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129. Top TV Villains! · Notable Nostalgia

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  Speaker 1: What's up in the saw to nerds, Welcome to another
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  Speaker 1: fun episode of Notable Nostalgia. It is I Andy and Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: So we thought this month might be kind of fun
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  Speaker 1: to do some sitcoms, some TV shows. It's getting kind
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  Speaker 1: of cold out you want to hunker down on your
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  Speaker 1: couch watch some TV get snugly, I don't know, bacon
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  Speaker 1: cake or something, you know, all the fun stuff. So
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  Speaker 1: we figured, so we figured we're gonna do the best
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  Speaker 1: villains of all TV sitcoms.
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  Speaker 2: I think that the villains I always identified with a lot,
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  Speaker 2: maybe just number one because I'm a horrible person, but
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  Speaker 2: even why watching Disney like movies back in the day,
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  Speaker 2: I always like loved Jafar, loved or Ursula, and I don't.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing about Ursula, though, is I don't listen.
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  Speaker 2: I don't associate with that because that was my audition
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  Speaker 2: song for the play music Hairspray, So I haven't like
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  Speaker 2: returned to that yet, but I will because Ursula's fucking
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  Speaker 2: bad aspect. Like TV villains, like, there are so many
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  Speaker 2: iconic ones, and I think that that to have a
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  Speaker 2: good hero, like you talked about before when you were
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  Speaker 2: discussing like your uh love for like the Joker, like
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  Speaker 2: without a Batman, like without a good villain, there's not
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  Speaker 2: a good hero kind of vibe.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we did an episode about villains.
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  Speaker 2: Oh shit, did we?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think about TV villains.
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  Speaker 2: Oh maybe we did villains? Well? Fuck we did? Huh?
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  Speaker 2: Did we?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, listener, let's go deep dive into this right
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  Speaker 2: now and like see if we did. Maybe we're just
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  Speaker 2: becoming so big that we like, I don't know. Hello
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  Speaker 2: nostalgy nerds. Once again, I am Jeff. I'm hey, welcome
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  Speaker 2: to Notable Nostalgia. So today we are going to be
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  Speaker 2: discussing some of our favorite heroes and villains of yesteryear.
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  Speaker 1: to google it because he's like, ohit already said that before.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just we're basically geniuses like Eminem and Lol Wayne,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so we've done for we are like them. We've
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  Speaker 2: done Oh, the Cult special was good. Oh we did
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  Speaker 2: heroes and villains. Oh okay, so it was it was
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  Speaker 2: all genres. I don't so. Just looking at the art,
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  Speaker 2: so it looks like it was released on January seventh,
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  Speaker 2: so it was a while ago. And we had oh
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  Speaker 2: we did have Ursula, we had Kurt Cobain, Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I forgot about the euro of art. I look like
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  Speaker 2: I had Sarah Connor from Terminator. You had somebody had Rugrats,
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  Speaker 2: So who was that?
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  Speaker 1: I think it was me for Tommy Pickles.
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  Speaker 2: Tommy Pickle, He's iconic hero Alec Baldwin, Oh, just Alex
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  Speaker 2: Alec Baldwin in general. So it looks like besides Tommy Pickles,
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  Speaker 2: and then we we didn't really cover and do a
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  Speaker 2: deep dive into TV. So today is focused just on
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  Speaker 2: TV and we need to get onto our news department
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  Speaker 2: and researchers because this was Yeah, so I'm glad.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that our next episode is gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: cold episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, Yeah, I think that's one where
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyways, So so TV Villains of Yester Year? Yeah, awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Well I'm trying to think we've talked so much about
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  Speaker 1: TV in the past, I don't really know like a
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  Speaker 1: good like, So, what are some shows that you liked?
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  Speaker 1: Because we've heard that so much, we just kind of
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  Speaker 1: just go straight into it.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think makes a good TV villain? Because
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  Speaker 2: ursula like it's like with the movies or whatever, it's
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  Speaker 2: a complete, like wrapped up arc unless there's like a
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  Speaker 2: sequel or whatever with like a franchise, But with a
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  Speaker 2: TV villain, this could be stretched out over multiple seasons
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  Speaker 2: and episodes. So what do you think makes a good
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  Speaker 2: villain on TV?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 1: I think some could be where you're not you don't
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  Speaker 1: really even realize it's the villain until it's too late,
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  Speaker 1: like because especially with TV, sometimes it's really long drawn out,
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  Speaker 1: but sometimes they're just right in your face. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's a really good question. That's toughy, I don't
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  Speaker 1: what about you. I can't think on top of my head.
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  Speaker 2: I think on I think on TV, it's it depends
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  Speaker 2: on obviously, like if it's like a comedy or more
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  Speaker 2: of a drama, and I think with comedy you're going
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  Speaker 2: to like, I want to dive into my top like
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  Speaker 2: my third one, If that's okay. Yeah, so I can
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  Speaker 2: kind of give you an example. Perfect. So my number
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  Speaker 2: three is and it's only because she wasn't around for
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  Speaker 2: my childhood and it's played by our icon Irene White.
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  Speaker 4: You think I.
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  Speaker 2: Should apologize, well, I mean you almost made me kill
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  Speaker 2: your cat.
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  Speaker 1: I did that.
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  Speaker 2: You stole Jerry from me, You rubbed your wedding in
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  Speaker 2: my face for months, and then you asked me to
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  Speaker 2: be your maid of honor. I mean that was just cruel.
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  Speaker 1: You told me I had to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know Amy, it seems like she's not ready
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  Speaker 2: to take responsibility. I'm Sandra, and I'm a jerdy slot
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  Speaker 2: who goes around stealing other people's boyfriends.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, who's this. I'm Carol.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a jealous psychostocker who can't take the fact that
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  Speaker 2: Jerry SHOs Sandra over me.
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  Speaker 1: And now they're moving in together and they're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: so happy and I'll be alone.
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  Speaker 2: From Superstore played the iconic Carol for multiple seasons. The
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  Speaker 2: show uh wrapped up about three years ago. Their last
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  Speaker 2: season was during the height of COVID she was and
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  Speaker 2: the reason I say I brought her up first was
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  Speaker 2: that on that episode icon Worship from a few weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: her motivation, at least according to Irene right, is that
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  Speaker 2: she just wants to be loved.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like after she said that, watching those episodes
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  Speaker 1: and like that's one hundred percent. I mean, yeah, who
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  Speaker 1: also know better than Irene White? Yea, yeah, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: like that's so true.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And she just handles it the real wrong
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  Speaker 2: wrong ways. And I guess if I'm a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the episodes of Superstore are dealing with a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the characters like finances, and they do touch on like
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  Speaker 2: how working like a minimum wage job is not really
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  Speaker 2: financially able to in America. And that's the way like
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  Speaker 2: she's dealing with this. She gets a boyfriend, the boyfriend
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  Speaker 2: cheats on her, even though it was you know, destined
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  Speaker 2: that Jerry was going to be Assandra, but regardless, and
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  Speaker 2: do you.
