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For Those About to Ragnarok, We Salute You · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 7: To your stations, we have a movie meltdown.
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  Speaker 5: Thor's my hero.
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  Speaker 1: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 8: I'm Jacqueline.
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  Speaker 9: I'm Phillip.
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  Speaker 10: I'm David.
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  Speaker 1: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from.
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  Speaker 8: Grendel's House of Horrors.
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  Speaker 1: Zuzu's House of Fun. I keep incorporating Zuzu. So we
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  Speaker 1: are back with another entry in the Super Series. It's
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  Speaker 1: not been that long. It's never very long these days.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of these movies. Before we fully get
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  Speaker 1: rolling on this one, usually we do something else. I'm sure. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: we kind of talked about it off air, which doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 1: If it's not on the show, it doesn't matter. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we actually watched the Black Panther trailer during the middle
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  Speaker 1: of our Halloween festivities. but we have not actually discussed
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  Speaker 1: it on the show, so do we want to geek
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  Speaker 1: out over Black Panther?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, all I'm doing is just shuddering and quaking
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  Speaker 8: and screaming at the thought. That sounds really graphic. I
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  Speaker 8: just mean I'm really excited about it.
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  Speaker 1: Do we need to hose you down at this point?
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  Speaker 1: All these hot dudes with their shirts off.
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  Speaker 8: I know.
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  Speaker 1: Which I can't argue, because both of our Panther guys
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  Speaker 1: are just super fucking ripped. It's ridiculous. So, I understand.
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  Speaker 9: They are some good looking fellas.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The Black Panther trailer played... immediately before the justice league
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  Speaker 3: trailer so i had this.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah oh yeah because i was i was excited when
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  Speaker 11: the black panther trailer started yeah and then i was
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  Speaker 11: let down when the justice league trailer got.
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  Speaker 6: Going and jumping out a few weeks i have never
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  Speaker 6: been to that later i have never been on such
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  Speaker 6: an emotional roller coaster for a movie that's not even
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  Speaker 6: out yet yeah i mean it's I'm going to go
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  Speaker 6: see it.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Gotta do our duty.
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  Speaker 9: I'm looking forward to it, yeah.
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  Speaker 10: I'm really curious to see what the fallout of everything
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  Speaker 10: with Whedon in there is going to be like. Is
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  Speaker 10: it going to feel different? Is it going to be
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  Speaker 10: bad or a good way? And just because it's going
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  Speaker 10: to be kind of pieced together too, right?
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  Speaker 1: Because he shot extra scenes.
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  Speaker 10: Half an hour was changed.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Half an hour like was like, new footage. Like, I
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  Speaker 10: know they tried to do that, oh, we're just doing
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  Speaker 10: some touch-up stuff. Just the extra drop-in shots. It was
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  Speaker 10: full-on new scripted stuff. So there is some massive swerve
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  Speaker 10: in this movie.
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  Speaker 1: That was right after Wonder Woman hit, too. So it's
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  Speaker 1: probably just like, oh, let's.
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  Speaker 10: Put a whole lot more Wonder Woman.
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  Speaker 3: You bring up a good point, because I thought, okay,
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  Speaker 3: with Wonder Woman, the bar's been set high again, so
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  Speaker 3: they've got nowhere to go but up. And then I
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  Speaker 3: watched that trailer, and I feel like DC and Warner
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  Speaker 3: Brothers have just given up on Justice League. They know
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  Speaker 3: that there's nothing they can do at this point.
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  Speaker 1: But they're so far in.
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  Speaker 3: And to back that up, in the theater lobby, there
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  Speaker 3: was a huge cardboard cutout of Justice League that the
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  Speaker 3: pictures of all the superheroes were so dark you could
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  Speaker 3: barely see.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like they're like, yeah, this movie's coming out.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not get too detailed on this.
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  Speaker 10: Just keep walking. They're keeping an embargo tight. I've heard
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  Speaker 10: they don't want the reviews out early.
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  Speaker 1: We saw it at the store.
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  Speaker 10: They release that stuff the next day. Because for as
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  Speaker 10: much shit as.
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  Speaker 3: We've talked about it and everybody else has been talking
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  Speaker 3: about it, you'd think if they had a good product
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  Speaker 3: on their hands, they'd want to be like, hey.
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  Speaker 9: Guys, check it out. It's going to be awesome.
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  Speaker 1: I had this delusional moment earlier today. I guess it
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  Speaker 1: was last week. And again, it's like internet. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was Facebook. And there's always, again, it reads my
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  Speaker 1: mind and my computer and knows the stuff that I'm
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  Speaker 1: constantly looking up anyway. So I think it was running
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  Speaker 1: some sort of photo of superheroes standing there. And like
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  Speaker 1: there was a half second in my head when I
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  Speaker 1: registered and wasn't really looking at it and was processing
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  Speaker 1: it in my head. And it was a shot of
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  Speaker 1: the gal version of Wonder Woman amongst the Avengers. And
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, Then I looked and it was
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  Speaker 1: Justice League. For a second, I'm like, how fucking awesome. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's Justice League. Damn it. Think about the.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, they can't just make it Wonder Woman 2.
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  Speaker 1: The Patty Jenkins version of Wonder Woman crammed in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the Joss version of the Avengers. Or even
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  Speaker 1: Russo Brothers. That's their future.
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  Speaker 10: I'm telling you, one day it can't... Money is just
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  Speaker 10: too big. One day DC and Marvel will be on
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  Speaker 10: the same ticket.
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  Speaker 3: One day.
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  Speaker 10: Like I said, back in the 90s they used to
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  Speaker 10: play nice and do crossovers. I don't know why it's
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  Speaker 10: so militant now. Because it would help everybody to put
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  Speaker 10: these guys together.
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  Speaker 8: They've been on the shit train for so long. It's
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  Speaker 8: kind of like So if you get kind of like
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  Speaker 8: your grade point average, you get Fs on every test,
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  Speaker 8: then you get a fucking A with Wonder Woman, but
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  Speaker 8: that's not going to bring your grade point average up enough.
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  Speaker 1: It's like now you got a D +. Congratulations.
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  Speaker 3: My fear is that Justice League is going to be
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  Speaker 3: so bad, and there's going to be so much negative
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  Speaker 3: press over it, that Warner Brothers is going to blame
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  Speaker 3: it somehow on Wonder Woman. And cancel any future Wonder Woman.
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  Speaker 9: Movies we might get.
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  Speaker 10: I think they gave up. From what I'm reading, it
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  Speaker 10: sounds like they're pretty much like, you know, these movies
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  Speaker 10: having anything to do with any of the other ones,
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  Speaker 10: fuck it. From what I'm understanding, now they're just like, we're.
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  Speaker 1: Just going to do Batman movies, plural.
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  Speaker 10: We're going to do Green Lantern movies, Superman movies, plural,
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  Speaker 10: and they don't have to do shit with each other.
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  Speaker 10: That's why we got like three Batman movies.
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  Speaker 1: Which maybe is a better idea.
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  Speaker 10: Joker origin, a black and white noir one, and they're
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  Speaker 10: still talking about doing something else with Ben Affleck. That'll
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  Speaker 10: be three Batman movies that have nothing to do with
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  Speaker 10: each other.
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  Speaker 1: Which, again, we brought this up, and it's funny, we
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  Speaker 1: didn't address it on the show, but that same thing
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  Speaker 1: is they're so desperate. Any of these studios or producers
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  Speaker 1: or whoever is behind all of these projects is so
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  Speaker 1: desperate to fling themselves at the idea of, of like
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  Speaker 1: what the Marvel universe is doing, but not going about it.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Because we talked about the dark universe already dying. I'm
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  Speaker 1: like one movie in essentially officially with the logo one movie.
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  Speaker 1: And then I went, no, it didn't work. Like really?
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  Speaker 1: Like you couldn't plan a little better and put a
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  Speaker 1: little extra work into it so that It wasn't just
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  Speaker 1: let's slap this together. So it was kind of that
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  Speaker 1: same thing with DC. They were just so desperate to
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  Speaker 1: be like, this is what they're doing over there. Let's
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  Speaker 1: do it over here too.
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  Speaker 8: There's some guy smacking about deadlines.
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  Speaker 3: On his desk.
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  Speaker 10: They focus on the weirdest things sometimes. Sometimes you really
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  Speaker 10: can see how CEOs and stuff are so out of touch.
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  Speaker 10: Because I remember when the Battleships movie came out. collapsed
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  Speaker 10: the ceo literally there was like a ceo that was
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  Speaker 10: quoted like saying something like i don't get it hasbro
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  Speaker 10: is so big like he literally said that he thought
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  Speaker 10: that it was it wasn't transformers it.
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  Speaker 1: Was shut down the chutes and ladders movie hold on.
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  Speaker 10: They were gonna make one oh i know i remember
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  Speaker 10: i remember we made fun of that because they thought
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  Speaker 10: it was hasbro and it's like what is in your
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  Speaker 10: head it's it's.
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  Speaker 1: Just name recognition that's all they want they don't care
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  Speaker 1: about story and this is why it's coming to eventually
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  Speaker 1: dawn on them I hope because you see it time
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  Speaker 1: after time you don't put any work on the screenplay
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  Speaker 1: you don't put any work in on the grand plan
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  Speaker 1: of what you're doing sometimes not even on directing or
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  Speaker 1: acting it's just name recognition dumb as audiences are sometimes
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  Speaker 1: in our country in the world Like, it doesn't always pan.
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  Speaker 1: I can't explain the Transformers thing because they're proving us
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  Speaker 1: wrong every time. And I'm just like, they're stupid. We
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  Speaker 1: all know they're stupid. Movie geeks make fun of how stupid.
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  Speaker 10: I put the Resident Evil movies right there with it
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  Speaker 10: where it's like, these are the worst movies ever, but
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  Speaker 10: they keep making more and more movies with each one.
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  Speaker 1: So like that, again, that's the one I'm referencing how
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  Speaker 1: dumb audiences can be. I'm like, we're fueling that nonsense.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know. I think that Transformers' success is in
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  Speaker 8: part due to branding. And they've sold the Transformers brand
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  Speaker 8: not just as a movie, but as a fashion choice.
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  Speaker 8: Kind of like how people get monster tattoos. Kind of
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  Speaker 8: like that. People get Transformers tattoos.
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  Speaker 1: Who are these people?
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  Speaker 8: They're a subset of the population. I would say that
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  Speaker 8: they are mostly like white, lower middle class. It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 12: Rednecks.
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  Speaker 8: But I'm not going to pass any moral judgment on
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  Speaker 8: these people. They just like what they like.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all see that truck turn into a robot?
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  Speaker 12: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 8: But it's not because of the movies. It's because of
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  Speaker 8: everything else.
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  Speaker 14: That they've done.
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  Speaker 3: But you just brought up a good point with that concept.
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  Speaker 1: How wrong can you go?
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  Speaker 3: Robots that turn into things and then cause havoc for
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  Speaker 3: two hours. Specifically. Specifically.
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  Speaker 1: But you've got planes and jukeboxes or whatever. We are
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  Speaker 1: the dumb kids that latched onto that the first time.
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  Speaker 1: I was just, that was the coolest thing ever. So like,
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  Speaker 1: it's not hard to make that awesome. It already is
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  Speaker 1: as a concept.
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  Speaker 3: All you have to do is put.
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  Speaker 1: A little work into it. Just a little screenplay.
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  Speaker 3: I spent three hours nonstop at work the other day
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  Speaker 3: singing the Transformers theme song.
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  Speaker 1: After all your co-workers killed themselves.
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  Speaker 3: But how can you mess up that concept? And then
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  Speaker 3: go on to make 30.
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  Speaker 9: Movies or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: I also think, and this is one that I think
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  Speaker 1: people overlook, or especially movie geeks who just like to
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  Speaker 1: bitch about the fact that, oh, the story's stupid. But
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  Speaker 1: here's how they always make money. national sales. Sure. When
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  Speaker 1: you get to a point where you're making movies that
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  Speaker 1: are so big and kind of, no offense, so dumb,
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  Speaker 1: they don't need to be translated to any other language.
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  Speaker 1: Explosions work around the world. Like you don't have to
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  Speaker 1: worry about, well, does this character study really work for
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  Speaker 1: what we're, no, it's just like you see big, dumb
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  Speaker 1: CG visuals, you see explosions. It works in any language
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  Speaker 1: it were. And like, overseas money makes, you know, again,
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  Speaker 1: you factor in all of the other countries, but it
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  Speaker 1: always dwarfs what the dumb American audiences are, so, especially
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  Speaker 1: on big dumb action movies, so I'm like, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's it, too, like, I think we're, we're leaving that
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  Speaker 1: part of it out, that, like, we still want a
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  Speaker 1: good script and good character development, but, That doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: to factor in when we're talking about just stuff you're
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  Speaker 1: trying to sell the world. And again, it's really hard
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  Speaker 1: when you have a really wordy, you know, complicated plot
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  Speaker 1: to then translate to other cultures and other languages where
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  Speaker 1: if it's really dumb, it's really easy to translate to anybody, anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: So I think we, again, I think movie geeks kind
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  Speaker 1: of forget that too.
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  Speaker 10: I think that's the money at the end of this rainbow.
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  Speaker 10: I think it should have been a Pixar CGI kind
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  Speaker 10: of thing.
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  Speaker 3: But then, with everything you just said, you come back
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  Speaker 3: to the movies that we're talking about now, the Marvel movies.
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  Speaker 3: They figured out how to make it work. You still
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  Speaker 3: get a big, fun movie.
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  Speaker 1: They have a huge overseas box office. And it's a.
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  Speaker 3: Movie that you're entertained from start to finish with.
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  Speaker 9: And sure, there's maybe no.
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  Speaker 3: No great importance there other than it's just.
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  Speaker 1: Like, sometimes I feel like there's a little, there's a little, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But again, I think it's just people putting work into
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  Speaker 1: it versus not, you know, it's just like, if, if
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  Speaker 1: you have a good concept and you're actually willing to
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  Speaker 1: put some work into it, but I feel like it's not,
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  Speaker 1: that's not what's going on with a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: big dumb action.
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  Speaker 10: So would you hear that? Uh, I just saw this
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  Speaker 10: today and I didn't even really get the reader read it,
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  Speaker 10: It was just, I don't think it was clickbait. Apparently
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  Speaker 10: Disney is bidding on Fox.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 10: So that's official. We might get the X-Men and Fantastic
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  Speaker 10: Four back then. Yes. If that goes through, there's your next.
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  Speaker 10: What did I say before? Your next huge wave is X-Men.
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  Speaker 10: You do exactly what you did with the Avengers, but
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  Speaker 10: with X-Men, there's your next 20 years, period.
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  Speaker 1: What I've said many times in recent years, like, always
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  Speaker 1: kind of bank on Disney. They've got the pocketbook to
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  Speaker 1: back everything up. And they have, again, in recent years,
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  Speaker 1: they've gotten pretty smart about letting people figure out how
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: to do what works for this little section of things
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  Speaker 1: that we own. Pixar knows how to run itself. Leave
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  Speaker 1: them alone. Star Wars knows how to run itself. Leave
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  Speaker 1: them alone.
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  Speaker 3: You can talk shit about Disney for days, but at
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  Speaker 3: the end of the day, they do have a standard
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  Speaker 3: for releasing.
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  Speaker 9: quality product.
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  Speaker 1: They kind of always did there was that lull in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of their own animated which again they changed
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  Speaker 1: ceos several times during that run but when they were
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: making like bad straight to vhs sequels to their classics
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  Speaker 1: like that was the low point for them but once
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  Speaker 1: they came back from that and they started acquiring products
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  Speaker 1: starting with like the muppets like that was kind of
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: the first property they bought that was like No, that's
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  Speaker 1: a good idea. Like, Jim Hintze knew what he was doing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but we could talk for a long time about
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  Speaker 3: that lull that even the Muppets had.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, that was part of his, like, Jim's
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  Speaker 1: plan was like, I know I want to leave it
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  Speaker 1: to somebody who's going to take care of my creation
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  Speaker 1: in Disney. Like, always kind of... Even when they're at
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: their desperate point, they still kind of have a level
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  Speaker 1: of above and beyond your straight-to-video crap or many things
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  Speaker 1: that make it to theaters now for kids.
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  Speaker 3: And everyone was so negative when they took over Star Wars,
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  Speaker 3: but look at the two movies.
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  Speaker 9: That have come out so far.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they know what they're doing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, yes, Disney, please buy Fox.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I flip-flopped when they got Marvel. I think it
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  Speaker 10: was after the first couple Marvel movies under Disney.
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  Speaker 9: I was like, oh.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, cool.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Like, you trust your artist? Like, I'm completely on board.
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  Speaker 10: You completely let them do what they want to do.
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  Speaker 10: It didn't seem like it was.
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  Speaker 1: They still have their thumb in that pie pretty heavily. Sure.
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  Speaker 1: But again, they're also not stupid. Like, they don't want
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  Speaker 1: it spiraling out of control.
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  Speaker 3: They know how to take characters that have already been
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  Speaker 3: established and keep that... Because that's what they've been doing
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  Speaker 3: for a hundred years now, almost.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they know how to keep that going and
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  Speaker 3: keep people happy, so.
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  Speaker 14: Again, eventually they will own everything, I'm pretty sure.
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  Speaker 8: I'm just hoping that DC and Marvel will come together
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  Speaker 8: before they start trying, if they ever do start trying
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  Speaker 8: to tackle more like Vertigo.
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  Speaker 9: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 10: I'm like, please don't ruin those.
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  Speaker 1: Don't even be talking.
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  Speaker 10: About Sandman because every five years there's rumors and whispers,
• 16:12
  Speaker 10: and especially with American Gods, and now they're doing Good Omens.
• 16:18
  Speaker 10: so it's that's another neil gaiman thing so it's like
• 16:20
  Speaker 10: and you just keep hearing those whispers that sandman's coming
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  Speaker 10: i'm like you are going to make me cut myself
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  Speaker 10: like you have.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: To handle that one everyone who reads that would be
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  Speaker 1: utmost delicacy or i will kill people like that.
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  Speaker 10: Is above all stories seriously above all stories sandman is
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  Speaker 10: like so dear to me so like That kind of
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  Speaker 10: scares me.
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  Speaker 1: There's times when it's just like.
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  Speaker 10: I'd love to see a lot of vertical stuff, but
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  Speaker 10: I'll be so critical.
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  Speaker 8: If they do drop those. That's what I've been waiting
• 16:48
  Speaker 8: for for a long time is for more of that
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: slightly more avant-garde.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Well, a solid Constantine.
• 16:55
  Speaker 10: A solid Constantine would have been great.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Hellblazer. It's coming back.
• 17:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Maybe we do it right
• 17:03
  Speaker 10: going forward. That's a great doorway into the vertical world.
