to see it.
24:22
Speaker 1: And that's where I get. You know, Joe is a catch.
24:25
Speaker 1: She knows, and she's in love with him. I will say,
24:27
Speaker 1: when Kendall walked down those stairs, both Ash and I
24:29
Speaker 1: looked at each other and was like, she looks, she looks,
24:33
Speaker 1: she fired. And I can say that because my wife
24:36
Speaker 1: is next to me and we can have a girl crush,
24:37
Speaker 1: but she looks that like I think that Joe is
24:39
Speaker 1: the cutest guy on the beach a boat, Yeah, probably
24:43
Speaker 1: if you know that. I also think that Jared thinks
24:47
Speaker 1: that Kendall's the pretties were on the beach. I think
24:49
Speaker 1: that's his most type. And it also helps that she
24:52
Speaker 1: hasn't been living on a beach for the last three
24:54
Speaker 1: weeks before that walk down. She comes, Yeah, she comes
24:58
Speaker 1: straight straight down from the hote Jared straight. We're gonna
25:02
Speaker 1: take a break here when we come back. I don't
25:04
Speaker 1: know if Jared's ticking around or not to talk about
25:07
Speaker 1: you can be free, Okay, Jared's out of here. Jared
25:12
Speaker 1: enjoy talking about Brendan and Natasha, Saga and Piper because wow, wow,
25:17
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I mean, what are we doing here?
25:21
Speaker 1: Not seen? Has this guy not seen one previous season
25:25
Speaker 1: of bachel in Paradise like you have? There's pretty much
25:27
Speaker 1: one rule. There's one rule, just don't don't come in
25:32
Speaker 1: with like a previous relationship and and and lie about it.
25:36
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this guy. Anyway, you guys take a
25:38
Speaker 1: break by bye. So then there's another love triangle. Guys. Actually,
25:52
Speaker 1: this whole theme of this episode is love Triangle. I
25:56
Speaker 1: like love triangles there they are fun to Okay, this
26:00
Speaker 1: one's between Mari and Kenny and Demi and like not
26:04
Speaker 1: so much Tea. There's not really a square here. I
26:06
Speaker 1: guess they really left that date being like, yeah, I
26:09
Speaker 1: don't think there's a big romance brew in between us.
26:13
Speaker 1: But basically Demi is so funny because like she really
26:18
Speaker 1: likes Kenny, but like, I don't know why she's so
26:20
Speaker 1: invested in Kenny. Do you get it? Like I'm like, Demi,
26:24
Speaker 1: is this just like a physical thing for you? Like
26:26
Speaker 1: there's no way that you're this emotionally invested in hurt
26:30
Speaker 1: by this guy. I just feel like she's just like
26:32
Speaker 1: a tough I just feel like she's so tough and like,
26:35
Speaker 1: oh he doesn't like me, then I'm not gonna like him,
26:37
Speaker 1: and like I can find gold in the real world
26:40
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. But she's just like really down
26:43
Speaker 1: and out. Well, I think there's a few things, and
26:46
Speaker 1: I think Demi is well, I don't know. I think
26:50
Speaker 1: Demi is tough, But I also think we've seen in
26:53
Speaker 1: from all different parts, from like her being out of
26:57
Speaker 1: Paradise and off of The Bachelor, that she is sensitive
27:01
Speaker 1: and that she has a deep emotional side, and so
27:03
Speaker 1: I think she gets hurt. And I think that her
27:05
Speaker 1: confidence is strong, but she's also like all of us.
27:08
Speaker 1: She has her insecurities and her places that can be
27:10
Speaker 1: hit and that really like throw her off. And that's
27:14
Speaker 1: not just her, that's all of us. And I think
27:16
Speaker 1: right now what we're and I don't know, but right now,
27:19
Speaker 1: if I were to say, what I'm watching with Demmy
27:21
Speaker 1: is she's not used right used to right now getting
27:24
Speaker 1: turned down. That's what I was gonna say. Yeah, And
27:27
Speaker 1: I think that it's hard for her to process, especially
27:30
Speaker 1: in Paradise, where I wonder if she's like, you know,
27:34
Speaker 1: Kenny's batting out of his league with me, Like I'm
27:37
Speaker 1: Demmi and this is Kenny, and Kenny's fine, but like
27:41
Speaker 1: he's batting out of his league and he doesn't understand it.
27:44
Speaker 1: Um And yet Kenny's going, yeah, but I have a
27:47
Speaker 1: bunch of other people here paying attention to me that
27:48
Speaker 1: I like, and then I'm then narrested in and so
27:50
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not bat on my league. Maybe I'm just
27:52
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm doing all right here. And so Demmi's
27:56
Speaker 1: in this, like the competition side of Demi's coming out,
28:00
Speaker 1: and we're seeing some frustrations with it. Yes, yes, Uh,
28:04
Speaker 1: let's just say Kenny totally is into Demi not interested
28:09
Speaker 1: in anybody else? Would Demi be as into Kenny? Or
28:13
Speaker 1: is this like a hard to get thing and a
28:15
Speaker 1: I'm feeling rejected thing? Yeah? So I have friends like this,
28:19
Speaker 1: So I am not a I'm not somebody that likes
28:23
Speaker 1: to be be Like, if somebody's playing hard to get,
28:26
Speaker 1: I'm not into it, Like I I don't like it.
