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I have some good news. Well, it's interesting news.
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OK, go on. I spoke to my professor.
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OK. Oh, about the the yeah.
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I said like whatever you did with your electrocute didn't
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work. Didn't work right.
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Didn't. Work.
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Yeah. Oh, OK.
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So now I get to go see my surgeon again.
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Oh, OK, so he's allowed it. Yep, he's allowed it.
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Now I've got to convince the surgeon.
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OK. So we'll see what happens, but
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I'll be allowed to go back to another ketamine treatment,
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which does work for a little bit, but not long periods.
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So I might go a ketamine treatment, go on holiday for a
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bit and then get my leg cut off. For any new listeners or
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watchers, what Luke is discussing is the fact that he
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wants his leg removed. Yes, because it annoys him.
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It annoys me and my sister wants me to get cremated so she can
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keep the ashes. OK, that's better than not
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cremated so she can keep the leg here.
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Well done to Multiple Nerdgasm with your hosts Matt, Luke, and
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Dan. Multiple Nerdgasm, Your guide to
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all things nerdy. Although she prefer it, yeah,
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she would prefer it without it being cremated.
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It's just that's going to be harder to do.
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Right. Could you do that thing where
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you can get the ashes crushed into a diamond and then she can
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make a piece of fashionable jewelry out of it?
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I think she just wants the ashes.
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All right. I prefer, all right.
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I just prefer them to be ashes. I'm sorry.
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Yeah, yeah, I'd burn it anyway. So.
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Like I can't. Burn a diamond.
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You'd get crushed into a like a gem or something and that'd be a
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bit nicer, not just burn it and then let's see, I'm trying to
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are they just going to? They're just going to take it I.
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Assume is there any tattoos on that leg?
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Yes, unfortunately. You're going to lose some
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tattoos. That's rather be.
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That's going to turn into a canvas you like stretch the skin
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on the under I. Don't think they really support
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that practice any you. Should get, you should just just
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get some really, really out there tattoos on it between now
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and then just to do it knowing that they'll be gone in a year.
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You know what I mean? Like, why does it say all this
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stuff about the Jews? Well.
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Just or just in text, right Whereabouts.
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They'll do it just right. Don't you fucking cut my leg
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off. Yeah, that's right.
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Just just do the little line with the half scissors.
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Where they go? Cut here, but we'll wait and
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see. It's months away, but.
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At your shorts line, just get a tattoo of your balls.
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Oh yeah. Fucking hell.
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That's a good one. If you do that, there's a good
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chance your sister won't want it anymore.
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No, she'll still want it. She doesn't care.
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She just wants the ashes of my burnt leg.
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Oh yeah. It's not going to see it.
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Yeah, yeah, she'll know. So I've got to get Reggie Rabbit
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tattooed again, but I'm not going to waste money getting
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tattoos that are going to be cut off anymore.
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You're not tempted to just get a swastika just just for the for
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the experience of going into a tattoo fala and them not knowing
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you're gonna lose the leg and just go on.
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It's like a Nazi paraphernalia all down the right side.
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Actually, a lot of the tattoos that I know, if you were to walk
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in and after that they would go no.
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A lot of them, not all of them. Yeah, well, all the ones I've
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spoken to because I'll tell me every night.
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I can do all about it. He's not a guy.
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Getting one. The guy who who would do it, I
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don't talk to him. Very often though but though
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when I go to get one. I don't have to.
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I just give him a little nod and he.
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Knows sometimes people will call up and go and I get one and it's
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yeah, no one's going to do that. They actually did have one time
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we show a bit sad that they couldn't do a tattoo on someone.
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It was a kid who was about 14 or something and he's like, can I
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get a tattoo? I need something covered up.
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And they're going, we can't even get your parents.
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Well, not even parents consent that agents like no, he's like,
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I've got my parents put a SWAT sticker on me and I want that
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gone. And they're so fucking.
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That's one of the times where they probably were seriously
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considering maybe. Regular rules, yeah.
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Yeah, because it's not something here he.
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Parents tattooed a swastika. I don't even want to know the.
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Yeah. But the problem is though, I'd
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be thinking just because I'm like this, I'd be thinking this
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is probably going to be a problem of a bigger sort in
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future and I probably don't want to be involved.
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Yes. Stay.
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Out of that but you feel gonna feel because.
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Somehow they'd spin it so that you were the baddie, you know,
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Yes, tattooing a kid rather than the one who put the swastika.
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Yeah, that family is going to be in court and I'm going to get
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dragged into it if I. Do this that.
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Is my name will be associated with them forever?
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I'd be worried about them not dragging you to court, but
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dragging you somewhere else. I'll say that.
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Yeah, yeah. It's.
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A long way to drag someone it. Is.
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From Australia anyway. Not if you live in Poland.
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I didn't think that part through.
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Let's get away from that. That's.
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What Hitler said. Oh God, we should.
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We should really have done our homework on this.
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Now that I see it all, yeah. Yeah.
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I I admit that when you stack it all up like this, it looks.
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Bad. Yeah, on paper this looks bad,
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doesn't it? Yeah.
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Can we talk about some Star Wars news?
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Yeah, because I really want to know about this.
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Has Ryan Johnson finally admitted that he's not doing his
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trilogy? Indirectly, indirectly.
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So he's he was asked about it this week and and so, OK, what's
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the, what was he asked exactly? He was asked OK an interview
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with the independent. He was asked why the movies
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haven't been made yet His his trilogy right.
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So if you don't know, Ryan Johnson made The Last Jedi it.
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Was quite 10 years. Yeah, mixed.
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Yeah, feedback on that? Mixed.
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Was it mixed opinions? Mixed mixture of bad feedback.
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Yeah, some people really liked it.
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Some people really hated it. Kathy Kennedy really liked it.
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I think people hated it. We hated it.
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We hated it. But they said at the time, I
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think before it came out, they said he was, oh, we're going to
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get him to do a trilogy. It's so good.
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And then it came out and everyone, yeah, there was a lot
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of discussion about about it. And well, there was a lot of
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from Disney and then just Ryan bringing it up every now.
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And he kept saying, yeah, I'm still doing it, I'm still doing
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it. So they've asked him why haven't
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they been made yet and are they still happening?
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And he said this is a quote. What happened?
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Knives Out? I mean, I kind of went down a
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murder mystery rabbit hole. I'm focused on making other
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stuff. But I mean, I wouldn't rule it
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out happening down the line. If I get back in the Star Wars
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universe someday, I'd be the happiest person.
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So he decided instead of doing a multi, it's.
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Not happening. $1,000,000 movie, multi billion dollar trilogy
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that's going to go to movies he decided to do with Netflix
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movies. I mean, they're better than is.
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Yeah, I, I, I don't my knives out and that's what we should
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stick with, Yeah. To.
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I've got some. I'll stick to that actually.
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The tone of I mean this is very different.
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And even if they do ask me back, I might not even say yes.
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I'll be very excited, I'll be very honoured if that happens,
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like, OK, so it's not happening. So yeah, to me, that's an
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official. Yeah, it's definitely because
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they're not going to ask him back.
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There's no not a chance in hell. But he had.
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That documentary, the director in Star Wars and all this, they
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had pegged him as just the one who was going to carry it
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forward. And just Butch.
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James. Gunn meant I remember the.
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Gun of Star Wars. Yeah, I remember sitting in the
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theatre because I, and I'll say to this day, I loved The Force
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Awakens. I think the Force.
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Awakens, it was back to Star Wars.
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Excellent. It is everything I loved about
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Star Wars. Is it a soft reboot?
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Yes. Does it make raise some
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questions? Yes.
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But we were going to have two more movies to answer those
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questions, right? And then I remember sitting in
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the theatre for fucking. What's this called the last?
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Jedi. Jedi.
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Yeah, And thinking this, this isn't good.
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This is really, really ungood. It's.
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Not the same as the other movie. Yeah.
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Like it's just it's. Too different.
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Why this? With Luke Skywalker, they sort
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of turned him from being like, I understand, like we need to get
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away from. I thought they were going to
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make him more of like a their problem is not like Dark, where
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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, get away from this.
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There's no pure and no, he cried.
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And it wasn't burnt. It wasn't what they thought we
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hated about it because everyone goes, oh, you hate that you had
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a female general? No.
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Fucking annoys me but there's a female general?
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Fucking no. They say that.