• 17:07
  Speaker 10: That would be an awesome introduction character for that. I
• 17:11
  Speaker 10: did not mind the Constantine movie.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: It's one of those everybody, I just was listening to
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: somebody talk about that.
• 17:16
  Speaker 10: I love so many characters in it. The devil in
• 17:19
  Speaker 10: it was so incredible.
• 17:22
  Speaker 9: You put that guy in security camera footage.
• 17:24
  Speaker 10: Oh, man.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: You got something worth watching.
• 17:27
  Speaker 10: There's so much great stuff in there.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: They were categorizing it as a good movie that's a
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: bad transfer.
• 17:34
  Speaker 12: Yes.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: And they were like, that's like its own subsection now
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: of like, They aren't a good representation of their property,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: but they somehow come out being their own thing.
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: What year was that? Oh, man.
• 17:47
  Speaker 9: 90s, right?
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: Because it was very stylized in the back. I think
• 17:51
  Speaker 8: it was early 2000s.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think it was post-Matrix.
• 17:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it was post-Matrix.
• 17:56
  Speaker 9: I think so, too.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Plus, there's a lot of stuff going on in that
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: story that you can't really cram into.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Again, that's one of those that's hard to do a movie. Like,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: maybe a trilogy or make it a series now.
• 18:07
  Speaker 10: Or if you do it a TV show, how about
• 18:08
  Speaker 10: you don't try to take something that should be not
• 18:10
  Speaker 10: rated and make it PG?
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Because I thought.
• 18:12
  Speaker 10: That guy was great as Constantine if he would have
• 18:15
  Speaker 10: been chain smoking, but you can't even let him smoke?
• 18:17
  Speaker 10: You want to do Hellblazer, but you don't want to
• 18:20
  Speaker 10: have cigarettes?
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Smoking is uncool, man. What are you doing?
• 18:23
  Speaker 10: You have no chance then. Demon possession, but don't let
• 18:26
  Speaker 10: him smoke.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Okay that's fine with me between the two i'll take demon.
• 18:30
  Speaker 10: Position i guess we can't have any projectile vomit either
• 18:33
  Speaker 10: spinning heads.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Well yes but it has to be like you know
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: organic pea soup gluten-free gluten-free artisan pea soup.
• 18:46
  Speaker 10: Free range range free range peas no that'd be exciting
• 18:50
  Speaker 10: if they they picked up fox um As a comic
• 18:53
  Speaker 10: geek anyway, because he had to see X-Men come back
• 18:55
  Speaker 10: and to see... I don't even care at this point
• 18:57
  Speaker 10: about Fantastic Four, but they have Doom back just in time.
• 19:00
  Speaker 8: I care about Fantastic Four. I care about them having.
• 19:03
  Speaker 10: I just had my heart broken so many times.
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: I just want to see a good Silver Surfer. That's
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: all I want.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: We had a good Silver Surfer. We just didn't have
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: a good movie maybe that went around. I barely remember
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the movie, but... You know, Doug's an awesome zombie.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I would like to see a Fantastic Four movie with
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: a thing that doesn't look like a big pile of crap.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, Roger Corman is a great... Yeah, again,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: recently they were like, the Roger Corman Fantastic Four. Not
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: the worst Fantastic Four movie.
• 19:33
  Speaker 12: Seriously.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Think about that.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: And if you look at that, I don't want to
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: call it a film, but if you look at that.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Hey, he made classics.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: True, but if you look at all four of the characters,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: the thing is the only... least ridiculous looking one out
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: of the four of them.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, flame on.
• 19:59
  Speaker 10: It had to be a matter of time when you
• 20:00
  Speaker 10: think about it. Not that Fox is all X-Men and
• 20:03
  Speaker 10: Fantastic Four, but the Marvel comics have been shutting it
• 20:08
  Speaker 10: down for 20 years now. They've literally killed off or
• 20:12
  Speaker 10: exiled every Fantastic Four and X-Men character pretty much. All
• 20:16
  Speaker 10: your classic X-Men people are dead now. Fantastic Four don't
• 20:18
  Speaker 10: even have their own comic. Marvel's been sitting on this
• 20:21
  Speaker 10: forever like, give us these rights back. They don't even
• 20:24
  Speaker 10: exist anymore. We haven't even been drawing these guys anymore.
• 20:27
  Speaker 10: You still hold on so tight to the movies.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: They're so weird with Fantastic Four because I feel like
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: it didn't even ever cross over into the pop culture.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: At least X-Men did. It hit. It was huge. But
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: most normal people would be lucky to even ID the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: four people in Fantastic Four. Even if they've seen the movies,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I bet they'd get halfway in and go, um, is
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: there a robot? you know they just like it's just
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: it never really clicked with normal people so like the
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: fact that they're still like so protective of that I
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: don't understand why you'd think they just want to sell
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: it to somebody who could make it work but again
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: it may just be money for them which is not
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: what comic fans want but man if.
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: You could get like Galactus and the Avengers like that would.
• 21:13
  Speaker 10: Be yeah like Definitely, like, use, well, I guess they're
• 21:19
  Speaker 10: kind of doing it on TV, but you use Fantastic
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: Four to introduce the Kree and to introduce, like, Galactus
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: and these big sentient people and have Silver Surfer. There's
• 21:27
  Speaker 10: so much. Basically, what Guardians of the Galaxy is doing
• 21:30
  Speaker 10: is what Fantastic Four should have been doing.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:32
  Speaker 10: Should have ran into the Guardians while doing that stuff.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Even this movie, with Thor, there were a couple of
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: pretty obscure characters that they i.
• 21:41
  Speaker 10: Love that beta ray bill was on the tower that
• 21:43
  Speaker 10: makes me so happy that beta ray bill was on
• 21:46
  Speaker 10: the tower already once today from someone so obviously that's
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: not a deep cut but that's a geek cut like
• 21:52
  Speaker 10: people have a love hate with beta ray and i
• 21:54
  Speaker 10: thought beta ray bill was pretty cool so i thought
• 21:56
  Speaker 10: that was pretty awesome that they put him on the
• 21:57
  Speaker 10: building like he had fought there and stuff so i
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: would be excited if he took the hammer later i
• 22:03
  Speaker 10: heard there's rumors that In the next phase, they might
• 22:07
  Speaker 10: do some gender swapping, since that's what's been happening.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: In the comics a lot. Yeah, the comics.
• 22:11
  Speaker 10: They're switching Thor over to a female Thor.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: That's kind of what I wondered what they're going for.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Well, I wondered about that with Logan, because there was
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: the girl who has the.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Wolverine powers, and there's a female Wolverine. She is confirmed
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: to get a movie. They are doing.
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: I don't think they've confirmed to actress yet, but I
• 22:28
  Speaker 10: think they've confirmed that Laura's character is getting a movie
• 22:31
  Speaker 10: directly connected to Logan.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Hmm.
• 22:33
  Speaker 10: But I don't think they've confirmed that that little girl's
• 22:35
  Speaker 10: playing her. So we don't know if she'll be older
• 22:37
  Speaker 10: or not.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: There's any number of directions you could.
• 22:40
  Speaker 10: Go with that.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: That's kind of what I'm like. It is from that
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: cinematic version of it or the comic version. Because that's
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: what I said. I think it's the cinematic. But I
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: think they're still doing some new mutant stuff.
• 22:49
  Speaker 10: With it, right?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: At the end, we kind of don't know where it's going.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: So you really could take that story and run with
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: it in a weird sort of post-apocalyptic, but not really.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Just normal modern day society. like, world that now doesn't
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: have the old mutants, but this is some new breed
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: of mutant. So you can kind of run with that story.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: It's going to get confusing.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well.
• 23:09
  Speaker 10: For the average person.
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: It all is already.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: It's already massively. Although that new show isn't bad. What
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I've been watching of it.
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: I watched the first episode.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Or the one of the two. I guess. First one in.
• 23:21
  Speaker 10: Minutes is also on.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I have not seen any of that. But the Gifted,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I've actually seen several episodes and, like, kind of liked
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: it i again it's getting massively confusing but i try
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to just put all of that out of my head
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and be like let's just focus on these characters is
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: that the one legion isn't canon but apparently gifted is
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: canon gifted is going to be canon to to the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: next x-men movie but it still doesn't even make like
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: again i've watched a.
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: Do you remember the 4400? Did you watch that show?
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: No, I remember it being on.
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: The 4400 did what the beginning of X-Men should have done.
• 24:02
  Speaker 10: Because it's not like you have superheroes out the gate.
• 24:06
  Speaker 10: You have this air of the powers showing up in
• 24:09
  Speaker 10: people and How does the world and the government deal
• 24:11
  Speaker 10: with that? That's a huge question. In an X-Men comic,
• 24:14
  Speaker 10: those are usually the biggest. Yes, every now and then, Magneto,
• 24:16
  Speaker 10: where someone comes along. But most of X-Men is the
• 24:20
  Speaker 10: government wants to do this, or United Nations wants to
• 24:22
  Speaker 10: do this, or this city is doing this, or the
• 24:24
  Speaker 10: people are doing this. It's the person on person. And
• 24:27
  Speaker 10: I feel like Gifted wants to do that, but it's...
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: It's still not relatable enough. It doesn't feel small town
• 24:33
  Speaker 10: enough still to me. It still feels too kind of big.
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: It should be kids getting bullied. He does get bullied
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: at school, but ridiculous ways.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Not over the top.
• 24:41
  Speaker 10: Killing him in a locker room. They practically killed a kid.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: We're not saying murder. That's kind of how bullying goes
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: at this point. It's been dialed up to 11 like
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: everything else. Again, it almost immediately left that from what
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: little of them I've seen. They're already in a much bigger...
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: thing with the government chasing them and they're like all
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: these mutants are now involved so it's yeah it's already
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: escalated well beyond the high school small town thing so
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: it's a shame It's still got potential.
• 25:13
  Speaker 10: The early X-Men. I would have liked to have seen
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: a whole emphasis on just the Sentinels. Not even a
• 25:18
  Speaker 10: bad guy. It was like, here's a government, and we
• 25:20
  Speaker 10: have Sentinels. Not something that happens at the end in
• 25:22
  Speaker 10: a stadium, but that's the story. We've got to be
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: strong enough to beat these big, purple, Godzilla-sized things. That
• 25:29
  Speaker 10: could be a whole movie in itself. They kind of
• 25:33
  Speaker 10: take those kind of things that were, to me, so
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: exciting in the comic and make them just throwaways.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:39
  Speaker 10: You know, to cement a plot or something. I don't know.
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: I think if Marvel gets it, though, you can definitely
• 25:45
  Speaker 10: plan on 10, 15, 20 years of a slow trip
• 25:49
  Speaker 10: with X-Men the same way they did with Avengers.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've been doing it anyway. So, like, if, yeah,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: if they have some new way to revitalize it or
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: just pump a bunch of new money into it, I'm
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: sure they will.
• 26:01
  Speaker 10: Can you imagine recasting all those guys again?
• 26:04
  Speaker 14: We just did all that.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. All right.
• 26:11
  Speaker 14: I think we should take our break and come back
• 26:14
  Speaker 14: with this week's super movie.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: All the life she has seen, oh the meanest side
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: of me.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: They took away the prophet's dream, for a prophet.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: On the street. Now she's stronger than you know, her heart.
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: Of steel starts to grow.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: All his life he's been told, he'll be nothing when
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: he's old.
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: All the kicks and all the.
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: Blows, he won't ever let it show.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Because he's stronger than you know. A heart of steel
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: starts to grow. When you've been.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Fighting for it all your life. You've been struggling to
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: make things right. That's how a superhuman starts to fly.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Every day, every hour, every day. When you've been fighting
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: for it all your life.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: You've been working every day and night.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: That's how a superhuman starts to fly.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: And now, meet the star of our show. Symbol of
• 27:45
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• 28:29
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• 28:31
  Speaker 13: With Cinemagic, you are actually on the first rocket ride
• 28:34
  Speaker 13: to Mars in the Angry Red Planet.
• 28:37
  Speaker 15: You feel the dizzying heights of their fantastic city of
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• 28:41
  Speaker 13: You'll shiver as you ride the River of the Dead.
• 28:44
  Speaker 15: Your depth perception will increase a thousandfold as you look
• 28:47
  Speaker 15: into the waters that lead to foreverness.
• 28:49
  Speaker 13: And the terrors you meet on Mars are beyond man's imagination.
• 28:53
  Speaker 15: The Rat Bat Spider.
• 28:56
  Speaker 13: So real in Cinemagic, you'll feel the crazed stare of
• 29:00
  Speaker 13: its blinded eyes, the tearing shock of its iron claws.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: The giant amoeba.
• 29:07
  Speaker 13: Like an earth germ only a hundred million times larger.
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  Speaker 15: Thrills, shocks, terrors, and your first glimpse of the life
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• 29:31
  Speaker 1: So, you guys know we're broke, right? We're always broke.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I know. And yet we're trying to put this show together.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Now how the hell can we keep the show rolling
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: if we're broke and we.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Can't do this?
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: Sell special fiddle foul.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Oh. Or instead, murder people. Are you just taking random
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: money out of their pockets?
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Hopefully it won't come to that. Especially if they're peeping.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Some people will get on board with this.
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: Get on board with what?
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: The new Movie Meltdown Patreon page. And what is this?
• 30:14
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• 30:24
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• 30:27
  Speaker 14: I didn't get a decoder ring.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: You're not part of the club.
• 30:29
  Speaker 14: I'm never part of the club.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: You're part of the secret circle, though. It's okay. But
• 30:35
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• 30:41
  Speaker 14: I think you should do it right now.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Right now?
• 30:42
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• 30:49
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• 30:56
  Speaker 1: That's a really high level. I'll have to figure out
• 31:00
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• 31:03
  Speaker 1: above platinum. We'll have to see. What is above platinum?
• 31:08
  Speaker 14: Titanium.
• 31:09
  Speaker 12: Titanium.
• 31:10
  Speaker 15: Really?
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's a step below. I don't know.
• 31:13
  Speaker 14: We'll have to see.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Aluminium level. That's way below. Not if you say it fancy.
• 31:19
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 31:20
  Speaker 12: Unobtainium.
• 31:22
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• 31:24
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• 31:46
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• 32:08
  Speaker 5: Hey, this is Doug Jones from the Hellboy movies and
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: the Silver Surfer and Pan's Labyrinth and Hocus Pocus, Falling
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Skies and so much more. But today you are listening
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  Speaker 2: Get more out of life.
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  Speaker 12: Go out to a movie.
• 32:48
  Speaker 10: So much has happened since I last saw you.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: I lost my hammer, like yesterday, so that's still pretty fresh.
• 32:57
  Speaker 10: And then I went on a journey of self-discovery.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Where I met you.
• 33:15
  Speaker 12: Where are we? You have no idea. Hello, the goddess
• 33:21
  Speaker 12: of death has invaded Asgard.
• 33:23
  Speaker 10: Oh, I've missed this.
• 33:27
  Speaker 12: And you and I had a fight recently.
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: Did I win?
• 33:33
  Speaker 12: No, I won easily.
• 33:34
  Speaker 10: Doesn't sound right.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Well, it's true.
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: Asgard is dead.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: And it will be reborn in my image. I thought
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: you'd be glad to see me.
• 33:49
  Speaker 12: We need to stop her here and now.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: To prevent Ragnarok, the end of everything. So they're putting
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: together a team.
• 34:00
  Speaker 12: Like the old days.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Surprise!
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: This will be such fun.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Hello! He's a fighter. Here we go!
• 34:28
  Speaker 13: I'm not a queen or a monster.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: I'm the goddess of death.
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: What were you the god of again?
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: We're the same, you and I.
• 34:52
  Speaker 12: Just a couple of hot-headed fools.
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, same. Hulk like fire, Thor like water.
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: Well, we're kind of both like fire.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: But Hulk like raging fire, Thor like smoldering fire. I mean,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I kind of, well, no, there's times when I have
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: taken it, but this time I was like, I don't know.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I was just kind of on board and watching it.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: And like, I went to like write stuff down afterwards
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and I was like, It wasn't until today I started
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: getting this stuff ready. I'm like, okay, there's at least
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: a few things I want to hit, but I don't know.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: If the pacing of.
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: The movie were different, maybe I would have, but generally
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: I don't. I won't even take out my phone for
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: like a second.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Definitely not. That's why if you're a paper and pen nerd,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 36:01
  Speaker 10: I completely power my phone off now. Even if it
• 36:05
  Speaker 10: causes a vibration sound in the theater, I feel like
• 36:08
  Speaker 10: an asshole.
• 36:10
  Speaker 13: Shut up.
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: I feel like an asshole because I... My movie snack
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: is nachos.
• 36:16
  Speaker 10: And I hate... Just like crunching the whole time.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: That's when we need that special sound poof poof.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: The problem though with the nachos is... I get the
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: nachos and I'm like, okay, wait for the trailers to
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: be through.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I'm going to eat one.
• 36:31
  Speaker 9: Oh, I have never.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: I'll eat another one.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I never.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: And they're not even done with like the previews.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I feel like you still have free reign during the trailers.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I never make it through the previews.
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: Before finishing my nachos.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Previews, yeah, you can make a little more noise. All right,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: we are back. And this week we have gone out
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: on the town as.
• 36:51
  Speaker 14: We seem to do with many of these superhero movies.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: So this week's out of the town feature is Thor
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: colon Ragnarok. The year is 2017. Is it?
• 37:01
  Speaker 10: Because apparently it's 1980.
• 37:03
  Speaker 9: Wait, do I?
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I'll get into that later.
• 37:06
  Speaker 10: It's just the movie is so 80s that I was
• 37:08
  Speaker 10: just like.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: A little bit.
• 37:09
  Speaker 10: Is this the future or is it the 80s?
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: A little bit.
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: A little bit.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: And the director, I went out of my way to
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: get it right.
• 37:17
  Speaker 14: Watiti.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Taika Waititi.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Titi.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I was working on Taika.
• 37:25
  Speaker 10: He said Taika.
• 37:27
  Speaker 9: I'll be mature now.
• 37:28
  Speaker 10: I doubt it.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: The plot, according to IMDb, and it's, this one's actually, like,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's just badly worded and wrong. This one, somebody's
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: trying really hard. Imprisoned, the almighty Thor finds himself in
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: a lethal gladiatorial contest against the Hulk His former ally.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Thor must fight for survival and race against time to
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: prevent the all-powerful Hela from destroying his home and the
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Asgardian civilization. somebody put a lot of time maybe a
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: little too much into that.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's true but there's so much it's
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: just more than the word and yet there's.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Nine million other things going on so with that spoiler
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: alert i'm sure we're gonna ruin everything so go watch.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: It since you already brought it up can we go
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: ahead and jump to the hulk like the intro of
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: the hulk in the movie Well, that's the thing.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: It's funny how much they still.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Pretend like we don't know he's coming right like they
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: set up the marketing themselves but then it's like the
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: director isn't involved with the marketing so like he still
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: paces it like it's thor by himself on a planet
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna be that the whole movie which is
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: kind of what they said the story was originally gonna
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: be there was no hulk on this even though they
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: stole the planet hulk idea it was just supposed to
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: be thor by himself at one point in the storytelling
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: process But it's funny how far in we go before
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: there's any hint that any of this is, I mean,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: it really is him just busting out.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: But that's my.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Thing, though.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Because they bombarded us with that in the marketing, I
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: kind of wish, like, when we got to that scene,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: I was like, I really wish I didn't know that
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: the Hulk is.