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  Speaker 1: Like how they decide that she's gonna start dating Jerry though, And.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing, like out sidebar about that show is
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  Speaker 2: my two least favorite characters is just because I don't
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  Speaker 2: think find them particularly funny as much as America Ferra
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  Speaker 2: Amy and then Jonah. But I think it's because they're
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  Speaker 2: the straight characters and everybody they work with are a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more like bizarre and whimsical. But Carol, I
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  Speaker 2: think what makes her good in a villain sitcom that's
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  Speaker 2: a comedy is the actress that has that quick comedic timing.
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  Speaker 2: She is so funny with her effortless delivery that she
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  Speaker 2: is likable in the sense that she's funny like the character.
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  Speaker 2: If I met this woman in person, like I might
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  Speaker 2: not enjoy her as much, but watching her, it's everything
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  Speaker 2: that comes out of her mouth as gold.
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  Speaker 1: Well too, especially with I think with Carol is you
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  Speaker 1: kind of feel bad for her because she just wants
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  Speaker 1: to be loved. Yeah, So instead of just having that
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  Speaker 1: straight hate for this villain, you kind of empathy, empathize,
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  Speaker 1: empathize with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you killed it.
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  Speaker 1: You empathize with her too, and then you kind of
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  Speaker 1: start thinking about maybe stuff in your past who are like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I did really like that person. I wouldn't maybe do
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  Speaker 1: it the way that Carol did it, but I could
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  Speaker 1: see why somebody would do that, you know. So Yeah, No,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's great, and then it is just enough
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  Speaker 1: levity with the darkness to make it ongoing and fun
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  Speaker 1: because every time she's on screen, it's a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: And she says the things that we probably are thinking,
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  Speaker 2: like we're not going like she says that she's going
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  Speaker 2: to like hurt somebody, plant PCP and there, you know,
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is. But uh, but she's not gonna do that.
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  Speaker 2: But we all think we all have those few seconds
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  Speaker 2: of moral compromiseation on in our heads that we would
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  Speaker 2: act on it. But yeah, I think listener, go listen
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  Speaker 2: to icon Worship and watch Superstore. It's streaming on Hulu.
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  Speaker 2: If enough of us watch it, we can manifest them
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  Speaker 2: to do some type of we need some type of
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  Speaker 2: reunion or an offer. We just need Irene White on
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  Speaker 2: our screens more. And then watch Electric Bloom on Disney
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  Speaker 2: Plus because she is phenomenal.
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  Speaker 1: And the creator of Superstore is Justin Spritzer, who was
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  Speaker 1: a writer and producer on the Office. And I saw
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  Speaker 1: that he was producing around my favorite seasons of the
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  Speaker 1: American Office. So if you like The Office, you'll definitely
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  Speaker 1: like Superstore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, those workplace kind of mockumentary style ones are great.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's my number three. And the only
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  Speaker 2: reason number three is just because she wasn't there for
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  Speaker 2: my childhood, not because she abandoned me, but because because
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  Speaker 2: she was that doesn't have this big of a nostalgia indent.
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  Speaker 2: So awesome. Who's your number three?
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  Speaker 1: And kind of the same way for this my third.
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  Speaker 1: It's also from a comedy sitcom, and I just the
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  Speaker 1: only the only reason he's not hire is because he
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  Speaker 1: was in a very few episodes. But it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: Cam Winston from Frasier. Nice, good afternoon again, Cam misson Crane.
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  Speaker 1: You may have bamboozled the condo, bo, but we both
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  Speaker 1: know you just want more room to swing your fat
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  Speaker 1: ass into that BMW.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: If there's any benefit to me, it is the cleaner
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  Speaker 3: air which we will all now breathe.
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  Speaker 1: So get off your high horse.
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  Speaker 4: You do your share of polluting with that substitute for
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  Speaker 4: masculinity you're driving.
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  Speaker 3: If minds a substitute for masculinity, then what is yours?
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  Speaker 2: Bigger?
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  Speaker 1: So I love this character played by Brian Stokes Mitchell,
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  Speaker 1: and one of the reasons he wasn't on a lot
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  Speaker 1: of episodes is because they actually offered more episodes for him,
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  Speaker 1: but he was on Broadway at that time, so he
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  Speaker 1: turned down more episodes. He was doing a Man of
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  Speaker 1: La Mancha, so that's pretty cool. I've never seen it,
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  Speaker 1: but I want to check it out now. But I
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  Speaker 1: think cam Winston is a perfect villain for Fraser because,
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  Speaker 1: and this is gonna sound crazy, so the idea of
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  Speaker 1: having Fraser and Niles on the same show when it's
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  Speaker 1: almost the same character, seems pretty crazy. Yeah, but Niles
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  Speaker 1: is a little bit more you know, Fraser esque than Fraser,
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  Speaker 1: so that kind of makes Fraser the normal guy out
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  Speaker 1: of the two. So having a third that would be
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  Speaker 1: just like Fraser and Niles, I think like having that
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  Speaker 1: trio of those three would be so freaking funny. He's smart,
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  Speaker 1: he has an awesome voice, just like Kelsey Grammer. He's educated,
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  Speaker 1: he's quick witted. Every time Fraser tries to out smart him,
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  Speaker 1: he outsmarts Fraser. I think it'd be really funny if
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  Speaker 1: cam Winston and Niles started a friendship, and that's just
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  Speaker 1: like a really cool few episode arc to where then
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of one of the reason I put
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  Speaker 1: him on here is because since he wasn't on there
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  Speaker 1: so much, I can kind of think of all these
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  Speaker 1: other hilarious scenarios where he could have been a different
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  Speaker 1: type of villain. So him being like really good friends
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  Speaker 1: with Niles, Fraser is getting jealous and then I was
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  Speaker 1: like acting crazy, you know, I think that'd be hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: There was a little bit of a thing where Fraser's
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  Speaker 1: dad was dating cam Winston's which I think they didn't
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  Speaker 1: really touch too much on, but they really could have
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  Speaker 1: gone into that more. And uh yeah, it's just like
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  Speaker 1: everything he does is really funny, and I just think
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  Speaker 1: they would be really good together.