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Yeah, you know what? There was an Asian woman.
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That's what you hated, wasn't it?
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Again, no. Nobody cares about that.
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No. Poorly written characters?
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So what? I mean, it's not that nobody
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cares about that that's the problem.
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Oh yeah, Is that there were idiots who cared about it.
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Sure. But yeah, but there's, there's
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people that there's people that aren't watching Doctor Who now
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because he's black. Like, you know what I mean?
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It's like, no, I'm not watching it because it's not very good
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anymore. Do you think some of them have
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come back from when they went to a woman?
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They dropped off, but now they're it's back to a man.
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Maybe they've come back. Yeah, maybe drop off because
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he's black. He's also.
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Gay. Yeah.
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But does it make it better or worse?
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Yeah. Doesn't.
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Make it. I don't know if the doctor is
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gay or whether just the actor is gay, but.
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I know I saw a clip of it and it looked fun and I went I'm still
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not going to watch it. Yeah, that's pretty much how I
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feel about Doctor Who at this point, too.
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Speaking of Ryan Johnson, I watched a Ryan Johnson thing
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this week because. Yeah, because I don't mind
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Knives Out and the other one Knives Out and.
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Glass Onion. Glass Onion, I thought they were
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OK and if they do another one, which I assume they are, I'll,
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I'll watch that too. On Netflix for free, right.
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I'm not going to the cinema to watch it, but you know.
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That's the trilogy. Next trilogy he should make.
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Daniel Craig, Yeah. So I was, yeah, Daniel Craig's
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excellent. And they have fucking tons of
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stars, you know, like it's just, it's a who's who they're.
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Good, yeah. So they're fine.
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So he's also doing a murder mystery series called Poker
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Face. Oh, that show has been amazing
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about it. So I decided to watch it.
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You've seen it too. So I put on Tasha.
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Olivio. You know, whatever her name is.
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Yeah, I put on one episode, and right at the start there was
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this plot hole. And I was like, is no one going
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to address this plot hole? And then it occurred to me, I'm
10:51
like, if this plot hole ends up being the twist of this episode
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and the answer to the mystery, I'm not watching any more after
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this. And sure enough, by the end of
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the episode, they're like, wait a minute.
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I'm like, oh come on, come on. So I'm out.
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I'm not 100%. Out continue watching it's it's
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it's just standalone episodes. It's just a.
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Would you say you're subverted but not in a good way?
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Yeah, that's right. Disappointing way.
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I think what he did was set that up to go in a certain direction,
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a good direction, and then subverted that to go in a shit
11:26
direction instead. Luke, if you are telling me
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right now, if you look me in the eye and tell me that I should
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keep watching it, I will. You should keep watching it.
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I know season 3 should come out and I'm about to get standing in
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so I can start watching it. Right, OK.
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I I enjoyed it, it's just it's a nice easy.
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Watch it's It was definitely an easy watch, except that I was
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going Why isn't anyone talking about the thing?
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The audience shouldn't notice things the characters haven't
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noticed, right? If I'm there noticing, the
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detectives there should notice it.
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It gets better, I think. OK, And it's just insane.
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You've murder mystery every week.
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Go with it. That I like.
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I'm into that. I'm into that format for sure,
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which is what I was hoping for. OK.
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So it's one of those. One of those she notices things
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that other people don't, she. Oh, OK.
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The plot mat is the reason it's called Poker Face is because she
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can tell when someone's lying like so.
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Yeah, OK. That's that's the conceit,
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right? Is that a?
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Superpower. Or just she Just no, she just
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can. She's just really good.
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She works. That's really good.
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That's why she used to count cards.
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And yeah. Like someone will just say
12:31
something and it'll be hold on what?
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And then that would lead her down, and that's all it is.
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It was an interesting premise. I'm not sure she's got the
12:40
charisma to lead a whole show. We'll see.
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We'll see. I enjoy her.
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I watched something. I don't get her though.
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Oh. You'll never get her, Luke.
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No, no, not like that. She's very.
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Famous at this point. I don't know, she's just very
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different from the characters to sometimes plays and I can't
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place what she how she would really be she actually.
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Is. Person, Yeah.
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It's the girl who tells everyone that that guy has a big Dick in
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the 1st. You will know her from one of
13:16
your favorite movies 1. Of my favorite.
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In the first American Pie movie, but I hope just to finish that.
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What is she in? Something else first.
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That's all I really know. I don't need old cast.
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And crew. I just need her.
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What am I doing? I don't know how to use the
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Internet. She's also on that show where
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she keeps coming back from the dead.
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Right, that was. OK, yeah, and that's her all.
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Right, all right. She was on the second season
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that I couldn't get into it because it got to be different,
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OK. Yeah, I think I only I dropped
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off for the first season 2. The Simpsons.
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Oh no, I thought was in one of your I forget the show you like.
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Not hackers, the other one you watch.
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Oh she is in Glass Onion. I didn't know that.
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Hackers. The other one that makes.
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Sense the other. One you watch all the time, that
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you watch once a year, The one that it wouldn't make today can.
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You. Please you know what I want to.
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Do the 1 is. Going to be like, oh you mean
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Love Thy neighbor, The old British comedy that.
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Was used to watch the racist guy.
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No, I can't remember. It might, might not be that one.
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What do I watch every year? It was when they're running
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around, they're trying to take pictures.
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To do not take pictures. Oh no, that's not what I was
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going to say. They're trying to trick some guy
14:37
into being gay to take pictures of him to.
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I can't remember, Maybe I've made this up, maybe trick
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someone? Into being gay.
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They're trying to get someone really drunk so they could take
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pictures of him to put it in a different.
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Do you mean fan Wilder? Maybe you've made this up.
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I don't know. No, no, no.
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I'm. Sure, that's a movie.
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No, if that can't remember it from that then stop that.
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I I do, I do love those. I mean, I don't love.
15:05
Them and it may not be heard I'm thinking of.
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Problematic movies from the 80s like Revenge of the Nerds where?
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Oh, yeah, like pure rape someone.
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But I I'd love to remake them ex and and change nothing except
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for the dialogue and have them admit that it's rape.
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Do you know what I mean? Like, imagine they were like,
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oh, how are we going to see that girl naked?
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We could rape her, you know, have you, have you tried rape?
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Because that's essentially what they're doing.
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Like, might be you could dress up like a boyfriend.
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And if it was dark, she wouldn't know it was you.
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It's like, yeah. That's just rape it late I mean.
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One of them is like, isn't that legal?
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They're like, don't worry about. That.
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Like Arthur, she. Just wanted to say 2025.
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She goes, she goes, that was amazing, Then finds out it's
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like him and he just goes, well, maybe have you found someone who
15:50
actually respects you? And no, that's not what that is.
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Yeah. What's that one that you told me
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to watch, Luke? That is an excellent movie with
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Bill Murray Porky. Is that the?
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The no, no, the Porky's He's a cave counsellor.
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Meatballs, meatballs, meatballs. That it's such a.
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Great movie, except for the scene where he viciously raped
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somebody. She's actually.
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Just comedy for comedy. For comedy, I.
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Guess, I guess. She's actually screaming.
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Yeah. Biting him over the mouth.
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Yeah, and just fucks her comedy. Very different time.
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Next thing he mentors this little boy in like a really
16:34
touching way. So out of place the whole.
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Scene where that that human hurt that doesn't need to be in the
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movie. At all?
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No. Adds no value?
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No. No.
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Look, I watched something that people, a lot of people told me
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to watch this because I am. Currently us including us I'm.
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Currently in jury duty here in the state of Rhode Island.
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So everybody told me to watch the show.
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Well, the first they asked me, have you seen that show?
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Jury duty? And I was like, oh, I know what?
17:08
It is not the movie Jury Duty starring.
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Starring Paul. Sure, sure.
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When I said, I said to Jenna, we need to watch jury duty.
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And she was like, all right. And I said.
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I said, oh, not the Paulie Shore movie because I knew we're we're
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Pauly Shore fans in this house. Yeah, yeah.
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I'll watch Encino man any day. Encino man's good biodome is.
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Biodome also and there's a some rape in that as well.
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Yeah, what's the most rape in Biodome?
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I don't remember it. I'm not surprised though.
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No, I don't remember though. Yeah.
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But I watched I so I watched I've watched 2 episodes so far
17:44
of that the jury duty show. So any listeners who don't know
17:47
the premise of this show, it's a.