• 39:23
  Speaker 9: About to bust out.
• 39:23
  Speaker 10: Can you imagine that reveal?
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God, I would have shat myself. It would
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: be pretty amazing. Which again, but I mean, how many
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: people might not have gone? That's true.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: And that is what won me over, because Thor movies
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: in the past, okay, whatever. I mean, I don't have
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: a problem with Thor, but the last two movies have
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: been like, yeah, okay. This one, When I saw that
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: in the trailer, it's like, well, I got to go.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: I got to go see this now.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I think I said that on one of these episodes
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: in the past. I saw that trailer and went, you know,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I saw the Hulk part, and I was like, this
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: looks like fun. I want to go see it. Like,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: the dark world, I could care less. I didn't even
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: see it in the theater, which is saying a lot. But, like,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I watched it on DVD months after it was, you know,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, I guess I need to watch
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: this now. But, like, I just was not excited by it.
• 40:13
  Speaker 10: Either of the first two really i think that they
• 40:16
  Speaker 10: didn't know where they were going i think the first
• 40:18
  Speaker 10: one had a very hard shakespearean thing going on and
• 40:21
  Speaker 10: they they had a plan the second one it was
• 40:24
  Speaker 10: like what are we doing the second one really like.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: It's totally free for all yeah like.
• 40:29
  Speaker 10: Nothing really like no one had any integrity to their
• 40:32
  Speaker 10: character anymore they're kind of really just getting blurry and
• 40:34
  Speaker 10: it's like who's who's what what huh Well, I think.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: The second one only existed because they're like, well, we
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: can't have a third one without a second one. And
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: God forbid you make.
• 40:43
  Speaker 10: One of these movies and not make a trilogy. Well,
• 40:44
  Speaker 10: they did have to tell the story of the stone.
• 40:45
  Speaker 10: And like I said, that doesn't justify the movie. But
• 40:49
  Speaker 10: the Red Infinity Stone story is that movie. And we
• 40:51
  Speaker 10: didn't have to know where that one was. But man,
• 40:54
  Speaker 10: write a story around it. It was weird. So much
• 40:57
  Speaker 10: of it being Jane playing with science and playing Portal.
• 41:00
  Speaker 10: And I'm like, is this Thor or not?
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: What is going on? Well, I think that became part
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: of it, too. It's just like we had, I think we...
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: That's kind of when it hit. Like those first couple,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: you know, Iron Man did okay. Hulk didn't really. And
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: then like they were still kind of finding their footing.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, that was when it was like, well, okay,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: this idea of doing the Avengers seems like it might
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: actually come together. But we need some more movie. Like
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: we can't just go, you know, it's like once we
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: got the Avengers together, it's like, well, now we got
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: to keep this series going. We got to come up
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: with more solo stories for it. So I feel like
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: that was one that was just sort of slapped one
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: together because we need another solo movie after the Avengers.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I think Captain.
• 41:40
  Speaker 10: America proves that because when you look at Captain America's
• 41:42
  Speaker 10: trilogy and it's fucking airtight.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 41:45
  Speaker 10: And you're like, you knew exactly what you were doing
• 41:48
  Speaker 10: with this guy. You look at, and Iron Man movies
• 41:50
  Speaker 10: are fun and or good, but they didn't have that
• 41:52
  Speaker 10: focus with.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Iron Man even.
• 41:54
  Speaker 10: Like, you look at his, like, these are very standalone-ish.
• 41:55
  Speaker 9: Well, that was still early.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Winter Soldier plays the fuck out.
• 41:58
  Speaker 9: Oh, Winter Soldier was just incredible.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: But yeah, with this one, it was a lot of fun.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: And you get to that point, you know what's coming,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: and it comes out. And I have to say that
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: the Hulk looks amazing. As much as I've complained about
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: all CGI characters before, this time, he finally looks good.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: They've done pretty good with him. I've been surprised even
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: going back to the first of it. But definitely, I've
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: re-watched Age of Ultron recently, and I'm like, It's also
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: amazing how much they've made it where he does look
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: like the Hulk, but he still looks like Mark Ruffalo.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like Mark Ruffalo.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: And I'm just like, that's amazing that they've gotten that
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: good at it, that it doesn't betray what we want
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: from the Hulk, but it does match the actor.
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: And earlier on, they knew their limitations, so they had
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: him in the dark.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: Far away.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 42:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah, like him in the saun or whatever, the hot tub.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now we get to see the whole thing.
• 42:57
  Speaker 10: I didn't even know he was.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: There at first.
• 42:58
  Speaker 10: I'm like, oh, is he in?
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 43:00
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 43:00
  Speaker 10: They kept that scene real dark with him.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: In the water.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: But it gives me hope.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Maybe we'll finally get a good Hulk movie.
• 43:05
  Speaker 10: Well, the word on the street is that because of
• 43:09
  Speaker 10: Universal's license, they can't title movies to Hulk.
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 43:14
  Speaker 10: But they can use the character all they fucking want.
• 43:17
  Speaker 10: So apparently Thor Ragnarok is technically the Thor's first trilogy movie.
• 43:22
  Speaker 10: And he'll be in the next Galaxies movie and one
• 43:25
  Speaker 10: of the Infinity Wars. And somehow those three movies are
• 43:29
  Speaker 10: going to tell a Hulk story.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Even the Incredible Hulk movie, the first one that counts,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: was before they got bought out. So I guess that's
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: why they could still use it.
• 43:38
  Speaker 8: Can they call it Baylor or no?
• 43:42
  Speaker 10: I don't think so. I think that's why he died
• 43:45
  Speaker 10: in this one. I mean, when he fell on the
• 43:47
  Speaker 10: bridge and turned, you got that Banner's dead, right? Remember
• 43:51
  Speaker 10: he said, if I turn into Banner again, I'm done.
• 43:55
  Speaker 10: That's that choice he made when he jumped off. You know,
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: they did it with humor. And having him splat on
• 44:00
  Speaker 10: the bridge, that was Banner giving up to the Hulk.
• 44:02
  Speaker 10: He's supposed to be nothing but the Hulk going forward.
• 44:05
  Speaker 10: And I don't know if that is because of a
• 44:07
  Speaker 10: licensing thing with the name Banner. But like I said,
• 44:10
  Speaker 10: everything I've read and seen is there's a Hulk Quoties
• 44:13
  Speaker 10: trilogy that's going to be snuck in. three other movies,
• 44:18
  Speaker 10: and this was the first one, but that he will
• 44:19
  Speaker 10: have his own arc kind of snuck in this way
• 44:22
  Speaker 10: because they can't officially call them Hulk movies.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: That's such a weird license. It's very weird.
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: It's strange.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of weird stuff. It's this whole thing. Well,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: that's what's going on with Lord of the Rings.
• 44:33
  Speaker 10: Lord of the Rings is apparently getting pitched for a
• 44:35
  Speaker 10: TV show by Amazon. But they can't do anything movie-wise,
• 44:40
  Speaker 10: but apparently that's what the legal thing is right now.
• 44:42
  Speaker 10: They just need to clarify that whoever bought the rights
• 44:45
  Speaker 10: before was for movie only, and if the word television
• 44:48
  Speaker 10: isn't in there, then Amazon has the okay to go
• 44:51
  Speaker 10: and do a TV version.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Once again, it's all these new things being thrown at
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: people that, number one, they don't know how to... function
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: artistically but legally they missed all these again going back to.
• 45:01
  Speaker 10: Like when they would rewrite those contracts so differently talking.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: To people who like used to do like promotion again
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: which I just did I sat down with somebody who
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: like when they were re-releasing movies before VHS was even
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: a thing and like they just there was no they
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: never would have addressed any of that legally because there
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: was no world for it to exist in Like you
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: could release it into theaters. That was it. You could
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: make up a, you could make a deal with a
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: TV network maybe to show it on tape, but there
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: was no, so they did not have anything in play
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: for those licenses to come. And like, so in the
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: early days, everybody kind of had a free for all.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: And that's what we ran into like in the two, well,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: like the nineties with the music rights too, because they
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: did not plan for it in TV or movies. Like
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: that's what was like the thing that screwed over, like
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: getting stuff put on DVD or Blu-ray and, That's.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: What kept WKRP from being on DVD for a long time.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: And all those MTV things because they didn't license the music.
• 45:59
  Speaker 10: I was going to say Daria.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Daria.
• 46:01
  Speaker 10: It was a shit show because it had so much
• 46:03
  Speaker 10: obscure music in it that they were like, we don't
• 46:05
  Speaker 10: even know how to get in touch.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: With these people. Yeah, they did not plan ahead because
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: the Wasn't a market for it at that time. We're
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: in that same boat now.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: If you go back to pre-Star Wars, no one gave
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: a shit about any licensees, right?
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no one cared about merchandise. That's why Lucas is
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: a millionaire.
• 46:21
  Speaker 9: It's like, oh, you got a movie, you want to
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: make some shirts? Okay, whatever.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: And then that changed how movies are marketed.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: So again, we keep hitting these little points. And now
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: as technology and the world just changes faster and faster,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: we get to this scenario over and over again. In
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: a shorter span of time. It used to be 10
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: or 20 years. But now it's every five years, the
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: whole market shifts. And like, oh, shit, we have to
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: plan for YouTube now? Like, how do we do that?
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you have to go from physical formats to
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: now you're dealing into total just software.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Nothing exists in the real world. It's just out there
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: in the internet, in the space, basically.
• 47:00
  Speaker 10: It's all vaporware.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: I love all the different... words people use. It sounds
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: like we don't understand the internet.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Software! The space!
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: The internet!
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: The tubes! Tubes. Yep, that's what it is.
• 47:15
  Speaker 9: I'm old and out of touch. I admit it.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta change your tube. Things go wrong with your.
• 47:22
  Speaker 10: PC, is it? I was really surprised Infinity War trailer
• 47:26
  Speaker 10: wasn't on this.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:27
  Speaker 10: Well, no, I take that back. Maybe that would be
• 47:30
  Speaker 10: a spoiler. That's true. The trailer was shown at I
• 47:34
  Speaker 10: think San Diego Comic-Con, and literally one person got an
• 47:39
  Speaker 10: angled thing of it on his phone.
• 47:42
  Speaker 9: One version got out.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: And they didn't break it.
• 47:43
  Speaker 10: But it shows Thor doing something in the very beginning
• 47:47
  Speaker 10: of it that would clearly tell you what happened in
• 47:50
  Speaker 10: this movie. So I guess in that respect, maybe it'll
• 47:52
  Speaker 10: be on Star Wars then.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:54
  Speaker 10: Star Wars or Black Panther, but I would think they
• 47:56
  Speaker 10: wouldn't wait that long. Black Panther seems like... It'll definitely
• 47:59
  Speaker 10: be on Black Panther, but I would think you would
• 48:01
  Speaker 10: want to show people that sooner. It seems like Star
• 48:03
  Speaker 10: Wars will probably get it.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Because I couldn't even remember. It's sooner than I thought.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I figured that was like, again, kind of like this one,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: the end of next year, but it's the summer release.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: And it's early. Well, there's going to be two of them,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: and this first one, I guarantee you, is going to
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: be bleak.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: Is there?
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: I thought they... Now there's another... It's somewhere.
• 48:20
  Speaker 10: There's Infinity War, and then I think there's another Avengers,
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: but the Avengers is the wrapping up of Infinity War.
• 48:26
  Speaker 10: Because essentially, like, if it's anything like the comic even
• 48:30
  Speaker 10: a fraction of a percent like the comic there's a
• 48:33
  Speaker 10: shit ton of death like a shit ton of death
• 48:36
  Speaker 10: and unless they're going to do some time gem you
• 48:39
  Speaker 10: know restart bullshit this should just be a passing of
• 48:42
  Speaker 10: mantles like avengers 4 should be like spider-man is supposed
• 48:46
  Speaker 10: to be the first of this next wave whatever this
• 48:48
  Speaker 10: new click is going to be that's why i think
• 48:49
  Speaker 10: thor probably die or something go on to a female
• 48:53
  Speaker 10: one hulk man if it's anything like that and just
• 48:58
  Speaker 10: It's going to be really bleak, and I think that
• 49:00
  Speaker 10: might be kind of why this movie was so fucking fun,
• 49:03
  Speaker 10: because they're like, before you watch all these people you
• 49:06
  Speaker 10: love die, let's have some fun, because it's about to
• 49:10
  Speaker 10: get bad.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: See, and that's what's weird to me, is this one,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: because I did, like, I this is again the maybe
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: the first Thor that I really like enjoyed it's a
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: lot of fun but I feel like it's also got
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: such a weird dark undertone oh yeah yeah and like
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: it also is them like I feel like it's them
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: coming to terms with there are stakes and they're about
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: to well they already kind of by the end of
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: this movie they are real and they're about to get
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: way more real as we get into this because Again,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: if we want to jump to the end, but, I mean,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: the fact that, like, we destroy the hammer. It's gone
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: within now. I mean, maybe they do something else.
• 49:48
  Speaker 10: I love they put that line at Odin's home, though,
• 49:50
  Speaker 10: where he's like, you're not the god of hammers, you're
• 49:52
  Speaker 10: the god of thunder. Because they really have overplayed the
• 49:54
  Speaker 10: hammer in the movies.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: It's like, dude, more lightning. You're a lightning god. Like,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: why is everything a hammer?
• 49:59
  Speaker 10: So I thought it was really cool that they kind
• 50:01
  Speaker 10: of called themselves out and they're like, do some lightning shit.
• 50:04
  Speaker 10: That's what you are. Yeah. That line in particular, that
• 50:07
  Speaker 10: was beautiful.
• 50:08
  Speaker 9: Though when he said that.
• 50:08
  Speaker 10: And he was like, you're the god of lightning, not
• 50:10
  Speaker 10: the god of hammers.
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: And as far as like having a lot of dark undertones,
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: I felt like there was so much dark stuff going on,
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: but every single dramatic moment was underpinned with a joke.
• 50:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: With like, it was like, Asgard exploding.
• 50:26
  Speaker 10: And he's like, oh, you still got the foundation.
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: There it goes.
• 50:29
  Speaker 10: I mean, there was so many Asgard blowing up.
• 50:32
  Speaker 8: It was like, it was toting that line of like,
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: is it too silly? is this, like, it's, like, towing
• 50:37
  Speaker 8: that line all the way.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 50:39
  Speaker 8: And there are just some moments where it just goes over, and.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I felt really... Like the elevator, when they were bonding
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: in the elevator.
• 50:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 50:46
  Speaker 10: You know, and he's kind of telling us, like, you're
• 50:48
  Speaker 10: a shithead. I'm done caring about you. I used to
• 50:50
  Speaker 10: care about you so goddamn much, but I'm done, dude.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I'm done. And, like, that could have been a heavier moment.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: I love how they're planning that also in the elevator.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: They're like, okay, let's do ouch, I'm hurt. And, you know,
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: which is.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: What they actually do is kind of a cliche in
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: movies like that like oh distract the bad guys but
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: the fact that they actually you see them talking about
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: it i know i don't want to do it's like
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: a play that's stupid it's humiliating.
• 51:18
  Speaker 10: Play well they did a lot of good i thought
• 51:20
  Speaker 10: in this movie with um kind of reintroducing their their
• 51:25
  Speaker 10: chemistry because in the comic loki's always pulling one over
• 51:29
  Speaker 10: on Thor. That's the thing is Thor always falls for it.
• 51:31
  Speaker 10: A lot of comics tend to write him kind of
• 51:32
  Speaker 10: like a big dumb jock in a way because he's
• 51:34
  Speaker 10: always dumb enough to fall for his faith in Loki
• 51:38
  Speaker 10: again and again and again. So I thought it was
• 51:39
  Speaker 10: interesting that they gave him this moment where he's like,
• 51:41
  Speaker 10: I'm done, dude. I'm not dumb anymore. Fuck you. But
• 51:44
  Speaker 10: at the same time, they referenced all the times that like,
• 51:47
  Speaker 10: When it talked about the time he turned into a
• 51:48
  Speaker 10: frog and the time he turned into a snake. And
• 51:50
  Speaker 10: I was like, yes, those are the things in the
• 51:51
  Speaker 10: comic that kind of make them endearing. It's like Loki
• 51:54
  Speaker 10: kind of get one over on this big tough dude
• 51:56
  Speaker 10: all the time. Kind of shows that mind.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: And body duality they have.
• 52:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 52:02
  Speaker 10: I don't know. I would have liked to have seen
• 52:03
  Speaker 10: that more in earlier movies to kind of reinforce that relationship.
• 52:06
  Speaker 10: But I like that they actually talked about their childhood more.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I think it's them. It's the thing I've said from
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: day one, and as many times me bitching about villains,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, I've always thrown it. I'm like, Loki's
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: not a villain.
• 52:20
  Speaker 9: No.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: And from Avengers on, I'm like, he's not.
• 52:23
  Speaker 9: He's anti-hero.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: He is certainly there to be kind of an antagonist.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: But he never really fully stepped up to villain.
• 52:31
  Speaker 10: He's got to be the sacrifice in the end. He's
• 52:33
  Speaker 10: got to be during the Thanos thing. Especially seeing this one.
• 52:35
  Speaker 10: He's got to die. But he's still traitoring right now.
• 52:38
  Speaker 10: He took that Tesseract Cube, which is one.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Of the Infinity Stones.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: You saw him.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you saw him look at it. And I'm like,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I know that's coming back.
• 52:44
  Speaker 10: And that ship at the end, the first stinger, that's Thanos.
• 52:47
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 52:47
  Speaker 10: So I wonder if right out the gate, Loki's like,
• 52:49
  Speaker 10: here's this Tesseract Cube. Can I be with you? Because
• 52:52
  Speaker 10: like I said, if you've seen that, trailer for Infinity War, like,
• 52:58
  Speaker 10: Thor's just floating out in space. After what happens to
• 53:01
  Speaker 10: that ship, he's just floating because he can't die from
• 53:04
  Speaker 10: air or whatever, but Thanos is about to fucking drop
• 53:07
  Speaker 10: the hammer on them, and that's going to start stuff off,
• 53:10
  Speaker 10: but Loki's definitely going to, I think, end up doing
• 53:13
  Speaker 10: the heroic... Anti-heroic, heroic sacrifice kind of thing.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Even here he did. It was like, oh, well, tough luck.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: We're not going to be friends anymore. See you later.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: And then 10 minutes later, he kind of comes in
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: to save the day. So it's like, we're already kind
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: of playing that card. We know he can be good. Again,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: it's one of those, I don't think there's any good
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: in you. And then he kind of immediately proves him wrong.