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  Speaker 2: And so I was curious when you when you chose him,
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  Speaker 2: what is the name of the other villain of the show,
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  Speaker 2: Not because I don't think Bulldog's of a villain, but
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  Speaker 2: he's kinda like in like a contrast, But who's the
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  Speaker 2: the isn't the who's the pressy one that works at
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  Speaker 2: the at the studio?
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't really say, uh, that's Gil. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: Gil would be either. It almost seems like Beebe his agent,
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  Speaker 1: might be one of the villains Lilith Lilith kind of
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  Speaker 1: you know what, kind of It's almost like Frasier is
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  Speaker 1: his own villain. It because there'sn't one overarching villain really
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  Speaker 1: other than him being so pretentious and being so pompous. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's really Yeah, I don't know if there's
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  Speaker 1: like one overarch Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Huh. So Frasier is the villain, is sure?
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  Speaker 1: He is his own villain kind of Wow.
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  Speaker 2: So crazy Sam Winston.
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  Speaker 1: He's hot as fuck, right, he's good looking cat for sure. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know that voice like this, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder why they chose someone so attractive when a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the times not saying that the per I
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't say. I don't know if Prissy is like because
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  Speaker 2: he was homosexual, the prissy one Gil.
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  Speaker 1: In the show, and the show he says no, but
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  Speaker 1: then but that's kind of a joke, right kind of.
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  Speaker 1: But he's also dating a female that's like in bowling league,
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  Speaker 1: and so he's like, oh, I think he's dating a lesbian,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And then but then later on in the
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  Speaker 1: season he has one of the best clothes forever when
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  Speaker 1: if there has some sexual harassment thing, and Gil's like,
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  Speaker 1: and just so you know, Gil will never stop loving
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  Speaker 1: the ladies. It is such a good speech. Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: So some of the little like Mousey nerd ones like
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  Speaker 2: they are like the freakiest and like the best lovers, though,
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  Speaker 2: because they have to work for it. It's like Gil
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  Speaker 2: has to work a lot harder than Sam Winston.
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  Speaker 1: Probably, Oh sure, yeah, yeah, I mean have you watched
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  Speaker 1: the new season of Frazier New Ones?
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  Speaker 2: No? Wait wait, wait, so I saw the I watched
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  Speaker 2: the first few episodes of the reboot, and.
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  Speaker 1: Then season one of the boot wasn't great, but they
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  Speaker 1: were kind of getting their season two. I thought they
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  Speaker 1: did great, but in season two Bulldog comes out. Oh
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  Speaker 1: so then they go, that makes sense, that's why you
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  Speaker 1: were so overcompensated, and goes, yeah, that was me. I
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  Speaker 1: liked the dudes.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like that's really.
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  Speaker 1: Cool they gave him because you know, he's gained real life.
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  Speaker 2: Do you so I didn't know that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I like that.
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  Speaker 2: I like that. So all the gays that are in
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  Speaker 2: the closet are just misogynistic dicks?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but yeah no, check out cam Winston. I
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  Speaker 1: think the episode where Fraser wants to be on the
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  Speaker 1: board in the condo he lives in, and then Cam
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  Speaker 1: Winston puts a huge American flag because he knows you
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  Speaker 1: can't ask to get that American flag removed, even though
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that American flag covers all of Fraser's windows, But if
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: you ask for it to be removed, then it seems
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  Speaker 1: like you're on patriotic Oh my god. And that's the
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  Speaker 1: thing is, like he's a little bit smarter than Frasier,
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  Speaker 1: but they have a lot of the same qualities because
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  Speaker 1: when they're trying to be friends, they're like creating like
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  Speaker 1: a document of like a peace document. And he's like, Okay,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I won't park in your spot, but you have to
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  Speaker 1: tell me your bath blend. And he's like, okay, we
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  Speaker 1: gotta do it again. So they both kind of like
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  Speaker 1: dress nice. They both like nice bath. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: just think it'd be great.
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  Speaker 2: So I love that, like like the nerdiness of it
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  Speaker 2: all that, Like that's how usually like stereotypical men will
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  Speaker 2: like beat each other up or whatever, and these ones
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  Speaker 2: are like, let's do a peace treaty.
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  Speaker 5: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. So my number two villain on Telly
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: is fuck me okay, oh no, it's Magneto from The
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: X Men, the animated series.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: Bigot Ingrate sickophent worm so small I could smite you
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: with a step.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: There was a time I would smite you all.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: For what was done to Storm, but today I have
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: saved you from your own for an old friend has
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: challenged me to remember this view of earth a lastidis
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: versus how small we make it. Charles Xavier entrusted me
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: with his dream, and it does not ask you to
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: love or embrace my kind as your own, but merely
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: to accept that this is a shared world with a
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: common future, and that my kind, like yours, have the
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: right to live in it. I am trying.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: To be better. Please do not make me let you down.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: So this is one like I love x Men so much,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: and he is a villain in the sense that like
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: he kills people and like just like breaks a lot
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: of laws and that kind of thing. But he is
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: just so fed up with the discrimination and marginalization of
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: mutants and people that are different. So he's his intentions
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: are good, but how he comes about it it's not
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: the best. I think he's just a badass character. His
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: relationship with Professor Xavier, whose goal is to unite humans
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: and mutants for the common good of Earth and humanity,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: it just I love that relationship between the two of them,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: and how they have love for each other. But they
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: have such different ways of pursuing their ideal of what
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: the world should look like. And it's badass, Like he
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: controls metal like that's fucking awesome. His outfits like super
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: fucking sexy, like long white hair in the comics, So
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Well, it's cool too because they kind of almost have
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the same goal. Yeah, but they're going about it two
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: separate ways.
