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Bob Nightengale on Difficult GMs & Trade Deadline Winners/Losers · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Hey, we've got Bob Nightingale from USA today, looking nice
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  Speaker 1: and fresh like you got some rest, Bob, great job
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  Speaker 1: on the cover is yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Question you want to start there, Bob, what do you
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  Speaker 2: think about shouldn't a white Sox have moved Luis Robert Jr.
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  Speaker 2: Or should they say, oh, we're gonna pick up his
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  Speaker 2: twenty million dollar option?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely should have moved him, and he was throw a
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  Speaker 3: bag of balls. You move the guy they were asking
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  Speaker 3: for way too high, and we can do it. Throw
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  Speaker 3: bad money after bad money. It makes no sense to
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  Speaker 3: throw twenty million dollars. Then it be since you know
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  Speaker 3: he has hurt all next year too, he can do
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  Speaker 3: the same thing. Don't move with the deadline and then
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  Speaker 3: pick up the option for another twenty million.
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  Speaker 4: Makes no sense to keep them Bingo. I like this guy.
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  Speaker 5: I like that.
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  Speaker 4: I like that, Bob.
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  Speaker 1: We're all on the same page. We're like, tell us
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  Speaker 1: we're crazy, and nobody's telling us we're crazy. So let's
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  Speaker 1: go over winners and losers. You put those out, we'll
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  Speaker 1: start there. Let's start on the positive side. You want
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  Speaker 1: to run through some of your winners. I see your list,
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  Speaker 1: But where do you want to start, Like the winner
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  Speaker 1: that you're most excited about, well, sort.
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  Speaker 4: Of the Padres.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know they're going after the Dodgers once again,
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  Speaker 3: trade away twenty two minor leaguers, and the way you
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  Speaker 3: know a j Pellar figures that, hey, we got a
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  Speaker 3: draft for a reason, we got scouts, we'll get more.
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  Speaker 3: We'll keep doing the same thing year after year. I
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  Speaker 3: love the fact they were that aggressive, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: it trade cease and in trade swars, they kept going
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  Speaker 3: after it. So now they're they're the biggest winner in
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  Speaker 3: my book by far.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I see the Astros on here. What about the Astros?
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  Speaker 1: What did you think of their trade deadline? And I
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  Speaker 1: know you were reporting a lot on the whole Carlos
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  Speaker 1: Korea situation, which I'm sure was a fun rollercoaster ride
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was stunned, you know, at the beginning of
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  Speaker 3: they even had interest in Korea with all the money.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he's he's got, uh, he's not had good
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  Speaker 3: performance in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 4: And I didn't believe it for a whiles.
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  Speaker 3: I got I kept hearing calls from different guys, so
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  Speaker 3: I finally checked out.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, we're checking in.
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  Speaker 3: Originally it still twins in up paying thirty three million dollars.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, really, what happened?
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  Speaker 3: The Twins changed the whole trade market by dumping everybody.
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  Speaker 4: It's a shock that it moved Joe Ryan too. But yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Thought the fact you get Korea for you know, a
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  Speaker 3: lot less uh, you know, dirt cheap price. Right now,
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  Speaker 3: they almost got Dylan Cees. Uh you know, they got
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  Speaker 3: outfield help.
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  Speaker 4: So I like what you did a lot. Dana Brown
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  Speaker 4: had nice deadline.
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  Speaker 2: Bob, you mentioned the Twins. I know you used to
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  Speaker 2: cover the Twins a lot up in Minneapolis. Your son
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  Speaker 2: still covers the Twins. What the heck were they doing?
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  Speaker 2: And should Twins fans be as angry? I know Derek
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  Speaker 2: Falvey put out a letter that this is a step
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  Speaker 2: to the World Series or whatever his letter said and
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  Speaker 2: signed it to all the Twin season ticket holders. But
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  Speaker 2: I mean they just got rid of They just cleaned house,
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  Speaker 2: right for a team that won a playoff series two
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  Speaker 2: years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean even with the Astros, you know that
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  Speaker 3: deal in a being between the pull Ad family and
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  Speaker 3: Jim Crane, it wasn't with the GMS. Is like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: you guys, are you know four hundretyllion dollars in debt.