• 53:34
  Speaker 10: I think he's a survivalist.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 53:36
  Speaker 10: He's going to play whatever character he has to be
• 53:39
  Speaker 10: to live.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't feel like he's truly evil. I mean, yes,
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: there is some... malevolence in him but.
• 53:44
  Speaker 10: True neutral like he's well dnd route he's just yeah
• 53:48
  Speaker 10: you know it's whatever just whatever works best.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: For me he's an opportunist and you know and then
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: when you dig into loki a little bit he's kind
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: of got some justifiable reasons for.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Being a dick i mean maybe he takes it a
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: bit too far go into the backstory of the two
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: of them and especially i mean Thor in that first
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: movie is kind of a dick. So like growing up
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: with him, like it does set a pretty, yeah. And
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I think that's another reason I ended up liking this
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: one so much. It's taken that long. You know, I, again,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I like him in the Avengers movies, but he has
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: such little time and it's like, maybe this is some
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: sort of like growth for the character, which may seem silly,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: but I'm just like, he really is such like, he's
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: making wisecracks, you know, where everything else was always directed
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: at him in Avengers.
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: It's always Robert Downey Jr.
• 54:36
  Speaker 10: Just constantly jabbing.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Where at this point, he's the one who's got a
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: lighter tone and is making jokes. He's making the jokes.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: He's making the jokes. So it almost is like a
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: weird growth in this silly character that maybe I wouldn't
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: have expected. But he's so much more fun in this movie.
• 54:53
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 54:54
  Speaker 10: I kind of wish the first movie would have been
• 54:55
  Speaker 10: him as a child more.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:57
  Speaker 10: And that what was our first movie would have been
• 54:59
  Speaker 10: the second. Show him and Loki growing up and Odin...
• 55:02
  Speaker 10: being happy and Asgard and this and stuff and, and
• 55:05
  Speaker 10: show them, I don't know, maybe have the first, maybe
• 55:07
  Speaker 10: been more of like finalizing the war with the, with the,
• 55:10
  Speaker 10: the ice giants and stuff. But I don't know, because
• 55:14
  Speaker 10: for me as a comic reader, like I said, like the, the,
• 55:18
  Speaker 10: the relationship between Loki and Thor is so much more
• 55:20
  Speaker 10: interesting when that's going on. And Loki just seems kind
• 55:23
  Speaker 10: of like, I don't say see-through, but you kind of
• 55:26
  Speaker 10: always know what's up. I think watching the movies, we're
• 55:28
  Speaker 10: into comics. You're always like, can you trust him this
• 55:31
  Speaker 10: time or not? He kind of got you too. You're like,
• 55:33
  Speaker 10: I think we're good. I think we can trust him here.
• 55:35
  Speaker 10: You know, so you didn't, you kind of understood why
• 55:37
  Speaker 10: Thor kept falling for it. Cause you, he's like a bull,
• 55:41
  Speaker 10: but he's not trustworthy.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it also proves what, what we'd said
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: earlier that by the second movie, they really did not
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: know what they were doing. Cause like, we're going to
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: kill off Loki. First of all, no. Cause all of
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: your characters, you in quotes, kill, come back immediately. But
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: on top of that, I'm like the fact that, you know, they're,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: they do this big in like that's gonna be gone
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: when we all know he's way too popular you're not
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: gonna get rid of him and then like now he's
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: just back like without even really like delving.
• 56:13
  Speaker 10: Into it there wasn't a secret in the movie at
• 56:15
  Speaker 10: the end it shows.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Him but it's just it's them like again playing that
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: that's one of the things that's continually annoyed me is
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: them playing that oh we killed the kid nah we're
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: just kidding like they do it within the same movie
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: like that's the one thing that is kind of annoying
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: in Winter Soldier I'm like if you're going to kill
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Samuel L. Jackson, just kill him. Just do it. Because
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I would like to see them have to deal with
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: him out of the picture. And we get the whole
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: dramatic thing, like we have to deal with him. Nah,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: it's just part of the plot. And I'm like, that's
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: fine if you wouldn't have kind of done that four
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: other times in these series of movies. So I think
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: them continually playing that, oh, we killed him. Nah, you
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: know I'll be back next time. That's a lazy move,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like. I don't know.
• 57:00
  Speaker 8: Who has actually died for good In the Marvel, like,
• 57:05
  Speaker 8: what important characters have really died for good?
• 57:08
  Speaker 10: Quicksilver, maybe?
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, unless they found some loophole somewhere down the
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: line when they.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: Get the right.
• 57:14
  Speaker 9: What's the guy from Guardians, the.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Rooker. He just died. So again, they're
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: kind of fixing that now. What's his name?
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: The director has said recently, as far as I'm concerned,
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: he's dead.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Which is fine, but again, it's these last couple of movies,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: them fixing that problem. I think all of those other ones,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: they just kept playing that card and then faking you
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: out within the same movie most of the time. Or
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: even again, that was my big issue with what's his agent?
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: what's his face on the first Avengers that they, that
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Joss killed him. And then, yeah, then they play, well, no,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: we think he's pretty popular. We could probably turn him into,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: I'm like, bullshit. Like, no, either kill him or don't.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I think, which again, I feel like Joss is still like,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I killed him. Like, I feel like if you ask him,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: that guy's dead. Like, cause I don't think he signed
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: on for all that other stuff that they did on
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: the TV show.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: So it's like the guy who wrote the first Friday,
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: the 13th movie, as far as he's concerned, Jason Voorhees
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: is dead.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: He's at the bottom of the lake right now.
• 58:17
  Speaker 15: Right.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't, I think that's, that's another interesting
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: thing that we keep seeing them sort of readjusting things.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: And again, I feel like it gets better and better. Like,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: the further out we get, the more they're figuring this
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: stuff out. Like, oh yeah, we messed that up, you know,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: this movie, but like, we're going to do better this time.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: So again, I think Loki himself is a much more
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: well-rounded character.
• 58:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: He seems silly in Avengers almost. And I still, he's
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: still super charismatic. Like I still like him in that,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: but there's times when he doesn't even make sense within
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: his own little plan where now I feel like he
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: is sort of a conflicted character. And like, He is
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: just opportunistic when he needs to be, but he does
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: still have ties.
• 59:00
  Speaker 10: I think that's where the second movie failed so bad, though,
• 59:03
  Speaker 10: because I think all that is really supposed to feel
• 59:06
  Speaker 10: like it's rooted in his mother's death.
• 59:08
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 59:08
  Speaker 10: But that happens so constantly. of bleh in the second
• 59:11
  Speaker 10: movie that I don't think it had the impact. He
• 59:13
  Speaker 10: really loves his mom. As much as he's a rival
• 59:16
  Speaker 10: of Thor and has a weird love-hate with his dad,
• 59:19
  Speaker 10: his mom is like, you know, everything. So when she
• 59:23
  Speaker 10: died in his second movie, that should have created some
• 59:25
  Speaker 10: kind of rift in his personality.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:29
  Speaker 10: But like I said, I don't think the second movie
• 59:31
  Speaker 10: really landed that well.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: No. I don't think anybody.
• 59:33
  Speaker 10: Loki just kind of seems like chaos at this point.
• 59:36
  Speaker 10: It's hard to really tell what they intended to do
• 59:40
  Speaker 10: with him and where he's going.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: But I feel like, though, with this one, the scenes
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: that he was in, it almost became like his movie
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: for a little bit.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: I think they want him to feel equal to Thor. Yeah.
• 59:52
  Speaker 10: They pushed up the cool meter and stuff he did
• 59:54
  Speaker 10: to try to.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: But he wasn't the only character that they did that
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: to because like with the Valkyrie.
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: Valkyrie.
• 59:59
  Speaker 10: They pushed her to the moon.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: It was pretty great. Oh my God.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: And the scene where it shows her like writing off
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: the battle.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 10: It's like, man.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Now I want a Valkyrie movie.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 10: There was like three shots that were just like next
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 10: level epic.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 10: When he made her see that memory again, that slow motion.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was amazing.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 8: I was like, where is Ride of the Valkyries right now?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, of all times, they don't play that.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I hear that in almost every movie, but they didn't
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: work it in here. We had to save up for
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: a minute.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 10: It seemed like if someone was jumping or flying, the
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 10: shot was epic. Just slow motion, just really nice shots
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 10: and angles and colors. It was visually incredible, man. This movie,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 10: I didn't think it could look much better than that
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 10: last Guardians movie, but.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: Well, I thought going into it, I was like, okay,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: the trailer has me all excited.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 9: I hope it lives up to that.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: But I feel like it just completely exceeded my expectations.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 10: Man, the wolf looked great. Oh, the wolf looked amazing.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 10: A lot of things that could have looked really... There
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 10: was a shot with the wolf where the sun was
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 10: hitting and it was hitting.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: All the furs. And fur was like the one thing
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: they couldn't do in CG forever. Air was impossible. It
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: looked fantastic. They just now are getting pretty good at it,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: looking legit, but I think that, again, that's coming up
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: to one of the other things that I think works
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: so well in this. And as you know, it's been
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: an ongoing thing. Issues with the villains. I think she
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: did a great job. She's just a Disney villain. She
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: just is all in on this thing. And I'm like,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: she's just that damn good. She can deliver.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: I feel like as an audience, we were cheated. in
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: that she could have used a lot.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 9: More screen time.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will give you that. That's the one thing.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: Number one, you have a great actor anyway playing that role,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: and she brought everything to it, and I feel like
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: there was so much more we could have seen her
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: do with that character.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 8: I was going to say that she did a great performance,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 8: but I think it's a similar problem that we've had
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 8: with other Marvel movies, and just movies in general, I think,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 8: where her evilness was exaggerated. And it made it so
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 8: that her whole character was such like one note.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: That's kind of why I said, that's why I said
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Disney villain. Like, I feel like it's very cartoony. She's
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: got the evil turned up to 11, but I'm just like,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: we don't really get much like, you know, what's your
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: big backstory with Cruella de Vil? I don't know. She's
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: just evil. It's the same thing. Like, I feel like
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: she's that level of evil and she delivers.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 10: She's an amalgamation of like multiple people in the comic.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 10: Because Hela and the goddess of death are two complete, Right.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 10: And his sister is a different character, too.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 10: So, yeah, you've got three people there squishing her.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 8: It just didn't make sense to me that all the
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 8: other characters in this movie really get the nuance. And
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 8: they really get, like, I'm good and I'm bad. I'm
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 8: alcoholic and I'm, like, going to be this awesome hero. Like,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 8: I'm mischief and I deliver, like, all this stuff. And
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 8: then we just get, you're just bad.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: You just want to kill people.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 8: That's it. That's all you get.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 9: And they just barely get it.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: Scratched the surface on her backstory which was getting to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: be interesting and really painted Odin in a terrible light
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: which I was very happy to see Again.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Adding layer to Odin, who's always seemed kind of boring, really. Yeah.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 10: I was going to say, in a comic, Odin's not
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 10: a good guy. He does some asshole things that really
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 10: put Earth in danger a.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Lot of times over ego and valor and stuff.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: And to be the god of the gods, that's a
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: very big role that could be very complex and have many,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: many layers.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 9: And we're just.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Just really seeing a snippet of that. But it was nice.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: What they did do with that was nice.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I think it's just that if you're going to cut
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: back somebody, she's the easy one. Because all you have
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: to be is evil to be the villain. So again,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: it's so... But I feel like we don't even get
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: good evil out of a lot of the other ones.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: So to me, at least it worked on that Disney
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: villain level. And I would have liked to have seen
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: a lot more character development. But again, how long is
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: this movie anyway? So if you have to cut for time,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: but I see that's where they would do it. It's like, well,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: as long as we know she's the bad guy, we're
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: going to develop Loki a little more, but we're going
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: to leave her.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 8: I feel like they could have done what they did
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 8: with the other characters. Such a small amount of screen time,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 8: you could still do so much more.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. But I still think she turns in
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: a great performance. For sure. She's so good. She might
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: not be dead. I'm pretty sure she's not. That's what
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: they said.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 10: Again, in the comic, Thanos' thing is he's actually trying
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 10: to get the love of the goddess of death. So
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 10: maybe she'll still kind of be around and this is
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 10: going to be more of... I mean, Thanos' ship is
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 10: there right afterwards. Maybe he does have at least some
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 10: connection with Hela, goddess of death, in a way where
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 10: he's going to save her or something. Because in the comic,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 10: she's standing around while everything is going on with the gauntlet.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 10: So I feel like she needs to be there watching
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 10: it go down if it's going to be anything like
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 10: the comic. because he's doing it for her, so I
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 10: don't know. I just hope Thanos does have more levity
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 10: when he shows up on screen. Like I said, the
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 10: one little trailer has him talking for a bit, and
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 10: it seems a bit heavier. It doesn't seem quite as
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 10: comic book-y, but man, to consider 17, 18 movies are
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 10: leading up to him.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Leading up to this one guy.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 10: Man, I hope Brolin gets to talk and bring it home, because.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Again, another great actor, but are they going to let him,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: are they going to give him the screen time to
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: do it? Usually is going to be the issue. But
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: I was going to, again, while we're on villains like this,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: because again, my running issue with all of these is
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: by the end we have a big dumb CG something
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: or other to fight against. And in the end of this,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: we do have that, but it's like, that's kind of
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: the joke of it is like, we have, what is
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: his name? Searcher. Searcher comes into play and it's like,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: he's damn near doomsday. Like it's almost exactly the scenario
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: we just had with the Batman V Superman nonsense. And like,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: that was my whole, like that big dumb finale in that.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: And this is almost like a play on that of like, no,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: we have a real villain and This is kind of
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: the twist at the end. It was like, oh, yeah, well,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: what if we just kind of use this to our
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: advantage to get out of it what we want? To me,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: it was almost kind of like thumbing our nose at
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: that whole bullshit that goes on specifically in D.C.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: I did like that twist, though, because he even makes
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: the comment, he's like, this whole time I thought we
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: were supposed to stop it, but it's supposed to happen.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, midway in when... I think it is Thor
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: that's just like, well, she gains all her power from Asgard.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, there's your answer. The only way to
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: destroy her is to destroy Asgard. So really, they kind
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: of start making that evident, but I'm just like, the
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: fact that they set it up at the beginning with him,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: it's like, well, there's your answer.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 9: But then they.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Bring up the point that Asgard isn't a place, it's
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: the people.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: The fact that she could still be around is very likely,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: as long as there are Asgardians in the universe.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: It would be cool.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 10: In the comic, she kind of just looks like a
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 10: female Grim Reaper. She's just a female. Feminine skeleton in
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 10: some robes.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: What if she did live? She's like almost skeletal.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 10: Like maybe she did live through that stuff, but she's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 10: almost like undead. And so she's still kind of kicking
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 10: it with Thanos, but will look way more like the
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 10: death persona. That would be fantastic if they... That would
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 10: be metal.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: That would be.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 10: Really accurate too. That would be very cool. Plus Cate Blanchett, man.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 10: Fucking bring her back. That was fucking incredible. They need
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 10: to do some kind of League of Legends or League
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 10: of Villains kind of thing with these Marvel movies and
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 10: just be like, fuck it, they're all still alive and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 10: they're all together. They're all together.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: I want to make a point real quick.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Time jam.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: I think it's been a while since all of us
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: have been this excited about talking about a movie, especially
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: a freaking superhero movie on here. So good job.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: I was like, Guardians, but that's so out of the loop.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: It's still not really a superhero. I mean, it is.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: It's Marvel, but it's not as traditional.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 10: Man, that movie holds up. I've watched it a couple
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 10: more times, and it really holds up. I was kind of,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 10: I don't know, I was kind of expecting somewhere in
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 10: the middle of watching it again to kind of zone
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 10: out and be like, all right, this movie's too long.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 10: But I was like, no, beginning to end, I think
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 10: I liked it more.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: I kind of feel like this movie, like the Guardians movies,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: kind of holds up on its own pretty well. If
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: you haven't seen all the other Infinity stuff... You're probably
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: going to be okay with this. And even if you
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: haven't seen the other two Thor movies, I think it
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: would be fun.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you have a working knowledge.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: I kind of have an.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Idea of who Thor and the Hulk are.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 10: It kind of felt like they didn't want you to
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 10: watch the first two movies. The first half an hour
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 10: did so much damage control and reiteration. It was like,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 10: you don't want us to see these last two movies.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: Do you?
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: And they kind of reinvent everything anyway once we get
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: into the Hela. It's just like, oh, and everything you
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: thought was your past isn't really your past if you
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: go back a little further. So it kind of is
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: reinventing the timeline anyway. just by uncovering the truth, more
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: or less. Tea? I don't drink tea.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 12: What do you drink? No tea. So, I keep a
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 12: watch list of individuals and beings from other realms that
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 12: may be.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 10: A threat to this world, and your adopted brother, Loki,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 10: is one of those beings.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 12: Worth the inclusion.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 12: So.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 14: Why bring him here to New York?