17:49
It's. Filmed as if it's a documentary
17:52
about jury duty, except they tell you at the beginning, but
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the Joe. Schmoe show from many years ago.
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I don't. Know I don't know that the Joe.
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Schmoe Show was one of the first ones to have the premise where
18:03
like everyone's, you know, except for okay, this guy.
18:08
So it's. It's, it's filmed as if it's a
18:10
documentary. This guy, this, this one guy,
18:11
Ronald, who thinks it's a documentary about jury duty.
18:14
But in reality, this whole thing is all actors except him.
18:17
He's the only person who doesn't isn't an actor in this, but they
18:22
just play out this insane courtroom situation that he's
18:28
thinks he's in the jury and it's fucking hilarious.
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Have you watched it all yet? Man, I've only watched 2.
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Episodes, I mean, and I've got to say I don't how did James
18:38
master not get an Academy Award for this?
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He's if this. Really.
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Is filmed as I've described, where you get one take one shot,
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and if it is, this guy thinks it's real.
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The last. Episode Matt So they actually
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reveal in the second to last episode, and then the last
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episode is a deconstruction of how they did it all really.
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And the actors? Are all like every single wacky
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thing we did, we said to each other.
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Today is the day he's going to guess it because he this is way
19:08
too over the top. Even some of the characters.
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That were meant to be sort of weird.
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And he was meant to be, like, outcast.
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He was just such a nice guy. He became friends with them.
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Yeah. They're like you.
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Yeah, that's right. There's that.
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That sequence. So this is just a random guy.
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The funniest stuff is. Yet to come they intentionally.
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Leave him, I think to the side so that he's not, he doesn't
19:28
interact with him that much. The only conversation they have
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is at one point the guy walks past him and goes, oh, I'm just
19:33
going to go to the bathroom and rub one out.
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And then the guy and then he, he goes to him.
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Do it now while you've got time. And then like that's the only
19:40
conversation they have. But then later, like shortly
19:43
after that, he fucking pulls a filing.
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Cabinet over onto. Himself in this.
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Ridiculous accident. I forgot that's how what
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happened. And then and.
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Then. They, there's this fucking
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sequence where all the jurors are there being interviewed with
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this documentary. And then we'll start telling
19:58
these fucking stories about he was, he got back from from
20:03
Vietnam and went off to Nepal to do work with children.
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And they've all got stories. About what amazing guys this guy
20:09
Ronald's like. And then they all.
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Like, Oh yeah, he made me this origami crane and they all got
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one. Except Ronald.
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So fucking funny. I think the funniest.
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Thing it's going to come up and I'm not going to ruin it for
20:25
you, but there is a sex scene that I think is the funniest
20:29
thing in the world. It's not.
20:30
Only the funniest thing in this show.
20:32
It might be the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life, yes.
20:35
OK. I got to keep watching.
20:37
It's unbelievable to me. I don't know how they keep a
20:39
straight face, even just like simple things.
20:41
This is a sequence where I I couldn't know, is this planned?
20:45
Maybe, Maybe they'll explain this.
20:47
The bailiff comes to the hotel room and the weird guy next door
20:52
has opened the doors between the rooms.
20:54
He's all we got. We got adjoining rooms.
20:56
We could leave the doors open or whatever.
20:58
And he's being weird. And the bailiff comes in and she
21:00
goes, all good, you're both here.
21:01
And she starts talking. The other guy walks back into
21:03
his room and then comes around outside.
21:06
He's standing behind her and she's yelling.
21:09
At the roots room and I'm like how?
21:13
How is nobody? Laughing at this, he's I think
21:15
I. Think it's a very hard thing to
21:17
do because silly. You have to get.
21:18
Actors that aren't known, yeah, that.
21:21
To do that has. To be a gamble, it's like I'm
21:24
more. Often amazed at, you know,
21:26
people like Sasha Baron Cohen, whether you like him or not, to
21:29
be able to do that and keep a straight face amazes me.
21:32
I couldn't do. It you guys know that I'll
21:34
fucking laugh. Yeah, every take, but I thought,
21:37
I think. About I think about we've we've
21:38
made films and stuff before and then you can see it or you watch
21:41
the bloopers on Always sunny or and like the Ricky Chavez, this
21:45
atrocious yes, he'd never. Be imagine him trying to.
21:47
Do this like. It's very hard, yeah.
21:51
Like, not laugh. Yeah, if anyone.
21:53
Could I'll make it work? And you?
21:55
Just like too well known. Just that bit where?
21:57
He. Sits there when he first comes
21:59
in and presumably the guy wasn't noticing that it's James Marston
22:03
at first, right? So he's then thinking, I've got
22:05
to get this guy's attention and he goes, the guy looks over and
22:08
fucking do with socks that say like new bounce or something,
22:10
and James Marston goes, I thought that guy's socks.
22:13
I said Sonic and I'm in that Sonic movie.
22:18
Fuck off mate. Yeah, no, but then his.
22:22
Response is like, oh, that wasn't very, very good and then.
22:27
And he's like, his face. He's like, yeah.
22:30
Yeah, he. Goes.
22:31
My favorite? Reaction was like, he's like,
22:33
oh, yeah, I know, yeah, I recognize you.
22:34
You're in that. And he goes, yeah, yeah, you
22:36
know, X-Men, Westworld. And he goes, oh, you're in
22:38
Westworld. And he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
22:40
yeah, yeah. Funny, yeah.
22:46
Yeah. I have.
22:47
Mad. Respect for James Martin I
22:49
didn't have before. Yeah.
22:51
And. I actually liked him already but
22:54
that made me like him heaps more.
22:55
He's great. Like I said, he.
22:57
Says he acts as I'm like, Oh my God, how are you doing this?
22:59
You know, please. Keep watching, he's back.
23:02
He's back in fucking Doctor Doom, right?
23:05
He's masters. Oh, he is probably.
23:07
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he's Cyclops back.
23:10
Yeah, that'd be good. Fucking yeah, but to me it's.
23:14
Just. Lois Lane's.
23:17
Kids, Dad, sorry. I'm sorry, cyclops.
23:20
I'm not a fan of cyclops though. But you're not meant.
23:23
To be because he's the. Straight.
23:25
He's the straight laced one. Yeah, yeah.
23:27
He's not fun. He wants to play by the rules.
23:30
He'd be fighting with Iron Man and stuff in Civil War.
23:34
He's a loose cannon. Literally.
23:38
Yeah, he he was. Interested in everybody.
23:42
Everybody in. The fucking universe.
23:44
Yeah, everyone who told you. That now before you go to
23:46
you've. Got to watch this show so
23:48
everyone. So when this show came out, I
23:50
fucking I benched this in a weekend try.
23:52
I couldn't, I couldn't stop so good and I hate prank shows and
23:57
I hate same like. Jim, we put this on.
24:00
Jenna was like, you're not going to like this.
24:01
And I was like, let's wait and see.
24:03
Here's the thing. Was he was not mean for the.
24:05
Joke that's. Right, it's not me they've.
24:07
They've done it right. They've done it the right way
24:10
around. Yeah, it's stuff everyone.
24:12
Else is. Stupid.
24:13
Yes, He's the straight man. He's just reacting.
24:15
To things because I hate those. Ones where they go out and do
24:18
that stuff and annoy people and that's not fun, but this is the
24:22
other one to that. There's one on the Internet and
24:24
I can't remember what it is that's the same and he always
24:27
just makes himself look stupid to catch other people's
24:29
reactions. Like he goes into libraries and
24:32
watches loud porn and has his headphones on but not plugged
24:36
in. Do you know what I mean?
24:37
And so everyone's looking over at him.
24:39
I don't that would. Annoy me, yeah.
24:40
That would annoy me, but he's he's.
24:42
Looks silly but anyway. But anyway, when this was over,
24:45
everyone said this was so good, but you're never going to be
24:49
able to do it again because people know the the gimmick
24:52
thing now and they've. Said.
24:54
Well, we've already filmed another one, so season 2 just
24:58
has to be edited because I wondered.
25:00
If they had to do a thing where you'd have like 10 of this going
25:03
on at the same time just to try and get one that worked, because
25:06
I know they've done things like that before too, like in the, in
25:09
the. The final episode when they're
25:10
deconstructing, it's basically all of them going.