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  Speaker 4: You guys really lost forty.
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  Speaker 3: Million dollars that you want to dump this contract and
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  Speaker 3: they just changed their minds, So okay, let's dump everybody.
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  Speaker 3: That's the biggest buyers sale in baseball history for a
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  Speaker 3: single day, as unbelievable. So, yeah, the Twins can't be
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  Speaker 3: sold fast enough. I mean, that franchise, They're ruined, that franchise,
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  Speaker 3: the polo Head family. They got to dump it fast
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  Speaker 3: because the public's got to be furious up there.
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  Speaker 5: I had read somewhere, and I've read too many different things,
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  Speaker 5: so I'm not sure where it came from. It said,
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  Speaker 5: had the Class A news come out about the nondisciplinary
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  Speaker 5: restriction list, had that not come out, would the Twins
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  Speaker 5: have still dumped the same amount of guys because they
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  Speaker 5: said it wasn't duran and then became way more valuable
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  Speaker 5: and they were able to start the cavalcade of just
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  Speaker 5: getting rid of money.
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't think that anything to do with thereic,
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  Speaker 4: you really don't.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was just a situation where once Jim
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  Speaker 3: Green called pole Ad and said, hey, you got to
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  Speaker 3: dump money in the front office. That kind of asked
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  Speaker 3: ownership and you want dump or not? And they said
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  Speaker 3: dump and they's ownership there kind of changed everybody's mind
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  Speaker 3: and said okay, let's stripped his franchise. So I mean
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  Speaker 3: it's totally helped. I mean, they got more for Derandi.
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  Speaker 3: I thought they would. That's why all these relievers got moved.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Athletics had no intention of training Mason Miller,
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  Speaker 3: but we that can return. You got no choice, so
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  Speaker 3: I used thinking it was an ownership decision, like let's
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  Speaker 3: stripped us, sing down the bones, and then not now
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  Speaker 3: we can sell the team for the price we want.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Bob.
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  Speaker 1: One more in the Astros that I thought you covered
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  Speaker 1: well was what didn't happen and their pursuit of Dylan Cease.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that was a hot topic for twenty four
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  Speaker 1: to forty eight hours and I saw your tweet after
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  Speaker 1: the trade deadline about the asking price. So can you
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  Speaker 1: tell us what happened there and your thoughts on if
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  Speaker 1: they should have tried to get it done?
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  Speaker 4: Well, they were in on it, and they were coming
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  Speaker 4: ouptimistic for a while.
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  Speaker 3: The Astros were then you know, they thought that the
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  Speaker 3: asking price changed and went from Spencerrighedty and three prospects.
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  Speaker 3: And then the astro's mind is like, wait a minute, now,
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  Speaker 3: we like ry Getty's going to come back. He's we
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  Speaker 3: like him. Ben and Dalton sees Cease is just a rental.
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  Speaker 3: So then became a no brainer to turn it down.
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  Speaker 3: And you know the potteris, you know, during the morning
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  Speaker 3: when they made that trade with Mason Miller, I think
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  Speaker 3: the speculation when a Zucky Cease goes because we don't
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  Speaker 3: have money, Suarez goes. They had no intention of Suarez.
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  Speaker 3: They were never trading him and they really didn't want
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  Speaker 3: to trade Cease either. They're really saying, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: our windows closing here. We got to go for this
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  Speaker 3: thing at least one more time.
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  Speaker 5: You had Reds on your winners list. Can you give
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  Speaker 5: us a little bit of an explanation of why you
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  Speaker 5: felt like the Reds were winners at the deadline.