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 12: It's a bit of a long story.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Family drama, that kind of thing, but we're looking for
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: my father.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 10: Oh, okay. So if you found Odin, you'd all return
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 10: to Asgard promptly?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 12: Oh, yes, promptly.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 7: Great.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 10: Allow me to help you. There were some really great nods.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 10: I liked Umbrella. being a hammer because old school when
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 10: he was a lawyer he had a walking stick he
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 10: would slam the walking stick so for him when he
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 10: was doing it with dr strange at first i didn't
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 10: get it i was like yeah it took me a
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 10: second i was like oh they're doing the thing it's
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 10: they really didn't make that yeah because it was a
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 10: minute before i was like okay that is man they
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 10: played up the hand thing a lot he did it
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 10: like five times in this movie but yeah when he
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 10: did with umbrella i'm like why oh that's cool okay.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: So that's yeah at some point i was gonna say
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: what do you think of the Doctor Strange cameo. I
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: liked it.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 10: I loved his look.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: I liked it.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 10: I think he looks so much like Strange.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: I think Sherlock Holmes does a great Doctor Strange.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 9: I can't say that guy's name.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: There's too many syllables. But I love him as Doctor Strange.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: I liked the way he handled that performance where he
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: basically shows up and he's like, look, gotta get your
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: asshole brother off this planet i don't care what you
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: do just get him out of here but i feel
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: like they kind of shoved him in the movie to
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: replace tony stark yeah who's just shown up in all
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: the other movies out of nowhere and been like oh
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: you fucked up here's how you gotta fix it i
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: feel like that's what they were doing with dr strange.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 8: Because he's also like a genius that's kind of like
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 8: nonchalant and just like I need to get it done
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 8: just get it done yeah.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: He's a egotistical genius yeah comic wise he's Omega sure
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: which is like god level so.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 10: I mean of all the people on earth he's literally
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 10: the strongest guy on that planet right like in many
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 10: ways it would make complete sense that you know he
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 10: would be the one running the show but we know
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 10: it's gonna be Tony yeah but yeah like.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: Comic wise but with all that I again I loved
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: seeing him in there But I felt like that scene
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: could have been cut in half and you really wouldn't
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: have lost anything. I mean, it was nice to have
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: him there to be like, all right.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: It just felt a little forced, really. I could have
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: said that about the whole movie in a way. That
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: is sort of his role is to be watching Earth
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: and like, hey, this weirdo just showed up from another plane.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: So like. It makes sense, but at the same time, just, again,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: knowing movies the way I am, I'm like, oh, this
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: is how we're working them in.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 8: Because I just knew, I'm like, we've got to work
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: some other way.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: We've got Hulk most of the movie, but we've got
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: to have another crossover, right? So that we tie all
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: these together a little more.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 8: Maybe they were just trying to give us a break
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 8: from Stark.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 9: I think so.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: I think that was part of it. Because that was
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: my first book.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: He was assigned to Spider-Man, so it's like, we've got
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: to get something else in on this one.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: On the way home from the theater, I was like, hey,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: there's no Tony Stark.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 9: And then I was like, ah, Dr.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: Strange.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 10: I wonder if this is another next wave thing then.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 9: I think so.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 10: Maybe Strange will just be that Tony Stark persona. So
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 10: we're showing him Nick Fury and kind of like, hey guys,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 10: what's going on?
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: You know me, right?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 9: Come talk to me.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 10: And that way going forward, he'll be the one.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 9: Are they doing another Dr. Strange movie? Has anybody heard?
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 9: I think it's... Because I would love to see that.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 10: I would assume you established a villain form that lived.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 10: So, I mean.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: It wasn't because I looked earlier. I was trying to
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: remember when the ones coming next year were, and I
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: don't remember it being on the slate there. I think
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: there's another.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 9: I really don't know.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 10: I honestly haven't. I hope so. I can't say for
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 10: sure if there's a Doctor Strange 2. He's going to
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 10: be heavily in Infinity War.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: He'll be like one of the main.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 10: Dudes fighting Thanos for sure.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. They're all becoming so muddled at
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: this point. You know, I'm like. Is it really a standalone? Again,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: it's mostly Spider-Man and Spider-Man, but it's a lot of
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Tony Stark.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 10: When movies had to introduce all this stuff, it feels
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 10: like that. But as a comic person, and the comics
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 10: have been around for like 50, 60, 70 years, you're like, oh,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 10: this is all one world, and anyone can walk in
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 10: on any panel, and we're getting there finally in the
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 10: movie sense that, yeah, anyone can just walk in now.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: That's definitely what Civil War was like. It's like it
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: said Captain America at the front, but I'm like, this
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: is easily as much Avengers as the other two Avengers movies.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: It's just what lens are you going to give this
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: view of the Marvel universe? Yeah, like I said, I
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: think that's exciting.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 10: I don't mind those kind of little cameos because of that.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 10: To me, that's just more foundation building. Yes, this is
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 10: all in the same world. Even if I just got
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 10: to come ask this dude for advice for five, ten minutes,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 10: that's what you would do in a comic. In a comic,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 10: it might only be a couple panels, but I don't know.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 10: I don't mind seeing them. I think it'll be interesting
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 10: to see what this next wave is and if they
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 10: can all, I don't know, just like, The people that
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 10: we've had playing these Avengers now, they're all such a
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 10: big deal. And now you have to do this with
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 10: all new people. Like I said, the kid playing Spider-Man
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 10: seems good. Oh boy, Doctor Strange seems good.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 10: Falcon's going to carry it on his own. I don't
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 10: know how much more we can do with Hawkeye.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I like these people, but a whole movie
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: of like... We need some.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 10: Not bigger names, but bigger personalities to kind of carry
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 10: things going forward.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Falcon's cool, but it is hard for him to do... Again,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: maybe because he doesn't have powers. It's harder to see
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: the ones that are... Same thing with Hawkeye. It's harder
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: to see the more human ones carrying their own movies.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: That's part of the issue.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: I know Black Widow keeps getting screwed over. There's no
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: insight to that. But I would see that. I would
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: watch a Black Widow movie, but I don't know if
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: it would Be as exciting, as dramatic as this movie was.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: Really? Did anybody else see Atomic Blonde? Because you kind
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: of got your place.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: Well, that's what I've heard, but I haven't actually.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is. She's just John Wick female.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: That's what I heard of it. No, I saw it.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: It's an okay story, but it is a great action movie.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: The fight scenes are John Wick level action. epic so
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: i mean it's kind of like watching that i'm like
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: this is maybe another studio doing a test run of
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: like can we do kind of a black widow thing
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: so yeah that's that's which it's funny that i think
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: they said she was in the running for i think
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: maybe to play hella i think uh charlize was in
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: yeah for that so that would be an interesting but
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: again i feel like she's done that before like wasn't
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: that her snow white and the huntress or something like
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: isn't that almost the same role so Maybe that's why
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: she didn't want to do it again. But I don't know.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: I think we're seeing more and more of those kind
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: of action movies hit. And we're starting to see more
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: and more get thrown towards female leads. So hopefully we'll
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: get something like that.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 9: Well, that's, you know, with the Valkyrie, I kept thinking, hey.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 9: The strong female.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of where I was wondering if we're like,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: can they pass the mantle if we, if again, assuming
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: somebody gets killed off next movie, if we lose Thor,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: is she, can she step up to be the new
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Thor essentially?
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 10: That's an interesting point. You know, and you could, I mean,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 10: she doesn't have to be worthy to pick up the
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 10: hammer anymore. But you would have to have a hammer.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 10: There's no way you would have to have a hammer again. Oh,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 10: the hammer will be back.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Well, again, I thought, that's what, again, reading this stuff,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: I thought they referenced, like, once the hammer's messed up,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: he gets some sort of, like, sledgehammer that is, like,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: the new version of. So, again, if they can, like, again,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: if the gods can create a new weapon for whoever
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: the new Thor will be, I guess it doesn't have
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: to be him, really.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 10: I remember comic-wise when they were introducing the female Thor and, like,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 10: people lost their shit. the thing they went back to
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 10: is that on the hammer itself, it has the whole,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 10: you know, and he who be worthy, and they changed
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 10: the word he to thee.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 10: And that's what they're like, oh, it says, if thee
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 10: be worthy, so it can be a girl. And that
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 10: was the whole thing back then. So it just feels
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 10: like the hammer would have to be there to be
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 10: that like, you know, kind of like the king wearing
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 10: a crown, like you are Thor, you're.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 9: Just a hammer.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: So I think it's just like a hammer 2.0. Like
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's just a retooled version of it to
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: be given to whoever, because that was my, again, we didn't,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't totally get to it because we were jumping
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: to the end, but again, stakes, like the hammer being destroyed,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: but also Thor lost an eye. Yes. Like that didn't like,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: cause I kept waiting. I was like, are they gonna like,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: Odin's going to come magically fix everything. And like, by
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: the end I'm like, no dude just lost an eye.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: Like that's real. That's stakes. Like, It didn't magically get fixed.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: He has to live with whatever horrible thing just happened.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 10: Which doesn't always happen. There are some old man Thors
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 10: that have that lost eye, like his dad.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, is that signs that things are not
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: always going to magically fix themselves at the end of
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: the movie as we head into Infinity War?
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 10: Well, I'm curious how hard they'll play it, because in
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 10: the comic, my understanding every time they describe Ragnarok was
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 10: that it's happened like seven, eight, nine times already. Everyone
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 10: is reincarnated.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: It's this big cycle.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 10: So depending on how fast they want to say that
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 10: stuff happens, maybe there will be another Odin type or another,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 10: I don't know, someone that's died and powerful. Maybe we'll
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 10: already kind of see that.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 10: That next version of that person starting to show up
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 10: or something.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: That is kind of, again... looking at this, that's how
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: the director this time described it. Because it is like,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: if you go into like the actual mythology of it,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: it's the end of everything kind of thing. But he's like,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: The way I'm seeing it is more of like reinvention,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: that it isn't necessarily the end of it. It's the
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: death card being played. You know, it's like it doesn't
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: necessarily mean death. It's the end of things the way
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: that you knew them. So that's what I'm saying. It's
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: the tarot card. It doesn't mean death. It means change.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: So that's what this is, too. It's like it's the
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: end of that planet that you knew that was your civilization.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: But it's really just sort of reinventing and your people
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: have to find something else to do with themselves. Now,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: whether or not Earth is a good idea.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 10: You know what was strange to me?
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: It's not a good idea for us.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 10: Because I just watched the movie, so I haven't let
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 10: a lot of it process. I just now realized they
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 10: didn't talk about the soul gem. That's Heimdall's whole thing
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 10: with the yellow eyes and the sword. Apparently the sword
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 10: has a yellow gem in it. That's the last one.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 10: That's the last gem we need. And I just realized
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 10: the movie didn't even point that out. Heimdall has a
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 10: gem on him.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 10: That was supposed to be the last reveal. That's the
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 10: last one, the yellow one. That's why you can connect
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 10: with souls. That's why you can see people anywhere because
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 10: it's either in the sword or in him somehow that
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 10: he has that power of that gem going on. And
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 10: like I said, I just assumed it was going to
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 10: be in the sword and they were going to talk
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 10: about that, but I guess that'll be infinity.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: There's another great actor and character we didn't see enough of.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 12: Oh, Idris?
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 10: Oh, my God, man.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, it took him forever to show up.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: In the trivia for this, though, they said this is
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: the highest that they've been on the rundown of a
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Marvel movie for both him and Loki. They said both
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: of them, because I guess even in Avengers, there's so
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: many huge stars that he gets so far down in
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: the list of characters that I guess because this is
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: a tighter little group here that... Idris Elba and, and
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: he both kind of Tom Hiddleston got bumped up. And
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: so this is the first time of like, how long
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: have these characters been around? Almost since the very, well,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: both of them really kind of the very sweat second
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: movie in the run there.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: So it's like, well, they were both third.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Third movie of the marble.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: Third movie in, if we're counting Hulk, which they technically do.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: So like, yeah, I guess third movie in they've been there,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: but this is the first time they even kind of
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: got close to the top of the lineup. So, and
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: they should be yeah.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 10: Yeah that's a great actor man he needs to be.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: Which again i think they just want to work people
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: in at this point because it's become such a vast
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: universe because that's a new one this time that i
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: mean we'd never seen the carl urban character before right
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: and i'm like that's another like he's a great we
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: were just last week we were just like He's the executioner.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: The dude that sides with her. But again, the whole
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: time I do like see, and that's another one of
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: those of like kind of stakes of like seeing somebody
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: sort of redeem themselves of like, I kind of hate
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: that I'm forced into this situation the whole time, but
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go along with it because it's the
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: best situation I have right now. He's kind of the
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Loki of this movie. He's just like, he's a lighter
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: version of it, but it's the same thing of like,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: I'm going along with this cause I don't really have
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: a better option. But then when need be, he's like,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to sort of try to redeem
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: myself to save my culture, my planet, even though it's
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: not going to be a planet anymore. So I don't know.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: But I like that. I liked him being there. And again,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: we were just saying that. Like, Carl Urban should be
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: in every movie. We said it last week, and here
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: he is. So it's like, I think it's that thing of, like,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: even for people that aren't going to be huge roles
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things... I think at this point,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: they just want to work everybody in. So the fact
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: that we have Idris Elba as a pretty minor character
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of this.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 10: I mean, I'm sure maybe in retrospect, maybe now they
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 10: would have wished they saved him for Black Panther.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 10: You know, where he could have did a whole lot more, but.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: He's getting up there now. I mean, not really, but
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: for leading men, for being the buff dude that he is.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: It just makes him better. Maybe so, but Again, they
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: didn't do bad either way with any of the casting
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: in the new Black Panther movie. But yeah, I guess
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: now it's harder to work him in there as a
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: crossover character.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it'll be tough as hell. Like I said, apparently
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 10: he has a stone. He'll have to be Infinity War
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 10: at least a little bit. There's something to die or have.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 9: That pulled from him.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: I'd love to see him have a substantial part in Infinity.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: Because one, I think whatever that man is in, I've
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: been impressed with. But two, just what he brings to
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: that character is, I mean, perfect.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: And way more than probably would be there. Like, I
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: feel like in anyone else's hands, this would be a
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: pretty minor character that really wouldn't have any depth and
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: would just be like, oh, he's the guy that watches
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: The Gate. He'd be like The Gate guy, right? Yeah.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I can never remember his name.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: So, like, that's the thing. Like, by the time you
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: get to this movie and you see how much is
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: going on there with what little screen time he has,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: like how much, like, weight he brings to that and
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: how much responsibility he feels for the entire people. It's
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: like a credit to him for making this a better
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: role than it probably was.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 10: If it was just some, I don't want to say nobody,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 10: but someone we don't know playing that part, you would
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 10: have to kind of like.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 8: Or just someone a hell of a lot less stoic.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good word.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: His bone structure.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 8: Is doing a lot of leg work.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: And that's the one everybody freaked out about him. At
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: the time. How is he a Norse god? I'm like,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: shut up. Yeah, shut up. It's a different planet anyway.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: They showed that the citizens of Asgard, at least in
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: this movie, are actually pretty diverse.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: Because there were some Asian people running around.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, and that was the thing with Valkyrie, too.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: And that was good. She doesn't match Valkyrie. But then
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: you get in there and like, no, she's Valkyrie. Right.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: This is great casting.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 10: Man, those shots with them on the Pegasus.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 10: Pegasi? Pegasissis?
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Pegasi?
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: Technically flying horses because Pegasus was the name of just
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: one flying horse.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 8: What do they call flying horses in general?
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 9: Flying horses.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: What's a group of them called?
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: In Clash of the Titans, they refer to Pegasus as
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: the last of the winged horses.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 13: Wow.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: Winged horse.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: I need a nap.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 9: But yes, that scene was incredible. That's what I was
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 9: talking about.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: It's like, man, I could watch a whole movie of this.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: Like, what are these women up to?
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 9: What are they doing?
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 10: Wonder Woman did that too. That one, that shot when
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 10: she was telling, again, when she was telling the history
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 10: and it showed like the mount with Olympus on top
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 10: and it was slowly zooming in and she told the story.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 10: Those shots are so great.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: That's, again, but does it work because it's so limited?
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: If you got that for the entire run of a movie,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: would you just not? Or would it be like 300?
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 10: The visuals on that are amazing, but nobody cares.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: By the time you finish watching it, you could care
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: less about what's going on.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 10: I found myself doing it in this movie where I
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 10: was like, that was a little bit Zack Snyder-ish, but.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: It's okay right now for some reason.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 10: I'm okay with it. Yeah, a lot of the fights
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 10: was like, this is kind of music video-ish, but I mean,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 10: sometimes literally. I think Immigrant Song was used twice, like
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 10: almost in sync, but... Yeah, I can see where Zack
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 10: Snyder probably got a little bit of wood watching this movie.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I did, but.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 10: Just when.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 8: He was like, it's my birthday.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 10: I could watch Cate Blanchett walk in slow motion all day.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: We have not discussed Jeff Goldblum's character at all.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: That's why I was trying to get the rundown of cast.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: I really don't think he had a script. I think
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: they're like, and go. Well, actually, I saw that today.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: They said, close to like 80% of the script was improvised.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 9: Really?
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: The whole director. I think overall he wanted it to
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: be a little more, a little more loose, a little
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: more lived in kind of a thing. So I think
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 8: What we do in the shadows, right?
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so much of that was them messing around.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 10: That's best in show level stuff. That's like, okay, this
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 10: is going to kind of happen. Go do it.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: So that's weird to be in this structure of a system.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 10: Oh, and the vampire thing. That was kind of a nod,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 10: wasn't it? When he had the spear with the three.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 10: And he was like, maybe you can kill three vampires.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 8: If they were hungry. And that humor was exactly the
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 8: kind of humor that was in what we're doing. Like
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 8: that small, just like small scale humor that just cuts
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 8: right to your soul.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: That's what I was just, I was trying to get
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: all the characters, the Korg. That, I mean, he kind of... Oh, well,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: that was him, wasn't it?
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: He played that part.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: That is the director. He's doing the voice. But, like, that...
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: He's from Planet Hulk. Him and the little, like, sidekick guy. No, Squeeze?
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: What was it? That was his name, wasn't it? Those
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: were so damn funny. And, like, again, it's that stuff that, like,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: lightened the whole tone of it. that, again, you would
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: expect him to just be a big, gruff rock guy.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: The fact that he's so dorky.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: Well, that voice.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: It's so fun.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: That was not the voice I expected to come out
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 15: Sort of creature.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 8: A little high-pitched Australian accent.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: And very well-spoken.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: And very articulate.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: Very intelligent sounding.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 10: That awkward scene where he kicked the wall after Loki disappeared.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 10: For some reason, that hit me way harder than it should.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 10: He's like, stupid ghost, or whatever he said. I was like,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 10: what just happened? It was such a throw-in at the
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 10: end of the scene there. It didn't even let it land.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 10: It like, cut like right after it was like oh
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 10: my god oh my god yeah well and.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: Just him and the the other guy being dead oh
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: no wait he's alive i've just been carrying him around
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: for a couple hours.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 8: Oh my God, when he called him New Doug.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 8: New Doug.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: But back to that scene that you were talking about
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: where just even the way he brings it up.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: No, Mick's dead. I stepped on him a while ago.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: Just saying it like it's nothing.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 8: I just felt so guilty I've been carrying him around
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 8: all day.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 10: I heard he like... When he described the way he
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 10: was trying to play him, he said he was in
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 10: a pub or something in England, and there was some
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 10: bouncer that was just a wall of meat, but just
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 10: spoke real soft and polite. And he said that was
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 10: so much more terrifying to have someone that big be
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 10: so sincere and polite. And he's like, so that's how
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 10: I played him up.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: You know, that character too, Korg, was in the very
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: first issue of Thor. and one of the first people
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: that Thor ever battled.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 9: I read that today.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 10: I knew it at race. I didn't know him specifically,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 10: because I think him specifically, he's in Planet Hulk, but
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 10: I didn't know he had that direct title.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was reading trivia about the movie today,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: and it was talking about how the very first issue,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: it's like the Meteor Men from Mars or something is
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: the name of the story, but he's one of the
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: first people that Thor ever battled.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 10: He didn't kill him, did he? I don't think so.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 10: That's cool. Man, it seems like Marvel's been really good
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 10: with deep cuts.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 12: Oh, yeah.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 10: There's been a lot of comic reference stuff all over
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 10: the place.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 9: Well, like you mentioned earlier, the whole Beta Ray Bill thing.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that was, man. But him mentioning the frog version
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 10: of Thor, even, because what was it? What is he
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 10: called in frog version? Because the hammer's called, like, Frognear.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 10: Everything is like, there's an, see, I don't know a
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 10: whole lot about, I know that something has happened where
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 10: there is, an animal version of the Avengers. There's a
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 10: whole comic thing where, like, a pig is Spider-Man, it's Spider-Pig.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: Spider, yeah.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 10: Frog is Thor.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: The Spider-Pig thing took on.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: A whole life of its own.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 10: There's a whole Avengers of them in animal form. And
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 10: I think that's what the frog reference was lightly doing, was, like,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 10: the frog version of Thor when Loki, when I said
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 10: something about Loki turning him into a frog at one point.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there's tons of things that even, like, the
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: most dedicated fanboys wouldn't do.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 12: Man.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 9: Wouldn't even pick up on.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 10: Just like watching Easter egg videos on YouTube with these
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 10: movies blows me away sometimes. You'll just find stuff in
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 10: the background.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: It's like, wow. If we're doing minor little in jokes,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: this isn't even necessarily of the universe, but just for
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: us in the audience. Let's talk about the play that
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: was going on there.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 9: Oh, my God. And the casting.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: And it's, like, layered.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: Because you get, like, the main joke is Loki.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 10: That was the actor dude's brother playing the other Thor, though, right?