28:28
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel good to me. Yeah. So it's just different,
28:33
Speaker 1: Like people are different there where I would say, okay,
28:36
Speaker 1: if you're not into me, I'm gonna say that's okay
28:38
Speaker 1: and I'm moving on, like and I'm gonna shut it
28:40
Speaker 1: off and move on because I think that's a defense
28:43
Speaker 1: mechanism for me to not be embarrassed honestly, or to
28:47
Speaker 1: not feel like I wasn't chosen. Um, So I think
28:50
Speaker 1: there's two ways to look at I think and then
28:51
Speaker 1: some have the confidence to say, hey, you're playing hard
28:53
Speaker 1: to get, I'm gonna go harder at you. I'm gonna
28:55
Speaker 1: find a way to still in turn into this, and
28:57
Speaker 1: at the end of it, hopefully we can usually decide
29:00
Speaker 1: this is a good thing. Uh. I do though with Demmi,
29:05
Speaker 1: from what I'm seeing is like this hard to get
29:07
Speaker 1: thing is like appealing to her. It's about winning. Right now,
29:11
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, because if he was just like Dimmi,
29:13
Speaker 1: I'm all about it. They might be fine. They might
29:17
Speaker 1: have like a fun relationship. We might like to watch
29:19
Speaker 1: him together because they they're like cute and like they
29:22
Speaker 1: would make each other laugh. But I don't know how
29:25
Speaker 1: long it lasts, and I also don't know how much
29:28
Speaker 1: big of a foundation it builds. And It's what's weird
29:33
Speaker 1: here is ever since episode one, Kenny's interest in March
29:38
Speaker 1: like he went to the beach for her, you know,
29:41
Speaker 1: like he's been into this way before. And so I
29:43
Speaker 1: wonder if it's like that girl crushed thing too, where
29:45
Speaker 1: he's like the girl that I've dreamed of, the girl
29:48
Speaker 1: that I came here for, the girl that I've like
29:49
Speaker 1: the celebrity crush. Now I've got her and now she's
29:53
Speaker 1: fighting for me, and so like, yes, Demmi is awesome,
29:56
Speaker 1: but I'm still focused on the one that I came
29:58
Speaker 1: here for. So Mari says that the reason that she
30:04
Speaker 1: kind of said, let's go on dates with other people.
30:09
Speaker 1: Was because she felt so much that she ended up
30:12
Speaker 1: getting scared and was trying to like kind of back
30:14
Speaker 1: out of it, which again I'm not really that kind
30:18
Speaker 1: of person who it's like, Oh, I have what I want,
30:20
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm too scared. I'm gonna give it away now.
30:23
Speaker 1: But I know that so many people aren't like that.
30:25
Speaker 1: Did you buy that as a reason. Yeah, I mean,
30:31
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, and I hate I don't want
30:33
Speaker 1: to use this excuse, but she is younger. Um, she
30:38
Speaker 1: is coming off into paradise, and you could tell me
30:42
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, but I think a lot of people
30:43
Speaker 1: go into paradise hoping to find relationship. They're also just
30:45
Speaker 1: hoping to have a good time and to like have
30:48
Speaker 1: a hot boy and girl summer and like show off
30:50
Speaker 1: what they've been working on. And so she gets there
30:53
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, this dude is into her.
30:55
Speaker 1: She's into him, She's feeling something towards him. Now you know,
30:59
Speaker 1: she's a little jael List and she's fighting for him.
31:02
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden she has to admit
31:03
Speaker 1: to herself, like I don't want to just give this
31:05
Speaker 1: up like this isn't funny games from anymore, So I
31:08
Speaker 1: I do buy it. I think I think she's trying
31:11
Speaker 1: to communicate her emotions. I don't know if it's the full,
31:15
Speaker 1: you know, plethora of things that she's feeling. I do
31:18
Speaker 1: think she's scared that she could leave this thing in
31:20
Speaker 1: a serious relationship, and I think that would really throw
31:23
Speaker 1: off the plans. Like I think there's like, you know,
31:25
Speaker 1: a lot that happens after Paradise of people are excited
31:28
Speaker 1: for she leaves with Kenny, well, then you know, she's
31:34
Speaker 1: what is it all for? I don't know if she
31:35
Speaker 1: would feel like it was it was a big win
31:37
Speaker 1: for her. I get that, um that kind of rolls
31:41
Speaker 1: us over into the whole Natasha Brendan Piper drama because
31:46
Speaker 1: this is gonna be it. Certainly went in with plans
31:51
Speaker 1: and figured that they would come out with certain they
31:56
Speaker 1: had expectations of how they would come out of Paradise self,
32:00
Speaker 1: admittedly with more followers. The most astonishing thing I heard
32:07
Speaker 1: on the show in the longest time was, did you
32:10
Speaker 1: see the US Weekly article? I gained ten thousand followers
32:14
Speaker 1: from it. That was when all things stopped and you
32:19
Speaker 1: couldn't defend them anymore, like even if you were trying
32:22
Speaker 1: to defend them. No. Yeah, that whole conversation on the couch,
32:29
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it made me cringe. So let's start
32:33
Speaker 1: at the beginning. But laugh hilariously. No, I don't know.
32:37
Speaker 1: Actually we were okay, jaw dropped, all right, Maybe not laughing,
32:43
Speaker 1: but just eyes bugging out. Jaw dropped. Yeah. I wonder what.