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: And literally just said that, well, yeah, but like the
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: way that Magneto goes through knowing his background of like uh,
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: you know, uh, I don't know if it still is
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: with the now, I guess the ninety seven to one,
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: the reboot anyways.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, concentration Camp.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and so yeah, because I was like, now,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: he'd be like a hundred bud or something like that,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: hundred ten or something like that. Anyways.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: But and that's another reason why he's such a good
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: villain is because you could see why somebody would take
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the steps he's taking because he has literally seen the
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: worst humanity has to offer, Yeah, just for being different.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: So you can see why he's like, I don't want
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: this to happen to anybody else, So you kind of
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: empathize empathize with him because of his background, So yeah,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: that's a great villain for sure.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I think his like relationship with I forget the name
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: of him, the kind of the under because there's different
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: levels and different types of mutants. So there's different levels
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: with like their powers and how powerful they are, but
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: there's also different types that have powers like control the
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: weather and move things with their minds or control metal
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: versus mutants that like look like the lizard person. Then
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, and those ones seem to live more kind
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: of in the sewers and underground, and I'm spacing on
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: what they're called, but anyways, but his relationship with them,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: and especially in like the reboot of X Men ninety
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: seven when the world, like their country, like the mutant
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: country is eliminated pretty much is such a heartbreaking episode
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: and just everybody watch it, like I know that it's
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: taking so fucking long for like the next season to
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: come out, but it's just an amazing It's fun for
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: like the nostalgic purposes, but just the commentary on our
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: society and how we treat people. It's unfortunately still very
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: relevant thirty forty fifty when it men, I think X
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Men came out like in like the six, late sixties,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: early seventies, it's still relevant, unfortunately, but I think Stanley
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: and all of his you know, comrades back then they
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: did great with obviously creating the Marvel universes and stuff
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: like that. But I feel like X Men, it's kind
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: of like with an ensemble cast, there's always somebody that
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: you identify with your favorite X Men. Someone's always gonna say, oh, Storms, eyeclops,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: like they just have something for everybody, And just like
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: the commentary is just so relevant, and I know, like,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: what's the Spider Man one? Like, like the kind of
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: the moral of Spider Man.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Well, for me, I could have seen it different than
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: other people, but since you didn't see his skin color
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: or his face, to me, is always like anybody could
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: be a superhero. Oh that's what I kind of.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: And he's kind of like a little pee weave. Then
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: he like gets the South, Yeah, that kind of thing.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: So I guess like there are you know, superheroes do
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: have those moral fans. But I just think like X
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Men is really on the dot with it. And I
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: think that Magneto is almost like a like almost I
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: would consider more like an anti hero than a villain.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I would say so that's my that's my number three too.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Sure, that's great. No, yeah, I have great, great choice.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I've been seeing online a bunch of lately people going
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: like your mount rushmore of superheroes, and the top three
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: for me super easy, it's gonna be Superman, Batman, Spider Man.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: But then four, I'm like, I'm for me personally, I'm
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: probably gonna lean towards Wonder Woman more. But it's always
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: on a Roman or Wolverine. It's hard for it depends
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: on my mood. But if someone could a gun in
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: my head, I'd probably choose one a Roman. But there's
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: definitely room for debate on why I would choose Woverine two.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: But that's a hard one. I would probably say Batman.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Can I do villains too or no? Probably not no, wait,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: just heroes. So I would say Batman would be online.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: That's gonna be mainly because of the nostalgia of the
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: animated series and Batman and Batman returns. I would say
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Storm Rogue, and I think Nightcrawler is super fucking badass.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah Crawler, Yeah, yeah, like all the villains in X Men,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Like Mystique is a badass one too, and like that
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: she can uh, control her power and she could pass
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: as like a quote normal human, but she chooses to
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: be her blue form And I'm like, fuck, yeah, yeah, badass.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: So what's your number? What's your number? Two?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: So this one is really scary. When I was a kid,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: this one scared the shit out of me. It's one
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: of my favorite TV shows ever. Star Trek the Next Generation.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna have to go with the Borg.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we are a Borg.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Lower your shields and your ships.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: We will add to a biological and technological distinctiveness to
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: our own.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Your culture will adapt to services. Resistance is futile.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: So the reason I think they're one of the best
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: villains is because how they can adapt to any situation
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: and they do it quickly, and there isn't just like
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: every borg is every person. So you could kill someone
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, and let's just say it
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: took place in America in Kentucky, but they're all connected,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: so they would adapt to that type of attack in California.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: And that's really frightening to where you're constantly battling an
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: enemy that it's constantly giving the information to thousands, maybe
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: millions of different like beings. You know, but the fact
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: too that they have resistance is futile and there is
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: no talking your way out of anything because they don't
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: use emotion for anything. So they're like these like kind
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: of like computerists, I don't know, like biobe half human
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: half but their brains are all like computers and everything,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: so they don't use emotion for anything. They have a
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: single goal and that's to basically eradicate all organic life
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: in a way. But they just want to consume them
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: so they can make themselves stronger, which I guess if
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: you think about the net positive or the net negative
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: of the universe, if you did do that, there wouldn't
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: be no wars, so you could see how.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: But the but the outcome of winning the war would
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: not be peace, it would be non existence.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: They would get rid of like your free like your
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: free will. So if no nobody had free will, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: if everybody was the same same, there would be no more.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's crazy, it's really fucking scary
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and terrifying. I mean, personally, I don't really believe in
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: free will, but that's a whole different But but yeah,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the way they assimilate people is super scary to me,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: their nanotechnology, the way they look themselves are really scary.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: The philosophical threat, you know, they challenge the very just
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: the very thought of individualism there against which is scary.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: So I mean, just overall, they're really frightening. So yeah,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: that's my second.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: So the So the Queen is just like any of
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: her other minions or other parts of it or no,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: she has more a little bit more emotion, right.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: So the Queen came out after the Next Generation TV show.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm kind.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Of focusing mine more just on the blankness of the
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: information they give you during the generation you don't really know.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: But then with the Queen, I guess there is one
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: that she is above because she she can talk back
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and forth and she kind of knows why other people
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: would think stuff's right and her own.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think the boorg has always terrified me,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: and I got introduced to them like obviously, like Next
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Generation was in my side profile. But the first Star
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Trek that I got into where I watch like almost
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: every episode is Voyager and like the story they are
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: featured on there. Then they have seven of nine who
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: gets unassimilated and joins the crew who's she's somebody like
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Jerry Ryan fuck yeah, and she's like keeping it tight,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: so I fucking love her. But it is so much more.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: It is so much more terrifying than like if I
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: had to join the Brotherhood of Mutants like Magnetos group
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: with X Men, because if I joined them, I'm still
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: my individual, even though I'm following a leader. But on,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: But if I joined the Borg and got assimilated, like joined,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: like I get trapped like nobody. I don't think there's
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: any like sign ups there, but uh, you don't have
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: free any type of free will at all anymore.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: You're gone.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's terrifying. That's like the difference maybe between
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: going to hell and like just a computer turning off
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: after you die. Not to get too heavy.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, more terrifying exactly.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my word, yeah, the thought of not.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I know, the Borg is really cool.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Who ever thought of that? Really cool?