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: The main joke is Loki. But then if you're not
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: paying attention and you go through the credits, it's Luke
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: Hemsworth that's playing Thor. And then Sam Neill is Odin. So, like,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: this and this, we were talking about weird people in
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: the audience next to us. This was the funny part
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: to me. was the strange couple that was sitting next
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: to me and had actually been quiet pretty much the
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: entire movie. And afterwards, we're kind of all loitering around,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: waiting for the stingers. And, like, I hear them talking,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: and they're like, she immediately IDs Luke Kemsworth, the lesser
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: known of the three. They reference Sam Neill, going, oh,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen Sam Neill in a long time. Now,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: who is Loki?
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 9: I'm like, wait.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: Wow. The biggest, like one, again, A-list star that they
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: brought in for a weird cameo is the one of
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: the three. You got the other Hemsworth boy, but you
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: didn't get the, oh my God.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's what Loki.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: It was the Saturday. Saturday night.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 8: Because I was going to say, I think Luke Hemsworth
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 8: was on Saturday Night Live.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: So I was going to say- That would probably help
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 8: You'd be freshening your brain, but no.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: But still. The lesser known of those three. Although at
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: this point, I guess most people might not recognize Sam Neill.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: But between the two.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 9: I didn't realize it was him.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: But at least I did him. But yeah, like knowing
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: the other Hemsworth, but not knowing who... Matt Damon. Fucking
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: Matt Damon is in one of the funnier cameos of
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: his career.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 8: I did hear about a lot of people being like,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 8: but wait, he looks so familiar. Who's that? And then
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 8: not realizing until the credits are rolling.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: I really wish.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 8: Because he is such a generic looking dude.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: And maybe there's some sort of contractual thing to where
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: he can't do it, but I really wish that in
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: the play, the Thor in the play would have been
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: Ben Affleck. And that distracted me from that scene because
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that would.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 10: Be so fucking sweet. And then Kevin Smith is Odie.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: Well, technically he was Loki before, so that's who he is. Yeah,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: that's true.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 14: Interesting.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: I just thought that was pretty damn funny and even
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: funnier that that's the one than the person next to me.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: I had no idea who it was. I'm like, how
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: do you not know freaking Matt Damon?
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 10: He's in everything.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: Well, the fact that you would, would any of the
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: hymns or hymns or whatever, any of Thor's brothers other
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: than Thor. Yeah.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: At this point. Yeah. Any of the other two. Cause
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: I'm still, you're lucky if I don't call him Thor.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 9: Really?
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, Because that's how I refer to him. I'm like, oh, look,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: it's Thor.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm like, oh, look, it's a movie. I'm like, oh, look,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: it's Thor's brother. It's Thor's brother.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: Who let him in the Expendables?
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: And that is how I will refer to him until
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: either he or I am dead.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: I thought that was a fun little tie-in. Again, lightening
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: up the whole Loki thing to where, like, that's the
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: level of what he's been doing these last two years. Just, like,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: glorifying himself in a bad play form.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 14: I thought that was pretty fun.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 10: It was strange that they killed off all his buddies
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 10: so unceremoniously.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: Thor's friends.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 10: When Hela first showed up, it was like, oh, everyone
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 10: that's been in past Thor movies, dead.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: The one.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 10: Asian guy got to fight her a little bit tougher,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 10: but man, his other buddies at the gate.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: Except the one, the other girl was, I think they
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: might have a loophole on her.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 10: Sylph?
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: Is Sylph still alive? Yeah, I think she's, well, it's
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: one of those, I don't think we saw her, did we?
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: Because that girl is supposed to, was supposed to be
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: in there and like in the real world was shooting
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: her TV show and like just couldn't be there.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 10: So they didn't film her technically?
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I think even the director was like, within the storyline,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: created like she was on a mission somewhere else. And
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: then they just never referenced it. So within his version
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: of the story, I think she's still alive. But on screen,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: we just have no idea. Like, we just guess the
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: scene she got killed.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 10: They should let it go. Because I feel like they
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 10: intended for her to be the romantic interest. And I
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 10: feel like now it has to be Valkyrie.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: That's where I feel like they're going. Because now we've definitely,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: which again, I think is very real world. oriented the
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: fact that we very specifically worked jane out of this
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: one yeah oh yeah he's like oh no no i
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: i it was a mutual uh and when in the
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: real world she just does that.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 10: I'm telling you that first 15 minutes including the play
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 10: was just like here's everything you need to know about
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 10: thor pretty.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: Much yep Which, again, it's been a long time. So
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: it's like, for people that only have watched the Avengers movies...
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: Especially since the second movie didn't do as well. Yeah,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: the second movie didn't do that well. A lot of
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: people probably didn't see that one at all. If they
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: saw the first one, it's been a long time ago.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's been forever since I've seen it.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen it that one time.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 10: I'm telling you, watching it, and it's so much... There's barely...
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 10: It's not like Conan level of minimal talking, but there's
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 10: not a whole lot of talking in it. It surprised
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 10: me to watch it again and see how much just slow...
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 10: shots at a background that first movie has.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: The only thing i remember from the first thor movie
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: is where he goes in the pet store and he's
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: like just give me something i can ride and apart
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: from that i don't remember much about that.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: Movie i just remember it's so fish out of water
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: like it's so played standard like it could be anybody
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: like it does not seem like it has to be
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: a marvel movie or thor or anything like it could
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: be like one or twelve other well no it's like
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: i said.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 10: It's kind of that same thing.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: But like we've seen like several other movies over the
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: years that's like a medieval guy gets transported to the
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: modern day and i'm like it's that exact same scenario
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: it just happens to be thor in this one and
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: then we work in that the crazy science and all
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: this other nonsense that comes into play but Yeah, it
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: does not really have to be Thor to work into
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: that generic scenario.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 8: I felt that the first one, it had, because of that,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 8: it had that kind of, like, silly humor and dramatic balance.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 8: The second one was all drama.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 8: All drama. And then this one's, like, crank up the silly. Right.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: Because there was no Kat Denny. Which oddly seems sort
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: of out of place, but was still maybe my favorite
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: part of that movie.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 5: Like.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: She doesn't really fit at all, but yet is the
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: most effective comedy in the whole thing. So, I don't know.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: I'm still not sure how they suckered Natalie Portman in
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: the first and second time around. So, the fact that
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: that is why I think Jane has been successfully worked
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: out is because she does not want to do any
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: more Marvel, period.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 10: For me, this is just personal opinion as a comic
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 10: reader of Thor. He's one of those people... In general,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 10: I don't really care for romantic relationships. With comic characters
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 10: like Thor, Morse, I was like, god of lightning, you
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 10: want me to care about him, his dating life? Or like, yeah,
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 10: why would he be.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: Bothered with that kind of nonsense? Let alone us.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 10: That's why early on I was like, I mean, I
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 10: guess he's going to have a girlfriend, but it doesn't
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 10: bother me at all that they're kind of like, yeah,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 10: let's just move on.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 8: At least they didn't play Coldplay.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 14: Sparks.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 7: Oh God.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: But no, I felt like that is because they've now
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: successfully worked her out and with a real world reason,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: like if they want to pursue that, it's certainly also
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: more fitting that he ends up with someone like Valkyrie,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: who's sort of along those same lines in his world
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: on that level. Like, It seemed really weird that just
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: some random science nerd from Earth is like who he's
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: going to hang out with. So this, yeah, it's a
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: little more fitting that he ended up with her. And
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: she's kind of awesome.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 9: Well, I like the way he flirted with her.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: It's like, I wanted to be a Valkyrie until I
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: realized they weren't women. Which, I'm okay with that.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: Which, again, working in a very Amazonian thing, the actress,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think it had anything to do with anyone
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: on the character level. But supposedly, in reading stuff earlier today,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: announced that she... According to her, Valkyrie is bi, which
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, is that just because there were a whole
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: lot of chicks around here? Like, why did that need
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: to be brought up? This is such a weird, let's
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: work a backstory and it's not really there.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: You know, we're in an interesting time with all of
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 3: that sort of progression anyway, which, you know.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: But there's definitely a little chemistry there with Thor. So
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: I guess you have to be like, well, no, that
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: could happen too. But by the way, she also likes girls.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: Alright I just thought it was again not that that
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: came down from not that I read anything from the
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: Marvel end of it that was just the actor I'm
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: like so you were playing it though like how else
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: does that factor in other than that's what you were
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: bringing to the character in your mind but it didn't
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: really come through on screen but that was your character
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: pull I.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 8: Don't know maybe the friend of hers that got stabbed
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 8: in front of her was.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 10: A girlfriend that was her chick could be yeah could
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 10: very well be maybe so I remember like she was
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 10: gonna be upset hearing a Stan Lee respond to um
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 10: someone at a convention was like that you could tell
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 10: they wanted him to be mad and they were like
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 10: so you know how do you feel about ice man
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 10: being gay now and stanley was like he is like
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 10: he's seriously like shrugged he's like.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: And i just sign off on things like that and
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: i'm like yeah i don't i don't care about the sexuality.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 8: That's the least important thing about them is who they're fucking.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: Like So I don't know.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 10: I'm just with Stanley on that. It's like, I mean,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 10: if it's important to you to, feel like they would
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 10: go a certain gender, cool. But it's like, I don't
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 10: read comics for dating. Like I said, I find that
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 10: in most comics, if there's dating going on, Peter Parker
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 10: would be the closest win because he's trying.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: To date, but he can't quite get through. He's supposed
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: to be in that scenario.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 10: Yeah, if like half the comic or a fraction of
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 10: the comic is going to be dating, it's like, that's.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: Not why I read comics.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 14: Hey, love and rockets.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: That's why.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, that's why I read Archie.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: That's true. He's got a scenario there. That's a tough one.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: We all had two hot girls that were out of
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: our league.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: We all play Betty and Veronica every day, right?
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 10: Did you notice that Stan Lee's garb kind of looked
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 10: like a watcher?
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: He had that watcher thing. They're still playing it up.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about that cameo for a second. That was
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: the most ridiculous Stanley cameo ever.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: And that's saying something. Because he's had some pretty ridiculous games.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 10: They had to make him stand out next to Jeff Goldblum.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: I know. Again, I laughed my ass off.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: I thought it was funny, but it's like you've got
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: this big weird haircutting machine that is not going to
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: cut anybody's.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: Hair in any sort of practical sense. And then you have.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: Thor freaking out about how he's going to get a haircut.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: It is weird. When we got to the first trailers
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: for this, I was like, Where does hair go? Well,
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: I was just like, whose call was that?
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 10: Because you could see both. You could see shots with
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 10: their long hair.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: But then mostly it was just him with the short hair.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, whose call was that? Was it like,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: I'm shooting another movie now. I've got short hair, so
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: work it in. Or do you want me or not?
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: I was wondering if it was more of a real world.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: I'm tired of either growing my hair out or wearing
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: a horrible wig all the time. So I wondered if
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: it was more of a practical, look, this is just
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: my hair. Let's work with it. But, again, in looking
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: at stuff today, according to this, it is based on, like,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: when you went to, you know, fight in the gladiator arena,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: you went to, like, a gladiator school, and they cut,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: I guess, in a very military, going back that far,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: when they brought you into the military school, they cut
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: your hair. I don't remember hearing that in the past,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: but according to.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: So many layers to this freaking movie.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: Like, if you believe all these lies on the internet,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: that's what they.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 15: Said, so.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's a real thing.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: Well, if you notice, the Hulk had kind of a
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: military haircut as well, but Banner did not.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: Well, again, Mark had something else to shoot that week.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: Which, I don't know. That's another... I don't know that
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: I fully was on board with the this is going
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: to kill Banner thing. And I still feel like that.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 10: That's the impression I got because it.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: He made it very clear. If I turn again... That's
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: certainly what he was saying. I can't come back. But again,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: he likes to overplay that. Like, he gets so, like,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: freaked out about the whole thing. Good reason. But, like,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: it also, like, he's just so, like, crazy about it
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: that I wasn't sure if he was just overselling that.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 10: If you're gonna do a whole trilogy in space, what
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 10: would Banner do, though?
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 10: Like, if he's Banner even half the time, like, what
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 10: does human Banner do?
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: But, again, I think the thing they finally found that
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: works is, number one, Hulk needs to be a side character. Yes.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen two failed Hulk movies, and every
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: time people love him is when he's part of the team,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: and because so much of his screen time, he's Banner.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: And they found, again, no offense to the previous Banners, but, like,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: Mark is good at being banner. Like, and that was
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: what was hard to do on the other ones is
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: you didn't really care about them. Just get to the
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: Hulk where I'm like, I'm just, I love Edward. No, he's,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: he's not, again, he's not charismatic in that way. Right.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: Can be, he can be interesting to watch, but like
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: you don't really, you're not invested in him as the guy.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: Like, right.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: We're like Mark Ruffalo, you buy the humanity in him
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: and this weird battle that he's going through that he's
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: scared to death of this thing that lives inside him.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: And what it's going to do.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: Which that's something that I like that they bring to
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: these movies.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 9: They're like, okay, we need you to Hulk out.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: And he's like, no. I don't want to. And even
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: when he finally comes to terms with how it is
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: useful to him, he still kind of hates that that's
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: who it is. So again, I think that part of
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: it is what makes it work. So I think if
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: they're taking that.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 10: Out, it's probably a mistake.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: That's just my opinion.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: But I feel like that's the part that has worked
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: with this new version of Hulk is how we play it.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: With this movie, there was a point where I was like,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: he's been the Hulk for a while. Are we going
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: to see Bruce Banner?
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And that weird, why was it stuck on? So
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: much of it, I think, was because you see the
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: only thing that brought him out of it was Scarlet.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: He's sort of dealing with his weird. So it does
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: play into that. If there is a reason, I guess,
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: for it to be dating, the relationship between him and
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: Black Widow is important.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 10: In the comic, his girl was the only one that
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 10: was going to bring him out of it.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 10: With all the fights he had with all kinds of
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 10: huge people, it still always came down to find her.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 10: Find her. Get her out here right now. She needs
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 10: to bring him down. I kind of wonder with how
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 10: much more talking he's doing now and stuff, I wonder
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 10: if they'll use these movies to have him go gray.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 10: Because in the comic, Gray Hulk is really Banner in
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 10: full control of the Hulk. Then it's like he's smart
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 10: and strong. So I kind of wonder if they'll do...
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 10: Because he can't talk like a child for two more movies.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's hard to make that. I
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: think he's going to go gray or red.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 10: If they really want to push it. Red was way
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 10: more recent. And that's technically a bad guy if they
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 10: want to blur that. But I think he'll probably at
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 10: least go gray to where Mark can just talk. and
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 10: not because it was cute but he was kind of
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 10: a grumpy angry little six-year-old yeah it.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: Was it was kind of bratty after a while it
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: was fun.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 10: Throwing the ball on the wall and stuff was like
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 10: kind of cracking me up i liked how he just
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 10: kind of acted like a kid and he was kind
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 10: of okay with everything.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: It yeah i mean it works but again in in
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: a much broader way to go i but i also
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: think that's going to tie into or i would hope
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: that it's going to tie into the black widow thing
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: and like Is that the reason he's had, like, not
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: so much that, like, without her there, he couldn't get
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: out of it, is that he didn't want to. Because
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: if he's, like, going to go away, that was the
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: main reason he went away, is, like, he didn't want
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: to hurt everyone in general on the planet. But he
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: was so worried about her. Like, I don't want you
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: to be drug into this life that I have. You
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: still have a chance to have a real life. And
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's why he left. And then part
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: of that was also like, I'm just going to retreat
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: completely into, again, maybe not even conscious. I'm going to
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: retreat completely into Hulk mode where also I don't have
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: to think about not being with you when I really
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: want to be with you. I think that was kind of,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know. That's how I was kind of reading it.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: Hulk also mentioned that on that planet, they treated him
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: like a hero.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: Whereas on Earth, everyone treats him like he's a monster.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: Hates me, yeah.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 10: Like, in the comic, he was shot off of Earth,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 10: and that's how Planet Hulk happened. Just to get him
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 10: off of the planet. All the Megas, Strange and Xavier,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 10: all the Megas got together, and they're like, get him.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: Off this planet. You're too dangerous.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 9: Go away.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 10: And they just shot him out into space. So, yeah, like,
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 10: he wouldn't, if you want to try to kind of
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 10: maintain that meta, he wouldn't feel welcome at Earth at
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 10: all right now.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, I felt like that was, to me, that
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: was part of why he was Hulk all the time
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: was being away from her and not wanting to deal
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: with the reason they had to be away from her.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: So again, if we're getting back into Infinity War and
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: he's going to have to come back.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 10: Does she die and that triggers a crazy uber rage?
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like, is there, because he.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 3: As much as I'd hate to see that character die,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: that would be sweet.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 9: That would be awesome.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 10: They've said themselves there's going to be a lot of death.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 10: They're going to go this route and they're going to
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 10: kill a lot of these people in this big fight.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 10: Like I said, in the comic, almost everyone dies. So
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 10: I expect, as much as it's lame, I hope they
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 10: can find something else. But there's got to be some
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 10: kind of reset. Some kind of soft reset. Because so
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 10: many people are.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 9: Going to die.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 10: So much is going to change. I don't understand how
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 10: you have a phase four, whatever's next.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: Or they're just going to pick what they're... feel like
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: they've run through, which I've said forever. I assume that's...