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  Speaker 4: I just like the fact that they went for it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean not huge.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if the hitting coaches can turn around, get
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  Speaker 3: Brian Hayes, that's a big thing.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: The Diamacks were upset, they wanted to move you know,
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  Speaker 3: you Henny swar is there, so they got to you know,
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  Speaker 3: come on, you gonna take Haze over Suarez?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean not get Newly the attention they thought
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  Speaker 4: they would.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, just by getting uh, by getting him getting
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  Speaker 3: the outfillder helps to uh at least that they're going
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  Speaker 3: for it. And then they you know, of course got
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  Speaker 3: Paddick starting pitcher. So I like the fact that they
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  Speaker 3: didn't just sit pat like a lot of teams. They said,
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  Speaker 3: let's go for it.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't a massive, massive yet, but it was. It
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  Speaker 4: was nice. Additions, you mentioned Cabrian Hayes.
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  Speaker 2: Why why would the Reds take that contract with the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of years offensively that he's had, Why why
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  Speaker 2: did the Reds take that on?
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  Speaker 3: I think they're just hoping that we could we can
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  Speaker 3: turn around. Obviously they're playing a band boxing. If you
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  Speaker 3: can't in Cincinnati, you can't hit anywhere. But I think
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  Speaker 3: that you know, that starting rotation is so good and talented,
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  Speaker 3: it's like, let's help let's help them out with defense.
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  Speaker 3: Well turn that defense in a run prection that way.
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  Speaker 3: But I just I just think they think they can
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  Speaker 3: turn them around. Where if you're Pittsburgh, it was underwater
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  Speaker 3: contract dumb them from what they did so Pittsburgh was
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  Speaker 3: a static to move them.
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  Speaker 1: I want to hit some more teams on your losers list.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to the Red Sox, the Red Sox and Cubs.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, get bunched together. We're gonna cover them later.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get your take on those two and
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  Speaker 1: if you thought they were close to getting anything done
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  Speaker 1: and why they're so hesitant when they had prospect capital
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  Speaker 1: to make a move for a starting pitcher.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, teams hate done with the Red Sox.
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  Speaker 3: They said, just very tough to do with Breslo Diamondbacks,
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  Speaker 3: who had some momentum going with Merril Kelly and that
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  Speaker 3: fell apart to him.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they were ever really in on Joe Ryan.
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  Speaker 4: You know some report that was done.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure that even had conversations, But when you
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  Speaker 3: talk to gms around the game, said just very tough
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  Speaker 3: to deal with the Red Sox and Craig Breslow in particular.
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  Speaker 3: And if they're really going for itk you know they
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  Speaker 3: did a poor job because.
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  Speaker 4: The Yankees got a whole lot better.
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  Speaker 3: Blue Jay's got better, So I think they'll give me
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  Speaker 3: an outside of looking in, I think if that you
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  Speaker 3: didn't do anything they may be sitting home and the
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  Speaker 3: Texas Rangers take their places as a wildcard team.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well what about where Breslol came from the
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  Speaker 2: Cubby Bears. Well, I mean they made some minor moves.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't know, they made some smaller moves, but they
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  Speaker 2: didn't make it in the dfa Ryan Presley after the move,
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  Speaker 2: So what were they doing? Did Bresilo learn from Jed Hoyer?
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  Speaker 2: Like core prospects and the prospect has is worth ten
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars, so.
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  Speaker 4: We don't want to give up that ten thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 4: Like what the heck happened in Kubbyville?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, gims are asking us same like, how can you
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  Speaker 3: be all in to go get Kyle Tucker? Did the
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  Speaker 3: trade down the line and you've got a chance to
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  Speaker 3: be good and you have a chance for a World Series?
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  Speaker 3: You do absolutely nothing. So everybody's asking the same question.
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  Speaker 3: And then, you know, the one intriguing thing is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Jed Hoyer just gout's contract extension. If you had not
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  Speaker 3: got that extension, would he have been a lot more
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  Speaker 3: aggressive trying to you know, finish wrong, finish first place
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  Speaker 3: and going.
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  Speaker 4: Deep in October? Now you have security you're almost looking
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  Speaker 4: at your prospects like, you don't give me around for
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  Speaker 4: a couple of years. I don't want to trade those
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  Speaker 4: prospects away.