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: At like enemy and I kind of feel like maybe
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: everybody needs to in society like rewatch it, or maybe
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: we need another Star Trek movie and if they come
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: out with shows, but I think maybe a movie in
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: theaters that feature the Boorg now, because it's kind of
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: like again coming back a little bit more with the
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: explosion like this year and last year of AI like
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: really consuming all of us. And that's pretty much on
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: a commentary on AI.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Are you going to get a robot?
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Am I gonna get a robot? Sex robot or regular
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: chore one?
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you could teach the choor one like help.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: He's like, so there's that neo robot that I'm like
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: really thinking about order because it's two hundred dollars deposit.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: They're shipping him out starting in twenty twenty six, and
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: they're about twenty thousand dollars, so I don't have the
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: money for it right now, but in a couple of
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: years I think I will. But I was thinking about it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, within the first like week, you know,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be like man's dick got ripped off, like instantly,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be trying to fuck that thing.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Not the women, no no, no, no no. But if
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: it's twenty thousand dollars, if you get like five of
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: your close friends to like go in it and we
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: like share it, yeah, then that that's really kind of doable.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And then if you just.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Drove it to like like I'll take it Monday, Tuesday,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: you take it, yeah Thursday, or like on yeah Saturday,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you only have three thousand, you get a Sunday just
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: using it for hand drobs.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Hands but like I said that right, hands really different
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: look than the rest of the botto. He's like trying
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: or here it is trying to eat the dishes and
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I'm just like hey, like and he's like, I'm trying
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: to do this. Man.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: You know, the company would have so like so many
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: repairs just on the hands, like guarantee.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: It comes with it should come with back up, and
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: then like the hand like ends up getting pregnant and
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: that's how the bar happened. Ship. We can't do this.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: We can't do we can not have sex with our robots.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I've been super nice to Amazon Alexa my entire life.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I always say please and thank you. So it's funny
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: because we were talking about it because we were watching
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the Orville and I have a really cool thing about this.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: But the girls are like, you're so nice, you probably
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: end up doing its chores for it. I'm like, oh,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I don't worry robot all like, I'm like doing the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: dishes for it and just like sit there and.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Like how I treat robots is like like I treat
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: like the microwave like it's the mouth and I just
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: fucking in it. Anyways, So I just discussed I I
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: toast her. I'm just like, get over your motherfucker. Okay,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: So I have I do want to do. I'm not
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: sure if you have any honorable mentions before we get
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: to number one. I do have one little shot out
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: that stuck with me. It's not a major role. I
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: think he appeared in six episodes, but Bob Vila from
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Home Improvement, So why that one, Like when we came
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: up with this topic or came up with it a
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: second time because we already did it once. Is that
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Bob Vila back in the day, like at least in
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: my household, like my dad and then my grandpa before him,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: like are super into like home renovations, home repair that kind.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: So those like HG TV themes are always on and
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Bob Vila was like on TV a lot, and it
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: was a big deal because the Home Improvement was a
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: show that we watched together and it was a big
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: deal to see like a real person playing himself. And
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: again he wasn't the villain. Tim Allen was the Tim
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Taylor was the villain of that show. Bob Yla was
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: just trying to like just wasn't a complete fuck up.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: What was the name of that?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Was it?
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Like making stuff with Vila?
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was so so good, But I like I
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: bring I'm sure Bob Vila is like a maga kind
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: of but whatever, it's still fucking he kind of old house,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: this old house. Yeah, I can love Bob Villa.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I watched this ship out of this old house back
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: in the day.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Should we do like a spinoff where it's just like
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: a Bob Vila, Like, I'm sure how much Look at
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: how much he's worth. By the way, I'm super curious
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: You and I should started this old house. But it's
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: just you and.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I and just making shit.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we don't have any training. So they're like
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: we need to change that water heater. We just both
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: die in.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Something or like at a water heaters like danger. We
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: can knock on people's doors and be like you need
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: a new TV, you need to need whatever, and you're
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: like painting the wall like a badass color and I'm
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: just like jerking off into their fridge.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: This eighty million Yeah, I guess I could see, like, yeah,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: why did I say it's so high? Yeah, I mean
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: he's had multiple TV shows on He's eighty years old,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: so I mean, yeah, I could see that it's a
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: little high though.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Eighty million, yeah, I feel like celebrities back in like
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: the nineties and two thousands they got paid a lot.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: More million, So between twenty five and eighty so five
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: seems totally doable.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Bobby La, twenty five is a lot of money, So
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: if you're listening, please send Andy and I have forty
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: bucks each.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Now, well, I think this will House started in like
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty, so I mean that went on for twenty
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: five years and then I think he got He worked
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: for like Sears as a commercial guy and stuff.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: So he brought down Sears. So okay. So my number
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: one villain of all time on television is Ferguson from
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Claristic Expleens at All.
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: Oh say, can you say about Furnushing.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Darley Ferguson Darling a man of the people? Oh waf
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: to my constituents.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Every time the wind blows.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: A man of the times, get with it.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: This is the nineties.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: A man with a sense of humor say something presidential
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: no comment happen.
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: He'll get it done because he's not afraid to put
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: in the hours.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Let the history books show that I was never loved for.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Walking Ferguson Darling for president times come for me to
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: take my place? And the Panthana greatly.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Of Furd breast of fresh Air.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: I think that that, like Nickelodeon was such a huge
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: part of our childhood and like millennials childhoods for the
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: most part, and I think Clarissa explains it all. Was
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: definitely a pivotal one for the Snick lineup Nickelodeon just
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: kind of the teenage angst of the time. Her fashion
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: was a little alternative, and her talking at the camera,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like what they say about like news anchors.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: It's such a personal connection looking at the viewer.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: It kind of makes you feel like you're in the show.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so she's like more, you know, a little
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: alternative and wallflower style, having that contrast of like a
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: very like conservative villain, financially vicious, just brother and the
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: only thing like perfect. I don't know what the actor's doing.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: He probably isn't worth any money, not that that matters,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: but like you think he's worth a lot of money.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess he eat like it.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like he was young enough, and I
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: feel like he probably got paid I don't know, ten
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars an episode of something back in the day.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: So if he used that money to like buy real estate,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: maybe he's worth something.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. If his character is anything like him, then I'm
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: hopeful that his parents didn't take advantage of him. But
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of the kids back then had
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: parents that would be same thing. If Jackson was on
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Nickelodeon tomorrow, best believe I'd be taking all Jackson's money.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Would I would buy so many fucking sex robots I do.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: That's what I call I already have sex robots. It's
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: called my microwave, fridge oven. All my appliances, all my
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: appliances get pregnant. And I don't understand biology, but so
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: but no, I just love love that evil dynamic between
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: the two of them. He does show up for his
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: sister at times, so I appreciate that, and I just
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: love like, like growing up, you know my sister. I
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: don't think I was I was like Ferguson in like
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: the like that kind of vibe but I was like
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: a cool version of him. So but I yeah, and
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: then my sister, like I said earlier, beat the shit
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: out of me in a fun way. But yeah, I
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: just love him.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched that show since I was a kid,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: is it? Have you watched it as an adult?