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: But I think he's still signed on to do Robert
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: Downey Jr. I feel like he wanted out a while ago,
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: and that's why he's not going to do any more
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: Iron Man.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 10: I heard Jr. is liking it again now, and he's like,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 10: I'll do more Iron Man if you want.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I assumed they were going to kill him
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: off early on.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 10: But that kind of makes sense what early... I heard
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 10: rumors that part of the next phase will be that
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 10: the Kree will have been impersonating some of the Avengers.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 10: I don't know if that'll happen during Infinity War stuff,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 10: but at some point, someone that we've thought is good
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 10: all along is going to actually be a Kree in disguise.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 10: What if that was Tony?
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know. But I feel like maybe they're
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: going to start picking ones that they feel like they've
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: done the run. So again, if we're at the end
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: of Tony or Thor, again, if it's time to, so
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: maybe it is one of those, they all get kind
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: of killed. But then we reboot them with new, so
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: maybe there's a new Valkyrie version of Thor. That's what
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 10: That's what supposedly they're doing. And that's what War Machine
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 10: fully steps up to be the new Iron Man. Or
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 10: the beginning of, like I said, Falcon.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 10: I think Falcon's going to get America's shield. That happened
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 10: in the comic at one point. He got his shield.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's probably where we're going. It didn't
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: go over well, though.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 10: If it didn't do well in the comic, are you
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 10: going to try that on TV?
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: But.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 10: Technically, he took the shield back after Civil War, so
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 10: Falcon could have that shield if he wants to start
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 10: using it, too.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: He's still in hiding, too, right?
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 10: He was with the team captain. Oh, yeah, he's locked
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 10: up in that ocean.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: Or they all just took off. Like, they broke out,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: but they're all kind of in hiding now, more or less.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: I thought that was the end of Civil War.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 10: Did they get out?
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: They escaped, but they're all in hiding now. Because it
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: was basically... okay we're not part of the team but
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: if you need us tony you know and again.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 10: Yeah because i think that's going again off the off
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 10: the comic at the end of the civil war stuff
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 10: there were some that were still like no fuck you
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 10: we're still not signing we're still not filling anything out
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 10: and it was the people that were kicking it with
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 10: captain america like wolverine and some people like that because
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 10: x-men were involved in the comics yeah they're still in
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 10: hiding and stuff and still trying to do that thing
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 10: so but I don't know. I mean, Captain America is
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 10: still alive. They're going to do a nomad thing. I
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 10: think with him is where he's Captain America unofficially. So
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 10: maybe he'll be, I don't know.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 10: This next movie is going to be tough. There's like
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 10: 45 heroes and villains in it. How do you, how
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 10: do you do that?
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. And it's so wide open now because we've,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: we've taken care of some of the other stuff. We've
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: finished off a lot of these other little stories. And
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: now we've opened it up to such new weird, like
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: with adding Guardians and Doctor Strange, it now gets super universal,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: crazy science, crazy not science, whatever magic is going on
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: with Doctor Strange.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 10: I think that's why those comics blew me away a bit,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 10: is that it's weird for time to have an entity,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 10: and existence has an entity. All these cosmic things all
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 10: of a sudden have these weird, trippy... Personifications that people
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 10: can talk to and deal with or they have to,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 10: you know, work it out with. Like, when Thanos is, like,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 10: wrecking havoc, like, these kind of uber-cosmic entities start kind
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 10: of showing up. Like, what are you doing? You're ripping
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 10: up the fabric of everything. So, I mean, it would be.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: It is really.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 10: And I kind of said it before with Guardians, how
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 10: everything's crazy and kooky in space. They're using space to
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 10: reveal all the weird stuff of comics. Not to say weird, bad,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 10: but some of the stuff that gets a little loose.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good way to kind of work
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: it in.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: Because especially when you keep showing them back on Earth
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: and they're like, I don't know what to think anymore.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 9: Because we've got aliens.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: Things are crazy.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: But I think that was a good way to deal
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 3: with the realistic side of it.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: Because in the comics.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: Something goes on and people are just like, oh, there's
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: a Spider-Man.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 9: He's fantastic.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 12: Cool.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: But in the movies, they've been like, my whole world
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 3: has been turned upside down and I don't know what
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: to do here.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: Again, I know so little about what's going to happen
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: in this next movie. So I really don't, like, everything
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: is just kind of wide open at this point. It's
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: wide open for everybody.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 10: I think when things started as a comic reader, I
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 10: was like, oh, well, this is where it's going to
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 10: get to. But to be like one step away and
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 10: be like, whoa, this is nowhere near the comic still.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 10: Because in the comic, Adam Warlock should be the main
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 10: guy pushing all of this. And we don't even have
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 10: him yet. He's going to show up in the movie
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 10: where in the comic, he was the ringleader bringing everyone
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 10: together to fight Thanos. So even as a comic reader,
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 10: it's like, what is going to go on? Like, you've completely... Again,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 10: Lady Death isn't... Not Lady Death, that's a whole other.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 10: Goddess of Death. You know, we don't actually have her
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 10: as a character. It'd probably be hella, but still, just for...
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 10: It'd be like doing Romeo and Juliet, not having a
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 10: Romeo or a Juliet. It's like, okay, well, how it
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 10: is going to go then? Like, we don't have these
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 10: main characters, yet it's about to happen.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 12: So.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 13: It is.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: weird not knowing where any of this is going except
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: to some.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 10: Big huge payoff into a restart and probably somehow some
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 10: kind of soft restart so you can keep doing these
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 10: movies obviously if there's still two more hulks at least
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 10: one will be infinity war at least i think that
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 10: third one have to be after yeah yeah well he's
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 10: definitely next week yeah he will definitely be one of
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 10: the new avengers Yeah.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: Captain Marvel hasn't even. She'll be the new Iron Man. So, yeah.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: That'll absolutely. We haven't even kicked that off yet.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 10: And she'll be what'll probably bring in. I bet Tony
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 10: Stark is Kree because she would be the perfect person
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 10: to introduce to Kree as like the space Nazis and
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 10: start doing that whole.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 10: And if they get Fantastic Four back, that's perfect because
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 10: that's their main villains. Yeah, maybe that's why they kind
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 10: of put Marvel, because they kind of pushed her and
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 10: pushed her. Maybe they're like, we got these things with
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 10: Fox coming up. Maybe we can get it in time,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 10: so we'll keep pushing her up.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: Way past Infinity War, so no doubt.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that would be good. It'd be perfect with Guardians
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 10: of the Galaxy 2. Just merge those two guys together
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 10: and it could be a lot of fun.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: Well, I gotta give Marvel credit because by the time
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 3: we got to the second Avengers movie, I was like,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 3: I'm done.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 9: I can't I.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: Can't keep track of all this stuff.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean, I've said it several times. It's like,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to fall for it. I'm not going
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 3: to get into it. But then something would come along
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 3: where I'd be like, well, shit, I really want to
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 3: see the new Captain America movie, but I'm going to
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 3: watch this bullshit.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: I don't want to watch Ant-Man, damn it.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and now with this and with the last Guardians
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 3: movie and with the last Avengers and with Doctor Strange,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: I'm on the edge of my seat and I'm like,
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 3: give me Black Panther. Give me You know, the next
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 3: Avengers movie. Give me another Hulk movie.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 10: I think Blame Panther is going to be monstrous.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 9: Oh, my God.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 10: Again, I think they don't know. I think it'll be
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 10: like Civil War again, money-wise. I think Blame Panther is
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 10: just going to kill it. And February, come on. Black
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 10: Panther in February?
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, normally that's a dumping ground. This movie is
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: going to make so much money. When you're going to
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: have no competition.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of pressure writing on that movie for...
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 3: For a social standpoint. But from what I've seen in
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: the trailer, it looks like it's going to pay off.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I mean, this is actually something good to
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: go see.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Again, looking at studios and producers,
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of people forget that audience. And, like, we're talking...
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: how much fucking money tyler perry movie makes and they're
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: terrible but oh but that's i don't know i haven't
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: seen maybe any of them but i'm like just looking
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: at like the money that those will rake in when
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: it's boo too you know and i'm just like if
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: you gave something that actually had something to be proud
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: right like that audience i would hope i mean social
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: things aside it looks like it's a good which it
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: should be a good movie i mean they They should
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: take the character seriously.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 3: They should, because like I said, there's a lot riding
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: on it. They should be able to say, okay, here's
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 3: something that we can back up and that is, regardless
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 3: of all the equality part.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 9: Of it, it's just a good movie.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 3: Because that's really how you make progress, is you give
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 3: people something good.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 10: I heard it was written as a Bond film.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 12: Really?
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 10: Which surprised me from the trailer.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: Seriously.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 10: I heard that it was written that it is going
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 10: to feel like a James Bond movie. And that it
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 10: will be Black Panther going off doing these missions, international missions.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 10: It's more about them starting to get discovered, so he's
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 10: doing whatever, these international missions, but it's actually being cut
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 10: like a Bond movie.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, he does live in like a Bond villain lair.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: It's the new Star Tower, period.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 10: The next wave, that'll be where they get together, he.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: Is pretty much a bond villain except except he's a
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 3: zero a superhero yeah but even the the villain there
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 3: is very bond villainy.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 10: Now yeah it bugs me he doesn't have an accent
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 10: after watching a trailer like 10 times like why is
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 10: killmonger not speaking african he's speaking like he's from the
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 10: hood everyone else is speaking like they're from africa but
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 10: you're from africa too so like I don't know, that
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 10: kind of bugged me because I was like, that's a
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 10: little detail, but it's kind of a big detail. You
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 10: don't speak like everyone else from Africa. You're talking like
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 10: you're from the streets.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: I don't understand.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 8: Well, maybe we'll find out in the movie that there's
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 8: some reason for that.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: He's like, some eye of him yelling.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 10: I'm like, you're yelling like you're a thug on the
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 10: street right now, but everyone else has this great English
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 10: accent going on. I'm like, why are you not getting.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 3: What's the guy's name who's playing Black Panther?
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 10: I might not forget that dude.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 3: Well, regardless, that guy, I could listen to him talk
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 3: for like weeks at a time.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. It's also got like, they should
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: make a good movie regardless. Right. Here's our hero. We're
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: going to make a good movie. But the fact that
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: it is like, is deep rooted in history, even if
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: it's their made up history, like it is like showing
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: this country, this continent, this, this entire world, that most
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: people have no idea what's going on about and could
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: care less about.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 10: Techno Africa?
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like Blade Runner Africa. Yeah, it's basically just
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: putting a new spin on it, but at the same
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: time giving kind of something to be proud of, of
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: this entire heritage.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 10: Oh, no doubt.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: That gets overlooked by everybody. You can go on YouTube.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 10: You can go on YouTube.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: That heritage sometimes.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 10: And watch reaction videos.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 10: Black people are just crying. Just crying in a trailer
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 10: because it's the first time. And it's not even like
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 10: Blade where it's like, oh, it's.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: A black hero. No, look at the cast. Look at
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: that fucking poster.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 10: It's a hilarious fucking meme, but everyone is black except
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 10: for the two white dudes. From Lord of the Rings,
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 10: who are the Tolkien white guys. But seriously, look at
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 10: a poster. I mean, this is the first time, not
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 10: only is it about a black hero, but it's a
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 10: black cast. This is an entirely for you movie, which
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 10: is what.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: Wonder Woman did for women recently. And it should be
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: fucking normal.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 8: And this should be not even a big deal.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 10: And I think that's what this will do, to be like, look,
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 10: because you've got to convince someone it'll make money.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: I'm fine.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 10: Fucking fortunately, and that's what this will do. Be like, no,
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 10: there's a market for this. Don't be a racist dick
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 10: and make this stuff.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 3: I think outside of just the black audience, I really
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 3: do think this is going to appeal to everybody.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 3: I think there are going to be people who 10
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 3: years ago would have said, a black superhero, what the fuck?
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 3: I think they're going to be the first ones in
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 3: line to go watch the movie. And again, this is
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 3: all based on the three-minute trailer I watched yesterday, and
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 3: it blew my mind.
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the same thing I said about Wonder
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: Woman is like, I think the most functional thing it
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: can do is make people not even pay attention to that. Exactly.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: It's like, I'm just here because this superhero kicks ass.
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: The whole Joss Whedon thing. Not that they're a woman,
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: not that they're black, that just superhero is my hero.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 8: It's because it's not going to be a black superhero
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 8: that plays on black stereotypes.
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: It's not black lightning.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 10: And as much as I love Luke Cage, Luke Cage
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 10: is literally black superhero.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 8: From what I've heard, the African things in it are accurate.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: And that's very good.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 3: Because I would hate for them to have this good movie,
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 3: this great movie, otherwise, and then you have a whole
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 3: subset of people who actually know about that stuff.
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 3: And they're like, what are you doing to this?
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 8: Like, apparently, the scarification and all that stuff.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 3: That was impressive, first of all. That looked very real. And,
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I am pumped for this movie. I
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 3: have not been this excited about a movie... that's this
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 3: far away in like a while.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 8: Where geographically in africa is it supposed to be like
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 8: the it's.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 10: Like near south africa it's near south africa i want
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 10: to say near the southern tip.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 3: And unfortunately i i know nothing about the character of
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 3: black panther but i still want to see this freaking
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 3: movie i mean i you know i am this.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 8: Fucking all-star cast michael b jordan i love michael b jordan.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: Which i think this is part of it too is
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: like you because there's so few people that know much
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: about it that you kind of have free reign to
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: be like okay even if we're not going to be
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: 100 to the comic we can create what we want
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 1: it to be what we need it to be it's
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: like especially to fit into this universe now and like
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: you can bring everybody in kind of from the get-go
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: it's like we already had this great introduction to him
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: in civil war so it's like from this point on
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: it's just like everybody's going to be a Black Panther
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: fan because we're in on the ground floor. It's like
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: you can just come in now, explain whatever backstory you want,
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: and be like, look how badass this guy is. You'll
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: be right.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 3: When I heard he was going to be in Civil War,
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, big deal. Because I know nothing
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 3: about that character because it's kind of, Black Panther to me,
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 3: like I knew he existed, but it seemed like he'd
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 3: just sort of been swept under the rug.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: For all these years.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 3: And a guy pops up on screen and he puts
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 3: the suit on. And delivers an amazing performance. And I
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 3: remember saying, that's the next movie I want to see.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 3: I want to see a Black Panther movie. So thank you, Marvel.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: For listening. And for seemingly putting together a good version
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: of this movie.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 8: Just like the one line that they use in the trailer,
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 8: I feel like that sends chills down my spine.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 13: Which line?
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: I don't... You are a good man.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: It's hard for a good man to be king.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 3: I think I was so excited I couldn't hear.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 3: If that's possible, I don't know.
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 14: So, we have something to look forward to.
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 10: Just not in two weeks.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, we'll probably be back before
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: then to talk about superheroes.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 3: I was more excited by that trailer than I was
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 3: by the Star Wars trailer.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 9: Of course, Star Wars.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: You.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 3: Tell me Star Wars is coming out, okay, I'm already
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 3: in line.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 9: No problem.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 14: That's yet to be seen. I guess we'll be back
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 14: for that.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 9: As well.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 3: It's just a little bit over a month away.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's a lot to deal with, too, really. Because
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: we haven't continued those characters for two years now, so
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: it's a lot riding on this, too, going that next step.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 10: I kind of feel like it's becoming a bit too
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 10: much of a whodunit. In a sense that it seems
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 10: like JJ's being way... Abrams didn't do this.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 12: One, though, did he?
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 3: Not this one.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: I guess he established it in the first one. He's
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: coming back, it sounds like.
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 10: This mystery box stuff... Because, again... I scour trailers. The
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 10: moment a trailer drops, I'm like, I watch it 10 times,
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 10: and I'm watching videos, getting all the Easter eggs. And
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 10: that trailer, trust me, is opening up a million new questions.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 10: Like, literally, at this point, anyone can be good or bad.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: Anyone. And you're just like, where is Star Wars going?
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 3: Like, you don't even know who's good.
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: And bad anymore.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 3: I am certain that trailer has been edited in such
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 3: a way to be so misleading.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 1: There's some really.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 10: The scene with Rey going to grab Kylo's hand, if
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 10: you look in the background, two.
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: Completely different scenes.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 10: Two completely different scenes.
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: They did that last time, too, though. They built up
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: so much that we thought that the other character was
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: going to be the one learning the Force and having
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: the lightsaber.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like everyone in this room has seen enough
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 3: movies and enough trailers to know that what you see
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 3: in the trailer is not what's going to be in
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 3: the movie.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 10: But we're not the bulk of The population is trying
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 10: to spur you like, let's edit this.
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 3: That's why I've been avoiding reading all the bullshit fan theories.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 3: Just like with episode seven, whichever one that was, The
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 3: whole thing about, oh, is Luke Kylo Ren and all that,
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 3: you know, it's like.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, basically, it's just everybody doing the same thing
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: as we did for years. Like, we just stood around
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: having these conversations, but now the internet is just.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 10: We just didn't have the ability to get to everyone. Like,
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 10: it was just our opinions in the room.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 9: Now it's like.
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: And we're now infesting the rest of the world with that.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 10: This is why there were so many fights in comic
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 10: book shops.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: Seriously, this is why geeky kids beat each other up
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 1: out in front of comic shops because you got an
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: argument over whether Boba Fett was dead or not.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 9: Which time?
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: After he got belched out the first time.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 10: Man, this Han Solo movie has me scared to death.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 10: I'm not feeling anything coming out of this.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 3: I'm worried that that's going to be like the Ewok movies.
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 10: Right there with you.
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 4: What?
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: Those were great. Sounds like a great idea.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 3: Then you sit down and watch it and you're like,
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 3: oh man.
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: Is it also going to have Wilford Brimley? Because that'd
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: be pretty awesome.
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 12: Yes.
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, Brian.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 9: That's all I need.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: He's still out there.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 3: He's going to be somebody.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 9: He'll be Jabba the Hutt.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: Alright.
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 10: It is interesting that I can say having watched a
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 10: Justice League trailer, I've watched at least four or five times,
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 10: I have no idea what that movie's about.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 10: Which is weird because most movies it's the other way around.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: And it seems like there's a very key point that
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 1: I felt like was gonna happen after the last movie
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: and well after the last Batman v Superman and then
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: like I've heard all these fan theories about what is
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: going to happen but It is nowhere in that trailer.
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 13: No.
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 1: If we're, again, not the spoiling thing. There's two huge
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: spoilers that apparently. There's a huge Superman angle that like
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: there is not an ounce of Superman in that trailer.