25:13
We knew it'd be pretty good, but we had no idea it would be this
25:17
good. Yeah.
25:18
Like, I think that was just funny even.
25:19
Though they, as they're saying, they've done another one, I
25:22
think the next one may work, but they're not going to be able to
25:24
do another one for years because yeah, I have a.
25:28
Feeling what was that? And it's totally different.
25:30
But what was that mockumentary about The Who drew all the Dicks
25:34
it's at on the cars at school? Because that I know what you.
25:38
Mean I don't think I. Ever watched it?
25:40
But I know what you mean. It was.
25:42
So funny because it took itself so seriously.
25:47
As as a as. A Netflix crime doco series,
25:51
except it was who drew the Dicks.
25:53
But then they did, they did a sequel, and it was somebody
25:57
poisoned in the entire school and everyone got diarrhea.
25:59
And it's like, that's way less funny.
26:01
And if you don't know why that's less funny, then that's why this
26:04
is not as funny. Yeah.
26:06
But now I think if they do another one after they do the
26:10
second one, so people start to know what's happening and people
26:14
cotton onto it. So you're going to leave time
26:16
between these for people to forget about because like you
26:18
guys don't remember the Joe Schmo show, which was probably
26:21
the first one to do that and there was a sequel to that as
26:23
well. And right, Right.
26:25
But it's been like 10-15 years between that.
26:28
So I'm often. Amazed Sasha Baron Cohen can
26:30
still do things. I think he has trouble now.
26:32
There was a period there where I was just like, how do people?
26:35
If he walked into a room, I'd be like, that's Sasha Baron Cohen.
26:40
I think he. Was trying to.
26:40
Prank if you look at. Especially if things got weird.
26:43
I'd be like, I know who you are. Yeah, yeah, it's.
26:46
Really stuff he's been. Doing the PB's been going to
26:48
antagonize. Yeah, I know they're not his
26:50
audience. Yeah, I think that's.
26:52
Yeah, that's the thing too. I.
26:53
Know I'm not so I don't like prank stuff either, but I never
26:56
disliked Sacha Baron Cohen's stuff because I think the people
27:00
he's. He's.
27:02
Encouraging getting to admit. People that they're racist and
27:05
stuff. Yeah, that's the thing.
27:07
I guess I'm OK with people fighting themselves as racist.
27:10
I didn't mind. Ali G and stuff.
27:13
But then when he went out and did his and just and I was.
27:17
I don't know, I just found boy pretty funny because he, like I
27:20
said, he's this bumbling racist idiot and he just gets other
27:23
people to admit that they're racist too.
27:26
Like, yeah, basically that was the premise.
27:29
Yeah, actually I'll be. I haven't.
27:31
Actually seen them, but I just know I won't like that.
27:32
Oh, no, no, no. They're.
27:34
Good, but you should you should watch the Borat movie or even
27:37
that. What was that character?
27:38
The there was one where he's he's a gay Swede, Bruno, and
27:45
right, yeah, he's so he's on the beat.
27:46
But this is again, it's before the movie.
27:47
He's on the beach and there's this these American fuck wits,
27:51
right? And he's going with you on a
27:53
talk to the camera and they're like, that's Borat, but he's
27:56
doing for the camera and they're like fucking showing their
27:59
muscles and stuff. He's like, yes, my my audience
28:01
would love this. And what about your backsides?
28:04
And then they like fucking, they just going nuts showing off
28:08
their bodies and he's like, OK, now say hello gay TV Sweden and
28:12
they're like. Yeah.
28:17
But see if that like they must know only guys like those
28:20
muscles, yeah. Talk about that.
28:24
Yeah, well, actually. There's some there's some news,
28:27
right? So Luke, I don't know if you
28:29
know about the Perth Bears. Do you know about the Perth
28:32
Bears? Is that the?
28:33
New NRL team that's going to be coming in in a few years.
28:36
It's both. The new.
28:37
NRL team fortunately by accident.
28:39
It's both the. New NRL team and also a gay club
28:42
in Perth that when they announced that there was going
28:46
to be a, that's already existed, it was always there called Perth
28:49
Bears, right? And then Perth announced that
28:52
they were going to have a footy team called Bears.
28:54
Record attendance at this gay club.
28:58
Of footy fans. Who didn't know it was a gay
29:01
club? That's really I.
29:04
Find that amusing. Like I've been to gay clubs.
29:07
I find them in fun, yeah. Yes, and actually.
29:10
Football fans probably would not find them.
29:12
Yeah, fun. And I remember Matt.
29:14
You, me and Gordo went to a not a gay club, but a gay bar one
29:19
night. And it took us a long time
29:21
before we realized we were in a gay bar.
29:23
Do you know what I mean? Like we would.
29:25
Yeah. I know hardly any chicks here,
29:28
which is nice. We could just talk to blokes,
29:30
you know. Yeah.
29:31
Yeah. No pressure.
29:32
And then I do not try to impress.
29:33
Anybody. Yeah.
29:36
I have picked up at gay bars before which is OK.
29:40
Picked up women or. Women.
29:42
Yes, I know somebody who? I won't say who it is because I
29:45
don't you, but when they they accidentally went to a gay bar
29:49
once with some friends and made a met somebody didn't had no
29:54
fucking idea the con like the context.
29:56
They'd accidentally walked into having a great old time with
29:59
this person for like a couple of hours or whatever, and then when
30:02
the person tried to kiss them, realized, you know, like it was.
30:07
Like in Jaws when the when? The camera does that thing.
30:11
Went back. Through the.
30:12
Night in the head. And then they're like.
30:15
I'm on a date, yeah. And then I.
30:22
I mean to. The.
30:23
Credits just said oh sorry. There's been a huge
30:26
misunderstanding, no? Offense, I wish I was young
30:28
again. I could just make out with dudes
30:31
and have it not matter. Make out with dudes.
30:33
Left and right now it's just. Yeah.
30:37
Yeah. I know something that happened
30:38
to as well back home, back in the old neighborhood, not at a
30:42
club but at a party and same thing.
30:46
It's like when you replay it back because the guys like it
30:49
seems so. Obvious.
30:50
Yeah, they're. Really getting along and but
30:51
then the guy and again, I won't say who it is, but my friend,
30:55
you you guys know him, but was was thinking like, fuck, man,
30:58
this guy's I'm really clicking with this guy.
31:00
Yeah, I mean, and then just what he was thinking about.
31:02
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then, maybe then the time to
31:05
consider. Then the guy.
31:06
Said the guy said to him is something happening here and and
31:11
he said there's definitely something.
31:16
So I think it's because I knew what's happening and then if I
31:19
did click, I go like, sorry, not interested.
31:21
But I think a lot of times when women go there, that's all
31:25
because they're not hitting on them.
31:28
Which is where? I.
31:30
Have a conversation. I feel bad for the.
31:31
Other people involved in these stories though, because it's
31:34
like. Yeah.
31:35
For for us it's funny and hilarious, but for them it's
31:38
probably a fucking horrible, embarrassing experience.
31:40
I already can just. Go with it.
31:42
I would be embarrassed. If that happens, even with a
31:45
woman that these are accused like you like it would.
31:48
Just. I don't know.
31:50
That's not what you say that, but I'm not.
31:51
Sure. Would there ever be a situation
31:53
where you were, like, out, just you met up with a woman and, you
31:56
know, you say I'm really feeling there's something between us
31:58
here. Is there feeling between US?
31:59
And she was like, yeah, yeah. And that would be misunderstood
32:02
like. Would that happen?
32:05
Yeah. Exactly mate.
32:06
I get embarrassed when a waitress says enjoy your meal
32:08
and I say yeah you too, you like.
32:13
But I just mean that. I can never come.
32:14
Back to this restaurant, maybe it's different.
32:16
These days, but like, especially when we were young, the the, the
32:20
you have to do a bit of mental legwork before you would even
32:24
consider like, well, this is me and another guy.
32:27
Like, yeah, it's not. Why would it's not?
32:29
Yeah, for that person. It's like on the table already,
32:32
but for for for you. So you haven't even considered
32:35
that that could be what this is, because for example.
32:38
Matt, I remember the first time you and I worked out that we
32:40
both loved Monkey Island, right? Sure.
32:42
And we were like, I remember at one point somebody said like, it
32:46
was Gordon who I knew and you knew, but I didn't know you that
32:50
well yet. And he had that tiny little
32:52
ponytail for a while. Oh yeah.