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: Only?
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I got back into it we had years ago on
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Notable Nosagia. We interviewed like one of the creators or
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: whatever of it. So I watched them episodes then and
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: then when I go on to Splat Attack, like not
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: our they're not our rival, retro reboot is but Splat Attack,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: shout out Heather and Manny.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Spot Attack the homies.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll watch their streaming and their little thingies. But yeah,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I watch it.
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: The reason why is because I haven't seen this as
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: a kid, and I wonder if because I remember for
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: it was like fuck Ferston. But I wonder now if
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I'm an adult, It's like he was not doing anything wrong,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he was totally fine.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I haven't seen it for so long,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: but I remember just hate. I hated it. Yeah, I
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: think most of it. I mean that means he was
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: doing his job well. Because we hated him, but I
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: think he was just like swarmy if that's the worst, yeah,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: or something like just like that. And for some reason
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I think he was like, wasn't he like kind of
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: like a white Carleton?
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like kind of that vibe or like did
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: you watch Recess? Yeah, he reminded me of the Yeah,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: the little like maybe something like that little little Weasley
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: guy and also the if you go back listener and
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: watch some of it. His bedroom, like the set for
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: his bedroom is a lot smaller than Clarissa's. And Clarissa
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: has a fucking alligator in her room. Like we don't
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: talk about that enough that the alligator doesn't move very often,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: but it's a fucking alligator. Well, this kid is like
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: doing his chores. His room has always fallless. She has
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: a teenage boy climbing into her window all the time. Yeah,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: and she's talking to herself. She's fucking crazy.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I thought that kid that went through the window was
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: shown from boy until I was an adult and I
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, those are different people.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I could see that. Yeah, But yeah, Ferguson, I think
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: he is a staple of villainous nostalgia.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: He was redhead though right he was. Both her parents
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: were blonde and she was blonde too, So I wonder
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: if there was some.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: They were the parents were a little more hippyish, similar
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: to like, uh, we love what's that show with Michael J. Fox?
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Family Ties? So Michael J. Fox, it was almost like
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: the reverse because he was kind of the main star
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: of that show and he was the conservative and all
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: of his family members were like the liberal and that
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: was like the funny aspect of it. But this one
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: the oh my gosh.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: So I wonder if maybe the reason he had such
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: a small room and the reason he acted the way
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: he is because the parents didn't want him because they
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: were kind of hippyish. One night drugs whatever, they're out.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: She got pregnant by someone else now, but we have
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: to keep them.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: And I'm not listener, like this might be a spoiler,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: but like I'm not the most conservative person, like I far.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I'm more of like a you know, liberal person, but
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: liberals listening, we do need the Republicans in our court.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: We need somebody like, you know, take care of us
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: after we're like done partying, like done with our somebody
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: to like I don't know if I had to choose
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: between like I don't know, somebody driving a tank, and
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I would choose between like a Republican or like a
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: liberal like me.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, because like I mean a
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: lot of Republicans they like got like they like especially
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: We'll just say Trump like he got his way out
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: of serving multiple times, kind.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Of like not that type of I would say, more like, Okay,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: so who's like a good like a decent Okay, Mitt Romney,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: you know he's kind of sexy as fuck? And Paul
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Ryan Fuck yeah, Okay, Paul Ryan is in charge of
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: like a tank like right now in defending your house
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: or Bernie Sanders. I was me, oh, okay, I don't know,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: the same as the former Speaker of the House. But
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: who are you gonna choose to drive that tank? Paul
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Ryan or Jeff like I would have i'd be playing.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Or are we sober?
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: We're defending ourselves from North Korea? I don't I guess,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, we need the Republicans.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I would pretend to be North Korean. Yeah I'm brown
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: and I can get away with it.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: What do I do?
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Just also pretend I like let leader Kim John and
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: he's like little guys, so I can just like scruff him.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like the back of his Yeah.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyways, but we are the number one liberal podcast
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: of all time and MAGA podcast because we love the listeners.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: So yeah, Andy, and soon to be number one side
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: we have no We'll do whatever.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have no We're we're upper sail. Yeah, all right,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: we're circling back. Andy. Do you have any idea what
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: you're have any idea what you're number one is?
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I was trying to think of a quick uh
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: like honorable mention?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I didn't really, I should have thought of one TV
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: shows my favorite TV shows? Okay, so I really, like,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm really trying to force us right now,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: like I'm having trouble. Okay, what do I watch? Uh? Okay,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: this is going to be my honorable mention for TV
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: shows right now? The Apprentice Trump they got Oh do.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: You think you know who speaking? I'm like on this
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Home improvement kick? Do you think what's his co host?
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Al or oh?
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Alborlin?
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Is he was? He a villain?
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: Kind of?
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. Actually, I just listen to interview
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: on how he got the thing. It wasn't supposed to
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: be him, but the other guy was like, nah, I
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: don't know, and then al Borlin just wanted to read
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: and he didn't get it, and then the other guy
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: turned it down, so they go, we need someone quick.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Who was that guy who read? And it was and
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: they called him and he's like, I'll take it, and
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: maybe I got it.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Looking back, mine aren't really villain like Carol, misunderstood and
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: kind of ostracized from her teammate or coworkers. Magneto has
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of trauma and it's just sick of being
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: like murdered. And then Ferguson is just like treated like
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: kind of ignored by his parents and like his sister
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: gets away with everything. So maybe maybe these were the heroes.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I just forget who is it? Uh Skyler from Breaking
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Bad and the wife. The only reason why is because
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: she whispers almost every dialogue and that drives me fucking crazy.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I don't care if I don't know. Uh Walter Wright
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: was punching babies. I would rather hang out with him
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: than her whispering out angers you. Oh my gosh, I
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: can't do it. I can't fuck it.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet you anything. I'm gonna look this up
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: while you talked about your number one. I bet you
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: anything that the actress that plays that is married or
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: something with one of the writers or showrunners of that show.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I bet you any I'm gonna bet that that she
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: comes she comes from something. She's like an either NEPO
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: baby or something.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just don't like the whispering. That's the reason
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: it's hard for me to like. I really want to
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: restart Breaking Back because it is an incredible show, but
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: the whispering. Man, oh, the whispering. Okay, and my I'm
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: gonna go to my number one villain of all time.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: It's probably from the most popular sitcom of all time,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: just because it got streamed a bunch during COVID, and
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: it's a really good show overall. It's the show The Office.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Oh good show. Like I just restarted again. I haven't
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: watched that show since it went off Netflix, and I
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: think that was going into twenty twenty, so it was
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: about five years and ten months this last time I
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: watched it. But I just happened to restart it. But
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I said this ten years ago. I made a Facebook
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: group about this, so fucking long ago. Jim is a
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: piece of shit.