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 10: Well, and Green Lantern. Apparently Green Lantern is the other
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 10: thing that, unconfirmed, but apparently the rumors are that they
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 10: somehow kept Green Lantern under wraps this whole time He's
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 10: just going to show up in it.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 8: Don't ruin Green Lantern.
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: I think we already had a movie do that.
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 3: The stand-up that I was talking about at the theater,
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 3: if I remember correctly, features Superman and The Flash, but
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 3: no Green Lantern.
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 9: No Green Lantern.
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 10: Yeah apparently that's the rumor is that because i've seen
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 10: some small talk where they're like dc's got this huge
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 10: surprise and they're actually getting away with it it better.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 3: Be that's part of martian man because why he's not
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 3: part of this already.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 10: I'm with you i'm a he i actually like him
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 10: in supergirl i wouldn't mind if they just grabbed him
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 10: over like.
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: But they never do that well because.
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 10: He's barely even martian man hunter on super.
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah i know there's There's never been a version. Megan's
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: even in it too.
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 10: And it's like, oh, why are you both walking around
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 10: as humans all the time?
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 3: There's never been a version of Justice League where he's
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 3: not in there somewhere.
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 10: I agree. Cyborg didn't need to be there. In my head,
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 10: Cyborg's gone and Manhunter and Green Lantern are in there
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 10: with them. But, you know, DC wants it. They're trying.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 10: They've still been pushing Cyborg so hard. fanboys is not
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 10: it's their own really into him you know and i
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 10: hate him i i hate.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 3: To make this issue with it but marvel's got black
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 3: panther coming out yeah i.
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: Mean dc needs is them trying something which is good
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: but at the same way why not why not.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 3: Give us a black green lantern.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah which worked which we have which worked amazingly well before.
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 10: John stewart would be fine There you go. We don't
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 10: need a... And I'm sure... He's so CGI. Even in
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 10: this updated trailer, he still looks so.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 3: Flat to me.
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: It looks like a bad.
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 3: It looks like a halfway decent cause player at a convention. Which,
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 3: if I saw a guy walking around with that quality
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 3: of costume, I'd be like, yeah. But not a $ 180
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 3: billion movie.
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: See, that's what's sad, is I feel like the TV
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: suit looks better.
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: Like, that one looks pretty damn good. And I'm like,
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 1: their budget on CW is way less than what you're
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: throwing into this movie.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 10: I don't understand why robots have to have so many
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 10: edges now. Like, what's wrong with just sleek robots? Like,
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 10: Transformers and stuff, everything has to.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 1: Be so sharp and edgy and... Looks so much better
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 1: on the TV show. Oh, man, yeah.
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 10: I don't care for the panels.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 3: It just looks cheap.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 10: Just kind of crisscrossing all over him.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 3: So is it the suit that makes him run fast now?
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 10: My understanding is that the only reason the suit existed
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 10: in a comic is because of friction and whatever from
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 10: moving so fast.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 1: He would burn off.
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 3: He would explode if he ran that fast.
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 10: But the kid in the movie, it looks like he
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 10: made it in his backyard. It looks like there's panels
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 10: of metal that have been wrapped around what iron or
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 10: some kind of wire all over him. That's not even.
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 9: The paint's flaking off.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: And metal, that'll heat up real fast.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 12: Yes!
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: That's not good at all. Maybe it's carbon fiber.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 10: I don't know what the material is. There's some kind
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 10: of paneling all over him and it just looks like
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 10: he just tied stuff onto him in the garage.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 3: When we watched the trailer yesterday, my wife leaned over
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 3: to me in the theater and goes, who is that guy?
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 3: Talking about Cyborg.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 9: Oh, okay.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: And I was like, that's Cyborg.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 9: And she's like, Who is that?
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: Again, I feel like that's the normal run of people.
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 1: I think geeks have known who he is forever. But, like, regular... Even...
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: I think the most functional thing is Teen Titans.
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: Like, the anime... But, again, not everybody watches kids' animated shows,
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: even though it's not really all that kid-friendly.
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 9: But, like.
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 3: But Teen Titans was.
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: Well, no, I was talking about the animated one, though.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: The one that's on Cartoon Network and the one before
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 1: that that was on.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 9: I mean, is there currently one on?
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a new one on.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they're doing a TV series.
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 3: Because people know who The Flash is because there is
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 3: a TV show and people still know who he is
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 3: even without that sort of.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 9: Aquaman's established.
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 3: People know who that is even if they don't recognize
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 3: this current version of him. Everyone knows who Wonder Woman
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 3: and Superman and Batman are. Nobody knows or cares who
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 3: Cyborg is.
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 1: I think that's the only thing that kind of broke
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 1: through was the animated show got pretty popular with kids
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: and in-betweens.
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 10: Teen Titans Go was really big with kids. That was
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 10: part of the reason why they canceled Young Justice and
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 10: some of the older animated stuff. They're like, oh, the
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 10: kids are killing it. Let's just make it silly and
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 10: push it to kids.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's part of it right there. This
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: is kind of popular with kids. We want to bring
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: in kids. It's one of our few heroes we have
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: that we can work into this scenario, but yeah, I
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: still feel like normal average people that may or may
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: not decide to go to see this movie are not
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: going to.
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 3: Know who they like. Was there a cyborg live-action movie
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 3: several years ago, or am I just confusing that with Steel?
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 10: It must be Steel.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: Because I know there was a Steel. Or you're thinking
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: of the Jean-Claude Van Damme cyborg.
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 3: Well, I know that exists too, but I thought there
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 3: was one for the character. But I know there's that
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 3: abomination for Steel.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: I think they've worked him, because didn't they work him
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: in on Smallville too? They kept trying to work in
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 1: live action versions.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 10: Smallville, I didn't get in on Smallville, but I've heard
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 10: a lot about it.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: I thought he did.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 8: I watched Smallville like religiously for a long time.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 10: I had a co-worker when I worked at the HT
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 10: to tell me about all of it.
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 1: It just went on way too long.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was fun.
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: I think in the beginning it was a great concept.
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 3: In the beginning it was awesome.
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: And they really just should have graduated it up to
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 1: a bigger version.
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 7: I agree.
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 1: It should have been Metropolis. It should have been Superman.
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 10: What got me is that after it was on like
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 10: four or five years, I'm like, how long is he
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 10: going to school?
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 1: Well, and then he graduated, but he still stayed in Smallville.
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, he's supposed to go to Metropolis. Just turn
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 1: the show into Metropolis.
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 3: And even when he did get to Metropolis, you still
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 3: don't see Superman. It's a show about Superman without Superman.
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: It was frustrating by the end. I'm like, just make
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: him fly for God's sake.
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 10: That just sounds like.
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: A seat up you've shown now.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, Lord.
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 1: We've jumped over to the Justice League. I think we're
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: ahead an episode or.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So... So Thor was awesome. Thor was awesome.
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, more trivia. Jeff Goldblum's character in the comics is blue.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 3: But they decided not to make him blue for the
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 3: movie because of Earth Girls.
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 1: Another awesome movie.
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 9: Earth Girls are easy.
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: I love that movie.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 4: Well, who doesn't?
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: Of the other 99% of people who have not seen it.
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 3: I feel like that was a good decision not to.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 3: Because I do think.
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: I also feel like there's a lot of blue characters
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 1: in Marvel.
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: Mostly Guardians. Well, it's going to be green ones.
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 10: The Kree are all green.
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I'm just like several of our main characters
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: in Guardians are blue. So it's like, again, they're kind
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 1: of getting overrun with people that are all one color anyway. Like,
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 1: just find another way to make them weird, you know?
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know. There's other alien things. They
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 1: don't all have to be like a weird color.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 8: And one small thing. A little device on Thor's neck.
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 8: Why can he be electrocuted? If he's the God of Thunder.
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 10: Why doesn't he just charge up and it fizzes it?
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 1: Or he could just be.
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 10: Like, why is this holding down?
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 9: That is a good point that I did not think of.
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 9: You've just ruined.
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 1: Two-thirds of the movie. Well, I mean, I kind of
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: thought of like, what is the, because they didn't really
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 1: go in, like it was just a normal thing like
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 1: they use on any other prisoner. I'm like, isn't he
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 1: more powerful than just about anybody? Like, why is this
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: work on him?
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 8: It's an electronic device. It's like a garage door opener.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 9: If anything, it should make him stronger.
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: It's taking out the God of Thunder.
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 8: I was waiting for him to not find a different
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 8: way to take it off, but to fucking zap it
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 8: or zap the controller or zap something.
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 1: It is an odd little minor detail that kind of
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: creates a much bigger issue.
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 8: A fester in my brain for all time.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 3: Damn it.
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 10: I can't wait for it. I want to see this
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 10: director's cut. I can't imagine how much more nonsense.
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 1: Is in there.
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 10: When Jeff Goldblum says something about his age... And just
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 10: lets it hang?
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That was so... Again, I don't know why that
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 1: was so funny to me. That was classic Goldblum. When
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 1: he started that sentence and just let it hang and
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 1: it's like.
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 8: His little face doing weird things.
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 1: Well, even the stinger feels like it's just him winging it.
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 1: Which I don't know, did the second stinger.
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 10: I didn't get to see the second one because I
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 10: can't have a revolution without a dustbin.
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 1: It has no... Yeah, it has no real.
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 10: was it another troll stinger where it just kind.
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 1: Of yeah it was just like for fun for this
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 1: just him like getting out of the ship after all
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 1: that goes down and all the people are kind of
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 1: coming around he's like hey well you can't have a
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: revolution without somebody to overthrow so really i'm kind of
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 1: you know you couldn't have this without me like.
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 3: But he'll i feel like he'll be back in guardians
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 3: because feta today his character is actually the collector's brothers.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 10: Yeah so him and benicio del toro yeah should have
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 10: so he'll because again they're the guys bringing the coins
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 10: together for thanos yeah to an extent obviously i guess
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 10: goldblum won't be as much collector definitely but i don't
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 10: know if What they're going to do with Goldblum's character.
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 3: But I would like, you know, I never am I
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 3: disappointed when that man shows up on screen.
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: I did double check. Unless IMDB is lying, it said
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: 80% of the dialogue was improvised in general. But I'm
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 1: sure almost all of that Jeff Goldblum being a goofy
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 1: Jeff Goldblum was just him. Just like, Jeff, just say something.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: Try not to say must go faster. But other than that,
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: feel free to work in anything else.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 8: I pardon you.
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: Life.
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 8: Boom.
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 10: Was that a Schindler's List nod? I thought that was
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 10: a Schindler's List nod.
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: That's an odd pull, by the way. Maybe it's just
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: my brain.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 10: I vividly remember that scene where he's tricking the Nazi
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 10: dude into not killing. He's like, it's more powerful to
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 10: forgive people. And that's when he has that moment where
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 10: he's like, I forgive you. And he forgives a couple people.
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 10: So when he did that, I was like, is this
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 10: a nod to Schindler's List?
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I want it to be or don't.
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 3: Where do I go here?
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 1: Both powerful movies.
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 10: One a little more so.
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 3: Than the other.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 1: Not enough Hulk in Schindler's List, I gotta say.
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 3: There was that good joke. I don't remember... verbatim now
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 3: but something about he was pulling you off.
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah they're really kind of like what and okay
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: is that where we're going and then they just moved
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 1: on to another.
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 3: We i laughed i laughed so hard at that and
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 3: was the only one in the in the theater laughing
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 3: at that i kind of wanted to look around and
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 3: be like really.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 8: I don't know pulling off i don't think he was
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 8: pulling up the.
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 3: Words pulling off were in there but then they like,
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 3: they didn't even let it hang.
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: Like they immediately nailed another joke on top of it.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 1: So you're like, but wait, did.
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 3: He just say, but when Thor said it the first
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 3: time I start, I giggled a little bit.
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 9: I'm like, okay, be mature.
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 3: And then Korg was like, wait, he was pulling you off.
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 3: And then that's not, I lost it.
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: I'm at the Korg level of humor.
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 10: Meanwhile, what TDs back there going PG PG.
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think what else there is to talk
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 3: about that.
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 10: Um, i feel like i can talk about it forever
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 10: because it's so fragmented and yeah well that's not like
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 10: a long over.
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 3: That was a point i was going to make it
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 3: was kind of like watching bits of a tv series
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 3: or issues of a comic because you had like 35
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 3: minutes of a complete story that moved on to another
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 3: complete story that were all part of a bigger episodic.
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah yeah exactly and i think that was a good
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 10: way to do it it felt good it felt.
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 3: You didn't get bogged down with the one story too much.
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 10: Especially after part two, because part two was super plot heavy.
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 10: Because even after watching it a couple times, I was like,
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 10: what happened? Jane had the stone in her, but what's
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 10: the big red stuff? And why are we in this
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 10: world and this world? And it was a bit heavy.
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 1: It's a little convoluted. Yeah, this was a little more
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 1: fun and yet dark and heavy if you want to
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: find it.
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 14: I don't know.
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they shot down every sad moment.
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of.
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 10: Like, seriously, every time something sad happened, there was a
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 10: joke right afterwards. Quickly.
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 3: That's why about the 30-minute mark, I was like, this
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 3: movie is good, but kind of silly. Which, I enjoy silly,
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 3: but I wasn't really sure which way they were going
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 3: to take it for a while. And I still think
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 3: overall it worked, but there were times where the silliness
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 3: was a little distracting.
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 14: Ready to Fire up Immigrant Song and get the hell
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 14: out of here.
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 1: It was like, it's not just in the trailer. When
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 1: they kicked in full on, not even instrumental version, just
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 1: the album track right in the middle of the battle.
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, all right. I mean, we all kind
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: of wanted this, but I.
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 14: Mean, it fits really well.
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 1: As much as the shine has gone off that band
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 1: as I've gotten to be not a child anymore. That
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: song still really fucking works.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 3: That is a good song.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 1: There's a handful of their songs that I'm like, nope,
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 1: you can't argue. Like, it's just a great song. Yeah.
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of the other stuff as time's gone on.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no.
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 3: But. Well, you can't.
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 9: I mean, you know.
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 3: You read into that one and it's okay.
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 9: It is about Vikings.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it is kind of. I mean, it is.
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 1: I enjoy the song.
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 9: But if you read into the lyrics too seriously, it's like, hmm.
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 3: It's not about hobbits, thankfully, unlike a lot.
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 9: Of their other stuff.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 1: I would never say about that.
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I do feel like that was, a Thor
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 3: movie was a great place for, you know.
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 1: And one of the few times they licensed it.
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: It didn't have Cameron Crowe involved. That's another thing. As
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 1: we discussed in the trailer, but I'm like, that's, yeah,
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 1: usually there's a weird Cameron Crowe tie-in that they'll let
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 1: him use their music. So this is one of the
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 1: few times, I guess, because it was Norse gods and whatnot, but.
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  Speaker 10: Soundtrack was really synthy. I did want to mention that earlier.
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  Speaker 10: Let's not make a big point of it, but I
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 10: did think it was strange that the music was trying
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  Speaker 10: so hard to feel 80s when it's Thor in space,
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  Speaker 10: and I didn't feel like a time was even relevant,
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  Speaker 10: but it was a lot of synthy music, and I
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 10: was like, this feels like they're trying to do the
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 10: Stranger Things thing with their music.
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  Speaker 9: The 80s are really big right now.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's like Thor. Between Stranger Things and It,
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  Speaker 1: it's all about the 80s.
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  Speaker 3: Because I saw a commercial for God only knows what product,
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 3: But there were a bunch of people, they had headbands
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 3: and sunglasses.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody was jamming with a keytar.
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  Speaker 10: When does 90s become nostalgic again?
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  Speaker 1: It seems like it's been the 80s for a while.
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  Speaker 9: It's kind of there already. I think we're getting.
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  Speaker 10: Another 15 years.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of there already, I think. Like, it's already
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: gotten to that point where you can be cheesy nostalgic
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 1: about it. And we're seeing it, like, I think it
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: first creeps in through the internet. So we're already seeing
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 1: all these weird little, like, Things that only 90s kids
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 1: get kind of thing.
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  Speaker 10: See, I thought Power Rangers had been part of that.
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  Speaker 10: That's the 90s Transformers-ish kind of thing. But it didn't
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  Speaker 10: really happen.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're there. I think it just hasn't hit
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  Speaker 1: that level yet. Yeah, it hasn't hit its apex. But
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 1: it's almost there. It's pretty damn close.
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  Speaker 9: So when does now become current?
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  Speaker 3: 30, 40 years. Because I don't really like now.
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  Speaker 1: But later... I don't want to relive the 80s. Later
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 1: you'll be looking back and you'll be like.
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  Speaker 3: I remember the 70s. Best thing about the 80s was
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 3: Weird Al, and that's because he was making fun of
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 3: the 80s while they were happening.
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 1: Well, he hasn't gone anywhere. Otherwise, that about does it.
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  Speaker 1: We will return in another super series in the very
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 1: near future, I'm guessing, but If not, we got Black Panther. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 1: we will return next time. Same Geek Feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 3: Bye, everybody.
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  Speaker 7: The hammer of the gods We'll drive our ships to
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  Speaker 7: new lands To fight the horde Singing and crying For
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  Speaker 7: Hala I.
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  Speaker 2: Am coming.
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  Speaker 7: On me sweet Threshing o'er All we go will be
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  Speaker 7: the western shore We come from a land of the
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 7: ice and snow From the midnight sun where the hot
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 7: springs blow How soft you feel so green Can whisper tales.
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  Speaker 12: Of gold.
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  Speaker 7: Of how we calmed the dyes of war We are
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  Speaker 7: your overlords Only sweet, fresh and more Only gold will
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  Speaker 7: be the western shore So now you better start And
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 7: rebuild all your ruins Decent your skin win the day
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  Speaker 7: despite of all your losing.
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  Speaker 10: If the audience comes together. And these days, the audience
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 10: don't come together. I've had times where audiences really came
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 10: together and made the movie fun.
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 10: But that rarely happens now.
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  Speaker 8: Most times they're ruining it for me now.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 8: I swear to God, the bad behavior in the theater
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 8: has been on the rise. And I swear to God,
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 8: I always get the person.
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  Speaker 4: Right behind me.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know how it happens. It's every single time now.
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  Speaker 4: It's like.
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  Speaker 8: Just like there's this one guy at Baxter that finds me,
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 8: I swear to God. It's the same guy. He always
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 8: comes home with this big bucket of popcorn and he's
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 8: got this big beard and this shaggy hair and he
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 8: sits right behind me. And the way he breathes and
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 8: he makes these sounds through the whole movie. He makes
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 8: these god awful demon sounds the whole movie. He's chewing
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 8: with his mouth open. He's snorting. He's grunting. And I'm
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 8: just like, I mean, I move, but.
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 1: You move closer to him. But I pick my spots
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  Speaker 1: very carefully.
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