32:54
And, and I remember I said he looks like guy burst 3 point and
32:58
you're like, oh, fucking do you like Monkey Island?
33:00
And then it was like, oh, fucking that's, that's it,
33:02
that's it. New best friend.
33:03
That's it. And we started making a.
33:05
Fucking yeah, that's. It and then I was like, is
33:06
something happening here? Yeah.
33:11
But you just don't. But one.
33:13
Of them. Here's the thing, in all of
33:14
these instances, one person was gay, right?
33:17
So one person did know they were hitting on someone.
33:20
So it's like when you were talking to a woman and she's
33:22
saying whatever she's saying and you're like, I fucking agree
33:26
with that. I fucking.
33:27
Agree with that. I agree with all this.
33:29
I also like that. Sure, yeah.
33:34
You know, yeah, I want to have. I want to.
33:36
Have tons of kids too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:38
Yeah, I just want to have 10 feminists.
33:40
That's what I want as kids. Yeah, actually you would.
33:43
These people probably had better conversations with the gay
33:46
people, but that's what I. Mean, yeah, I agree.
33:49
I agree. Nothing funny about Meatballs
33:51
the movie. Nothing funny about it.
33:53
Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
33:56
But yeah. Yeah, I think people may.
33:58
Drop the gun when they've just heard bears?
34:01
Yes, that's very funny. Let's.
34:03
Head in. I love it though it.
34:05
Just made. They were so excited to finally
34:07
get a team. It's the Bears.
34:09
I'm Googling it. There's already a club.
34:11
Club. Fuck yeah, let's go.
34:12
We're going tonight. And all the boys and all the
34:15
boys, they haven't had a rugby. League team in like 20 years or
34:18
something, or maybe even longer I mean.
34:21
No, I almost went to. Ken's Karate Club, if you
34:23
recall. So yes.
34:25
Because I was looking. For a karate place near my work.
34:27
Do you recall what that is, Dan? I don't, but I I recognize the
34:32
story. You're just lucky it was.
34:34
Closed. Yeah, yeah.
34:36
I had been for quite a while. I think it was more of an
34:38
historic icon. So I was working in Alexandria
34:43
and I wanted to go to, I just want to do karate.
34:46
I got, you know, as you do, you get, yeah, when you're a guy.
34:49
I do karate now. Did I tell you guys I've been to
34:51
three classes? Yeah, at some point I thought.
34:54
I would someone who might do karate.
34:56
I'm not, but I thought maybe I would be, so I'm looking at it
34:59
if that's still. Open I just put.
35:03
It might have been a real. Karate class.
35:04
It might have been a lot of. Things, yeah, pulled up Google
35:09
Maps, I think at the time put in karate club or karate, the word
35:14
karate. Saw that nearby there was a
35:16
place called Ken's Karate Club and I was like, I'll get to
35:18
that. What the karate?
35:19
Club, I'm sure. It was.
35:22
So I'll go check it out and then I don't know what I'd like,
35:28
literally planned to do it on the way home to go by and check
35:30
it out, but. Then something I guess.
35:32
Maybe I was like, I should check out reviews or something.
35:34
Maybe because I, you know, there's all different kinds of
35:36
karate. I went doing like this rabbit
35:38
hole of different kinds and I was like, oh, what kind of
35:39
karate is this place? Looked it up a bit, just
35:42
slightly more than that, and realized.
35:45
Look, Ken's Karate page is a. Place So it was illegal to be
35:51
gay in Australia until the 70s or 80s?
35:53
Yep, Ken's Karate club was a the karate club where it was
35:59
basically a gay club and the karate part was just to explain
36:04
the mats on the why. And also you could go like, oh,
36:08
where are you off to tonight, honey?
36:10
I'm just going down to karate club.
36:11
Going to karate club. Yeah.
36:13
So that's and obviously it was not still operational.
36:16
It was just a like a historic icon on the map and I had just.
36:22
Just seen karate club, Yeah. I'll go check it out.
36:23
Yeah, so I, I guess I can understand how as a Perth Bears
36:28
fan, you might think, oh, they've got a club.
36:30
Sounds good. Like Panthers.
36:32
Well, if that's the thing, like every NRL club does have a club
36:37
like that sell. I mean, so I'm a member of just
36:40
NRL club officials. If we have an NRL team here, the
36:43
Hawks. We're just not in the. 8th
36:45
grade, right? So you you're not on the telly,
36:47
but we still have a team. We still have a club.
36:50
Yep. Maybe they should just embrace.
36:51
This and they could become. I wonder how long it will take
36:55
to. Figure it out if you're going to
36:56
go with the name. Bears, you might.
36:58
Well, you should maybe just embrace it, but that's what I
37:00
mean. Imagine the kind of guys that
37:02
went to this. They probably do fit in at a
37:05
club with bears. That's what's so beautiful and
37:10
perfect about this story. The Bears bitch.
37:12
Great. Relationships that have started
37:14
because of this. But hold on, there was.
37:16
Already there used to be an NRL team called the Bears.
37:19
Yeah, back in the City. Bears.
37:22
Yeah, that's right. Can you reuse somebody's?
37:26
Of course he's a rector. Mascot.
37:27
Yeah, like if St. George closed down.
37:29
I can just fuck it. The Dragons.
37:31
I'm having it, yeah. Why not?
37:34
It's not in the team anymore. Why isn't there a team?
37:37
That North Sydney bears. When?
37:39
Because remember when I went like Perth did have a band club
37:43
ages ago? It was because remember Super
37:45
League and there was 2 rival teams.
37:48
I kind of remember that. Yeah.
37:49
And then they. There was the rival team, which
37:51
is where they placed some money and then they some teams go
37:54
over. To the Super League like from
37:56
the normal league but and but then when the Super League
37:58
closed down they just disappeared some.
38:01
Disappeared some, came back OK all.
38:04
Right and. It was Super League that made
38:05
it, that the players made money again.
38:07
Because I, I still remember growing up when I used to watch
38:10
football and television, You go, this person plays for this team,
38:14
this position and they're a car. They do.
38:16
For a job, they're a. Butcher a Carpenter or Yeah,
38:18
Yeah, because they weren't making money.
38:21
Guy played for. Parramatta eels and lived across
38:23
the Rd. from my grandparents like they're right.
38:27
Yeah, until the Super League came in and went there.
38:29
Not a mansion, but. Back into the fibro.
38:31
House money again, Yeah. Right, funny and.
38:35
Not while some of them do back a lot of money, a lot of them
38:39
don't, yeah. They have a noise don't make
38:43
well fucking I don't make a lot of money moving.
38:45
It's not like, yeah, that's what I mean, like.
38:46
Yeah, I'm OK with them not making millions of dollars.
38:48
Yeah, but also if you look at. Their their lifetime and their
38:51
career as well. It's not like.
38:53
Oh, sure, like. Yes, you might.
38:54
Have a few players that are making like $500,000 a year.
38:57
They make that for three years, Yeah, Because they're going to
39:01
like build up 10 years to get to that point again.
39:03
And then after. That's really my problem, the
39:05
limbs. Fall off, I reckon I'd still be.
39:08
Playing if I didn't have cancer. Yeah, I could have played.
39:13
If we could, the bunnies. Well, I mean you.
39:17
Had we would have had a better chance playing for Penrith in
39:19
that we were from Penrith actually, I would have had a
39:20
better. Chance playing for Parramatta?
39:23
Oh yeah. When I grew up, when.
39:24
I was playing rugby league, that team.
39:26
No, when I was. Playing I I was being.
39:30
I hear they're pretty. Shit, you may still have a
39:31
chance, Henry. They're a very good team.
39:34
I wasn't. Quite scouted for South but I
39:36
was those talks for souths that I could start going into the
39:39
feeder probably just hearing. About right now that you were.
39:42
Scouting the game? Yeah.
39:43
What? Is this?
39:44
What is this? Story when I was playing.
39:46
Rugby league and when I won my grand final I used to play
39:50
single handedly. Yeah, one it.
39:51
Myself, I used to play with people who actually did go on to
39:54
make NRL careers and we had coaches that were playing in the
39:58
NRL and stuff like I did have a chance there was a girl in.
40:01
Our school named Lauren, who was a cheerleader in the NFL, so
40:07
there was that. Not the NFL, the NRL.