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  Speaker 3: So they went for a team that had, you know,
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  Speaker 3: may the best chance to be the World Series in
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  Speaker 3: National League. So you know, reality is probably only the
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  Speaker 3: fifth or sixth best team in the Nation League right now.
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  Speaker 5: The Giants, you have them on a loser list. Do
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  Speaker 5: you feel like maybe the trade deadline kind of snuck
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  Speaker 5: up on them because they've started to play poorly and
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  Speaker 5: they were like a team that got Rafael Devers, so
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  Speaker 5: it's like we must be in a buy mode and
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  Speaker 5: all of a sudden the poor play down the stretch
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  Speaker 5: kind of led to their eh kind of trade deadline.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, here's a month ago they're all in
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  Speaker 3: going for Devers and how gress is gonna be at
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  Speaker 3: their deadline and then just selling saying what we got
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  Speaker 3: no chance? Obviously, the Dominas contract so far has been disaster,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Berlin or has it worked out? They must
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  Speaker 3: really not have liked the ball for him, just you know,
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  Speaker 3: throw them away at the Yankees when he still has
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  Speaker 3: years of control.
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  Speaker 4: So it'll be interesting offseason. I think this can be
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  Speaker 4: interesting last two months.
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  Speaker 3: I know they just picked up the option of Bob
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  Speaker 3: Melvin's contract, but what they can do if they just
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  Speaker 3: keep playing this poorly down this wretch, that franchise could
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  Speaker 3: go either way as far as buyer sale. Because they
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  Speaker 3: didn't get much of the deadline at all in their moves.
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  Speaker 2: Bob, a couple other losers. They're close to each other,
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  Speaker 2: the Brewers who didn't do much. Yes, they got Andrew Vaughan,
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  Speaker 2: Priester Jansen. I get all that before the deadline, but
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  Speaker 2: I thought they had a chance to strike. And but
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  Speaker 2: the Cubs not doing much. They're in first place, but
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  Speaker 2: they could have maybe made a move. And in the
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  Speaker 2: team two hour south, the White Sox, we already talked
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  Speaker 2: kind of talked about Robert, but some of the other guys,
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  Speaker 2: Savallee could have been moved. There's some other guys. They
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  Speaker 2: probably could have made some moves for they did it.
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  Speaker 2: What happened to these two teams?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Brewers have used that you know, state pat.
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  Speaker 3: I mean every time we rip them, you know, they
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  Speaker 3: always take off, they always have a bad winner, and
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  Speaker 3: then you look up and they're in play in October.
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  Speaker 3: So I thought the their trade there to get Shelby
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  Speaker 3: Miller was almost a panic move, like, my guy, we
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  Speaker 3: better do something.
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  Speaker 4: It's gonna look stupid.
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  Speaker 3: So they took a lot of money and they took
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  Speaker 3: on Jordan Montgomery's contract too. You know, Dinebacks chipped in
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  Speaker 3: two million of it. But you know, just to to
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  Speaker 3: have Chelby Miller, who's a nice reliever but not you know,
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  Speaker 3: not a stud guy.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, I think.
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  Speaker 3: The Brewers fans, you know, frustration is that they always
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  Speaker 3: get in the playoffs, but they don't have that team
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  Speaker 3: to go all the way. So they're lucky. You know,
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  Speaker 3: the Cubs an't doing anything. They went to White Sox. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: to go back to you know, Luis Robert, just not
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  Speaker 3: trading him as a disaster. Should have got more for
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  Speaker 3: those guys.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you talk to gams.
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  Speaker 3: They get frustrated with Chris cats too, so you know
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  Speaker 3: they you know, they kind of stood pat. But I
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  Speaker 3: think the Robert thing, you know, they should have trained
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  Speaker 3: be the winner for one, they had a trail. Now
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they can pick up that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: that option. I think it's stupid to throw.
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  Speaker 4: Another twenty million dollars down the drain.