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: Ok oh, man, it was great. They were great. Did
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: you end up investing? I did? Yeah? How much?
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Yah?
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: My man? I guess it was.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: About ten, about ten ten?
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: It was full ten wow? Yeah wow yeah.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Pam.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, welcome back, Andy, Drew.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: I'm Drew. Now morning Jim, Hey, Andy? How are you?
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: Man?
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Good Drew? What's that?
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: You can call me Drew?
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not gonna callay that.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: Cool.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: He is the villain of the TV show hands Down,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: and the first time I watched it, I knew he
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: was the piece of shit villain. So he does this
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: thing that Trump does a lot of to where he
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: creates issues and then solves it and then he's like,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I'm the good guy, you know. Like the perfect example
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: is he doesn't invite Michael to his house for a party.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: He invites everybody else. But then when Michael shows up
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: at the party because he hears about it, Michael's trying
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: to do karaoke and nobody will sing with him, and
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: then Jim's like, oh, I guess I'll sing with him,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: and then he sings, and at the end of the episode,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, Jim, what a nice guy, You're the
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: one who excluded a single person out of the office, Like,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: what a fuck. That's such a fucking asshole, bully, piece
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: of shit thing to do. He treats women like shit.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: So when Amy Adams was on there, the only reason
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: he asked her out is because he was jealous of
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Pam and Roy. He had no intention of actually dating her.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: And then he invites on the boat the Booze Cruise.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: He breaks up with her on the Booze Cruise because
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Roy says we should get married to you know, sooner
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: than we expected. She doesn't know anybody on the boat,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: she can't leave, So now she's on this Booze cruise
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: with them just sitting there in a really awkward situation,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: just because Jim's a piece of shit. And then let's
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: go on to Karen. So when Jim leaves Scranton because
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Roy and Pam are gonna get married, he starts dating Karen,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: who is the daughter of one of the biggest producers
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: of all time. He just recently died. I can't think
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: of his name right now, black dude. He is also
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: like a producer of like the the show with Will Smith.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he did.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: He do like like.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Did a bunch of Michael Jackson stuff. God, thank you.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's the daughter Quincy Jones, which is cool Jones, Yes,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: fucking w Yeah. So he starts dating Karen, and then
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: when he's moving back, he's like, you know, Karen, you
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: if you'm back to Scranton, I think it'd be pretty cool.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: So she literally up ends her life moves to Scranton
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: for Jim. Then Jim throws this big fucking hissy fit
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: because she wants to get an apartment near Jim, not
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: even like with Jim near Jim anyways. So then once
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: they're in New York, she's like, hey, I'm gonna there anyway.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not if you've seen the office that I'm talking about.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: If you haven't seen the office, gym's a piece of shit.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: But anyways, so they're in New York, she's like, hey, Jim,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out have lunch with my friends.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: That okay. Yeah.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: He breaks up with her while she's in New York
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: and goes ask pam Ount. So it just shows what
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: a piece of shit he is and he just uses
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: women when he decides to. Uh, and then let's talk
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: about him and Andy. So Andy already. He knows Andy
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: has a like an anger issue working at the other office,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: but he sets them off by hiding Andy's phone, playing
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: it over and over again and then causing Andy to
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: have like an emotional outbreak and has to go to
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: anger management. Then when Andy comes back from anger management,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: he's like, hey, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna try to
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: go by Drew. And then Jim goes, I'm not gonna
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: call you that. Why why you know this guy just
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: got back from anger management that you fucking caused.
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: What's going on? What are you talking about?
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Where's my freaking phone? You know what, Maybe it's in
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: the ceiling, you know what, maybe you're in the ceiling.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, I don't trust you, Phyllis.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: And I'm also sorry that a lot of people here,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: for some reason, think it's funny to steal someone's personal
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: property and hide it from them. Here's a little news flash.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: It's not funny.
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: In fact, it's pretty freaking un funny.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's happens to try walk.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: I think we broke his brain.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: It's not freaking funny. Today's big day.
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: Today's the day that I show Pam the house that
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: I bought for us without telling her.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I have a whole I have a bunch. I don't
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: want to go down every single one, but like I
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: have a lot of examples. I just think Jim is
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: a piece of shit. I've been saying it for like
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: ten years. Yeah. I don't know what the Facebook group
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: was called because I don't on Facebook anymore, but if
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: you look it up, it's probably called Jim's a piece
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: of shit and uh yeah.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: And another thing is I don't like that he's not
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: special anyway. He's a bully. He doesn't try for anything.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: He does his bare minimum at work, he goes home,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: does nothing, and then he makes fun of people for trying,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: like dude, fuck you, who the fuck are you? And
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: then the moment anybody that is like like when he
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: just albow comes Charles him right, great, he's like a
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: good character. You can see how bad Jim is. Then
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: he even tries to like kiss ass and then he
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: makes fun of you just opera for kissing ass to
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: the c CFO or whatever. But anybody with competence, you know,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: in like a work setting, like Charles, I can't remember
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: his name, shows that Jim is just a piece of shit.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: And I don't know. I don't like him. I don't
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: like him at all.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Do you find it hard to watch the Office because
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: he's such a like fucking asshole?