32:48
Speaker 1: I wonder what it is, and I want to I
32:50
Speaker 1: do want to go back and start the beginning here
32:51
Speaker 1: so that we can break down all the scenes that
32:54
Speaker 1: I wonder what it is with me where I watched that,
32:57
Speaker 1: and I get really frustrated with the two of them,
33:00
Speaker 1: because one, I feel like they're messing with other people's emotions.
33:07
Speaker 1: I think they're extremely selfish in the strategy that they've
33:14
Speaker 1: put in place to try to get more followers for
33:18
Speaker 1: I don't know what reason. Is it money, is it fame,
33:20
Speaker 1: is it attention? It frustrates me, and then it saddens
33:23
Speaker 1: me because I know what it's like to have followers
33:28
Speaker 1: and it's not fulfilling and it doesn't satisfy. And so
33:31
Speaker 1: the pursuit of that, and and as you move forward
33:35
Speaker 1: to try to get that, and you hurt others in
33:36
Speaker 1: the process. It feels really ugly to me, Like it
33:41
Speaker 1: feels really hard for me to watch, and I get
33:43
Speaker 1: really frustrated. I understand that, and that's just me. It's
33:47
Speaker 1: hard for me to enjoy um. And also like you know,
33:51
Speaker 1: you and I both know, and we say it like
33:52
Speaker 1: we know people whose lives have been positively affected by
33:54
Speaker 1: the show and very negatively affected by the show. Uh.
33:58
Speaker 1: And this is also one of those cases where when
34:00
Speaker 1: you go out with these intentions, it's probably gonna negatively
34:03
Speaker 1: affect your life by going on the show. And that
34:05
Speaker 1: sucks to watch because I don't want people's lives to
34:08
Speaker 1: be worse for going on, even though I know what happens,
34:11
Speaker 1: and so it's hard for me to see anyways, Okay,
34:14
Speaker 1: let's start. Let's start at the beginning, and then we're
34:16
Speaker 1: gonna get to that and we can we can break
34:17
Speaker 1: that down a little more. Natasha is very clear with
34:21
Speaker 1: Brendan about where she's at, and she's now feeling more
34:26
Speaker 1: positive about their relationship than ever. Brendan is validating those feelings,
34:32
Speaker 1: um and in a fairly strong way. So I'm convinced
34:36
Speaker 1: at this point, Oh, he isn't Natasha not surprising. Natasha
34:40
Speaker 1: is great. We love Natasha and we and we've been
34:45
Speaker 1: rooting for her this whole time as she's pursued Brendan.
34:49
Speaker 1: So Ashley take it from there. Well, then we see
34:55
Speaker 1: them having a good moment. Of course, when Piper walks
34:57
Speaker 1: in doesn't even ask any of the other guys to
35:01
Speaker 1: sit down and chat like she makes it very obvious
35:04
Speaker 1: even walking down the stairs, she goes, Hey, I'm Piper,
35:06
Speaker 1: and I'm here for Brendan, And then she asked Brendan,
35:10
Speaker 1: he doesn't really have any hesitation, he says, yes, it's
35:14
Speaker 1: everything that Natasha was kind of warned about but but
35:20
Speaker 1: didn't believe because honestly, it would be hard to believe
35:24
Speaker 1: that somebody would ever go down there with such a
35:27
Speaker 1: set relationship, like like to the point where Piper was
35:31
Speaker 1: kind of hurt to hear on the date that that
35:35
Speaker 1: Brendan didn't consider her a girlfriend. Yeah, and obviously I
35:39
Speaker 1: don't know where his heads at. He's been on the podcast.
35:42
Speaker 1: We enjoyed our conversation with him. I hope he comes
35:44
Speaker 1: back on And this is obviously gonna sound like I mean,
35:47
Speaker 1: I think most of the people are going to pick
35:49
Speaker 1: Natasha's side here because it's pretty clear. But we'll try
35:52
Speaker 1: to do this with understanding his intentions the best we can.
35:56
Speaker 1: But the one thing that's clear is we he's on
35:59
Speaker 1: not like television, things are being recorded in film. He lied,
36:03
Speaker 1: He did lied to Natasha so many times, multiple times.
36:06
Speaker 1: He lied to Natasha. So that is just the truth
36:09
Speaker 1: that if he was on here, I would ask him
36:11
Speaker 1: that same question. I said, why why would you lie
36:13
Speaker 1: to her? So he lied in Natasha. Then Piper comes down.
36:16
Speaker 1: They have this conversation there obviously together, they've dated, she's
36:19
Speaker 1: flown to Boston. They spent the day together before he
36:21
Speaker 1: left ten times, as we later find out, which is
36:26
Speaker 1: so much different than the two times that he told Natasha. Uh.