40:10
But no, I used to play. With Eric Grove junior and Eric
40:12
Grove senior, he was one of the coaches and he used to play.
40:14
They both were Parramatta players and very.
40:20
Could have been me, you could. Have been on the.
40:21
Footy Show getting cancelled instead of this show.
40:24
Oh yeah. You would so be cancelled.
40:26
You could be our show. That's.
40:27
Even more overtly racist than we are.
40:29
Yeah, because they we. We different because you would
40:32
have said. Guys, I just want you to know
40:35
that I think blackface is OK. Yeah.
40:37
And then we were like 100% fine with.
40:39
Mahatma Gandhi would have been. Me, yeah.
40:43
Mahatma Coat. Mahatma Coat.
40:45
Like a tiger. Any.
40:47
Any. Non Australian listeners, there
40:49
was no idea. There was a television.
40:51
Show was called the Footy Show. It was like AAAI.
40:55
Guess what you call it? Like a variety show.
40:57
Variety. Show, yeah, but I.
40:58
Mean you didn't have to watch football to watch no no no, no
41:02
but it. Was hosted by Football by X4
41:04
former X4 players. Yeah, and they would do
41:05
sketches. And stuff and it like if you've
41:08
ever heard that Australians are a bit racist, they're probably
41:11
talking about the. Footy Show Watch The Footy Show
41:14
Yeah. There's a character, but here's
41:16
the thing. And we've talked about this play
41:17
by a very. Very, very, very white.
41:20
Person. Yeah, he looked very proud.
41:22
Through recording though, for some reason does.
41:25
With the shoe police. On his face, yes.
41:28
And the accent? Yep.
41:32
And Australia had no problem with it at all it.
41:36
It was very popular. It was absolutely.
41:38
Fine, it was very popular. I'm not going to pretend.
41:41
I'm not going to pretend that I was like on a crusade against it
41:44
Australia had. No issues were.
41:46
Australia had no. Issue with blackface.
41:48
Go back and listen. To some of the episodes, early
41:51
episodes of this podcast, I don't know.
41:52
So hey, hey. It's Saturday.
41:54
Who was it? It was.
41:56
Oh. It was Harry Connick.
41:57
Junior Harry Connick, junior. Went on and went, yeah, no, this
42:01
isn't right. And that's when Australia went
42:03
Oh guy. Did a Jackson 5A Jackson 5 where
42:07
he was in blackface and he has four other puppets also
42:11
blackface. I was watching that live when it
42:13
what happened? Yeah, with Like with My Mum and
42:14
Live Show. This is and then on the repeat
42:17
that I did on the the next because I used to do a repeat.
42:21
Yeah, that's right. Interesting.
42:23
The next week. But that was literally the day
42:25
Australia was told explicitly that blackface is not OK.
42:30
Yeah, by Harry. Connick Junior.
42:31
Yep, in like in. The mid 90s, yeah, live on.
42:34
Television, not in the. 50s people, yeah, midnight.
42:37
We just we. Didn't know until that day we we
42:40
literally know. Jokes are we?
42:43
Didn't know. Didn't.
42:47
The only time. I remember that anyone got in
42:50
trouble and and it's because of the context, but do you remember
42:54
also in the mid 90s a policeman from the NSW Police Service was.
43:02
Exposed. Because he went on videotape
43:06
dressing. So an Aboriginal person had hung
43:08
themselves in jail, right? And it was very sad.
43:11
And then he went in blackface with a noose.
43:16
And. Went into the police stations
43:18
like Christmas party dressed like that and and that's really.
43:24
Really foretaste. So he wasn't just in.
43:27
Blackface. He was dressed as a specific
43:29
yeah, yeah, yeah. Indigenous person who had just
43:31
died in custody. Yeah.
43:33
And fucking and somebody and people were videotaping and he
43:36
was like playing it for the camera.
43:38
And then someone got a whole. One person was.
43:41
Like should we not do that? Is this not OK?
43:45
I think the. Problem is, is like, well blah
43:47
blah, the problem. But The thing is, when Australia
43:50
was doing it, it wasn't the making fun of that is where the
43:55
negativity really came from back.
43:58
In. Yeah.
43:59
It didn't have the same history. Oh, that's that's right, It had
44:02
a. Very different history to my my
44:04
sense. Of my sense of that kind of
44:06
stuff, especially when we were kids, was that that that you
44:09
were like push, push it, see how far you can go with like, yeah,
44:14
yeah, yeah. Edgy edge Lord humor.
44:16
And I know a lot of people like, you know, James, I think I
44:18
thought that up. And mentioned that that's the.
44:20
Same kind of thing, you look at his tweets that he got in
44:22
trouble for. It's the same thing.
44:23
It's like there was, especially when we were kids in Australia
44:26
in particular, I can't speak for Australia because that's where I
44:28
was. There was this thing where it
44:30
was like, be as fucking edgy as you can and see how far you can
44:33
get without, you know, even the show.
44:36
That was when we found out that yes, we can't do this.
44:39
It wasn't someone because nobody Jackson or anything like it was
44:43
someone dressed up and being in Jackson 5 and doing the dance
44:46
moves and dancing. Yeah, and that and he's clearly.
44:48
Learned the dance because he fucking loved Michael Jackson.
44:51
Like it definitely wasn't, I also think.
44:55
It's not. You can't really say like we
44:56
didn't know that it wasn't OK. We kind of knew a bit.
45:00
That's why we were doing it, yeah.
45:02
Sure, yeah, but but the. It was kind of like almost like
45:06
we knew there was a line and we were kind of we, we thought we
45:10
were dancing just on this side of the line.
45:12
And then suddenly the rest of the world went no, you're.
45:14
Actually, the line is way, way behind you.
45:16
Yeah. The line left the line a long
45:19
time, yeah. And it's I'm not even.
45:21
Trying to excuse it. I'm just saying that's what it
45:23
felt like, I think for a lot of Australians.
45:25
Was it like, yeah. Oh, OK, yeah, it's funny
45:27
because. It's a bit edgy, yeah, you're
45:29
right. But yeah, no, but.
45:30
As I was saying, like our history with it was very
45:33
different to the rest of the world where it was making fun of
45:36
putting people down and like I do.
45:39
Remember when you're brought. Up and everybody.
45:40
'S doing it. It's very, sometimes very
45:42
difficult to see. Yeah, to see it the way that.
45:45
Yeah. And.
45:46
Also, we put ourselves down. Yeah, yeah.
45:49
That's. True.
45:49
Very. Deprecating and there weren't.
45:51
Anyone except for white people on TV up until fairly recently
45:55
as well, like when I was a kid, I would watch, I would have
45:59
reflected back an Australia that I'd never actually saw when I
46:02
looked out the window. You know, like like, like we
46:06
weren't all Crocodile Dundee, but it was definitely more
46:08
Crocodile Dundee than what was actually happening.
46:12
Sure. But there were.
46:13
I do remember that other episode of of Hey Hey It's Saturday.
46:17
They didn't have the benefit of Harry Connick Junior, which was
46:19
a bit of AI guess a reverse black face because they had the
46:22
singer Kamal who's an. Indian.
46:25
And halfway through him singing they ran in and and threw white
46:30
paint on his face like I don't remember.
46:33
That yeah, it's. Online Famous.
46:36
Incident. Yeah, God.
46:39
I know I don't. I don't want to make it sound
46:41
like I'm excusing any of it. No, I'm just saying, I feel like
46:45
it's, it's, you know, you grow up in a culture and you just
46:48
kind of do what everybody else does.
46:49
And the problem. The thing is, as long as you
46:51
don't, you don't think about it. Until somebody says, hey,
46:54
that's, that's a bit, that's racist.
46:56
And you go, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I'll, I'll, I used
47:00
to think it was perfectly OK, not perfectly OK.
47:03
Again, I knew I was being edgy, but I used to feel, no, you were
47:06
in trouble. Doing it was a Chinese.
47:09
Accent until I literally married a Chinese person that said you
47:12
need to stop doing that. Yeah.
47:18
But no as. As I think as long as you learn
47:21
and move forward, doesn't matter what you've done in your past,
47:23
what you do now, as long as you go, Once you find out, you go
47:25
what you've done. No, that's I.
47:28
No, I. Do believe that as long as yeah,
47:31
yeah. That's yeah.