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  Speaker 3: If anybody thought he's any good, they would have you know,
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  Speaker 3: they would grabbed him. I mean they were begging the
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  Speaker 3: Philadelphia Phillies to trade him and trade to him, and
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  Speaker 3: the Phillies had no interest. I mean everybody sees the
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  Speaker 3: same thing. The guy rarely plays. I don't care how
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  Speaker 3: much doubt you have. You know, uh anthrow a. Don's
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  Speaker 3: got talent too, but he's not playing. What good is it?
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  Speaker 4: Agreed?
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  Speaker 5: Agreed?
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  Speaker 2: All right? One more on the Brewers. Why did they
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  Speaker 2: get the Montgomery? Did the Diamondbacks just want him out
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  Speaker 2: that quickly? Like the Diamondbacks were just like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: we're out of this. And the other thing for the
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  Speaker 2: Brewers is I know they got Vaughn and I know,
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  Speaker 2: you know again we'll go back to that. Vaughn's been
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  Speaker 2: great for him, but wasn't again Suarez would have looked
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  Speaker 2: so good in their in their uniform at third base,
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  Speaker 2: just for this year. And is making the playoffs enough
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  Speaker 2: for the Brewers to keep their fans happy because they
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  Speaker 2: make the playoffs losing the first round?
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  Speaker 4: Make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: I know they had the one deep rom but they
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  Speaker 2: make the playoffs losing the first round. Is that enough
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  Speaker 2: to keep the fans in Milwaukee happy.
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  Speaker 3: No, they were very upset during the spring because the
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  Speaker 3: didn't do it. They during the winners and what are
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  Speaker 3: we doing here? You know, let a Diamus walk drained
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  Speaker 3: away Devin Williams. But you know, God and they are
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  Speaker 3: still sitting in first place. But yeah, I think with
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  Speaker 3: the Montgomery thing, you know, he's done for the season.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we had Tommy John surgery. So all they did
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  Speaker 3: was okay, so we don't have to give a prospect
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  Speaker 3: back for Chelby Miller. We'll take on the money. So
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  Speaker 3: the Diamacks are just dumping payroll. Originally had diamondbacks in
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  Speaker 3: that list.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: You know they had a bad trade deadline too. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you had all these pieces. Zach Gallon never got any
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  Speaker 3: offers for him, really, so now they're they're stuck with him.
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  Speaker 3: They're trying to move him. I mean, they've got to
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  Speaker 3: give him qualifying offer just to keep him around. But
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  Speaker 3: they didn't get much at all for the other guys.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And they were stunned how the little action they got
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  Speaker 3: in Suarez. They wanted to move him desperately, but nobody
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  Speaker 3: was giving him anything.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't a good market for position players,
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  Speaker 4: as a few gams have told me, you know, in
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  Speaker 4: the trade deadline, you know, you never get much for
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  Speaker 4: position players. I mean when they J. D.
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  Speaker 3: Martinez got moved to Diamondbacks years ago and give up
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  Speaker 3: a bag of balls for the guy, so swore as
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  Speaker 3: they were very disappointed that the Yankees did go after him,
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  Speaker 3: and then when the Reds went to Hayes instead of
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  Speaker 3: going after him, that the market for him traded.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I'll bring up another team that I thought should
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  Speaker 1: have been involved for Gino Suarez. What did you think
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  Speaker 1: of the trade deadline for the Detroit Tigers. I saw
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  Speaker 1: a lot of quantity that would maintain depth for the
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  Speaker 1: next couple months. But are they aware that once you
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  Speaker 1: get to October, it's nice to have a high leverage arm,
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  Speaker 1: a right handed power bat. I just thought they missed
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: the boat for me.
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, me too, Gims.
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  Speaker 3: You talked to you know, echo the same sentiment, like,
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: here's a here was a team of chance to go
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: to the World Series, and you know you didn't get
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: that big time arm.
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: You know, it's an opportunity.