36:31
Speaker 1: And then just like on the date we you can
36:35
Speaker 1: see that she was like, he was like, you know,
36:38
Speaker 1: it's really hard for me to like kind of say
36:43
Speaker 1: that I didn't I was trying to wait for you
36:46
Speaker 1: and not trying to play with anybody because that would
36:49
Speaker 1: be a bad look. But even though it's a bad look,
36:52
Speaker 1: I'm kind of admitting right now that that is exactly
36:54
Speaker 1: what I did. Like they admitted on that date that
36:58
Speaker 1: he had that there was a strategy that he was like,
37:02
Speaker 1: I'm not going to allow myself to get close to
37:04
Speaker 1: another girl enough that it would be wrong. And so
37:08
Speaker 1: at this point we don't know what their intentions are
37:10
Speaker 1: in this, mostly because I guess personally, I'm just confused
37:13
Speaker 1: when I'm watching this scene on like why did they
37:15
Speaker 1: come to Paradise? What were they hoping for? Well we
37:19
Speaker 1: find out, um, really, we start getting the hints that
37:22
Speaker 1: they came for the following and um, the fame, And
37:27
Speaker 1: I'm still not fully sold out on that yet until
37:29
Speaker 1: we seem my couch. But I'm not so fully sold
37:31
Speaker 1: out on that yet because I'm like, there's a lot
37:32
Speaker 1: of other reasons why you go to Paradise. Maybe he
37:34
Speaker 1: wasn't convinced the Piper is the right person for him,
37:36
Speaker 1: Maybe Piper wasn't fully convinced. Maybe they just want to
37:39
Speaker 1: go explore their options and see if Paradise lad them
37:42
Speaker 1: to be a stronger couple than before, Like all those
37:44
Speaker 1: things I could get behind. Well, that's very nice of you,
37:47
Speaker 1: Like you're definitely looking at at the uh maybe a
37:51
Speaker 1: little naively, but you know you're giving them shots. Well yeah,
37:55
Speaker 1: mostly because like I would, I cannot believe that two
37:58
Speaker 1: people would come down own to paradise. He would pursue
38:03
Speaker 1: a relationship just to stick around, not just in a
38:07
Speaker 1: relationship with somebody that obviously like, we're more fired up
38:10
Speaker 1: than most, because Natasha is somebody that we like so
38:13
Speaker 1: much that we're like this, this is and she was
38:15
Speaker 1: leaving her emotions on her sleeve. He'd pursue this relationship
38:19
Speaker 1: and then turn On has had all four followers and
38:22
Speaker 1: all four fame. Well, that gets us to the next point,
38:24
Speaker 1: which is where we see them on the couch having
38:27
Speaker 1: a conversation that we we brought up just a few
38:29
Speaker 1: minutes ago, and it's very clear now to me. Again,
38:34
Speaker 1: another I think statement that I would make about this situation,
38:37
Speaker 1: just like I said that Brendan did lie to Natasha,
38:40
Speaker 1: is they definitely came here for the followers. That's all
38:43
Speaker 1: they're talking about. It's all they're joking about. It's all
38:45
Speaker 1: they're bringing up to each other. Can you believe that
38:49
Speaker 1: they are saying this miked up? What are they thinking?
38:53
Speaker 1: I know there's that time where he holds the mic
38:55
Speaker 1: and then it's like I'm incriminating myself too much. It's
38:57
Speaker 1: like I'm so far gone right now. But I'm like,
39:00
Speaker 1: are you guys that dense right now to think that
39:03
Speaker 1: this is not being filmed? Yeah, well the truth is there.
39:08
Speaker 1: They will get more followers because of this. I mean,
39:11
Speaker 1: that's the That's the other thing that's frustrating is you know,
39:13
Speaker 1: you watch this and you're like, yeah, you're going you're
39:15
Speaker 1: going to like it happens. I was gonna unfollow him. Yeah, well,
39:19
Speaker 1: just listening to that conversation, I was like, I'm going
39:22
Speaker 1: to follow you because of this now. But you know
39:25
Speaker 1: that's going to happen, right Like we know that's going
39:27
Speaker 1: to be the case, is that they're talked about a lot.
39:30
Speaker 1: They're gonna be in a bunch of headlines. This is
39:32
Speaker 1: gonna work for them, um and and so. But when
39:35
Speaker 1: when it works for them, we still can't dismiss the
39:38
Speaker 1: fact of how much is probably hurts the other people involved.
39:42
Speaker 1: Uh and and it's also probably hard on the people
39:44
Speaker 1: watching it. I would imagine when you're down there, going
39:47
Speaker 1: this is sad like this is. It's it's hard for Natasha,
39:51
Speaker 1: but it's really sad for the rest of the people there,
39:53
Speaker 1: because I wonder how many of their relationships aren't get
39:56
Speaker 1: put in a question on intentions at this point. So
39:58
Speaker 1: it feels like to this point on Pair Dice, there's
40:00
Speaker 1: some really good relationships there that maybe don't care about
40:03
Speaker 1: the fame at all, knowing that it's still gonna come,
40:07
Speaker 1: but they don't they're not there for that. Yeah, that's
40:10
Speaker 1: so true. When when Piper and Natasha sit down together,
40:15
Speaker 1: that's when you know a lot of lies come out.
40:18
Speaker 1: They talked about the fact that they were together the
40:21
Speaker 1: weekend that he left for Paradise. Then there was the
40:25
Speaker 1: whole like we hung out ten times thing, and meanwhile
40:30
Speaker 1: he's definitely seeming like he's talking to a producer in
40:32
Speaker 1: the way that it looks to me. He says, it's
40:36
Speaker 1: not as if I ruined her chances with anyone else,
40:39
Speaker 1: Like there wasn't anybody else showing interest in her, And
40:42
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh. Yeah. He he made
40:49
Speaker 1: some comments like from the Brandon that we had on
40:51
Speaker 1: the podcast and the Brandon that like I still think
40:54
Speaker 1: if I mean, I want to ask him all of this.