47:33
I mean, obviously, I think probably it's clear we've
47:35
reflected on this quite a bit because even on this show, we
47:39
have done stuff in the past where and then realized, Oh no,
47:42
no, it's not OK. Yeah.
47:44
And. That's what other is why I don't
47:45
like cancel culture. Yeah, should be.
47:49
Cancelled forever? It should be.
47:51
If you double down and keep going, there's a problem.
47:54
But if you go, Oh yes, I'm now going to accept, learn and move
47:58
forward. I think if you dig up something,
48:00
something. Somebody did 1020 years ago.
48:03
That's ridiculous. It's not fair.
48:05
But I do think also, I don't think that means you can do
48:08
something now and then go all cancel culture.
48:10
It's like, no, no, that's just consequences.
48:12
You did a thing. Suck it up.
48:14
But like. James Gum, like he got cancelled
48:16
for stuff he did old stuff, old stuff and then he went yeah,
48:20
yeah, I was being edgy and that was now not that this is what I
48:23
do, but but he. Also said.
48:25
The right thing, which was that he got.
48:27
So. And that's how he also.
48:30
He also got in early, though he got in before cancelled was a
48:33
real thing when it was just starting.
48:35
But he also said the right thing CANCELLED was the.
48:37
Greatest thing for his career? Yeah, it really was.
48:40
Because then he got sacked from and when yeah, he did, yeah, he.
48:43
Got did both, yeah, yeah, but the.
48:45
The thing that he said, which was true was at the time,
48:49
everyone knew it was a joke, like, which also was true, which
48:53
which people forget. Like it's like, yes, it was
48:56
still offensive, but everyone knew it was a joke.
48:59
And jokes used to be free from that certain type of scrutiny
49:05
where they're not anymore and for better or worse.
49:07
But yeah, yeah. And I think it shows.
49:09
In the fact, but you cancelled 10 years ago.
49:11
He was cancelled after that, Yeah, when everyone had
49:15
forgotten about it. And I'm good because I'm
49:20
looking. Forward to his Superman, the
49:22
point is. Don't go and drink old episodes
49:26
of this show and try to cancel this.
49:27
That's don't. Just do.
49:29
Don't. Look up old episodes probably
49:30
could what he shows. Don't type in Mahatma coat and
49:33
see what you can find. Yeah, see what they've allowed
49:35
today. Still be on.
49:37
Yeah, Saturday blackface. Wonder if that'll come.
49:39
Up, still online and the real. Thing is, as long as you learn
49:41
and move forward, it's great. If you still mind it, this is
49:46
not. Something to be cancelled about.
49:48
But things things are still a bit edgy because I I heard there
49:51
was a show this week. I I saw several articles talking
49:54
about a a British reality show called Virgin Island.
49:58
Have you heard of this? Is this like Mule fireland?
50:03
I've not. Seen MILF?
50:03
Island but let me tell you the Orpheil Island.
50:06
Let me tell you about MILF Island first.
50:09
Please do. There was.
50:11
A reality show where they got mothers to come in.
50:16
They got about 10 mothers and then they had ten sons come in.
50:21
They were. Well, everything.
50:23
Someone's son. And it was.
50:25
Yeah, so it's 10 people, 10 people, all mothers, sons.
50:28
And it was a whole show which just like who they won't go with
50:32
the others and and with the others also the steel filing
50:34
same thing. So I'm going to guess this is
50:36
same I'm telling. You this is probably from the
50:38
same wait wait wait hen users you know.
50:41
I know this is just a. Cultural thing DILF is.
50:44
Dad with dads and daughters. Because as soon as you said
50:48
that, my brain was way more shocked than it was the first
50:51
time. And I was like, that's weird.
50:53
I I. Think that with the the MILF
50:55
file because I only saw a couple of episodes of that.
50:57
It was people because the MILF 1 is just like but it was
51:00
disensitizing milfs. Where they would.
51:02
Have like the blindfold, which of these old men?
51:05
And have the sons managed to convince the young girls to fuck
51:08
them? Yeah.
51:10
That's no they they're both. Just as bad.
51:13
So this is that. I.
51:13
I. Agree, but meant by meant I have
51:16
to do a bit more work mentally to not be OK with them.
51:19
Completely, yeah. Yeah, it's not quite, it's not
51:21
quite equal. It's fine, but it's not quite
51:23
equal. Yeah, the dad one I was that's.
51:24
Like so, yeah. Imagine like in, in in what, 15
51:29
years You go on a reality TV show where it's you and on the
51:33
other side it's people your age trying to have sex with your
51:36
daughters. That's the show.
51:38
Because Joe, I was just thinking.
51:39
Imagine American Pie and the only.
51:40
Upside is that maybe you can. Differ somewhere.
51:42
Any friends banging all the chicks?
51:44
All the schoolgirls like I. Imagine that they would.
51:48
Never in a million years would that have been a show, even back
51:50
then. Well, Virgin Islands.
51:53
This is this is what I read. This is what I read.
51:56
Virgin Island is of a show like just like that tropical island.
52:00
10 people who are virgins, adults, all adults, not related.
52:06
I just have to. Everyone of age, but I'm talking
52:09
about there's no yeah, yeah, yeah.
52:13
And I guess. The premise is they're going to
52:15
lose their virginity while they're on the island.
52:17
Fine. I wouldn't watch this show.
52:20
Fine. What about?
52:20
Well, yeah, right. Except the reason that people
52:24
are angry is because in addition to this, them just hoping that
52:29
they get it on with each other. They've brought in what they
52:32
call professional intimacy standings for them to fuck.
52:39
Right. So I was like prostitutes.
52:42
Exactly. So is the versions, are they
52:45
guys or girls or is it a mixture?
52:47
And the reason I can tell you is because I watched 3 episodes of
52:50
this this week because I was like, there's only three that
52:53
good. It's.
52:54
That good? It's not.
52:55
Good And I watched it. I I was like, were you?
52:57
Watching it or were you standing over with someone else watching
53:00
it and then you go to leave? I fucking watch this.
53:04
I want I read an article. Where they said virgins are sent
53:08
to an island and prostitutes are brought in.
53:10
I was like, it can't be that. It cannot be that.
53:13
It cannot, and it isn't. No way they stolen my idea for a
53:16
show. Except my idea wasn't a show and
53:20
there was no island. That's how I lost.
53:23
My virginity. That's right.
53:26
So. But here's The funny thing.
53:27
Okay so it's half right, 10 virgins, guys and girls all
53:32
brought in okay? Most.
53:35
Okay, but okay. Most of the guys.
53:37
The idea of the show would be. If you throw them together,
53:40
they're all attractive. Let them fuck.
53:43
OK, that's. Almost none of almost none of
53:45
them are attractive in the in a conventional.
53:47
Way right, They're pretty. Normal looking, right?
53:50
They're all pretty normal looking.
53:51
That's shrinking. Some American.
53:52
Some of them. No, it's British.
53:55
Oh. Some of them.
53:58
Are virgins because they are like, deeply religious?
54:06
Anxious. About their bodies intimacy.
54:10
Which is not. Funny, that's not good, right?
54:13
Right, that's not good. Some of them seem.
54:15
Prostitutes someone seem. Some of them seem neurodivergent
54:20
and there's there's one girl who's quite pretty but she is
54:24
like fucking body dysmorphia intimacy.
54:28
Like I wouldn't be surprised if she had trauma in her past
54:31
right? Anyway, it's not prostitutes.
54:34
It's a group of and there's more.
54:37
They call them coaches. There's more coaches than there
54:39
are contestants. And they're all these fucking
54:41
guys and girls, hot muscular guys and like fucking slinky
54:46
women who are also apparently sex therapists in clothes.
54:49
I don't know what their actual credentials are.
54:51
They've had sex. But.
54:53
They they literally just get it on with the contestants.
54:57
And The funny thing is the boys right, go along with it pretty
55:02
easily because they're like, Oh yes, would you like it?
55:04
Would you like it if I touched you here?
55:05
Would you like if I touch you there?
55:06
And then like I watched one where they like they were naked,
55:09
like they weren't fucking. I've not seen fucking, but they
55:12
were dry humping and the guy did come, right?
55:15
So says that. But then when you have heard it,
55:19
so there's this one where, yeah, I did.
55:21
There's one where there's this fucking poor girl standing there
55:23
and this fucking dirty guy with a Gray ponytail and big muscles
55:27
are sitting there. He's like, where would you like
55:29
me to touch you? And she's like nowhere, nowhere.