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: No, because I've seen it so many times now.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: No, But I'm so a couple of things and he
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: talk to you about okay number one. I feel like
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: that whole explanation of why you don't like Jim or
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: why you hate Jim could easily be a monologue used
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: for like trying out for plays, Oh they were, I
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: feel like it, or like I feel like if I
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: try out for a play that's not a musical, which
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be my new thing, not try
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: out for musicals. Is I want to read, like read
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: an original piece by Andy Livesey and just like say that.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I haven't watched The Office besides clips, and primarily the
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: only clips that I watch are or one hundred percent
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: of the clips I watch are A Phyllis Amazing and
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Williams Phyllis.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: I don't like the gym guy, John Collock, whatever his
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: name is. I wish that he would cut his hair,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: and he's so below his wife because I agree, I.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Think his face looks like something that Gumby would be
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: made out of.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: I could see that, and but you know, I I'm
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: not a fan of that. And then Office is similar,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: like you were saying to uh or I was, I'm
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: making this connection, but that you mentioned Breaking Bad because
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: they're both shows that everybody's like really into, and I'm
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: usually watching like dog shit shows, So I'm like, I
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: don't have time for like these like thinking ones, but
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I maybe should watch The Office because he's just Alba
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Rashida Jones. Like this is all phyllis. It sounds amazing
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: outside bar the lady from Breaking Bad, Skyler or whatever.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: She's not Nepo and she's not she's married too. She
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: was married, then she had a failed marriage to a
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: really rich man, and then her grandfather and great grandfather.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: I think one of them worked directly with the Supreme
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Court and then the other one was like an Ohio senator.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's true, but but it's
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: pretty true, Like it's Wikipedia true.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: It sounds true.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So she's not she has a unearned sense of entitlement.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: So that's why I'm thinking that she whispered so much
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: and nobody corrected her because they knew that she was
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: a pain in the ass. So if she's listening, which
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: she probably isn't because she's too busy working part time
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: at where's the place that she would probably were, she'd
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: probably do like the the book keeping out of the
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: landscaping company. She's a nobody. She lost all of her
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: money through her divorce because she got divorced in two
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: thousand and nine. Oh shit, yeah so and he came
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: for anyways. I fucking hate her too, Andy. Anybody who
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: you kind of just like, I fucking will burn them
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: to the ground.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Why, I just looked at my notes store. I forgot
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: to say this. Jim, he's also a fucking boot liquor.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: So when his boss from New York decides to leave
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: dunder Mifflin, he says, say what you will about Michael,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: but he would never do that, Like, okay, fucking boot liquor.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: They were just trying to get rid of Michael. H
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: and you know what I mean. Yeah, So then he's like, oh,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: you gotta have you know to my CEO daddy nah man,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: fuck that fuck Jim.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Is Michael the Steve Corral.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't exclude people that you work with, like
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: one person that you work with, because that person's the
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: one that's gonna come into the office and shoot you
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: everybody boom, So you don't do that. And then number
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: two does it he date a lot of like people
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: he works with.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Jim Yeah, technically he only well two out of the
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: three that we see him on or people, so sixty
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: six percent.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you don't. You don't ship where you
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: eat unless it's panic shits, then you gotta do what
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: do I do.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Think Steve There's a few people that I think are
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: like just naturally funny, and I think they can make
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: anything funny. And I think Steve Carell is one of them.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: I think Tim Meadows, uh, let's see, we'll fire all
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: I think is really funny. John Lovettz. There's a few
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: people that I think, like if you were just like hey,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Chevy Chase back in the day, it's just like, hey,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: here's a can make that funny. I bet all five
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: of them could do something really funny with it.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: You could probably edit this out. But you know who
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I think gets a lot more praise than they need.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Michael J.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: Fox.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: And I know that's not appropriate to say, but he
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: was a teen wolf back to the futures and family
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: ties all are not that good. Yeah, so, but I
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: think that nobody can call him out on it because
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: of the Parkinson's So I know, I don't know.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Do you think Back to the Future is pretty good?
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Right? But the all start to that is the plot
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: is kind of enjoyable, and then also Christopher Lloyd is
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: like amazing. I don't think anyone's like, oh yeah, the
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: little Pip squeak is what I like.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: So the crazy thing but Back to the Future too,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: is they don't explain how they become friends Michael J.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Fox and great Scott Guy. But in one of the
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: very earliest drafts, it's because he was the doc was
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: making porn to sell.
• 53:28
  Speaker 8: Well, I don't know the way he wasn't making for
• 53:32
  Speaker 8: I think he was just like like making black like
• 53:36
  Speaker 8: recording it and then selling it and then he would
• 53:38
  Speaker 8: have Michael J.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Fox sell to the kids in high school.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Oh shit.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: So the only reason that one is kind of cannon
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: is because there's other things that they switched through other revisions,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: but they didn't switch that idea, they just didn't use it.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: So technically I still like the idea, so we for.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: The For the record, I appreciate the work that Michael J.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Fox and his wife dude for like Parkinson's people that
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: are battling that and like bringing awareness and funding for it.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: I just don't think that he's like, he's not somebody
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: that deserves like a Hollywood Walk of Fame star.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have said the same thing till I
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: found out you have to pay for your Hollywood Walk
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: of Fame. Crazy, So I was like, damn.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, maybe he would get So, I don't know, I
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: don't wish him any.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: You just say Michael Jake Farx and two holes. Okay.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: So, so we love Michael J. F Yeah, yeah, even
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: if it's unearned, we love him. Okay, So I've earned
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: with the acting career, earned with his advocacy and everything
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: like that. But he's not that good of an actor.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Spin City was a piece of shit. Like I'm gonna
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: be honest.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: The other show, but it's so nobody gives a.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Funk about It's beIN City. Like if anyone says it's
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: beIN City is your favorite show, you're questioning you. All right,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: So really quick, listener, we have a lot of things
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: going on. I'm gonna say I want to promote this one,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Dad Daughters and Diplomas. Listen, listen, listen. It is so good.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: And if you have like younger kids or whatever, it's
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: like a PG thirteen version of our podcast, Like it's
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: nostalgic and reminiscing, also discussing like the current angst of
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: high schoolers right now. It's just a great one. So
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: it's Andy and his two daughters. It's amazing, So go
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: listen to it, leave a five star review, share with
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• 55:31
  Speaker 1: By the time this episode comes out, we have a
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• 55:36
  Speaker 2: It's actually just yeah, yes, that's why I'm promoting. Now
• 55:39
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• 55:53
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• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I'm so passionate about their Dad, Daughters and Diplomas.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. We do have a trivia thing coming.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Up, I think, so what does this one come out?
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: This will be out on the seven the eleventh.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Oh fuck yeah. So in two days, on the thirteenth,
• 56:10
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• 56:12
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• 56:21
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jeff, I'm Andrey J.
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• 56:35
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