40:56
Speaker 1: I don't know if we ever got the opportunity. He
40:58
Speaker 1: made some comments that were like really hurtful, um and
41:01
Speaker 1: just untrue, like Natasha is a catch uh and and
41:04
Speaker 1: it sounds like we're just like her biggest fan team here,
41:07
Speaker 1: but we are um. But like somebody would have been
41:10
Speaker 1: interested in here, somebody would have been intrigued by her,
41:13
Speaker 1: Like that's crazy to think that nobody would so rude
41:16
Speaker 1: and so crazy and inaccurate. And then he also says
41:20
Speaker 1: when he sits down with her, he says, this was
41:23
Speaker 1: a friendship, not a romantic relationship. And then he says
41:28
Speaker 1: that Natasha had selective hearing. Yeah, so what do you
41:33
Speaker 1: call it? When like that was That was the moment
41:37
Speaker 1: where I got the most fired up is the conversation
41:40
Speaker 1: between Natasha and Brendan, where honestly I could have respected
41:46
Speaker 1: it if he would have said to her, Natasha, I
41:49
Speaker 1: did come down here for Piper, and I'm sorry that
41:52
Speaker 1: like you got mixed up in this because that isn't
41:55
Speaker 1: fair to you. But yes, the intention was for me
41:58
Speaker 1: to be with Piper, and like, now that she's here,
42:02
Speaker 1: I'm going to spend time with her instead, he tried
42:04
Speaker 1: to make Natasha feel crazy. Well that's definition gas lighting.
42:08
Speaker 1: Yeah he was, And I was like, he is a dick.
42:13
Speaker 1: He this is this is a dick behavior and and
42:17
Speaker 1: like he never held up he never backed up on that,
42:19
Speaker 1: Like even when she was like, Brennan, here's the things
42:21
Speaker 1: that you told me, here's the facts of like what
42:23
Speaker 1: you said to me, He's like, I don't remember saying that,
42:26
Speaker 1: or you have selective hearing, or there's nobody else here
42:29
Speaker 1: for there had been nobody else here for you, Like
42:31
Speaker 1: it was a consistent reminder to Natasha, and like and
42:35
Speaker 1: like he knows darn well again, give him the benefit
42:39
Speaker 1: of the doubt. Maybe during that conversation even he uh,
42:42
Speaker 1: he didn't remember it. Maybe his intentions were like discombobulated, whatever.
42:47
Speaker 1: But then he proves on the couch with Piper that
42:51
Speaker 1: like he was annoyed by Natasha, that he was dragging
42:53
Speaker 1: her around, that he knew exactly what he was doing
42:56
Speaker 1: by her. Yeah, and then he even says to her face,
43:00
Speaker 1: it's like I didn't prevent you from establishing any other connections.
43:03
Speaker 1: He's like, who would you would have who would have
43:05
Speaker 1: you have been with? That was heavy. I'm interested to
43:08
Speaker 1: hear how our listeners are gonna spond, because obviously, like
43:10
Speaker 1: you and I were both fired up about it, and
43:12
Speaker 1: like it was hard to watch. There was a lot
43:13
Speaker 1: going on there that just felt unhealthy. Um. And they
43:17
Speaker 1: always teach us a thing or two, especially with their comments.
43:19
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll see something we don't. UM. I just wanted
43:22
Speaker 1: to see Brendan um again if he felt like he
43:25
Speaker 1: got mixed up in something and it got too big
43:27
Speaker 1: for him to handle and he had to like apologize
43:30
Speaker 1: and say, Natasha, I'm sorry. UM, you know I do
43:34
Speaker 1: want to spend time with Piper. We did have something before. UM.
43:38
Speaker 1: This is where I'm going to go with this. It
43:40
Speaker 1: would have been an understanding. But at this point now
43:42
Speaker 1: Natasha just feels crazy. She's confused, but like, no, but
43:46
Speaker 1: she's better than that, Like she knows that she doesn't
43:48
Speaker 1: feel crazy, you know what I mean. Like Natasha is
43:50
Speaker 1: like a strong enough woman who believes in herself enough.
43:53
Speaker 1: I think that she's like not emotion I don't think
43:55
Speaker 1: she's affected in that way. I don't think she's like
43:58
Speaker 1: thinking less of herself. I think she's like, no, he's
44:00
Speaker 1: a dick, and I'm I'm lucky I got rid of him.