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: You're gonna have Scooba for one more year after this
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: and that's it, you know, Casey Miz is there flirty
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: flarity maybe walking after this year or too. So yeah,
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: I'm with you. And you know, the asking price for
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: Suarez was low. They should have grabbed Suarez even perfect there.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: I think too many teams were worried about Suarez batting emerges.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: They give me a streaky hitter, and you know defense
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: isn't you know, the best, But still to have a
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: power hitter like that, you know, thirty six home runs,
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: eighty seven ribies, you know it's a rare opportunity.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I agree Scott is that they should have done.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: More than that.
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: Obviously, I love division battles and when the trade deadline hits,
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: then National League East, the Mets in the Phillies, it's
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: a division battle to see who can win the division
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: and get that first round by who won out of
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: that out of the trade deadline, because the Mets added
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: more bullpen pieces plus that center fielder, and the Phillies
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: added their coveted closer, in my opinion, probably the best
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: closer available, plus plus they had you know, they have
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: years of control with them, and they got their centerfielder.
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: So who do you feel one between the two of those?
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: You know, I was lead for the Phillies until I
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: started talking to gms and they said, clearly the Mets.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: They like what the Mets did. In fact, they said,
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: went to Phillies, go get Cedric Mullins. He would have
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: been a lot better fit than Harrison Bader. They thought
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: the Phillies too, even though they made them big move
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: and Duran should have even got another reliever in there.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: I know they got David Roberts in, but you know
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: he's a grapshoot, who knows how he's gonna pitch, you know,
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: missing a entire season. People love that what the Mets did,
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: and you talk to gms, they say they already gave
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: up anything for what they got too, so they gave
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: a lot of great to David Stearns said he got
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: the most for giving up the little geez.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Well, he keep saying this was you know, no one
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: gave up anything except the Potters, the only person gave up.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: They got what seven big league players back, So you know,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: apparently you didn't have to give up much to get
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: a lot back, Bob. But I want to know you
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: keep saying some of these gms are difficult to deal with.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Is that because they're too afraid to lose a deal,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: and they're too afraid that their twenty ninth best prospect
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: is sometime, you know, five years from now going to
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: turn into a good player.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: I think that's it.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, look at a j Peller, I mean he
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: gave up you know, those guys that get Juan Soto.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: The trade was disaster. I mean, it wasn't a good
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: fit in the clubhouse. They didn't do anything with them,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: but at least they were able to flip them back.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: But you know, a j Peler has no regret for
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: making that move.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: You go for it.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: I mean even if you go back to the old
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: days when Detroit Tigers, you know when they traded John's
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: smallest to Atlanta for Joe Alexander Alexander exactly what they
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: wanted Raindy Johnson, exactly what Houston wanted that year.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: So yeah, too many teams are afraid of.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: That, and I think sometimes you know, these teams know
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: their prospects anybody else, even the great short stop that
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: the pottery's created to Seattle, I mean, trade it way
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: to the Athletics. They say, he's not a shortstop. He's
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: gonna have to play third base or first base. So
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: they know him anybody else, but they're not. They didn't
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: really blink about trading them.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get because AJ's are smart, Bob, don't ever
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: forget that ajs are the smartest people in the game.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, we know you are, we know you are.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: You earn your first He's in GM on TV, which
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: is great. It works out really well. You get all
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: the benefits and you don't have to listen to someone
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: above you.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Right, not bad.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: Sometimes I have to try to listen.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: That's true, and.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: That's a GM said. They say a lot of quantity
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: in this trade, but there wasn't that many quality of
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: prospects exactly. Inspect what people are saying they thought, maybe
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: like thank you. Really good players.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Have moved right right the top five for most teams.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: The contenders stays put. When I was looking the next day,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: here you're looking at Baseball America and cracking open the
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: prospect list. So hey, good job by them, Bob. Great
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: work yesterday. It was fun to follow. Thanks for hopping
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: on with us and everyone. Check out his Winners and
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Losers article, among other things. In USA Today always puts
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: out great notes on the weekend as well.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Thanks Bob. Thank you. Guys have great weekend.