55:32
Yeah. And it's like, please leave me
55:33
alone. Yeah.
55:34
It doesn't have to be sexual. Maybe just tell me on your body
55:37
where you like to be touched. It's like, I don't like to be
55:39
touched. And I don't know you like it
55:42
was. It's so it just shows a men and
55:45
women's TV show. But also, yeah.
55:47
Why is this television? See at least with.
55:52
The the Bill of Ireland type of thing that was like they've all
55:56
signed up for it and it was they didn't know they didn't know it
55:59
was going to be them with their mothers.
56:01
And but they both signed up for a show where hot people dating
56:05
other people. And that's and I think a show
56:06
like. That it's those extroverts, you
56:10
know, it's, you know, like, you know, you're young people, like
56:12
Big Brother people who go Big Brother wannabe.
56:15
Oh yeah, famous. Yeah, they're very extroverts.
56:18
Very first. Season, yeah, before people.
56:21
Knew about it. It wasn't the show you're
56:23
describing. There it sounds like you would
56:25
have to find the opposite of that, because people, people who
56:28
would normally go on a show like that, aren't virgins because
56:32
they're up for fucking anything and they're not just.
56:35
Personality. Wise, you know what I mean?
56:36
And this show is. A stepping stone for the next 15
56:39
minutes of fame? Yeah, Or just club appearances.
56:42
Or. Something.
56:43
Yeah, that's right. I just.
56:44
I mean, maybe I'm. Wrong, but I feel like I do you.
56:46
Know why to go on a show like that?
56:49
You're just not the kind of person who hasn't already tried
56:52
quite hard to actually, no, I've.
56:53
Seen it not being a terrible show except for the fact that
56:56
they went down The Dirty sexual prostitute path instead of
57:02
strange. Yeah.
57:04
Trying to be. Actual coaching.
57:08
Like don't have a problem with your body build up your
57:11
confidence type of thing. I think that's part.
57:14
Entertainment. But it's the same thing.
57:16
Obviously Great Western Hwy. Yeah, you.
57:19
Just have so much fun doing pimp ROMs down there man.
57:23
But the same thing. So they had this, they had this
57:25
one where they took the boys into a room.
57:27
They took the girls into a room. And this woman came out as this
57:29
beautiful woman and stripped off and and sat there going ask me
57:33
about my body. Look at my body.
57:35
And the guys are fucking. Yeah, like these guys are only
57:38
virgins because no one will fuck them.
57:40
It's the same thing in the other room.
57:42
The guys like, look at my Dick. Look at this.
57:45
What do you think? And the girls are like, mate, if
57:48
you think you're the first guy that showed me their Dick, like,
57:50
yeah, that's not why. She's just not the.
57:53
Issue. Yeah, I feel like it's a.
57:56
Different demographic, male virgins versus feel.
57:59
Feel, yeah. Not.
58:01
It's not the stereotype, but I've just, well, I mean, for a
58:03
demographic, it's yeah. This the show.
58:05
Certainly reinforces that that is definitely the case at least.
58:08
Should I watch it? My experience.
58:11
I mean. Grown up.
58:12
And known a lot of teenage. Boys and whatnot.
58:15
Then the the the reasons boys don't do it is very different.
58:18
The reasons girls don't do it, yes.
58:20
They're fucking desperate to do it, yeah.
58:23
We just. Some people don't let us do it.
58:26
That's. I'm.
58:29
I mean, I'm a guy and I'm still amazed at the length some guys
58:31
went to when I was in high school.
58:33
Oh yeah. Yeah, I mean, look at movies
58:35
like. Revenge of the Nerds and Porgies
58:36
we already talked about. Yes, the things they do in
58:38
those. Movies cottage industry based on
58:39
this porkies. Do try to do.
58:41
Those things, no, that's how they.
58:43
Drill a hole. Through the wall of the of the
58:47
girls change rooms to watch them and at one point he sticks his
58:49
Dick through and and hopes that someone sucks it but the the
58:52
coach comes in instead of the girls.
58:54
OK, OK. They're all porky's good, but
58:56
some of porkies is actually a positive social commentary.
59:03
It's not the glory. Hold it.
59:05
I think everyone should watch. Maybe not for the sick stuff
59:09
about the positive that they're against racism.
59:12
That's what the porkish is about.
59:14
Yeah. Yeah.
59:14
They'll rape anyone, any race. Look, Speaking of.
59:19
Movies. I just wanted to mention this
59:21
quickly. I thought this was very
59:22
interesting. You guys heard of Ballerina?
59:25
No. I haven't.
59:26
Did you did you finish? Talking about Virgin Island, I
59:28
didn't mean to. Yeah, that's.
59:29
All that's it. There's no more episodes.
59:31
I'll, I'll check back in next week.
59:32
OK, Let us know how it goes. Ballerina's out.
59:37
Well, sorry, it's not out. It's been out for for critics,
59:41
OK. And they have and I believe
59:43
this, I'm led to believe this is the first time this has
59:45
happened. They've been interesting policy
59:47
regarding reviews. The ballerina.
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It's been controversial, basically.
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Actually, you know what? I'll read the exact text and let
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you know. You let me know if you think
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this is a normal way, a normal way to do things.
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Yeah, that's. I don't think you're allowed to
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do that. I.
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Don't think you're allowed to do.
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That. I think you.
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Certainly seems infringement of freedom of the press like the
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embargo is great. Like it?
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Once she gets to this stage, go crazy, that's it makes.
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Me think how bad's this movie? Well, this is very.
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Good. It's just a.
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Weird poll. This is a John Wick.
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Spin off right, yes, that's what this is So I I love the John
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Wick, the movie John Wick. I wasn't that crash hot on the
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sequels. I thought they took a good thing
1:00:58
and they just they went off. It was better than the second.
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One right, I didn't. Like the second one.
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And I stopped, right? But evidently this is a
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character from one of them who's gotten their own movie, right?
1:01:09
Yeah, it's Anna Dama. Sure.
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And I like her, yeah. We got told.
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You we're going to get. On spoiler free enthusiasm I can
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express or. You'd spoiler because I know
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like. Every now and again we will get
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stuff where we can talk about. I only will accept stuff that
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I'm interested in, yes. Yeah, I know we're in a unique
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position and that we're not relying on.
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Yeah, we're not relying on anything.
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But yeah, unless I'm interested in it, I will not accept
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anything or even be considered talking about Yeah, we're lucky
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in. That we've never made any money.
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So it really just doesn't occur to us.
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And just to be clear. No one's ever offered us any
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money. No, that's what I.
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Mean though, so we're not when we.
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Do we're not. We don't have that thing in our
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mind where we're like, oh, I better say yes, because of
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sponsors or whatever like that. We don't have any sponsors.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, just to be clear, the
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makers of Virgin Island didn't ask me to review this show, but.
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Every day and again I do get offers for a code or something I
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pretty much will not. Accept.
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Anything. Unless it's something I want,
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yeah, it's not. But something I'm that would be
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something I'm interested in. Enthusiastic criticism, Yes, I
1:02:19
usually. Just say no anyway.
1:02:21
But this is the way you said that is funny.
1:02:22
I mean, if they offer me, you know, the new Assassin's Creed,
1:02:25
I'll take it 'cause I fucking want that game.
1:02:27
But. But yeah.
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I'm not a review. I do say.
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I do say. I've stopped doing it at all,
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but I always did say, by the way, I cannot guarantee that
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I'll even mention this. Just so you were aware.
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If you're happy to give me a key, this is not a deal.
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You were fishing here? Yeah, this podcast.
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Is incredibly spontaneous and I may just forget.
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Yes, yeah. Yeah.
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We may think it's really bad. Really good.
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Then we're all in. There's a lot of.
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Stuff in this spreadsheet that we will not be talking about
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today. I can tell because we've been
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talking for an hour now and we haven't talked about a lot of
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this stuff. Yeah, and in.
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Fact. We should go over to the after
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Luke. Is going to hate the after party
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this week. I thought the.
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Only fan stuff more for that. Yeah, well.
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What am I not? Gonna like scroll up.
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Back. I thought we were done.
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1:03:42
he was banned for life by Luke. A long, long time ago.
1:03:47
And he just keeps coming back, yeah.
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Because he. Doesn't care if you want him in
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