44:02
Speaker 1: That's fair, I hope. So I hope that's where this
44:04
Speaker 1: is going. Uh be interesting the interesting to watch Ashley
44:09
Speaker 1: as we moved forward. It was not a good moment
44:11
Speaker 1: for me to watch. I didn't enjoy that part. It
44:14
Speaker 1: was it was entertaining in a lot of ways, but
44:16
Speaker 1: it was also unlike the Joe and Kendall situation, the
44:20
Speaker 1: Natasha Piper Brennan situation UM was heavy, like heavier, and
44:25
Speaker 1: it was hard for me for all of them, uh involved,
44:29
Speaker 1: because I felt like there was a lot of deception,
44:32
Speaker 1: a lot of confusion um and and it's just it
44:36
Speaker 1: was too hard for me to see Natasha um leave
44:39
Speaker 1: those conversations feeling or hearing the things that she had
44:43
Speaker 1: to hear and watching the things that she had to watch,
44:45
Speaker 1: and then the couch honestly, for me just kind of
44:48
Speaker 1: summarized everything was like, you know what, I'm okay coming
44:49
Speaker 1: to the podcast and saying I'm not okay with this,
44:51
Speaker 1: like I'm I feel really good now, saying like this
44:54
Speaker 1: was a messed up situation and one person got really
44:57
Speaker 1: hurt in it. Yeah, these are one of these. It's
45:01
Speaker 1: one of those moments that you're like, man, as much
45:03
Speaker 1: as I love Michelle as Bachelor, at these moments in
45:07
Speaker 1: Paradise that you're like, oh, could we just wait a
45:10
Speaker 1: little longer to pick the next lead because Natasha would
45:13
Speaker 1: have been amazing well, from the way things are going
45:15
Speaker 1: right now, she might she might be there. She could
45:18
Speaker 1: be a next season after Michelle and after whoever the
45:21
Speaker 1: bachelor is, Hey, Ashley, I think that's enough on the
45:24
Speaker 1: breakdown of this episode things are looking forward to on
45:27
Speaker 1: the upcoming episode tomorrow night. Yeah, Okay, so I didn't
45:32
Speaker 1: get and say this because my version doesn't have this. No,
45:35
Speaker 1: I just asked it off the top of my head.
45:37
Speaker 1: What what is their unfortunate Well, what I want to
45:40
Speaker 1: see more of is one of Becca to Tilla, and
45:45
Speaker 1: three the Joe and Kendall conversation continue. I feel like
45:50
Speaker 1: I was expecting more Joe and Kendall towards the end
45:52
Speaker 1: of this episode for it to come back up again.
45:54
Speaker 1: But I'm assuming that's because tonight's episode, Tuesday or you know,
45:58
Speaker 1: whatever day it is supposed to be. Um Is is
46:02
Speaker 1: gonna lead with it, I think. And then with Becca
46:06
Speaker 1: her being you know, a former bachelort, I just think
46:08
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy that we haven't even seen her
46:10
Speaker 1: go on a date yet established anything romantic. Yeah, with
46:13
Speaker 1: the week coming to a close here pretty soon, right,
46:17
Speaker 1: Also weird thinking about this episode that I don't even
46:19
Speaker 1: we didn't have a host there's no sign of a
46:21
Speaker 1: host the whole episode. And what's also interesting about that is,
46:27
Speaker 1: I feel like you didn't really need one. I don't
46:30
Speaker 1: really think you need one for paradise. Interesting. Well, hey,
46:33
Speaker 1: let's take a break here, we come back. We're gonna
46:36
Speaker 1: breeze through. Bachelor headlines are this week. Uh, and then
46:39
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break until we come out tomorrow
46:43
Speaker 1: to break down another pisode of the Almost FAI podcast.
46:45
Speaker 1: But until then, we'll be back with bachelor headlines. It's
46:58
Speaker 1: time for Bachelor headlines with our host an expert, Ashley
47:03
Speaker 1: I Kennettie. Well, first headline is this Michelle Young, the
47:06
Speaker 1: next Bachelorette, stunts in new Bachelorette promo for upcoming season eighteen.
47:12
Speaker 1: The quote is I'm ready. Oh, well, she looks ready,
47:17
Speaker 1: she looks sexy, she looks dominant like a leading lady should. Uh,
47:24
Speaker 1: and she says, she says, I'm looking for someone who's
47:27
Speaker 1: going to change the world with me. I'm ready. And then, uh,
47:32
Speaker 1: she's in this gorgeous dress. You know, it's very glamy.
47:35
Speaker 1: It's very like classic glam, old school Hollywood, which kind
47:40
Speaker 1: of brings us to our next headline. Yeah, yeah, I
47:44
Speaker 1: did read it. Uh. Katie Thurston reacts to Michelle Young's
47:49
Speaker 1: glam Bachelorette promo. The quote is I wore a rubber
47:53
Speaker 1: purple skirt backwards. This is a quain to us. Yes,
47:59
Speaker 1: that's funny. She said that the skirt, which everybody made
48:04
Speaker 1: fun of in the promo because it just wasn't the
48:06
Speaker 1: best look, was a shout out to her vibrator. I
48:10
Speaker 1: didn't realize that. Never put two two together, but it
48:13
Speaker 1: is kind of funny. It was was that vibrator purple?
48:16
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I think it was always like blacked out,
48:19
Speaker 1: so I don't think we ever saw it. Oh that's right, Okay,
48:23
Speaker 1: Well she she may actually be a little annoyed at this,
48:27
Speaker 1: she said, regardless, I found love, and I hope Michelle
48:31
Speaker 1: does too. I think she's actually a little annoyed at
48:33
Speaker 1: the difference in the promos. I would say it probably
48:37
Speaker 1: has to do with timing. They have a little bit
48:40
Speaker 1: more time to crank out a promo when somebody has
48:42
Speaker 1: chosen to be the bachelor atte like six months before
48:45
Speaker 1: filming starts. When Katie season, it was like a week before. Yeah,
48:50
Speaker 1: and uh, I mean to be honest, like it's very
48:53
Speaker 1: It was very clear that they really wanted Michelle Young
48:56
Speaker 1: as a bachelorette, Like they moved filming schedules around just
49:00
Speaker 1: to have hers a bachelors So like they've been prepping
49:02
Speaker 1: for Michelle Young, like you said, for months, and they've
49:05
Speaker 1: also just they're very like, very excited for her to
49:08
Speaker 1: be the bachelorette. So um, but yeah, Katie made a
49:12
Speaker 1: good joke about it. She found love. Hopefully Michelle does too.
49:15
Speaker 1: I think that's a great comment and I hope they
49:16
Speaker 1: both do well. Um. We recently had Connor Brennan on
49:20
Speaker 1: the Almost Famous podcast, and here's a headline about him.
49:23
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise is Connor Brennan and Victoria Paul spotted
49:27
Speaker 1: together in Nashville after filming. Well, guys, they both do
49:32
Speaker 1: live in Nashville, and they both have been on the show,
49:35
Speaker 1: so I'm pretty sure they could be friends. They didn't
49:39
Speaker 1: exactly hit it off the first week of Paradise. They
49:42
Speaker 1: weren't involved at all. Um, but there was a girl
49:47
Speaker 1: got a got a video of them dancing. There's no
49:51
Speaker 1: sight of kissing or anything like that. I do not
49:54
Speaker 1: know that there's anything juicy here. No, I think I
49:59
Speaker 1: think they're probably hanging out. They both live there. Maybe friendly,
50:01
Speaker 1: maybe not, who knows. But the next headline is forward.
50:04
Speaker 1: Bachelor Matt James is set to compete allegedly. We don't
50:09
Speaker 1: we can't confirm this. This is a rumor, but allegedly
50:14
Speaker 1: set to compete on season thirty of Dancing with the Stars.
50:16
Speaker 1: This according to us YEP, and while the network has
50:20
Speaker 1: not commented on this casting news, the full cast is
50:23
Speaker 1: going to be announced this coming Wednesday, September eight, and
50:28
Speaker 1: if he is on the list, he will be joining
50:30
Speaker 1: Tristo Sadder, Melissa Ryecroft, Jake Povaca, Shan Low, Crystals, Nick Faile,
50:37
Speaker 1: Joe Mobley, Hannah Brown, and Caitlin Bristow, amongst all the
50:42
Speaker 1: Bachelor alums that have also competed on Dancing with the
50:44
Speaker 1: Stars over the past few years. I've always taken offensive.
50:47
Speaker 1: I was never asked, and um, I think that's because
50:50
Speaker 1: the show saw me dance a few times and they're like, yeah,
50:53
Speaker 1: this is more embarrassing than good would work. I thought
50:58
Speaker 1: it was a move. Hey. Rachel Kirknel admits that she
51:02
Speaker 1: hit rock bottom after being pressured to stay silent on
51:06
Speaker 1: resurfaced pictures very interesting. Okay. So on Monday, Rachel appeared
51:12
Speaker 1: on a show called Unscripted Live um from Privilege to Progress,
51:20
Speaker 1: where she recalled the days leading up to her apology.
51:23
Speaker 1: She said, I had a lot of people in my
51:26
Speaker 1: ear saying you'll have time. Don't make it worse. You'll
51:30
Speaker 1: have your time to speak. We'll give you a platform.
51:33
Speaker 1: Just waited out. She continued to say, I felt pressured
51:38
Speaker 1: to keep it all in and to wait and to
51:41
Speaker 1: stay silent, and ultimately, you know, she decided to take
51:45
Speaker 1: the first steps and apologize for her actions in an
51:47
Speaker 1: Instagram post. So I finally decided to put a statement
51:50
Speaker 1: out and then obviously that wasn't enough because it's not
51:53
Speaker 1: actually a conversation. Anyone could have written that statement, which
51:57
Speaker 1: a lot of people had thought. Um, I didn't even
52:02
Speaker 1: have any sort of representation at that point. People were like, wow,
52:05
Speaker 1: her publicists did great with this, and that's when I
52:08
Speaker 1: was like, this isn't enough. Um yeah, so interesting, always
52:15
Speaker 1: something I kind of thought about. Yeah, it is interesting,
52:18
Speaker 1: and it I mean, obviously it was a major season
52:22
Speaker 1: in terms of Rachel uh in terms of the show,
52:25
Speaker 1: and so it's interesting to hear this stuff come out.
52:27
Speaker 1: You know, I think a lot of people were just
52:28
Speaker 1: hoping she would have the freedom talk um and share
52:31
Speaker 1: where she was at and what was going on. So
52:33
Speaker 1: it's interesting that she felt pressured not to um. But
52:37
Speaker 1: we're starting to hear more about it now. Actually switched
52:40
Speaker 1: gears just a bit. We were texting about this this
52:42
Speaker 1: week and I was I want to know what was up? Uh,
52:47
Speaker 1: and so I asked you and you didn't really know either.
52:48
Speaker 1: But now we do have, UM some concrete statement here
52:54
Speaker 1: that Bachelor's Karin Olympio splits from boyfriend Vincent after nearly
52:59
Speaker 1: two years quit is they weren't meant to be I know,
53:02
Speaker 1: so sad um. You and I were kind of speculating
53:06
Speaker 1: it based on like Instagram activity, and then when I
53:09
Speaker 1: saw this headline, I texted Karin and UM, I'm sad
53:13
Speaker 1: that they didn't work out. Uh. It looks like she
53:18
Speaker 1: will be moving out of Arizona. They were living together
53:23
Speaker 1: and apparently they've had only minimal communications since the split.
53:27
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. It's tough because I know that was a
53:31
Speaker 1: relationship that we had Krannon and she talked about she's
53:34
Speaker 1: excited about and you had dinner with and so UM, Yeah,
53:37
Speaker 1: it's tough. Well, hey, uh, interesting headline here. Bachelor in
53:41
Speaker 1: Paradise is Chris Conran, who we haven't heard much from
53:46
Speaker 1: on this episode, which really didn't see his face this episode. Yeah,
53:49
Speaker 1: it's interesting, but he hits back at fans questioning his sexuality.
53:53
Speaker 1: I guess fans were out there, uh questioning uh what
53:57
Speaker 1: he was interested in? Yeah, Chris said on Instagram this week,
54:02
Speaker 1: I've noticed rumors of people questioning my sexuality. I'm not gay.
54:07
Speaker 1: It's disrespectful that society effeminates Asian men and uses gay
54:12
Speaker 1: as a derogatory term. Don't impose sexuality on individuals. Well,
54:17
Speaker 1: interesting conversation that Chris is now having out there in
54:20
Speaker 1: the world. Um. Under the next uh topic, which is
54:25
Speaker 1: about Lance Bass, he wants to host a season of
54:27
Speaker 1: The Bachelor with lgbt Q contestants. This according to NBC News. Well,
54:35
Speaker 1: Lance and I have talked about this before. He would
54:38
Speaker 1: be so good at something like this. He did something
54:40
Speaker 1: similar on a cable show where it was a houseful
54:46
Speaker 1: of eligible gay men, and now it looks like he
54:50
Speaker 1: is interested in doing maybe a spinoff um or or
54:54
Speaker 1: maybe just a version or just The Bachelor where it
54:57
Speaker 1: is um with a LGBT lead, he said, and he goes,
55:04
Speaker 1: this is a quote from and he goes, if you
55:06
Speaker 1: want the most dramatic season ever, do an LGPT version.
55:11
Speaker 1: I think it's time for the Bachelor to do a
55:13
Speaker 1: gay Bachelor. I think that would be so much fun.
55:16
Speaker 1: And I definitely know a host if you need it.
55:19
Speaker 1: He said. I would have not talked to anyone about it,
55:22
Speaker 1: but I would be so down, so interesting. Um, I mean,
55:27
Speaker 1: I know you're down. The more you can watch of
55:30
Speaker 1: our buddy Lance Bass, the happier you are. Well. Colton
55:34
Speaker 1: Underwood seen kissing a man in Hawaii, four months after
55:38
Speaker 1: publicly coming out this according to E T Yes So,
55:43
Speaker 1: he was spotted kissing Jordan's c Brown in Hawaii. The
55:47
Speaker 1: pictures are from TMZ. In these shots, Colton and uh
55:52
Speaker 1: new new bou Jordan's are lounging shirtless on the beach
55:57
Speaker 1: while staying at the Four Seasons in Maui. Coulton has
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Speaker 1: posted about being at the Four Seasons and mally this week.
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Speaker 1: Um and Colton is like on his phone, Brown's reading
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Speaker 1: a book And in between all this lounging, they share
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Speaker 1: a kiss. And that's what we got right now. And
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Speaker 1: by the way. This guy Jordan Brown, he is Los
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Speaker 1: Angeles base. He's thirty eight. He is the founder of
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Speaker 1: One Blue Hill, which is a boutique political strategy agency.
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Speaker 1: And I read that he I believe he worked on
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Speaker 1: the Obama and Hillary Clinton campaigns before find founding this agency. Well,
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Speaker 1: Bachelort's Michael A. As we like to know him, shares
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Speaker 1: tribute to late wife Laura on anniversary. His quote is
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Speaker 1: keep smiling down on us so sad, he says, Happy anniversary, Darling,
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Speaker 1: I miss you so much that I'm actually at a
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Speaker 1: loss for words. Imagine that, keep smiling down on us
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Speaker 1: as you always have, and I'll continue trying my hardest
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Speaker 1: to make you proud. So much has changed, and yet
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Speaker 1: my love for you remains the same. I will continue
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Speaker 1: to carry you with me on a journey that was
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Speaker 1: meant to be ours. And while your body is not near,
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Speaker 1: your spirit remains alive in our hearts. I love you
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Speaker 1: to the moon and back. Pumpkin, I'm gonna start crying. Um.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for all the love, laughter and memories that all
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Speaker 1: soon never forget. Oh my, uh Pumpkin, I know. Well, Hey,
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Speaker 1: that's all the headlines we have for today. Uh, that's
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Speaker 1: also the end of the podcast. I am going to
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Speaker 1: take a week off. Ashley will hold down the fort
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Speaker 1: with I Believe a special guest co host Derek paith Uh.
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Speaker 1: We'll be filling in. UM. I'll miss y'all, Actually, i'll
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Speaker 1: miss you. Have a great week. I'll miss you. I'll
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Speaker 1: be thinking about you. Thank you. I'll be back next week.
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Speaker 1: But until then, I've been bent. I've been Ashley. Hi. Guys.
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